“Keith King” MJP Ep.184

Added: 2026-05-16

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[00:00:27]>> Guys, the Premier League weekend, man.

[00:00:29]Yeah, they here cooking Man United. It's a 6 minute, >> so you can tell what time we're recording.

[00:00:34]>> How you guys doing?

[00:00:36]>> Welcome, welcome.

[00:00:37]>> Welcome back to the Mob Jazz podcast.

[00:00:40]>> Do we have a nice breaker? You have a nice >> negative.

[00:00:48]I do not have this, bro. Uh, we just finished our life. Um, I know we're here today. It's just the three of us again.

[00:01:00]>> Casper is not feeling well, so she's not on this episode.

[00:01:06]This is episode 183 4 >> podcast.

[00:01:17]Okay, >> I'm okay. I like that number.

[00:01:18]>> Yeah. 185 sounds better. 184.

[00:01:24]>> Um Yeah, man. Oh, you guys know when I think you want to tell us how you feel because once we discuss our feel on the patron also discuss it on the pat ordinary guys.

[00:01:36]>> We'll give we'll give them tidbits.

[00:01:38]>> That's fair. Um I think I'm fighting off something. I feel unhealthy >> but you know people are like your >> lymph nodes is telling you otherwise cuz I feel like the point of the lymph nodes is to store like a secondary system.

[00:01:53]>> Yeah. that fight like bacteria and virus or something like that.

[00:01:57]>> So, I'm feeling I can feel like a swelling here, but otherwise I'm calm, man. I had a decent week. I'm >> security checkpoints and waste filters containing immune cells that identify and destroy bacteria, viruses, and abnormal cells.

[00:02:12]>> So, some bacteria is being destroyed around here, bro.

[00:02:15]>> I getting a bacteria again. No, no.

[00:02:28]>> This week?

[00:02:29]>> Yeah.

[00:02:30]>> Started taking shirts.

[00:02:32]>> Sh. Okay.

[00:02:34]>> Oh, for gym.

[00:02:34]>> Yeah.

[00:02:35]>> Yeah. Do you still go the same gym?

[00:02:38]>> Man, I haven't been going to the gym.

[00:02:39]This is for >> Yeah. But it's your gym. So, >> it's my gym.

[00:02:43]>> Is actually Monella. my membership almost >> so I probably gym it's a nice gym I think it's one of the best choose >> but back to the the shake >> sh like I've been sleepy this whole time I've been trying to boost my appetite I got a bunch of And I don't want to like leave it >> cuz Yeah. I feel like there is some change I wear myself.

[00:03:22]>> Can you feel it? I >> actually feel it.

[00:03:24]>> Nice.

[00:03:25]>> You know, I was on Tik Tok the other day. One guy advertising some weight called nectar.

[00:03:33]>> It's a chibto.

[00:03:35]>> It looks like a bottle of pesticide.

[00:03:38]>> Those are big things.

[00:03:40]>> A big plastic thing. Okay. I don't even know what to tell you. Just have you seen what bottom pesticide?

[00:03:46]>> Yes. Yes.

[00:03:47]>> Black Opaque bottle. Not black. Sorry.

[00:03:50]White opaque bottle.

[00:03:51]>> Yes.

[00:03:53]>> And it has a cheese sticker on it.

[00:03:55]Obviously, there's no [ __ ] on that.

[00:03:57]>> Yeah. That guy made in his home.

[00:03:58]>> There's no even fine print.

[00:04:00]>> It's just big words. What what it helps with >> weight gain or weight loss or Okay.

[00:04:08]>> Uganda.

[00:04:08]>> Uganda. Uganda.

[00:04:10]>> Nectar. It is >> like the nectar. We know like nectar.

[00:04:14]Nectar of the flowers.

[00:04:16]>> It's spelled with one A.

[00:04:18]>> Nectar has an A.

[00:04:19]>> No, it doesn't.

[00:04:21]>> Nectar. N E C.

[00:04:22]>> That's vector.

[00:04:26]>> Is it?

[00:04:27]>> Nectar is T R.

[00:04:30]>> What is that?

[00:04:32]>> What is that?

[00:04:33]>> Spelling B was going to go crazy, bro.

[00:04:38]>> Um, yeah. Yeah, you I think you I think you'll find a balance for me. Just >> I just couldn't work like >> you'd have it and you're now just too sleepy.

[00:04:49]>> You're sleepy and it's also so sweet.

[00:04:52]>> I just But there's also the option, of course, it takes much more work, >> but there's option to make your own shake and then add it as extra. So, uh shout out a friend of mine called, uh like he works at a place called Timla.

[00:05:10]Yeah, it's a health place and uh the shakes you would make it's actually here in Bos literally on the next stroke after you have and uh the shakes have like you so you make your own fruit shake bananas what healthy fruits then add it in there so you're still getting the benefits >> of your fruits your protein and everything else you have the benefit Yeah. Yes. But also the quantity of the milk matters.

[00:05:44]>> For me, I've been feeling like a whole >> Yeah, that's that's crazy business. The quantity of the milk matters.

[00:05:49]>> Two bananas, peanut butter.

[00:05:53]>> Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot.

[00:05:56]>> When I blend them together, >> that's a lot.

[00:05:59]>> The whole thing.

[00:06:00]>> You have a blender?

[00:06:01]>> Yeah.

[00:06:02]>> Then you you can make research on the types of shakes to make for lactose intolerant people.

[00:06:08]The only problem is it takes of course you know when you've come back from the gym and you're lazy like the day you've pushed but just like with the energy to make a protein shake it in the morning.

[00:06:22]Okay, that works then.

[00:06:24]>> In the morning, I I ch like half a liter and then when I'm back from the gym, I >> But you know what?

[00:06:32]Just like that.

[00:06:39]>> What is those?

[00:06:51]>> Yes, it does. But it's creatin. It's not muda protein. Uh what? It's not like whey or anything. Creatin you don't need as much as the others.

[00:06:59]>> Yeah. So, it's literally like a scoop, like a spoon.

[00:07:05]>> Yeah, it's not as much. So, and to be honest, the difference between a gym session when you've used it and a gym session when you haven't, you would feel it.

[00:07:16]>> You would feel it cuz you can really feel that like this one has taken everything out of me. Whereas the other one we like, I've worked out, but I feel like my muscles are still working.

[00:07:29]>> Yeah, they're still alive. Yeah.

[00:07:31]>> Yeah.

[00:07:32]>> Guys, um >> I need to get you taking that and you're not working out. Is there a thing that can come out like a side effect?

[00:07:40]>> Not really, but okay. Yes, it's not a side effect, but it's your diet. You proteins are bodybuilding food >> overload. So now if you'reing proteins without building your body, they're just going to be converted into other things.

[00:07:57]So it will be a thing of like I'm ying all this protein but it's useless. So it's not really a side sc. But if anything you're getting more calories and you're not >> what I know what I know is the effect that the weight the muscle gainers can have on you is it can help with your blood sugar >> that as well.

[00:08:17]>> Yes. Because it like spike your blood sugar can get a bit dangerous especially now if you're not water enough you're not drinking water >> yeah can you >> and this is the thing with blood sugar you don't have to have diabetes for your blood sugar to spike >> it can just spike cuz diabetes is longterm okay that's type two right type one is genetic and stuff type two is lifestyle that one is longterm but the days when your blood sugar can just spike and because we are relatively younger, you will feel sluggish.

[00:08:53]>> It won't be as detrimental as like say a parent who is 65 when their blood sugar spikes.

[00:09:02]>> It can be the end.

[00:09:03]>> Yeah, it can be the end.

[00:09:05]>> Yeah. Anyways, um what are we discussing today?

[00:09:09]>> As far as the call to action, >> copy the one from last week. You guys know what to do.

[00:09:22]>> We'll just >> The one from last week that we recorded >> that put it.

[00:09:26]>> Yeah.

[00:09:26]>> Yeah.

[00:09:27]>> Now >> you're supposed to make a new one.

[00:09:29]>> Yeah. Supposed to come to you and make a new one today.

[00:09:33]>> We could have actually come to your place.

[00:09:35]>> Well, the plan was come to use today for me changed to come here cuz she wanted to do something wanted to do.

[00:09:40]>> But now she's not feeling well.

[00:09:42]>> Yeah.

[00:09:42]>> Anyways, um not feeling well.

[00:09:44]>> What are we discussing first?

[00:09:46]Should we attack Brazil?

[00:09:49]>> Brazil.

[00:09:51]>> What's the guy's name?

[00:09:53]>> Misha. That's what I know. Mugisha or Migisha.

[00:09:56]Mugisha. Kid.

[00:09:59]>> That's actually the name. Yes. Yes.

[00:10:03]>> Ah. Um. So earlier this week, the Ministry of Internal Affairs paraded three individuals on national TV.

[00:10:14]um alleging that they had been caught and they were part of an international drug like ring. Right. The leader of the crew according to these guys was a Ugandan called Misha King. Is it Mugisha?

[00:10:33]>> Either Mugisha or Migisha.

[00:10:36]Let me check. Yeah, I remember King was >> Ke King King was there >> and he was using a company called King over over Keith King Company Limited some [ __ ] like that. And apparently most kid >> apparently most of the company holdings were paper stations paper stations. So this guy here was caught with >> a shell shell company.

[00:11:04]So this guy apparently um was a convicted criminal. He had been arrested and and uh imprisoned in Kenya 12 years >> 12 years >> in Kenya. He was arrested in 2010 at the airport >> with cocaine >> like enough to distribute.

[00:11:29]>> So they arrested him. He entered for 12 years. The guy got out, apparently went to Brazil.

[00:11:39]In Brazil, he was arrested again, got out on bail, handed in his Ugandan passport as his uh not security, but like I suppose that like his thing for bail like to assure them and then he left Brazil after meeting >> after Melbourne. There's a penalty check.

