The 2016 Brexit referendum represented a significant political shift where ordinary citizens challenged established political elites, expressing dissatisfaction with Western political establishments on issues of immigration, national sovereignty, and globalization. Ten years later, Britain faces political fragmentation with five major parties competing, and the rise of populist movements like Nigel Farage's Reform Party, which has gained significant support in former Brexiteer constituencies. The UK's electoral system creates a disconnect where major parties hold 80% of parliamentary seats but command support from only about one-third of the public, while immigration remains a persistent political talking point that continues to divide the country along the same lines as the original Brexit vote.
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And if you haven't, please subscribe here and jump over to our vlog channel and subscribe and just run them videos up. [snorts] Okay, so today we're talking about back it's called Back to the Future of Brexit. So I'm guessing that Brexit is back in the spotlight because I think um sorry I'm just going to do a little thing here. Okay, so Brexit was Brit Britain exiting the EU, which I remember still happened I think like 10 years ago. Yeah, about 10 years ago now.
>> I don't know how long ago >> it was 2016. I remember because it was when Trump first got into office.
>> Ah, that makes sense.
>> So now I guess there's financial wos in Britain and they're floating the idea around of going trying to get back into the EU.
>> So >> I think that's why though financial >> that's what they're saying. Obviously, if you have more insight, which if you're British, you probably do >> when it comes to money.
>> As a as a British person, though, like if you're watching this, let us know if you guys want to be back in the EU or if you ever wanted this Brexit to happen in the first place. But let's see. Let's get some insight.
>> 10 years is not a long time to come crawling back.
>> Come crawling back. Yeah, >> I'm just kidding. I don't know the >> um >> complexities of it.
>> I don't know the complexities, the politics behind it, any of that, >> but let's see.
is like not that long.
>> It's independence day. The ordinary decent people of this country have overturned the establishment, the big banks and the big businesses.
>> A decade ago, Brexit, the vote by the British to leave the European Union was the shot heard around the world.
>> Yes, I'm very sad. I'm very sad for for our country um for [snorts] it's for Europe. The result was an expression of deep popular dissatisfaction with the selfserving, self-satisfied western elites.
>> And UK is going to be in the back of the queue.
>> Those who dictated the boundaries of acceptable opinion >> on immigration, national sovereignty, the globalized economy, and the modern gospel.
>> And these politicians, they're all just so good at instilling fear and like making you question the wrong things. in my opinion. But I don't know. I I do know immigration is a huge talking point in in Europe or and it always has been.
But I think it's a bit it's a lot different than the immigration here in the United States. So I don't I I don't know too many details of the immigration there in the UK.
>> Yeah. Um especially the difference now versus when before 2016. Like I don't know how it's evolved or changed since then. I think that I think the UK um London specifically has we just get immigrants from different regions a lot like so we have more of like Latin people.
>> Oh yeah.
>> And then they have more I know uh Middle Eastern people go to London and and Europe.
>> Yeah. I'm I'm just wondering is was that a huge talking point as to why they >> I don't know. I just showed that picture. I know that that's a big talking point now for the Reform Party.
The Reform Party, I think, is like the right-wing uh party in the UK.
>> That's a big talking point to push what though. I'm confused. Like I understand immigration is a problem everywhere.
>> I'm sure it was in 2016. They were saying as like the British people, they were saying like we don't want to align with the European uh laws allowing this type of immigration. And I'm sure they used that as a thing like saying, "Oh, we need tighter immigration and we want to have our own immigration laws."
>> Let's just let's just give more information. cultural progressivism.
>> It only takes 5 seconds to stop others [music] with your future.
>> A few months later, the vote echoed with thunderous effect across the Atlantic when Donald Trump rode similar discontent to the White House.
>> The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer.
In 2026, the political instability, economic malaise, and social disorder that are the hallmarks of modern Britain, may have led many to conclude that the target of that shot might have been their own foot.
>> We've got our country back.
>> And yet, recent local election results across the country, a kind of national midterm, indicate that the revolutionary spirit is, if anything, intensifying and spreading.
>> Please welcome MR. NIGEL FARAGE. the ascendant forces, a populist nationalism, and an increasingly radical progressivism that has risen to challenge it. And like Brexit, the mood in Britain could press it.
>> That guy Boris, he always looked like so disheveled every time I saw him.
>> He always looked like out of it.
[laughter] Sorry, I don't I don't really know much about him.
>> Similar developments in politics here. I don't think faith, belief and trust in our leaders and our politicians has ever been at a lower level in our country. So the responsibility is on our shoulders.
>> The results confirmed that Kiaama, the Labour prime minister elected less than 2 years ago in a landslide, >> country first, party second, >> is about as popular as a hivirus patient on a cruise. If we don't improve and we don't start doing better, we're going [clears throat] to see Nigel Farage walking up Downing Street in two or three years time.
>> The results portray an almost unprecedented political fragmentation with five parties now competing with different strengths in different regions across England and the two nationalist parties in Scotland and Wales.
