Iran-US War: Is Pakistan Iran Oil Conduit? Europe’s Immigration Failure • Erik Selle

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[00:00:24]Namaskar. Hello and welcome to P Guru's channel. I'm your host Sriad. I am joined by Eric Salah. He has been with us before. He is from the Christian Conservative Party of Norway. Eric, namaskar and welcome to Pale Guru's channel. How are you?

[00:00:38]>> Namaskar. Thank you very much for the invitation again.

[00:00:42]>> Um Eric, it was wonderful the last time we had our interaction and and viewers recently Prime Minister Modi visited Norway and u another member of parliament in Norway, Himanchu Gulati had done all the work and I'm trying to reach out to him. yours. I will get firsthand experience on how this whole coordination happens when somebody has to come in, what do you need to do and so on. That's a story for a different day. But Eric and I are going to talk about two important things today. One is the Iran US war. How it actually affects a net oil producer country such as Norway and and also we're going to take a look at the flawed immigration policy of Europe. That will be the second part of this talk. As always, a request to all of you to please like this video right away. Eric, I yield the floor to you. From Norway's perspective, how do you see this war going and and what are your expectations of where it should be going? Over to you.

[00:01:39]>> Thank you very much. First of all, I just want to say that I was very very happy that Prime Minister Moody visited Norway. It's long overdue and I think that India and Norway has a bright future in bilateral relations.

[00:01:55]uh and uh and we have a very strong and very uh productive uh Norwegian Indian community in Norway. So we have to leave that for another program. But I just want to make that statement. I think that is one of the very positive things that has uh has happened and I think this alliance of countries that really wants to pursue uh peace and prosperity together uh cannot be underestimated the value of because there are governments that are destructive. There are governments that are oppressive. uh there are governments that fundamentally follows a policy that does not uh bring uh really benefits to their own people and we have to recognize this and we have to stand together. I would call the free world also when it comes to free uh market economy without being globalists which is destructive. Well, I will go over to our topics today. uh Palan Klausvitz he said that wars are not judged by the speeches that launched them but they are judged by the conditions they leave behind. Uh this is very important. It is the conditions that the war leaves behind that actually will judge uh the the character and either condemn or approve of this war that is going on in Iran. And I think it's really important to uh to emphasize okay so what did they start out to do?

[00:03:30]Uh Iran has s since 1979 been conducting a war against the US and western interests and Israel uh right below the threshold of open warfare.

[00:03:45]This has been done through proxy forces to illicit financing. Hezbollah has been operating around Latin America. I meet this problem in Africa. Uh ideological movements, criminal partnerships, the cartels in Latin America which uh Iran has embedded themselves with so-called grayson tactics and uh assassinations of of critics. uh just because these are below the threshold of open war, they cannot go unpunished. Um and that is what is happening for the first time.

[00:04:23]The Iranian regime is facing the consequences by a president of the United States that actually has the the moral uh compass uh to hold them accountable. Besides, the Iranian regime has hijacked a people that is really in their essence have a totally different predo than this Islamist extremism that is perpetrated by this regime. Uh I have personally participated in a number of rallies in Oslo speaking to thousand of Norwegian Iranian refugees exiles. They are now highly integrated in the society. Uh and they are peaceful, they are friendly and they cry every day for the atrocities going uh going on against their friends and families uh in Iran. Uh we just had the Gaza war. We had a a global condemnation rally against Israel for the operations that were needed in Gaza.

[00:05:27]the Iranian regime slaughters 50 60,000 people in a few days and uh and the world is more or less uh silent.

[00:05:37]I think that this is really not crucial what's going on because uh Iran has threatened a member state of the UN with aniliation.

[00:05:48]This is uh uh a blatant uh breach of the UN uh bylaws. uh it's a fundamental principle in the whole concept the whole vision by the behind the UN was the world wars in starting in Europe that should never the world should never see that kind of wars against that is so devastating to humanity and uh the UN charter does not allow a member state to blatantly uh threaten an inhilation of another state. That is what Iran is doing with Israel constantly. That is the aim of the Iranian proxy movement through Iraq, through Syria, through Lebanon to the Houthis.