[00:12:02]>> Yeah.

[00:12:06]He left Brazil with a Brazilian passport.

[00:12:11]>> Yeah, I'm trying to get that details.

[00:12:13]>> And now moved back to Uganda.

[00:12:16]So now when he came back to Uganda, the immigration here had already been flagged about him. So he came back, went home. Now when they went to his home, they found that the home was held in the gate.

[00:12:30]Every entrance to the house from the gate had biometric like security as in for you to enter. The guy at his gate was an armed guy in military fatigues.

[00:12:44]The guy had >> they called fatigues.

[00:12:46]>> Yeah.

[00:12:46]>> Crazy.

[00:12:47]>> He had like a camel replica >> kind of but the military uniform.

[00:12:53]>> Yeah. They like camel. They came. So he he at his gate as at his residence it had written like on a plaque ambassador residence diplomat. Yeah.

[00:13:09]>> Right. So they enter a guy's crib. The guy has obviously luxury cars um with sirens and [ __ ] in front of them.

[00:13:22]Tinted windows. The guy's cameras everywhere.

[00:13:26]The guy has guns in his >> like a fortress, >> bro. He had guns in his >> money and living in the house with him were these two other Nigerians.

[00:13:39]Um, so the rest of them and of course now start saying how everyone in the community thinks this guy is like a diplomat or whatever. But here at 2 a.m.

[00:13:50]every day, they would hear gunshots coming from the guy's house. Um, the guy can be like as if escorts, what? So anyways, man, they are going to charge him and like send him >> just to add, he had different passports.

[00:14:14]Yeah, more passports >> including SES, Kingdom of Esatini, Belgium, UK, Brazil as well as national IDs of Kenya, Nigeria.

[00:14:26]>> Isn't that crazy? same guy >> and the two Nigerians were called testimony udo >> testimony >> and anointing very very Nigerian but also his wife miss yeah I can't say that name is in Brazil's in Brazil >> yeah bros that guy is a gangster apparently has been moving in his He has a video.

[00:14:58]>> Yeah, there's a video of like the guns.

[00:14:59]There's a video of him >> like online.

[00:15:03]>> No, >> is him.

[00:15:09]>> There's a video of him being buried.

[00:15:10]He's there. He's standing there and he's been talking.

[00:15:14]>> He was saying [ __ ] like, "Why don't you show them my license also?"

[00:15:17]>> Show them my license. Show them my license.

[00:15:18]>> Show them my license.

[00:15:19]>> Yeah.

[00:15:21]>> It's crazy, man. You don't think the cartel has reached Yugji? But >> no me I think I've known it. I think it's just really interesting that like >> also what cartel is it? That's my question.

[00:15:33]>> Mind you, they also found like IDs of the office of the president.

[00:15:37]>> Yes. Headed letters.

[00:15:38]>> Yeah. Letters. What? So these guys be you see it's two possibilities. Either they actually connected and working with guys with >> in the >> guys in the government >> or in the government >> or these guys are scammers through and through.

[00:15:56]>> How can you have all this fire power?

[00:15:58]>> Yeah, you've seen the gun possession.

[00:15:59]>> You've seen the guns.

[00:16:00]>> How in a country like >> that's what guys in the comments are asking like where did you get the guns from?

[00:16:06]>> Brother, it's it's mad >> because legit they look >> they look legit man and they might look legit. They probably are in fact >> because if he's using these IDs at the airports and everything, they are legit.

[00:16:20]>> I remember watching on on Tik Tok sometime last year a Kenyan MP complaining that non Kenyans were being given IDs through like a corrupt system as in just cuz they're connected. Have you seen Have you heard of this Zimbabwean guy?

[00:16:40]Like a Zimbabwean tycoon, some fat young.

[00:16:44]>> Yeah, I know the guy talking about. Yes.

[00:16:45]>> So, he has a Kenyan ID like what guy Kenyan ID >> is not Kenya.

[00:16:51]>> A lot of those guys have the connections in say their internal affairs to be able to get that ID >> for you.

[00:16:58]>> Yeah.

[00:16:59]>> So, it's not a foolproof system that you can't get a folded ID.

[00:17:04]>> That's legit still. You know, I thought that uh once you put your uh your print, your fingerprints, your entire movie turns, it's like you go through a database for internal affairs rather for interop to be able to know whether this person like this person maybe he's a Uganda once you put it here this person already has an in what they do is they register like see the thing is not all the ID >> database databases are linked to interpol in that way and even if they are like it may seem simple to us because we have the internet you may think like it's a simple thing to integrate but it's not >> now you see for example in certain countries like the states they have the databases of identities but in addition they have like DNA >> yes >> and then they have like tax information like they have all that [ __ ] versus now us who we just have a just track to your name maybe your team maybe You know, we're not yet.

[00:18:06]>> The general consensus in all these comments is that there's no way this guy does this >> without help.

[00:18:12]>> Yeah, for sure.

[00:18:13]>> That's the general.

[00:18:14]>> He's not alone. He's not alone.

[00:18:16]>> No, that one. Yes.

[00:18:18]>> But it's definitely also help from a party that can afford to. Does that make sense? First, his drug trafficking ring.

[00:18:28]>> No.

[00:18:29]>> But yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. But see this guy [ __ ] is so expensive because Brazil Brazil Brazil >> Brazil bro UK >> UK Belgium this guy has an international girl here for >> the fact that he went in for 12 and came out and is still on the same [ __ ] the money must be too much. in mass meeting and you know it was probably not a thing of what do they call it when seizures are they called seizures where like >> all that >> yes where they you go in and then they take your property to pay back >> that's probably not what happened but now they're for sure >> but now >> do you think >> for sure >> they've linked it all to that company and the company is in his name as good with the company being name they will seize it but this is the money.

[00:19:25]>> They don't need the money. Don't take the petrol station.

[00:19:27]>> Just just the petrol station.

[00:19:28]>> Also, I wonder which petrol station there >> can be weeping and like there's a shell here. That guy is from it.

[00:19:43]>> Have money but at what cost? Bro in the comments that when was it 21?

[00:19:48]>> Why does he have all those guns?

[00:19:51]>> What is he losing those guns? So, it's not like they state that even the citizens >> in 2013 in Uganda, they grabbed a South African woman >> with $2,000 worth of cocaine in 2013.

[00:20:06]Guess what? 12 years later, I guess 13 years later, they have grabbed this girl. Could it have been the same ring?

[00:20:14]Who knows, bro? 200k worth of cocaine is nuts. But do you guys remember in how like >> Oh my god.

[00:20:22]>> What is happening?

[00:20:24]>> Uh it has not been plugged in, >> guys.

[00:20:34]We just found out a wireless charger that we were not we were not recording.

[00:20:39]>> It charges while recording.

[00:20:41]>> Yeah, we're not recording audio. We're charging the phone, bro.

[00:20:45]>> Anyway, you'll tell us what it sounds like in the comments, I'm sure. Knowing you guys, you'll tell us what it sounds like in the comments.

[00:20:50]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:20:51]>> Uhhuh.

[00:20:53]>> Um, we're still on Keith King.

[00:20:56]>> Keith King.

[00:20:56]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:20:58]>> I forgotten exactly what it was.

[00:20:59]>> You're talking about that chick who was caught with uh $200, $200,000 worth.

[00:21:04]>> Yeah, that's why I stopped, but then you were saying something else.

[00:21:07]>> Any me. All I'll say is like it's crazy that they caught Keith King with all these things, but obviously he's not the only one.

[00:21:16]>> Definitely. Um, and you know what's the most interesting thing to me is genuinely this is the type of country where you can just act like you're important and guys will treat you like you're >> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz you have all the stuff you important. This man had ambassadors.

[00:21:32]What ambassador?

[00:21:33]>> How dare you even put ambassador residence on your on your thing? Which am ambassador of where?

[00:21:39]>> Cuz I I presume all the ambassador's residences are known.

[00:21:43]>> Yeah. Who is this guy? Um you guys honestly I don't think that fine you can say that but it's not everyone knows that.

[00:21:51]>> No but they're known by the government.

[00:21:53]>> Yeah.

[00:21:53]>> For you to have an ambassador's residence in Uganda the government knows.

[00:21:58]>> Now who is the government? Question is who's the government?

[00:22:00]>> Who's follow up on this?

[00:22:02]>> Exactly. Who's going to see it and be like I'm the police as an ambassador?

[00:22:06]>> Come and ask you the you the ambassador of where? Can they come and inquire?

[00:22:10]>> Yeah. Come and inquire.

[00:22:13]>> Yeah. surprised that guy was even a him and the chairman were >> do we know where the do you know where the home was do we know >> it was it was in >> sasa something like that >> I can't say the wordasa >> where is that >> if it's inas >> like sasa >> I can't say it you know what ambassador >> sasa okay >> now which ambassador script is sasa >> Keith Keith >> and you see that's The problem ambassador of Brazil >> dozens >> guys be having dimes dozens.

[00:22:48]>> Yes.

[00:22:48]>> Right. So it's not unfamiliar to see a nice car to but now mob guys have sirens on their cars.

[00:22:56]>> Literally you see a car UBG >> siren stopped. The police is scared to stop. They don't know who's inside.

[00:23:02]>> Now you stop the guy. The guy shows you a thing of office of the president and there's nothing you can do.

[00:23:09]Anyway, man. But you know what's funny about those things?

[00:23:13]when they are caught I don't think they do they really follow up to know how they actually got those legit documents >> the problem >> of course first of all they call them forged >> oh >> they are calling all of them forged documents >> but I think there are some seals not things which you can't get >> things you can't like counterfe >> it has to be coming from a certain place >> now they because too many guys would have to go down for that >> if they've caught only one guy they'll just say everything is forged and they'll blame him for all of this.

