📱The Specialist (1994) Sylvester Stallone | 90's Action Movie Review

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[00:00:03]Good evening. You are listening live to the Extreme Movie Show. I am your host Rob, broadcasting to you from the Pinellas Palaces west of Orlando, Florida. I am in the Extreme Studios.

[00:00:12]And on the line with me tonight from the great Midwest is none other than himself, the man, the myth, the legend, RDB. Tonight we are continuing our Miami-centric themed movies as we're doing our Miami Nights stream [snorts] where we're doing Miami Vice season 1. And you know, RDB, we've been having a lot of fun talking about that show from the '80s. And one of the things that we we do on the Extreme Movie Show is we talk about how like there's some certain cultural themes, especially if you've lived the time and all that. And it's amazing because I have not watched this movie since it's been in the theaters for like about 40, 42 years now, 30, 32, whatever the number is, generation ago. And in 1994 in the fall when it came out, we had already had Speed with Keanu Reeves who made him really, really big. And this is more of a cat mouse kind of game where I'd forgotten how good the cast is in this movie, but how kind of a quiet, almost voyeuristic sort of movie it is, which I kind of like and thought Stallone did a good job in it. There's some interesting things about The Specialist to get into and talk about.

[00:01:08]But I will tell you that for those of you that are young and haven't seen this or did not live through the '90s, I cannot tell you that when you hear like Jon Secada's mental picture at the beginning, he had already blown up. He was a background singer for Gloria Estefan who plays Turn the Beat Around, which is a remake or redone. And the whole Gloria Estefan thing, that sound was big. And I kid with some people online about my Orlando Magic basketball team because I remember them through their infancy. And they have a Miami kind of sound to it that sounds a lot like this soundtrack.

[00:01:39]John Barry, by the way, means nothing to you, RDB, but he scored several James Bond films. He does the score, and I actually like it.

[00:01:46]But this is actually more dialed back. I think that it feels like a very '90s kind of film.

[00:01:50]>> When I was scheduling this, I was looking up the the director. The director I was looking at was Luis Llosa. Uh you know what he's famous for?

[00:01:57]Nope.

[00:01:58]Sniper with Tom Berenger. Nice. And he also Anaconda.

[00:02:04]Are you serious? Yeah, same director.

[00:02:06]Hey, that's a triple threat right there.

[00:02:08]Three good movies.

[00:02:09]>> [laughter] >> He also did Crime Zone 89 or 88.

[00:02:14]That's a it's a Peruvian science fiction stuff cuz he's a he's from Peru.

[00:02:19]Uh Hour of the Assassin with Robert Vaughn and Erik Estrada.

[00:02:23]Robert Vaughn, God he's good.

[00:02:26]>> [laughter] >> Yeah.

[00:02:27]Man, he was good in that.

[00:02:29]Well, here's the thing with The Specialist. When you're a specialist, like I've said before, one of the themes in the '90s is Miami's blown up now thanks to Miami Vice. It's the hot happening place. Stallone literally had moved down there. He still has a place there. Madonna as well. So, it was hot.

[00:02:42]It was like the next big thing to people that did not know what Miami was. And it's a different Miami than it was back in the '80s and '70s. So, what I like about '90s movies, RDB, and I think of you because you're the '90s guy and I'm the '80s guy, is that especially in the early to mid and maybe even late '90s a little bit with action films, they were less about martial arts and more about a really really big opening kind of gambit ala James Bond.

[00:03:06]>> Higher techniques. Exactly.

[00:03:09]>> Drama. Thrillers. Trying to use a little CGI if you can, which is difficult at time. But I forgotten and once I started watching it, I was in for a treat because we see that Stallone's 10 years earlier.

[00:03:21]He's on a mission and he's on a mission not for God, but he's there with uh Sorry. I'm trying to keep a straight face while saying it.

[00:03:30]But he's there with James Woods. And ladies and gentlemen, James Woods is God tier, S tier, sigma tier, whatever you want to call it, dick. This guy is fantastic. He's very macho, in your face, crazy. I love him. He's he's got that level to him that very few people have as an actor. He's tremendous. So, he's actually Stallone's superior. And what it is is they're they're in Columbia or whatever it is. They're going to take out some random drug drug lord and they go to as if Stallone's setting the bombs on the bridge. And so a Jeep's coming around. But of course we have to have put some humanity into it because uh Stallone's through through through the binox, which is the the effect I always love and still pop to these days. He goes, "Oh, we we got a kid." So there's a little girl in there.

[00:04:11]And it's like, "Sorry, Stallone for the ride." You can't do that. And he runs off to it. It's like a preview like it's like a banker of those things, right?

[00:04:18]>> So remember last week how we talked about assassins, how they changed the uh uh the uh Roger Donner Donner, wanted to change it make it more humane.

[00:04:28]>> Stallone. Mhm. They did the same thing in that too. Yep.

[00:04:31]>> Um according to uh Cyril Stallone was interested in doing uh doing this in a a lonely existential character existential character. But Cyril said that Stallone was interested in doing doing that but he's like but he's like at the last minute he reverted to the action character and Stallone's character was made more of a victim rather than a free agent just like uh like in Identity. Yep. Now, I if you're a guy especially goes around and blowing up people killing them people, don't make him sympathetic.

[00:04:58]You're a killer.

[00:05:00]I'm sorry.

[00:05:01]You know, you you can argue that in a lot of different aspects but the bottom line is just almost all the other people in here are worse so it's kind of that relative way.

[00:05:10]>> Who do you Who do you cheer for?

[00:05:13]Well, right. And with Stallone we're going to cheer for him. You have to.

[00:05:15]Um I picked this still out because this is such a simple effect but it's done really well. This is where the you know, after the explosion or like that they start beating the [ __ ] out of each other. And uh this is of course them having uh a split literally which is means it's going to be a wrench thing. And there's more like there's there's a lot more layers to this. But look at the blood on his face because while he's talking to him it's literally dripping off his nose and all that. And I thought this is a simple effect that you don't see anymore. You're outside in the sun. You're doing your fights or whatever like that. You know, obviously they're choreographed and all that, but it's Stallone has a great intensity, but so does James Woods. He's just even better than Stallone when it comes to intensity.

[00:05:53]>> Well, here's the thing about James Woods.

[00:05:56]Um yeah, I agree. He does come off of He plays He's going to play in the bad guy or at least the dickish kind of character. I like him in Vampires.

[00:06:04]Exactly.

[00:06:05]>> Yeah, John Carpenter's Vampires. The guy they believe in there, he is he is pretty cool. He He is James Woods is to me is as cool as Lance Henriksen.

[00:06:13]Yeah. Yeah. They're the exact same They're the exact same character actors.

[00:06:16]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. So, it's like I James but I would bring more of James Woods as being the bad guy would have been fantastic, you know.

[00:06:25]Um but uh He is but here's the thing with the bad guys. It's not like to me Here's the thing with the film. You could argue that it's almost almost an erotic thriller, but not really cuz there's a lot of voyeuristic stuff in here.

