The black leg vaccination (administered to newborn calves at around 45 days of age) is a routine practice in the cattle industry, despite ranchers claiming their meat is antibiotic-free and hormone-free; this practice raises questions about food labeling transparency and consumer awareness, as the vaccine is often combined with other shots in multi-vaccine formulations.
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Added:for another exciting adventure into Health Frontiers. And I don't know what other programs there might be a lot of other programs like this, but I really enjoy the spontaneity and the and the um the the the immediacy of what we're dealing with because we are ongoing health researchers, the three of us. And I'm sure everyone that listens to this uh broadcast is probably a researcher to some degree.
on their own.
There is so much confusion, so much um uh dishonesty in the food business.
We're desperately trying to unravel the the uh the gnarling uh tangles of of truth in terms of food. One of the things that Daniela and I discovered this week kind of just randomly was we we are we're looking for a a a rancher to uh to to to uh be like our main supplier of of meat. We like to have a a fully stocked freezer. That's how we survive. We're eight miles from the highway and we don't we're trying more and more to to stay put. We're we can't really get anything done if we're traveling around all the time and going to town is a very consuming, you know, part of our day. But okay, but that that's not the point. The point is like this that what we discovered by accidentally by just asking around was that it's it's routine practice.
The meat out here is a hundred times better than probably than than the meat in the in the in the uh in the big supermarkets. There's no question about it.
They claim to be antibiotic free that there no hormones, no shots and all this stuff. What we found out kind of by accident and and this is I think this is how as as a people we are coming together and and investigating these things deeply.
But what we found out was that it's considered routine practice, at least in Arizona and probably many other places, to to uh vaccinate newborn calves with what's called a black leg shot. Apparently, this is a black leg, I guess, is a fatal disease that that attacks calves. And they say, "Well, this is if calves are standing in manure." It's like, "Well, why are calves standing in manure?" I mean, it it just it just makes no sense.
But they're saying it is it is a lethal disease, and the calves fetch a very high price to these these ranchers pay a lot for their calves. But the point is that they can take a calf that's been that's been vaccinated for black leg disease.
They can buy that calf and then say that their c their cows are antibiotic free that they've never been vaccinated. They don't get >> that's >> they don't get shot up.
>> Allowed to say that then because that that's they still vaccinate them.
>> But but they but this is like and I don't I'm not accusing the ranchers of being dishonest because it in a way they are being honest. the the cows as long as they are under their opaces, under their care, a cow that was born to their own flock. I I don't but you know that's not what I'm hearing. I'm hearing from some ranchers that this is a kind of routine thing and it's such a dangerous disease and they do not want to lose lose a cow because it it costs them a lot of money.
So I I just, you know, we found this out by accident.
>> That's unprofessional.
>> Well, it's it's it's dishonest, but it's it's there. And I, like I said, I don't think it's the ranchers per se that are being dishonest. But this is where >> Why hell can they call them organic and then shoot them up?
>> It's that that's the same thing as saying as in the grocery store. No, because after they buy them, after they the the calves are raised by and raised by somebody else and after they buy them, they don't shoot them up so their cows are not shut up. It's it's and again I don't I don't think the the ranchers are are going out of the way to be dishonest but I think this is the kind of research that that people need to be doing and we need to be sharing in order to re to find out what's really going down. So, we called like Featherblade because Feather Blade is is a higher, you know, we feel like they they have all, you know, they're in Nevada, first of all, >> and um, you know, the meat that we get is is wonderful meat. I I don't have a problem with it, but the So, Feather Blades, you know, and they they want to be completely honest, they said, "We don't know what the ranchers do." and they gave me the names of the three ranchers ranches where they buy their their cows their meat. So I haven't completed the research and we haven't called the actual uh the the ranchers themselves but I think this is the kind of of research and the kind of information that should be shared amongst amongst the community.
So, let me say a couple things about what you said. Um, because I I used to live on a ranch and we raised natural beef. Uh, although it was some time ago.