[00:23:42]>> But also question is if I have a seal from the office of president for you do you know what it looks like >> you offended you know what the >> I can just say office of the president debt put some random code of arms you know what it looks like >> but I think once they say it was like he had this there is also an organization or like what a group of people who know the real thing it looks like >> the real thing >> and they'll also try to check whether it's actually the right thing This guy >> I believe it probably the right thing though they can't really attach to the person.

[00:24:15]>> You'll find that the guy knows what the right thing looks like or he got the right thing from someone >> but not through the proper channels.

[00:24:21]>> No, you can't put that guy you can't bury that guy with you.

[00:24:24]>> It's actually scary, bro. Scary. But >> how many ambassadors residences are actually ambassadors?

[00:24:32]>> We're going to have to >> and also all those weapons he had, bro.

[00:24:35]That's >> He had guns, bro. Bullets. Okay, first of all, I'll say it's off camera. Remind me.

[00:24:41]>> He's going He's going down, bro. He's going down.

[00:24:44]>> Yeah, he's going down. They've picked him. Even the fact that they've paraded him like that. He's going down.

[00:24:50]>> It gives the cartel vibes, bro. That's how they do that [ __ ] >> But a cartel can never be one man.

[00:24:55]>> Yeah. No, a cartel is literally a ring, bro.

[00:24:58]>> So, >> yeah, >> unless you're going to use him to get to other guys, >> there's no point, bro. And that guy, let me tell you, the way that guy was talking and looking, >> that guy has no plans of cracking. Not as nature a guy >> he will go to jail >> stone gold criminal >> he's another 12 years and the c will reward him for it >> like >> cuz the guy the guy did >> passport >> 12 years from 2010 ends when 2022 >> the guy came out and he already has all that [ __ ] bro four years he already has all of that [ __ ] so you can imagine how how much he has sold that period >> the crazy thing is that you can't just get out >> cocaine bro like a lot of people think those drugs are not there in Uganda like cocaine People think Uganda is only like >> local drugs. Yeah. Weed. What?

[00:25:42]>> But do you guys know where Brazil is?

[00:25:45]>> You know, to get to Brazil, you have to first go to the US. He's moving that [ __ ] Transatlantic, bro.

[00:25:56]>> Is that Atlantic or Pacific?

[00:25:58]>> Atlantic.

[00:25:58]>> Pacific to Atlantic.

[00:26:00]>> Yeah.

[00:26:00]>> To Indians like >> across all the ocean. cuz that guy has touched Belgium, bro.

[00:26:07]>> It's It's nuts. It's nuts. Whatever operation he's running, well done.

[00:26:11]>> Have to respect it.

[00:26:12]>> But I kind of feel like guys, the [ __ ] we watch in movies, that shit's actually happening. We just don't know.

[00:26:17]>> Of course, the movies are based on real life.

[00:26:19]>> It is. We just don't know. And even directors are that creative. That just >> the movies are based on real life. The writers are being told stories, clear, believable narratives, bro, about the [ __ ] that's happening.

[00:26:32]>> Yeah.

[00:26:33]It's nuts.

[00:26:34]>> It's crazy.

[00:26:35]>> Anyway, next topic.

[00:26:36]>> Yeah.

[00:26:37]>> Do you want to talk about the xenophobia in South Africa?

[00:26:40]>> We can talk about it. We can talk about it.

[00:26:42]>> So, as we know, it has always been there.

[00:26:44]>> It's not a new story. It >> has reached a new high, bro.

[00:26:48]>> A new high.

[00:26:51]Um I don't know what you guys have seen but me the one thing I saw was last week how they're saying even the tourists now are being attacked cuz normally they they attack like settlers and people from other countries tourists are being attacked but then now the new one you were high >> is if you're South African woman and you've married a man from another country go don't stay in our country go cuz what and there was the baby was asking about it in particular in that video was saying South African women who have married Nigerian men why you still in our country >> go back to Nigeria with them >> I don't know about the South African men marrying other women I don't know about that one but that's the one I saw it's nuts and of course you know now I don't know that's a conspiracy or like facts on ground but the people are saying that like the people funding you guys to do this you know you know it is they always people always say like behind every riot behind there's always funding >> is it >> some of them yes if anything most of them >> are really just trying to break you your togetherness your African spirit and you'll realize it when it's too late because why are you attacking your fellow African just because they are married to someone in another country.

[00:28:20]It does not make sense, man.

[00:28:22]>> Of course, it's a scarcity thing.

[00:28:24]There's no better example of the scarcity [ __ ] bro.

[00:28:27]>> What do you mean?

[00:28:28]>> Because you see, South Africa, as big as it is, and with all the resources that it has, most of the resources are still being held by a minority population.

[00:28:36]>> Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

[00:28:38]>> So, South Africans, black South Africans feel that, and let me not obviously I'm not generalizing, the ones who the xenophobic ones. M >> feel that part of their limited resources are now also being taken by non-S South Africans and because historically they have failed to kick out the white South Africans or the white settlers or I don't know what the PC word is now >> they have to kick out the guys who are more recent they're easier to kick out because for them they actually have a place where they can be sent to >> the roots are not that deep.

[00:29:14]>> Yeah. These white people have been there since feel like 200 years, bro.

[00:29:20]>> Yeah.

[00:29:21]>> There's nowhere for the guy to go. The guy has been here his whole life. His dad was here. His granddad like >> they have a they have roots that go that that far.

[00:29:30]>> But now this guy who has just moved here, he's a first generation chap.

[00:29:35]Seems easier to bounce, right?

[00:29:37]>> But like see what they fail to understand is the world is no longer in that place, bro. It's really not >> where your country is yours despite all the nationalism that's going around in the like in the Trump era like at the end of the day the world is now so globalized that you can't say no one should move here no one should be living here except South Africans just don't make any practical sense bro >> in the same way South Africans live in other places you know >> and that's the question like so now the South Africans elsewhere what do you It's so and also you see it's not like South non South Africans who are moving there are taking up like over are providing cheaper labor than the South Africans who >> it's actually a policy that like to start a business it has to be majority owned by South Africa.

[00:30:35]>> Yeah. But you know like in America them they argue that these guys take up all the jobs that are like >> take up all the cheap jobs that maybe a regular American >> construction and stuff. Yeah.

[00:30:46]>> And in America they say but you guys were not taking these jobs and these guys came and are doing them. You they're doing the jobs you guys were unwilling to do. Right now in South Africa it's a bit different than that bro.

[00:31:00]A lot of guys are being hired for jobs that South Africans are either unable to do >> or where there's not enough South Africans doing that work. So, we're bringing guys in to do it.

[00:31:11]>> You know what I mean? So, I don't know.

[00:31:13]It's >> the entire thing is it's a mess, bro.

[00:31:16]It's a mess.

[00:31:17]>> And it's sad that it's like, >> you know, like in the US they argue for black onblack crime.

[00:31:23]>> It's almost the same thing, bro.

[00:31:24]>> Exactly.

[00:31:25]>> It's almost the same thing.

[00:31:26]>> It's so sad. But >> I'm still monitoring the the situation in South Africa, but it's not looking good, man.

[00:31:33]>> It's not looking good.

[00:31:34]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:31:36]>> Lots of prayers, man, to all of our like all our people down there, man. Everyone who's there in school who has family there. I have a cousin who actually just came back from there. I want to ask him what the what the vibe is. And you know, unfortunately, you'll find these guys are just a loud minority, bro. Like most South Africans are not on this [ __ ] bro. But it's just a loud few guys, bro, who are causing havoc, bro.

[00:32:03]>> Yeah, >> yeah, yeah.

[00:32:05]>> Okay.

[00:32:05]>> H virus.

[00:32:07]>> Hirus. You take the lead on that one.

[00:32:08]>> I don't want to take >> the lead on that one. The dirty one, bro.

[00:32:12]>> H virus.

[00:32:13]>> Yeah.

[00:32:14]>> So, virus is a virus. Of course, it's in the name. It is spread through mice, stroke rats.

[00:32:26]They are what what they call waste.

[00:32:27]>> Yeah, they are waste >> and a few other things but mostly mice and rats.

[00:32:32]>> There's a particular variant called like the Andes. Is it Andes or Andes? I don't know if they said, but Andes, I'll call it Andes >> that has been found in a few places now, but the most uh prominent one they're talking about was a cruise ship >> that departed from the Netherlands or was going to the Netherlands, >> one of the two.

[00:32:53]>> And they found a bunch of cases. Now in comparison the fatality rate of COVID was 0.08%.

[00:33:04]>> This virus is 35 to 40 >> this variant of that virus.

[00:33:09]>> Yeah. This particular variant.

[00:33:11]>> Yeah.

[00:33:12]>> And on that cruise ship there were eight cases.

[00:33:16]>> I believe it was eight.

[00:33:17]>> Okay.

[00:33:18]>> Yeah.

[00:33:18]>> How many have died? Three. Two.

[00:33:20]>> Actually don't know. I don't know that far.

[00:33:22]>> Two. I remember two died when when the story first broke out. a couple.

[00:33:25]>> Oh, I I I did not know that.

[00:33:26]>> And like while one was taken to to a hospital.

[00:33:30]>> Yeah, I did not know that.

[00:33:30]>> Some emergency issue.

[00:33:31]>> How is it spread from human to human?

[00:33:34]>> Literally like a virus. So >> if I call fluid. Oh >> yeah. Them ones like viruses. Most viruses spread the same airborne like a virus is not a bacteria where we have to exchange particular fluids. Virus is a virus like >> it will spread just like that.