[00:06:39]Because honestly there are some explosions, but this is more about tension leading up to the explosions. There's not a guy lot of gun fights. And that's the whole thing to this movie that makes it a bit different. And you know, there's not one specific bad guy, even though technically Rod Steiger's the mafia king. It's really about him being hired through classified ads or just in what they're called bulletin boards, which are online. And it killed me when I saw 14.4 kilobytes. That's the dial-up modem speed back in the day. Just want to clarify that he said Rod Steiger, not Rob Schneider. Correct. Rod Steiger.

[00:07:14]>> [laughter] >> Rod Steiger's great. He's the one that's like, "You come in my house. You tell me this. I make the decision. Do you understand?" He's fantastic. So, right after after introduction and all that, we get this beautiful at night sea breeze kind of situation. This is just right out of Miami Vice, where we see the setup of the characters. We're introduced to the other ones that are going to be pertinent to the story, which is typical storytelling here. And it's just miscellaneous drug dealing talk with getting ready to open a bank.

[00:07:37]Eric Roberts for everybody that sees him in like Hallmark movies now playing a shell of his former self who's done like literally probably 200 films plus but he plays a great [ __ ] creep. It's fantastic and what happens is here Sharon Stone comes >> Pretty boy smug. Yeah. He but he's but he's really good at it. And we know these kind of bad guys that you know they're not quite douchebag dude bros but they're so full of themselves. So what happens is we see Sharon Stone walk in and she plays kind of like the scared looking blonde and she looks absolutely phenomenal in this film too. She really did great job making her look very uh sexy but not negatively sexy.

[00:08:15]>> like figure the the the black dress little black dress that hugs her figure.

[00:08:20]Oh we're going to get to that cuz this one's the white linen one and so he what she's really doing is you know that 10 years earlier roughly time period when she was a little girl she got stuck in a closet because people broke into her father's house and Eric Roberts had her parents whacked. And so she remembers that. So what she's doing she's trying to seduce him to get revenge but what's happening is that she's having this back and forth with Stallone about you know trying to hire him to blow them up. And so they haven't met they have you know he's watching her he's taking pictures he's doing that Stallone. So it's a lot of voice over stuff so it's like an old school kind of detective thing here in a way which is kind of interesting way.

[00:08:59]You would think Stallone is going to be in your face it's Miami and this is a little bit more subdued to that. I mean it's it's a it's a great way to meet the characters and we know each one of them is but there's a lot of these bad guys that Stallone goes through till he gets to the final one.

[00:09:13]I'm just grabbing it real quickly so they can see the photo of her in the dress.

[00:09:17]But uh yeah I said Stallone and uh not Stallone but um Sharon Stoney here is just fantastic here. Um for those of you who are fans of Sharon Stone and uh or if you've never seen Sharon Stone you're missing out on like the babe of the week man.

[00:09:35]She's just freaking bad.

[00:09:36]>> She'd already been in Total recall at that point and some other things.

[00:09:39]>> Yes, yes. But I said like I said I like her outfits in this space here.

[00:09:43]Her dress and stuff. Well, pull up another slide and I'll I'll I'll move us forward through it. Well, here's the yeah.

[00:09:49]>> this is a little bit later on um after they've had relations and he thinks Stallone does that she's innocent and not going to turn him in because that is a major theme is is what's really happening is she's trying to get these guys killed but we find out halfway through the the film before Stallone does that she's actually working with James Woods to draw Stallone out as a part of a deal to get closer to Eric Roberts and Rod Steiger so she can kill them. That way James Woods can take over the business and actually take over Rod Steiger. They just don't lean into it too much cuz he just plays like head of security but yeah, she just she this is peak Sharon Stone to me this film honestly. I know a lot of people like to say the one where she crosses her legs and all that and decent whatever that was with Michael Basic Basic Basic Instinct. Basic Instinct, right? Okay, that I get it but this one's just better to me and and to go from fight frightening little doe that allows herself to be picked up by a cocaine guy and allows him to have sex with her so she can get closer to kill him. She does a great job in here of of having a lot of different you know, ranges with her emotions. I got to ask you.

[00:11:02]Sharon Stone or Heather Locklear?

[00:11:04]Oh, Sharon Stone.

[00:11:06]Definitely. Yeah.

[00:11:08]When we take the peak, yeah, absolutely.

[00:11:09]>> Heather Thomas or Sharon Stone?

[00:11:12]Might be Heather Thomas.

[00:11:14]>> [laughter] >> Yeah. But uh yeah, so I the reason I like this photo too I I found this out to be is the fact that it's this is still in Miami nightlife, you know?

[00:11:25]90s and kind of stuff you'd see back in the 80s back in Miami Vice.

[00:11:31]Very so early '90s still very much like the '80s.

[00:11:36]Um what's great about this movie is the fact that even though it's after the renovations they did they were doing back in the projects or at least the the slum parts of of Miami.

[00:11:44]Uh you still get it's still in that kind of like the era the culture we still have a lot of this cool stuff like this.

[00:11:51]Yeah, that hasn't gone away yet. It hasn't gone away yet though. So, um another slide I got here is Stallone working on a bomb.

[00:11:59]Well, he starts wearing t-shirts and you do that as a male when you get in your 40s and 50s. So, I like him with the nerdy look here because it's kind of what he gives us but here he is he's working on a bomb that we would see. So, he's got the soldering iron there on the right side of your screen there. He's got something here. And what's what's cool is is he you see him in a bar wearing like a a Miami floral print in the jacket or whatever and he's basically falling around taking pictures. So, he's not really talking a lot. But what happens is that the muscle guy that works for Eric Roberts uh he's in a They're they're they're running a whorehouse out of a out of in the backside of a of a bar and so he puts it on the door so when the guy opens it splat and this is when James Woods gets re-introduced as Rod Steiger's uh head of security who hates Eric Roberts they don't get along. And he's like, "This is a great charge. This is a done by a specialist because it only went here didn't go out to the sides and all that and it blew itself up very clever." And it doesn't really occur to him yet. Now, it looks like he's working actually by no or if he even trained the person Stallone who did >> [cough and clears throat] >> And it looks like he's working on a pager bomb. That's what it looks like or I guess it's a bomb.

[00:12:58]>> Statistics to the door. Yeah, that's it.

[00:13:00]It is very small. Yeah.

[00:13:02]Got to miss the soldering spool there with the tin there.

[00:13:05]Uh that's probably what a 61% uh one there I'm looking at you know going old >> he's in the warehouse. He's got the chain-link fence behind him. He's got the camera behind him with a zoom lens and a left. And then he has the stairs to go upstairs.

[00:13:17]>> cat that picked that that just decides he wants to be around him. I don't know why they put Stallone with the cat makes no sense. Because they want us off of him and make him like a victim. He's a guy Every victim has a cat.

[00:13:27]>> [laughter] >> Okay.

[00:13:29]Next slide, please.

[00:13:31]Why did you pick this one? Because uh for Mother's Day, we missed our chance.

[00:13:37]>> [laughter] >> Mother's Day movies, it's hot. Check it out, ladies and gentlemen. Sharon Stone is phenomenal in this movie. I'm just going to say, if you're a guy and you just say you're coming into your teens, um and uh uh you might want to watch this movie.

[00:13:52]It's coming of age, right?

[00:13:54]Of course.

[00:13:55]You chose this one.

[00:13:57]So, this is where they're talking or whatever about meeting and she's basically like trying to entice them out and push further in and all that. So, he's doing like this >> [snorts] >> It looks like coddling cuz it's not yoga, cuz I know yoga.