[00:06:33]And everybody knows that Israel is a one nuclear bomb state. It's so small that all Iran needs is one nuclear bomb and uh Israel and beyond would not be inhabitable.

[00:06:49]This is a risk that you cannot u you cannot propose to any nation to sustain.

[00:06:57]So in my view this war was overdue and uh because of the risk of getting nuclear weapons this had to be done. Now there's also the element of the interbalistic missiles. uh the minister of foreign affairs of Iran was in in Oslo in Norway just a few weeks before uh this war and he denied having ballistic missiles. Two weeks later Iran actually used the kind of rockets that they denied having in our face before >> you're talking about the one that they shot to near Diego Garcia.

[00:07:36]>> Exactly. Exactly.

[00:07:39]And if theating war since 79 got the ability America with an ability world would not be allowed to. The third point is a regime change. And this is what is near to my heart because of the the the friends I have within the Iranian community in Norway. Norway has opened our borders and our and our home. I call my nation a home and people that comes to my home have to act accordingly. If you come to my home and you want to make the same mess as where you come from, I have the right to send you back where you come from. But when we have a humanity, a humanitarian part, we take in refugees that really needs to be part, wants to be part of our culture and our society. And they have been welcome and they are welcome.

[00:08:53]And now they are the ones that are telling the Norwegian government that they are on the wrong side. These people in Norway see the same tendencies going on in Europe as it was in Iran before the Ayatollah takeover. This is really really disturbing. And what is what is my biggest concern now out of very little comes out out of the negotiations, but it seems to me that President Trump has brought the idea of regime change.

[00:09:30]As long as he can achieve the goals of uh eradicating nuclear weapons and remove that threat and the ballistic missiles, he seems uh content and able to move forward, thus maintaining the regime that is slaughtering its own people. I think that is really really concerning and I think that the world should be more uh occupied by this uh reality. And I have to say that I think Europe again has missed its test because the Arab countries has been attacked by Iran. The Arab countries are now on the verge of collectively joining the Abraham Accords with America and Israel creating a totally new atmosphere in the Middle East. But the European nation and spec specifically my government in Norway has given the Iranian regime the backing to to keep political endurance and that is that is a betrayal of European values.

[00:10:41]So the irony is I find myself in the capital of Norway uh speaking with Norwegians with Iranian backing that is telling our government of the socialist side that you have abandoned your heritage and your values because you are actually giving the Iranian regime oxygen to hold out in this situation where the whole world should have been barking to see regime shift. in Iran.

[00:11:13]>> Now, Eric, this is something what you just mentioned that the threshold of terrorism, they were always just below the threshold, but they were nevertheless uh conducting acts of terror, you know, um if once US walked into Iraq, whether it was right or wrong, I'm not going to debate. Many, including myself, felt that that was not the right thing to do. But having done that you know the United States had a huge problem managing Iraq. I don't know if you remember the way the planes had to land in that green zone that in US had created was you have to go directly up to the above the airport and then you have to start you doing a spiral a tighter and tighter spiral and then you come down because there was so much fear there anything that you didn't if you did a normal landing you you just uh you know couldn't do it. There were air anti-aircraft guns and and missiles and so on and so forth and roadside bombing even after that they had so much you know roadside bombings that used to happen and all this you know after the fact we came to know that there was one person from Iran IRGC Kasim Solommani who's considered like the one who really figured out how to keep this thing changing like you know you get one bomb then you figure it out okay this is the method used and then you try to insulate yourself from that the method changes but the devastating effect you so you really touched upon that one point which you know it it started there and then it's very quickly spread to other places the three H's Hezbollah Hamas and the Houthis and and I I wonder Eric and I'm going to ask you this question Iran has spent so much of its revenues doing all these acts right instead If they had used it to build a society, don't you think Iran would be like a first n first generation, first level country like today because so much money has been spent on all these things?