[00:33:52]>> Any fluid. Yeah. So things like that >> ordinarily it doesn't spread human to human >> this particular variant does but hunter virus is not human to human it's rat to human >> yeah but this particular thing >> can be spread not is mostly spread >> but can be spread human to human >> now all the studies I've seen is you know everyone is panicking pandemic pandemic could happen but all the studies I've seen say that if anything has that higher mortality rate. It doesn't spread as a pandemic. It will be an epidemic. It can be an endemic. I'll give you an example. Ebola virus >> very very fatal.

[00:34:35]>> Yeah.

[00:34:36]>> But it can't be a pandemic cuz you know pandemic is global.

[00:34:39]>> Yeah.

[00:34:39]>> Because it kills guys before it can even spread.

[00:34:43]>> You get? Now the question is how like the Netherlands handles it cuz it's mostly in the Netherlands now and we have a few patrons in Netherlands. So tell us what the what the situation is like but 35% fatality rate is crazy business man >> crazy >> of course the abolas and mugs of this world are worse but I think part of it is also the panic of having something like corona which could the whole world and now everyone is in this is in a frenzy of like oh my god what's going to happen but I guess we'll see what happens man for now it's limited to The guys in that cruise ship, they have been quarantined um in I think a particular hospital or hotel.

[00:35:27]>> Bro, no. Last I checked, the ship was like just left there in the middle of the of the ocean like >> Yeah, but now they took it back to Yeah.

[00:35:36]>> But they had left them there.

[00:35:38]>> They left in the middle of the ocean.

[00:35:40]>> Yeah. The ship. The cruise ship >> that cuz you know cruise ships are prepared for >> days.

[00:35:45]>> Yeah.

[00:35:46]>> Weeks even.

[00:35:48]First child them they said you guys first sort yourselves out by time you touch land it better be sorted so I didn't even know guys had passed >> you know it's crazy how [ __ ] can fester because it's mice bro it's rats that have caused this problem >> mice >> rats leaving waste and maybe the cuz it's a cruise ship maybe the cleaning team was not doing a great job so it just kept growing and now guys enter their rooms and inhale this [ __ ] and die >> also the rats get it >> you No. Uh what is it called?

[00:36:20]>> I feel like >> animals be having all sorts of things.

[00:36:22]>> Cuts are more like vectors >> and then there has there has to be a way how it is passed on from one one uh rat to another.

[00:36:31]>> Probably probably to be fair >> rats are >> but those things be having everything animals.

[00:36:38]>> Animals >> rats are actually like some of the [ __ ] some of the dirtiest [ __ ] bro. That [ __ ] gives us g some of our worst vibe worst like diseases. Remember that [ __ ] was a black plague of rats, bro.

[00:36:50]>> [ __ ] >> It was not the black plague. It was the plague.

[00:36:55]>> The plague.

[00:36:55]>> Black death.

[00:36:56]>> Black death.

[00:36:58]>> Bro, >> like it's always rats or monkeys, bro.

[00:37:02]>> Guys killed them for no reason. Now they are going to actually hunt for them.

[00:37:07]Let me tell you this virus thing has people in a panic bro. But I don't I definitely don't think it will become a pandemic. But it's scary that such a virus can start from a rat which might be in your home.

[00:37:20]>> I don't know if I've asked you guys this before. Are you scared of rats?

[00:37:23]>> Not really.

[00:37:24]>> No. You know. Have you killed one before?

[00:37:26]>> Yeah.

[00:37:27]>> Yeah.

[00:37:27]>> Yeah.

[00:37:28]>> Not a mouse. A rat.

[00:37:29]>> Yeah. Yeah, you >> I mean they don't walk around with IDs, so I can tell whether it's a mouse or mice or a rat.

[00:37:38]>> They look different, bro.

[00:37:39]>> They do look different, though.

[00:37:40]>> Rats are big bastards.

[00:37:42]>> And you can tell from the ears as well.

[00:37:44]A lot of people have mice. Not rats.

[00:37:47]>> In my high school, we had rats. I killed one in high school.

[00:37:50]>> Hey, >> wait. Are the mice the one with the pointed mouth?

[00:37:55]>> Both of them do, but like >> But rats are bigger.

[00:37:57]>> The anatom is different. Yeah, >> rats are bigger. Even their shape mice are more round >> compact compat.

[00:38:06]>> Actually, I thought it was more like American and British English >> like alligator and crocodile. But even those on different are different.

[00:38:13]>> And rat and rat and mouse is very similar to alligator.

[00:38:17]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we have both rats and mice and moles here.

[00:38:23]>> I've never killed a rat that's like moving freely. Bro, >> you've never >> I've only killed a rat when it got stuck in a in a trap. Those gum traps.

[00:38:32]>> Those gum traps you.

[00:38:34]>> That's the only time I've ever killed I've killed like like two or three rats and there times where it would get stuck in the gum trap.

[00:38:41]>> I couldn't kill it, bro. I just carry it out on the trap, bro.

[00:38:45]>> Yeah. There's a time we had that car gum trapping and it's stuck on one side. You first close it.

[00:38:51]>> Yeah, that was my thing. I would always close it. You must close it and be like, "Now it's dark. Take it outside."

[00:38:57]>> I remember a night where I woke up cuz I had a we had a rat problem in our house where I was living.

[00:39:04]>> I woke up, the rat had gotten stuck on a trap, but only one leg was stuck in the trap.

[00:39:14]And and you know what's funny was the front leg >> and the like the as if like >> that trap >> it was trying to move and you know they be passing under the door so it's trying to move under the door but like it can't get out.

[00:39:30]>> So I woke up I find it giant rat battling with a trap. It can't go behind the cupboard. It can't go out of the door.

[00:39:37]It's other legs are working but like so I what I do is cuz I I don't want to get close to that thing. I get like a broom or something.

[00:39:46]>> You must push it back onto the onto a trap.

[00:39:49]>> I turn the book on top of it like this.

[00:39:53]Turn the book on top of it. Now it's covered by the book >> and it can't move.

[00:39:58]>> It can't move >> cuz that jazz is sticky. And you know I realized it's it must be so like to them even the removing from the trap >> remove from the trap. I throw it away with a trap. Yeah.

[00:40:11]>> Chill.

[00:40:12]>> Wait. You mean like every trap the whole book and a trap >> I would throw I'll throw the trap with Jake it.

[00:40:19]>> No but this trap >> but even the jing looked painful because you're not removing it as a whole.

[00:40:24]You're moving it as part. So like the legs would stick and you see them straight would be too much.

[00:40:29]>> Yeah. No, that's where I would kill them from. And it was always I didn't enjoy that killing process. Sometimes I'll just close the book and just throw them in high school. It's just a single use.

[00:40:38]>> And you know, high school killing a rat is not you're panicking.

[00:40:44]>> But this is a communal process.

[00:40:46]>> Did you see this video? Did >> you see it flying?

[00:40:50]>> See this video of these guys? They were putting are they called firecrackers things?

[00:40:56]>> They had tied a rat on it and then they >> Oh, I remember that.

[00:40:59]I remember that.

[00:41:01]>> No, >> I remember that.

[00:41:02]>> The look on their face, bro.

[00:41:04]>> Terrified, bro.

[00:41:05]>> Terrified.

[00:41:06]>> No. And you see like >> unfortunately like fine, they are dirty.

[00:41:11]They spread diseases, but I be feeling sorry for them, but also you my shirt.

[00:41:17]>> What confuses me is I know some of this [ __ ] is very dependent on the environment and whatnot. But now a place like New York where they say they are more rat infestation than humans.

[00:41:27]>> Yeah. are human beings in New York on that island >> where they outnumber the human beings.

[00:41:31]Yes.

[00:41:31]>> Crazy.

[00:41:32]>> Like it's >> Manhattan and Staten Island. They do >> and New York is one of the most populous places on earth. So now if there are more rats than people, why doesn't that [ __ ] happen to them there? Why is it happening on a [ __ ] cruise ship in wherever?

[00:41:47]>> Cuz not all of it's almost like malaria.

[00:41:50]Not every female an Mosquito spreads them. It's uninfected >> female and small.

[00:41:57]>> Exactly. That's actually the main question I was asking. How is it transferred from one rat to another?

[00:42:01]>> I don't know.

[00:42:02]>> I feel like it's more like you know how uh jack fruit can't get you bloated.

[00:42:07]Rather, it can't give you what food poisoning >> and coke can't give it to you. But when you take them at the same time, you can get it.

[00:42:15]>> Jack fruit and what?

[00:42:16]>> Jack fruit and coke.

[00:42:17]>> If you take them at the same time, >> why would you do that?

[00:42:20]>> Auntie.

[00:42:21]>> Auntie. So he's saying combination.

[00:42:22]Sometimes the combination of [ __ ] that makes >> a combination of two things can lead to a certain >> Yeah. You find it's funny things like maybe the the temperature in New York is too low.

[00:42:33]>> It kind of [ __ ] like that. Yeah.

[00:42:35]>> And the part of that virus it can t >> that's where the rats be.

[00:42:45]>> Let me Does New York flood?

[00:42:47]>> I don't know >> what >> New York does it flood?

[00:42:50]>> Cuz it's heavily on the coast. It's like very very waterbased.

[00:42:53]>> Yeah.

[00:42:54]>> I actually don't know.

[00:42:55]>> I think we should talk about the the rains this week on Thursday.

[00:42:59]>> Oh my god.

[00:43:01]>> Did you see that [ __ ] >> Downtown of Thursday.

[00:43:04]>> Oh god.

[00:43:06]>> Cuz I don't know. I stay fairly far from town. Not too far, but fairly far >> in that I would sometimes the weather in town is not the same as the weather at home. But that day the rains did not start in the morning for us. It started like 100 p.m. like early afternoon.