[00:14:11]>> He shirtless and he out and uh And he's doing his things while he's listening on his uh his earpiece or like that. And she's kind of like doing something similar and these uh body outfits, I thought, "Oh, I've forgotten how Sharon Stone really Yeah. looks sexy." They really highlight her curves. So, you know, her lips, they could close up her face. You get a shot from the back, you get the ass and all stuff. They're like they did not hold back on this. They would have like We're in the '90s, we're doing erotic thrillers. Let's do this.

[00:14:38]You know. I think it already come out at this point through us. Yeah, check out the review on that. Now, look at look at her legs on the outside. I'm being serious. See how her legs are dark, but you have the white board and you could see the bits of her her hair >> and all that, too, with the lighting.

[00:14:52]Cuz If you If you If you were to have a nude scene today in a movie, you wouldn't see the body. You would You would see You would see it, but it would not be intimate and close-up looking like this. No.

[00:15:02]At all.

[00:15:02]No. Where you can actually appreciate >> to be a dude.

[00:15:05]And also, too, everything is color washed out these days. So, it's like you won't see any wrinkles, you won't see any pores. It doesn't matter what age thing. It's This This just makes a woman look better. I I also love the fact that back in the '90s, everyone had a studio apartment that was in the little It was like a abandoned factory lived in. Of course. I love that. You know, in the '80s and '90s it's like that's what we had. You know, we have a sliding door and stuff. You know, that's that's what they did. They did a loft. Uh So, it was like and then they have Yeah, I I loved seeing studio apartments back in the day.

[00:15:36]So.

[00:15:37]You know, cuz that's usually where they Every erotic thriller, the guy has a giant nice uh penthouse thing where his uh bed's upstairs up the stairs and then it's lofted over and you can see the overhang. You can see the bed up there, the railing stuff. Yep. And he has his kitchen and stuff. As I love I just love that kind of setup.

[00:15:53]Um So, what's happening is after we find out that she's, you know, feeling pressed by James Woods to lure him out. So, you know, maybe she's being used herself here and can't let uh Stallone know that. James Woods had already introduced himself to the team because Rod Steiger goes to the police chief says he's going to take the lead, gives him some money.

[00:16:15]So, he shows everybody basically how to make a bomb and defuses it a couple seconds. Cuz everybody else can't do it.

[00:16:21]And he is so [ __ ] good as an actor. I know he's older now and people don't know who he is and he doesn't do much anymore. But he's just so tremendous in a role like this. It's It's I forget how good he is.

[00:16:33]Much how we like Treat Williams in kind of like an affable, likable sort of way or like you mentioned uh the original sniper with Tom Berenger in a quiet sort of way, James Woods is the opposite. He's so good but in a very intense, threatening kind of way where he you don't want to [ __ ] with him. And here's the thing about James Woods in real life, and I'm dead serious, dude is smart as a tack. Smarter than everybody he's ever worked with. He's that smart.

[00:16:56]>> his Twitter. It's actually him. It's not someone running his account for him.

[00:17:00]It's actually him. And so it's like he uh he's outspoken and he's smart and it's actually he is I just love that. He can bring He brings that to his characters and he's and he's like that in real life, too.

[00:17:11]So.

[00:17:11]>> So, we'll know I want to point out though for anyone who was born after 2000, that's a that's a that's not what You're probably wondering what it is. That's a computer.

[00:17:21]It's It's not a flat monitor like you're born with in your little palm pilot or the guys had. That would be IDE interfaces different in the lower left there where you used to connect cables.

[00:17:29]That was such a [ __ ] thing.

[00:17:30]>> Yeah, I was just saying I was just saying the monitor's probably got IBM.

[00:17:34]Well, it depends who they got the contract with. I can't That This is a low scan 720 something. I don't know who that is.

[00:17:40]Well, here's the thing.

[00:17:42]One thing that reminded me how great he is besides his intensity is that there's this this scene here. What they're trying to do is keep him on a phone for like a certain amount of time so they can trace him >> Trace Trace him, yeah.

[00:17:52]>> using old payphones to make calls. And so when he reveals himself and he starts ripping them in front of everybody everybody's listening because he's on speaker there about Yeah, you get off you know, killing people makes you you know, like you're jerking off and all this kind of stuff. It's the only time when he really gets upset and speaks a lot in the movie.

[00:18:08]He [ __ ] loses it and you see him literally yelling basically at the monitor and you forget that they're not face-to-face like a man.

[00:18:17]>> Yeah. If you're an actor and you got everybody around you and you have to make like you're arguing with that intensity in front of a a thing where nobody's there, that's not easy to do.

[00:18:27]No, I I and plus I love the fact he He plays the type of roles cuz these people exist and these people are like they want to control their results and they're mad because it's things are not going their way, you know? And they have that and then they finally have to do their own work and it's like they're just they're they're incompetent at their job.

[00:18:43]And so yeah, I I I like his performance in this.

[00:18:46]Um like I said, I I just love the fact that this is actually you brought up they're they're tracing his call at payphones. I got to get you to watch The Wire, bro. I just finished the season first season and they're using payphones and pagers, man.

[00:19:00]>> [laughter] >> And it's And this I I'd love it, you know? And they got the flip phones where they have It's 2002.

[00:19:07]So I >> [laughter] >> I just love it, man.

[00:19:10]Um but yeah, I said I I like big monitors like this. Those things are Those are a beast. You know, and then the old the old school office chairs from the '80s. You see them in Die Hard, the ones he threw out the window.

[00:19:21]>> [laughter] >> Well, actually too, if you look at the keyboard there next to the person's glasses, that was cutting edge at the time to have that joystick >> Yes.

[00:19:31]>> [laughter] >> Yes. Next slide. All right. Um, all right. I chose this because there I just love the the convertible get the bridge there.

[00:19:41]I'm not sure where the bridge is in in Miami, Florida is.

[00:19:45]But anyway, it reminds me of reminds me of the bridge. There's a main one that goes across that you see where there's a wharf, that's where we see in Miami Vice.

[00:19:53]And there's that's also goes over to Well, it No, it goes it goes off and it curves around into Key Biscayne where there's a tennis center and a big natural park and all that, too. And around there's like Star Island, Hibiscus, and all those kinds of ones that you see like in in a Transporter and everything. All that is right around this area.

[00:20:12]>> She's also got the flip phone.

[00:20:14]Cell phone.

[00:20:15]Cell phone.

[00:20:15]>> And he's got he's got the ear bud that connects into the phone jack.

[00:20:18]What?

[00:20:19]>> at the very end where they're getting ready to trace where he's at so she can basically turn him in and she's trying to tell him, "Remember Remember what we said together in the hotel? Remember the last thing I said to you?"

[00:20:29]>> Yeah. And and he she'd written down on a little post-it note, you know, "I'm a woman you can't trust." So, basically whatever he she was telling him was "Don't believe it." So, that means she's under the influence of him at this point.

[00:20:41]>> This is fair. This is fair, yeah. This is so low on the trash.

[00:20:44]>> This is not This is such a great classic But I love I love the fact that I said I said I'll learn from helping this. Man, they just they not hold back whatsoever.

