In self-defense cases, the key legal question is whether the defendant reasonably believed deadly force was immediately necessary to protect themselves, which depends on factors like the number of attackers, size differences, and whether physical contact occurred first. In the Karmelo Anthony case, evidence suggests Austin Medcalf made physical contact with Anthony (grabbing his backpack and pushing him) before the stabbing, which could support a self-defense claim, though the jury must ultimately decide if deadly force was reasonable under the circumstances.
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I was all into the story, too, baby. All right. So, the title of this live is saying that the judge is under fire for um what took place today. So, we're going to go over what took place today in the courtroom. Let me change this title because I did change the title to the judge's under fire. I don't know why it didn't take. So, let me just do that right quick.
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She said, "Yeah, you went out when you touched it previously." Oh, okay. Did not realize that. All right, so let's talk about what happened today. We will be, like I said, giving daily updates on what's going on today. There was no court to the public, but there was the jury selection started today. Now, I told y'all yesterday that there was about 600 people selected for potential jurors, right? Those 600 today started to be narrowed down. They're going to narrow down them to 250.
Out of the 250, 12 people will be selected. Actually, it's going to be more than 12. They're going to select 12, but they're going to select some backups just in case something happened to one of the 12 or two of the 12 or three of the 12. They will have backups.
Okay. So, right now they're trying to narrow down who's I'm not even going to say qualified, but who has greater potential of standing trial um standing as a juror, being seated as a juror for this trial. All right. So, why is the judge under fire? That's what I was going over, you guys. So, apparently the judge, they're saying that is under fire. That's what's being reported from two different channels. Okay. The NCB beat claimed that court started today about three hours late. All right. The judge was expected to start at 9, but it did not start until 12. They said the potential jurors and the media like bloggers like myself and also the reporters were very frustrated and very angry. Just imagine having to sit there for about three hours waiting to find out what's going on. Right. So again, um it was supposed to start at 9:00. It did not start to 12. The reason why that matter is because the judge is John Roach. I said yesterday it was Judge Roach and I thought his name was John.
It is Judge John Roach. He had actually said before court that everything was going to be dress right dress and it was going to be no wasting of time around here. So they saying he said that but he did the exact opposite. Okay. He's saying hey this is going to be no holes bar. We're going by the book. Don't waste my time. And then what happens today? Court delayed three hours. So people were very frustrated because they're like, "You want us on time and you wasn't even on time." All right. So now, um, the first day, so it's already slow jury selection starting today, which they expected this to be over today with, excuse me, not today, but um, w Wednesday, they expected everything to be over. all the jurors be selected and that the opening statements from both the prosecution and the defense will start on Thursday. But if they already delaying the day, we're not quite sure if this is going to happen.
All right. Now, CBS Texas reported again 600 prospect jurors were interviewed.
They're trying to narrow them down to 250 by tomorrow, which is Wednesday.
Okay. So now the court is dealing with a large complicated jury selection because what they're trying to do is find out.
Can you be nonbiased?
Do you believe everything you hear on social media? Those are some of the questions that they are asking the potential jurors. Do you just hear something on social media and take off and run with it? Okay? because if you do, we don't want you because there's so much information that went out on this case that is untrue. Okay? And Judge Roach has already said he wants the jury pool, whoever is going to be selected, he want them to forget about what it is, everything, whether it was true or whether it was false. He want them to forget everything they have heard on social media and the news and only believe what they hear in court.
Whatever comes out of the prosecutor mouths, whatever come out of the defense attorney mouth, whatever comes out of the judge's mouth and the witness statements that's in court, that's the only thing the judge want them to believe. Why is that?
There has been a lot of mistruths. Okay?
Whether it's from the defense side or the prosecutor's side, a lot of people have just been pushing things out. And this what happened in high-profile cases, right? People form their narrative. They say this and then it it it it spreads like wildfire fires, right? So the judge is basically saying, "We want you to forget if you have heard about this case, we want you to forget everything that you've heard. Just get it out of your mind. Only go off of facts. the facts will be will be presented in court only. Okay, which I think that's big because a lot of the news reporters has been pushing pushing pushing and they have framed Austin as an innocent person that was just kind of minding his business and saw someone evading his tent space and he asked him so ever so gently, can you please move out of our tent in a non-threatening manner? This is what the news has pushed since this started back in April of 2025.
The defense is saying that's not how it happened. Okay? And they are saying this was self-defense. They're saying that Austin and his brother Hunter started with Carmelo Anthony first. All right?
So again, the judge is trying to narrow it down.
Okay. So, right now it is saying um the judge is under fire because already they don't like how it is being ran. Okay.
So, um let's talk about what we know so far, the facts. Now, y'all going to hear me repeat this a lot because we're going to repeat what we know so far. What happened? April 2025, Carmelo, then 17, now 18, was attending a track meet event at a different location.
Okay, it wasn't a school, but it was a an event for the school. Okay, a track event. Austin Medclaf and his brother Hunter Medclaf was also attending that track meet. Both of these young fellas was 17 years old at the time. Both of them was a students and star athletes of their schools. They went to two different schools and did not know each other prior to this incident.
It was pouring down raining in April of 2025.
It is being reported that Carmelo Anthony was sitting under the tent that belonged to the school that Austin and Hunter went to. Okay. Now, let me just specify something. It is the school's tent. It was not Austin Medcliff tent, nor was it Hunter's tent. It was the school tent. It has the school logo on the tent. Okay. Now it is known that rivalries do not mingle that much together even though some do and I remember even when when I was in school we kind of mingled if we wanted to.
Sometime we had friends or relatives that went to other schools and we would go over there and sometimes speak and it was okay. However, in the sports world they say rivalries do not mingle do not sit up under each other's tent or in their area. Right. However, it was pouring down raining that day.
The police report said it was raining.
Witnesses said it was raining. The camera footage says it was raining. It was raining that day. Hence why they were sitting up under the tent in the first place. So, apparently Camelo Anthony came and sat up under the tent.
Now, let me tell you something that's a fact that a lot of the reporters have not been reporting.
Austin and Hunter was not sitting under the tent when Carmelo Anthony began to sit up under the tent. They were in a different location. Yes, it was their school's tent, but they were in a different location at the time Camello Anthony sat there. So, it's not like Camello Anthony saw them and joined them. That's not what happened. Okay.
He saw a tent. It was probably some people sitting up under there. It looked like it was had seats available. So, he went and sat there to get out of the rain. It's being said that he was on the phone with a female, a girl, okay, talking to the girl on the phone.
The brothers along with a few other friends came from a different location and they sat up under their tent.
Hunter, by his own words, Hunter is Austin's brother. Hunter is the one that's still alive.
By his own words, he said that they came and sat down and he heard Camelo Anthony talking behind him. He looks back, he see Anthony, which happens to be a black kid he do not recognize, sitting directly behind him. He sees him and he says, "Who are you? What are you doing here?" Okay, I don't know if those are the exact words, but he struck up a conversation and he says, "You don't belong here."
Now, y'all already know that you don't belong here is already something that you know have a lot of tension. Tension is going to come behind that, right?
So when Hunter told him, "You don't belong here. You need to leave." His brother Austin, which Hunter and their mother admitted on camera that Austin always jumped in to protect his brother, Hunter. So when he heard Hunter going back and forth with Camello, he jumped in, okay? and he took over the conversation or he took over the bulk of the conversation because I'm not gonna say Hunter just dialed back and let his brother just take on the whole thing. No, in my opinion, I believe that Austin joined in and he took lead, but I still believe that Hunter was talking as well. Okay, cuz I'm just trying to picture the circumstances and I just can't see one brother just falling all the way back and allowing another brother to just take on and him not saying anything. I just don't think that it goes like that.
That's my opinion though. So, nevertheless, Austin took lead of the conversation, right? He is the older twin brother. I want to say they said older by 30 minutes or so or something like that. I don't know. But any any who he took over the conversation and he told Camello to leave. Camelo allegedly said make me and Austin grabbed his book bag and tossed the book bag. Now this is of Hunter's own words and I played the video before but just in case you are new to this channel, let me pull that video back up. Okay, let's pull it up where we hear his own words where he actually said that um his brother pulled the book bag.
Pulled Carmelo's Anthony book bag. See a lot of information um the news is not reporting now. We didn't even know about this and pulling of the book bag until one of the friends came out and spoke on it and um said that it came out during the bond hearing. That's why the bond was set at a million dollar. Well, that's I'm not going to say that's why, but it was one of the reasons the bond was set at a million dollars and the judge came back and reduced it to $250,000.
And they was mad at the judge because of that. Now, it wasn't this judge. It was a female judge, a black female judge.
They were so angry that she reduced the bond from a million dollars to $250 that they doxed her, put her information all out on social media to try to, you know, have someone to intimidate her. All right, so let's listen to the own words of the brother Hunter saying that his brother Austin grabbed Camlo's book bag.
Okay. snatched his property. Right, let's listen to it.
>> What happened?
>> There was this kid uh before I knew his name. Now, this kid was sitting under our our uh tent at track. We asked him to move. He started getting aggressive at track. We asked him to move. He started getting aggressive and talking reckless.
And my brother stepped in and said, "You need to move." And he's like, >> "My brother stepped in." Okay. His brother Austin. My brother stepped in and said, "You need to move." Okay. My brother stepped in. That's his twin.
Austin stepped in and said, "You need to move.
>> Make me move." Austin grabbed his backpack.
>> Austin grabbed his backpack. Austin is the brother that is now unal alived.
Okay. He first told Camello, "You need to move." When Camello responded, "Make me." Austin grabbed his property. Okay.
He grabbed his property.
>> They make me move. Austin grabbed his backpack.
>> All the rain.
>> So, when he said Austin grabbed his backpack, a lot of the reporters are not concentrating on that at all. They're not concentrating on Austin grabs his grab his backpack. They're not concentrating on Austin through his backpack. They're not concentrating on Austin pushed him out of the bleaches.
They're not even concentrating on Austin and the brother following him when he allegedly tossed the backpack. They're not concentrating on any of that. When I say they, I'm talking about the news reporters >> and he's like, "Make me move." Also, grab this backpack. So, right there again, if you are new to this channel, I don't know if you are or not, but if you have not heard it, out of Hunter's own mouth, Hunter said that Austin grabbed Carmelo Anony's backpack right there off the rip. That's why I do not understand the first degree charge. However, we do know that sometime people get charged with firstdegree and it is not a first degree. Austin initiated physical contact. If you if somebody have their book bag on there, their backpack on them, a you know, if you have your backpack, nine times out of 10, you're either going to have it strapped across your shoulder, one shoulder, or you're going to have it strapped on your back.
