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Welcome, welcome, welcome back to another episode today. Uh, a caffer answers your questions.
A capp for being me.
So, you know, I like to prepare topics most of the times for you guys, but today I was going through my regular process of coming up with a topic and I was like, you know what?
I don't feel like coming up with a topic.
Just going to come on live and chill with you guys.
Um, see what you guys want to talk about.
So, let's do that. and let's just see what we get. Either way, I'm gonna be sitting here for about three hours and I guess we'll figure it out. We'll figure things out in that in that time period. Where's Why is my things not working?
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Let's see what kind of nonsense we come up with today. Hopefully, we don't argue with any Jews.
I felt kind of bad about it. I was I was thinking about what the argument I had yesterday with Courtney and I felt bad.
Yeah. Yesterday, you guys know I always defend Israel. I always defend Jews.
But we had Courtney, Tik Tok's favorite scholarly Messianic Jew.
Um she came up initially, I think it was to agree with me on something, but then eventually we ended up disagreeing.
We just kind of we just started talking [ __ ] about each other basically.
So, I felt bad about that, but whatever.
Today, I'm not sure what uh I don't know. Like I said, if there's something you guys want to talk about, let me know.
There's not really much to say, dude.
We're going to talk about it's a fake religion, right?
Um, it's Arabic propaganda.
We're talking about Islam, right? Arabic propaganda. Fake fairy tale.
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What else needs to be said?
What else needs to be said about it? I don't know. I'm trying to see if there's interesting topics. I've been looking up some stuff.
There are some pretty interesting sources that I found recently that talk about you know how you know okay so for example I'll give you an example you know how Muslims always say that um like Josephus for example they'll take the fact that Josephus may have had some redactions to it right or where people may have like what could we call They have may have like overly exaggerated what he said in his writings about Jesus because he was a Jew, not a Christian, never converted, but he kind of makes it sound like he believes in the Messiah, Jesus Christ.
So, people will look at that and some historians will say that that's kind of made up. And so, they'll they'll use that to downplay what Josephus said.
But, I've been looking at some uh some sources for Muhammad.
And the weird thing is that the earliest sources for Muhammad say that he was actually he may have been one of the people that conquered uh Palestine and that he may have actually lived longer um than the traditional sources say. I thought I thought that was pretty interesting. What up, Neo?
>> Yo, what's good brother?
>> Good G, man. What do you think about my argument yesterday?
>> Oh, I mean I feel kind of bad that I'm the one that that initiated it, you know, like it just took a it took a wrong turn, but >> you know, I think I think >> I mean I'm the one that asked her about Jesus in and Talmood and then and then you guys kind of went I guess >> Oh yeah, but that's not your fault.
That's just you're asking a question.
That's normal. You should be asking questions.
But no, I think people get people get heated, you know, in in certain in like uh you know these kind of debates because you know their identity or tied to it and you know people I don't know man I think it's it's normal as long as I mean you don't get too out of line.
They'll talk about like mothers and you know what I mean you know but it happens.
>> She kept saying I was sucking toes or some [ __ ] in my head I was like whose toe am I trying to suck? Like I don't get it.
Yeah.
>> Um but yeah, so you know, whatever.
Hopefully she's >> Yeah, >> I'm sure she's fine. She doesn't care.
Probably she doesn't she's used to these things, too.
>> Yeah, bro. Online people say they're a lot worse, man. I think that was just a heated exchange and you get over it, you know.
But it's definitely um it's definitely interesting because like you said, I I had this uh you know u notion that that like you right like you said I used to think that Jesus in the Talmud was for sure like there was no debating it and now I'm like okay fair.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is like yeah I was I just don't understand like how people leave that part of the story out right like you get what I'm saying?
It would be like if I wrote a story about, I don't know, some guy named Donald Trump who was a student of of Hitler, right? Like like you be like, "Wait a minute, that's not the same Donald Trump then." You get what I'm saying? Like it's weird.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, you know, but I don't know. Like I said, I walked away thinking maybe they wanted maybe the person who wrote it, maybe he wanted it to be about Jesus, but maybe just he got his people all mixed up. You know what? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I I I I asked Courtney and I have to go back and read it. Like I read it like five times and I still I still don't fully understand um her her um argument. But from what I think what I No, not even trying to be, you know, funny. But I I think that she was saying that >> um back then people were afraid of using the word like using Jesus, which I searched up and it kind of makes sense cuz they're being persecuted. So, you know, they were still kind of under Roman um persecution.
>> So, I kind of get that. But then the part that I'm missing is like >> whether that person Okay. So, I think what she's saying was like that person meant to say Jesus >> and then put it in a different timeline or someone tampered it and put it in a different timeline.
>> Yeah.
>> I got Yeah. Yeah. And I and I can see that too, like where where >> he wanted to basically say like, hey, you know, there's this guy, we we don't know who it is, but there's this guy and he tried to say some things and he got on a lie for it and like >> like making it an example out of Jesus maybe, but like you said, maybe not wanting to say it was Jesus for sure.
You know what I mean?
>> But like you said too, what was going on a lot during that time was like you mentioned Josephus, right? the the scholars say that the part where Josephus says you know this guy and you know even if like shall you call him a man because of you know what what his what he was people said that was interpolated by a later Christian called Eusevius.
>> So there was a lot of this going on like Christians were um taking these historians and then adding on to uh make it seem you know to to go with their narrative but then there's a vice versa where other people could do you know the opposite. So, I think maybe it was a common thing back then or I don't know.
>> That's what And that's what I don't like is cuz I've been like every time I research on any topic with anything to do with ancient history, that's all you find everywhere is just people just lying about everything.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, just no shame in the game.
Just like erasing stuff and adding stuff and like, >> you know, getting rid of stuff. And I'm like, what is this, dude?
But that's the old saying that the the the victors write history, right? Like like the people that that lose in history never never you never really hear about them. So I think that's, >> you know, >> but that just goes to show to to me anyway and like even more why I just don't take any of this stuff seriously. You get what I'm saying? Cuz cuz it's like, okay, there's no record of any of these things happening now, right? in the last like like the last 1400 years.
>> Oh, people tampering evidence or history >> tampering not tampering like uh where like all these religious things are happening like all these uh miraculous things, prophets coming etc. Right. All this crap doesn't happen anymore.
>> And then in the time where it like supposedly was happening, it's just a bunch of people. It's just a bunch of liars and and people who were like, you know what I mean? Just making up it. It looks like to me like what they did was like every possible story that could have ever been written was written.
People were just writing legends at that time.
>> You get what I'm saying?
>> That was a common practice. Yeah. During the Egyptian times as well.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> And I mean, and you could understand why. They didn't have movies, they didn't have TV, they didn't have the internet, they didn't have anything, they didn't have entertainment. So they of course they were just writing stories that they would tell each other. And then what looks like what happened is there's over time the stories that maybe kind of let's say you wrote a story right let's say you wrote a story it's all made up >> but then over time >> that story became popular and let's say it also somehow coincidentally ended up like like you almost like low-key prophesied something by mistake >> then that story would kind of catch on and people would build on that story over time. I feel like that's kind of how they did these things. You get what I mean?
>> I mean, I could see that happening. Like you said, people will will take on stories and and then like, you know, like you said, depending on how the story is, it'll catch fire and keep going. And >> yeah, that is true. Things were different. Things were a lot different.
Like you said, back then, you have to look at in the lens of like ancient, you know.
>> And people look in the comments, look, Bonds is saying that's why Star Wars is a religion today. That's a perfect example.
Star Wars is a movie we like it's an official movie made by a specific person, a specific author like about about that about that about that story.
>> But then people have taken that and they write like I always talk about fanfiction, right? They write fanfiction off of >> where they go off the off of the the main plot and they go, "Okay, maybe this one side character side character in the movie that maybe he did one or two things, they they write a whole story about him."
>> You get what I'm saying? Yeah.
>> And that's literally what Islam did with Ishmael.
>> You know what I'm saying?
>> That's true.
>> They just they took the Star Wars of G of Jews, right? And then because in the Bible it just talks about Ishmael. He was born. He's going to be a crazy man, whatever.
>> And he just goes off into obscurity, right? And then you don't you don't hear about him too much.
>> Well, Islam says, "Okay, well, that's our character. We're going to make a whole fanfiction about him and a prophet coming from his lineage." You get what I'm saying? That's all that it is. It's just >> It just seems like it's obvious to me. I don't like >> Yeah. No, no, I hear that, man. And honestly, I'll be I'll be completely transparent here, man. I was I was talking to a guy I don't know if you seen him, like Christ before Jesus guy on TikTok. He's like a mythicist.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> And bro, I I went in there like, you know, like I don't know if these guys have a good argument. Yeah. And bro, you know what? He had some arguments. Like I looked into it and I went into a little bit of a crisis, man. Honestly, on my belief in Jesus.
>> Mhm. I was like, man, it's not it's not as clear-cut. There's no archaeological evidence other than the shroud, which is like, you know, still being debated on.
>> Yeah.
>> And the accounts outside of the Bible, there's no like there's no one in the time of Jesus that wrote about Jesus.
There's like, you know, 40, 50, 60 years like Josephus, Tacitus, and a lot of them were interp inter interpolated into. So, I'm like, man, I started to think myself like, if if God really did leave this book, why didn't he leave more stronger evidence for it? like why wouldn't why didn't why why wouldn't the shroud be real you know I don't know then I just I go into a rabbit hole >> and and the thing is like it's the same thing with Muhammad like you don't have any the earliest biography of Muhammad is like a hundred years after his life >> or maybe more yeah around there it's all these things are and so that's why it just looks like these are just >> myths or legends that just kind of you know just they picked up over time and and >> you know and people even say like Muhammad is they said it might not even been a name. It's just been been a title, right? And I look at that and I'm like to me that seems very plausible because >> it's just like Caesar, right? I don't know about you, but when I was a little kid and growing up and every time I heard Caesar, I thought Caesar was a guy.
>> I thought that was somebody.
>> Yeah. Like the the Caesar of Rome or something like that.
>> Oh, right. Right. Yeah. I kind of had an idea it was an emperor.
>> You get what I'm saying? In my mind, I thought it was just one guy named Caesar, but then it ended up being Caesar's title. It's is the title of the of the emperor and all the all the emp >> Oh, so it's not a name of an emperor.
>> No.
>> Oh, [ __ ] I'm learning something, too.
>> I thought that was an actual guy, too.
>> Mhm.
>> So, interesting.
>> So, that's the thing I'm saying. So when I think about Muhammad, Muhammad could have just been the name of the of the all the like the big leaders in in Arabia because it just means the praised one.
>> You get what I'm saying?
>> What is this guy? Yeah. What is this guy putting a picture over here?
>> Is he trolling down there?
>> Who?
>> I will.
>> I will. What is he saying? Celestial phenomenon over number.
>> No, no. The his his picture on on the on the panel is like a like a skeleton of I don't see it.
>> Two in there. Or Oh, he's just showing his picture up there. Yeah.
>> Where are you guys seeing pictures?
People can show pictures.
>> Yeah, they put a picture on the panel like underneath my p underneath my picture.
>> Oh. Oh, the guy beneath you. Okay.
>> The green screen.
>> I don't know what that is, >> but it's like a It looks like a little skeleton of something.
>> UFOs. Aliens. Those are the Roswell aliens.
>> Oh [ __ ] That's another one, bro.
>> Yeah. Did you see that, dude? The freaking aliens coming out now, dude.
Did you see the one that looks like it's a It's like a [ __ ] looks like a damn like I don't know, like a >> There's different versions, right?
>> Something made with like a gyroscope.
Like, did you see You didn't see it?
>> Yeah, I mean, I saw it. It was on Fox News, right? They put like a >> I saw it on I saw it on I think Where did I see it? Oh, no. I was watching Asmin Gold. Uh I don't know where he was watching it, but >> yeah, >> it just looked like a star. Like a like a like a little star like but like perfectly I don't know. It was just weird. It looked fake as hell. I'm like how is this released by the by the CIA or whoever the hell?
>> So that's another thing, bro. That's the last thing I'll say on this history thing, right? It's like I told you. I think right you know a lot of things that we we get to see are we we don't know we I I just think we don't know what what is really behind everything like in a sense like what well what we're the evidence that we get >> Mhm. It's just controlled like you know it's like they control that you know they control that. So that's why I think like I I think we'll never know. We'll never know a lot of things.
>> That's what I'm saying exactly what you just said. There's a there's so much right like even just say scientifically that we don't know. Right.
>> Right. So whoever does the science for those things they could just lie to us.
>> You never know.
>> Exactly.
>> You know what I mean?
>> That's what calmed me down on the on the evidence of Jesus. Right. because there could be evidence that we just we they they can't give out to to the public because it it'll you know I don't know it'll do something it'll cause a you know >> would know by the amount of push back from the governments. So like for example when they had their scientific team analyze the first two remains that were recovered they said they were fake.
Two >> remains of what?
>> They didn't say bring any evidence to claim that they were fake. Okay, just >> we're not talking about you talking about aliens.
>> Yeah, for the first two remains that >> I know. I know, but we're not talking about aliens, bro. This is a religious show.
>> Well, that's why it matters.
>> Everything in religion pertains from information came from what? People from the sky, dude.
>> All right.
>> You got to connect the dots one day.
>> I know, brother.
>> When's that going to be for you? I'm just not.
>> Is it going to be the alien bodies or is it going to be the scout?
>> Aliens are real. Okay, no problem. All right.
>> Okay.
>> Do you understand why that shows up?
>> Hold on a second. Oh, what' you say?
>> Man on a mission.
>> Man on a mission.
Okay. So, do you understand why this UFO thing is such a big deal now?
>> Jesus.
>> And why it comes up in >> How the hell are there two of you? Are you guys like following each other to different >> Here's why it's a big deal, man. It means no more via slavery corporation.
>> The [ __ ] Nobody cares, dude. What the [ __ ] I just told you I don't want to talk about that. He's like, he's like, "Have you heard about my lord and savior alien from outer space?"
>> Dude, stop. I don't want to talk about aliens, bro. What is wrong with >> can't be sure about either what what is real? What's not real in that too?
You know what's funny about that is I I had a like low-key alien um encounter when I was a kid, me and my sister. And I I I remember growing up and then like remembering it and then I was like maybe I was imagining that as a kid and then me and my sister one time like in our like later years when we became adults, she brought it up. She was like, "Hey, do you remember that one thing that happened with the" And I was like, "Wait, I was like, "Wait, that was real?" And she was like, "Yeah, the hell we were both there." And I was like, "Oh shit."
>> And so I don't know what to believe about it, man. It is crazy.
>> Me neither.
>> You know, and that's why I'm trying to tell these guys. Like, I'm not trying to shut you guys down, guys. You guys are probably on to something, but it's just not what the show is about, dude. I'm not going to talk about aliens right now. Like, you look at the prompt. It says, "Caffer answers your questions about Islam, and you guys want to come up and talk about aliens."
>> Caffer, >> like, have some respect for the caffers, bro. What the hell?
>> Yeah. You got stay You got to stick to the topic, bro.
Dude, I didn't come in.
>> He said he's not gonna talk about aliens.
>> Well, let's see. Let's see.
>> I was asking a question.
>> And if you listen, >> if you listen, I have an answer that is more than what the alien thing is. What I'm trying to point out is the reason is that it comes up is because what we're dealing with is a human need for an >> something that is in our psyche. It's in our >> I don't think >> DNA.
>> I think >> it's called it's called it's called the need for transcendent >> okay. Would you not talk over me?
>> Shut the hell up, dude. These dudes are psycho, bro.
This dude's like the human need. I don't have that, dude. What are you talking about? Talk about yourself.
>> Why is everybody talking about transcendence?
>> Yeah. Like I don't have no need for transcendence. I'm I'm chilling right where I'm at. The hell are you talking about transcendence? You have that.
Clearly, you have that. That's fine. You have it. I don't have it.
I don't the thing that gets to me the most is like I don't understand why people can't just have their own experience in this life and just judge this life from what they see with their own two eyeballs. Like I don't get that.
>> Like >> that's how it should be though, >> right? Like what if this is all there is? You know what I mean? Like what if God made this planet like this the way that you the way that your last week has been, right? Maybe that's how it is. How about that? You know, and I'm not saying that God doesn't exist. I I believe in God, >> right? I just don't I just don't think it goes much further than than like what I could see basically.
>> But then there there is an afterlife, I'm guessing, in your paradigm.
>> I don't know. I don't like how could I know that? You get what I'm saying? I hope there is because I look at it and I say >> it would be kind of weird for for for this to be all of it, right? because if it's such a powerful all powerful God or whatever that he he could do something much greater than this I'm a zoom in >> but it's still just a guess it's still just a guess you know and and for me it's like >> I have so much that I could do here and so many things I could accomplish here though it's like why am I going to focus on the afterlife you know what I'm saying it's like >> yeah that's true >> when for me it's just it doesn't go much further than like if there is an afterlife the the best way to probably get there is to just be a good person as much as possible right It doesn't have to be overly complicated.
>> That's why I don't understand the Muslims. That's why I like because Muslims make it sound like >> well, how could you possibly know what to do every day if if you don't have a book telling you like what the [ __ ] are you talking about?
>> No, you don't I don't think you need you don't need a book. Like you said, like intuition and common sense and and like in like learning from people like I think that's there's there's like 80% right there. Maybe I don't know what the other 20% will be, but >> right like like you know you you're going to want to eat food, you're going to want to so you're going to need to work, right? And then you're going to need to get along with people so that you're not constantly in chaos.
>> Those things are pretty easy to figure out.
>> You get what I'm saying?
>> Yeah.
>> I just, you know, maybe what that other guy is saying is true for maybe that is for Do you feel that way, Neil? what that guy said like this need >> what >> for like transcendence and like and like to get >> I don't know like do you have this gap in your soul that's like making you question >> that you have >> to transcend >> like yeah like like to where like you're like I don't know like this can't be it has to be more it has to be more like do you feel that way?
>> Um not really I kind of like you I think like if if what I think it's like we'll cross that we'll cross that bridge when we get there. I I don't think there's anything like uh that I'm going to be able to know now. And and I think like you like a lot of people think God is um uncomprehendable. So I'm just I think I'm wasting my time trying to understand or or know.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And >> I think about it once in a while, but >> Right. Right. And I think we've all go we've all gone down the rabbit hole.