[00:20:52]Uh, they knew that she's a leading lady, that she's got sex appeal. Back in the '90s, you know what? It was It was called uh They call it misogyny.

[00:21:02]I call it letting a woman who's beautiful let her be beautiful. You know?

[00:21:08]I I hate when people tell me it's like, "Whoa, no, no, no." It's like you can't show off anyone, you know, a woman looking like a beautiful woman. You're you're objectifying her.

[00:21:16]Um it's not you're not objectifying a woman if she agrees to be paid. I'm sorry. It doesn't work that way. Plus it's This is the It wouldn't make sense to have someone in a burqa in Miami, you know, hot 80 to 90 degrees.

[00:21:29]>> [laughter] >> It's I was just Like I said, um the car back in the day, too. Uh it's just I just love all this stuff, you know. Formal outfit, okay, cocktail dress, evening.

[00:21:41]>> Yes. Uh she was wearing a lot of white earlier, and then they had relations, now she's wearing black. I I don't know if that's intentional. But here's the thing. [laughter] She's a really good actress. She plays off very subtly in here. She doesn't come across as very powerful as she does in stuff. So Sharon Stone's got some chops. One thing about her is like like if you look at her chest, for example, and I'm being serious.

[00:21:58]If she had huge tits or boob job or her uh cleavage was showing and not showing it.

[00:22:04]>> But when she's dressed like this, you know she's a beautiful woman, but it's not distracting you. We're not focusing on her face and and the look of distress that she's got or the scene itself. Same thing with the car, and that's why I say when I talk about suits and Colombo and all that stuff in TV shows, a good suit is on somebody you don't recognize.

[00:22:22]>> Sharon Stone makes you look at their face. Here you're looking at her entire figure.

[00:22:27]She's known for her legs and her face.

[00:22:30]That's what she was known for in Basic Instinct.

[00:22:33]You know, saw her in Total Recall.

[00:22:35]Yep. You know, as I said, she's a good-looking woman. She's not afraid to show it off. She's not She's She's not, you know, being objectified. Nowadays, people don't even I said to people like these [ __ ] excuses, "Well, we can't show any skin now."

[00:22:47]It's like, okay.

[00:22:49]>> That's natural. But then you But then you're like, "Well, have Okay, then Aquaman comes on." He's like he needs like almost in a speedo. And like, "Oh, that's fine, though." It's like, "What?"

[00:22:59]I don't know. But uh And I'm sorry for those who who are offended by uh guys uh uh lusting over hot babes.

[00:23:07]Cuz I'm totally into that.

[00:23:09]>> [laughter] >> It it it's Admiring the woman's beauty.

[00:23:12]>> Being sexy. Yeah.

[00:23:13]>> It's got to be sexy, right? And this is when she's talking to him about like really wanting to meet and all that, too. She's not afraid to smoke. Got cuz smoking was basically dying out in television shows and movies of this time. And she's got classy uh lingerie on here, too. She's the one that's definitely comfortable in her body, and I appreciate that as as a Those old wicker chairs, I would hate those things. So uncomfortable.

[00:23:33]Yeah. That's old school Miami look right there.

[00:23:36]Right.

[00:23:36]>> another slide. We're getting towards the end, I think. There's one or two more I think I know that I picked.

[00:23:40]>> Yeah. Then there's that whole uh bed scene she's in the uh that stocking the whole I think lingerie stuff and just So, when they go off uh uh they manage to escape because there's this actual incredible scene where they're in a hotel.

[00:23:53]And she comes downstairs.

[00:23:56]And Eric Roberts is onto her.

[00:23:59]And she's basically telling him about by time Well, he's here in the hotel. I've got a car I've got my, you know, the key here and all this and that. So, they're up there. And if you watch the film, you see it because it's an angular hotel where it gets actually farther and farther out the higher you go. And what's cool is the entire level of these bad guys walk in the room with James Woods there. And you see it as the bombs are going off, the whole level of the hotel falls down into the ocean.

[00:24:22]>> recognize the buildings in the background?

[00:24:25]Um it's I'm sure that's just a projection, and this is just a a whatever, but I would believe it's a projection off of Miami because I assume this is on This would be north of area we're talking about Ocean Beach Drive and all that stuff. They're probably from there.

[00:24:39]So, I don't know that that's the Fontainebleau. That looks staggered. I I don't know. Is it a studio Is it like the Conan O'Brien where they have a studio and then they and they have the printed background or >> like this usually is is is a projection, but they usually take a big high detailed of the area in or you stock and project it, right?

[00:24:57]>> Yeah. So, this is when they consummate the relationship or whatever, too. And of course, they don't hold back. They go a couple minutes because they're in a shower going at it. I'm like, man, they go >> Yeah, warning, you will see Stallone's bare butt cheek.

[00:25:11]>> Just He's nude. So, what? Women like to see men's ass? Well, I'm just I'm just letting people know. Are you offended?

[00:25:17][clears throat] No, cuz you want to pause, okay? Well, here's the thing. What's offensive in there? Because while they're making out with the water going on it, I I will say this, hey, to each their own, no matter how you identify or choose not to or what activities you partake in for pleasure, physically speaking, or you can combine them with others. But when you're in a shower, overrated, and you don't lay down where the water's going to drain and and and pump her full of it, if you know what I'm saying. No, I just that's Pump her full of love?

[00:25:47]So, that was that's my gripe about this.

[00:25:49]It wasn't his ass.

[00:25:50]>> And then we go to the best And a pile of their own fluid. Joy their point joy, happiness.

[00:25:58]Uh and then we go to the best part of the movie.

[00:26:00]Justice cup is is the best part of the whole entire movie. I love this cup.

[00:26:06]>> [laughter] >> So, I I this popped me because I I forgot that, you know, when you when you're in Miami, it's a big retirement area like a lot of Florida is.

[00:26:14]So, there's some rich villa or some retirement place where they have some giant open pool. People diving and swimming. And the bomb one of a bomb he was making um that we didn't really see.

[00:26:24]We saw the other one was was a different bomb.

[00:26:27]He's dressed up in tennis outfits with the shorts and the polo and the racket. And I'm laughing my ass off going, I love it.

[00:26:35]And he's laying there. And um he's just kind of looking around with his glasses.

[00:26:40]And this is where he see Eric Roberts go in to one of the poolside villas that that are right there really close right next to the the pool.

[00:26:47]And so, what happens is he walks up and he switches out the ceramic uh cup and plate with the one is designed that's a bomb. So, when you lift the cup off the plate it explodes, right?

[00:26:58]>> Uh-huh. So, they're willing to send first class. So, that's a bougainvillea right behind it and he goes into the little room there. But, as soon as he goes in there he sees Sharon Stone walk in there.

[00:27:08]And then the it explodes. So, he he thinks she's dead.

[00:27:11]She's not, of course, blah blah blah.

[00:27:13]And it's Look, if you think about the movie honestly and the plot and and some of the stuff it's kind of dumb.

[00:27:18]But, the movie you're just watching cuz it It's like Miami Vice, there's a feel to it. This movie captures that feel.