>> And it's not just in Wales, though that would seem to be the biggest blow of all. Scotland is now a place where you have no chance of winning. You're losing big time in your North of England seats.
You're basically now a regional minority party, a metropolitan party of the public sector, middle class, and of some ethnic minorities. Why would you stick with a leader that has reduced you to rump status?
>> I think we've made some big mistakes.
Uh, you know, when >> what's the biggest power? We I think we were so keen to level with the British people about the the mess that we inherited and what was needed to do to repair it that we we were all repair and no renewal.
>> Britain now finds itself facing the curious and unhealthy reality that thanks to the vagaries of its electoral system, Labour and the Conservative Party combined have 80% of seats in parliament but command the support of little more than a third of the British public. This hurts not just because Labor has done badly, but because if we don't get this right, our country will go down a very dark path.
>> Okay, so you guys >> fearongering is is like everywhere.
>> So he's the he's the Labor Party, >> which to me sounds like the Democratic party, and the other one was the Conservative party, I guess. But then I think the Reform Party is like the farright one that's like very like immigrants out and blah blah blah. the ones that are having the protest in the street. Yeah.
>> Okay. [clears throat] >> Correct me if I'm wrong. Please like clarify.
>> Party for that.
>> Yeah. But I guess so the Democrat the Labor and the Conservative Party, I guess, are the top. That's what he was saying. It's like the Democrat and Republicans, >> I guess.
>> That's what Yeah. Clarify if I'm wrong.
>> Um, don't they have more options? I feel like they have more options that are taken more seriously than here. They have like two serious options here.
>> Yeah. I don't know.
Brexit is yet again the deciding factor.
If you look at how each of people in these local authorities voted in the Brexit referendum, that gives you a pretty indicate good indication of how much they voted for Niger Faraj's reform. So in the Brexity places like Sunderland etc. you will see a very strong reform presence. But when I last checked the data, not a single remain constituency had given more than 10% of the council seats to reform. So we can still see a country divided along this Brexit axis 10 years after the Brexit vote itself.
>> Laid bare again is a sulfurous popular discontent not only with traditional political parties but with an entire system that many voters feel is failing them.
>> We are the last chance the country's got >> like reform UK. What is that?
>> That's the far right movement. Yeah. But we spent like like 5 minutes real quick trying to see the details of these things. There's so many like positions in the UK government here like that they sit at. So it's saying Nigel Farage is not currently running to be prime minister, but he's talked about running to be uh running for prime minister in 2029 general election.
>> Okay.
>> And he currently is the head of the reform party and he also has a seat at the parliament. That's what it was saying. which the reform is like this far right >> the far right party to take back yeah pretty much like make UK great again type [ __ ] >> oh please >> right correct me if I'm wrong but >> and you have a seat I can't that's wild >> yeah the government the government >> we to talk to look at our administration >> I know the government in the UK seems very um >> complex yeah there's a lot of layers to it kind of confusing so if you can clarify that in the comments please >> to get this country back on track >> Mr. Faraj's voters and many others beyond them are angry with failed efforts to stop illegal immigration, the advance of multiculturalism and the elite deprecation of traditional values and an economy viewed as without opport.
>> We'll take the tiki masala. Leave [laughter] everything else at the door.
>> Like I said, I do think immigration in the UK and Europe is a lot different than in the US. So, I'm not too familiar with the details of how immigration is run over there. It could be way more corrupt than it is here. But I don't know.
>> What do you mean by that?
>> Like there [snorts] could be a lot of like I think our our immigration really like I don't know the statistics of like criminal offenses by immigrants in the U in Europe compared to like here like here it's a lot lower than people portray but I don't know how it is over there. Things like that you know.
>> Yeah.
>> So those stats that people like to throw around of like well we don't want criminals here blah blah blah. In reality in the US, a lot of the the the migrants or the immigrants, they're they're not committing a lot of crimes.
>> They pay more in taxes.
>> Yeah. So, I don't know the details of how it is over there is what I'm saying.
In Europe, it could be different. So, I don't know. The argument could be way different.
>> We also know that anyone who is an illegal immigrant and a criminal, those are the people that are highlighted more.
>> Yeah. Of course, >> to make it look like it's the majority.
>> Yes.
>> Here could apply elsewhere. We don't know. Yeah.
>> opportunity for the many in an age of rapid technological change.
>> And that is why that is why let's make Britain great again. I've heard that from somewhere else [laughter] before.
>> The new leader of THE GREEN PARTY, ZACK PALANSKI.
>> In contrast, the surging Greens have made opposition to Israel a core part of their platform. Their leader, Zach Palansky, who is Jewish but describes himself as passionately anti-Zionist, has called the wars in Gaza and Lebanon genocide.
>> We also would want like to explore twinning with a Palestinian town. A Labor council, I believe Brent have already done that. [music] >> The US is a singular political culture and not all these [clears throat] trends are likely to be replicated here. There is unlikely to be a third party, still less a fourth or fifth party. But the wider political trends are global and transatlantic.