[00:13:21]>> Absolutely. And it was the Iranians are smart. They are industrial. You you see even the the regime people are smart people.

[00:13:31]uh they have been uh as I said they have been conducting a low-scale war against the west since 1979. They took Iran back to the stone age. What is that is what this ideology does. Islamic extremism brings everybody back to stone age and it's uh it's a regime of terror and tyranny. Uh and uh you see now in Lebanon what has been happening. Lebanon has been hijacked by Hezbollah and you have never heard the Lebanese government actually put words to this. Now they do because America and Israel has weakened the Iranian regime and by consequence Hezbollah. So now you have the legitimate government in Beirut finally speaking it out about the destruction of Lebanon. That is Hezbollahbah's doing. So this war has given the potential to put millions of people and different ethnic groups into freedom in the Middle East. The Kurds they were uh you know you you heard the same message this time by Trump. This is the time this is the possibility to be free for the people of Iran if they take the uh seize the occasion. Well, then you have to give them uh the backing to do so. We remember from the first Iraq war where uh President Bush encouraged the Kurds to to uprising and they did. And what happened when Kuwait was deliberate? They left the Kurds to be massacred by Saddam. So the highest point for a potential liberation can be the blackest day coming after if you're not able to see it through. And I think that if you do things like Trump has done now, you have to see it through or else the the the the consequences can can be extreme. Not least for the people, the weakest and most um most threatened people, the Iranian people itself.

[00:15:45]Um Eric let's come to the point that we were discussing in the headline which is now Iranian oil is finding a new conduit through Pakistan. Now see there are six routes that they have opened for humanitarian aid you know medicine food and so on and so forth into Iran from Pakistan but it can be used for other purposes also. Uh I have a question. You know you can't really transport a lot of oil on the road because these tankers are huge if you want any scales of economy and and that might not be the way. But I'm also told that this is the this is the thing I would like your input on Eric is that oil is still coming out of Kir Island into smaller tankers and these smaller tankers are small enough to evade detection from the US blockade and they hug the coastline of Iran all the way into into Pakistan and then it's coming out from there.

[00:16:43]This is what I'm hearing. I I you you have a much broader vision on this since Norway is a very proh oil energy active country. Give us a little bit of an idea on what's going on there.

[00:16:55]>> No, I agree. Uh I've heard that too. And uh but but what is a fact is that uh 30,000 U oil tank trucks are now going across Saudi Arabia to other ports and the new highways through Pakistan to Iran is uh taking also oil and trucks down to uh the harbor southern Pakistan supplying specifically China. Uh so this uh hormous thing I I think came on America the Americans as a surprise. Uh and what we I I think that what is what is u what Donald Trump the president of America has to be concerned about is that if you speak tough too many times and you don't follow through, you know, nobody's going to believe you anymore.

[00:17:43]You know, it's it's nobody's going to respect you either. So you have to say less and do more specifically if you use the stick. Now if you gain the the option the objectives uh by first threatening and then negotiating then it's okay but then you have to make sure that really it is your objectives that you are reaching without pulling through. But uh that being said um the the US is now self-sufficient with energy. That was not the reality uh short while before. Uh so for America they also um can subsidize their their own need if they want to. They have that political freedom. Uh Norway is a big exporter of oil.

[00:18:36]uh our government has bound ourself to the idea that they will not subsidize our own citizens with cheap energy. Even our our water energy uh is connected to the European net. So they we produce very very cheap energy and we buy it very expensive for the businesses and the households right now. And that is something that we need to that is a domestic debate in Norway. We need to challenge this globalist ethos. Uh if Germany undercuts its own energy supply by shutting down nuclear power plants and coal because they have this climate crazy green ideology that will take any country to its financial knees, then it should not be our problem. My position is that it's the responsibility of the Norwegian government to see that we have a competitive edge for our export industry and we are a cold country. We have minus 40° months in winter time for many people that are just regular people. the guy that uh the the the guy that fix your electricity, the plumber, uh the hairdresser, uh the people working taking care of elderly, you know, people with regular jobs. They they cannot play this globalist climate game where everything uh rises uh because of failed policies.