[00:27:23]It's not a Michael Mann production, but it feels like Miami. And so, I just thought this is really cool and like a nice little way of of kind of feeling it out. And that's what made this movie interesting was this little cat-mouse stuff where he's not just throwing dynamite sticks or bombs or what like that or tossing a grenade, right? It's how do I make this bomb and how do how do I know what he's going to use? Well, put it with the coffee cup. This I like this. This is the kind of stuff you get in high-end resorts.

[00:27:47]Right.

[00:27:48]Yeah.

[00:27:50]All right. And then we got the last one here.

[00:27:54]Huh?

[00:27:57]Still there?

[00:27:58]Yep, I'm here. Okay, well, just popped up. So, for me So, Eric Roberts' muscles been wiped out in the uh with the the door bomb. Then you've got Eric Roberts just got wiped out by the coffee bomb.

[00:28:13]Then you've got James Woods basically going at it with Sharon Stone. They go to the place they have basically kind of a supposed to be a shootout, but it really ends up being a bomb off because he's got his own place wired. And it works.

[00:28:27]And they manage to escape basically.

[00:28:30]But, right before we see that uh Stallone and Sharon Stone escape, this is Rod Steiger, the head mafia guy. It seems like he's the last one standing who orders all the executions. He chews up every scene. "You guys you don't" He's like Scarface on steroids, right?

[00:28:43]And he's a great actor in his own right.

[00:28:45]He This guy is not a lightweight by any means. He really plays the role well in here.

[00:28:50]But what happens is he gets a little letter and uh he's and while he's getting the letter, he puts it down cuz he's reading the old school newspaper that says these three names and it's the names of the characters falling dead and whatever. So he looks up and he just goes, "You're a kind guy. Like, you know, like you're looking out for me, right?" And then he puts the paper down, then he opens up the mail thing. As soon as he does, boom. Cuz it's like a bomb with a piece of mail. And then that's when you hear Gloria Estefan playing and they're driving off in in an old sports car like that convertible and they're making out while they're driving.

[00:29:26]>> Yeah.

[00:29:28]And and he keeps and he and he keeps looking at her and somehow not like crashing. Right, exactly. Cuz the cuz what you don't see when that happens is whenever I want to make what make out with my wife and I'm driving, I just make sure it's attached to the to the stunt car in front of me that has the cameras on it, you know? So then that way the road's also closed off, too. I So I grabbed another found another still. I think this is the one that was behind the hotel.

[00:29:51]So this is the Trying to remember what part of Miami this is.

[00:29:55]That's the same spot. That's the L that's the elevated train. That building, I believe, we see in Miami Vice at some point. I think You know every year Miami Vice changed opening credits with some of the shots. I think that's in the later season.

[00:30:08]>> like a Reebok or something like that. Or actually that's Yeah, that's Reebok.

[00:30:13]It's lighting up building that way was starting to become new. So I think it was a '94 actually. It might have been the same year in early '90s to mid '90s.

[00:30:24]Orlando where, you know, I don't claim to be a resident of cuz I'm on the outskirts, is they blew up city hall at the time and that was what they used in the second Lethal Weapon with the whole setup there. I think it was Joe Pesci. So the all these downtowns are getting reshaped with some of these skyscrapers and the lighting and stuff.

[00:30:43]So, that this is all in exact same area.

[00:30:46]Yeah, I was just trying I think I'm I'm trying to with that one of the red letter on it. I'm trying to think is it cuz I know Reebok and all that stuff were really popular back then. So, Well, no, that's going to be a bank and the thing is is banks were Was it Roth? I can't really read it.

[00:31:01]What was the one that they in the '80s they had the one they were they were going into? Wasn't it R so the R and they became an international bank later on?

[00:31:08]Could have been RBC. I I I'm not sure or Roth maybe I don't know but Roth was a top of the investment vehicle. But no, there's a lot more banks and buildings and they've been consolidated since the '90s. So, you saw a lot of bank buildings like that.

[00:31:20]So, you want to know if you've ever watched a Stallone movie, this is a scene in every movie, him on a payphone.

[00:31:29]>> [laughter] >> I literally every every Stallone movie I guarantee you if I can clip them together, you'll have a montage of him just being on a phone.

[00:31:38]So.

[00:31:39]I like it. Yeah.

[00:31:40]>> [laughter] >> Right? Well, one of the things we've talked about since the '80s was we we talked about Commando uh for Father's Day. That's the turning point where everything turned to be explosives and big and not really martial arts, unfortunately. This would not stop. But what I do like about Stallone's transition going into this time now in the '90s is that he would play more roles like this. Good guys and bad guys and good guys stuff, yeah. And and and even even though Total Recall had come out already a couple of years earlier and Schwarzenegger still making movies, he was getting a Kindergarten Cop. He was transitioning into other roles as well. And that was something in the '90s that grown-ups seen these some of these actors since the '70s but definitely in the '80s, it was it was notable because the movies were different, what people seemed to want was different, how things were portrayed was a lot cleaner and less intense in my opinion, especially in the '90s. It was sanitized even more than the '80s, certainly more than the '70s.

[00:32:38]And you know, the things that were hot in pop culture like like the Miami scene, you know, the New York sound coming down from New York down to Miami because of the Latin connection and everything too and from the West Coast coming over here to the East Coast.

[00:32:50]All that solid and um you know, I lived it here in Central Florida and you know, where you're at in the Midwest, I don't know if cultural things pop up later. I I It's hard for me to to to say that. Usually things are fine.

[00:33:04]>> Define Define cultural things.

[00:33:06]Well, pop culture like what you see in movies. Like for example, smoking was everywhere, right? Then it after the '80s gone, right? People still smoke. Um drugs were always around, but now you >> Um smoking was allowed in bars here until like oh my gosh, till like 2007 it was, 2008, 9.

[00:33:25]You're allowed to smoke in bars and and then Wisconsin decided, "Oh, we're going to pass things. You have to smoke outside." I'm like, "Why? It's It should be up to the business to decide what they want. If it's a bar, you're going there to smoke and drink."

[00:33:38]You know?

[00:33:39]And if I I still say that if you're a restaurant, you should be allowed to have smoking if you want to or no smoking. It's not up to you. It's up to the codes that are set by city.

[00:33:47]>> Which which which I think is so dumb.

[00:33:49]Telling me what I can do.

[00:33:50]Yeah.

[00:33:51]>> That's the reality of it. Yeah.

[00:33:53]As long as the cook the cook's not dropping ash into my steak while he's cooking, >> [laughter] >> it's like I like I'm fine, you know? Hey, plus it adds a little bit of flavor, you know?

[00:34:05]Man, most of people who hate smoking wouldn't wouldn't survive back in the airplanes back in the day.

[00:34:11]They would have They would have cried and just never came out of the house.

[00:34:15]Yeah, food is uh food is good. Yeah. Um But um Well, some of some of the human things like like sex and violence and eating and drinking and smoking, the primal stuff, that's been so sanitized in the '90s and everything else there too. So, you know, you wouldn't have some of the stuff now in TV shows that you should be there and people say, "Well, what about the sex scene in this?

[00:34:34]And what about this and that?" Well, I got to ask, they're not sexy. It's just it's like fake sex.

[00:34:39]>> Did Elizabeth Taylor ever play like the like the the jaded woman, the woman who basically couldn't trust her?

[00:34:45]Who is this?