And then this morning I was talking to a friend of mine who's a retired rancher and I used to always buy his black Angus beef when I was in on the East Coast and in the business. Um, black leg shots been administered for over 40 years.
This is nothing new.
Um the disease is not new because the bacteria claustrdium I can't pronounce the second name the second word of it is not new because because it lives in the soil.
So, um, and and and and and the other thing I wanted to sort of correct you about is that if you're talking about meat that eventually winds up being packaged or winds up in a supermarket or, let's say, winds up in Arowan in California or the best whole foods in the country, >> okay? And it says 100% organic, 100% pasture-raised, p uh grain a grass-fed, grass-finished regenerative farming, farming or whatever the label says.
Um, and putting aside whether there's dishonesty, you're you you're talking about labeling laws in this country. And that's a very very slippery slope because there's a lot of things you can say without saying it. There's a lot of things you can't say. I mean you don't say regardless of what you do say. So So for example, what I'm saying is is that the black leg shot is not really an antibiotic.
When they say they don't feed cattle antibiotics, what they're saying is they don't treat sick cows with antibiotics.
They remove them from the processing line or they you know maybe maybe they use certain portions of the of the of the cow and the meat. Um when they say it's hormone free, this this black leg shot's not a hormone.
This black leg shot is given to young calves at a certain age because after a certain age it's very unlikely they're going to get it and get the disease.
So um the ranch Iris farm ranch in Arizona that goes to the Prescuit family prescuit farmers market I spoke with them. She said, "We we administer the black leg shot at 45 days." 45 days is a is pretty young. I mean, when you think about it.
>> Um, and maybe some do it later. My friend in in um that I spoke to today that uh was the rancher at Rosetta Beef Farm said to me that um as far as he knows black leg shots administered pretty widely.
Now, if you go to ChatGBT or you go to Google or you go to, you know, something like the national national beef wire, which is a big online, you know, uh what was what's the word I'm looking for? Just a collection of information about beef raising in the country. And you ask it, is it routine or do all ranchers and farms in the US um inoculate or or or administer black leg shots to their to their cows, to their calves? The answer is no.
But then they go on to tell you how bad the disease is. I mean, let's say you're a farmer or a rancher and you have a hundred hundred steer, you know, you have you have a hundred in your whatever in your in your uh on your farm and you wake up in the morning and two of them have dropped dead in the pasture. They just they just drop dead because they don't you don't get any notice. The the disease the disease progresses once the the the animal has it. It progresses very quickly. there's a few signs, a few symptoms, and then and then it's dead.
So, yeah, I mean, it is an economic thing for them, I guess. Um, but there's also a whole slew of practices that and and and and sanitation on the farm and practices uh in the pasture and and the removal of feces and, you know, all all of these other things.
that contribute to this this spore, this bacteria um being present even though it's present probably somewhat natively.
The thing is, hold on one second.
The thing of it is is does the disease result from the accumulation of a certain amount of bacteria? Like the three of us have bacteria, billions and billions and billions of bacteria in our bodies right now. Um, uh, you were talking to Dr. Mel the other day about histamine.
Think got to think of I'm gonna change the subject for a minute, but think about histamine like this. You have a bucket. You have a bucket and there's a certain amount of histamine that the bucket will hold.
And if it's if it's not overflowing, you don't have skin conditions, you don't have wheezing, you don't have problems with your eyes, you know, you don't have all the things that people typically say hist, you know, you don't have allergies.
But when that bucket overflows, you have all of the above.
Okay. So, so then you're looking at, well, what causes histamine? What? The body produces histamine naturally. It's supposed to produce histamine, but but what causes it to produce it too much?
So the answer So it's the same question with the bacteria in the soil on the farm, you know, whatever. Um, and and and how much is too much?