Okay? Nevertheless, you're not just going to be holding in your hand like this. You're going to have it, like I said, on your shoulder or on your back.
If Austin is grabbing his backpack, he made physical contact with Camelo Anthony first, which means Camelo Anthony wasn't looking to fight Austin.
Camelo Anthony wasn't looking to harm Austin. Camelo Anthony was minding his business. Even though he was sitting up under their school tent, he was on the phone minding his business to his until the brother Hunter start talking to him.
And then as you hear Hunter say out of his own mouth, "Austin jumped in it."
You can say, "Jumped in, leaped in, stepped in, came in, however you want to say, Austin inserted himself." Let's run that clip back yet again. Austin, the one that's unalived right now, he inserted himself. Austin stepped in >> and my brother stepped in and said, "You need to move." My brother stepped in and said, "You need to move." So, it wasn't already good enough. That one 200 pound brother was already talking to Camlo Anthony. That wasn't good enough. Okay.
His brother allegedly apparently needed help. One 200B fella wasn't good enough.
So, he needed another 200B fella to step in and reiterate, "You need to move."
Why did it take two again? He admitted it out of his own mouth. My brother stepped in. When I hear stepped in, let me tell you what that sounds like to me.
Stepped in mean he involved himself, too. He didn't say my brother Austin took over. HE SAID, "MY BROTHER AUSTIN STEPPED IN." My brother stepped in. So that tells me that they are both speaking to Austin at this time. When someone step in, they are involving themselves.
Okay. So now it's two against one. Two against one. Hunter started it. His brother stepped in. That's double teaming. Whether you're double teaming in arguing, yelling, fussing, cussing somebody out, or you are double teaming in intimidation, threats, or even physical aggression. Okay, again, let's run this back out of Hunter's own mouth, right? Now, this is before they lawyered up. Okay, this is the interview that he had right out, I want to say day one or day two of the incident. I want to say it may have been the next day. This is before they lawyered up and he's trying to keep things clean. When he came to the news and and spoke to other news outlet, he tried to dial it back and keep things clean. But this is his original one of his original statements.
I I don't think it was the original. The the original was with the police officer, but this was I want to say one of the original statements.
>> The aggressive and talking reckless and my brother stepped in and said he's a mood. So his brother stepped in when Camello Anthony started talking he says aggressive. Now we all know that is subjective. Okay.
Him saying um Carmelo was talking aggressive may have just been the fact that he wasn't complying with a 200B dude standing in front of his face. So, because he didn't want to comply, they could take that as, "Oh, he's being aggressive because he's not doing what I told him to do. I told him to get out of here. I told him to move and he wouldn't move." So, now his brother stepped in.
Now, it's two against one. All right?
That's my interpretation. All right? He didn't say my brother took over. He said my brother stepped in. Okay?
He started getting aggressive and talking. Reichless and my brother stepped in and said, "You need to move." And he's like, "Make me move." Austin grabbed his backpack.
>> Austin grabbed his backpack.
So now Austin stepped in and he put hands on Carmelo's personal property.
What people do not understand, anything on you is your personal property. And if somebody takes it, that is theft of your personal property. And you have a right to get your personal property back or you have a right to your personal property. Okay? Now, what should have happened didn't happen. One or both of them should have sought out an adult.
There were coaches there. From what I heard, it was three to four, even more coaches. Okay? There were parents there.
They should have sought out an adult.
The two 17year-old boys cho well the three the three the three 17year-old boys chose to take matters in their own hands. Okay. So Camelo Anthony didn't go get an adult.
Hunter didn't go get an adult. And Austin didn't go and get an adult. Okay.
Now, with that being said, we all heard that Austin took Carmelo Anony's backpack. All right. Now, it was said by a family member that he tossed the backpack and Austin went to retrieve it because they was like, if Austin grabbed his backpack, then how was Camlo Anthony able to reach in his backpack and take out a weapon? Well, they said when Austin grabbed the backpack, he threw it. Now, threw it, tossed it, he slung it. However, it ended up on the ground and all and Camelo went to go retrieve it and apparently they followed him. Now, when we looked the bleaches, it looked like everything happened in the bleaches. So, it does not look like he tossed it far, but however he tossed it, grabbed it, threw it, whatever the case may be.
Camelo Anthony went to retrieve the bag.
It has been said that the twins followed him. Again, I don't know how far that was. I don't even know if it was just a step away, 10 steps away, 20 steps away, but we will find out in court here soon.
Okay, that's why I cannot wait to hear the opening statements and hear the arguments that they have and the facts of the case because so much have been out here. But some things that's not out here that they don't want to put out because it does not show Austin MedF in a good light. Neither does his brother.
It does not show them in a good light.
So, with that being said, um, so when Camelo Anthony said, apparently Austin had put his hands on him and he said, "Put your hands on me again and see what happens."
When he said that, I'm going to assume that Austin had to put his hands on him again. Why? Because Hunter said out his own mouth on another interview that Austin pushed his brother out of the bleachers. Let me see if he said it on here. I don't know if he said it on here, but let me see. Um, even if he didn't say it on here, what he did say it on was the police report. Okay, he said on the police report, let's pull that up right quick. On the police report, and we're going to be showing this information um a lot. Okay. Um, med cleft. Give me a second.
So, I think they tried to I think it Oh, Lord, y'all.
If y'all can see what I see right now.
This is crazy. Oh, Lord, y'all. It is raining so hard out this mofo.
Let me see if I could just put this statement right here in here because this is where they say he was punched or pushed.
Let me just read it for you. It says, "When I arrived on the on the scene, let me read it to y'all because I don't know if you can see it. When I arrived on the scenes, I grabbed a roll of crime scene tape."
When I arrived on the scene, I grabbed a roll of crime scene tape from my truck and proceeded to the visitor's bleachers where dispatchers advised the victim was. While I was walking toward the visitor's bleachers, I was approached by a witness who identified himself as. So, they didn't went in and and and and blacked it out or whatever. Began telling me what happened and I asked him where the stabbing occurred.
The person advised, "It happened on the Memorial High School popup tent in the visitors bleachers. I immediately informed Sergeant Otis where the witnesses stated the stabbing occurred and gave him the crime scene tape to start securing the crime scene.
I then had moved I then I had this person move to the walkway under the visitors bleaches out of the rain to further speak to them. The following is a summary of my contact with blank.
I advised that he was sitting under the memorial school popup tent with his teammates and was never excuse me and was near the victim Austin and the suspect who was later identified as Carmelo Anthony. Then they got his date and birth and all that stuff. Anthony was from Centennial High School and was sitting under the Memorial High School tent.
Austin had told Anthony that he needed to move out from underneath the team's tent. And Anthony grabbed his bag, opened it up, reached in, and proceeded to tell Austin, "Touch me and see what happens."
No one really thought Anthony really had a weapon in his bag. And Austin proceeded to touch Anthony. This is what this witnesses is saying. There's different accounts, different witnesses account, but this is what this witness saying. We didn't know that Camello really had anything in his bag. Imagine that. Imagine thinking that you could bully someone, put your hands on someone, but not believing that they really had anything that they were going to use if you touch them. So again, Carlos put his hand in the bag allegedly and said, "Touch me again and see what happened." Again, the witness said, "We didn't think he really had anything in his bag." So Austin called his bluff. Okay. Let's just call it sp.
So, I'm excuse me, not Austin called his bluff.
Yeah. Yeah. Austin called his bluff. So, Camelo they said had his hands in the bag. He opened it up inside his bag, said, "Touch me again.
See what happened." No one really thought Anthony had anything in his bag.
And Austin proceeded to touch Anthony.
And then Anthony told Austin, "Punch me and see what happens." So now wait a minute.
So Carmelo Anthony, if we're going to go by this witness, had his hand in his bag and he told Austin, "Touch me and see what happens." Austin, touch him. While his hand still in the bag, he says, "Punch me and see what happens."
So, it says that um when he said that, no one really thought he had anything in in his bag, a weapon in his bag. Austin proceeded to touch him and then Anthony said, "Punch me and see what happened."
A short time later, Austin grabbed Anthony to tell him to move. And Anthony pulled out a K N I F E, which was black, and jabbed him one time in the chest and took off running. He dropped the weapon, left the book bag right there, dropped the weapon, and took off running across the field to the other side.
So, right there it tells me, and this is just one witness. We're going to get to the part where what his brother said that he pushed him, but right there, one witness, one witness alone says that it was not one but two times that Austin put his hands on him. Y'all give me a second because let me I'mma download this whole thing and I am going to put it in chat GPT because I want just specifics um noted. Okay, give me one second. I've done this be for you guys before. I want to do it again. I wanted to break down.
I want to know how many witnesses, Y'all know this thing can do it quicker than I can. I want to know how many witnesses actually said that um Austin put his hands on them. Okay?
You know, they don't like to report that in the news, but this is the arrest report. Okay? of these witnesses. I want to know how many witnesses saw Austin touch him.
All right, so that's what we're going to do. We're going to take this sevenpage report and we are going to Okay. Why is running this report? Let me close my window, baby. Because when I tell you it is raining, cats, dogs, mouse, birds, elephants, tigers, bears, lizards, show pigs, and frogs out this mother.
Hold on, y'all.
That's the way it was in Memphis last night, baby. Oo, child. I'm talking about the thunder. Do y'all hear it?
Do y'all hear that?
It is loud.
If y'all got pets or animals or something, go get your pets and bring them inside. All right.
So, let's let's find out how many witnesses.
It says, "Based on the arrest report that you uploaded, two witnesses accounts in the report that describe Austin making physical contact with Camlo before the stabbing."
All right. It says, um, "At least two witnesses statements in the arrest report describe Austin touching, grabbing, or punching." Oh, Lord. Father God IS CUTTING UP OUT THERE, Y'ALL. HE is cutting up. DANG, HE IS REALLY CUTTING UP. OKAY.
OH, Y'ALL. I wish I could show y'all, but I don't even know how to turn this camera around and do it anyway.
Okay. So, it says in the arrest report, at least two described physical contact, whether it was touching, grabbing, punching, pushing before the stabbing even took place.
Okay. Now, one witness who spoke with officer Taylor Witzel said that Austin proceeded to touch Anthony and later said Anthony Austin grabbed Anthony to tell him to move before Anthony allegedly pulled out the KN.