[00:20:05]So we have to take our energy back and we have to bring Europe back to its most competitive edge because the global market and the global industry is not a kindergarten. It's not a Sunday school.

[00:20:18]is very very tough and we have been living with ignorant postcold war politicians in Europe that are globalists to their core believe in this climate hoax and and ruins our economies in Europe and we are going to the pe regular people are rising. Now, think about this. You you bring in uh millions of immigrants from cultures that are are hard to adapt into our culture. Now, that is okay. If you have a lot of welfare budget, you can give them everything. You can kind of kind of patch over the differences. But the moment we run into poverty then you will see social disruption that we have never seen before and then everybody and it's natural you will fall down on your near cultural identity you will not fall down on America is is has has uh you can say one thing about America they have been able to mix in people from all over the world like no other society. we have seen maybe you have to go back to the Roman Empire to see that kind of adapt adaptability for different cultures in Europe it's very different different we are nation states we are smaller nation states we are culturally homogeneous uh from the past and we have taken in uncritically people we have taken in in Muslim extremists that the Arab countries are warning us about we have allowed the Muslim Brotherhood Baltah and other extremists that are jailed in Egypt, that are jailed in Saudi Arabia to freely uh influence our universities uh get money through their NOS's uh build their radical mosques. All of these things is now coming up to the surface and we have a big big challenge and if we don't purs if we don't take care and make sure that we have strong economies this is going to be very very difficult but the bright side of the closing of the homeus is that the pipeline through Saudi Arabia to the Red Sea is reactivated. They are, as far as I know, they're already building new pipelines.

[00:22:46]Uh, you know, when human beings come into a position of of impossibilities, the human spirit has uh the god-given ability to find new solutions. And I think that is happening. And I think maybe it's a bit healthy because Hormus has always been a potential hijacking of the global supply chain of oil. And maybe now we will find think differently and bring uh oil through a longer route not on the ship side. You can be build pipelines through to many ports for other direction than taking it through hormuse. So I think the human spirit always will survive. Uh and I think this will give uh strengthen uh I would say Arab countries that has become very very uh constructive. Uh they have have come since the cartoon declaration after the six- day war with Israel. They didn't want any negotiation, no recognition, no peace with Israel. Israel is de facto a major power player now in the Middle East. uh the Arab and Arab countries and Israel has much more in common. They have together a common enemy in the Iranian regime which Iranian regime themselves has proven. Uh I just heard that Trump now is putting on the table that all those Arab countries signed the Abraham Accords and I think India has a very important part to play. Uh we understand that India uh is a continent in itself. We understand that India balances international policies. Uh they have China and Pakistan as close neighbors. Uh but we really need to see India come on board and take global leadership uh and play a part in this new alliance that I think is necessary for the free world.

[00:24:46]>> Very true Eric. And in fact I remember my good friend Dr. Swami in United in India. He's a professor from Harvard and he was an he's also in politics and he was a minister uh in the '9s early '9s in India and after that uh there was an liberalization that started in India and that's when India formally reached out to Israel but Israel did not have a consulate it just had an office in Mumbai that was basically serving the needs of Jews mostly in India and uh then what happened was you had to have a functioning consulate. And you know what he did? He just offered his home. The uh they they put an Israeli flag. One of the rooms was taken over and then that's where the first few visas were being granted until Israel found place for uh in there's a diplomatic enclave in New Delhi called Chanakapuri where they had to go and you know find their own new building and so on and so forth. What I'm trying to say is India has always been very good friends with Israel and and that's how this whole process of normalization started. I'm talking about the '9s 30 years ago. So it's it's wonderful that you mentioned that. Now let's take a look at the immigration policy that is in play in Europe. Now on the one side you've got a lot of people who don't seem to have skills for anything and on the other side I see mobilization efforts starting in Germany in in France and perhaps in United Kingdom in preparation for a a future war. Do you think that the immigration policy was intended to basically make them fight for these countries like for Europe? What are your thoughts on that Eric? No, I think that the European Union uh had a deliberate idea that uh to bring in high number of um immigrants to Europe to undermine the nation state.