>> Yeah. Exactly.
>> Point in time, right?
>> But then you go so far and you realize like you're like, damn, this is this is this is too much. this is like out of my like what am I supposed to do with this?
>> You know what I mean? And then you >> it gets to a point where it's unhealthy where you stop living and you just you don't enjoy the moment and you're like you're constantly staying up at night thinking about it. I think like you said if you think about it for once in a while and you come to the conclusion that you'll never know until you find out and and and you just leave it at that.
>> But I don't know.
>> That's why for me it's just It's just everything's just about Islam at this point because I feel like that's interesting enough for me, but it's also something that like I can kind of have an effect on, you know, enough of an effect to where I feel somewhat useful.
>> You get what I'm saying?
>> But like going beyond that to like I don't know the Epstein files or like who's running the world that that's that's too much. which I can't there's nothing I could do about that part. You get what I'm saying?
>> No, there's I agree. There's nothing there's nothing weak at all any of us uh you know normal citizens here um that we can do. But we could I mean you could share your opinions and say hey this is what I think. But I think at the end of the day like I tell my wife if someone tells me that like they act like they know or they they go oh because I see this on the news or because I whatever I'm like I'm sorry like we we don't know. Unless you're like some kind of guy that has like you know that kind of uh you know connections, but I don't think you'd be talking to me about it.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't think I don't think like someone that that knows that would ever mention it to to me. So I think it's just >> just kind of like the Talmud just just everyone debating.
>> What does this guy want me to read?
Elvis, what are you trying to get me to reread? Moose not Akmad 16245 one time.
How could we live without this info?
Okay, let's see. This should be interesting.
I feel like I've read that before. That looks familiar.
See Musnad 245 is a narration attributed to MiBufyan.
states I saw the messenger piece of bomb sucking the tongue.
Let me see what it says here.
He said, "How could we live without?"
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out There were some topics that I wanted to talk about today, but there's I didn't really land on anything for sure. So see this gives us an idea.
So Musad Musad Amar is a is attributed to Ma Ma Ib Abi Sufyan in it he states I saw the messenger of Allah peace be upon him sucking the tongue of the lips or the lips of al-Hassan bin Ali.
Oh man, this is the type of stuff. Like I'm like what is this dude? And he said no tongue or lips that the prophet peace be upon him sucked will be tormented by hellfire. That's beautiful.
What do we do with that? I don't >> second.
>> Sometimes sometimes when I read those things I'm just like >> yo >> what's up uh bridge? My bad for cutting you off. Uh what's up, bro?
>> No, nothing much, man. We just we just uh >> Why, bro? Why do you Bro, you always be on Word Actions Live looking like you be [ __ ] stalking us, bro. What do you got a problem with us for? Leave us alone, bro. Like, we don't even we don't even care about y'all weirdos.
>> You spying on you, bro.
>> Like, we don't we really genuinely do not care about none of you guys. We already understand our truth and we were sticking to our truth. We don't care what you guys got to say about us or nothing. You do know that, right? All you guys are doing is wasting time.
Like, get out of here with this [ __ ] bro.
>> Like, first of all, why are you so emotional about it?
>> Yeah, you, >> bro. It's just It's just like, bro, we're humans, bro. Like, why do you got to be stalking us and [ __ ] Like, like, stay in your lane, bro. Just believe in hire your own knowledge and your own Christ [ __ ] Spread your own Christ.
Spread your own truth. Why you spread Why you trying to like falsify Islam all the time and stuff like that, bro? You think that's healthy?
>> I I don't really >> Why do you care so much?
>> I don't Yeah, I don't really think you're even asking me anything. So, >> no, I think you're just obsessed with it. That's why you just might as well become Muslim then, weird ass dude.
Like, like for real, you got a problem.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Give that little Give that little Yeah. Whatever that noise is, >> bro. Why does it bother you if someone's in your lives just listening? Like, what do you like?
>> It's not even about that, bro. the fact that he be in everybody's lives on everybody's Muslim lives checking out what they got to say, collecting his data, collecting his information, going back to his lives, then talking [ __ ] on it. He thinks he got some he don't got nothing, bro. He He don't got nothing on us. He's weak.
>> That's why he believes in his own little man god. And that's why one day when Allah literally judges him, he going to be sused out.
>> Yo, how do you pretend to >> You thought you lived in You thought you lived in an anime You thought you lived in an anime world, but you really didn't, huh? You thought you were Naruto up in that [ __ ] How How do you How do you act like you know so much about me but you don't even know that I'm not a Christian? How do you not even know that yet?
>> Yeah, you're an esoteric Christian. Get out of here, bro.
>> THEN WHY DO YOU SIT DOWN AND ATTACK ISLAM THEN? THAT DON'T EVEN MAKE SENSE.
>> YEAH. Can you spell esoteric?
>> That's why he doesn't have to spell it.
But brother, look, why can't you just see that I think Islam is a problem?
What's like if that's my conclusion?
What's the problem, dude? But how though? When it targets, >> I don't have nothing against I don't have nothing against you as a person or anything.
>> No, I know. I don't got nothing against you too. I don't got nothing against you too. That's the thing. But that's the thing, bro. Like, don't you think at an institutional level there's problems obviously at an institutional level with this stuff. Like, there's no doubt about it. There's corruption when it comes.
There's all forms of corruption and stuff like that. And you you basically are against the very thing that targets the very institutions that are basically involved in the sex trafficking [ __ ] that's going on. you're over here. Look, I'm actually glad you brought this up because this is this is something I've been thinking about a lot, right? Cuz I I I do see, >> how can we put this? All right, let's just let's just pretend for a moment that I believe this nonsense that the Jews run the world and they're like they make porn and and they're the ones doing the the Epstein and all this stuff.
>> It's true.
>> Let's just pretend that that's true, right? Let's just pretend that that's like really how easily how simple the world works. Okay. Yeah, Islam would be a good response to that. And then also, let's also take this the this the point that um Ed, I'm going let you up, but just let me let me get this out. Let's also take the point of view that um you know, the world is headed in the wrong direction because we got the T genders and we got you know, women acting like um like they don't have a father basically.
Let's put it that way.
um and men not acting how they're supposed to act. Yeah, Islam is also a good response for that. The problem that I have though is that there's a couple of things and I we talk about this all the time that I just can't get on board with.
>> You get what I'm saying? And that's that's why I always talk about Islam because I see the danger in Islam because it does address so many of the things that men especially are looking for to be addressed. But then there's just a couple things that I think that are are just absolutely wrong. And I don't think that >> I don't think that we have to accept those few wrong things just just to get those other things.
>> That's what I'm saying.
>> I agree with you.
>> If you don't mind, let me let me clear something up real quick.
>> Hold on, Bridge. Hold on. I came up >> What? What happened? He does. Hold on.
Let her get out real quick. What happened to >> I can't stay very long. I have to go to my shift of controlling the media in a second, but I just wanted to come up as a representative of the Jewish community and say you're welcome, Bridge, for all the corn.
>> I'm Palestinian, so I don't I don't support >> the corn that you're enjoying. You're welcome for that.
>> Uh yeah, that's disgusting. I'm actually I don't watch porn, so thank you very much. You're disgusting minded weirdo.
>> Uh-huh. Yeah, sure.
>> All right. All right. All right. Go ahead. Go ahead.
>> Have a good one.
>> Go ahead, Rich. Thank you.
>> Uh, so yes, I agree with you. And I think that me as a Muslim, right?
I would not ever uh implement the specific Sharia that's going on in Saudi. I think I would liberalize it and I would be I would make it more secular to the secular class and more understanding and more open-minded to the human uh race. Yeah. Yeah.
>> But the thing is though, wait, you got to understand my position though. My uh Bro, TAKE THAT N KHALIFA [ __ ] OFF, BRO.
What the hell?
>> You said you don't watch it.
>> Everybody know who that [ __ ] is back in 2006, man. Get out of here.
>> Oh [ __ ] >> Go ahead, Br.
>> But you you your Takia is not working.
You said you don't watch.
>> Let him go. Let him go. No, he sounds sincere. He sounds sincere cuz cuz he's he I don't know about him watching porn but he's saying that he would >> hell no >> he would want to reform he would want to reform the even the Saudi >> but he said that he does the Saudis are all Zionist bro the Saudis are the Saudis are Zionist too that's what you guys don't understand >> Wait hold on is that your only problem I thought you were going to better than that that's your only problem >> British British colonizer uh Zionism that happened in the 1800s it's a big plan the big agenda you said you want to reform their Sharia though.
>> I do I want to secularize. I want to I want to make it uh uh more understanding more understanding from a position um that is more aimed >> Give us your give us your uh your version of it. What would your version look like?
>> Yes, I would I would try to build it off of the Constitution. I think the Constitution already has some good principles about freedoms and law.
>> Yes, I think it does. I think that the problem that you're not seeing with with >> Oh, you want to bring Guys, guys, let him talk. this guy.
Look, guys, look, please. I I I know that we always come on here and we always think we're enemies and stuff, but this guy's being very reasonable >> and he's bringing >> That's what I'm saying. I [ __ ] with the dude, bro. Like, I like the dude. Like, chill out, bro. We got nothing against each other. Like, I love the dude. If anything, >> I'm just asking you a question.
>> No, guys, just let him talk, bro. Let him talk.
>> Go ahead. So what I the way I look at it is like basically for my position is that I look at Sharia law as more of the thing that's targeting the instit the very institutions that are lowering our consciousness keeping us in a lower realm of vibrations and lower realm of degeneracy the things the go machine you get what I'm saying not necessarily that it's made by the Jews but it's that it's made it's it's systemized and made by a specific group of people in order to keep us dumbed down and indoctrinated by our specific uh materialistic nature and our anim animalistic nature, right? And I think that they're not teaching us the right things in school. I don't think I think there needs to be a reconstruction of all this [ __ ] All this shit's deceiving everything, bro. And I'm telling you, they they taught history wrong. That's why history is his story, >> cuz all this shit's [ __ ] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> But what makes mo what makes the most sense logically in my brain is that there's one God that exists, that is all good, that is all powerful. I don't get into the like all the I understand where the hadith can get crazy and out of hand sometimes. I understand that. But you got to look at it from a logical perspective. What religion would you choose if you were actually logical?
That's the perspective I'm coming from.
>> Yeah. Have you seen this story? Have you seen this story right here, Bridge?
>> Uh, go ahead. What is it?
>> So, Mammud Mammud Muhammad Taha, this is a guy that lived in uh Sudan, right? He was executed by hanging, right, for apostasy.
But he didn't he didn't apo he didn't say I don't believe in Islam or I don't want to be a Muslim or nothing. His what he wanted to do was what you're saying.
He wanted a modern inclusive reinterpretation of Islam.
And and the way he did it was not even just making anything new. All he said was like, "Hey guys, we got the Mecca, we got the Meccauras, right, which are a little bit more peaceful, and we got the Medina suras, which are a little bit more violent." Only thing he was saying, he's like, "Can we go back to the Meccaura time period? Like, can we just go practice that?" And he and they they hung him for apostasy for that. That's evil. See, that's evil right there, bro.
I'm tell I would never implement that.
You see, the Saudis are evil. All these people that you and Egypt, too. Look, all these countries that are owned by quote unquote Muslims, right? These people will unalive you in their own country and get if you do [ __ ] like this, bro. That [ __ ] is not right. These people are not true Muslims, bro.
>> Right. But but the reason why I bring this up is because >> unfortunately the way I see it is like people like you and a lot of my friends even in America that are Muslim, I think that they have this version of Islam in their head that is a little bit it's a little bit >> like overly romanticized, overly like like >> it's called dogmatic. It's called dogmatic fundamentalism.
>> No. So what people opposite I mean the opposite. I mean I mean like the people who are like you who are like who are basically saying like yes we can use Islam to fix the world. Like >> that's not the real Islam. Unfortunately that's what I'm trying to explain to you. Like like you're saying we can take Islam and make it inclusive when by nature Islam is exclusive.
>> I get what you're saying. Yeah.
It's like you can't It's like why try Why try to start with something that's already halfway broken?
>> Let's just start over.
>> You get what I'm saying?
>> So, you're saying bring >> Yeah, but I don't think we're at the time to create new religions. I think we're at an esqueological point of view right now. Everything is headed towards a specific narrative and a specific uh you know uh kind of way.
>> That's the other problem is that this is exactly what you're saying is right. The Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims have all decided we're gonna go. We're all going to go flying, crashing towards each other until we basically end the world.
>> Yeah, that's what Allah says. I mean, that's the duality in nature though, bro.
>> Can we chill out? Like, we don't have to.
>> Yeah, but that is the duality in nature though. If you understand how life works and how coloniz colonization works and the past, the history of mankind and tribalism, all these different things, you would understand that these things occur because of the human psychological phenomenon. That's the nature of us within us. Animalist, our anim animalistic nature.
>> But you don't think you don't think bridge that. How you doing?
>> What's up, guys? You don't think that there's a possibility that Islam could be holding us back a little bit?
>> I think all religions is a possibility that they could be holding us back.
>> I agree and I agree with you, which is why I'm not a religious person. But what I'm saying is like, you know, especially in Islam, they specifically have this thing where they say we have to follow the sunnah of the prophet Muhammad. You get what I'm saying? And what's Yeah.
Yeah. Peace be upon him.
>> Yeah. What's the sun? I get what you're saying. Unfortunately, it's a bunch of seven century stuff. He wasn't even like a like a you know what I mean like a huge reformer of like what people used to do. He pretty much just took what they were already doing and and turned it into a religion, you know, pol that's a whole different and and you know, marrying kids and war crimes, >> necrophilia, >> necrilia, like all we don't believe in that.
>> That's forget. You get you going great.
You going for point to point. So you got to chill out. So So what I believe first off, I think that there is literal dogmatic fundamentalists in Islam that they take it too literal. They take the scripture too literal and they they basically turn into Wahhabi extremists like the people in Saudi basically. Like you got to understand this stuff. This stuff is like it's well driven into all these religions. There's Christians that do that. There's Buddhists that do all of these religions have that bro. But what I'm telling you though is that it basically bro uh if you look at it from my perspective on a universal perennial perspective, right? This is the scope under one god only. And all nations can understand this one god and this hierarchical system that is very more logical than the capitalistic system that they have right now. The capitalistic system is sucking us dry.
Bro, look at our economy. What I'm telling you is that they're >> Yeah. Yeah. What I'm saying is I I could totally get behind if it if Islam was just, hey, let's believe in God and and let's be basically like have conservative values, I would be on board, too.
You get what I'm saying?
>> I think but I think you know another thing is I don't think people understand that Islam is not looking to do that. I think Islam holds a duality perspective that there is going to be evil versus good in the world that there's always going to be this non-believer type of narrative that's always going to be on the other side of things. So Islam doesn't say oh we going to be the truth.
We going to be you know what I'm saying?
We going to come spread to the whole world. Islam doesn't say that. Islam say no. Hold on. It says it says enter. No no entering in every household does not mean that. Can I show you a verse? No.
Entering in every household does not mean that, bro. Can I show you a verse?
>> Hold on, brother. It literally says in the Quran, "Fight those who do not believe in Allah." That's literally >> that's in situational context in the seventh century Arabia. The way >> brother, but look, where are you?
>> He got sent down scriptures and literally revelations in literally parts of the uh years. What are you talking about? That's literally talking about situations and people that he was trying to bring about Islam in the seventh century Arabia. It's not talking about now, bro. There's a difference between a universal >> bridge. But what's making you think right what you just said? What's making you think that that commandment is only for that time? What's making you think that?
Because if you look at the the prophet's life, the way he got the the like the revelation sent down to him and the periods of like the span of 23 years and how it works, you would not you would understand it from that perspective, from Muhammad's perspective, not from a uh like a universal perspective because you would know in the scripture when God's talking about universally or he's not talking universally. He's talking about something in context.
>> Brother says, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead, Leo. Hold I want to ask him bridge you know the the most important part of of the Quran where Muhammad gets this message in the cave do how how do you you just take it off of faith because there's no outside there's nothing outside of that out of the other than the Quran that that makes you say okay well this is the truth right and and that's the problem for me right because I look at Christianity and there's things outside of Christianity that that cooperate with it so it's not only one narrative you have other narratives right so that's where I look at as a critical thinker like how do we know Muhammad really encountered an angel?
How do we know this for for a fact you know and it's >> yeah but you have to understand the linguistic definition of Islam brother.
So you have to understand that the the very definition of Islam is a universal uh message. It's not necessarily about following 7th century Arabia standards.
This is about something that's universal that transcends that. So what what I'm talking about is the core theological principle of understanding that one true divine creator. That's what Islam comes to teach. It makes the most sense in that way.
>> And I agree. I agree with you. And it's what scary says a lot, right? If it were just believing in one God and there were things that were, you know, that made sense and and I'll be like, "Okay, cool.
I get behind it." But then there's a lot more to it, right? There's a lot of Arabic uh propaganda into it. Like you you can't get into heaven unless you speak Arabic. You have to follow God.
That's not true. It's about the heart of all creation.
>> It's about the heart, bro. That's not true. That's that's it's about the heart. the the language model that God expresses is in Arabic, but it doesn't mean that Arabic is what he's trying to rely to. You have to understand the Quran doesn't speak in that. It's the language that it expresses in the language model that you have to understand in order to understand what God's saying. It's not about Arabic because God could have chose any other language. It don't matter about that.
It's a language model, bro.
>> If you don't speak Arabic, you can't get into heaven, >> bro. That's not true. It's about the heart. It's Allah says it's not the eyes that are blind. It's the heart. So you think that he cares about what you BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW ARABIC. I DON'T myself >> I don't know Arabic but I pray five times a day.
>> Yeah, you have to. But >> you said you're Palestinian five times a day.
>> Listen listen I did it. I Okay, I know.
>> Sounds that doesn't sound supremacist to you a little bit.
>> No, not really. Cuz Arabic is a universal language. If you study the etmology of these words, universal English probably but that's probably because you're Arabic. Because I'm not Arabic.
That's super offensive for some reason.
I don't know your history though.
English English is Anglo-Saxon. That shit's made up by men. They literally created it from different languages.
>> Okay, whatever. Then I can speak Spanish. But my point is like why?