Okay. Now, another witness was Hunter, the brother.
Hunter.
Hunter who spoke with officer Alvin Fiser. Hunter said that Austin stood up his 200B body and pushed Carmelo to get him out of the tent before the stabbing.
Hunter said that out of his own mouth.
Let me read Hunter's statement word from word. Okay, word from word. This come from officer Fiser that took his statement.
I learned Hunter was the brother of the victim. I attempted to ask them both what happened. I could not really get anything out of Hunter, but Blank, another another witness stated he wanted to speak.
I asked him what happened and he stated they were all sitting on the bleaches under the memorial tent when another male who they did not know walked over and sat under their tent.
Blank then said Austin, who is the victim, told this male that since he did not attend Memorial High School that he had to leave the tent.
Austin and the male went back and forth with each other and then Austin stood up and pushed the male so that he can get out of the tent.
blank said during this time of arguing, the male was reaching around in his bag that he had.
It was at this time the male took out the knife and stabbed Austin and then left the scene.
It says one important thing. The report section says Hunter was present during this time, but the readable statement itself appears to come from other reacted persons who wanted to speak, not necessarily Hunter. No, no, no. Y'all must have changed that around.
Okay, let's go back. See, let me tell you something.
Y'all know I got the original video.
Let's go back to the original video because in the original video, Hunter did speak. So, we going to go back to the original video right quick.
Uh-uh. I don't know what they got going on. Raise your hand if you remember me telling y'all in the original report.
Hunter did speak to them.
And Hunter actually said that his brother put hands on Carmelo. Now all of a sudden it is redacted. Y'all y'all see how this Y'all see what's going on? How you going to redact something from a police? So wait a minute. Let me ask Chat GPT. Hold on.
So, are you telling me in this report no one captured Hunter's statement?
I'm telling y'all, I got the original one.
And I'm going to pull it up.
It said yes, based on this report alone.
See, now I just pulled this report off the internet. It says, "Based on this report alone, I do not see clear capture statements from Hunter itself. Hold your horses."
Hold your horses.
Now, do y'all I want to ask y'all, do y'all remember me telling y'all in the original statement that Hunter spoke?
So, I just pulled one up from in May.
Let me see if this is the same report.
Let's see if this is the same report.
Matter of fact, let's just pull up my old video. Let's go to YouTube.
What I'm going to do is now that I see that it looks like they may be trying to omit some things. From now on, I'm going to take clips of my old video and just have them on standby just so I can reference them.
I know I'm not the only one that have captured his brother stating that he was pushed. This is four months ago.
Let me see if it's in here. Right now it said, >> okay, this is from four months ago that I did um this right here. And I know I went over this report four months ago.
So, this is this report seems to be a lot longer than the than the one I have now.
So, let's listen to this report. Let me look at some of your um your comments and then we're going to pull up the report that um that I did on Oh, it says one year ago. I did this on April the 9th of 2025. Okay. So, this was done on April the 9th of 2025. Let me read some of your comments. And do you see how this report is much longer than the other report? But anyway, let's let's look at some of your comments.
More information is coming out. Okay.
More information is coming out. Shoot.
I'm sorry. I was thinking you were where we were earlier. Something sometime mine jumped if I accidentally hit something.
Okay. I think there is info we don't know about yet. Okay. I definitely do believe that it is first degree. I also believe there is more information Oh, you said I definitely don't believe it's first degree. Oh, okay. And I also believe that there is more information that's going to come out that hurts the prosecutor. Okay. I think there's more information. So, but mo most of you guys are saying y'all believe that it is some information that's going to be coming out. All right. So, I did this a year ago, you guys. I did this a year ago.
And I just want to take a listen to what I said a year ago in regards to this because if I'm not mistaken, I do believe that the brother did speak to the officer and tell him that his brother was his brother pushed him pushed him out of the bleaches. So, let's listen the arrest report. All right. So, let's zoom in again.
Carmela Anthony is the black young guy that stabbed the white fella. All right.
It says on April the 2nd, 2025 at 10:01 hours, I Stanley school resource officer Cortez heard over the radio dispatch called out a stabbing called at David.
I'm going to speed it up just a little bit cuz you know sometime I can talk a little slow but um I'mma speed it up a little bit just to get this out of the way who Kindle stated. All right, I'mma skip some of the stuff that I don't find important. The FPD called notes indicated that an athlete had been stabbed. The suspect was reported as being a black male wearing a gray hoodie and a blue sweatpants. I immediately left my office and I ran across the Stanley Middle School parking lot toward a southwest entrance into the stadium.
As I entered the stadium, two high school age students informed me that the victim, which is the white guy, was on the north end of the stadium by the bleachers under a Memorial High School tent. I did not identify these students.
Next, I proceeded toward the north end of the stadium, which is the visitor's side, on foot. As I got closer to the north end, I could see the Memorial High School tent with multiple individuals under the tent. Once I arrived onto the north side bleachers and adult male who was on the track, pointed out the suspect. I was not able to identify that witness. The individual that was pointed out to me was a black man wearing a gray hoodie, sweater, and dark colored Nike pants. The suspect at this point was on the track on the north end. Hold on.
I know it's kind of I know it's kind of uh Let me see if I can make it like Well, it's tiny. You going have to work with me. It's fine, y'all. It's tiny. Hold on. See if I can take a little bit.
>> It's been a year.
>> I'm playing with the thing to sit down on the ground.
Officer Ricky had arrived on the scene at that time. I conducted another pat down on him and then searched his person after he gave me consent. There was no weapons found in that location.
While the suspect sat on the ground, I advised that I had the alleged suspect.
So he called out, "I have the alleged suspect apprehended." the suspect, which is the BLACK GUY, CARMELA, HE responds and says, "I'm not a mage. I did." Now, let me just stop right there.
You can definitely tell that this young fella has never been in no type of trouble because had he been in any type of trouble, he would have known to keep his mouth shut, okay? But he yelled out, "It's not a ledge. I did it. So, he owned it. He admitted it." Okay?
>> Wish you would have done that, but nevertheless, next. Officer Ricky and I walked the suspect to patrol vehicle 22412.
This is officer Ricky's patrol vehicle which was on the northeast gate of the stadium. As we were walking to the squad car, the suspect, the black kid, Carmelo was emotional and said he put his hands on me. I told him not to. I did not question the suspect about the incident while he was escorted to the patrol vehicle. Right. So meaning Carmela gave this information on his own. I searched this person once again and I had him to sit in the back seat of the patrol car.
While the suspect was in the back seat, I noticed fresh blood on his left finger. I verbically verbally acknowledged that I saw blood out loud so that it would be captured on my bodywn camera. It should also be noted that the suspect asked is he going to be okay while he was in the back seat. So Carmela asks was Anthony excuse me a for again for those that are just coming in and do not know I am playing what I read from the arrest report one year ago.
Okay actually now it's year a year and a couple of months April of 2025 I read this a year ago. Okay going to be okay. I then identified the suspect. So now he identified who Carmemella Anthony was. He provided his name and date of birth verbally as Carmela Anthony, black male with a date of birth of blah blah blah, which I ran through the FBD dispatch. Officer Hancock then arrived on the scene and rema reminded me, excuse me, remained with me and the suspect at this point.
Carmela was then checked via e school database for the FISD student to also confirm his identity. So they did a double check to find out that he did indeed tell them the correct information in identifying himself. It it was a match. Okay. On what he told them and what the school system it was a match.
Next, I was advised by Sergeant Hollow to transport transport the subject to the Frisco PD jail. Officer Hancock and I transported him to jail. Again, I did not question him about the incident.
Okay. No questions. Upon arrival to the jail, Carmemelllo was escorted into the intake area. FPD jail staff changed him into jail attire. You know those cute little jumpsuit [ __ ] that I said I don't want to ever be in. So he had to go dress out. And I remained with the jail staff the entire time that he was changed over. The clothes that Carmela was wearing was placed in an FPD paper evidence bag. The clothes remained in my possession from this point on. Upon Carmela being placed into a jail cell, I continued to keep possession of his clothes. I returned to my patrol vehicle along with Officer Hancock and we placed Carmela clothes in the back trunk area. I drove my car out of the uh Sally Port and parked the squad in a crime scene. Uh what is it? in a FBP patrol parking area or whatever.
Carmemella clothes remained in the trunk. And the reason why they saying this because what they're trying to say is that nobody else had access to his clothes. So they can't, you know, they didn't tamper with evidence is what he's trying to say. So anyway, and then they ended up, it said the crime scene technician, K. Diller, then took possession of the clothes. So basically, they trying to say they had eyes on his clothing until it was turned over to a crime scene technician. Okay. I added my body worn camera to the case. I have no further information to report. Right.
Now, there are supplementals. Now, I This is This was done by Let me see the first guy. This was done and he is being Let me say this right quick. He is being charged with firstdegree felony. I'm not done though, you guys. He's being charged with first degree felony. This was officers uh Cortez at or at a court, whatever his name is. Cortez. This was his statement. Now, we are going into another officer's statement. This is officer Taylor. Okay. Now, officer Taylor says, "Give me a sec.
Officer Taylor says, "Let me blow it up."
On Wednesday, April the 2nd, I was assigned to work patrol in the city of Frisco. See, I this report right here that I received back in April of last year.
It didn't have all the crossing out.
Okay, they had some crossing out, but they actually had some names in here.
Okay, they did they did not cross out all names. I'm not sure why, but they have since went back and crossed out a lot. And I'm assuming they did that because these people are going to be testifying in the court. Okay. In the case at approximately 10:02 hours, I responded to the report of a stabbing got. Let me just see if he said anything different. All right. He says, "When I arrived on the scene, I grabbed a roll of crime scene tape from my trunk and proceeded to the visitor's bleachers where dispatch advised the victim was.
While I was walking toward the visitor bleachers, I was approached by a witness who identified himself as blah blah blah." began telling me what happened and I asked him where did the stabbing occur and he advised it happened under the memorial high school popup tent in the visitors bleachers. I immediately informed Sergeant Oes where the witness state that no visitors bleachers. Okay, wait a minute. So wait a minute. Okay, now I got to ask myself a question. Let me write that down cuz if it was the visitor's bleachers. Okay, so I may have to correct myself.