So, you know, if you go to say any of these websites that I'm talking about like National Beef Wire and you go to the FAQs, you'll see all these explanations about why this clustrdium bacteria would would result in death. Now, having said all that, are we looking at the same BS that they they they fed us about the the other vaccine? you know, the one that that uh came out after 2020. Are are we talking about other vaccines that you know, they give children? You know, in other words, are we looking at the same information and the same fear-mongering that's coming from from um you know, uh the the animal welfare version of the FDA or or the CDC?
Maybe. I'm not a rancher today, but what I'm what I'm what I'm kind of getting at is that if you're if you succumb to that, if you're if you're if you're not diligent about your farm and the farm conditions, and if you succumb to the fear and then you're given the shot, then you're probably not having any problems with the with the animals, but maybe you wouldn't have had any problems anyhow. It's like, who knows? You know, you know what I'm saying? Like, who who knows? Um, wait a minute. Hold on for one second.
>> Hey, can you give me two minute five minutes and I'll call you right back?
>> Yeah. Did you call me?
>> Yeah. I was wondering if you called the guy. Um, >> you know, the guy that you needed to send the pictures to.
>> Yeah, >> but I'll call you back.
Um, so So do you see you see what I'm suggesting is the dilemma >> right but but >> and as a consumer as a consumer in my opinion >> in my opinion the best thing you can do is to buy directly from a farmer who you can ask the questions to. I mean when I used to decide who I was going to buy from I didn't just ask questions. I went to the farm.
I walked the farm. I walked the the the barns, you know, I looked at the water. I looked at the troughs. Um, I mean, they didn't need to give me records. Um, and I didn't I knew that, so I didn't ask for them. But what I'm saying is is that you know you started out by talking about I think you started out or and we've talked about this before on the show is about doing your own due diligence because you know at the end of the day if we can't trust the meat or find trustworthy meat and the oceans are suspect and we don't eat a lot of vegetables or we're concerned about the organic certification which in my opinion opinion is very suspicious >> and what do we do? So the answer is you grow your own food, you have your own animals.
Um but not everybody can do that and or even on the scale that it would take to feed two people, a family of five, a community or whatever, you know. So it's it's a real it's a real dilemma. But but what I'm saying is is that uh you've got you've got to you've got to probably go one step beyond just if if it's a really really big issue, big concern, probably go one step beyond just making a phone call. Now Creekstone, Creekstone, which is one of the suppliers to Feather Blade and Mer California, which is another supplier. I don't remember who the third one is, but they're all >> Aurora.
>> Yeah, argu arguably they're all part of this thing called the never ever program. You know, we never ever we never ever do this and we never ever do that and we never ever do this. But I know Creekstone. Uh Creekstone was a competitor of of mine and they're a big company. I mean, they're all over the country.
>> Wow.
>> It's not like they're just in Arizona.
They're on the East Coast. They're in They're in many, many, many, many quote unquote high-end restaurants.
>> I would be surprised if they didn't administer that shop. I would really I would be pleasant. I would be pleasantly >> You're saying if they did, you would be surprised if they did that that this is just it's just sort of normal practice.
Well, I am what I'm saying is that because of the size of their operations and the and the sales volume that they do and the breadth of of See, see, here's the problem. It's not like um it's not like there's going to be an outbreak amongst 50 restaurants in New York who bought Creek Creek meat because this happens before it even gets there.
the animals drop dead in the pasture, right? So, this is not about >> baby and they're babies really.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, this doesn't happen to full-grown cows, right?
>> No.
>> Right.
>> No. So, you know, so anyhow, so but the other question worthwhile considering is, you know, what's the effect on humans?
Um, and I can't find anybody talking about that.
You know I can't find any I mean you can find today thank thank God you can find lots and lots and lots and lots of very very intelligent science scientists doctors researchers politicians if you want talking about the effects of the vaccine from 2020 it's all documented there's no there's no mystery anymore but What about this?
I don't, you know, I don't know that there's been any research.
And if there is, I'd love to see it because what what this thing is doing is it's diminishing or destroying a certain kind of bacteria.