>> Mr. Trump may not be popular in Britain, but Trumpism and its rejection of old liberal democratic orthodoxes are rapidly gaining ground on the right. In contrast, after his thrashing in the UK local elections, Prime Minister Starmer seems to be once again in real political trouble. [music] And if he is replaced, it's highly likely that his successor would be from the left of the Labour Party.
>> I want to remind you what Nigel Farage said about Brexit.
He said it would make us richer. Wrong.
It made us poorer.
>> All right. Leave in the comments below if this Kirst Star Dharma guy is is, you know, if he sucks. Let us know if he's good, whatever. And let us know what's up with that Green Party cuz they seem they seem a little better. But we don't know.
>> I'm just curious about [clears throat] um sorry, there's so many layers to this. So in my head I'm like, okay, where are we talking about whether or not to stay independent from the EU or not? Like where is our elections coming? Like why is that a talking point right now? Because who's on what side of what? Is is Kmer on the side of reuniting with EU?
>> Probably because saying no, we don't need them. I would think so because Nigel has always been proxit and it started with a video of him in 2016 saying we did it. We took back you know >> you know uh England we took it back >> free basically.
>> Yeah. From Europe.
>> There's a certain like class of people that want to be oppressed so bad that they will [snorts] take anything as a sign of um >> oppression >> like like perseverance. Oh yeah.
>> When you didn't really do much.
[clears throat] So it seems like he just cuz he seems like Farage is very, you know, nationalist like he's very like he's like we English people need to be on our own. We need to do this and that. Kirst probably was not very adamant about doing the Brexit. I'm just speculating prime minister either when that happened.
>> But I'm sure these people held office.
>> Yeah.
>> Um so I don't know. uh >> to me it seems like more of the progressive and left would not would have liked to stay within Europe and I think it was more of the right >> that wanted to separate from Europe and be like we're our own thing. We need to do our own thing and be our own people.
That's what it seems like to me.
>> I'm just not seeing a lot of the pros and cons to the Brexit versus before.
Like I'm not seeing anyone speak about that other than >> um he Kier was just talking about financially it's they've taken a hit.
That's all. I haven't really heard uh the other guy, Nigel, whatever his name is. Um he looks like the guy from the fire festival documentary who said he was going to do things. [snorts] Um >> oh my god, he does.
>> He looks like Mr. Burns too from the Simpsons.
>> Anyway, >> all right.
>> Sorry. Um what were we saying? So I'm this brain dead.
>> You just said you just >> sampler platterusion.
You don't really see so much of them talking about the pros and cons of Brexit before and after >> other than him saying financial and then the other guy saying like we're going to make we're going to be great again. We're going to go back in time. I I don't know what that looks like for you guys.
>> To me, it seems like both these parties are just >> a mess.
>> Yeah, >> kind of like us.
Uh I'm just curious if you are in the UK or Yeah. I I'm just curious if you if this is like something you guys vote on reunifying or not. I don't know.
>> I don't know if that's a decision that the politicians make amongst each other or if it's something you guys vote for or against. I I don't know. So, I'm just curious how that why that's like a talking point right right now.
>> I don't know.
>> Um [clears throat] sorry for all the word salad. Genuinely just as confused as I was 10 minutes ago. I know this is kind of this is complicated but yeah hopefully you guys can cl clarify in the comments. All right, let's finish this video.
>> Okay.
>> He said it would reduce migration.
>> Wrong.
>> So it was also >> migration went through the roof.
>> He said it would make us feel secure.
Wrong again.
>> Well, we don't know. We don't live there.
>> No, I know. But from but what I'm saying is Brexit happened 10 years ago and and 10 years later immigration is like one of the top [ __ ] topics still.
>> Yeah. That from our perspective. We don't live there, so we don't know. But I will say this, if that is true, that's what we get gas lit thinking every day. Like things will happen in front of our face and they're like, >> "Look how great it X, Y, and Z is." And it is the complete opposite of what we're visually seeing happen.
>> Yeah. We also we'll have promises to told to us and then, >> you know, 5 10 years down the line, it's the same [ __ ] >> as before. It made us weaker.
>> In Britain, as in the US, the response is centrifugal. The left isn't reaching for the diminishing middle ground, but seeking expanded territory on the more radical extreme. The old politics is dead. The new age of populism is just beginning.
>> The last government was defined by breaking our relationship with Europe.
This Labor government will be defined by rebuilding our relationship with Europe.
By putting Britain at the heart of Europe. I mean, it's it sounds like the same as here. They you get one party that wins >> promises >> takes back like moves backwards on a bunch of [ __ ] and then you have the other party being like, "We're going to move it right back to where we were before." Like, it's just like never ending going back and forth. It's the same as here.
>> Anyway, >> yeah, I don't know. Obviously, you guys are probably going to have a lot to say about this if you're from England or, you know, the UK. Um, just leave it in the comments below. Be nice, okay? We don't know so much about this situation, so clarify for us. Prepare to get flamed cuz >> we're just dumb Americans who don't know anything.
>> All right, thank you all for watching.
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