[00:34:46]Elizabeth Taylor. Cuz Sharon Stone reminds you of the way Elizabeth Taylor looked and stuff. And Sharon Stone was known for playing the the untrusty woman, you know? You know, you know, or the >> film fatale. This goes back to the '30s and '40s. So, the blonde.

[00:35:01]You know. Like Lucille Like I said, can you imagine it with with Bogart and and and his and his girl? Yeah. Lauren Bacall. Because that's what she reminds you of. Kind of like yeah, like Lauren Bacall or yeah, Elizabeth Taylor or any of those women back in the day.

[00:35:15]She had Sharon Stone has that look. She was born with that look and she just she played well into these movies.

[00:35:20]I I agree. I think she's she's like a natural beauty. I mean, at the time to me I I still while I enjoyed her, I think Diane Lane is is a level above especially in the '90s. Um Diane Lane Unspeakable, I think it was.

[00:35:33]Or Unfaithful, that's what it was.

[00:35:34]Unfaithful. Yeah, wow.

[00:35:37]But here's here's the thing. It's just when when you think of like an old older starlet like you're talking about there And this this is here here here you know, I'm you know, we're talking pop culture. This is something I'll bring up. The old studio system created stars.

[00:35:53]There was less [clears throat] actors um generally speaking in films, but you had some that were the bankable stars and they were always looking to make one. The problem is is now because of the way TV movies are and there's a much more volume of it, everybody thinks they're stars because they're acting or they're doing something. But they're not stars like a Frank Sinatra has been or some of your early performers that broke out big like like Elvis or in the '60s like the Beatles even though it was a short window of time. There's not those iconic type stars. So, with Elizabeth Taylor who'd been notorious for being married times, she was Cleopatra, her Richard Burton's affair and all that kind of stuff. That was scandalous, big time Hollywood stuff.

[00:36:30]Very few actors or actresses today have that kind of cachet anymore because everything's kind of watered down. We're We're a lot more closer to them. We know more about who they are and everything, too.

[00:36:40]Um and instead of just watching what we want to know them for, now we listen to their tweets. Now we listen to interviews. Now we hear about, "Well, I want to change the film to this. I want to have input on that." And it's like, "Okay, whose vision are we doing with it? Is Is it Is it the studio's or everybody checks the box or otherwise you get no funding cuz that's how most everything is today." Or is it an artist's vision? When I mentioned John Barry scoring James Bond films and doing the score here, but yet you modernize it with the Latin sound of the '90s and Gloria Estefan, whether you like her or think she's authentic or not. I mean, that's the That's legit. The jazz singer at the beginning, I think it's one of her backup singers. I don't know her, but that's old school adult jazz. You know who I would have I'd love to see on screen and all working together would have been Nicolas Cage and Sharon Stone.

[00:37:26]Especially like the Well, well, not not not '80s Nicolas Cage, the current Nicolas Cage. When he's He started doing all these like these uh uh I think it was Stran or or Stolen.

[00:37:38]Doing all this stuff, the heist stuff. I would have loved to see him dealing with her, you know, so he can either either his ex-wife or, you know, cuz people uh So, looking at this movie reviews about this movie. So, someone had Someone had a problem. They said that, "Oh my gosh, the chemistry between him and Sharon Stone and and and uh and Stallone was horrible." That they actually want to They want to raspberry in 2015 for this. I'm thinking like, They're saying this is the Is this Stallone uh won won the worst picture ever for this? I'm I'm thinking like, these people are idiots. This is actually It's a good movie. That's why it made money. Just cuz you hate it now means nothing, you know?

[00:38:15]Uh at the time people loved it. And but I don't know. But uh Siskel and Ebert like, you know, it's I think it was Siskel who said like "Oh my gosh, this movie was so bad."

[00:38:25]It's like you know, don't you know, it was like Speed and Blown Away except that this has the good guy being the bomber.

[00:38:32]I'm thinking like you don't like Speed and you don't like Blown Away?

[00:38:35]People love Speed. Speed was good.

[00:38:37]>> [laughter] >> I can't I can't I can't I can't remember which one was a was bad. Was it Ebert or was it or was it Siskel?

[00:38:46]All I know is that I >> Ebert was the was the calorically challenged individual and the other one was Siskel.

[00:38:52]>> I'll I'll say this Siskel and Ebert, every time I look at a movie and it says they don't like it, I've noticed I'm like, "Yeah, they're full of shit."

[00:39:00]They just they get paid to hate on things.

[00:39:02]>> [laughter] >> No, I disagree completely. Most most people that reviewed films honestly, and this is again going back to the '90s kind of throwback, they really attempted to try to say what's the movie trying to do and is it is it successful in doing so.

[00:39:20]>> Well, here's I see what I've learned.

[00:39:22]Like it or not, but you know, that's a taste thing, right? So, that's kind of the thing that It's Well, as I said this It does something doesn't make money because it's good. Something makes money because people spend money on it. People spend money on all sorts of stuff that's [ __ ] Okay, but if they spend money at that, it's their choice. So, how much it makes isn't really kind of Well, if people keep if people keep going back and forth and they keep watching it, it you know, that that means that it's very popular, therefore it's a good movie to them.

[00:39:54]It's just that you may not like it being a contrarian.

[00:39:59]Well, yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Like like I said the movie, but when you look at it in terms of how it's produced and how it's >> it. It was okay. But I'll never watch it again. It's way too long.

[00:40:08]Yeah.

[00:40:09]>> [snorts] >> Like I watched John Wick, I'll never go back and watch it again. I watched Iron Man. I liked Iron Man when it came out.

[00:40:14]But I was trying to watch it again, it was too slow-paced.

[00:40:17]And it's boring.

[00:40:18]Yeah, the older you get, the more you your attention span with that stuff actually worsening, which is surprising. Most people when they get older, it goes the opposite direction. That's one thing I've noticed with you, Joe.

[00:40:28]>> Well, I'm I like I like all different kind of genre genre stuff. I said, I try to like I like faster-paced movies. Mhm.

[00:40:35]You do.

[00:40:36]I don't like when stuff stretched out.

[00:40:38]They're do they do especially when you it could be like a like Disney does this all the time.

[00:40:42]They're doing a TV show and say instead of uh it could be like an eight uh they rush stuff. I don't like when it's too rushed. Like where I've also seen where they also stretch it out, too. Where it could just be like a six episode or four episode and they stretch it out to six.

[00:40:57]So, they get that that that even number of episodes and then it's like, man, you put so much filler in there. You could have just short take this this out there and it would have been done. It would have been it would have been perfect, but instead you put this whole bloated season in and it didn't need to be in there.

[00:41:09]So, I I mean, I try not to be too picky at movies. I said cuz a lot of times I find stuff that I just I enjoy. And and I'll say this, people get people get mad because they're like, well, I shouldn't have to turn my brain off to watch movie.

[00:41:21]Bro, if you're overanalyzing a movie, you're not enjoying it. You're overanalyzing you're trying to look for things that they'll could be wrong. You know? Like just >> Well, some people like doing that. And that's the thing though. It's like, well, you're going to find a lot of stuff you're not going to like then.

[00:41:36]You know? You may find a few, but it's like those people I said a lot of people become curmudgeons as our friend Eric Brehm likes to say.