That's that's that's deadly. I mean, I don't think we should be thinking that the bacteria is harmless.
I mean, they're dying of something, but but we don't have as, as far as I can tell, we don't have a big problem with, you know, you don't you're not hearing on the news that uh are reading in some publication that uh cows are dropping all over the all over the country from Black Lake. Right.
>> Right.
So, you know, so to me, I come away with a couple questions.
Where where can I find, you know, uh a a ranch that doesn't administer it?
um and and meat that's safe and and and if we've been consuming it unknowingly, what's the effect?
>> Does that make sense?
>> Yeah. So, so you're saying it's not nothing. It It's not something that we should just say, "Oh, kind of like when when the vaccine came up, my friends were like, Ellie, it's just a you know, you know, don't you believe in God? just get the shot, you know, we we you got to live, you got to support your family, this kind of thing. I mean, the balance between that and I mean, maybe it is a hard, you know, maybe it is absolutely nothing. It's meaningless. The the other question is c can you >> the fact that it's administered at a young age?
Uh again the farmer in the rancher in uh Prescuit or near Prescat said Skull Valley I think said um 45 days and now that animal is going to live to whenever they you know take it to slaughter. You know maybe maybe I'm just throwing out an idea maybe what happens between then and then is that it it you know it it discharges it. It detoxes from it. I mean, cows are amazing creatures, >> but >> right >> I I I don't know, you know, and and can you test the can you test the flesh? Can you test the the meat for some something? But I don't know. I just I don't know. I know that I know something that's interesting. I was reading about this is that it seems to affect the thigh >> of the cow.
That's why it's called black leg.
>> Yeah.
>> And and in Judaism in in kosher slaughter, we have a a particular process that we go through with um you know with the uh u the thigh of the leg.
And uh I don't know. I I don't have a lot to say about that other than I just thought it was an interesting kind of connection, you know. Um, we don't eat it. Jew, I mean, Jewish people, if they're observant, they don't eat it.
Um, so, um, yeah, I mean, I I, you know, when I go to the farmers market next year, I'm going to ask them if they if they if they minister.
I know that there's a one or two other beef farms at the Prescat farmers market and she didn't the woman at IRS didn't know whether they did or didn't. Um and and clearly the people at Feather Blade didn't know, >> right?
>> They like just you know like as far as they knew we didn't they don't they buy the best quality and it's free of this and free of that. But, you know, >> but but they were they were very open about it and and I respect them.
>> Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh. Well, oh, they said to me, so you called them, too. I did, too.
They said to me, "If you find something out, will you let us know?"
>> Well, guess guess what? I would love to, but what if we found out that all three sources do >> that all all sources do >> that everybody does the shot?
>> No, I'm saying they're their three sources.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know. I I I know it's it's but but it's it's a question that we don't even think of asking. I mean that that's what's so so you know it's it's like the um >> the organic uh fruit that we used to get in New York City. It says we only use uh FDA approved pesticides and and they're labeled as organic.
>> I mean, you know, so it's it's just >> I don't know. Yeah. I mean, >> like nature's promise. I mean our conclusion be you know because of maybe our situation is that yeah we w we will have to raise our own animals eventually but it's you know it takes a it's a lot of work and and our own fruits and vegetables and our own uh nut trees.
>> It's unlikely it's let's say you had goats on on the farm. I mean, goats at your place or let's say you had chickens or goats and chickens or let's say you had one or two um milk cows, but um uh but let's say at the end of the day you want to um you know, you want to turn them into something that's edible, right? Meat, let's say. So, I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that you're not going to slaughter them yourselves up on top of the mountain. So now you got So now you have to transport them eight miles down the high to the highway and then find the appropriate hopefully really really I mean I know there's there they exist in Kingman, don't get me wrong, but I'm just saying it's a it's a process, you know.
>> Yeah.