>> This is when I did not know whether it was a real school or not. But since I found out that it wasn't a school, it was like a uh any like a um it was like a uh it was called David uh Q Kindle Q Kindle Stadium. So it was a stadium. It was a location that they were using for that track meet, but it was a school event. So you would hear me say, "Wait a minute. And I thought it wasn't a school or it was a school because at that time I did not know a year ago exactly where that location was, but it was a stadium that they used for their track meet event. Okay, because I thought it was the other boy school, but now they say the visitor bleach, but I'll get back to that in a minute. Anyway, so it happened under the Memorial High School popup tent in the visitors bleaches. I immediately informed Sergeant Otus where the witness stated the stabbing occurred and gave him the crime scene tape to start securing the crime scene. I then had moved to the walkway under the business bleaches out of the range to further speak with me. The following is a summary of my contact with blah blah blah advised. He was sitting on the Memorial High School popup tent with his team and was near the victim. Okay. He says, "All right, Austin." And the suspect who was later identified as Carmela Anthony was from Centennial High School and was sitting under the Memorial High School tent. Wait a minute.
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. So they went to the same school. So again, I was a little confused, y'all. A year ago, I was a little confused as to who went to whose school, whether they knew each other, whether they both went to Centennial, whether they both went to Memorial. But I have since found out that they went to two separate schools.
Uh Camello Anthony attended Centennial High School, whereas Austin and his brother Hunter attended Memorial High School. So you got Centennial and Memorial, two different schools. So again, that's why you're you you hear me being a little confused a year ago as to what schools and uh where they were located during the uh track meeting.
Austin and the suspect, who was later identified as Carmela Anthony, was from Centennial High School and was sitting under the Memorial High School tent. Austin had told Anthony that he needed to move out from under their tent and Anthony grabbed his back. Wait a minute, you guys.
Let me finish reading. Let me finish reading because wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. So anyway, uh Austin had told Anthony that he needed to move out from under their team's tent. And Anthony grabbed his bag, opened it, and reached inside and proceeded to tell Austin, "Touch me and see what happens." No one really thought Anthony really had a weapon in his bag.
And Austin proceeded to touch Anthony.
Well, okay, that's finished. And then Anthony told Austin to punch him and see what happened. So he said he said, "You touch me and see what happened." When he when he called his bluff, basically, he didn't think he would do it. So then Anthony said, "Punch me and see what happened." A short time later, Austin, the white kid, grabbed Anthony, the black kid, to tell him to move. And Anthony pulled out and it scratched out. So, we already know what it is.
And well, he said he pulled out what whatever that says recall as a black knife and stabbed Austin once in the chest and then ran away. So, he stabbed him and ran. Austin began grabbing his chest and telling everybody to get help.
Blank advised he did not know Anony's name, but stated another memorial track member was friends with Anthony and could identify Anthony. described Anthony as a black male, skinny with a possible goatee, short puppy hair, and wearing Centennial High School clothing.
This concluded my contact with this person. I then was instructed to start a crime scene log. I retrieved a crime scene log from my patrol vehicle and begin starting the crime scene log. I was later released by another officer who took over the crime scene. I logged off. All right, so now another officer, let's see if he said anything different.
After hearing more dispatch call information, I drove to the scene while in route. I'mma see if I can get to the part where he said about Hunter, y'all.
Let me see if I can get to the part where he said about Hunter.
I think this is it right here. Let's see. Ooh. My lights are flickering, y'all. Hold on. Hold on, y'all. Let's get through this Joker. Let's get through this Joker. Come on, Lord. Work with me. All right. Now, this is another officer, Frisker. Alan Chris Fisher. Let me see if he said anything different.
He did. Okay. He said, "When I arrived to the crime scene was already My lights are flickering. Do y'all see that?
It is cutting up out here, y'all. It is cutting up out here, baby. But listen, hold on. Let's see if we can get through this. Let's see if we can get through this, y'all." Uh, the crime scene was already marked off and the suspect was already in custody. Honey, I began asking the people if they were witnesses to anything. I made contact with Hunter, blah blah blah. They were both breathing heavily and crying due to the nature of it. Again, they were with coaches on the field and it was pouring down rain.
>> He said, "I made contact with Hunter."
Did y'all hear that?
>> Okay. Now, mind you, it was pouring down raining and that is why they was under tent in the first place. Okay. We made the decision to relocate to a locker room just to just to the east to get out of the rain. Once in there, things calmed down a little bit. However, they were still hysterical and could not really talk. In there, I learned that Hunter was a brother of the victim. So, now we are talking to the twin brother.
The white guy is a twin. Hunter is Austin's twin. Okay. So, now they are talking to the twin brother. I attempted to ask them both what happened. I could not really get anything out of Hunter, but he stated that he wanted to speak. I asked him what happened and he said they were all sitting ON THE BLEEP. DO Y'ALL HEAR THIS? DO Y'ALL HEAR ME?
Do y'all hear me? I need to know. Do y'all hear me?
Do y'all see what just happened? Hold on. So, it said that he was crying historically, but he said he wanted to talk. I am getting ready to pull up.
Hold on, y'all. Listen to what I'm saying. I'm reading verbatim from this thing. So, a year ago, Hunter talked.
Now, all of a sudden, it's retracted.
Hold on. What's the name of the officer again? Give me a second. So, officer um Hold on because they relocated to Give me a second. Alvin Fisher.
Alvin Fisher. Let's get to Alvin Fischer over here cuz Alvin Fiser said something totally different a year ago. Okay, y'all.
Cut cut the [ __ ] [ __ ] y'all.
Y'all, I can't believe this. I cannot believe this, y'all. I'm about to put up the difference of the statements. They didn't cut off the statement, y'all.
This is what they are reporting today.
This is some fraggonagle [ __ ] Y'all look at this. Watch this. WATCH WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SHOW Y'ALL. WHAT THEY ARE reporting today. Now, this is three statements right here.
I'mma give y'all three statements that this is what they're showing today.
Okay, look at this. This is what they're saying that's being reported from Austin Alvin Fisher today.
Do you see this? Oh, no. Not that one.
This one. Do y'all see Alvin Fisher statement today?
You see how short that is right here?
Alvin statement today.
I'm so glad that I kept this from a year ago, y'all. A year ago, his statement from a year ago says something more alone like this. Hold on. Let's get to the statement from a year ago right here. Officer Fischer, y'all listen to what Officer Fischer said a year ago. Listen to me.
Relieved by another officer who took over the crime scene. I logged off. All right. So now another officer, let's see if he said anything different. Escorted the suspect to rain and that is why they was under they were witnesses to anything.
>> Let's get to officer FISH >> TO THAT SCHOOL. THEY WENT TO THE SAME school and they were both visiting Memorial High School track. That's what I'm getting. But let me finish reading you guys. Let me finish reading. This is my first time reading this like you guys. Okay. Only a short time later, Officer Cortez and myself escorted the suspect to the uh Frisco Adult Holdings Facility. Anthony was transitioned off to the jail staff without incident. A jail paperwork was completed.
>> Okay, here come officer Fischer.
>> And there C did. All right. Now, this is another officer, Frisker. Uh Alvin Chris Fisher, let me see if he said anything different.
He did. Okay. It says, "When I arrived to the crime scene, was already uh the crime scene was already marked off and the suspect was already in custody.
Honey, I began asking the people if they were witnesses to anything. I made contact with hunter blah blah blah. They were both breathing heavily and crying due to the nature of the event. They were with coaches on the field and it was pouring down raining." Okay, now mind you, it was pouring down raining and that is why they was under the tent in the first place. Okay, we made the decision to relocate to a locker room just to just to the east to get out of the rain. Once in there, things calm down a little bit. However, they were still hysterical and could not really talk in. So, if you read the statement now, and I'm going to blow it up because I want y'all to see it doesn't say none of that. Okay, well, I'mma go back. Hold on. Let me pull up what it says today.
What what um what the Fisher statement says today. And I want y'all to be reading that while I am speaking of what it said a year ago. Okay.
I just want y'all to to to follow along with me. Okay. Well, maybe I got that wrong. Hold on. Hold on, y'all. I may have gotten it wrong. Let's Let's go back because the name was Okay. Hold on, y'all. Hold on. Let's go back. The name was crossed out. Okay, hold on. Let's go back. Maybe I got the name wrong. Let's go back to Fisher. Here we go. If I got it wrong, I'll say I got it wrong. Okay, hold on. Let's go back.
>> Relieved by another officer who took over the crime scene. I logged off. All right. So, now another officer. Let's see if he said anything different. Let's go to All right. Now, this is another officer, Frisker. Alvin Fris Fisher. Let me see if he said anything different.
He did. Okay. It says, "When I arrived to the crime scene was already uh the crime scene was already marked off and the suspect was already in custody.
Honey, I began asking the people if they were witnesses to anything. I made contact with hunter blah blah blah."
They were both breathing heavily and crying due to the nature of the event.
They were with coaches on the field and it was pouring down raining. Okay? Now, mind you, it was pouring down raining and that is why they was under the tent in the first place. Okay. We made the decision to relocate to a locker room just to just to the east to get out of the rain. Once in there, things calm down a little bit. However, they were still hysterical and could not really talk in there. I learned that Hunter was the brother of the victim. So, now we are talking to the twin brother. The white guy is a twin. Hunter is Austin's twin. Okay. So, now they are talking to the twin brother. I attempted to ask them both what happened. I could not really get anything out of Hunter, but he stated that he wanted to speak. I asked him what happened and he said they were all sitting on but he stated that he wanted to speak. Hold on.
Hold on y'all. They were both breathing heavily and crying due to the nature of the event. They were with coaches on the field. Okay. I learned that Hunter was a brother. I could not really get anything out of Hunter, but he stated that he wanted to speak. I asked him what happened and he stated that they were all sitting under bleaches under the memorial tent with another male who did not know. Huh. This crazy. Hold on y'all.
The white guy is a twin. Hunter is Austin's twin. Okay. So now they're talking to the twin brother. I attempted to ask them both what happened. I could not really get anything out of Hunter, but he stated that he wanted to speak. I asked him what happened and he said they were all sitting on the bleaches. Now this is the twin brothers account. They were all sitting under the bleachers under a Memorial High School tent. So now it's not even his tent. See, media is something different, baby. Media is something different. So when another male who he did not know walked over and sat under the tent. Oh baby, this is getting juicy. This is getting juicy.
Because it wasn't it wasn't their tent.
It was a Memorial High School tent.