[00:41:43]Well, the other thing too is there's a lot of [ __ ] out there. There is there is, but there's also a lot of good stuff, too. I that may be true, but what I will say is that because there's so much product out there in terms of hours of screen time and all that, a lot of it's being made now with AI. It's being made with groups of writers rather than a team or an individual. So, they have they have they they've even gone so far as to basically say, "Hey, you know, you just don't like us or our company, so you're giving us a bad rating. so we're not going to allow you to give your opinion on on sites cuz you're stupid and you don't know what the movie's about. It's gone to where the audience member, if you think about it, I I think we may have both agree on this, is that we're treated as stupid and dumb because we don't get what they're trying to do as opposed to going, "No, dumb [ __ ] all you need to do is this and I'll give you money and be entertained."

[00:42:31]>> to point out this. I I've noticed that um is that there's a lot of focus on the bad stuff. It's cuz they're pushing it.

[00:42:38]They Hollywood's pushing certain things.

[00:42:39]They push the bad movies. And the good movies, well, you got to times half times will not get the push.

[00:42:45]And that's been for a long time, you know, God, they've been doing this.

[00:42:48]Especially more that's just more apparent now because there's a lot of crap they're putting out pushing. I agree. There's a lot of bad movies, but I think it's only it's more like a side up because they they push all the bad movies. So, you'll come across a good movie. It's just that why didn't this get to theater because it was straight to DVD movie or straight to streaming.

[00:43:07]And it sometimes is better than what's out. Like I said, I like that movie we just we rewatched earlier. Um uh Rip It.

[00:43:14]I think it was called it was I think it was called The Rip.

[00:43:17]With Matt Damon and Ben Affleck.

[00:43:20]That was actually that was better than a lot of stuff I've seen coming out this year.

[00:43:24]Yeah, but nobody even knows it exists.

[00:43:26]Well, they they did for for a week.

[00:43:29]That's what I'm saying, [laughter] right?

[00:43:30]Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like I said, a lot of stuff gets pumped and dumped and then and then they you forget about it. And then and then or it's it's it's where it's it doesn't get the advertising or doesn't get, you know, and some people can say, "Well, that's what the movie for." Because I'm like, "No, sometimes it's just movies just don't go to theaters." Instead they just cuz a lot of people realize like they can make more money streaming than they can doing theaters. Absolutely. And especially if you if they make movies for streaming, which I think is much more ideally now because theaters are dead. They've been dead for the past 15 years, almost 10 years.

[00:44:07]Really, because unless you're going to Okay, people came out and saw Barbie. Okay, cool. Cuz you know why? Cuz that's Barbie.

[00:44:14]It's the first of its movie. But they didn't even like Barbie 15 or Barbie 3.

[00:44:18]They're not coming out for that.

[00:44:20]Avatar 3 Same thing.

[00:44:22]Yeah, I think I think Avatar 3 um I think I think a lot of that just basically was made from streaming.

[00:44:30]I don't think I don't think it was from theaters. Well, here's the thing. And this is something that happens business practices. I'm sure I think people may know about it, but let's say I've got a $100 million movie out there, big huge kind of movie. Although that's not an exorbitant salary for movie, right?

[00:44:46]>> [clears throat] >> But let's say, you know, I'm getting reviews, the movie's gone digital, it's in all the theaters.

[00:44:53]First of all, you're paying off all the people and the influencers to tell you that it's good. So, that's your advertising budget, which is blown up.

[00:45:01]I've been to many places here in Central Florida on opening night, Friday afternoon, let's say Friday evening, and I know people in theaters here for my entire adult life. Um that get me in to see things a lot too. So, I've been privileged over the years to see things on a first come basis, right? Best seat in the house, first showing, all that stuff. So, for some movies, that's exciting because it feels like an event, right? And that's that's the excitement that makes you want to enjoy the movie and the experience.

[00:45:26]But when you get into the huge giant IMAX screen and you've got five people sitting around you, yet when you see in the papers or on the internet that oh, it made X amount of million per week, who's to say the company that I own didn't turn around and just buy all the tickets even though to make it look like a sellout. So, I'm reinvesting my own product so the hype lasts for the second and third week to keep people out because all they measure is the first two to three weeks of of the That's like 90% of >> Yeah. a movie's gross. It used to not be that way cuz it would play longer. But since that's one of the gifts the '90s gives us besides this movie and other themes we'll talk about as we do more 90s movies, is that the business of movies and how it became unaffordable and more about numbers chasing rather than at least giving the fake impression to the people wanting to make money from that you care about it. That started in the 90s, bro.

[00:46:17]>> Who I want to ask this, who is going to pay 20 or almost $20 for two people to go or $24 or 30 bucks for a popcorn and two people to go see watch a movie for 3 hours and 15 minutes and it's and actually sit there and not have to pee and get up in the middle of it.

[00:46:34]Cuz I mean if you're doing that and you're not even watch the movie, why even there? Watch it home and streaming.

[00:46:42]I it's it's just blowing my it's just the rationality of someone who sit there for 3 hours and 15 minutes to watch Avatar for pretty pretty net blue people and all the stuff on there. I said and like 3 hours and 15 minutes, man. It's like watching a football game and and never going to the bathroom.

[00:46:58]Well, you know, Yeah, that's [laughter] the people and and Avatar has its own fan base due to the uh the messaging all of Avatar. Here's the thing, I can be so hooked into a movie, but once I reach that 2 and 1/2 hour movie, I think I if I had a soda beforehand, it's like being a car ride for 2 hours. You got to go. It's like I I was like that when I was like 20.

[00:47:23]There's nothing to do cuz I have active in my 40s. I ain't nothing of that crap.

[00:47:26]It's like I'm just thinking like 3 hours and like man, uh and you're you're wondering why people aren't going to the theaters. If you're putting out 3-hour movies, people are just realize I can stay at home, watch it come from of my bed and pass out on my bed. You know? Or a couch where you want to do that instead of sleeping >> All I'll say is Cameron and 3-hour movies, he can do whatever the [ __ ] he wants, someone's going to care. Yeah, cuz they're going to keep paying him for him whether it flops or not. They're going to pay him money.

[00:47:50]That shit's making money. Yeah. Big prints. Yeah. Like I said, Avatar I'm not knocking have 3 quality. I'm just saying it's like if you're going to watch an Avatar movie, just watch it home. You don't need to watch on the big screen. I think people are like I hate that argument.

[00:48:04]You got to you got to experience on the big screen.

[00:48:06]Does it change the movie for you? Does the movie have extra scenes? It does.

[00:48:11]I mean not extra scenes, but So you're saying So you're So you're saying if you saw Sharknado on the big screen, you'd like it more?

[00:48:18]Why did you say Sharknado? Or Red Dog Red Dog Time.

[00:48:23]>> [laughter] >> I said I said I watched I I watched those but I love Ghostbusters.

[00:48:29]I love I love Jurassic Park. I love Ghostbusters, but I like I had the exact same experience at home versus watching in the theater. I would disagree. Oh, no. I watched them both in theater and I had and I had the exact same experience at home. The only The only difference at home is that I could pause it and go and actually go use the bathroom.