>> Um so >> that was your butcher. So, so hopefully in the future as we as as as the consumers of of this product will have more information. I I I mean I'm just saying like I think it's a good thing that we are bringing this up. I And like you say, you don't know.
I don't really know. The ranchers are all saying it's just something we do, we have to do, or we want to do. We don't think it's a big >> Well, here's here's another thing. When you when you when you do a little research, as I did on the actual shot, not the disease, not the bacteria, but what they administer. Well, guess what?
All the companies, the big companies that provide farmers and ranchers with, you know, with vaccines and stuff like that, guess what they do? They combined them into like like you know how the childhood um maybe it's changed now with RFK, but the childhood vaccine schedules got like 72 shots in it. You know, when you were born it had maybe had four, >> you know, when I was born Yeah. So, so now what they're doing is they're doing stuff like eightway shots and it's got the it's got the uh the Black Lake shot in it, but it's got this other stuff too, >> you know? So, why wouldn't you? I mean, if you were that kind of farmer rancher, why wouldn't you? Um, it's all in one.
You know, you can make sure that you're not going to get this this this this this.
That's that's happening. That there's no question that's happening.
What what companies do you know what companies are uh manufacturing the shots?
>> Oh yeah.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Is it Fizer and uh Johnson and Johnson or or are they owned by Fizer?
>> Um I that's a great question. I don't I don't I don't know.
I mean, >> I would imagine it would.
>> I also heard that Sprouts is owned by Black Rockck.
>> Well, Black Rockck owns everything. I mean, there's nothing that's not owned by Black Rockck. Yeah, that's that's not such a huge statement, >> you know.
>> Uh Yeah.
Yeah. So, um, but I I I I don't I mean being that Sprouts is publicly traded as opposed to say like like Natural Grocerers out of Arizona, which is a privately held company by a family, you know, it maybe Black Rockck owns 46% and that's the big they're the biggest shareholder. You know, you know what I'm saying? Like what does it mean to own a company like you know is it Black Rockck 100% own Sprouts? Doubt it. I doubt it, you know, but it's Yeah, they may be. It may be. I I never heard that before, but it may be. Um um you know, we know Amazon is involved with Whole Foods.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Danielle is saying that we're being shadowbanned on this uh on this broadcast. We only have uh >> we had one person. had one person for a while. Now we're up to five.
>> I just got off the republic and probably and that we had some problems with them as well. But >> it's it's this is a war for uh >> what is can you explain to me like I just clicked on the chat and I don't see anything.
>> That means either that there's nobody watching or which I kind of doubt. I thought think we have a fairly steady uh but but they do watch later. I mean it it you know it doesn't have to be watched right now but >> so what what would be the other reason for that?
>> The other reason for for shadowbanning us >> no what is so explain to me what you mean by shadow banning. Shadow beaning me. Shadow bending means that the the uh the people in charge of the broadcasts or really the AI that that watches the the uh broadcast is restream. So, >> right. Well, it could be AI, but it right, but it could be Facebook. It could be YouTube. It could be X that that the that the AI that polices the thought streams uh are >> actively putting a damper on our broadcast so that people aren't usually people don't get notified or you know it it it becomes difficult to find the the broadcast this kind of thing. They make it difficult to uh for people to to communicate with us. So it's it's listen it's an ongoing thing. I've been dealing with with it for years. I that's why you know I mean honestly I don't think my information is is that much is millions and millions a factor of millions less than Joe Rogan. I I don't I just don't see that.
>> Joe Rogan buys his views. He buy he also buys bots but that you know that but anyway yeah it's so it's it's an information war and we've been doing this for years but yeah I mean I got removed from all all my uh YouTube channels I still have a YouTube channel but they refuse to monetize me. So there there are many different ways where they can fight our information, make it impossible for us to make a living, uh just make it impossible for but we just we have developed a lifestyle where we don't care. We just keep going and uh we're it's just built in. It's just hardwired.
>> I noticed on Facebook I noticed on Facebook when I see you on Facebook I don't see a lot of views viewers. I don't know if not a lot >> more late or they're more later or something like that. I don't know.