>> OKAY, SPANISH IS LITERALLY TAKEN FROM ARABIC. WE SAY gama jabalon. That's the same [ __ ] THEY TOOK IT FROM US. What are you talking about, bro?
>> Regardless, why would I ever let some other person tell me what language I have to talk to my god in?
>> It's not about that, bro.
>> That's like being a religious couck.
I get what your point is, but brother, it's like language is not necessarily something that you have to like take so serious.
>> And when I look at that, to me, it looks like like Islam basically came to just be Arabic propaganda and to like they're just Arab supremacists.
>> What are we? You're tripping, bro. What do you mean? Jesus spoke Aramaic. Jesus spoke Aramaic. What are you talking about, bro?
>> But Jesus never used the same type of language that that >> So now you're conflating the two. This is about This is about race. Hear what I'm saying. Here what I'm saying. Jesus could have spoke Aramaic, right? Jesus Jesus would have Jesus is a Jew, but his message had nothing to do with those two things. His message didn't have anything to do with like, oh, you need to be Jewish or or you need to dress like a Jew or you need to grow your beard like a Jew or you need to talk like a Jew.
>> Yeah. Cuz we believe in co we believe in covenantal change.
>> He didn't say that the that the the Torah in heaven is is written in Hebrew.
He didn't talk about like these things.
But when you look at Muhammad, everything was about the Arabs. He took >> We believe in covenants.
>> He took like, think about, this is the part that's weird to me, right? God's house on earth, which even the Muslims agreed was originally Jerusalem.
>> And and he said, "You know what? We're going to move it. We're going to change the direction of prayer now to be in in in Saudi Arabia."
>> Mecca.
>> In Mecca.
>> Yeah. No issue. That's beautiful.
>> Of course.
>> That unifies us as a brotherhood. That unifies us. Well, why can't it be in Puerto Rico?
>> Well, if it was in Puerto if it was in Puerto Rico, you would have been like you would have been like, "Why wasn't IT IN SAUDI?" LIKE, WHY DOES IT matter about the location?
>> That's what I'm saying. It's easy to say, "Why does it matter when it's your favorite spot?" You get what I'm saying?
>> I get what you're saying, brother. But see, this is the thing, though, bro. You You have to understand something, right?
Like, >> and then you got to explain it to basically you looking at it.
>> Every every land had a had a had a messenger.
>> Where's Puerto Rico's messenger at?
>> You know what I'm saying? Like, we want a Puerto Rican >> because history is diluted, brother. You can't get to history like that.
>> We want a Puerto Rican messenger that makes you speak in Puerto Rican.
>> You get what I'm saying? Your five daily Puerto Rican prayers and you got to eat some some some plantains every time you pray. Like, you get what I'm saying?
Like, that's what I'm >> Okay, listen. Listen. If you study, okay, if you study Islam, listen, listen, listen, brother, bridge, >> scary hour, scary talk. Let me finish one thing. Let me finish one thing. Let me I'm going to let him talk. If you study Islam, right, in the seventh century Arabia, and you would actually study these things and these laws, you would actually and you study today's versus today's society and what's going on with the degeneracy and stuff and compare it, you would totally understand why we need the five daily prayers, why we need all these different things.
Because these things in society, if modern society, this is such a trap if you actually think about it to the point where we actually need to have these five daily prayers. We actually need to start fasting. We need actually start to need to start doing these things cuz this whole thing is a spiritual trap, bro. So what do you think about this is all materialism, egocentric [ __ ] >> Look, I don't have any problem with you saying that, right? All you're talking about is having discipline and creating a system for yourself, right? That's no no issues. Yeah, but societyy's so led off the [ __ ] panel or the the path right now that it's so it's become so degenerate that it needs stuff like that. Like what are you it needs discipline. It needs structure.
>> Yeah. My my issue is like I said like I said guys, there's plenty of good stuff that I see in Islam, but there's just enough bad stuff that I could never sign up for.
>> But everything that's good is copied.
>> Yeah. and everything that I that you just said, right? Like having this structure and whatever whatever I could just read a Jordan Peterson book.
>> Okay. But what you're describing is tribalistic animalistic behavior that humans have always done before Islam. So you're telling me that you won't fight for your truth? You don't fight for and claim your truth whenever it comes to you and it comes and it comes in detail precisely preservation.
>> We can fight but that doesn't mean I'm going to take your >> You tell me you haven't fought for your truth. You haven't became the man you've become today without fighting for it.
>> We can definitely fight but that You don't go to the gym. You don't fight internally. You don't go to the gym every day and you don't fight internally. Yes.
>> Exactly. That's what I'm talking about.
We fight for truth here.
>> But that doesn't mean I have the right to take your wife as a sex slave.
>> That's not true, bro. We don't do that.
No. That's seventh century Arabia standards. That's completely It says it quite clearly.
>> Let's refute it. Let's review it. Bring it up. Let's review it right now. Stop blanking claims and let's bring it up.
>> Let's Let's Let's talk about it.
>> Let's talk about the Yazidis and the victims of October 7 that were subjugated to sexual bringing up the vict October 7. Get out of here.
>> Yesterday we did a political talk. I don't want to do that today.
>> Don't even get me started on what Israel has done to the Palestinian babies and bomb churches and mosques. Get out of here with that [ __ ] Bomb at hospitals. You got no right to damn talk. Get out of here. Who the hell bombs hospitals? Israel's evil. [ __ ] out of here. Then blaming it on Hamas. We don't even want to get talk. We don't even get it started on that [ __ ] But come on. Go ahead.
>> Here.
Oh prophet, indeed we have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due complex.
>> Where does it say rape? Where does it say rape?
>> All right. Hold on a second.
>> Is this guy real?
>> Who's talking right now?
>> I I L Y S. Yes. Down there.
>> Let me drop him. We're not going to play dumb today, guys. Uh, like normally I go and entertain these these stupid things, but I'm not going to play dumb today.
Let's just let's just be adults here, okay? Oh prophet, indeed we have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their due compensation, and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you of the captives.
>> Wait, >> and the word in Arabic, if you know, do you know, do you speak Arabic, Ahmed?
Uh so uh it it says the word which means what your right hand possesses. This particular verse is telling you that you can actually have schmecks with your slave girls.
>> Bro, let can you let up? I actually don't even know how to respond to this one. I ain't going to lie. I'm going to be honest with you.
>> If you think this is worse, show them 65 verse4.
>> No. No. Hold on. Where where's No, no, it's fine, guys. It's fine. Like, we don't have to play dumb. Like, all the scholars like look, let's go to the scholar. Look, this is >> Yeah, they don't they don't they don't disagree.
>> We don't have to complicate this. This is very simple. Okay, look, this is very And there's hadith. What's the hadith that there's one hadith where the the companions said we were sleeping with them, but we used to pull out >> the quotas interrupt us. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That What's the hadith for that? Can somebody find that real quick while I >> Yeah, but slavery already existed before the 17th century. That was it. It doesn't matter about the problem.
>> That was common though. Understand?
>> Yeah. But a prophet of God doesn't come to abreate slavery. He comes to abolish it, brother. He doesn't come to He doesn't come to treat them better and give them roses while he's How could you even abolish slavery? That don't even make sense. That That's hard to do.
That's like you you asking a man to abolish a whole system. Like what is he Abraham Lincoln? Get out of here with that [ __ ] >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. So you're telling me >> You tell me Abraham Lincoln?
>> Wait. So you're telling me? Wait. So, you're telling me that God could come to a city where they were worshiping like 300 something gods and he could get rid of all of that, but he can't get them to stop having >> Oh, he can fly. Oh, he can get his prophet to fly on a horse through the seven heavens, but he can't stop he can't stop slavery. He just he just has to make know how to answer that. That's a weird You know what? You know what Arabs do? You know what Arabs do?
>> Guys, guys, guys. All right. So, let's not get too complicated again. So, Bridge, this is the part where I'm trying to tell you, right? This is the type of stuff I can't get on board with.
>> You get what I'm saying?
>> You acting like you act like Islam created sexual slavery though.
>> It doesn't matter if they created it, brother.
>> You get what I'm saying? Like I can't get on board with this. I can't have Muhammad be my ethical standard when he did stuff like this.
>> What did he do though? He didn't even if I if I So so now what you're saying is okay now in order for me to believe in one God which I do already.
>> Now you're saying I also have to attach my name to this now >> for what? I don't want to I don't want to be associated with this.
>> Yeah, but why don't you have you done the phys the the physical uh and actually the experiential part where you actually pray and put your head on the floor? Have you done that?
>> Yeah. Why why the [ __ ] does that matter?
That was pre-Islam. Yeah, but but Islam is experiential.
So you go by the foot.
>> Let me get possessed by the gyms of Muhammad.
>> Let me speak.
>> Let me pray and get possessed. Yeah, you've been bro. So all you're saying so all you're saying, Bridge, is that okay.
So in order to pray, I also have to attach my name to this. This I'm not getting over this. There's nothing you could tell me.
>> I got a good way to answer this. Someone answer that.
>> You could even tell me that I will go to heaven right now as long as I say this is okay. And I'm I'm going to say no.
Send me down.
>> Hey host. Hey. See, that's your lack of understanding.
>> You know, you know the you know the prophet >> brother had should I tell you something?
This hadith that you're interpreting bro is incorrect. First of all, the way you interp >> whatever or even even if it's a Quran, you're not interpreting it.
>> Brother, just leave me alone, dude. I'm not entertaining this nonsense today.
You guys are >> You do have to distinct Muslims today cannot have >> Yeah, you need to translate it in French. You said, >> brother. Did anybody find that hadith for me yet where they did the pull out?
I think someone said it today. Why? Why didn't they carry on? Why didn't they carry on?
>> 528.
>> I got I'll pull it up.
>> Why didn't it carry on today? It's a modern society. Because you couldn't because the >> Yeah, because it was a system that wasn't created.
It still does exist today. The crusades.
It still does exist today. It still does exist today. Go on the global slave count and you'll see how many are enslaved right now under the >> I'm abolishing that. I'm going be the first one to abolish that. [ __ ] all that [ __ ] >> No, no, no, no. The Arabs did not abolish it. They said they will never abolish it because it's in their tradition.
>> That's not Bro, I'm Arab. That's not my tradition.
>> Yeah. It doesn't matter what you are. It doesn't >> There's another one. There's another one that's longer than this one. There's one that's longer than this one. This one just talks about only the quitis interrupted.
>> This is the problem with you. The children of the Arabs. Yeah. They they abrogate slavery every guidance, bro. I don't even care. We got >> You keep putting your head to the floor.
Let me let me let me just >> interping Muhammad.
>> When a people go to war, right, and then there's all these um women widowed and children, orphans left behind.
>> Bro, shut the >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't mean that they're forced into marriage.
Darling, >> only a Muslim will look like when we come and kill you and and and then orphans, why would we not take you as sex slaves? like only >> we're going to stroke your hair.
>> This is what we're going to stroke your hair about, bridge. You see that? This is the mentality I'm talking about. This sick twisted mentality that we're talking about.
>> It's called It's called Stockholm syndrome.
>> This is what you guys want us to bring into the 20th century, right?
She just said it. She just said it, >> bro. She's not theory, bro.
>> She said she's not the What? No, you're not the majority. You are the >> I said the authority, dumb ass. Scary.
>> Yeah, you're the anomaly, brother.
You're the anomaly. You're the only Muslim that doesn't think that this should be installed. And that makes you a kafa. That's not true.
>> You don't believe in the >> That's not heretic. That's not heretics.
>> Do you want the Sharia to be installed?
>> Do you want the Sharia to be installed?
>> Stop. Stop letting your ego take over, bro. Hey, hey, if you don't want the Sharia to be installed, then you are a kufur. It doesn't matter. Alhamdulillah.
Alhamdulillah.
>> You wish you wish you had God on your side.
>> This guy said, "Do you pray?" Bro, we we recite better than you. Alhamdulillah, bro. It doesn't matter what you pray.
>> Go ahead. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going.
Brother, we studied this morning. You are in a cult. Yeah. You don't even know the translation of the word. Yeah, that's what I thought. That's why you couldn't keep >> You couldn't keep going cuz you're a coward.
>> We're not reciting the coward.
Everybody, everybody quick. Everybody quick.
>> Sorry for reciting the devil. Sorry.
>> Everybody quick. Let me read this, guys.
Let me read this. Let me give you Let me Let's get some context for that verse.
>> So, this is how that verse came to came to pass, right? The one that we read about right-hand possession. For all you people saying that we're reading it wrong. Oh, Abu S, did you hear Allah's messenger mentioning Alazal? He said yes. He added, "We went out with with Allah's messenger on the expedition to Bill Mustalik and took captive some excellent Arab women. We desired them for we were suffering from the absence of our wives. But at the same time, we also desired to sell them. We desired a ransom for them."
>> So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them, but by observing the azul, which is means withdrawing the male sexual organ before the emission of semen to avoid conception.
Right?
But we said we are doing an act whereas Allah's messenger is among amongst us.
Why not ask him? So we asked Allah's messenger and he said it does not matter if you do it if you do not do it.
Meaning if you do not pull out for every soul that is to be born up to that day of resurrection will be born.
>> Alhamdulillah. Bridge bridge. What do you think of that?
>> Why would I follow this?
>> You know because you're allowed to do what you want. That's why, bro. You know, as a man, you can control the narrative.
>> Bro, get out of here, bro. You think God's going to get away with people that do that, bro?
>> This is This is Muhammad saying this is allowed.
>> No, he's not.
>> That's out of context. Get out of here with that [ __ ] >> I I reading it in German.
>> You [ __ ] You [ __ ] [ __ ] bro.
>> Can you read it in German?
>> Muslim. Muslim.
>> Ain't nobody care. That's had though.
Who cares?
The whole point of Islam is to understand the core theological principles. One God, >> bro, go to this.
>> You believe in one God, don't you?
Scary. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I I don't want to jump too much. Let's Let's just stay here for a little bit.
>> You can't get around this bridge. This is sah Muslim. This >> hadith though. That could be British.
That could be British uh Zionism type [ __ ] >> No, no, no, no, brother. No. Think about this. In in sah. When something as great as sah, >> that means it's the strongest possible chain that you could have. This is the This has the same chains as the Quran.
If this is false, >> this is Sahi Muslim. This is the most authentic book. Isn't the Quran a hadith?
>> Yes, it is. And and it has the chains as well. So if the chains for these these narrations are false, then the Quran is also false.
>> No, it's not.
>> You can't falsify these things.
>> That's not true. You can pick and choose kind of on hadith. I ain't going to cap.
>> Basically, I don't think he knows it's a brother.
So >> the hadith explained the Quran. That's that's how easy >> I know that bro butidge you're telling us that we need explanation bridge maybe he doesn't know this bridge look maybe look bridge >> there are hadith that you can that you don't have to take those are called like daif or weak narrations okay >> when it comes to sah Muslim and sahib bukkari they do not contain okay so then why are you saying that you can you don't have to >> it's like it's like saying me >> y'all don't understand the context of seventh century rainbow that's not my fault you guys got a lack of knowledge That's not my fault. Like what are you guys saying? I don't even care. None of this matters no more. This [ __ ] don't carry universally. It don't carry on universally. So if this guy is not so easy to translate, >> then that means it's confusing you.
>> You think you think the these kind of things I'm going to stay on my five daily prayers? I ain't leaving my five daily prayers. So let me ask you, you don't think these things happen in Muslim countries?
>> My five daily prayers is more important than anything, bro.
>> Yeah, because Muhammad said so. And you have to worship his toenails.
>> Why not? I worship Allah. I don't watch.
>> No, but who do you love more? Who do you love more, Muhammad or your mom?
>> Yeah, but Bridge, why do you think that in order to believe in God, you have to believe in Muhammad? Why? Why? Why?
>> Cuz he's the perfect figure for >> This is perfect right here. This is perfect. What he's telling you right here, this is perfect.
>> He didn't tell us to do nothing. What are you talking about?
>> In the Quran where it says you you have you can have slaves. That's perfect.
>> It doesn't say you can have slaves. What are you telling me? It really does.
>> It does though. It literally does.
>> So, if it does So, if we prove that, if we prove that, will you denounce the Quran right now? We have made, oh prophet time. It was okay.
>> Shut your hat, prophet. It says, "Oh prophet, we have made lawful to you."
>> Can I speak? Can I speak a second what your right hand possesses from the captives? What is that?
>> Yeah. So, right hand possesses. I've been to classes with >> Shut your mouth, bro. Let me talk.
>> Wait. Wait. No. I've been to classes with scholars and they say that is slaves in war.
>> Of course it is. You can listen to any shake and they'll all tell you the same thing.
>> Yeah. They're not deni they're not denying this.
>> They like it. They think it's good. They say yes. Haha. They love it.
>> They say I bet you I bet you that's happening.
>> You know what they say? They say they say, "What? What's wrong with this? We gave you three three good options.
Either become a Muslim or bea or we fight and then we enslave your women."
That's the option that they give you, >> right?
>> I don't believe in enslaving the woman.
>> That's what it's talking about.
>> THAT'S TALKING ABOUT A CERTAIN SITUATION IN THE SLAVERY CONTEXT, DUMBASS. IT'S NOT TALKING about it's talking about all he's >> crashed.
>> But it's like you said, scary. It's like these guys, they have a watered down version in whatever country they're in.
>> They're covered.
No, no, no, no. What it is Yeah. Is there's different forms of Muslims.
Yeah. So, some of them are here to propagate property and mosques. Yeah.
And they and they act like him. They say, "No, we're not we're not aggressive." And then there's ones that say, Yeah. And then there's ones that so like the Bengali. Yeah. They'll be spreading it through susmecks and mosques. Yeah. And then the ones like the ones the the aggressive ones, they'll say, "Yes, we agree. Slavery is good. We want to take over. Khalifa is coming." Yeah. It's coming from the Kesh.
>> He doesn't even know that.
>> Yeah. So they got different It's like a a factory. Everyone's got a different job.
>> Yeah. That's exactly right.
>> And you can't cherryick what you take and what you don't take. You like if you follow it to the tea.
>> It's literally just obvious, right? Like like this guy is literally saying you can viol you can have violence against non-believers. You can text. You can marry kids.