[00:43:23]>> That's when it rained. Yeah, >> that's when it rained.

[00:43:26]>> And the rain was actually heavy >> as it was.

[00:43:30]>> Heavy rain. I don't know where you were, but Thursday afternoon rain it was >> heavy, bro.

[00:43:38]>> No, it was cloudy. Probably it was actually these days I wake up early.

[00:43:41]Probably it drizzled a bit. Uh-huh.

[00:43:43]>> I remember a gloomy look out, but I don't think it actually rained.

[00:43:48]>> That train messed up our road. It was heavy.

[00:43:51]>> It rained hard.

[00:43:52]>> Right now today, they are fixing the roads because of that rain.

[00:43:56]>> We have a real problem, bro, on our hands where when it rains like that, you can feel the collective panic of guys in Campala. Bro, guys know it's about to be a mess. So, I was telling you guys that we left. I was in Mango when the rain began. I was at a meeting with a client.

[00:44:14]The rain was so heavy, we couldn't walk out to the car, right?

[00:44:20]In fact, the car wasn't even with us cuz I'd gone to town with my mom. The driver had taken my mom somewhere else and they were supposed to come back and pick us up.

[00:44:30]>> They couldn't My mom couldn't get out of the building where she was to get to the car. Even when she did, the driver couldn't drive to where we were because of the floods.

[00:44:41]When it eventually reduced a bit, she got in a car, they started coming. When they arrived, we got out. We leave Mango headed towards Bugal Lobi.

[00:44:54]>> We use, you know, Arena Mall, you know, a tunnel at Arena Mall. So, we drive in that direction. As we're driving towards that tunnel, we see someone driving towards us.

[00:45:06]>> I know a tunnel is split.

[00:45:08]>> If you headed in this direction, you have your side of the road. Headed in that direction, you have your side. This person is driving towards us. But on our side of the road, we're like, "Hey, this person make made a mistake or they didn't know that like this was we thought they were dumb until we enter that tunnel and notice that that traffic goes all as in guys were I've never parked in that tunnel. We were parked inside the tunnel cuz the cars could not move. Do you know we had to back out of that tunnel >> as in we parked we were in the tunnel for like 30 minutes. Someone came walking from the front. He said, "Man, I sent a guy on a border ahead. The road is blocked like the water has crossed the road and now we can't move." So we reversed everyone in a tunnel, bro.

[00:45:56]Reversed out of it and used another route.

[00:46:00]And those are people avoiding that the floods in like central Campala.

[00:46:04]>> Not just avoiding the floods won't let you move. They won't let you pass.

[00:46:08]>> It happened to me another time when I was in the middle of town like Sheraton sides. I was coming from from commercial court in a caser.

[00:46:17]>> Yeah.

[00:46:18]>> I was trying to drive.

[00:46:19]>> Commercial court is on that road that goes up to the round.

[00:46:22]>> Yeah.

[00:46:23]>> Commercial court. So now I'm coming back. I'm passing like along Sheraton.

[00:46:28]No Sheraton lights. My plan is to come down, drive between Sheraton, go down now towards like Garden City. Oh, that road was flooded. First of all, that upper road there.

[00:46:39]>> I continued coming down.

[00:46:40]>> This is Nakasero.

[00:46:42]>> That's Nasero is a hill. Now you can imagine, you can imagine if it's flooded up there.

[00:46:48]>> But >> what is down on Campala road?

[00:46:50]>> So I'm now trying to drive down. I can see I can see that there's nowhere that my car is going to go.

[00:46:56]>> Yeah. I just park there at like if you guys know where Standard Chat is there.

[00:47:00]>> I park there.

[00:47:01]>> The amount >> next to the independence monument.

[00:47:04]>> Yes.

[00:47:04]>> The amount of water that was around me >> rushing down towards like Campala road to downtown to I was like brother >> I feel like that's just a result of like bro >> that's not a result of one person closing the drainage channel. That just seems like a lot more.

[00:47:26]>> That's years and years and years. Cuz you see in the past, I think that could happen. But you knew where the water was going to go.

[00:47:34]>> Yeah.

[00:47:34]>> There was somewhere for the water to go.

[00:47:36]>> Yeah.

[00:47:37]>> For the water to go, bro. Water is going to go. Go enter guys shops. Guys will remove it slowly by slowly more.

[00:47:42]>> It's going to go down towards that channel that that this guy built on top of. It may flood something, but eventually it will go under there cuz the funny thing is the water drains. Let me look for the Pioneer Mall video.

[00:47:54]>> The Pioneer Mall video was bad, bro.

[00:47:56]Pioneer Mall is brand new. But Gay, now how was old Pioneer Mall, >> man?

[00:48:02]>> What was happening to >> like in a basement or type [ __ ] >> Cuz that means for them the water must have been at their windows like this, >> bro. What?

[00:48:15]>> It's bad, bro. Now imagine cuz you know how these malls are set up. The ground flow is not exactly the end. There are basement flows.

[00:48:25]>> What's happening down there? Yeah.

[00:48:28]>> But look at the speed at which that water is moving outside.

[00:48:32]>> It's the fact that the entire mall is reflective like >> the light is still shining on the mud water >> and the water and then outside it's a rush of water like so how do we how do you fix for something like that if you're the owner of the >> it has to be abandon planning but I feel like it's even too late right now. But if you're the owner of Bion, what do you do? Is there anything you can do?

[00:48:53]>> Nothing.

[00:48:54]>> Anything you can tell your clients who are paying you rent?

[00:48:56]>> Nothing. There's nothing you can do >> cuz your building even though it's not on top of a drainage channel, we have such a massive drainage issue and it has not started recently. I'll give you an example. This industrial area, they have just stomach it.

[00:49:15]But if the way it's tmarked is they have tmarked the section that always flooded before they have kind of raised it stomach.

[00:49:26]What's going to happen is that section will now be everywhere around it.

[00:49:32]>> But have you noticed not they've not used stomach?

[00:49:36]>> I I literally saw it today cuz you know I must never use this route.

[00:49:39]>> They've used like concrete like concrete segments. Eh, they've used that. I don't know if it's a scientific reason for it.

[00:49:48]>> Maybe for like the water to seep through the gaps cuz if they if they segments >> No, they they're how else to put this.

[00:49:55]You know, Mark is like one like >> Mhm.

[00:49:58]>> So they've they've used instead like concrete B segments with ridges in it.

[00:50:03]So when you drive on the road, it feels like you're driving on like a like the bridge type thing. Like the way bridges be >> like bridges you know bridges have that car gap in case like it's too hot and it takes time to expand and >> contract.

[00:50:15]>> So now like the whole of sixth street sixth street is where the wild was they finish it that's what it is.

[00:50:22]>> Okay. Now I'm talking about that that junction there then you're coming towards >> now that junction there it's half and half there's tarmac then I've only seen the section >> that rough thing and the stomach again.

[00:50:36]>> Now that that's my question. And you see that rough part >> that one will still flood.

[00:50:40]>> This other section where that drainage channel is and those other inner roads, the back roads will flood.

[00:50:48]>> Like our drainage is so bad.

[00:50:51]>> The water should be going into that drainage channel. But on a rainy day, the road will be flooded. That drainage channel will be cover.

[00:51:00]>> I think the main problem is one. Yeah.

[00:51:03]Water has no destination.

[00:51:04]>> It doesn't have where to go. Cuz even if you decide to be like, "Okay, let's go this route of building tunnels so that water just passes under the city." Then >> where is it going?

[00:51:13]>> Cuz that's what they've done.

[00:51:14]>> Water always flows downhill.

[00:51:16]>> And that's the thing.

[00:51:17]>> Where is it going?

[00:51:17]>> Always flows downhill.

[00:51:18]>> The water is going >> at the bottom of the hill. Water should be able to be soaked up into the earth.

[00:51:26]>> That's always how drainage works.

[00:51:28]>> That's how it works. So even the sewers reach a point where it is soaked up into the earth or it goes to a plant to be processed and refined. We don't have that in Uganda. So it has to be soaked up. But the the places to soak it up >> are now foundations.

[00:51:45]>> Yeah. For buildings concrete >> but it's one of the biggest failures.

[00:51:52]One of the biggest failures of like the city planners bro because >> so bad he has no solution. the places were there where the water was supposed to go was there.

[00:52:00]>> All those drainage channels lead somewhere.

[00:52:03]I'll get let me show you how how it connects because that one from Bugos here >> connects to the railway of electoral commission. You can see behind that railway there is a channel that connects to Nachiv which is via that tunnel >> that connects to downtown where the actual drainage channel is supposed to be. Nachivo was in Victoria >> was in >> channel does it like >> supposed to lead the water there that is the drainage place do you know at gap where there's like where that chano is opposite arena is a gap day >> yeah yeah yeah >> that gap >> but you know that channel >> that's also part of a channel it's not that the place but it's part of the channel >> even is on that channel yes even supposed to be a channel.

[00:52:55]>> They're like buffed feeder channels.

[00:52:57]>> Yes.

[00:52:58]>> The all the channels are supposed to go into that >> main channel, >> that downtown channel. You know what scares me about this [ __ ] When we were younger, I don't know if this happened for you guys, but when I was in P7 S1 is when I did my confirmation.

[00:53:16]>> Okay. And what confirmation was used for was to kind of teach you to be like semi-independent to know that okay if I need to go from this place to this place I pick my taxi from here then I go then I get off the taxi from here then I walk from here to here. So that's what we what what confirmation did for us. You leave home in the morning, maybe you leave with your parents or whatever, they drop you at church. But when you're coming back, you leave church with your friends, you go down to the stage, >> you enter a taxi, the taxi takes you.

[00:53:48]>> You did it from all sense.

[00:53:49]>> I did from all sense.

[00:53:50]>> Yeah.