>> Could be. I mean, a lot a lot of these channels do people do watch it later.
Like on Rumble, I'll get, you know, just a few viewers, but then about a thousand people watch uh x a couple, you know, maybe 400, 500. But if I make a twominute video, I could get tens of thousands of views.
>> 350,000 viewers for the Charlie Ken, >> right? We got one. We got 350,000 views just on a two-minute video. But anyway, it's just, you know, it's just we just do this. And you know that that that's not that doesn't even factor in the fact that I have many copies. There are many people that are broadcasting my information that I have nothing to do with. I don't know who they are. I don't know. And they're so I I feel I don't I'm not upset about that. Be I mean people are saying, "Well, you should sue them." I'm like, well, the last thing I want is to get into a lawsuit about anything, but the um, you know, I just don't want to deal with the legal the the legal uh the legal schmegle framework or whatever, you know, the the the criminals that run the legal system.
But, um, I I don't care. I'm just like, look, I'm I'm just happy the information gets out there.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Like this information that we shared today. I mean, nobody knows this. I we didn't certainly didn't know. We went in we we trusted you know we have trusted uh suppliers of beef and they said you know like they had this never ever program or whatever it is and uh we just assume that they never get shot up but uh that's not true >> and and and and let's go back and just make sure that we we we acknowledge this that doesn't mean that their beef is not you know way better than >> Oh yeah. No, no question about it. Way better. Way better.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's not to say this is, you know, but but it it it does show that >> we are not privy to the real information about our health. I mean, Danielle and I watch this stuff on on Netflix and now they're they're advertising these uh pharmaceuticals and they go, "Well, it may lead to strokes and you may drop dead, you know, of uh liver failure."
And I mean, so there is some kind of a turn turnaround in terms of honesty, but we're not quite there yet. That's I guess that's the bottom line, >> though. We need to be vigilant. And and you're a prime example of somebody who who really does their homework.
>> Yeah. And then and then and then the other thing is is that why is this so much better in other countries? It's like it just it's, you know, why in Europe is is the food better or why in Argentina, you know, is the grass-fed beef really grass-fed beef or whatever, you know, why is the lamb in Australia? So, I mean, that's another thing that just boggles the mind, you know, >> but I think I think if you were born and raised here, you you've you've you've you have this idea that, you know, we're better than everybody in every way every way, shape, and form.
And unfortunately, that may not be the case.
And and and I think that it really echoes back to the I mean I just got a a thing with the republic is that the people in in America are bread and circus. You know, it's just like they're too busy. You know, I'm not blaming them. I'm not saying they're bad people, but but we need to be active about every aspect of our life and be doing, you know, it like I'm lucky enough to have a partner who's researching this all the time. I mean, she she doesn't let anyone get away with anything, you know. She's like, "Well, you know, she's soaking her potatoes in baking soda, organic potatoes, because >> because that they're the number one uh >> glyophosphates."
>> No, the number one starch uh that that's been sprayed with the gly glyphosate.
>> Gly glycos. Yeah. Anyway, we're we're just tell, you know, I think this is this program for those who actually get to see this program is that do your do your homework for just because the label says, you know, organic doesn't mean >> you know the other thing is the best case our our best case may very well be this. Okay, it just may be this that unless unless you had your hands in the dirt and unless you had your own animals and you had and you could see it from, you know, point A to Z, you know, from birth to death or whatever the, you know, whatever, you know what I'm saying? like the full cycle. Unless that was the case and you were buying whatever.
Um, you have to be involved in detoxification.
You have to be concerned about glutathione. You have to be concerned about your water. You have to be concerned about all the things that you know we've talked about here too for because because things are just not um uh optimal, >> right? So, >> um >> you know, I was looking at I was I was doing a little bit of my own like I was thinking about this and I asked I asked a question. And I said, "What is the what is the similarity between the carnivore diet, the western proud pro Western Price Foundation diet and and the um the diet that you know maybe arguably comes from uh from the from the Bible." And so here's what it is. You ready? And it's called the Biblio Diet.