>> Why are you guys so afraid? Just be proud of >> you. No. In the hadith they say you can marry him.
>> I know brother. I know. We just herself.
We just have Aisha herself saying that she was 6 years old when the prophet met. That's all.
>> It was okay at that time. Okay. Could you tell me that's a good example of that's the kind of guy you want to follow?
>> Okay. the age of but let me ask you a question before Muhammad right the the like the Mayans used to play soccer with each other's heads was that okay >> no >> not where in in in like in like Mexico or somewhere >> where in the Quran or the Hadith >> 100 years ago it was not everything's in the Quran is that is that still should >> so what's your evidence what's your evidence telling That's why we're telling you that this religion is worthless. Because if it's just going to take your because if it's just going to take things that seventh century people were already doing and not correcting it, then what do we need it for?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Ilas, what's the age of consent in the Quran? Is there a line, a verse that says the age of consent? Like >> the age of No, there is no there is objective criteria. There is >> minal ministral cycle. Yeah. The age of consent is means that you menstrual cycle.
I know I know it says before as well.
I'm just getting I'm just >> It says woman. It says woman.
>> Yeah. It says woman.
>> A woman is is it a girl? It's not a woman. What is it then? What is it?
>> So a mature one. Women. Where? Where does it say that?
>> Pull up the scar.
>> It says it says a woman who has not had a menration. That's literally >> a woman. It's not their girl. It's not the same thing. According to according to you savages, it is that's the problem.
>> No, no, it's subjective.
>> No, no, it's not subjective. Aisha herself said that at the age of nine in her culture, they become women.
>> Oh, so and then they women.
>> We don't believe in that time. Not that it's not at that time. We could care less. Like I just told you, if we just have a religion that's just okay.
>> So you're a prisonist.
>> If we a prisonist, what kind of dumb nonsense is that? Hey, >> if you just have a religion that's just going to give the okay to stuff that was happening in seventh century, we don't need it. We don't need that. No thanks.
>> Hey, hey, I do women play with dolls.
>> Are you a presentist?
>> Do women play with dolls? You know, >> the type of crap that these people have to wear. Also, you're a presentist. Oh, okay.
>> Yeah. I mean I mean it's up to you. It's up to you if you believe that is that >> I want to do what cavemen were doing.
>> That's the definition of presentism.
>> Yeah. I want I want to do what cavemen were doing. Let's all go back to play with dogs.
>> Let's all go back to living. Let's all go back to living in caves cuz not >> don't they just go then let's go back to being cuz if you DON'T >> YOU KNOW THE brown ones and the white >> then you're a presentist.
>> They play with loou dog though.
>> Who who wants to be a presentist here guys?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They play with Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. But darling. Okay. Who played with Lu? Not not any woman. I know.
>> He said >> and then and then you got >> maybe she uh fought in war. So what's your point?
>> When did she fight in war?
>> At 9. The same day she got married.
>> At the age of nine. At the age of nine.
Hey, watch this. And the other argument the other argument about, oh, it's only in a state of war. Yeah. Well, yes it is. But guess where? There's a hadith that says there will always be a group of Muslims fighting. They will always >> Exactly. They're always in a state of war.
>> So they're always allowed to take uh what their right hand possesses any any time.
>> She fought a war at the age of nine, guys.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. My grand alhamdulillah 1650 >> my grandma fought against Alexander the Great's army. Bro, >> was was also all good. So, what age was um Al-Masud when he watched Muhammad do the ritual when he done the smecks magic with the alz? He was 9 years old. Oh god, nine again. Sorry.
>> These people just don't understand. Like it's just Arabic propaganda and it's just seven seventh century nonsense.
We don't need it. I'm a presantist like that guy said.
He literally thought he was going to like make me feel bad. Oh, so you're a presentist.
>> Hey, presantist. I like that. That's what I'm going to call myself.
>> Who says that? Who do I >> I'm a now man. I'm a now.
>> Oh my god, dude.
>> You know they say present presents are a gift, right?
>> Mhm. Mhm.
>> I sure do, man. I just This is what I'm talking about. This is And people ask me, "Why do I go against Islam?" This is why. Because just like the people that we just had up with, there's billions of those.
There's billions of them. They're like, it's like a zombie invasion. It's like a zombie apocalypse. Those people This is how I like to say >> those are real people walking around right now. Those are your neighbors.
>> I tell you what I think happened. Yeah.
I had a premonition. So So the prophet's Oh, sorry. Muhammad's parents. Yeah.
Mo's parents. Yeah. They were doing smeck's magic. Yeah. In the cabba cabala. Yeah. Sorry. Whoops. Oh yeah.
And then they uh they said, "Look, one night under a full moon, we're going to have a baby." Yeah. And we're going to make him pretend to be this uh whatever.
And then he's going to be born. And every time someone says a shahada, they're possessed by his jin. And then they like to get um dogged.
>> Yeah. I mean, guys, look, human beings have have used religion and stuff like that for a long time to get us to where we are, but I think we're at a place now where we can kind of get along without it. You get what I'm saying? I I think I think that should be okay.
>> That's not true.
>> I I think we can take off the training wheels now. You get what I'm saying?
We're fine.
>> We don't need seventh century said that's not right.
>> We don't need a seventh century Arab guy holding us back. Okay? We we can just move on. We can move forward. Okay.
Muhammad. Muhammad. What did Muhammad do? He he kind of got rid of idolatry in 7th century Arabia. Okay. D W for that.
Okay. We already We're good now. We're good. We're past that.
We don't have to We don't have to have smack slaves now just to keep that going, right?
>> Where does it say sex slaves? Where?
>> Oh. Oh. Oh. Basically, bro, let me break it down to you. When you um when you tell a girl that she has to do it with you and she says no no no no no and then you say yes yes yes yes that that that's basically where it >> right here it says it right here. Oh prophet we have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you of the captives. That's where it says it.
>> What is what is a wife for in this in this if we're just going to be silly right? What is a wife right? Why Why do people get married? Why do people even get married in in in religious sense?
>> It's so It's so they could have sex, right?
>> Isn't that Isn't that like if you if you if you take away all the romance [ __ ] >> it's so it's so they could have sex, right? And be okay in the eyes of God, right?
>> Basically, >> God here is saying, "We have made lawful to you your wives." What does that mean?
How why would Allah have to make it lawful for me my own wife? What the hell does that mean? It means that you're allowed to have sex with her. And then he says, "And you're also allowed to have sex with the ones you whom he's returned to you of the captives whom your right hand possesses." What? What?
Why are we acting like >> Oh, by the way, there's no limit as well. There's no limit on how many.
>> Oh, yeah. No, I know. He says as many as you can afford. You can you can take as many as you can afford. Here, look.
>> Yeah. So, with the right hand possesses, whatever they're called, a concubine, but I don't know what they're called in Arabic. There is no limit.
>> Yeah.
So the better the better maj you are, the more uh the more concubine, isn't it?
>> I forgot what what verse that is, but that's one of the top seers where he says you can take as many as you want.
>> Can I speak?
>> Can I speak?
>> No, I cuz you you've been you've been proven to be a liar today.
>> Like, can you just fix yourself, dude?
>> Just fix yourself. You're not you're not going to you're not going to trick us.
You're not going to trick us, brother.
We've seen all of the scholars. You want me to show you? You want me to show you your scholars saying this? You want me to show you this?
Let me show you.
>> All right. All right. Let me ask him.
Let me ask him just quickly. Yeah. Ilas, if I insult the prophet Muhammad. Yeah.
Are you legally allowed to unalive me?
>> Under Islamic State? Yes.
>> No. No. No. No. There's no Islamic state law. Ibia states, Yeah. that if I uh if I insult Allah, I'm okay. I'm a forgiven person.
if I seek forgiveness. But if I insult uh the prophet and say he smells, then I must be on a lie. I must be put on a list.
>> I don't know what you talking about. I don't know what you talk about when we're in an Islamic state. What are you talking about? They um go on go on the internet right now and go on uh the war is it the war journal or something like that and they'll tell you and they'll show you when there's fatwas made by um scholars in war that put lists up with faces that should be unalived right now.
Just cuz you said this in a state of Sharia doesn't mean that >> he means this >> you're a liar. You're liar. You should change your name to liar.
>> It's just an embarrassment to the Uma.
That's all.
>> Sure.
>> Look, we're gonna I'mma pull up. I always I don't know why I don't save these clips. I got to start.
>> I have a question.
>> What do you want, bro?
I have a question.
>> What?
>> So you said uh there's sex slaves, right?
>> There is.
>> So the Quran says you cannot harm them.
Is there really >> Oh my god, bro.
>> You can't harm them.
>> Facts. That's fact.
>> No. No. That was disrespectful. Alias.
Yeah. Harming a girl. Yeah. I'll give you an example. When you open her legs Yeah. and you force her to take your thing that is harming her. I'm just going to break it down to you.
>> I'm trying to find this. Go ahead, guys.
I'm sorry.
>> So, we we'll we'll talk about a subject that I might like. Yeah. There's a book he can read. is called the unshief sword against the insult of Muhammad.
Go read that, bro.
>> Here, here look here, here look now, now one would say slavery is banned. said yes it's fant but slavery was there and slavery is not something that Muslims should be ashamed of because people think that oh Islam promotes slavery there is only one means of having slavery and that is through capturing of prisoners of war if I go to Burma where they're very poor or Somalia and someone comes to me and says do you want to buy my son or my daughter he's seven years of age 9 years of age I'll sell him for $50 and he can become your slave. That's that's cheap. I'll buy him. Take two. Said, "Oh, you get one free." So, is this halal? Definitely not. This is a free man, a free child. I cannot buy him. The only means of slavery in Islam is through prisoners of wars. Non Muslims, disbelievers. So, if someone attacks my country, >> it's it's just non-Muslims, guys. It's just non-Muslims. I mean, why why are you making such a big deal of this? We just enslave non-Muslims.
>> Can I like Who was that guy you was just watching?
>> Go ahead. Tag fear him. Whoever he is, tag fear him, >> bro. That's a That's a Sunni person.
>> Tag fear him then. Tag fear him. Go ahead.
>> So, so he's Sunni. So, what are you sunny? Are you >> me?
>> Just every Muslim who's up here, all seven of you who just came up, tag fear that guy. Go ahead. His name is the argument you're phony.
>> Hey, what about >> just I fear him? No problem. Just fear him. Go ahead.
>> Why would I >> tell us? Tell us he's wrong.
>> Tell us he's wrong.
>> What's wrong with that?
>> Hold on. Restricted.
>> Exactly.
Ali, you going be going be He's honest.
He's being honest. So what's wrong with that? Like tell us why it's not wrong.
>> By the way, the person you just issue with that.
>> What? Uh I mean I mean what he just said prisoners of are to be taken as slaves.
>> Look look here. Alias alias alias talk to Iban Ali now. You see you heard what you heard what said.
>> So Ib Ali are you allowed I want to hear two I want to hear two disagreeing Muslims talk it out. Go ahead.
>> No actually. No. Wait one second.
>> I said you cannot harm them.
>> You're making the claim. What's what's the argument with that? What's wrong with >> story? So can we sleep with them? Can we sleep with them?
>> One second. One second. Go ahead. Make the argument.
>> Wait. Can we sleep with them?
>> Can we have slaves?
>> Can we have slaves?
>> Yeah. If they're prisoners of war. Yeah.
If you >> So, can we have sex with them?
>> They're captives.
>> So, what's the issue with that? What's the issue with having slaves if they're prison?
>> Answer the question, Cobra. Can we sleep with them, bro?
>> Yeah. What? Yeah. What could possibly be the issue with that? Right.
>> Are we allowed to sleep with them?
>> You guys, everybody, please, everybody who's in America, if you're in UK, if you're in wherever, listen to these guys. This is who they are. This is how they think.
>> Wait, wait. Number one, >> talk to them about you talk to them about a slave and they say >> it's in the Bible, by the way. It's in the Bible.
>> What's the issue with that? What's the issue with that?
>> Bible mentality. Their mentality. But then, but then, God forbid that something happens in Israel, Palestine.
Oh my god. What? Why are you doing >> Wait, wait, wait. Bro, it's because their mothers see you see the hypocrisy.
>> It's because their mothers were genocide in these are the people are brainwashed.
Okay? And they have no they they they have no place in Western society. They don't have any values. They don't have any morals. The only >> I will bet I will bet somebody $10 right now that they're going to say the Bible says the same thing. Guaranteed. Watch.
>> No wait. Watch.
>> One second, guys. One second. One second.
No. All he's going to say or what he's going to say is where do you get your morals from? That's what he's going to say.
Because because if you don't have a book telling you that it's not okay to to rape somebody, then then it's okay automatically, right?
>> Where these are the people that you're letting into these are the people that you're letting into your country.
Guys, let let talk.
When you're saying slavery, you're just equivocating it with the translating slave trade. No one's saying it's like that. Even talk about what makes you think that I care about what type of slave >> I let you monologue. Shut up.
>> You're not letting me do anything.
You're on my panel. What the hell are you talking about? You're not letting me do anything.
>> You're panicking.
>> Welcome. Welcome. You're a You're a demi on my panel. What are you talking about?
Yes, you are. You want to look look.
How's that? How's that?
>> Do you Do you still feel it? Do you still now? Please. Now, please tell me.
>> Please tell me. I could care less. I just want you. I could care less. I could literally take a a care less how beautiful you think slavery is, dude.
>> You think anybody really wants to hear about how beautiful your version of slavery is? What are you talking about?
>> Yeah, that sounds insane.
>> They're not providing an argument.
They're just saying, "Oh my god, there's indentured servitude." Yeah.
You take up arms against another country. Just like how the US, if there's a prisoner of war, they take him, they kidnap him, send him to Guam, if you take up arms against a nation, they're allowed. If you take up arms against him, okay, let's go back to the verse. Let's go back to the verse. Idiot. Let's see if what he's talking about is exactly what was happening. What was that hadith?
>> Can you have sex with your slave? That's the question he's not answering.
>> No, no. What was that had that we read earlier? They know that. Don't even ask him that stupid question. Just They know that already. Let's Let's read it how it was happening. Let's see if this is happening in America. Is this >> Yeah. Look, look at that. Look what he's typing in the comment. present.
>> The Saharan the Saharan are present.
>> No, put S at the end because there's two of us.
>> Yeah. Let's see if this is what's happening in America.
>> President this.
>> Look, look at look at this. Look at this. Look at this. Look at this. We went out with Allah's messenger on an expedition. Then then Bill Mustalik took a took and took some captives that some excellent Arab women and we desired them. Is this happening in America?
>> He just went to the shop and he got some captive women.
>> Is this happening in America?
Is this how is this is this normal? Is this normal behavior? We we went on an expedition. Look at this. Look at me.
Look what it says here. We went on an expedition. I don't even know if they were even fighting anybody. They just >> That's what I'm saying. They just went to the shop.
>> They just went They were just walking around. They were They were in an expedition and we took some captive women, some excellent some excellent Arab women and we desired.
>> You happening? Please, please tell me what what country what like where where please >> bro you reading you reading one sentence America Guantanamo Bay is this Guantanamo Bay right here this is I know >> show me the article where this is this is what's allowed in Guantanamo Bay please >> imagine imagine saying saying oh yeah we we um we do it yeah we do it so we're you do it so we're allowed to do it no >> and then and then the crazy part is that on top of that the question that's coming up here is it's not they weren't even concerned about taking the slaves.
The question was, can we can we bust a nut in the slaves?
>> Uh, most definitely because you have to.
>> But what I'm saying is what I'm saying is going to keep where is this happening in Guantanamo Bay.
>> But if you pull out, yeah, if you don't pull out, don't worry. Allah is merciful.
>> And and Muhammad's answer is like it doesn't matter if you bust a nut in them because every soul that is to be born will be born. That's >> is yeah mashallah yeah because because everyone should be propagating Islam.
>> Where in the hell is this happening anywhere on planet earth where >> basically the religion is women yeah should just lay back and get impregnated for men to impregnate them give birth and then that son should propagate Islam. Yeah, of course.
>> And so every man like this Ibin, what's his name? Iben guy that just came up his Wait, his mother's mother's mother is basically concupine. That's why he's got such problems.
>> Y'all didn't miss this. Y'all didn't miss.
>> Now he wants to know if you're an atheist because because the only way that this could be wrong, the only way that this could be wrong right here is if you're an atheist, right? That's where you're going with it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Because in Christianity, it's okay. See, >> we don't give a We don't give a damn about Christianity. Listen, go look up numbers. We don't care about you. See guys, so learn everybody.
Listen and learn.
>> It's okay to take some according to a Muslim person. If you going to read a passage, read the extra according to a Muslim person. If you want to believe in God, if you want to believe in God, you have to have you have to have sex slavery. That's it.
That's the only way you can believe in God.
>> The Bible says you a man. There's no other way that you can believe in God unless you believe in sex. But but but look, I got a loophole for you guys.
Yeah. Just walk around and say this.
And don't believe it. Don't believe it.
Don't believe it in your heart.
>> This is real. Wait. This is real.
>> What does it say? Don't believe the shahad in your heart, but say it out loud and no one will know. And that's a trick. You know what I mean? You can pretend.
>> You look you trying to throw your way out. You look stupid.
>> And this is why I'm trying to warn everybody.
>> Alhamdulillah, brother. You hear these people right telling you that alhamdulillah this is just about >> alhamdulillah for Muhammad's getting caught out for getting out the bump by >> when they come and tell you my bad for dropping the wrong person but when they come and tell you right oh brother we just want you to to believe in the one true God they're lying >> I'm left on the panel by myself I don't know I talking [ __ ] apologize dropping everybody >> but but they're lying They're just lying to you. This is what they actually want to propagate. They don't care about the one God stuff. You think that on a day-to-day basis, a Muslim is really concerned about what God? No. He just wants to be part of a system where they can subjugate people, control women, right? And possibly one day take some Mex. That's that's all they really care about.
>> Yeah. And basically give salams to your slaves and then that's all right, you know. M.
>> So shroud it with flowers.
>> Put roses down while you grate them.
>> Mhm.
>> Are you um >> are you a Christian brother? Are you not you? Not host. Um >> no no no >> agnostic atheist. Um >> I don't have a I don't have a label. I'm a human being with having a a human experience.