>> Okay y'all, I know I sound crazy. I did not realize at that time that the boys did go to Memorial High School. Okay, >> again, let me read this again. I attempted to ask both of them what happened. I could not really get anything out of Hunter, the twin brother, but Hunter stated that he wanted to speak. I asked him what happened and Hunter himself SAID THEY WERE SITTING ON THE bleaches under a Memorial High School high school tent when another male, the black guy who he didn't know, WALKED OVER AND SAT under the tent. Then said Austin, the white guy, the victim, told this black guy that since he did not go to memorial, he had to leave the tent. Austin and the male went back and forth. And then Austin stood up and punch, excuse me, Austin, the white guy, stood up and pushed THE MAIL. IT GETS JUICIER. IT GETS JUICIER BECAUSE HIS TWIN BROTHER SAID that Austin, THE GUY THAT DIED, STOOD up and pushed THE MALE TO GET him out of the tent. Baby, we didn't know that. WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE ALREADY PUSHED HIM BEFORE THE STABBING. Let's go. HE PUSHED HIM TO GET HIM OUT of the tent and said during this time of argument, excuse me, during the tent and blank had said during this time of argument, the male was reaching around in his bag. He had hold on.
All right, hold on y'all. Let's find out the differences.
Somebody said chat GPT University. Yep, chat GPT University over here. So let's tell what was the difference in the statement that I read off August, excuse me, April of 2025 versus today, June the 2nd that is on the internet. Let's listen you guys.
>> Yes. Here's a smooth readaloud version you can say to your audience.
Okay, y'all. So, I want to clear something up because I went back and compared the statement that I read on my live stream back in April to the statement that is circulating today, June 2nd. And from what I can see, it appears to be the same Officer Alvin Fischer statement. I do not see a major wording difference in the key part of the report. Now, here is what matters.
Officer Fischer says he made contact with Hunter, who was Austin's brother, and another person whose name is redacted in the report. The report says that both of them were breathing heavily and crying because of what had just happened. They were moved to a locker room to get out of the rain. And once things calmed down a little bit, the officer says he learned that Hunter was the brother of the victim. But here is the important part. Officer Fischer says, "I attempted to ask them both what had happened. I could not really get anything out of Hunter, but Redacted stated he wanted to speak.
So based on that wording, the officer is clearly separating Hunter from the other person who actually gave the detailed statement. That means the detailed version about what happened under the tent does not appear to come directly from Hunter in this report. It appears to come from the other redacted witness.
That redacted witness said they were sitting under the Memorial High School tent when another male who he did not know walked over and sat under the tent.
The witness then said Austin told that male that since he did not go to memorial, he had to leave the tent. Then the witness said Austin and the male went back and forth and then Austin stood up and pushed the male to get him out of the tent. The witness also said that during the arguing, the male was reaching around in his bag and that is when the male took out a knife, stabbed Austin, and then left the scene. So again, to be very clear, I'm not saying Hunter gave that detailed statement because the report does not read that way. The report says the officer could not really get anything out of Hunter.
The detailed statement appears to come from another witness whose name is redacted. So the correction or clarification is this. Hunter was present. Hunter was identified as Austin's brother. But based on this arrest report, Hunter is not the person who gave the detailed statement about Austin standing up and pushing Carmelo.
That statement appears to come from another redacted witness.
Okay. So, hold on.
So, are you saying in both reports, cuz maybe I'm I'm I'm reading this wrong. So in both reports it was stated that um Austin pushed Carmelo Anthony to get him to rem to move.
Yes, you are reading that part correctly. In both versions of the officer Alvin Fischer statement, the detailed witness account says Austin stood up and pushed Carmemelllo Anthony the mail to get him out of the tent. The key wording is open quote. Austin and the male went back and forth and then Austin stood up and pushed the male to get him out of the tent. Close quote. So yes, both versions say Austin pushed him. But the important clarification is who said it. The report does not clearly say Hunter gave that statement. It says officer Fiser could not really get anything out of Hunter. And then another redacted witness said he wanted to speak and gave the detailed account.
>> Say it is. Both versions of the report say a witness stated Austin stood up and pushed Carmelo to get him out of the tent. However, based on the wording, that statement appears to come from another redacted witness, not directly from Hunter.
>> Okay. All right. So, then I was wrong, y'all. I actually thought that it was different. It's the same. So, for some reason, I could not uh I thought it did not say he pushed him, but apparently he did. So, okay. So, I was wrong. And that's not Hunter's statement. For some reason, I thought that was Hunter's statement. It was not Hunter's statement. It was a different person that was with Hunter. So, it said that he couldn't get anything out of Hunter.
So, another guy spoke for him. I actually said that it was Hunter that spoke. And all this time, I had believed that it was Hunter. I thought that Hunter gave this statement on the police report. So I was incorrectly saying that stating that it was not Hunter that gave the statement. It was a person with Hunter. Okay. So let me make that correction. Hunter did not. So let me just ask one more time. All right. It said yes. Based on the arrest report, Hunter did not provide a captured detail statement. The report says Officer Fischer made contact with Hunter and another person, but learned Hunter was Austin's brother. and then wrote, "I attempted to ask them both what happened. I could not really get anything out of Hunter, but the redacted person stated that he wanted to speak."
Okay, so I stand corrected you guys. All this time, I thought that that was Hunter's statement saying that his brother Austin pushed Camlo Anthony out of the bleachers, but it was not Hunter that said that. Let's see what he said on the first interview. This is his own words.
Oh, my lights keep flickering, y'all.
Oh, y'all. Did Did Jay forget to pay the bill? Let's see what Hunter says on his own words.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> I wish there was an easy way to >> Hold on. We got to let this commercial play because, you know, everybody got to get paid. Everybody got to get paid.
Okay.
So, um I stand corrected. This whole time I actually thought that Hunter admitted that his brother pushed Austin.
Excuse me. His brother pushed Camello.
Austin pushed Camello. So, let's find out what he actually said. He said Hunter Hunter is going to have to take the stand. Yeah, I'm going to assume Hunter will have to take the stand because he was there even though he said he looked away briefly and when he looked back around. Okay, hold on. This is the mother speaking right here y'all.
Let's listen up. My son is not here anymore and I don't >> Hold on. Let me get a a better a better um version of this.
>> Can I? Yeah.
>> Just because the kid was mad.
>> So, of course, she say that Carmelo Anthony stabbed her son because he was mad. Yeah. I don't know. It's because your son wasn't being a very nice little kid either. Okay. Miss um Medcliffe or whatever your name is. Just because the kid was mad, my son is not here anymore and I don't understand it.
>> Frisco family mourns runner stabbed at track me.
>> Tell just tell me about what happened today. I I don't know. I just I got a phone call from Hunter. Um he was screaming that Austin had been stabbed.
Um, I was at work and so I drove I work in Grapevine, so I drove up to the hospital straight away.
>> I'm gonna fast forward it to when the brother came out and spoke with the uh reporter lady. Okay.
He came out and he wanted to say something.
>> I'm so sorry for him.
>> Thank you.
>> I'm so so sorry.
>> He's a good kid.
We just got a little education and that's really it. But he has a good heart. Everyone knows everyone know around here knows he's a great kid. He just just want one mistake from that dude and just just took my brother just he didn't deserve it. No one no one deserves a loss from the family like that. I know people that lose their family members all the time. Bes mine so soon. My best friend, my brother my whole life. But if y'all if y'all could just like not y'all. Sorry. Just like thank you all for just comforting us and like the Frisco area has been comforting my family and me and I just really appreciate everything that everyone's done. It's just it's it's a really hard loss, but we're going to we're going to get through it with my family. So, we'll just stay together.
>> I mean, our relationship is really the tightest I've ever seen in somebody like between uh two human beings. I mean, we did everything together. clean the dishes together, do the yard work together, sports, you name anything in the world, it's always us two and one thing. So, you're always just basically one person.
>> You guys just a few minutes apart.
>> He said he's they're they do everything together. Dishes, yard work, everything.
They do everything together. He said their relationship is the tightest he's ever seen in two people, right? He said they did everything together. So, are we to believe that when Austin jumped in and started taking up for his brother that his brother just backed down and just didn't say nothing? Yeah. No, they do everything together. All right. So, if they arguing, they arguing together, right?
>> Four minutes.
>> Mhm. Austin was first by four minutes.
He got stuck in me.
>> Technically, your favorite brother.
>> He does a lot of big brother stuff around. He's always at my back. Even if I'm in the wrong, he'll always take my side no matter what. It's so just really heartbreaking to see someone that that cares for me that >> even if I'm in the wrong, he always take my side. So whether Hunter is wrong or not, he often always take his side, which it it appears here that may have cost him his life taking his brother's side.
>> Much does everything even by your side no matter what. Just pass away like that. Were your mom told me that you were there?
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> If you if you don't mind, what happened?
>> There was this kid uh before I knew his name. Now, this kid was sitting under our our uh tent at track. We asked him to move. He started getting aggressive and talking reckless. And my brother stepped in, said, "You need to move."
He's like, "Make me move." Austin grabbed his backpack. the kid. I I tried to whip around as fast as I could, but I didn't see the stab, but then I look at my I look at my brother and then I'm not going to talk about the rest.
>> Just that's that's what I saw. I mean, I mean, I try to I try to help him, but >> it was just senseless.
>> It was It was really senseless. Really, I don't know why a person would do that to someone just over that little argument. It's just it's just crazy in this world nowadays. How people just up and do that like that a man has a family. A man has people that care about them all the time. And he he he did everything for our family, too. He was a strong man. He was a strong strong kid.
>> Real strong. And I know I'm strong, too.
But he was a little stronger. But he just he just he did a lot for our family and a bunch of stuff that we just don't recognize. And it's just like especially throughout our friends, too.
Like everyone everyone knew like he was the peacemaker. He was, that's what I'm saying. He heard someone who really makes peace, really calms peace out. He makes everything.
>> So if he was the peacemaker, then why did he grab the book bag and put hands on Carmelo? If he is the peacemaker, do you think he did it to please his brother Hunter? Because Hunter wanted him gone. So because he does everything in def, you know, to protect his brother, he did that for his brother. So is that what we're hearing?
sail smoothly and he cuz I I I get upset but then he calms me down. He's just >> so Hunter gets upset. So Hunter saw him first and Hunter is the one that said you don't belong here leave. Right. And then Austin jumped in and I guess he said if my brother don't want you here then you got to leave. Okay. So it sounds like that Hunter is the troublemaker and his brother was just taken up for him. So it sounds to me that his brother lost his life for taking up for his brother Hunter. Okay.
>> He was just always there for me. So it's just really heartbreaking to see like how this happened.
>> My goodness. And you guys are >> 17.