[00:26:43]This is not a conspiracy theory. This is in the EU documents. They wanted to create the regions of Europe uh to create a supra state governed from Brussel. The EU system is not very democratic. uh nobody has ever voted for us.

[00:27:01]Nobody has ever voted for the kalas the foreign policy spokesperson. So it's kind of a undemocratic hijacking of the nation states. Uh and that's one of my uh big issues domestically here that we want to get rid uh of the agreements with the EU that undermines our sovereignty but we want a strong bond between sovereign nation states of Europe. uh because if you have a homogeneous nation, it's very strong. If you have uh you can look at the balkcans, you we even have a phrase balkcanization.

[00:27:38]Balkcanization means that when you put very different cultures together in the same area, I mean fighting and war is almost inevitable. Uh so I think this is a very dangerous game and this has nothing to do with disrespect of each other's cultures. I would say rather the opposite. I think we should respect each other's cultures and acknowledge the difference and enjoy them as well. And then there are traits with different cultures which are not adaptable. And uh and we feel that I feel my culture is better than several other cultures. uh let's say when it comes to women's rights, I'm very happy uh for the women living in Norway that has rights now they didn't have here 100 years ago that is still lacking in other cultures. Of course, it it matters where you live. Uh so um so I think that uh I saw now that uh with the war in Syria uh 700,000 uh Syrian refugees in Germany uh Germany wants to return them to Syria and Syria refuses.

[00:28:49]Well, if that is the case that we open our homes and our hearts and our nations to refugees in times of war and we cannot be free to resettle them when it's over, then of course this has to stop. We're we are four we are 5 million people in Norway now. 20% are immigrants. Uh the sustainability level of this is at a breaking point. Of course, it is. So uh so it's also uh an international um responsibility that if you are a host nation of refugees there also need to be a return system. What the problem in Europe now is and we are ourselves at fault. The disastrous Libya war where they ended up killing Gaddafi was crazy. I warned against American interference in Syria. Everybody knows that, okay, Assad was a tyrant. He was a dictator. But but uh if you remove that guy, you have an ISIS prince in Damascus today that crucified Christians, slaughtered Bruce, and attacked Kurds just this last year. So we have to stop these uh destabilizing interventions on behalf of others and protect our own interests and then let's try to live together with others. But the reality of Libya is that that North Africans and Africans are are flowing up and and even from from Afghanistan, Pakistan, other countries are coming through that road over the Mediterranean and we cannot accept it anymore. We cannot just keep these uh pouring in. And I I would raise it in the UN. Why are Arab countries not taking in Muslim Arab refugees? Where are the Christians in the Middle East? I would ask the Muslim countries, where are your Christians? I would ask Bangladesh, where are your Hindus?

[00:30:51]>> Because they disappear over time.

[00:30:53]>> Yeah. And my >> my policy is that we need a global system where if there is war and destabilization somewhere, people need to get refuge at the nearest possible access point and there need to be a global responsibility to help those nation that has those burden that will challenge to keep it. But we cannot just move people into Europe anymore. China doesn't take refugees like that. Japan doesn't take refugees like that. Latin America doesn't take any of them. They are flowing into the west and it's destroying the west as a consequence and that has to stop.

[00:31:34]Thank you so much Eric. You correctly pointed out the source of all these troubles as uh I mean I would even go back to even Saddam Hussein time because everywhere there's been a dislo dislodgement of a dictator. There are lots of bad consequences of that too and without understanding that you go in and do something and then everybody else suffers for a long time. Eric this has been a very revealing conversation.

[00:31:57]Thank you for sharing your thoughts and viewers I hope you followed it all the way till the end. Please like, share, follow and subscribe to this channel and Eric will be a constant guest on our channels. I usually try to get him once a month and thank you so much for setting aside time to talk with us today. Thank you so much again and looking forward for our next call.

[00:32:15]Namaskar. Namaskar.