The biblio diet is not about restriction considering there are many God- created whole foods that nourish generations for thousands of years. These are simple, clean, and purposeful designed to fuel your body.
Pasture-raised meats, beef, lamb, goat, and venison.
Obviously, they don't mention pigs. wild caught fish with fins and scales, eggs, and clean dairy from sheep, goat or A2 cow. Now, if I tell you that right, if I stop right there, what does that sound like?
>> The the car mostly the carnivore diet, >> right? Okay. Then I go on and I say olive oil, which got to find you. There there's a place where there's a lot of corruption. olive oil, ghee, butter from grass-fed animals, nuts and seeds, and I guess you'd throw in tallow.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, what does that sound like?
>> Uh, I don't know.
>> Like, is it keto or >> That's keto. That's keto.
>> Keto.
>> Keto.
>> So, now you've taken carnivore and keto.
Okay. Then we go to unprocessed carbohydrates. unprocessed ancient grains like e corn, eorn, amlet, millet and quinoa, root vegetables and seasonal fruits like figs, dates, pomegranates and and citrus. Now when you add that unprocessed carbohydrates to the proteins and the fats, now you have what's known as the um Western Price Foundation diet.
>> I never heard I never heard it um said it that way before. I didn't know there's a name like that.
>> And then and then you've got fermented foods, yogurt, kefir, vinegar, kombucha, and sourdough bread.
>> Raw honey, and maple syrup.
>> Okay. Sauerkraut as well.
>> And someone Yeah. And someone has someone just said that someone just said that sourdough bread is not bread. Sourdough bread is >> is it being made though?
is is is got lactobacillus rutery um which is it's it's a critically important bacteria for our gut and very rare.
So it's it's got to be um it's got to be uh uh included by ver by like fermentation. Natto another good example. But anyhow, do you see what I'm saying? Like when you build that like when you build it that way, you kind of like cover all the bases. Now you've got individual conditions and individual physiology and cultural biases and you know and all this other stuff but that's that's um it's the way humans are supposed to eat.
>> Yeah. Uh I I'm slowly putting in new uh one food at at a time in my diet because I'm going to I'm s going to be seeing a personal trainer again. And I and she said I was too skinny so for a certain reason. So, she told me I I have to bulk up by eating carbs like uh potatoes, fruit, if you can eat it. Um stuff like that.
>> How tall are you?
>> 5'9.
>> Wow. You're taller than >> Yeah.
>> by two inches.
I don't I don't mind. It's funny because Yeah. When I was uh in junior high school, I also Well, >> but you're But you're But you're heavier than he is.
>> We're about the same weight. About the same weight, actually.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> So, I I'm trying to introduce She told me I should try eating oatmeal again. I don't know if you know any good resources of oatmeal.
Yeah, you gotta get you I've heard some really lately bad things about Bob's Redm Mill, you know, with glyphosate. Um I I would go with like an imported oatmeal, something that comes from Europe.
>> Okay. Because I bet it's >> maybe maybe and and it maybe steel cut oats like like for convenience reasons people buy rolled oats or instant oatmeal and they and they think they're doing I would buy something >> the most pro processed I read is that the instant oatmeal even if it's good um the the best out there still >> steel cut steel cut oats would be would would make sense.
>> Um, but I think I think that what these trainers I've seen this before here a lot of these trainers um they have experience they have a they have an experience that's important and that experience is like if they're really fit and and they sort of you know they're and and they know how to you know h have that happen.
um that a big piece of that has been their their diet and their diet's usually been wide as opposed to narrow.
>> You know, they're not just eating protein.
>> Yeah, I know. Because that that I know personal well people that want to be bigger, they have to eat like three to four meals a day and stuff like that.