>> 17.
>> Yeah. They'll be 18 in July.
I saw a lot of articles say you guys were 16. I wasn't sure.
>> Yeah, we're Yeah, they're 17.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Junior.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Yeah.
>> Austin wanted to play football. he would have played college football.
>> He would have >> he definitely used his mindset, his skill level, his IQ with the game was probably the best I've seen in the Frisco area >> as a linebacker. He he was a stud and I always try to fill those shoes with him and play with him and I had a bl I had a blast my whole life playing sports with him my whole life. It was just me and him always good against people last year the guy who was this year. So it's just really heartbreaking not to see him next year on the field.
I'm so sorry, my love. Oh my goodness. I saw that he won like linebacker of the years for the Frisco Memorial. He he was um >> second team all district, which he should have been first, but >> it's just he >> everyone knows around this area the impacts of what he does for football and what he does for families and friends.
Like he's just a great guy overall to be around and >> hard worker >> extremely. It's just really hard. It's just really hard to see someone go like that just for like recklessness.
>> Mhm.
>> My focus of my story is of course >> and you know he even you at 17 years old, right? He even used a word and said it was recklessness. Okay. Recklessness and murder is two different things.
Carmelo Anthony is being charged with firstdegree murder. I do not believe that this was a firstdegree murder.
Okay. intentional malicious murder. Even uh Hunter even said it himself for recklessness. Okay.
>> Austin, that is what's most important.
But what would you say about the suspect and what's next?
>> I don't know anything about him. We don't we have nothing to say.
>> I've never met this kid until right right then. It really was under 30 seconds this altercation. That's I've never met this kid in my entire life.
And none of this would have happened if Hunter wouldn't have turned around and was being mean and telling someone that was literally just sitting to get out from underneath their tent. Okay? See, none of this would have happened if Hunter would have would have had a heart. If his mother would have taught him to be a little bit more kinder to people, it was raining outside. Who tells somebody to get from underneath our tent and go stand in the damn rain?
Only someone that don't have a heart.
Someone has no compassion. whatsoever.
Somebody that's, you know, acting in the capacity of a damn bully, okay?
>> It's just >> and to be honest with you, we don't want to give him any recognition or any care cuz that's not >> we're we're not we have no desire to have anything to do with that man.
>> So, >> and you can already tell what type of person or family they come from. Look how the mom already holding hate in her heart. She's already holding hate in her heart, not realizing, yes, your you lost your son, but your son wasn't completely innocent. Your son put hands on someone, not once, but twice. Ma'am. Ma'am. Okay, ma'am.
>> I can hear you. What would you say to him?
>> I'd say that's really hard, but I'd say a lot of things because I saw him before his last moments and it was just >> how much we loved him. He knew that.
>> He He knew how much I loved him, how much I do for him, anything I do anything for him. Yeah.
>> No matter what.
>> So, you know, it sounds like Hunter may be throwing the mama underneath the bus because when the reporter said, "If he was here right now, what would you say to him?" The mother said, "You know, just tell him how much we loved him."
And the brother said he knew how much I loved him. He took away the we like, "No, ma'am. You're not going to get the credit because I loved him. I don't know about you, okay?
>> Things because I saw him before his last moments and it was just >> how much we loved him. He >> Let's go back to the ladies saying, "What would you tell him?" Okay, hold on.
>> We're not We have no desire to have anything to do with that man.
>> So, if Austin can hear you, what would you say?
>> If Austin can hear you, what would you say to him?
If Austin can hear you, what would you say to him?
The mother is going to say, "Tell him how much we loved him." But he knew we loved him. The brother is going to say, "He knew how I how much I loved him."
>> I'd say that's really hard, but I'd say a lot of things because I saw him before his last moments and it was just >> how much we loved him. He knew that.
>> He He knew how much I loved him. How much >> He knew how much I loved him.
>> I do for him anything.
>> How much I do for him, how much I do for him, I will do anything for him. He knew how much I loved him. Okay. So, the mother said we and Hunter said, "I I I I >> We're not We have no desire to have anything to do with that, man."
>> So, If Austin can hear you, what would you say to him?
>> I'd say that's really hard, but I'd say a lot of things because I saw him before his last moments and it was just >> how much we loved him. He knew that >> he he knew how much I loved him. How much what I do for him. Anything I do anything for him.
>> Yeah.
>> No matter what he call me anything that he needs, I I do it for him.
>> He's he's just a a great guy. So when you have you're a great guy, you want people to be around you, they're going to be around you no matter what. like he's he's a great leader.
That's why I always want to tell him like I always wanted to be like like him in that sense. It's like how he just uh communicates and has great ways with people all the time. And I just I always looked up to him for like that. He was he wasn't a big brother in a sense. We were the same age, but he was a big brother to me.
We just want to make sure that everybody knows how much that Austin was is going to be still in our lives as far as in our memories and our hearts for ever.
You know, it's he's uh it's going to be really hard. This is going to be really hard.
>> I can see how much you guys love and adore him.
>> Yeah. I don't I'm really trying not to cry, but it's a >> not your baby.
>> Yeah. He was my big baby. He was 225 lbs.
Both of them big boys. And >> 225 lbs against 160 lb.
Not just one 225.
Two 225 boys. 225. That's 450 lbs against fella.
>> I loved movie time with them. They would ask me if he'd watch a movie and sit on the couch and he'd put his head on my lap and I'd scratch his back and he was just I don't know. He'd tell me things.
He was so personable with me and you know I knew I knew stuff that most teenagers wouldn't tell.
>> If it was oneonone that would make this totally different. But the fact that both brothers were arguing or standing up against one other guy that's um 160 lbs. That makes a difference. A lot of people don't think that, but now you got two against one. You got 450 lb against 160 lb. Okay. their moms that just things that he cuz we wanted to be we were close, you know, and um now it's going to be us wringling the future together.
>> I know you were with him till the end, right?
>> Did you hold him the whole time?
>> I didn't. They yanked me off.
>> Yeah, they had to leave. He had to be removed when they did CPR. Um and then he wasn't able to be in the ambulance with him on the way to the to the hospital. So it was just like hard heart throbbing the whole time. The whole ride on the hospital. I just >> How did you get to the hospital?
>> My dad. My dad came. I I called my mom.
My mom didn't know. She just know she didn't answer. She was at work and then she answered my phone. I told her what happened. She She came right away and then we drove to the hospital. We're trying to figure everything out.
>> Yeah, it was hard. That was tough cuz we saw I I I beat the ambulance there. I don't even know how that's possible, but I did uh because I came in from Grapevine.
>> Okay.
So he said he called his mom and his mom didn't answer the phone and he had to call the daddy and then the daddy ended up calling the mama. Then the mama came and beat the ambulance there but the mama didn't it sound like she's like what you calling me for? But anyway, nevertheless it was a loss of life.
It was a loss of life and no one here on talk about it with Amora is happy that a life was lost. But we have to talk about or take into consideration what happened up until the life was lost. What we know so far is Austin put his hands on Cornelo not once but twice and also grabbed his book bag. We know that happened. Why? Well, for one, Hunter said it out of his mouth and other witnesses have said it as well. He was pushed. He was his book his property was taken. Okay.
And apparently um he was I don't know if he was punched but I know pushed and um his book bag was taken. All right. So we do know that. So with that being said you guys this is going to be an interesting trial as far as to see how it plays out in court with you know Texas is stand your ground. Um stand your ground is based on you legally allowed to be there. one and no duty to retreat. So, Camello Anthony was legally allowed to be there. He had no duty to retreat. However, it's going to come down to 12 jurors thinking or believing that it was necessary for Camello Anthony to reach into his bag and pull something out to defend himself. Did he fear for his life to the point where he had to take matters in his own hands and escalate it to that point? Okay, thank you so much for the Gold Met. I'll play the Gold Met song in just a few minutes.
Thank y'all so very much. I do appreciate y'all. So, with that being said, like you know, do I think it was premeditated murder? I do not. I do not believe that it was premeditated. I saw somebody put in the chat that it was premeditated because he he reached it.
Let me let me go back to her comment.
She said um let's go to it.
Um I already Okay. She said he is being charged with first degree because he told him if you touch me and see what happens. So if you touch me see what happens and that's what made it premeditated. I actually do not agree with that because just saying um if you touch me see what happens is not oh I I didn't plan to I'm plan on killing you today. I do not believe that is the case because you know you're talking about someone that's 17 years old. All right.
Um that said if you touch me see what happens. Do I believe that him saying if you touch me see if I'm going to uh do something to you? Yes. but premeditated saying that first degree is murder, right? Not um aggravated assault, not battery, not any of that. Not even attempted murder. First degree is murder. So first degree means that he intentionally murdered him. No, I do believe that he probably wanted to uh hurt him or or or back him up, scare him, or whatever you want to call it.
I'm going to say hurt because he did use a knife and he did stab him with it.
Okay. But I do not believe that it was premeditated. Premeditated means that he sat out and planned and knew that that strike to the chest was going to end his life. We are talking about a 17year-old young man. All right. Age does matter because y'all already know that they're not even fully developed until they're like 25 any damn way when it comes down to um boys. All right? So, I would not consider that premeditated, but that's just me. Um, that doesn't mean that the jurors will not think that. All right?
They, you know, they got to get 12 jurors and listen to the entire story.
But I am going to take that statement and ask chat GPT to analyze it. All right.
>> Comment has some validity, but it is too simplified and partly misleading.
In Texas, a murder charge is generally a first-degree felony by default when the allegation is that someone intentionally or knowingly caused another person's death. Texas Penal Code Patrick 19.02 says murder is a first-degree felony unless the sudden passion punishment issue applies, which can reduce punishment to a seconddegree felony after conviction. So, the statement he's being charged first degree because he told him, "If you touch me and see what happens," is not the full legal picture.
That alleged statement could matter because prosecutors may argue it shows warning, intent, or state of mind. In the arrest report, Officer Cortez wrote that Carmelo allegedly said out loud, "I was protecting myself." And according to the report, when asked if he had any weapons, Carmelo allegedly responded, "I'm not alleged. I did it. The report also says a witness described arguing before the stabbing. Alone does not automatically equal premeditation.
Premeditation usually means the person formed the intent before the act, but Texas murder law does not require a long planning period for a first-degree felony murder charge. The key issue is whether the state believes it can prove he intentionally or knowingly caused the death or intended serious bodily injury and committed an act clearly dangerous to human life that caused death.
>> Site turn 55747 circling it.