[00:48:50]I just know that when I would go to movies, it was a better experience because the people were having fun as well and the prints a lot was a lot better. But to your point, I'll say this as we close up. In the '90s when films started to getting digital and that became more of a thing, the lighting on them was horrible. So the movies are very dim when you watch them and a lot of it had to do with the technology up there with the machine where the I don't agree. If you're watching it versus '70s and then versus '90s and later on, yeah.

[00:49:17]But The Fugitive, watching that like on a big screen or IMAX back in the '90s, [clears throat] 100 times better than watching it on Oh my gosh. I watched that movie HDTV. So I watched that new movie Twister came Oh, that's not new anymore, but it came out like that 2 years ago, whatever. I watched it at the theater and it has this I saw the movie. They had the panoramic screen where they where they put the movie here and then they have it on the sides, too. So they film it that way. So it goes like this.

[00:49:40]You're looking at the wall.

[00:49:42]Uh-huh. And it was the most stupidest thing ever. I'll never go back and watch movie like that. I was like that's dumb.

[00:49:48]Cuz I don't like turning my head to look at it like this.

[00:49:51]>> [laughter] >> It's cuz And as it is, you're laying down, too, remember? Because you have the freaking things. So, you're like this and they're trying to look. I'm like, "I don't want to move my head to follow the freaking thing. How about you put it right there?"

[00:50:03]Well, whether you whether you like it or not, or I do or I don't, or anybody, the point is it's definitely by the '90s.

[00:50:08]They're trying to do things out. That's all.

[00:50:10]>> No, what's going on here besides the shittiness of content is theaters and other people tried and they've ignored There's there's no expression. The thing is the thing and it's always the thing, you know? And what happens is when you go away from the thing, you [ __ ] up. So, the thing is the quality of the movie trying to make a good movie.

[00:50:29]The problem is is when you go, "Well, because we need to charge more to make our money, we're going to now put in leather seats in some of our IMAX screens, but not the other ones. We'll make those screens big, but the other ones really small." And they'll they'll they'll get the bean counters to maximize the revenue and profit and all that. But, what it is is it's taken away the experience of going and the excitement of seeing a film on opening night or weekend for the week or during the week, or God forbid the drive-in, which used to be a thing, which people probably don't know Young kids don't know too much about today.

[00:50:56]>> I'm the worst person >> the experience for the viewer by degrading the quality in all forms in terms of content, the price, the the the this and that, by not having people policing kick people out when they're on their phones or or screwing around or talking or going in late and locking the doors.

[00:51:12]That's why you're you're chasing off your marks, which is us giving you money. But, here again, to the point and this is the big disconnect in in the in the movies and just general content is this.

[00:51:22]The money comes from other companies, not from individual consumers. So, therefore, the individual consumers' thoughts and needs do not matter. That's why constant revenue is non-existent or whatever. Uh you know, you and I talked about spec stage with wrestling and it's like that with sports. It's It has nothing to do with the individual viewer anymore. It's about corporations and all that. And the '90s were notorious for this changing in sports and in pop culture when it comes to movies and music and everything else there, too. Final thoughts? I'll just say this the last thing before we leave here. Um I as I get I noticed as the old over the years I get older, I prefer to watch movie by myself.

[00:51:57]I just have my headphones on and just watch it.

[00:52:00]Uh versus being in a theater cuz I said I've I've never liked even when I was a younger I didn't not like going opening nights. It's crowded. People talk. Uh people popcorn It's like come on. It's just like And then people Yeah, Yeah, it's Nowadays especially people in the past 30 years people have been on their phones in theaters. They don't turn them off.

[00:52:21]And people laughing and so it's it's like I just want to watch to hear the actual audio of the stuff too. It's like I don't know. I'll say this. Jurassic Park I'll give you this. The audio is different than watching at home. But here's the thing now. We We now have that surround sound at home.

[00:52:37]So if the I the theaters are becoming obsolete cuz we have now have the huge TVs.

[00:52:42]We have also they sell projectors too now. You can have Well, it's like saying you can stay home and pleasure yourself and not need a woman, you know I mean >> Well, it's like well, I'd rather do that at home than risk getting arrested like Pee-wee Herman did, you know.

[00:52:55]>> [laughter] >> Uh and then but I mean like you would Theaters are nice. Do you know what I'd rather go watch? An outdoor theater.

[00:53:02]Yeah. Smaller more intimate venues.

[00:53:05]I'll close with this. The last great experience I had in a theater was last summer in July.

[00:53:11]Uh you know sometimes they do like classic movies at certain movie theaters here in Central Florida.

[00:53:16]And I met with my a group of uh friends I've known since I was a kid.

[00:53:21]Um we went out we had dinner and we went to the small little theater that must have been 100 years old.

[00:53:26]And we watched and I'm not joking when I say this. No commercials, no [ __ ] Everyone was quiet. Everyone was kind of older. There's some younger people too that wanted to see what the buzz was about all the nerds and stuff cuz gaming is a popular thing, right? We saw Flash Gordon.

[00:53:41]And it was [ __ ] phenomenal. And I'm going, man, when you used to go to the movies back in the day, no matter how bad the movie was, it still felt good to watch it there because just the attitude people have. And you're right, everyone's attitude sucks today, they don't give a [ __ ] That's why it's a bad viewing experience, plus all the other reasons. So, it's no wonder, to your point, they're dying. I I agree with you in that regard, big picture wise. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us for The Specialist. Um like I said, it's an extreme movie show, we never really talk about what we're going to say, it just kind of happens. So, we usually talk the film, we talk about how it's related to other things, things you guys bring up and mention to us, stuff that's might be going on at the time we scheduled it, reasons why we did it. So, we're very loose with our schedule, we go by feel, um except for around Halloween where we try to focus more on on Halloween type movies and of course recommendations.

[00:54:28]So, we always appreciate when you guys give us feedback. Of course, retweeting so more people can join and see us live.

[00:54:33]>> Commenting down below, let us know what's not in the movie, if you could disagree with us, disagree with us, give uh movie recommendations.

[00:54:41]Yeah, stuff like that. As long as it's not like The Odyssey or anything really.

[00:54:44]>> [laughter] >> So, tomorrow night, 9:00 p.m. Eastern, live here on Extreme Movie Show, we're continuing season 2 of Forever Knight.

[00:54:51]We've got super fan Kevin Dobson and several others from the online Facebook groups for Forever Knight. Thank you guys for joining up. Thank you for the few followers that decided to join this week. Hey, I think I'm breaking 90 followers now on uh Twitter there, sir.

[00:55:05]You know, it's pale in comparison to your four to 500. And certainly, I'm not even a blue check guy. But, it's always nice because that it makes That's what makes it fun is talking about it, but then if it becomes that kind of a conversation because you guys are involved as well. Anything else, RDV?

[00:55:19]Nope, that's it. So, guys, subscribe, hit the like button, do all the fun stuff, and and we'll see you on Well, tomorrow night, 8:00 p.m. Central, 9:00 p.m. Eastern for Forever Knight. Then stop back here on Sunday for at 6:00 p.m.

[00:55:32]6:00 p.m. Central, 7:00 p.m. Eastern.

[00:55:35]Goodnight, Al.

[00:55:36]For uh Milk Run.

[00:55:38]>> [laughter] >> Forever Knight Exactly. That's the reason. Skanky's [laughter] in it. Yes.

[00:55:45]Skanky milk run. Right.