So, they have to incorporate other >> Do you remember Do you remember the Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps? Yeah.
>> You ever did you ever look into what he used to eat in one day?
>> The most bizarre. He had the craziest D.
And yet when he stood there and he was getting ready to dive into the pool, he was thin as a rail.
>> Yeah.
>> So I don't know, but I think some of it has to do with your metabolism and your and your methylation. If if you're a high methylator and your metabolism, >> yeah, I get full very fast. So, >> just just a reminder uh if you're interested in the in the immuno techch product, let's see, slow it down.
um that you could contact Norman and uh he has they have all the makings in the immuno techch product to uh the precursors to making your own glutathione to your body producing your own glutathione. So that's a very important uh you know if if you're really working on your health. I think Norman what what Norman is saying is that we can't 100% restrict our diets unless we're growing our own and even then you still have chemtrails and other other uh kinds of worries but but we can at least detox to some extent. So I I think the these kind of products I know the the um LifeWave products the the structured water and the the photonic uh infused water from from the X2O machine.
We we're really having a great experience with that and and these patches which which don't put anything in your body. They're just >> Ellie. Which patch is that?
>> Uh this is actually X49.
I I put the X X39 under my belly button every day.
>> Okay. Okay. Because Yeah.
>> The guide the X39 guide has you putting them behind on your neck and >> I I do this to to kind of advertise that we're using the patches because I'm online a lot and it it's really whatever other patch I'm using besides X39. And sometimes I I could use up to four different patches. Certainly I love glutathione uh you know SP6 a lot of times uh and and a lot of other the eons sometimes if if I'm experiencing any kind of inflammation >> you know I started doing something interesting I I for whatever if anybody's interested in this um so I have like X39 on my back of my neck. You can't see it right now, but at the end of the day when it's done, I take it and I put it on my dog's um leash.
>> Do you attach it to like he has a leash and then not a le not a leash, a collar, I'm sorry, has a collar and on the collar he has a tag.
>> Yeah, >> I've heard that Dr. Stacey does well.
And it's >> Yeah.
>> Um I don't know what Chad is asking about. What about stomach enzymes?
>> But Lori Lori.
>> Hey Lori.
>> I guess I think what she's talking about is uh what stomach enzymes break down the sourdough bread. I think that's what she's talking about.
>> Yeah. hydrochloric acid, betane, HCL, um maybe ox bile. Um >> any of those >> I used to take ox bile before.
>> I >> Well, you want to tell me?
Yeah.
>> About the Bible thing?
>> Yeah. By law.
>> Oh, yeah. No, I don't want Yeah. It's not the right place to talk about that, but um let's uh yeah, just thanks for being here and I know you have a phone call to to get on. No, she somebody somebody has said to me that uh that they know >> he was talking about the Bible, >> right? But yeah, it's not not really gerine to to what we're talking about, but a friend of mine just said that that the Bible is by ball.
>> By ball.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Well, I don't normally use the word Bible, but I did I do it because I think certain audiences like if I don't know if you said Torah, would would people know what you're talking about?
If you said Old Testament, I don't like the word Old Testament because that implies there's a New Testament, >> right? Right.
>> Yeah.
>> But anyway, so yeah, Daniela wanted me to mention that. But anyway, we just it's always a pleasure to talk to you.
you're like a voice of sanity in this uh crazy world and we really appreciate it.
So I I guess we'll we'll speak with you uh next Thursday and you should have a great week.
>> Yeah. Um is Dr. Mel in Nevada?
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. Near near Reno.
>> Oh, up near Reno. Okay. Okay, cool.
>> Yeah. And she she is planning on coming on next week's >> Yeah. She she might be on the show next on this this show next.
>> Oh, sure. Good. Good. Good. That'd be great.
>> That'll really She knows a lot.
>> I got gumbo in prayers.
>> Nice, Lori.
>> That's great.
>> All right. Love you guys. Talk to you later and we'll see you next week.
>> See you next. Thanks so much.
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