>> Okay. I don't know what it said. It said the comment has some validity but is not fully accurate. The alleged touch me and see what happened statement could be used by the prosecutor to argue that Camello's state of mind intent or warning before the stabbing. But he is not charged with firstdegree murder just because of that one statement. In Texas, murder is genuinely a first-degree felony when the state alleges the person intentionally or knowingly caused a death. So that statement may be one piece of the prosecution's argument, but is not the whole reason for the charge.
Okay. Now, I'm going to ask, what can the defense argue against that?
And we're going to go more into this on different days. We're only doing this short one. Oh, thank you so much, Barbara. What a blessing.
Thank you so much, darling. Dear, I appreciate you.
Let's go. We're going to go more into this, but for tonight, we're going to stop at this. We're going to just talk about now. What could the defense argue against that statement? If you touch me again, see what happens. Okay. All right. Here we go. Oh, well, let me just read it because Chad GPT is tripping today. All right. So, the defense could argue several things against the idea of if you touch me, see what happens. All right. So, it says the defense could argue several things against that.
And um first, they can argue that the statement was a warning, not a plan. In other words, the defense can say Camelo Anthony was just telling Austin, "Please don't put your damn hands on me again."
Okay? And that statement shows that he was trying to prevent physical contact, not plan to kill him. Okay. Second, they can argue that the statement has to be judged with the full context, not just in isolation. So if a witness say Austin stood up and pushed Carmelo to get him out of the out of the tent, the defense can say the physical content came after the warning and that Carmelo reacted because he believed the situation was beginning to escalate.
The arrest report officer Fischer section says the detailed witness account include Austin Medclav stood up and pushed Carmelo to get him out of the tent, which means that Austin physically put hands on Camello Anthony first.
Third, the defense can argue self-defense.
Texas law allows force when a person reasonably believe force is immediately necessary to protect against another person's unlawful force and deadly force has a higher standard. The person must reasonably believe deadly force is immediately necessary to protect against another's use of attempt attempted use of law unlawful deadly force or to prevent certain serious crimes. Fourth, the defense may argue state of mind under pressure.
They may say that this was a fastm moving escalating confrontation, not a calm, planned out act. A statement made during an argument. It may sound bad, but the defense can argue it does not prove that Carmelo Anthony already decided to stab Austin before anything physical took place. First, fifth, the defense can argue the statement is ambiguous.
Touch me and see what happened can mean many things.
It can mean move away from me. Stop touching me. Okay, I'm going to defend myself.
I'll tell someone or I'm going to react if you touch me. So the prosecution may say it sounds threatening, but defense may say it's not specific enough to prove intentional killing.
All right. So with that being said, the prosecution may try to use that statement to argue intent, but the defense can push back and say, "Hold on.
That statement is broad and general. By itself, it does not prove premeditation."
They can argue it was a warning, not a murder plan. They can also argue, you have to look at what happened next. A witness said Austin stood up and pushed Camello Anthony and also stated because they did not believe that Anthony had a weapon on him or in his bag. So the defense may say Carmelo warned him, "Please don't touch me.
Please do not touch me." Austin allegedly pushed him away and then Camelo Anthony react and what he believed was self-defense. Now whether the jury believed deadly force was reasonable is a whole different question, right? But one statement alone does not automatically prove premeditation intentional firstdegree murder. Okay. So now I'm going to add one more thing.
Let's add his brother Hunter stated to a reporter that Austin grabbed Corlo's backpack. I said, "Does that matter? If so, how?" All right. And we going to close it down after this one, you guys.
All right. So it say yes it does matter but how much it matters depend on whether Hunter reporter reporter statement is admissible consistent and supported by other evidence.
So it said it supports the defense handson contact argument. If Hunter told a reporter that Austin grabbed Camello's backpack, the defense could argue that this lines up with the broader theme that Austin made physical contact with Camello or his property before the stabbing took place. The arrest report already included another witness account stating that Austin stood up and pushed Camello to get him out of the tent. And public reporting on the affidavit says a witness reported Madcliffe grabbed Anthony to tell him to move. So now you got a pushing out of the tent and grabbed him to tell him to move and now grabbing his backpack. So it could help explain why Camello may have felt cornered or threatened. The defense could argue this was not just words anymore. Austin pushed him. And according to Hunter's report to the uh uh statement that he gave to the reporter that Austin grabbed Carmelo's backpack. So since the knife was allegedly in or around Carmelo's bag, the defense may say that Austin grabbing the backpack escalated the situation because Carmelo knew that he had a knife inside the backpack. Okay. So, he believes someone was trying to control his movement, take his property, or interfere with what was inside the bag. And see, I didn't even think about that. God diggity dog. I didn't even think that he um Carmelo could have been afraid of Austin getting a hold to his property because he knew what was in the backpack. Anyway, let's continue. It could help explain why Camelo may have felt cornered or threatened. Okay.
But it does not automatically prove self-defense. This is where the prosecutor pushes back. Grabbing a backpack or pushing someone may show physical contact, but the jury still have to decide whether using deadly force was reasonable under the circumstances as a whole. The prosecutor can argue that a push or backpack grab did not equal deadly threats. All right.
It may matter for credibility and consistency. If Hunter did not give a detailed statement in the arrest report, but later told a reporter also grabbed the backpack, the defense may use that to say even Austin brother acknowledged some physical action by Austin. But the prosecutor may say Hunter was emotional, grieving, or that the media interview is not the same as a sworn police statement. It can matter if Hunter testifies. All right. If Hunter takes the stand and says, "Austin, grab the backpack." That becomes much more important because both sides can question him under the oath. The defense could use this in support of their version of self-defense. The prosecutor could cross-examine him about exactly what he saw where he was excuse me could cross-examine him about exactly what he saw where he was standing where he saw the knife and whether grabbing the backpack mean grabbing the backpack itself. Camelo while wearing the backpack or grab him to move him. Okay. So, basically he's saying when he grabbed the backpack, did he just grab the backpack alone or did he grab it while Carmelo Anthony was wearing it, which in which that would move Carmelo Anthony as well. So, it's not just grabbing the backpack, it's grabbing the backpack and yanking it caused Carmelo Anthony to move as well.
All right. So now it says if Hunter told a report that Austin grabbed Camello's backpack, yes, it does matter, but we have to be careful with how we frame that because it does not automatically prove self-defense. And we know that, right? It does not automatically justify deadly force. We know that as well. But it does support the defense argument that this is not just a verbal disagreement. It gives them another piece to argue that Austin made physical contact with Camello and his property before the stabbing even took place. The prosecutor will likely argue that even if that was the case, even if Austin did push Camello, even if he put hands on him or even took his property, that still does not meet the deadly force and does not say that it was reasonable. So the real issue for the jury is not just whether Austin touched him. It's whether Camello reasonably believed that he needed to use deadly force in that amount. I said, "Does this change anything?" Now I just asked if it was two on one 225 lb guys versus 160.
Does this change anything? Okay, let's find out.
Yes, that could change the way the defense framed the case, but it still does not automatically make the stabbing legally justified. Here's why this matters. Okay, 220 two 225 lb guys versus 160 lb fella. If the defense can show that Hunter initiated the conversation, Hunter said out his own damn mouth that he did, right? Austin stepped in. Both brothers were allegedly much bigger than Camello and then Austin allegedly pushed him or grabbed his backpack. The defense can argue this was not simply Camello Anthony starting trouble with the brothers. They can frame it as Camello being confronted by two large individuals with the situation escalating from words to physical contact. That could help the defense argue reasonable fear. Under the Texas self-defense law, the question is whether Camello Anthony reasonably believed force was immediately necessary to protect himself. For deadly force, the standard is higher. He would have to reason reasonably believe deadly force was immediate necessary to protect himself from unlawful deadly force, serious bodily injury, or certain violent crimes. So the defense could say this was a 17-year-old who weighed around 160 lbs being confronted by two brothers who were allegedly around 200 to 225 each. One brother initiated the conversation, the other stepped in. The arguments escalated and witnesses said Austin pushed him or made physical contact. That size difference, the number of people involved, and the physical contact all matters when deciding whether or not Camello Anthony reasonably I can't say that word to save my life. Reasonably believe uh that well, excuse me, reasonably felt threatened. But the prosecutor could come back and argue. Even if there was arguments, even if Austin pushed him, and even if the two brothers were significant in size, that does not automatically justify taking out a knife. Okay. A push or backpack grab is not automatically deadly force. The strongest defense value is not that it proves self-defense by itself. It helps them argue context. Carmelo may have felt outnumbered, physically overmatched, and unable to safely get out of the situation. The jury would have to decide whether that fear was reasonable and whether the level of force used matched the threat. All right. So now, if it is true and can be proven that Hunter initiated the conversation, which Hunter said that out of his own mouth, Austin stepped in. Hunter said that out of his own mouth both brothers was significantly bigger than Carmelo.
Well, the police report states that, you know, about the size. And then Austin allegedly pushed him or grabbed his backpack. Hunter said that out of his own mouth. And another witness stated that out of their own mouth. Then yes, it matters. It gives the defense more context to argue. Camelo may have felt outnumbered or physically threatened, but it does not automatically justify deadly force. The legal question is not just did Austin touch him. The legal question is did Camelo reasonably believe deadly force was immediately necessary in that moment. That is where the jury is going to have to weigh the size difference, the number of people involved, and who initiated the confrontation, what physical contact happened in in what order, and whether Camello had a reasonable fear of serious harm. Like I said before, ladies and gentlemen, I do believe that um this will not be found first degree, okay? You can't just look at it from the surface. you have to break down everything that happened up until that point. So, I do not believe it will be first degree. I cannot say it won't be um what's the other one? Um Texas has um Oh, why it just slipped my mind. You got first degree, second degree. I don't even think we actually have second degree. Hold on. Okay, it says yes, if the jury does not find him guilty of a murder as a charge, they could still find him guilty of a lesser included offense if the judge include those options in the jury charge. In the state of Texas, the main lesser possibility in a murder case are usually manslaughter.
If the jury believes he caused a death but did so recklessly instead of intentionally or knowingly in Texas, manslaughter is a secondderee felony.
Also, manslaughter. Okay, so Texas secondderee is manslaughter or manslaughter is a secondderee felony.
Okay. Punishable by 2 to 20 years and up to 10,000 fine. $10,000 fine. Criminally negligent homicide. If the jury believed he caused a death by criminal negligence, meaning that he should have recognized a substantial risk but failed to in Texas, this is a state fail felony, punishable to 180 days to two years in state and up to 10,000 fine.