[00:53:51]>> But now I'm thinking with my kids >> as we speak now, guys with kids don't let their kids use taxis or use public means already. But say I wanted to wanted my kid to maybe I couldn't pick them up. Maybe old taxi park, >> right? So if if that was the case and it rains and my kido is in town >> and be swept up, bro, >> swept and you know many guys have died in this floods. Like the water takes you and taking you along the road, you will survive. But it will take you along the road, but you can't see the trench.

[00:54:26]>> But now the water takes you into a trench and now you're down.

[00:54:28]>> Now I can be >> even know where the trench is.

[00:54:30]>> I can be swift in my shop. What happens if I I'm in my shop, I've had no customers. That day I've dozed off. I've eaten lunch. I've dozed off. Then I wake up and it's just water around me or like the way those guys can have their shop.

[00:54:45]The guy the guy has his carress behind the table. He lays down to pass.

[00:54:51]>> Next thing you know, you're swallowing water, bro.

[00:54:54]>> Man, it's brown.

[00:54:56]>> Brown water, bro.

[00:54:57]>> Yeah. You don't know where it nonsense in it, bro. They get hunter virus boss.

[00:55:03]>> And you know guys, street guys have no idea. The guy just [ __ ] on the road.

[00:55:06]Water will come and wash it away.

[00:55:08]>> Yeah.

[00:55:10]>> Virus carriers too.

[00:55:12]>> Yeah.

[00:55:13]>> You know like sometimes when I see like a heavy storm like a heavy rain. Yeah.

[00:55:18]>> Mhm.

[00:55:19]>> Like a heavy downfall.

[00:55:21]>> Yeah.

[00:55:21]>> And I be like standing in my sitting room. I'm like damn there are guys there who are worried. Be like the house is either going to fall.

[00:55:29]>> Yes. water is coming to see this. Yeah, >> I'll give an example when cuz you guys know I was in Chi between Chibi and Green there's a Green Hal Green Hill >> there's a slam called Aundi on the shiniest of days I need you to understand it's Bi >> those guys where you know what is >> you can sit down and you look and they have corridors of slams cuz you know they have those corridors that go between cribs what >> it's like a maze bro >> m water so even I feel like even water from normal places on the shiniest of days still goes dead.

[00:56:09]>> What's that Disney movie we always talk about? Queen of what?

[00:56:12]>> Katwe.

[00:56:14]That Queen of Cwin stuck with me.

[00:56:16]>> It actually scared the [ __ ] out of me, bro.

[00:56:18]>> It's so messed up, bro. It's so messed up. Like, you need to understand.

[00:56:23]We complain about the heat.

[00:56:26]We want some, you know, cloudy days, some rainy days. For some business people in downtown that heat they're not complaining cuz they know once it rains >> in uniod >> when it's rain when it's hot you feel the whole >> I don't know how I would still be there bro >> downtown >> I don't know how I would still be there bro >> but bro it's not that they don't have like it's not that they don't want to be they want to be there they don't have an like an option the best place to be >> you see now they're those guys they're the guys of the slams But not what about the guys downtown, bro? You're doing biz, but bro, >> you're paying double for your guys are even like working on loans.

[00:57:08]>> Those guys probably see clouds and they're like, "Wait, [ __ ] >> What have the guys done? How have they protected themselves? Have guys got floaters now that like so when it rains there, things will just float up. Have the guys now got like waterproof packaging that they use for >> I wonder what the pricing of rent is like. If it's a basement shop, >> what are you charging?"

[00:57:27]>> Yeah. in comparison to like a top floor shop >> to justify that >> to risk my property and risk my life.

[00:57:35]>> They put me in a basement shop and I see water dripping from the roof. But remember Jennifer tried to tell guys >> that all the buildings should have underground parking and guys instead made it underground shops.

[00:57:49]>> My guys want to squeeze every dime from their building. Bro, >> but you can find a set of apartments with eight units and underground parking of two cars.

[00:58:01]You're like, boss, >> where do you want your There's a parking.

[00:58:07]>> I think eventually to be safe, the government may have to now just outlaw those underground shops.

[00:58:15]>> It's a fair deal. The only problem is a lot of these places need licenses and you get those licenses from government and they already approved. It would have to be like a new policy.

[00:58:24]>> Yeah. A very new policy without lobbyists cuz the lobbyists will say don't pass it.

[00:58:31]>> We already making money from there.

[00:58:33]>> Yeah. You you'll be messing with guys money but >> it's nasty. It's nasty.

[00:58:39]>> Right now makes sense >> the guys will catch basia from those shops. Then Bill running nasty [ __ ] like that. Guys, brown water is not >> anyway. Um, yeah, >> we move another topic or we go to subs.

[00:58:58]>> Let me see. The other topic is a Nick Canon thing, but >> hey, first time we had Nick Canon thing actually. Okay.

[00:59:04]>> Really interesting.

[00:59:05]>> So, Nick Canon's accountant. I'll give you the the details.

[00:59:09]>> Yeah.

[00:59:10]>> Nick Canon, well, money manager, that's what they call him. He's called Frank Musoki.

[00:59:19]>> Bendan guy. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:59:22]>> Frank Musoke, a former accountant manager at a high-end Beverly Hills, where's it gone? Management and tax firm, is accused of spending several years siphoning cash from Nick Cannon and it totals up to about $2 million.

[00:59:40]And now he's on the run. He has been hit with an 8count indictment claiming he leveraged his position uh managing the business and financial affairs of elite celebrities.

[00:59:53]So of course the the indictments don't mention Nick Canon but everyone knows it's Nick Canon cuz that was like his biggest >> right. The feds alleged Musok's access gave him control of Nick's debit cards and pins and he abused that access from December 2019 through to June 2023 to withdraw roughly 1.7 million from ATMs spending more than 165k on Amazon purchases 192k on personal travel 160k in miscellaneous personal expenses >> in total prosecutor say embezzled more than 2 million from Canon without his knowledge or permission. Canon has repeated report reportedly been a client for nearly 20 years at the farm.

[01:00:39]>> Then this was his personal guy from 2019.

[01:00:43]>> So yeah, that's what's happening.

[01:00:45]Although it is believed Mus has fled to Uganda where reportedly holds EO citizenship with the United States. If convicted, he faces up to 20 years in federal prison for each wire fraud charge. each >> each and up to five years for each tax evasion count.

[01:01:04]>> That's a charge >> here for life, bro.

[01:01:07]>> That's okay.

[01:01:10]>> Cuz you know those heavy charges tend to be in the RICO act.

[01:01:14]>> Mr. Rainboy is not surviving.

[01:01:15]>> What's in full again?

[01:01:16]>> Mr. Rain Boy is not surviving this.

[01:01:19]>> No, is rainboy.

[01:01:22]What's thunder? Oh, that's earthquake.

[01:01:25]>> Quake is earthquake. Then there's Ladu.

[01:01:28]>> Ladu. Yeah. Yeah. Have a boy called Lu.

[01:01:31]Ladu. I remember Lu.

[01:01:33]>> Ladu. Okay. Rico is definitely not this cuz it's raketeer influenced and corrupt organization.

[01:01:38]>> It's not that.

[01:01:39]>> Yeah.

[01:01:39]>> But >> 20 years for each.

[01:01:43]>> But can they can they can they have him what do they call it where they they take you to >> ex not >> extradited.

[01:01:49]>> Extradited. Yes. Extradited.

[01:01:52]>> If he has dual citizenship, I believe they can >> from Eugene. Yeah, >> cuz he has and I think we have those treaties with the US. But like >> do we still have >> Can the government jam?

[01:02:05]>> I don't know man. Like it depends on also you think boys country.

[01:02:11]>> Do you know what >> and US have boys?

[01:02:14]>> Right now the US is I don't think they're boys with anyone bro right now.

[01:02:18]>> Ah they have a bunch of guys. Maybe maybe Israel.

[01:02:21]>> They have a bunch of guys. But Venezuela, what? They still have their people.

[01:02:25]>> But um >> Venezuela.

[01:02:28]>> Yeah, cuz remember the Venezuela president was arrested and now the new one is like >> Yeah.

[01:02:34]>> being boys and being >> That's what I was going to say. There's Codio, then there's boys.

[01:02:38]>> The US and Uganda still codio.

[01:02:41]>> Okay.

[01:02:41]>> You get like it's not like US Palestine or US. Yeah, they're still cordial.

[01:02:48]>> Would they give him up? I think they would.

[01:02:49]>> You think so?

[01:02:50]>> I think they would.

[01:02:51]>> The question is, hey, will the government find him?

[01:02:54]>> He might as well be in an ambassador's house somewhere. $2 million.

[01:02:58]>> $2 million spending bill.

[01:03:01]>> You guys know what it means to spend 160k on Amazon, >> but over a certain period of time.

[01:03:08]>> Yeah. But 160k on Amazon. You guys, >> something funny about stolen dimes or stealing dimes, they add up when you're not looking, bro. You don't realize how much you're taking >> $2 million >> when the money is so much that like you can just keep on taking but it adds up slowly by slowly by until >> you can no longer explain it to the guy whose money you've taken and even you yourself when they show you the total how much you've taken your PL >> and you can even ask yourself where is this money >> be like that is what $2 million feels like this money >> cuz if they give you $2 million as a lump sum you can be like hey >> let me put this Yeah, let me let me build this kind of house. Let me that $2 million comes in $100 increments. That money can boom. And you know, spending money should show you how also how like growing money also can happen slowly by slowly and then the next thing you know, >> you've collected so much money and you genuinely don't even know.

[01:04:10]>> Money is so fal, bro. It's so fal. This guy probably doesn't know where this $2 million is.

[01:04:17]>> He didn't have it. He doesn't have related toes.