>> I'm not asking about your human experience. I'm asking in do you believe in >> I'm a I'm a pres I'm a I'm a presentist.
What?
>> I'm a now man.
>> I'm a now man. I'm going to change my name. I live in the moment. So basically, >> okay, you live in the moment, but does God live in the moment with you? Like, do you believe that there's a god there or no god there?
>> A god. Yeah. So, you're the only representation of a god cuz you can recreate, isn't it? You're a woman.
>> I'm a representation of a god.
>> You are. You are the only example of god on earth. Yeah.
>> Holy moly.
>> Sorry. I worship you.
>> Holy.
Holy. This is >> I bow down and I worship that that that holy place. I can't.
>> He wants to worship you. He wants >> Can you Can you Can you deny the scripture?
>> Look look look look look look.
>> Thou shalt bow.
>> I ain't saying I ain't saying you [ __ ] >> Look, >> I know but men are firm denying this statement.
>> There we go. See, the holy water has the holy water as well.
>> I'm a genist. You know what I'm saying?
According according to you, THE HOLY PLACE is the womb of a mother. I just know what you're talking about.
>> The most >> I don't know what you're talking about bringing up scripture.
>> The most holy place.
>> Listen guys, no, it's just only thing we're saying Grace is like we don't like Islam, right? Because it it tells you if you want to believe in one God.
>> In Christianity, you can take kids.
>> Only way to believe in one god.
>> You can take children as Yes. One sec.
One sec.
>> Yeah. According to them, the only >> I want to know I want to know this psychological thing that Muslims have.
Yeah.
>> Why do you guys have such an insecure?
>> Your Bible commands a genocide 53 in >> I know he understands what that means.
By um why do you guys have such an insecurity about your religion that you run to others? But the Bible says, but the >> defend your Quran. Defend your prophet.
The Bible doesn't help you defend the Quran or your prophet.
>> Can I defend the Quran?
>> And I don't understand why like they can't just accept >> when I defend the Quran.
>> What I can't what I can't understand is that Christians take Jesus as their example.
>> Exactly.
>> Why? Why are why are you guys not what like what's not clear about that to you guys?
whatever you want to think about the Bible. Anyway, at the end of the day, Christians follow Jesus and his example.
>> Not only that, our role for prophets is very different Islam than than it is Islamically. For us, Old Testament, our prophet sinned and there are moral examples that God know >> that God set out in the Old Testament for us to read their stories, see their sins, and what they were condemned for.
Yeah. Like I'm trying to basically This is what I'm imagine having a hard time trying to push the idea that taking sex slaves is bad.
>> No, imagine trying to defend that. It's good, >> right?
>> Okay, let's see what your what you have to say.
>> Can I speak? For the love of God, Ilas, when we tell you you can speak, that means you can speak.
>> Stop.
>> So you will you kick me.
>> Oh my god.
>> No. Don't cry, please.
>> Um, >> okay.
>> Scary. You know what?
>> You cannot harm the That's the one. That's the one.
>> The Quran says you cannot harm them. Is porn. Okay. All right. All right.
says you cannot you can take a slave but no these guys think that's >> this is how dumb they think you guys are >> is subjugating a woman to un consensual sex harmful >> yeah show me where the Quran says that anyway I'm I'm actually I would love to see where the Quran says you can take a slave but not harm them where does it say And it's like imagine like so let's say you take a SMMEX lady, right? And let's say you don't want to harm her. Okay, cool. Let's say that's your let's say that's your real standard. And then let's say she doesn't want to have Smecks with you, right? And she doesn't want to listen to you at all.
How is she still your slave?
>> 464 applies to her.
>> Yeah. How how is she still your slave after that?
>> She ain't a slave.
>> So he's like in Islam, our slaves could do whatever they want, brother. They don't have to listen to us.
>> They have freedom.
>> They have free will in Islam. That's a slave. He's like He's like, "We're all slaves."
>> Yeah. We're all slaves of Allah. This this is how slow like Americans uh you Europeans this is how slow they think you guys are this they they really think you believe this slaves with free will >> right Ilasa 36 >> yes just explain can a slave so a slave has free will she could do whatever she wants >> what do you mean >> what do I mean >> well scary He said, "What do I >> In Islam, In Islam, the owner of the slave doesn't have free will, let alone the slave."
>> Yeah.
>> Hell yeah. So, can a slave do whatever she wants? What if your slave What if you have a slave and she doesn't want to listen to you? Then what do you do?
>> You don't know.
>> Huh?
>> I don't know.
>> You don't know?
>> Yeah.
>> Isn't that a little weird? How do you get around that?
>> You have a rebellion. I don't know.
>> What are you supposed to do? What do you think you would do in that scenario?
>> I punish them. I don't know.
>> How? How? But you can't hurt them.
You're not allowed to hurt them.
Remember, >> if they disobey you.
>> Oh, >> there's condition.
>> Oh, so if they disobey you.
>> Oh, so so you you can't hurt them as long as they do whatever you want. Okay.
Okay. Mashah. Oh my god.
>> The religion of >> Oh my god. Where do I >> 36? Look up.
>> Somebody please. No, you already explained it. You already explained it, brother. You said >> Can you look it up? Can you Can you at least look it up >> for what? You already explained it.
>> Can you Can you look it up?
>> Is it going to change your answer?
>> No.
You just said that if she doesn't listen to you, then you can you can you can harm her.
>> Yeah, there's conditions obviously.
>> Okay. So, what what made you >> what made you think that that's not what we were talking about to begin with?
Obviously, you're not going to harm her if she's doing whatever you want. What kind of >> You said you can rape them, >> brother. We said, >> hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Scary scary. One second.
You want to have You want to have se x with your slave and she says no to you.
What do you do?
>> Your says you can rape them. By the way, >> uh don't run into my Bible.
>> Go to number to my Bible. Defend your prophet.
>> Alias once again. We're going to ask you once again. She like she just said if you want to have smacks with your slave and she does not want to, then what?
>> And you gripe them.
>> You cannot force her.
>> Okay. So what what happens then? So, so, so now you just now you're just taking care of her, feeding her every day.
She's in your house. She's making the electricity bill go up and >> um scary. I'll give you I'll give you an example. Yeah, >> you cannot force them.
>> No problem. So, what do you do then?
What happens?
>> I'll give you an example. Hang on.
>> It's a courage to free them.
>> You just keep feeding her forever and >> you just you just spray them. Hang on.
Hang on. Scary.
>> Go to bed.
She doesn't She doesn't want to have She doesn't want to have se I'll let you go.
I'll let you go.
>> 12:30 12:30.
I'm not You're not You're not getting what I'm asking you. Ilas, you have a smack slave, right? Like, think about these guys right here. Let's look at the Let's look at the hadith again.
Um where is it?
>> Have you heard the story of Safia?
>> Here. Look.
We went on we went on we went out with Allah's messenger on an expedition to the bilah and and took captives some excellent Arab women and we desired them for we were suffering from the absence of our wives. So these guys were suffering. They couldn't take it anymore. Right.
>> How said, "Do the violence, please."
>> Yeah. So, so at the same time, we also desired ransom for them. So, we decided to have some sexual intercourse with them, but they but by observing the the Azul, right? The pullout game. So, right here, what what would these guys do right here that they're suffering, they couldn't take it anymore, but the girls said, "No, we don't want to have sex with you." What would happen right here?
Yes.
Uh, I don't know.
>> Is somebody whispering in his ear?
>> Somebody's literally whispering in his ear right now.
>> Peter.
>> Somebody's like, "Tell them to read numbers."
>> Let's read Deuteronomy.
>> Change the topic to the Bible.
>> It's It's Deuteronomy 12:28.
And then look at Can you at least look at the verses?
>> Yeah. And then look at this part. And then look at this part. Look at this part. Look at this part.
>> We took some excellent Arab women captive, right? Desired him. Look, look.
Hold on. We took them captive because we desired them. And then look at this.
>> But we used to skip. Why did you skip?
>> Hold on. Look. It says, "But we used to practice withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of the semen to avoid conception."
>> You know that was abregated?
>> Yeah. Do you know? Are you maybe you're not Maybe you're not old enough to know what this means. Do you know what this means right here, brother? Oh, yes.
>> No.
>> Huh?
>> No.
>> No. No.
>> Okay. So, so right here when they used to have smecks with the smeck sleeves, they used to pull it out. They used to pull out the >> That was abregated. That was abregated.
>> No, no, I know. I know. But look, they used to pull out the male organ before the semen came out in order for them not to get pregnant. Do you get that, Ilas?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Now look at this. So we asked Allah's messenger and he said it does not matter if you do not pull it out >> for every soul that is to be born >> up to the day of resurrection will be born.
>> Do you think the women wanted >> do you think that the women in this case wanted to get impregnated by by their captives?
I I don't know.
>> Take a guess, Elas. Take a wild guess, Elas. Come on now.
Take a wild guess, these people are signing up. They're already slaves and now they have to get pregnant for 9 months and then take care of a baby for the rest of their life. You think they want this to happen?
>> I don't know.
>> Okay. He turned his brain off.
>> He turned his brain off. That's what they do.
>> This is what they do. This is what they always end up doing. They have to turn their brain off.
>> Can you look up the This is This is Yeah. You didn't even look up the verses.
>> This is what they always do, brother.
This is This is what they always do.
They don't have They literally don't have thought process. They think that this woman and you know what's crazy you know what's crazy to me is again look at the context of this.
>> We We went on an ex. It says here, "We went out with Allah's messenger on an expedition."
So, it's like they just left their house basically.
Then they took some Arab captive women and they started immediately busting nuts in them like and and he's and in his mind he's like, "I'm not really sure. Maybe they maybe they did. Maybe >> maybe they maybe they did." You know, I don't know who who wouldn't want to get pregnant by some random dude that just picked you up.
That's what he thinks. In the middle of a war that he's like, "Yeah, maybe they wanted that." Yeah. Yeah.
>> No, no. You know, the problem is the their husbands were just un alive. Their fathers were just un alive. Their brothers were just And the first thing the women is going to think is pregnant.
>> I want to get pregnant right now. My dad just got on alive. My husband just got alive. Can we just get pregnant?
Oh yeah, that's a that's a romantic situation right there. It's >> romantic romantic.
>> Mashallah. Alhamdulillah.
>> Romance, guys.
>> Ilia Ilas. Yeah. Your parents' parents' mother's mother's mother was one of these women. You should really, you should really think about this.
>> It's called Stockholm syndrome. You're in love with your captor.
you if if you don't take your shahada as a captive woman, you have a worseer life. So you only get treated good. As you say, >> if you if you don't get if you don't take your shahada as a captive woman, you are subjugated to >> Oh yeah. And >> now does this sound like God or does it sound like the devil?
Sounds like this sounds like This sounds like God.
This sounds like God.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. All right.
>> Hey, guys. These are the people you're letting into your country.
>> I want you to Google. Yeah.
>> Before you go on before you go on your Before you go on your corn sites. Yeah.
Ilas. Yeah.
>> Please, can you go and research the the Saharan Muslim Islamic slave trade?
Yeah. They used to stuff ants into the ears of the captives and they used to chop off their uh their genitals.
>> This is literally when you look at all the guys getting arrested in in UK, all the Pakistani guys getting arrested in UK, this is what they all say when they get arrested. They're like they're like you can't blame us. This is normal in our culture.
>> This is this is >> what we do. This is >> we take women and we grape them. That's I mean >> Oh yeah. The Pakistani the Pakistani men are doing that to uh doing that to normal uh kufur women. You know what they're doing to their own daughters.
>> Oh gosh. They're selling their own to their uncles. Yeah. So that they can have good business.
>> These guys look these guys are reporting me. They're saying that I'm exposing my body.
>> Oh no. No. Look. This is a parody. Yeah.
I'm doing a play, right? And we're making a script for a movie.
>> Scary.
>> Scary. scary, bro.
>> Your head is too b like naked, you know.
>> Too much skin. Too much skin, dude.
>> Yeah, I've got I if I come on camera, oh my god, there's going to be too many like heads out.
>> I don't know how Tik Tok lets them get away with that though. I'm like, >> um >> anyway, >> Mr. Women, >> yeah. Alhamdulillah.
I'm worshiping you right now. Please stop.
>> Are you Are you ex-Muslim?
>> No. No. Listen. Yeah. The word Muslim means the one who submits. So don't dare let Muhammad come along and steal that word. Okay. Go on. Carry on.
>> Are you an ex-Muslim?
>> Am I an ex-Muslim? That is a title in itself.
>> I'm asking you.
>> No, I told you I'm a presentist. No, I just not I just >> Yeah, but before you became a presentist. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you're a noun. We We established that you worship women. We we don't have a problem with that.
>> I want to know >> before before you decided to look at a woman and be like, "She's the closest thing to God."
>> What were you?
>> I was a I was a I was a I was a woman.
>> You're a train?
>> Yeah, I was a woman before. So now I worship women.
>> Yo, what is this convo, bro?
>> Hey, sword. What are you saying, man?
Hey, bro. Bro, you can't me. You have to say, bro.
>> I'm afraid.
Oh, okay.
Um, what? Who should we say?
>> This is what you need to say. Hang on.
I'll teach you what to say. I'll teach you what to say. You need to say, you you No, I'm going to say this. Look.
Anna, Grace, Isis, Cleopatra, >> W right there. W right there.
>> Oh man, I don't know what's happening.
>> I don't know. I DON'T LIKE the ISIS though being involved though.
>> No, no, no. That's that's that's that's what's her name, man. That's that's good. That's Horus's mama.
>> Oh, yes. Is is yes is is >> Yeah. And we love Tik Tok. We talk about Egyptian theology, you know, not not uh >> Egyptian theology, bro.
>> Whatever you talk about.
>> Yeah. The gods of Egypt, >> but you know, as long as like the most interesting one, I can't lie.
>> I used to love it growing up. Like learning at school was like my favorite.
>> Me, too. I I read like uh not the book of the dead but like like a illustrated novel about the >> No, the book of the dead was good. The book of the dead was good.
>> I read like an illustrated novel about it when I was a kid.
>> So, are you ex-Muslim?
>> No. Why would I be an ex-Muslim because of my name?
>> No.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That's that that that kind of that kind of made me feel like you was a >> Muslim.
>> I don't know. The way the way that you were speaking kind of gave me ex-Muslim vibes.
>> What?
>> Hey, bro. Bro, not every not everyone who knows Arabic yet.
>> Is a is a Muslim.
>> Muslim. I'm just repeating what I always hear Muslims say to one another.
>> A lot of Muslim.
>> Of course not. I'm not Arab, bro. Like the two words I know in Arab, their meaning is like salam and salat.
>> You were Did you say salad? Did you say salad?
>> All right, bro.
>> Hold on.
>> Sword. You were that guy that was here for that guy that said [ __ ] Kadir, right?
>> Yeah.
>> No way.
>> Hey, what about salomi and bacon? Can we say salomia and bacon? Notam.
>> Someone said [ __ ] >> Yes, he >> a Muslim.
>> He's a Quran only though.
>> Yeah, he was Quran only.
>> Oh, he's a Quran only.
>> Yeah, he was mad that we kept bringing up the scholars.
>> Hey, but what Quran? What? Quran though?
Um, in what dialect do you want it today?
>> Yeah. Which house? Yeah. Which >> host? Host. There's something I don't understand. Right. Wait. Peep this. Peep this. Host. Tell me if it makes sense.
>> So Muhammad and Gabriel initiated this different kat according to the Muslims, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> So there were different modes of recitation, right?
>> Then he burned everything to make one mode of recitation.
>> Yeah. And then different modes of rec recitation come up again.
>> Well, no. So, he didn't he didn't do that. He um he just reverted it to a to a skeletal text without the dialects. He he made so cuz the dots are what makes >> No, no, no. He's talking about the He's talking about >> I'm talking about like the the different like modes of recent.
>> No, I know. But he said Uman. So, Usman is the one who left the rasom. He left He just left the skeleton without the Dale. Yeah. So he basically put it in a way where where you could add your own dots to it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. But >> they added the words as well.
>> What s is trying to say >> Yeah.
>> is the Quran came down in seven different um modes.
>> Right.
>> Right. Yeah.
>> Yeah. That's according to the prophet.
>> Mhm.
>> So now could be turned into 35.
>> Yeah. So these these modes now came down according to the prophet made the Quran easier to recite.
>> Right. Supposedly. Therefore, when when burned the mah basically he's also burning the with it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. For sure he did that.
>> So people either you have the option of one being preserved or a mixture of like 30% one h two so on and so forth being preserved which is a big problem. That's a big big problem.
>> Yeah. You know, but I mean, Muslims are just going to say, "Oh, yeah. Well, but we just recited it off memory." So, >> hey, >> and there's there's incomplete verses.
Nice. Nice memory. Boom.
>> Yeah. Well, well, I don't know if you've heard it, um, host. There was a guy that was praying in the masid and Omar was w like watching him pray >> and he was reciting one of the verses and and he got so mad at this guy he grabbed him by the neck and dragged him to the prophet and he said recite to the prophet right now and the prophet goes yeah that's how it was revealed so was like what the hell like that's not how I know it what do you mean so the prophet told him to recite >> and then when when the prophet heard it and he goes that's that's how it was also revealed as well. So multiple Sahabah with different >> vers. They were they were like they were like they were like which one is right and Muhammad was like yes >> yes >> yes >> that sounds like a Simpson quotation >> he say he also probably quoted the Quran. You listen you obey and you don't question.
>> God bless everybody. Have you ever seen the guy on Tik Tok where he says you better follow him blindly because if you don't follow him blindly what happens >> forgot what he said the punishment was but yeah >> yo why why is there yo yo yo wait according to uh well just history in general before the time of Muhammad there were like idols in the Ka right >> but before the time of Muhammad when the the the Mecca was being attacked by for elephants. He sent two birds to protect the cabra.
>> Yeah, he sent the >> Why is he protecting a house of idols, bro? What are we doing?
>> Does he Does he like the idols or not?
But like, you got to make it clear.
>> There was there was a a statue of Mary and uh Jesus in there.
And when the prophet came in and destroyed all of them, he left.
>> Yeah.
>> He left the statue of Mary and Jesus.
Pictures, pictures, pictures, grace, pictures, icons, >> stuff.
>> Whatever.