There is also something people call sudden passion. That is not exactly a separate lesser charge. It is a punishment phase issue. If someone is convicted of murder, but the jury later finds the person act under sudden passion arising from adequate cause, the punishment range can drop the firstderee felony range to seconddegree felony range. Texas Penal Code 1902 covers that. So, wait a minute. What is sudden passion? All right. So, the sudden passion, it does not mean that he's not guilty. It means that um it he's still convicted of murder, but the punishment can be reduced from firstdegree range to the second degree range. From sudden passion murder, the punishment range would be 2 to 20. Okay, so it just goes from first degree to second or to manslaughter is what they call it here in Texas, plus 10,000 in fine. Um but it says if the defendant proves sudden passion by preponderance of evidence during the punishment, the offense is punished as a secondderee felony. and Texas penal code 1233 set secondderee felony punishment to 2 to 20 years. All right. The important part is this.
Sudden passion is usually decided after a murder conviction. Oh, okay. During the punishment phase. Okay. So, after the murder conviction, but during the sentencing is when they decide whether it was a sudden passion or not. All right. The defense has to prove it by a prepoundonderance of evidence. Meaning more likely than not. It's not the same as self-defense. Self-defense can lead to a not-uilty verdict. A sudden passion only lowers the punishment range if the person has already been found guilty of the murder. So that's only if he's found guilty of firstdegree that the defense could order, excuse me, argue a sudden passion. All right. So as far as sentencing, the judge does not just randomly pick a number. In Texas, punishment can be accessed by the judge or the jury depending on the election made in the case. Texas Code of Criminal Procedures Article 37.07 allows punishment to be assessed after a guilty verdict and defendant can elect jury punishment at the proper time.
Whomever assessed punishment, jury or the judge. So they will give the defense if they if he's found guilty, they will give him an option. Do you want the judge to set your sentences or sentence or do you want the jury to set your sentence? I didn't even know that actually. That's some good information to know. Okay. So, it said it would look at things like the facts of the offense, the defendant's age, criminal history, or lack of one, the remorse that he had, the victim impact, evidence, character witnesses, aggravating facts, mitigating facts, and anything admitted during the punishment phase. Okay. So, if the jury finds Camello Anthony guilty of murder, but also finds sudden passion, then that does not mean he walks free. It means the punishment range dropped. Instead of facing first-degree murder range, suddenly Passion would bring it down to seconddegree, which is 2 to 20 in the state of Texas along with a $10,000 fine. The judge or the jury would decide the actual numbers of years within that range based on the evidence presented presented during punishment, including aggravating and mitigating factors.
Okay, but we're not even there yet, y'all. We're not even there yet. Okay.
So, let me read some of your your um comments. Remember Amore? That's what the guy in Oklahoma got for messing with those girls.
Bring back bring back bring that to my memory. I'm kind of lost a little bit.
Damn, I didn't get this notification and I missed a lot. Damn. You can go back and listen to the replay, baby. Hail more in chat. I've been listening while cooking. Great live. Thank you so much, Focos. So, I appreciate you. So sad.
Camelo got to go through this for being bullied. I'mma I'm I'm going to say this. I actually think that anybody that have to go through a case and have to um fight for their life claiming self-defense. I my heart goes out to any of them true, you know, that have some type of validity to it. Meaning that if they were touched first, if they were threatened or touched first and then they have to fight for their life, my heart goes out to them. It really does because I do believe in keeping your damn hands to yourself. Stop thinking that people are going to allow you to put hands on them and get away with it.
I just do not like that. I don't like when people think that they're bigger than the program and they can intimidate or scare you and that's how a lot of them end up in the ground, right? And then you have their family members saying how sweet and kind and precious they were. They wasn't sweet and kind and precious that day. That day. Okay. And sometime these things catches up with people and unfortunately it seems that this is what happened. Oh, thank you so much big sis. Thank you for that love. I ain't even see you come through. Say, "Hey morman and chat sisters, thank you so much for that love. I do appreciate that you guys.
Please thumbs up these um super chats that came in for the support of this live stream." Again, you guys, I will be going live every day. I don't care if I only have two people in here, okay? I will be covering the Camello Anthony case from beginning to the end. All right.
Now, I want to see this young man found not guilty. I do. I want to see him found not guilty. I cannot sit here and say that I do believe that he will be found not guilty. Not yet. I have to hear more. But for right now, I do say I do not believe that he will be found guilty for firstdegree. Okay? I do not believe that he'll be found guilty for firstdegree, but I cannot say that he will be found not guilty all the way around. However, I I hope he's found not guilty all the way around cuz again, I do not like people that put their hands on people and think that they supposed to just get some type of street credits or just come back to the internet and mock and poke fun after they done put their hands on somebody and think that one day they ain't going to end up in a box.
Okay. So, anyway, with that said, you guys listen y'all thumbs up this video, share this video. I will be giving this report every day. Um, again, on my other channel, uh, Real Life with Amora, I will be going live in general on that channel, which I probably will, it's only 6:41, so I will be going live on that channel after this. I don't know what time, maybe around 9 or 10:00.
Okay? But for right now, I will be giving a report on this topic every single day until it's done. And the judge said that he is trying to have this case wrapped up by the 12th of June. So just 10 days, you guys. 10 days y'all going to be hearing about me and Camello Anthony on this channel. Okay.
She said, "Read my members milestone message." Okay. I did see that message.
Give me a second.
All right. Rita says, "Keep going, Amora. We know that people like drama, but you have a powerful voice. Once this trial gets going, more will come to hear. Nearly three years Oh, nearly three years strong. Thank you so much.
And thank you for 33 lovely months. I do appreciate you so very much. Thank you, Rita. And then Rita Harris came and said, "God bless you more. We love you." Thank you, Rita Harris. And thank you, Rita M. I appreciate y'all so very much. So, right now, my plan is to go out there Mon, excuse me, Monday. Uh, Thursday. Okay, that's supposed to be opening statement.
My plan is to be there Thursday. If I am, I am going to need you guys to support me being on ground at the courthouse. All right. So, when I come live, let's turn up. Let's turn up the volume. All right. So, I will be there on ground on Thursday for the opening statements. Now, I won't be able to stay for the entire 10 days because y'all know we already have our family reunion and Jay ain't even playing that child.
Oh my goodness, he is not playing that.
So, nevertheless, I will be there for at least a couple of days and if it spills over after the family reunion, I will go back. But for right now, I will be there on Thursday. Okay. Real content. Some people don't know how they just want to drag people every day. Yes. And y'all know I've been I've been looking forward to this case so that I can get out of that. All right. Let them drag in peace, baby. Let them drag in peace. All right.
She said, "I was listening the whole time that I had my daughter's doctor's appointment." Okay, cool, cool, cool.
Same for me more. I'll be one of the two tuned in. Thank you so much. And like I said, I don't care if it's just two people. I promise you this is actually helping me because this makes me cuz I'm going to go listen to other content creators that's actually covering this case as well or whatever more experienced than me and pick up on some um tips and things that they are covering that I need to bring back to you guys as well. Okay, I'm drowning out all that other noise. I really don't give a care at this point. I promise you it's just all noise to me. So, Camello Anthony and this is how it's going to be when the other case starts as well. the Rama or the Holly Johnson case as well.
Okay, if there is a case cuz I got a little update on that as well. All right, she said I would definitely be one of the two.
Thank you so much. I mean, I have 164 people in here and I'm sure people will catch the replay. But listen, this if you want to be here, you will be here.
If you don't want to be here, then you you won't be here. But I am interested in finding out what's going to happen in this case. We always talk about Texas and Florida is a stand your ground um state and we always talk about what is allowed and what's not allowed in these states. I just so happen to live here in Texas even though it's not you know it's a 4 and 1/2 hour drive away and I will be taking that 4 and 1/2 hour drive come Thursday.
Um actually I think I may leave well I don't know come Thursday let's just say Thursday I will be taking this drive. So that's how interested I am in trying to get you guys the most accurate information. Okay. So this will be my first trial that I would even attend.
Even if it's a day or two, this is my first one. But it will not be my last.
Okay. Now, of course, if it was closer or if I live there, I would be there for the whole entire thing. But unfortunately, I cannot do that on this one. But baby, I'm going to get y'all the information. Okay? I will get y'all the information. So, thank y'all. I heard that y'all met my goal. I do appreciate it. Today is $2 Tuesday and y'all came in and y'all showed out. So, I do appreciate it. Let's play our uh Gold Met song. Let's runn her up. Run her up right now. I do appreciate y'all so very much.
>> Screen now. RUN IT UP. RUN IT UP RIGHT NOW. GO.
GO. YEAH, it's up now. Big super check.
Get up. Cash down. SCREAM. SAY GO.
THAT'S FACTS NOW. Run it up. RUN IT UP RIGHT NOW.
GO. HIT. Get up. Now make super go. That's right. Now run it up. Run it up right now. Go. Let go.
Yeah, it's up now. Big super go. That's right now. Run it up. Run it up right now. Go.
Yeah, it's up now. Big super track. Hit up now. Say go. That's now. Run it up.
Run it up right now.
Get up now. Super chance. Get up now. Go now. It up it up right now.
Thank y'all so very much. I do appreciate it. Y'all hit that thumbs up button on your way out. Again, it is still early. It's not even 7 o'clock yet. So, I'm going to come back on my uh real life with Amora. You guys probably I'm probably going to take about an hour break or so. um give those that need to catch up on this live a chance to do so.
And I'm going to come back and just have some, you know, just going to, you know, film my life a little bit on that channel over there. Thank you for 23 months. Um Rita Harris, appreciate you so very much. All right, you guys. Thank y'all. Hit that thumbs up button and I'm going to talk to y'all tomorrow again about Carmelo Anthony. But we're just going to shoot the [ __ ] about whatever on my Real Life with Amora channel later, you guys. All right. I love y'all. Thank y'all so very much. Bye now.
>> Cuz they can't make a dollar without mentioning down one of our names.
>> She kept talking about that family over there.
>> She kept talking about that family.
Yeah.
>> She kept talking about that family.
>> Talking about family.
>> She kept talking about that family. She kept talking about that family. That family. She kept talking about that family. Talking about family.
>> These girls regret talking about it.
>> Cuz they can't make a dollar without one of our days.
Talking about talking about it. talking about family.
Family talking about it.
Child, we f to talk about this with tomorrow.
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