[01:04:22]>> Different fo and fo matter and fo different spellings.

[01:04:31]>> Very different spelling.

[01:04:32]>> The next spelling we are going to grab and fo. Okay.

[01:04:37]>> It's so fo bro. Yeah. Cuz >> I can promise you Frank Mo. Okay.

[01:04:43]Unless he was investing that dime somewhere. He didn't have those $2 million. It's probably in random random assets. Amazon purchases.

[01:04:51]That guy didn't have them. Like I I bought a spectacular lamp.

[01:04:56]>> I just hate that. I hate that his name is Musok because he's feeding a stereotype.

[01:05:01]I was praying to God that his name wouldn't be a name.

[01:05:05]>> That that name is a name we know here locally. Frank Mus.

[01:05:09]>> Yeah. Anyway, man, >> we move, man. We move.

[01:05:13]>> Yeah. Let's do some subs.

[01:05:14]>> Let's do some subs.

[01:05:16]>> Actually doing really good time.

[01:05:18]>> You guys are ready.

[01:05:19]>> Ready.

[01:05:20]>> Sub number one. I'm not much of a drinker, but a cold glass of beer look looks fresh. Looks as fresh as 3:00 a.m.

[01:05:29]water. Guys, when you're sending this subs, that's me typing properly. It's just hard to read, boys.

[01:05:36]Uh, >> I'm not much of a drinker, but a cold glass of beer looks as fresh as 3:00 a.m. water.

[01:05:42]>> A cold glass of milk. Bro, >> a milk drinker.

[01:05:48]>> You guys still take whole milk or you prefer flavored milk? Nah, of course you.

[01:05:52]>> Yeah, but >> I don't know why I'm asking that.

[01:05:54]>> Me neither, bro.

[01:05:57]>> Fair enough. I'll ask the rest. Yeah.

[01:05:59]>> I knew I entered a new tax bracket when I annoyingly spent two days on data without realizing. Hey, >> today's on data.

[01:06:07]>> Yeah.

[01:06:08]>> As in >> you have Wi-Fi but you're on data. You be like, "Oh, damn. Was I?"

[01:06:13]>> Fair enough, man.

[01:06:14]>> Hard.

[01:06:16]>> The plain >> sle flex.

[01:06:18]>> Let me see. The plain gin is good, but the Gil's mixed berries flavor gin tastes like juice. It is so amazing.

[01:06:25]>> We don't have >> Is it still there? We do not have it, man. I know it was here for a bit.

[01:06:29]>> Yeah.

[01:06:30]>> Mixed berry flavor.

[01:06:31]>> I believe it was. Yeah. The pink one.

[01:06:33]Uh, pink purpleish.

[01:06:34]>> Yeah, I've seen it on the on the mic check, guys.

[01:06:37]>> Yeah, it was here for a bit. It was here for a bit, but I think >> bring it back, bro.

[01:06:41]>> Have you guys realized that now internet or Wi-Fi has become like a basic need?

[01:06:46]>> Oh my god. So much. So much. You actually >> I'm sure even them, >> they can't believe the amount of growth they've achieved in the past like few years.

[01:06:55]>> Yeah, man.

[01:06:56]>> Cuz you know in COVID time it >> wasn't a thing yet.

[01:06:59]>> Yeah, man.

[01:07:00]>> Guys were using mobile data.

[01:07:02]I worked with mobile data.

[01:07:03]>> Everyone now everyone like >> it's like a thing you enter into someone's house they have like >> maybe we are touching me doing come status >> that's crazy.

[01:07:16]>> What helped is they brought the price down.

[01:07:19]>> They did. Yeah.

[01:07:20]>> Back in the day remember a month was like 350k.

[01:07:23]>> Wi-Fi was expensive as [ __ ] >> And meanwhile that's wired. Like you would get a wire connection had Wi-Fi had Wi-Fi and he was paying something silly for it, bro.

[01:07:35]>> Wii. You're not getting fiber. You're getting the satellite.

[01:07:38]>> Oh, the point.

[01:07:40]>> Yeah, that one. Yeah.

[01:07:42]>> Yeah. Once he trains >> now in KBP.

[01:07:45]>> But guys, also you have to consider the fact that maybe the people we associate with of a different class.

[01:07:52]>> Fact, you know, people like Mizo.

[01:07:55]>> Yeah. Okay.

[01:07:57]on a bus with Wi-Fi is like 110 150 and their rent is like 100 but no one is paying that.

[01:08:08]>> Yeah, but what you don't know things are different from the ones I'm thinking.

[01:08:10]What you don't know is that's a problem.

[01:08:12]>> Guys are splitting it.

[01:08:14]>> Oh, >> guys are sharing it. Guys, you see that >> where is Wi-Fi?

[01:08:18]>> That fiber box that is over junction box people. It is feeding those houses. Guys have it. Guys have you guys have Wi-Fi.

[01:08:28]>> Really? It's Tik Tok, bro.

[01:08:30]>> Guys need to be on >> and it takes data.

[01:08:33]>> Yeah, >> you guys need to be on.

[01:08:35]>> I can take a bunch of data.

[01:08:37]>> Cut this out.

[01:08:38]>> Really think about this question because initially you'll say of course not.

[01:08:42]>> Do you think humans would be better off without communication as in the ability to speak and language and its barriers >> and its barriers? It's such an interesting question actually.

[01:08:55]I was listening to something this week and it was talking about how like I can't remember if what they were trying to communicate was that language was super important for humans or that language was one of like the like one of almost like our superpowers as a species.

[01:09:16]But they trying to >> I like I like what you just said >> how if you don't learn language in the formative years not a language >> but language in the sense of a means of communication and the concept of it the concept that you can use words to communicate with someone else >> but if you don't learn that thing in the formative years of your life >> you can just become useless and you can never learn it again after that.

[01:09:47]>> The example they gave was uh the Soviet Republic or some [ __ ] after they they um split up. There were some over Romanian orphans or some [ __ ] like that. Now they were stranded in a different country and the the heads of the orphanage didn't want them to become emotionally attached to them. So they all agreed that they just wouldn't talk to these kids. Like talking to them was prohibited.

[01:10:20]So the kids grew up and they didn't know that you can talk to someone, bro.

[01:10:25]>> So they didn't know any language. They didn't even know language as a concept, bro.

[01:10:29]>> And so they had insane cognitive issues, bro. And they could not be socialized because >> I believe it.

[01:10:36]>> They had no language.

[01:10:37]>> I believe it.

[01:10:38]>> Yeah. uh part of you guys know like okay you guys don't know but like uh there was like a whole two years where I worked in like the child development industry albeit remotely but you know that was my work and language is so important for development and communication is so important for humans because innately we are created as such a social species. Yeah.

[01:11:06]>> M cuz you know people say you can I'm an introvert what fair but if they put you in solitary confinement as an introvert you will not be cow >> you get um we are such a social species.

[01:11:19]>> Okay. The whole thing of being like an introvert is the fact that you know that you can actually get out of it.

[01:11:24]>> Yeah. It's it's like your choice to be an introvert. It's not >> exactly >> it's in your choice and it's in your character to be an introvert. If they put you in solitary confinement and don't talk to someone for a year, you can actually you can lose your mind.

[01:11:39]>> So even you as an introvert watching a Tik Tok and you hear guys communicating >> adds so much what's the word? Not not value but how do I describe it? For example, I'll give you the easiest way people say you can learn a language is by starting to consume media in that language. That is still someone within that media communicating to you or to another person in that media. That's how important communication is.

[01:12:11]Communication is such an important step step of learning that I believe for you to develop as a human communication is so important >> wouldn't be the same. It would not >> have language I don't think would be the same. So I don't think we'd be better off.

[01:12:29]>> Neither do I. Neither do I.

[01:12:31]>> Guys, I have this also one thing I want to add to that. Yeah. I feel like communication, you know, there are people who are sensitive and there are people who are insensitive. I feel like that is also like a thing you learn >> to know to know how to put words right to actually not offend or to like >> mind other people's feelings. Yeah.

[01:12:51]Yeah.

[01:12:51]>> Granted, there are also deficiencies in that >> part of uh language learn.

[01:12:55]>> Yeah.

[01:12:56]>> Granted and people's development might be different in that sector.

[01:13:01]>> For example, if someone has very severe autistic tendencies.

[01:13:07]>> It might take them longer to understand what's offensive and what isn't because to them this is normal communication >> and efficient. And that is something that's learned even for people who are >> careful who are reckless.

[01:13:22]>> Definitely learned especially now like for us who do a pod.

[01:13:25]>> Hey hey hey remember first few pods it has to be learned.

[01:13:31]>> Is that like similar to people who are media trained? Of course.

[01:13:34]>> Yes.

[01:13:35]>> Of course.

[01:13:36]>> Yes. Of course.

[01:13:36]>> And also it's very similar to the way we're talking here.

[01:13:40]>> And then if the bandal mana boys came >> the accent switches your environment also matters. You get if you go to the UK not going to talk like how you're talking here.

[01:13:52]You probably won't.

[01:13:53]>> As if code switch.

[01:13:54]>> Yeah. You have to code switch. If we are here verse Melvin in a courtroom that's code switching >> in a way. So yeah.

[01:14:02]>> No for sure. For sure. For sure. For sure. For sure.

[01:14:05]>> I remember that. Can you read more of this, please?

[01:14:08]>> I remember that part >> I was moving somewhere and then this guy was speaking. There was no bro, bro.

[01:14:15]This guy was serious.

[01:14:17]>> Yeah. You know, bro.

[01:14:19]>> Yeah. Yeah. You can't.

[01:14:21]>> Okay. Next. I swear you guys are right about needing to be a good liar to be a podcaster >> because some of these deep questions that are genuinely just pointless would have had me turning off subs. Just skip five minutes when I questions for each of you.