>> Wait. So, so he he left the Isn't that like haram? So, I have to >> Yeah. Which is So, now now if we go into the Ka is there like a icon of Mother Mary and Jesus and they're doing around.
>> Maybe they removed it after John Lennon is in there. He say, "Mother Mary comes to me speaking words of wisdom."
>> What is this guy on?
>> He's just He's just He's just vibing.
He's going with it.
>> He's in the moment right now.
>> He's in the He's in the now.
>> He's in the now. Just let it ride. Let it ride.
>> This is my salot. In the presents.
in the prison >> right here. So this is the one I was looking at earlier. It says, "We used to recite surah which resembled in length and severity to surah barat. I have however forgotten it.
>> There is surah in >> No. So this is actually I want to say um they call it by a different name. I think it's taba or I'm not mistaken. Oh, surahaba.
>> Yeah, I think that's what these are.
>> The the spider.
>> Let me make sure.
>> Surah doesn't mean the spider.
>> What does it mean?
>> Means repentance.
>> Oh, for real.
>> Is the spider?
>> Oh, yeah. Same thing. It's like Arabic and stuff.
>> So, so I'll tell you something. Yeah.
Scary.
>> The Quran is a zoo.
>> The Quran is a zoo.
>> You have the surah of the cow.
You have the sw of the spider.
>> It's Chinese astrology basically.
>> It's such a weird right. Isn't that such a weird I always wonder that like what the hell does this chapter have to do with a cow? Like I don't get it. And it's like you go to the chapter of the cow and it's like kill everybody. Like what the >> I thought I was going TO LEARN ABOUT >> NO. NO. THE FUNNY THING YOU GO TO SORT OF TBA. YEAH. Sura which is meant to be the sort of repentance.
And then it's unal alive those who do NOT BELIEVE IN ALLAH IN THE LAST DAY.
>> YEAH.
>> And I'm like, wait, what part of that is repentance?
>> Mhm. Mhm.
>> I think I think if we're all we're all spoiled by Jesus, right? So, so when we see like, oh, this is the chapter on repentance, we think we're going to see something beautiful, but >> yeah, not >> but it's not.
Unfortunately, we're left with one.
>> And then and then you have then you have the surah of the cave.
>> Mhm.
>> Then you have what else? The surah of the camel.
>> The surah of the woman that talks about marrying your stepdaughters and stuff like that, you know, pretty coherent.
>> Yeah. And marrying pretty girls.
>> Look, Ski says the surah of the cow is called that because the author is comparing having wives to rearing cattle to enjoy.
I that's probably unfortunately true. I wouldn't doubt that.
>> He's like, "Let's talk about cattle."
>> The cow.
>> Let's talk about >> So, verse one, when you get married, it's like, "What?"
>> Also, what about the the angels that Allah sent to teach black magic to the Babylonians? Why do we about that?
>> Yeah, that's true.
>> Actually, makes no sense. This guy, >> you know, you know, Allah was the one that taught people how to do black magic and yet curses those who do black magic.
>> It has been arrogated. Bro, >> that's the that's the crazy, bro. That is the maddest thing. She's so right. So Allah sent down two angels to to teach ma magic >> and then everyone who follows them has been misguided.
>> So who have heard this argument right?
>> I know scary has but we discussed the idea of Allah being the creator of evil.
Okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That's it is a fact.
>> Yeah. So, so when you look at the Islamic paradigm and there is the removal of free will and everything comes back to Allah in creation of intentions, will desires and so on and he just disposes them over to the creation.
Well, technically speaking, everything then comes back to Allah. And in the Quran, there's a verse that literally says both good and evil come from Allah.
So how is there moral accountability and moral um responsibility if everything is created by Allah and disposed over to the creature?
>> I mean, you know, we just got to say what Adam said, right? Why are you going to blame us for something?
Like >> why you got to why you got to blame me when it was predestined to me 40 40 years before my creation >> on on that note guys I'm going to go to the mosque so I'm going to see you later >> is that your is that your women temple >> happy aid happy aid >> happy happy uh yeah happy present moment Grace remember yeah >> you are the cre creator.
>> No no no no. That's blasphemy. That's blasphemy. That's blasphemy.
>> Let me ask you a question. Blasphemy.
>> Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Finally. Is this is the spirit of God inside you?
>> Stop blaspheming, dude. Stop blasphing.
>> No. No. But are you and the father one?
>> No. No.
Okay, >> that's blasphemy, dude.
>> So, so, so the spirit of God is the Holy Spirit is not inside you now.
>> No, the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is with me is not inside.
>> Oh. Oh, you're walking down the road together. Okay, cool.
>> Don't don't don't blasphe, dude.
>> Hold on a second. Yeah, because the the spirit of God is in everyone. Yeah, that's what you said.
>> No, no, no, >> no. That's what the Christians believe.
No, not in everyone. Not every Christian.
>> Yeah. Not in every Not in every single >> Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. If I'm baptized, we don't believe it's with Muhammad.
>> No, not if you're baptized. If you have faith in Jesus Christ, >> if I got possessed by the Holy Spirit, >> you're not.
>> That's why the Pentecostals.
>> Hey, listen. I just rather worship women, man. It's easier. There's no slavery. You >> There's no hell fire. Like, it's just simpler over there.
>> I think that's >> There's no fret. There's no fret.
There's no threat. Yeah, I >> I think that's I think that's up for interpretation.
>> You're the sword. You're the sword, bro.
You are the one they use when with the threat. You are not the threat.
>> No, I appreciate your >> your um going to be line right behind anyway.
>> I appreciate what he say. Watch out.
>> All right. Peace out, guys.
>> Peace out.
He Bray comes in. Bray comes in. Doesn't even say hi. Doesn't even address anyone. He just starts going.
>> What' you say, Brahman?
>> He dropped.
>> Oh, he dropped like this.
>> Trust the spell.
>> [ __ ] this panel.
>> Yeah.
Yeah. This is what happens, I guess, when I don't have a topic that I want to talk about. I just came on live with no idea what to talk about. So, we got women worshippers.
Um, >> that's crazy.
>> We got rapists came up earlier saying, "What's wrong with that? What's wrong with what's wrong with taking women slaves?"
>> I don't know.
I I just want people to just understand like >> if that if any of that sounded weird to you, these are the people you're trying to let into your countries.
>> That's all.
>> You know, scary.
>> Yo, the Bible speaks about this, bro.
>> You know, you want to know something?
Um, it's kind of disturbing, but >> when I was a Muslim, I had no problem defending any of the things that you bring up. You know, like >> how though? What? How did you feel?
Especially as a woman, Grace. How did you feel? I don't get that.
>> It's our culture, bro.
>> So, no, no, no. Forget about culture.
But more more for me, it was God sets the moral example.
God sets the moral standard. Yeah. No, no. I'm I'm speaking to you honestly. If Allah says that marrying a six-year-old is okay, he's Allah. He knows what he's talking about.
>> Yeah.
>> If Allah says you can have se slaves, he's Allah. He knows what he's talking about.
>> That's it. That's as far as you guys ever thought about.
>> That's Yeah, that's that's how it go.
And then for me, it was like when the holes like when I started like truly looking into Islam >> and started reading more hadiths and comparing and I'm trying to understand things, I'm like something's not adding up. Like like no matter what way I'm trying to look at it, this can't be like truly from God. Like it like it can't. And then when you when you join in then like the morality adds into it and you're just like yeah like this can't happen.
>> Yeah. Cuz you're >> Yeah. Cuz like if you if if you feel like okay God is whatever and he he gets to tell you what's right and wrong.
>> But don't you still have like a a natural sense of what what's right and wrong?
>> Yo, the Bible talks about that too. No, not in Islam, unfortunately.
>> You really don't?
>> No.
>> There's so much indoctrination and there's so much brainwashing >> that you genuinely think it's okay.
>> Is it is it like a little bit of like supremacist because you're like, "Oh, these guys are caffers or whatever." Is that >> There is There is a lot of that, but it's more the fact that you >> get taught it from such a young age that you don't know any better.
>> Yeah.
And then you grow up thinking that's fine and it's normal and you just go on about your day. There's no thought about it.
>> There's there's an acceptance of it.
There's just defending of it. Why?
Number one, we were lied to as kids.
>> Mhm.
There's a there's a famous narration that Muslim parents like to spread to their kids that the prophet used to live next to this Jew Jewish lady.
And every morning he would walk outside and there was rubbish and thorns outside of his doorstep.
And this happened for years.
And then one day he walks outside and there's no rubbish. There's no thorns.
>> Mhm. and he starts questioning why like this lady has been doing it like for years like why is today any day special?
So he asked about her and they're like oh she's sick. So he went over and he took care of her and he made her s and then she finally accepted Islam.
So if you're hearing this as a child you're going to think wow what an amazing person the prophet is. Yeah, >> it's a fabricated.
It doesn't exist.
>> It doesn't exist. Like Like what do you mean?
>> They gave you a weak a weak hadith.
>> Not even weak. Not even fabricated.
>> Oh, it doesn't even exist at all. It doesn't Okay.
>> It doesn't exist. It It was something that >> just made up completely.
>> THEY INVENTED. YEAH, they invented to try and make the prophet's character look better, >> bro. They memorized it, bro. It's all transmission, bro.
>> So, I could imagine there's a lot of that, right? Cuz I'm guessing people don't go read books and stuff like that.
They just they probably just make their own uh Muhammad in their head basically.
>> Exactly.
>> And he's like And he's like kind and and powerful and courageous.
>> I mean, this this is true of every religion too, by the way. like people that don't read just make their own version of the the main figures.
>> But so Grace, were you also ever confronted by somebody that would be like, "No, but this is definitely wrong at any point." Or did >> Yeah, plenty of times. Yeah, plenty of times.
>> And And how did you feel in those moments? Did you know they were right or did you like think they were dumb?
>> You know, delusions of grandeur.
>> What is it?
>> Delusions of grandeur. Yeah, >> it's pretty much that.
>> How how how would that apply?
>> Like I was in the Lulu like I live like like I live like I lived in another planet. This person that is speaking to me >> Yeah.
>> is completely like has no brain. Like they're just speaking BS.
>> Oh, okay. Yeah. So it is like your So it is like >> And I'm like like what are you talking?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's just so far what he's saying to you or what he's trying to say to you is so far from your reality that it doesn't even process basically.
>> Exactly. Exactly.
>> Exactly.
>> Yo, what's up?
>> That's terrible.
>> And that's and that's one of my biggest >> Yeah.
>> like message that I give to like Muslims or people even looking into Islam.
>> Mhm. When when a reverts to Islam or is looking into Islam, this is what they teach them. Islam is about salah. It's about fasting. It's about praying. It's about doing doing your zakat. It's about like doing you treat people good, you know. Um blah blah blah. That's not Islam.
>> If that was Islam, I wouldn't have left them.
>> Right. Right.
>> You got to look at your moral. Yeah. You got to look at your moral example. Who is Muhammad? The greatest creation of all times and places. He applies to everything.
>> You can't sit there and say, "I'm going to take this verse and I'm not going to take this verse." The Quran applies for all time. Allah made it clear. It comes to all of humanity.
>> Mhm.
>> So, you're saying in 2031 50% of the Quran is no longer needed.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Exactly. It's irrelevant supposedly.
That that's why I think like they use the good stuff to sneak in the bad stuff. Right. That's kind of how I look at it.
>> Exactly. Exactly. Yeah.
>> It's all sugarcated.
>> It's like believe in one God, therefore we have the right to be violent and subjugate women. And >> and it sounds exactly what the devil would do.
>> It goes to this point. Yeah. We were having a conversation with this guy on a different panel >> and we're like the the topic of the live was I don't believe Islam is true. Tell me why you believe it's truthful.
>> Yeah.
>> This guy comes up and he goes Islam is true because God is simple.
>> Huh?
What do you mean God is simple? I mean God is one. Oh, so because God is one, therefore Islam is truth. Like it's absolute brain rot.
>> That's really what they think. And I think they do that because they're comparing it to other beliefs and you know the other beliefs are a little bit more complicated. And so they say, "No, no, no. I just want something simple."
But they don't understand that just because they want something simple, they're they're getting tricked that like they're Islam uses that against them. Like, "Oh, you want something simple? Here it is." And then you get that and then you're like, "Oh, now you have to agree that pedophilia is good and sex slavery is good and being violent towards people is good >> 100%."
>> And and that's why a lot of reverts that revert to the to the religion of Islam find such a hard time re like defending such things and they end up leaving within a year or two of like accepting Islam.
>> Mhm. Whereas like someone who's born into it and like was raised into it, either they just don't delve into it cuz it's just irreconcilable in them and they would rather not deal with it than look at it or they go through what I went through and they defend it and then they wake up from it and realize, hang on, wait a sec, that doesn't sound right.
>> What's up, Bonour?
Everybody's going guys.
>> God bless.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Are you Muslim, Christian, Buddhist?
>> Buddhist women.
>> Yeah.
>> Are you a Buddhist?
>> Yeah. And then um I I left it and then I was I was introduced to Islam and then I was reading about it and a lot of it doesn't make any sense in there.
>> So what are you now currently? just internally um I'm a Christian now after reading Islam >> after you read is the the Quran you tend to quote the right way >> and it's like one of the things that I found out when I was studying Islam is a lot of imams and shake they were I would talk to them ask them and they always say this is how we interpret things >> and I'm like that's not what Allah says >> and and I I started to question like I think Muslim know more about Islam than Allah does.
>> That's funny you said that.
>> Yeah, they have.
>> Yeah. So, because I I asked them like where does Allah says to pray five times a day >> and it they can't find that in the Quran.
So, why >> technically technically when it comes to the prayers Yeah. I can give you an interpretation that does fit in the Quran. Four, five, five prays a day. Um, however, I don't know if there's too much background noise right now. One sec.
However, um, the Quran is very clear that anything that Muhammad speaks is not out of whims and desires, rather it's revelation. So, the the hadith is also a revelation from Allah as well.
Like, he didn't get it from himself. So I can argue that even if the prayers are in the hadith, it's still revelation from Allah.
>> And one of the biggest thing is um from a Buddhist background. So I wasn't even biased at all. So when I read the Quran as it is, so I put myself in a time when the Quran was revealed, you know, like read the ayah as it was there for the first time.
>> And you start to see that the audience of the Quran are Jews and Christians.
They're not, you know, um, one one verse really stood out to me was chapter 2 verse 41. It's like, believe in my revelation, you know, which is the Quran that confirms your scripture. So, obviously, it's not Buddhist scriptures cuz I don't know what they're talking about.
>> Yeah.
>> So, it had to be them. So, 1094s as well.
>> If you have any doubt these stories in the book, go back to previous previous people who read the book. In Buddhist, there's no there's no Joseph, there's no Jacob, there's no these guys, right?
>> Yeah. So the audience of that verse is also Jews and Christians. And the last one was chapter 4 verse 157 was for me was Jesus was neither unal alive nor crucified just made it appear so. So I don't know who Jesus is. So that means the audience must be someone that knew Jesus. So when I put it into that light, I started to see that at first the Quran was to persuade Jews and Christians >> who knew the Bible, knew the Torah and the Gospels, >> but didn't really understand it.
>> So they end up just following Muhammad.
Y >> and then after that once he had enough power and elevation he start to take advantage of the women he put and then all these ayas comes out after to justify his wrongdoing cuz Allah w it >> he wants all these girls and then cuz Allah says okay he put all these like crazy id that things in there >> and then you start to see that oh and as slaves to you have intercourse with even though they have women and eyes revealed like these Jews and Christians that are deceived by Muhammad are asking him why we're doing this and the eye is revealed >> and that's why it it was revealed over stages of time >> and that's how I'm reading it when I'm reading the Quran >> and so from there now when the Jews and these deceived Muslims were actually Jews and Christians go back to the true Jew Christians say that hey you know what's going on this is not great life and then the real Jews and Christian would say no Jesus the final seal there's another prophet after Then they go back to Muhammad and then Muhammad says convert them to Islam made them pages unlight them. So I started see this book as a instruction to pursu like deceive Jews and Christians first and then conquer and unlive them to convert them >> and justification of doing all the wrongdoings.
>> Y >> and I don't see any revelation there.
>> Couldn't put it better myself. That's That's exactly what it is. He He just hijacked religion to to justify every evil thing he wanted to do. That's what it ended up being. I don't know if he had good intentions in the beginning.
I'm I'm not sure, but he definitely ended up taking advantage of >> Yeah. And then when when the Quran says it's only in Arabic only for them to understand, he's basically this group of Arabic speakers are the one that take advantage of these Jews and Christians.
>> Yep.
>> Right. So that's why it's only for the Arabic speaking people. And then now the English is diluted.
>> And now I'm starting to see that the the non-Arabic speaking Muslims are pawns to the Arabic speaking Muslims. And now they're putting mosques everywhere. And these Muslims are conquering and doing everything for these Muslims.
>> Y >> and that's what I'm seeing the world is today.
>> Yeah. The Arabic thing is like a cover because it's it's it's just like how You know, back in the days, the the the Catholic Church would not allow you to translate the the Bible, right? And then the Protestant movement came along and translated and they're like, "Wait a minute, you guys have been lying to us about everything." That's pretty much the same thing that's going on there.
>> Yep. And I even asked my friends, you know, like I know what you guys believe, but that's not what it says. And all they can say they're no scholars, and then they're not a scholar. So now I was asked and I started to see that scholars and um Imam shakes know more than Allah >> because it's man-made and when you start to see that the compilation comes two 100 years after the death of Muhammad and then I just even memorizing what you did yesterday was hard like come on >> right >> and so that's where I'm at now where I really started seeing that Islam is a book to take over the world.
>> Yeah. The part that I'm I'm I'm afraid about that I've been thinking about is okay, there's a lot of people who don't know, right? They get deceived, they get tricked, and then they figure it out and they leave, right? The part that I'm more concerned about is the people who they're just like this already.
>> You get what I'm saying? They already have this like supremacist violent >> mindset where they want to subjugate people and control women.
>> They're just like that and then they see the Quran and they're like, "Oh, that's perfect."
>> Right? And then they those are the people that I'm really concerned about.
>> And they're the one that will like well what call it sacrifice himself for the Quran.
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah. That's what I see too.
>> Like kind of like this guy right here who just came up like Ilas. Ilas is like that right?