[01:14:38]>> Now we love the each of you questions man. We love them. We love them.

[01:14:43]>> I think it will be interesting to explore the sunk costs in relationships that keep chained i.e. that keep chained or keep >> i.e. because you invested x amount of years into being with this person, you fear to leave even when you know [ __ ] is tight.

[01:14:58]>> Yeah.

[01:14:58]>> Because of the some costs. I know as a woman I suffer from this type of thinking. Do men do too. Definitely.

[01:15:04]>> Yeah. We definitely do.

[01:15:06]>> Definitely do.

[01:15:07]>> I feel like >> granted for us it might be more than a lot of guys it's more monetary than >> said a lot.

[01:15:13]>> Yeah, it is monetary but also it's emotional.

[01:15:15]>> It's also emotional. It's also emotional. For a lot of guys, it's more monetary, but don't check the emotional side of it.

[01:15:20]>> Like that the [ __ ] that this shorty knows about you that no one else knows about you.

[01:15:24]>> Something you can actually salvage from the relationship >> to actually make it happen again.

[01:15:30]>> You'd rather do that instead of getting a whole new other person.

[01:15:33]>> Yeah, I agree.

[01:15:34]>> We do.

[01:15:35]>> Oh, I don't agree, but like I get some questions. Yeah.

[01:15:39]>> I'm also curious to learn if and why you guys want to get married. I don't know.

[01:15:43]For me, I feel marriage as an institute has failed with the strangers of society. It doesn't seem like a thing I need as a woman anymore because I can be without a partner and still flourish i.e. jobs, bank accounts, etc. So, what is the goal of marriage now? And e these traditional beliefs of women's roles in a home just keep making it more like adopted slavery for women than anything.

[01:16:09]I saw a clip from Bump Love and was like, "Wow, is this ATS again?" Anyway, I do wonder if marriage will be there with Gen A.

[01:16:21]>> Yeah. Okay, that's the last Sab. Yeah, that's the last of the same thingy.

[01:16:25]>> Yeah, >> you guys tell me, man. Cuz I know you you have questions about it. Me, I know I want to get married. I think I I think I also definitely want to get married, but I think it's a thing of um I want to I want to get married because it seems like uh it seems like the way that companionship has been organized by society.

[01:16:45]So it's kind of like the picture that I know of lifelong companionship. It is in the vehicle of marriage >> that you kind of achieve that.

[01:16:56]>> So that is why I'm open to being married. But I also I'm an open-minded person. So I know that it's not the only way. You guys can decide to be together forever and just not get married. You know what I mean?

[01:17:08]>> So did you see I don't know >> Steven that guy diary of a CEO. What's his name?

[01:17:12]>> Steven Bartlett.

[01:17:13]>> Bartlett. Yes. Did you see his video?

[01:17:15]>> He proposed to his girlfriend recently.

[01:17:17]>> Odd.

[01:17:18]>> Literally like two days ago. And he put out a video saying uh the reason I saw is getting married is a few years ago he didn't believe in it. But the longer he spent with her, the more he realized that uh with partnerships that don't involve marriage, it's much simpler to quit. Whereas marriage makes the scenario given the video is he said, imagine this door, it's easy to open and close. Marriage locks it. For you to unlock it, you need the key >> which is divorce. So it's simpler to sort through issues >> when you're married. That was his point of view. M >> simpler to sort well not simpler to sort through issues but you have more incentive to >> because you've committed to like this lifelong >> thing and then if you reach a point and you can't anymore that's when you unlock the door.

[01:18:09]>> Yeah.

[01:18:09]>> Do you agree that was his point of view?

[01:18:11]>> I do. I get it. It's like there's there's this saying that guys have that like it's almost like true freedom comes with with restriction >> as in you restrict yourself in some way so that you can have greater freedom in others. So I think that sometimes that's what marriage is like you restrict yourself in that in that way whether it's family or relationship or romance or whatever. So now you can have the freedom to pursue other things >> or feel freer because you know that there's someone who's holding you back in this one place or holding you down in this one place. I think marriage can be very grounding.

[01:18:50]>> And I know many men who have become better off because they got married.

[01:18:54]>> Okay.

[01:18:55]>> You know what I mean?

[01:18:56]>> Actually I think all men become better.

[01:18:58]>> I think so too. I think so too. As long as you pick cuz me now my dad and all the men in my life tell me that like >> the choice of your spouse is the most important decision you'll ever have to make in your life. I hear that as well.

[01:19:09]>> The most important >> I hear that as spouse, not girlfriend.

[01:19:12]>> Yeah.

[01:19:13]>> Spouse.

[01:19:13]>> And funny enough, and that's why I wish Kaspar was here. I don't think they tell women that, bro.

[01:19:18]>> Yeah.

[01:19:19]>> I don't think they tell women that the choice of your spouse will be the most important decision you ever have to make.

[01:19:25]>> Do they have that choice though?

[01:19:27]>> That's a question.

[01:19:28]>> Maybe that's why. Question. Maybe that's why.

[01:19:31]>> It's a man who supposed to be fair. But isn't that interesting?

[01:19:36]Cuz it can seem sometimes like as a young man dating that the women are the choosers because they're the ones with all the options and all that.

[01:19:44]>> Yeah.

[01:19:44]>> But then in like society's eyes, the men are the choosers cuz they're the ones who decide to marry.

[01:19:49]>> Yeah. There's that kind of statement guys always say women are the gatekeepers of is it sex? And then men are the gatekeepers of like marriage.

[01:19:56]That statement always goes around.

[01:19:58]>> So I always hear it. I always hear it.

[01:20:00]>> Interesting.

[01:20:00]>> Well, for me, I want to get married. I want to marry.

[01:20:03]>> Okay. Yeah.

[01:20:05]>> And um the way I look at it, it's like there there are some childhood memories that I have and I feel like I would like to repeat them and I can repeat them through my kids. And also the fact that I've had grandparents who have lived long to see them when they love each other as like old people. I'm like this is something hard. Someone can't do it alone. You understand? It's like they complement each other and if this person wasn't there, I don't think they will be happy the way they are. So that's how I look at it. For me, I look at it from a very very future look like a future point of view like it's going to be a very nice thing if it's like that.

[01:20:46]>> You don't need to maybe like find someone who like you guys are so like close, you understand each other. You you actually going to fight. But actually loving each other to the point that you can actually come around after a fight and understand each other and always be caring for each other.

[01:21:02]>> Yeah.

[01:21:02]>> So >> companionship.

[01:21:04]>> Exactly. Comparably everyone knows I want to get married.

[01:21:08]And for me I believe family is the smallest unit of society and if done right it makes society better as a whole, bro.

[01:21:20]>> Yeah. And also what are you going to do?

[01:21:23]You like as humans time we're going to reach a point in life where we've done everything or we are so old to do anything else. What are you going to do past that age?

[01:21:33]>> What's the alternative?

[01:21:34]>> What is there to do? Nothing. You're not like it's not that you're trying to make money. You've made money. Any money you didn't make, you'll never get it. What is there to do?

[01:21:44]Just be in love with a person.

[01:21:46]>> But I think it's marriage. Marriage and being in love are not >> they're not the same. They're not the same. But you can work towards it like towards the love not towards them being the same.

[01:21:57]>> Yeah, it's a bumpy ride but still it's something >> you like you pick to love someone every day. I think it's the whole reason for love.

[01:22:07]>> I've already said on this part love is a choice bro.

[01:22:09]>> Yeah.

[01:22:10]>> It's not a feeling.

[01:22:12]>> There was some guy who has asked like do you love your wife? I was like yes I love them. It's not that I want them every day. Sometimes I can hate them.

[01:22:21]Then I come back like I love >> the fact that you love them, you can hate them and still come back.

[01:22:27]>> Yeah.

[01:22:27]>> And I feel like the answer you that whoever as this up the answer you're looking for is not one you will get from the guys.

[01:22:33]>> You might need to ask this to like >> even the babes I'm not sure you'll get it.

[01:22:38]>> Yeah. This is not an answer question I feel like but those are those are our reasons for wanting to get married.

[01:22:44]>> I do want to get married. First of all I I I think I want children. I want a family and it works best when there's marriage involved. That's my personal point of view.

[01:22:54]>> Yeah.

[01:22:55]>> So, partnership, stroke, cohabiting is not my favorite, >> what's the word? Favorite what?

[01:23:03]>> Set up, I guess.

[01:23:05]>> Yeah.

[01:23:05]>> Um, and added to that, it's much simpler to quit when there's a partnership. I was I was very much in agreement with uh Steve Butler's video whereas with things like uh marriage you know there's it's not even busima about divorce I'm going to lose property no it's it's it's also if you care for a person enough you don't want to lose them so there will be changes growing together I want to get married and I believe a a marriage setting done right is the best place to raise better people and to be a better person myself. That's my choice. So, with the things like uh it seems like slavery and stuff, I think that's a case by case basis.

[01:23:50]Granted, that's what a lot of like women go through.

[01:23:54]>> Yeah. But I don't plan to do that. So, I won't be in that statistic of the majority. Not me. So, yeah.

[01:24:03]>> Might be, bro, but wait and see.

[01:24:05]>> Not me.

[01:24:06]>> Wait and see. Um, listen guys, thank you so much for watching the pod. That is where we are drawing the line today. Um, this is a blast as always. We might we might not record episodes at the end of the month. Um, I have plans on the weekend of the 23rd, a weekend of the 30th. Um, but let's not look too far into the future, bro. Let's see. Let's see what happens next week first. Uh, yeah, man. This was fun as always. Um, if you're still watching, remember to check on your boys, text your babe, hug your dad, kiss your mom. Until next week, man. Africa must unite. Peace.