What?
>> Right. You're like that. You're a person who doesn't think there's anything wrong with having smeck slaves, right? IAS, that's okay. Right.
>> What's a sex slave?
>> What's a slave?
>> That's question number one of us.
>> What's a little girl?
>> And and Muslims, you need a definition for some reason.
>> Yeah. I can't tell you how many times I've seen uh female converts Uh they said, "But they say they're physically and mentally mature." And I said, "Okay, ask them this one question." And the guy was sitting right there like he was like there. And I said, "Ask him one question."
>> Is a 9-year-old physically and mentally mature to be had sex with? And then she said, "Is a 9year-old physically mentally mature?" Like, "Yeah, sure. Why not?" So they define words differently than we do.
>> Oh, yeah. They say they say, "Can you answer?
>> They say that's a 9-year-old woman, brother. That's a nineyear-old. That's a nine-year-old woman."
>> Can you answer? They think nine yellow JLo, man.
>> Do you crit Do you criticize the Bible?
>> We're not talking about the Bible, brother. I'm not a Christian.
>> That that that was >> the Bible says you can have kids slaves.
>> But I'm not a Christian.
>> So why don't you criticize it?
>> Because I'm talking about Islam right now.
>> Is that okay?
>> Do you ever criticize Christianity? Does the Does the Quran say you can have sex slaves?
>> No. I just told you so.
>> We We just read it. Do you want to read it again?
>> Maybe he needs another reminder.
>> Is Is rape harm? Yes or no?
>> Of course. Let's read it again. Let's read it again.
>> Does Why does the Quran says you cannot >> You got stuck. You got stuck last time we asked you this. Let's see if you get stuck again. All right, let's let's read here.
We went out with Allah's messenger on an expedition to this area and took captives some excellent Arab women.
We desired them for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, but at the same time we wanted to sell them for money.
>> Is this good?
>> It was okay.
>> Who said it was okay?
Seventh century it said it was okay.
>> No. No. But who who? So, so these guys were just doing whatever they wanted according to seventh century or did they have a prophet with them?
>> Islamic it is okay.
>> No. So that means that God allowed it, right?
>> Yeah. But but you can't harm them though.
>> Okay. So So again, let me ask you again.
You said you can't harm them, right? So let's keep reading. So it says, "We desired them for we were suffering from the absence of our wives." So these guys were were really thirsty. They really they really badly wanted to get it on, right? So we decided, it says here, "So we decided to have intercourse with them." Does it say, "So we asked them."
Uh, no.
>> So what does this mean?
Maybe they they consented.
>> Maybe they consented. What if they didn't consent?
>> They they did.
>> But what if they didn't though?
>> Who?
>> These women. What do you mean who? He's all All of a sudden he doesn't know who he's talking about.
>> They did, >> brother. Did they consent to getting sold too?
I >> think that's the result of inreing.
>> It really is. Look at this. It says, "We also desired a ransom for them." What does that mean? What does it mean that we wanted a ransom for them? What does that mean?
>> What does this mean?
>> Yeah. What does this mean right here? We also desired a ransom. Like these guys couldn't make up their mind. He's like, "We wanted to bang them, but we also wanted to sell them for money."
And if it's works only in the seventh century, which means that the Allah's word expires later on.
>> He said, what is the meaning?
>> He said, what's the problem?
>> So, you're an emotional thinker then.
>> This dude said you're an emotional thinker.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, in other words, what you're saying is that you have no You have no empathy for other human beings.
That's what you're saying, right?
>> No.
>> Did he actually say that?
>> I have intellectual arguments. I I like you.
>> So we shouldn't let you into our country is what you're saying, right? Because if you come here, you're going to say, "Oh, >> uh, who said I want to go to your country?"
>> Oh, so just in case though, we we shouldn't let you in. We should >> I don't want to go to your country.
>> Okay, but we shouldn't let you in, right?
>> Uh, I am okay with I don't want to go to America.
>> Where are you?
>> North Africa.
>> North Africa. Oh, that makes sense.
Okay, so he's like, >> he's like, are you left showing up?
Are you left in in Nigeria? Not in >> Are you a left shoulder?
>> Boo is in Nigeria, bro.
>> Ilas, are you a left shoulder?
>> What?
>> You know what a left shoulder is?
>> Left shoulder? What?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Are you a left shoulder?
>> No.
Hey, uh, scary. Should we bring that hadith up about left shoulders and see what he thinks?
>> What is that?
>> I showed last time about the Adam's left shoulder and right shoulder, like the the offspring.
>> Yeah. Yeah. No, I just That's cool, but we I just want to I I like this guy being stuck right here where he's at with his weird argument.
>> He think he thinks this is normal. I just want people My my whole thing right now is for people to hear that these type of people exist, right?
where where you can show them that that these guys were selling women, taking taking them as slaves. And he's like, "What's wrong with that? These are the people that you want."
>> The Bible says you can sell kids.
>> These are the people that you want in your country, guys. Remember that.
>> I don't want to go to >> Just really remember that, guys.
>> Keep your country for yourself.
>> We're not talking about you, Il. Yes.
We're talking about people who want to come here, >> who are like >> you bumped Iraq, by the way.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Are you okay with it?
>> Yeah. You killed 1 million people.
>> 1 million people. Are they terrorists?
>> What's wrong with that?
>> You kill children.
>> Why don't you kill children?
>> You rape children.
>> What's wrong with that?
>> We don't.
>> Yes, you do.
>> On the Sharia, it's Spanish.
>> No, it isn't because you you don't categorize them as children. That's the problem. You say it's a nine-year-old woman.
>> Wait, I you follow the Sharia?
>> Yes.
>> Which method do you follow?
Uh uh I don't I I'm sorry.
>> Yeah, but which method?
>> I don't follow.
>> You accept them all?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. I I I'll I'll bring you something.
I want to know if you believe in this one.
Here. Let's Let's keep Let's keep embarrassing him. Let's Let's show him some more stuff.
Let's see if he thinks there's anything wrong with this over here.
Hey brother, what do you what do you think about this ilas right here? Um, her IDA is three months. IDA means the waiting period before you can have SMEX with them. Okay. Her ida is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menrate which is based upon the ayas sura albaka 2228.
The same is for the young who have not reached the years of menration.
Their is also 3 months like those in menopause.
Are you okay with that?
>> Yeah, it can be a young woman.
Do you know the difference between a woman and a girl?
>> So, so let's just read it again, right?
The waiting period before you can consummate is the same for the young >> who have not reached the >> the young who have not reached the years of menration.
>> A young woman, >> what is the years of menration?
Uh during puberty?
>> Yeah. What year is that usually happening?
>> 10.
>> Huh?
>> 10 years.
>> 10 years.
>> What about What about in 7th century Arabia? What was the years of ministration here?
>> Uh 30.
>> 30.
>> Yeah. said. Yeah. Said a woman.
>> Let's read. Let's read. Ready? Let's see.
>> Show a present, bro.
>> Huh?
>> President. You're such a presentist.
>> Presentist.
>> That's your argument right now. You think you're making fun of me by saying that my morals match the present time?
That you think that that's a bad thing?
>> Do you agree with that?
>> Of course.
So you're a presentist?
>> Yeah. What's wrong with that? What are what would you be then? If I'm a presentist, what are you? A pastist?
>> No.
>> So what would be your equivalent?
>> I'm Muslim.
>> There you go, guys.
>> Do you criticize the Bible or the >> You can't make this up.
>> If you're a Muslim, you're living in the past by definition. That's something you say, >> bro. It's like every single time you hear a >> You criticize the Bible.
>> You criticize the Bible.
>> Hold on. Hold on. Guys, be quiet.
>> Who checks to see if they are menstruating?
>> Yeah. Who checks to see if they're menrating? IAS, thank you for the super chat, by the way.
>> Yo, >> who checks to see if they're menrating?
>> What?
>> Who checks to see if they're menrating?
The women. these >> uh the parents or the women it tell >> these nine-year-old women.
>> Yo, yes. I hope you vomit every single time you drink, bro. like standing because it's it's something that Yo, could you pull up Mim 2026 and read what it says for him?
Yeah, please >> 2026.
It's up the date because it's 2026, by the way. So, >> it's a present verse. None of you should drink while standing.
>> And if anyone forgets, he must vomit, >> bro. What the hell, >> I hope you don't drink.
>> He said, and you know what's crazy is it says he must vomit. This is a commandment given to you by the prophet Muhammad. None of you should drink while standing. And if you do, you should vomit.
>> Is this a problem?
>> Is there a problem with that?
>> Do you do this?
>> Does it hurt?
>> Yes.
>> You do this right here?
>> Yes.
>> So, you never drinking just like the connection.
>> Do you have a problem? Does it uh bother you?
>> No, bro. This is normal. This is normal.
This is super normal.
>> What was the what was the prophet trying to um you know what what was the message here?
>> What does this matter?
>> What does this help with?
>> It's command. It's a command.
>> Oh, you just do it. You just you don't you don't care why. There's no reason.
That makes sense.
>> We feel sorry for you know we feel sorry for >> you know you're such an emotional thinker. Yas, you know, we feel sorry for you, right?
>> I feel sorry for you, too.
>> Why? Why? What? What are we We're allowed to drink standing up.
>> Because you don't believe in the truth.
>> We're We're This is not the truth, Elas.
This is This is literally brain This >> Have you seen the miracle?
>> This is literally brain rot. No, I haven't seen the miracle. That's what I'm talking about. There hasn't been a miracle to be.
>> Nobody split the moon. You think somebody split the moon?
>> Yeah.
There's many other miracles by the way.
>> Like what?
>> In the Quran it says the universe is expanding. Nobody uh ever said it.
>> The Bible said the Bible said that way before the Quran >> where >> Quran literally in the Quran it literally said it doesn't mention anything about universe. It says that the the the sun is setting inside of a of a pool of muddy water. It's right here. They said the sun the sun sets under Allah's throne every night. Do you think that happens?
>> Where >> you want to see?
>> Show me the verse.
>> It's 1686 here. Sahib Bukati 482.
Once I was with the prophet in the mosque at the time of the sunset. The prophet said, "Oh Abu Dar, do you know where the sun sets?" I replied, "Allah and his messenger knows best." He said, "It goes and prostrates underneath Allah's throne."
So, so, so Allah's throne is in outer space.
>> No, no, no.
>> It's It's outside the space.
>> But, you know, we can see the sun, right, at all times.
No, it's outside of space. It means like >> No, no, I'm talking about the sun.
>> No, I'm talking about the sun.
>> Yes.
>> Is the sun outside of space?
>> No.
>> So, how does it go to Allah's throne every night?
>> Say underneath.
>> Yeah.
>> Underneath the throne.
>> How does it go underneath the throne every night? What does that mean?
>> And how >> how is that different from the daytime?
Because somewhere on Earth when it's night time, it's daytime somewhere else.
So is >> underneath outside the throne.
>> Yeah. No, I get what you're saying. But what I'm saying is is it night time some places sometimes when the when it's daytime or is it or is it always nighttime for everybody at the same time?
>> What do you mean?
>> Like when does this happen right here?
>> It happens when when it happens.
That's when it happens.
They're very smart.
>> What do you mean? I I don't answer.
>> When does this happen?
>> When the sun sets.
>> I know. What What time of day is that?
>> Morning.
>> So, morning.
>> The sun sets in the morning.
>> The sun. I love it, bro. Yo, this guy is hilarious.
>> Are you sure he's not a comedian? Like seriously, at this point, I think he's a comedian, man.
>> Brother, brother, this is what I'm asking you. Look, >> when it's night time for you, right?
It's daytime for me.
>> Yes.
>> And the sun doesn't go underneath nowhere. I can see it. Even though you can't see it, I could see it.
>> Yes.
So when is this happening? When is when is the sun setting and going underneath someone's throne and prostrating?
What does prostrating mean?
>> That's the >> uh prostrating.
Yeah, we got >> So the sun the sun goes like sun goes like >> No, it it goes down. It goes down.
>> But the sun never goes down.
>> It goes down at night.
>> No, it doesn't.
>> It looks like that. It looks like it goes down, which is why Muhammad wrote this because he didn't know how the sun actually works.
>> You know, Earth is rotating. It's like uh it's it's it's a spherical spherical ball. Basically, what's happening is when one side is directing to the sun, that's when uh when you're going to see the sun, you do know that the sun goes in circles, right? Or or that the earth sorry that the earth is actually >> when it go circles, it goes down.
>> So, so the sun is not moving.
>> Sun does move. Uh >> not the sun.
>> It always moves.
>> But the fact the sun doesn't move. We are moving around the sun.
>> He doesn't 360 every single around the sun.
>> He believes in the he believes what's that model called?
>> Flat Earth >> basically. But I was talking about like heliocentric versus what's the other one?
>> No, it's basically I think it's a flat earth and we don't >> Yeah. Look, hold on. It's like this. Um so this is the sun. You do know this, right? This in in reality, the way it works is this is the sun and this is the Earth and we're the ones doing like this. You do know that, right?
>> You got to rotate the the microphone, too, because >> it doesn't it's not like this. It's like It's like this. You get Do you get it?
>> You have to microphone like >> What' you say?
>> Okay. So, so the sun doesn't go anywhere.
Yes. It moves in circles.
>> What?
>> Around.
>> Around what?
>> Around the earth.
>> Around the earth.
>> The sun moves around the earth.
>> Is this guy for real?
>> No, bro. This dancing the moon.
>> He's a comedian, dude.
>> This is what Islam >> I'm telling you. He's a comedian.
>> This is what Islam forces you to believe. I'm trying to tell you. Ilas, are your parents cousins?
>> Follow me.
>> I really need to know.
>> I had to come up after that one, bro.
>> Ilas, can you can you please tell me, are your parents cousins?
>> I was about to ask the same thing.
>> This is what he believes, guys. This is a real religion. This is these are real people that exist. You guys got to be, you know, be grateful that you weren't born in these places.
>> These are real people walking the earth right now. So, so on one side, so on one side of the planet, you got people like Elon Musk like >> inventing robots and and like flying to the moon and then on the other side of the planet >> there's these guys.
They still think that the sun goes around.
>> Yeah, he left. He left.
Yo, they >> because the Quran is the explanation of all things.
>> I have a hard time believing he was Muslim because there's no way that guy was real. Like he sounded like like he I mean, he fell for every single trap you put him in and he still didn't realize what the problem is.
>> Yo, he's he's those kids, bro. Did I send you that video of those kids in um in these Muslim countries where they they're like seven hours a day reciting the Quran and if they don't they put them in chains?
>> Literally.
>> That's him, bro. That's like >> that's all they know. That's all they just got.
>> They're just in their room like Quran Quran Quran.
>> Yeah, Quran.
>> Yo yo SC. You got a clip. You got a clip. When he said like when the sun set in like in the morning, >> the sun sets in the morning.
>> The sun sets in the morning.
>> Oh my god.
>> You had two options.
>> I think you got to clip that one, too.
>> Oh, that's definitely I I don't think he realized that that like the sun doesn't actually set in reality. I think I think he doesn't he really doesn't know that.
He thinks >> well they say the food doesn't you >> what?
>> I'm ready for round two if you want to go for funny hadith again.
>> No no no no no no.
>> We're just today we're just doing casual stuff. I don't want to be going down the the >> Well, tell me when's the next time you're going to do it and I'll prepare like a a huge >> Okay. Okay. Yeah, we could do it. We could do >> like there's some >> tomorrow. Yeah, we can do it tomorrow.
>> But I want to know if >> I want to know if you can actually this time show screenshots because I would love to send you the screenshots of some of the uh the hadith because I had to take photos of some of these stuff. You know, like you can't find these on the internet. These are actually translated by uh some other people. Like for example, there's a guy called Rob Christian who translates >> these hadiths that are untransatable.
Like none none of them have actually translated them. So, I had to take screenshots of them.
>> Are you by any chance? Let me see.
Because I think I'm in >> Yeah. Are you Are you in his Discord by any chance?
>> No, I I I don't use Discord. I've only been here on Club Sorry. I'm more of a Clubhouse guy. I just moved here like what a week ago.
>> Okay.
>> Uh to Tik Tok. So, >> yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just just send me a DM. We'll we'll figure it out. But yeah, the funny part to me is that these verses like these hadith, they make sense, right? When you're >> in seventh century Arabia, right? Like the sun, like where does the sun go when we don't see it, right?
It's like it's like, yeah, it goes under Allah's throne, but it's like they don't know that like we know now that like when you can't see it, somebody always can see it. You know what I'm saying?
Like we it never goes under anybody's throne at any point. Yo, but is it true that the the the Muslims were actually taking hadits and Quran verses out of the actual like Quran website? I heard this. I don't know if this is true.
>> Somebody I did see an example from uh the Jai and DOC or something. I don't know, but they did show an example where they they released a video on a hadith and then like it got the vi the the video went viral and then they went back to the website and they had like changed it. They didn't like delete it. They just >> Yeah, I saw that one.
>> Yeah, I forgot what they did to it.
>> They made They made a weak make it a weak >> They changed the >> Yeah, they changed the chain of narration.
>> Yeah, >> they change the chain of narration >> and uh even though if you go to the actual physical book, >> it's still the same.
>> So they >> they they physically changed it because they were so embarrassed. They were watching Christian Apologetics channels to avoid the embarrassment. By the way, I just sent you another hadith. This just this one. Trust me, you're going to like this one.
>> All right, let's pull it up.
>> It's so funny.
It's like a comedy show. Your your lifestyle like comedy show, >> dude. That somebody got to I definitely got to clip that. That's a whole That's a whole clip. All right. 3305. The prophet said, "A group of Israelites were lost. Nobody knows what they did, but I do not see them except that they were cursed and changed into rats. Okay.
Um, for if you put the milk of a sheic camel in front of a rat, it will not drink it. But if the milk of a sheep is put in front of it, it will drink it.
What the [ __ ] I told this to Cobb who asked me, "Did you hear it from the prophet?" I said, "Yes." Cobb asked me the same question several times. I said to Cobb, "Do I read the Torah?" [ __ ] I tell you, this is from the prophet. What the [ __ ] are we talking about?
>> He's putting a kosher and non-coosher milk to see if it would drink it. Then that's how you know if that's a Jewish rat or not.
>> Oh my god. That's what I Bro, this is crazy.
>> Well, it's a Jew rat test.
>> This is how I know. Like you know how when you show them verses where like it like Allah is clearly talking about Jews >> and they'll be like no no no that's a specific Jew that you know you got to know the con. They're not. This is what they think of Jews in general.
>> Listen as a Jew I can confirm we do sometimes shape shift into a into you know sometimes.
>> Imagine like that there is an advertising out there like introducing the new juret test. You know, you got a kosher and not kosher milk in a big in one packet. You put it in front of a if you want to see if you want to kill that rat.
>> This is real. Like people like it's just cra like >> I don't know if they're reading this and then just pretending that they're not or if they just never read this because they go around acting as if Islam is just about believing in one God. But it's so much more to that. It's this.
This is also Islam.
>> I think the royal guy thought it was a Muslim because he >> So the next time you see a rat, make sure you put a kosher and non-cos look before you kill it because it might be an actual Jew. Just letting you know.
I'm I'm still trying to figure out what he said here because he said um I said he said, "Do you hear did you hear it from the prophet?" Right? And then I said, "Yes." And then Cobb asked me the same question several times. I said, "Kob, do I read the Torah?"
>> He's like, >> he's like, "Bro, like why you asking me that?" I >> do I look like a tune to you, dude? Like of course I got it from the prophet.
Like that's what he's trying to say.
It's like, "Do I read the Torah?" He's like, "I don't know. You tell me."
>> Do I look like a Jew to you, bro? That's That's what he's trying to say.
That's crazy, dude.
>> That sounds like a Lauron Hardy moment or some [ __ ] That's hilarious.
>> These guys are wild.
Unbelievable.
Muslims. Muslims. Muslims. Muslims. What are we gonna do?
So these Yeah. So these Jews got lost.
They turned into rats. I do not see them except that they were cursed and changed into rats. So if you put the milk of a sheic camel in front of a rat, it will not drink it.
>> So are they talking about all rats?
>> Why do you think the Quran says Jews and Christians are the worst of all creatures?
>> Yes.
>> They're rats. Cuz they're all rats.
Yeah, cuz he's basically saying um a group of Jews turned into rats. But then he says, "But if you put milk in front of a a rat, it will not drink it."
>> Yeah. So that's how you distinguish between a rat and a jurat, right? Cuz there there are some that have turned into something. So that's that's why you put a kosher and a non-coosher milk to see which one will drink it. That's how you know.
>> Like I just want to make the biggest deal out of this. Like any Muslims that that want to come up, do you guys actually believe this? Do you believe that Jews turned into rats?
>> Yeah, I just shape. Look, I just shape [ __ ] >> Look at him. Nightmare is a dog right now.
>> Yeah, exactly.
>> Let's see. Put some Put some Put some camel milk in front of it.
>> Yeah. Put some kosher and non-coosher milk. See which one we'll drink. It might be a It might be a [ __ ] juice. You might have a a [ __ ] a [ __ ] [ __ ] juice.
>> This is crazy, dude. Like this is I don't Bro, if you want to keep showing Hadith, keep showing Hadith, I guess.
Let's Let's just >> All right, I'm going big some more.
>> This is just ridiculous, dude. Like, how do you guys You can't tell me that I have to believe this stuff just to say I believe in one God. Please, please tell me that's not what you believe right now.
I'm telling you, Muslim know more about Islam than Allah does.
Crazy.
It's a crazy religion.
Um, let me see here. I got people on YouTube. YouTube, how you guys looking out there? You got any questions that you guys want to ask people on YouTube?
Muslims in the chat explain for real.
>> Out of all the hadith that we've we've read so far from the other time and now like which one was your favorite? Like be honest.
>> It it gets better and better every time.
I don't know. Like I get I see one and I'm like, "Oh, wow. This is crazy." Or, "I can't believe they believe this." And then I get over it and then, you know, a better one comes. This one's This one's a winner right now. This one's in first place.
It's between this one and the other one where they take Muhammad's spit and rub it in their own face.
>> That's another one I like.
>> Uh there is one that I have, but it's a but it's a picture. I'm trying to find the actual uh hadith itself, but I can prove that Allah is Rick James.
>> Rick James?
>> Yeah.
You want me to prove it?
I guess one is the water like when they can't drink water while while standing because they then they have to vomit. It's like because water is something that you drink like day on daily basis, you know.
>> No. Yeah. This the what that last kid was saying though was reminding me why um cuz you guys all heard was it Kora? I think it was Kora that said that God is is temporal that he's within time and space.
And and this last kid reminds me why they're kind of forced to say that because if the sun can go to where Allah's throne is, then Allah has to be inside of creation, right?
Um, yeah, >> that makes sense.
>> I think they must explain how come the time zones if if the sun goes down under the tone, you know, I think that was a valid question. I didn't even think about asking this question because uh like I when like the question that I would ask him is um like um >> Oh, I didn't even see this part.
>> Go ahead. Finish nightmare. What' you say?
>> Yeah. The question I would ask him is um how can you um how do you say it? How is it that um that the moon and the sun revolves around us?
>> Mhm.
>> Instead of us revolving around like the moon and the sun because it makes zero sense for the sun to actually like revolve around us.
>> Right.
>> I sent you a new one.
>> Yeah, I got it. Yeah, it says right here. I didn't even see this part of this of the hadith. It says the sun runs on its fixed course for a term decreed.
So they do think that the that the sun is the one running around the earth.
>> There you go. This this disproves your whole religion.
Your whole religion is so so this is clearly wrong and Muhammad is the one saying it.
So >> Muhammad is a joke from that. So >> So your religion is wrong. I mean what what else do we need to see?
>> Says Ibent Tia believed Allah SWT is a beardless young man with curly hair.
Naila Ibent Mia Harani in the book Bane Talbis Aljaya in establishment of bottom Alcana. You could go a bit down. The source is a little bit a little bit towards the uh Yeah. Sorry. Up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up >> this part.
>> There it is.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Start from there. Yeah. As in the correct hadith from the prophet on the authority of Kadada, on the authority of on the authority of Ibn Abbas who said, "The prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, said, I saw my Lord in the form of a young man who still had no hair on his face, and the hair on his head was curly.
Sounds like Rick James to me.
>> And he's in outer space looking like this.
>> Could you like Rick James to me?
>> He's literally Hold on. I need to draw this. Hold on. I need to draw this. Hold on a second.
This has to get seen. We have to We have to get the visual.
>> Make sure you get the the Jewish curly hair.
>> Hold on a second. This hat. We have to get a visual.
>> The Jewish curly hair on the sides.
>> Hold on a second.
>> Or a Jerry curl. Which whichever you want. A Jerry Curl would be nice, too.
>> Hold on a second. This is what it's going to look like.
>> We got to get the >> What' you say, Nightmare?
>> Yeah, I got I got a good verse after that.
It's 456 in the one.
Like the verse that I want to show you is showing how Islam is a religion of peace and the stability and how they like people who are not rejecting who are rejecting like Allah and the prophet of Allah.
This is this is the one right here.
Everybody ready to see Everybody ready to see Allah?
ready.
>> I don't know if you're ready. You might You might think you're ready.
>> The final boss. Let's go.
>> Where is it? Why can't I show it?
They don't want me to show it.
>> That looks more like >> There he is, guys.
>> Yo, the hair reminds me of Medusa. I got to say, >> he should have put on a a a jacket for him in a Jerry curl. So he says, "I saw that he's a super freak.
>> I saw my lord in the form of a young man who is still had no hair on his face and the hair on his head was curly."
This this is what we're supposed to believe, right?
>> This is real.
>> And they have a problem with Jesus becoming God.
>> Right. Right. Like so basically this guy just came down to the earth and he was Jesus. What? Like how what's wrong with that? Like now what's the problem?
He's a man in outer space. Why can't he just come down? Was it like you say nightmare?
>> Yeah. Can you pull up a 456 one?
>> 456.
>> Yeah. It's uh showing how Muslims are very uh peaceful people.
The Quran is all about peace. Peace and love.
Luckily, >> 456.
What the hell?
>> Oh, no. This is talking about hell.
This is not that bad, brother. If it's talking about hell, hell is Hell is bad everywhere.
>> I was talking about I think that's what it's talking about.
Indeed, those who disbelieve our verses, >> we will drive them into a fire. Yeah, this is hell. Every time their skins are roasted through, we will replace them with other skins so that they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is exalted. Yeah, he's talking about hell.
But I mean, it still still sucks, I guess. But >> I thought it's like uh what he's supposed to do to disbelievers, but >> No, no. Yeah, this they'll say this stuff about hell.
>> Okay.
>> But uh you know, still beautiful though, right? What a beautiful, beautiful God.
He's going to burn your skin off and then put it back on and then burn it again.
Yep, that's real.
Ghost said that I have to add two right hands in a shin. Oh, I forgot about that. Damn.
Forgot that part. this. Yeah, that AI made them look too normal.
God, he has two right hands in his shin.
But remember, they're not like our right hands and not like our shins. That's the most important part.
>> Well, I took it from a Reddit post that say if all if the Quran was all about peace and love and then it's just like deleted bunch of lines about like the Quran.
>> Found a bunch of racist hadits. Uh, I just posted the link.
>> Racist Hadis Patreon.
This is This should be interesting.
Let's see.
>> They're all listed together, which is kind of interesting.
>> Let's see. Let's see. Let's see.
Let's see.
Racism in Hadith and Islamic biography says I have heard equating a black man to Satan. I have heard the apost the apostles say whoever wants to see Satan should look at knob tall.
He was a sturdy black man with long flowing hair.
Um let me see blah blah blah. In this passage from the earliest biography of Muhammad, we see blackness directly equated with satanic imagery. Nal, a black man is pointed to as a visual example of Satan. A black man will destroy the Cabba.
A black man with skinny calves will destroy the Cabba. Wait, when is this supposed to happen?
They believe the Cabba is going to get destroyed at some point. That's interesting.
>> Yeah. Well, the funny thing is it has been according to their own sources. Uh the the the uh >> Yeah, I know that they said it's going to be >> Yeah, the rock or the what? What about the rock?
>> Yeah, the rock was already like it's it's a it's already been fragmented by another uh raid that happened by another clan.
>> Mhm.
>> And uh out of uh and when they did a peace tree, they they brought it back and and it was just in pieces. So that particular rock was a smaller piece of a larger one.
>> So I just want to know when do they think this is going to happen. I know this is supposed to be funny but I just want to know reality. This prophecy coming from the most respected hadith collection in Sunni not only invokes racial imagery but attaches it to this destruction of the holiest site in Islam.
That's interesting. Let's see. Black man as most hated creation. The most the most hateful among the creation of Allah is one black man among them. The Quri.
Obey even your ruler. Obey even if your ruler is a raisin head. Is a raisin.
Obey even if your ruler is a raisinheaded black slave.
You should listen to an obey your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian black slave who looks like a raisin. Uh rather than showing equality this statement oh no blacks referred to as pugnos slaves in another narration blacks are referred by Muhammad as pugnos slaves okay this characterization he's just giving his conclusions though I need this the actual text disease as a black woman I saw in a dream a black woman with unkempt hair going out of medina and settling at Mahaya I interpreted that as a symbol of a epid of Epidemic of Medina here. Yeah, we know that creation of whites for paradise, blacks for hell.
Allah created Adam. He struck Oh, this is the right shoulder one. He struck his He struck his right shoulder and there emitted white offspring. He struck his left shoulder and there emitted black offspring. He said, "To the white they are for paradise and to the black they are for hell.
This is the part I never really understand is because like um there's some stories like this and then there's also stories where I guess one of his slaves became Muslim.
So >> yeah, you're talking about Bil. So I guess they're just basically saying like I don't know like they >> it could be Stockholm man >> like they suck unless they become Muslim. Is that kind of the that kind of the idea? Ahmad Iban Abi Sullean Shaun's companion said that whoever says that the prophet was black is killed.
The prophet was not the prophet was not black.
>> You know what that book is? The that's a that's a book. That's the earliest Sharia book that you could possibly imagine.
>> This is what they actually believed in in the 12th century. This is >> this is really really old.
>> So you get unalied for saying the prophet is black. So >> yes, that is bad. That's as bad as like apostasy >> pretty much.
>> I think the the pocket was racist.
You you don't get you don't get the death penalty if you call him a China.
>> So or an Indian for that matter.
>> I think after the it was an experience that changed him, you know. Uh >> yes, >> stop seeing black people as as good people.
>> Oh man, what a weird weird religion. And but remember guys, the takeaway is you can't believe in one god unless you also believe all this stuff too. You have to believe all this stuff that everything that we just read in the last hour. You have to also believe that. Just remember that.
It's very important.
>> Hey, Scary. I got to go. Talk to you later, man.
>> Take care, man.
This is crazy stuff.
>> Nightmare. What's going on over there in Israel, bro? We we're we're fighting with Iran again. What's going on?
>> I don't know. I don't know, bro. I'm I'm not part of the of the border deciding over a war with Iran, you know. In few years, maybe.
>> I think it's just Trump doing it this time if I'm not mistaken.
>> Yeah, Trump is our president.
Yeah, we'll see what happens, man.
Honestly, this is taking a little long.
I was kind of hoping it would be over by now, but they keep making peace treaty.
They just made another peace treaty today, I think.
>> With who?
>> With Iran.
>> Peace treaty? No, it's not peace. It's like a deal for like to basically for them to like get rid of their uranium deposits.
>> Yeah. Because they're trying to make nuclear.
>> Yeah. Just they just bomb each other and then the next day they're like, "Okay, we're back having a peace deal." And then bombing each other and peace deal.
>> Yeah.
>> I wish we should just >> I think we should have just like um basically get rid of the entirety of the regime as best we can because a med Iran is not what we we planned on getting after that war. Basically, uh it's it's I'm think it's very underwhelming. You know, the the results of that war are very underwhelming.
>> Of which >> I would hope for.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I I wanted I wanted more from this war, but yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um that's the thing I don't like either. It seems like they've kind of given up on on uh liberating the people. That's really what I wanted to see.
>> Yeah. the the results we wanted from that war were not that uh it's kind of like Yeah.
>> Yeah. Like I think we we went >> this far. I think we should just finish the job. You know what I mean?
>> Exactly.
>> And it's what everybody wants. Israel wants that. Saudi Arabia wants that. All the all the Sunni Muslim states want that.
>> Look at that. Look at that. Put on the big It's funny.
>> What's this?
>> It's funny. That's fine.
>> If Islam was all about peace, love, and justice indeed indeed those who arrive them into into into fire into into a prison every time they they are replaced.
They replace them with other community services.
So they may taste the the the punishment. Ah, the empathy. Sorry.
Indeed, you are you are you are exalted in might and wise.
>> Yeah, we need one of these for Did you make this?
>> No, no, no. I got it from Reddit. They have like 14 of those.
>> We need one of these for for verse 29.
For chapter 9, verse 29.
>> Let me let me see. I I might find it.
She She made like 17 of those. So, let me find it. Yeah, we need one of those for 9 vers 29. Fill in all the words that Muslims always say when we read the verse. And it doesn't say none of that.
I'm about to wrap it, guys. About to wrap it in a second. Just see whatever nightmare shows Guys, if you're not following on Tik Tok, go ahead and follow. Uh if you're not if you want to rewatch any episodes, uh go to Scary Hours Podcast on YouTube.
Both of them are right under >> uh she she she did on she did 17 of those, but none of those 929. The fact that she managed to to find 17 different things that talk about disbelievers and like to analy the disbelievers, it's quite quite wild to me, you know.
And she she didn't even mention 929.
>> Look at Ghost. Ghost said, "Let's have a civil war and end it now."
>> Exactly.
>> That's where it's going to go.
Unfortunately, that's that's definitely going to happen in the near future.
>> I think uh I think Europe is going to definitely have a civil war at some point.
>> Yeah. If you guys want to get rid of like the the Muslim immigrants, the when they say globalize the inif, they mean globalizing the inif because inif was like an event that happened in Israel where 174 Israelis got alive from the attack.
>> I just the part that I get confused about I don't know how even Muslims would want to live under under Sharia law. I don't get that part. Like you can't drink standing up. You have to if you drink standing oil, you have to throw up, right?
You have to like they tell you how you can pee. They tell you you can't listen to music. You know, you're gonna go to you're going to get like stoned if you do Zenna. Like, I don't know about you guys, I like to do Zena.
>> The [ __ ] that we can do?
>> Leave me and my Zena alone, dude. Mind your business.
And I'm sure that we didn't even scrape the surface by the way of those.
>> It's going to be terrible. It's going to be horrible if we if we get Sharia law.
Exactly.
>> And I and I promise you, Muslims will be the first ones to revolt out of it. They they they won't want it. They'll be like, "What the hell? What if we made a mistake? Let's go. Let's all go back to being Christians or Jews or something."
>> No music.
>> No music. Like that's Is that wild? Like what is that? No music, no beer. You can't have a beer. You can't you can't take a You can't have a rum and coke.
>> Yeah, you can't you can't have um uh alcohol in general. That's something just prohibited.
>> Also, >> everywhere you go, everyone's going to be dressed in in this in this ninja outfit. That's what you want to see when you go outside, dude. Like, this is crazy, dude.
Sorry I came a bit late today because I I had something to do. So >> yeah, that's all good. I'm gonna wrap it anyway though. I'm I'm go wrap it here.
Appreciate you, Nightmare. No problem.
Keep keep take care of yourself.
>> Thank you, bro.
>> Everybody else, um you know, my apologies for today. I didn't really prepare a topic, so we just kind of uh bullshitted a little bit. We still got some funny clips. We got we realized that um uh Islam teaches you that the sun revolves around the earth and that when you can't see it, it's because it's going underneath Allah's throne, which apparently is somewhere inside of our galaxy.
So, who knows? Maybe maybe we can find Allah one of these days. You know, we we fly out far enough. We just got to follow the sun and eventually Allah's throne will be there, right? Like go said, you got to make it through the muddy water.
But yeah, that's it. We're going to do it for today. I'll see you guys tomorrow.
Peace out. Peace out.
YouTube, also you guys, thank you guys for watching. all of you. Make sure you guys are Bro, send some super chat.
I'm just playing. It's all good. I appreciate you guys watching.
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