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Trump Admin Preparing INVASION OF CUBA, Say Iran War ALMOST OVER| Timcast IRLAdded:
The Trump admin is preparing for an invasion of Cuba because we just can't get enough. Trump did in an interview.
He said the war in Iran is almost over.
This morning he said the straight is open and we're making China very, very happy. And I honestly I just I don't know what to believe at this point. I have whiplash from Trump saying it's open, it's closed, the war is over, the ceasefire and we just have no idea. I actually think Trump's plan at this point is to just keep going back and forth so everybody spins around, gets real dizzy, has no idea what's happening. Now, in the meantime, apparently there are concerns that Donald Trump wants an invasion of Cuba.
So, his administration has actually been drafting up plans for this invasion, which we all know the American people are hungry for. We've wanted Cuba back forever. And actually, I think most people don't care all that much. We'll talk about that. And then this may be the bigger story. Tommy Styer, who's now the front runner for governor in California after Eric Swalla had to drop out because he was accused of drugging and raping several women. Holy crap.
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>> Yes, sir. Thank you for having me.
>> Who are you? What do you do?
>> I'm a Renaissance man. I'm running for United States Senate in Virginia. I was running previously as a Democrat. Now I'm running as an independent.
>> Interesting. I think we'll have to discuss how that happened.
>> I think so.
>> We before the show I said, "Tell me uh you know what are your policies?" And it was all basically like liberalleaning policy, but they kicked you out, I guess.
>> Mhm. I wasn't liberal enough.
>> Not liberal enough. We're gonna have to talk about that. It'll be interesting.
So, thanks for hanging out. It's gonna be fun. A lot of course is hanging out.
>> What's up? Good evening, everybody.
>> We got Tate Brown holding it down.
>> What is going on, Patriots? Happy.
>> And of course, Carter Banks pressing the buttons.
>> What's up, everyone? Let's get into it.
Here's the story from the Independent.
Oh, boy. Pentagon ramps up plans for a military operation in Cuba in case Trump orders direct intervention. Report. I love how they've caveed this to like th this headline went through like five lawyers because the headline's actually simple. Trump admin prepares for invasion of Cuba. That's it. Okay. The story is Trump has discussed he may want to take military action. So they have begun drafting plans for that military action. But when they ramp up plans, okay, why are you saying it that way? in case Trump orders and they call it a military operation. Their lawyers like we got to be really careful about this one. They say two sources what the matter told USA Today on Wednesday that contingency plans are being developed in case Trump orders an intervention on the island nation. Sources also told Zetio earlier this week the Pentagon was given a direct strait from the White House to prepare for possible military action in the Caribbean. I'm going to tell you what this is right now, my friends. This is what we call a trial balloon in the media. These individuals who are leaking this story are not leaking this story.
In all likelihood, these sources were directed to contact a journalist and float the possibility of a military intervention in Cuba for two reasons.
One, to gauge the public response to the story, and two, prepare the public for the eventuality. If you if Trump were to do launch an invasion right now, it would shock the public. Markets would go crazy.
I would argue that maybe a month or two they're they're planning on a full in invasion military operation into Cuba on now to be fair things could change.
Let's say the Cuban government sees this and they say, "Guys, you're welcome to come in. We don't want to fight. Let's work a deal." That might happen too. So that that's a potential other reason.
Trump wants to this to be seen by Cuba.
So they panic and then call DC and say, "What do you want? We don't want this."
But I would argue the the highest probability is they want the public to be aware of the possibility. That way when it does happen, they go, "Ah, he finally did it." As opposed to being caught off guard. Yeah. I mean, I think every time you see a leak out of the Pentagon with the sort of revamped uh revamped, you know, security, obviously, like uh, you know, the kicked out of the old legacy media, etc., etc. Any leak that comes out of the Pentagon is calculated. At least that's my estimation. In addition to that, it's kind of inevitable. I think Cuba kind of feels inevitable if you just track like how the Trump administration has conducted reform so far. It's right there. I mean, hello. It's screaming out Hard Rock Cafe should be right there.
>> Well, and where has a great >> There's Cuban American population.
>> There's no Hard Rock Havana.
>> There's not a Hard Rock Havana. In addition to that, you have a secretary.
I mean, if there's if you're talking about like score settling, the Secretary of State's literally a Cuban his parents are Cuban refugees.
>> And then also >> Rubio Rubio shows up and he's just start speaking Spanish telling everybody he's in charge now. He's going to do that and then he's going to wear like a old classical like Caribbean dictator garb.
It's going to be really, you know, quite frankly >> drive a 1950s Ford.
>> It's going to be a beautiful thing. And in addition to that, I mean, the Florida mafia kind of litters the Trump administration. I mean, Susie Wilds is chief of staff. She's Florida. She's tapped the Florida network quite heavily for Trump administration staffing. And in Florida, to play Florida politics, you got to please the Cuban-American population there. And uh obviously this is a generational score settling that's probably going to go down. So, I don't know. I mean, the fact that they think it's like some off-the-wall hidden esoteric reporting, the fact that yeah, Trump is looking at Cuba, it's like the most inevitable thing ever.
>> Here's the thing, though. I bet the Trump admin could just go to Miami and then he Trump Trump himself would go to Miami, hold a rally, and just be like, "How many Cubans here want to take back your country? Here's a crate full of guns. Grab one. The boats across the street." And then they all just grab the guns and all like, "Let's go." And then, >> yeah, just >> they just invade their own country back.
>> Pontoon boats heading across. And who doesn't? We the people yearn for manifest destiny.
>> It's true.
>> That's true.
>> Yeah. And and honestly, out of all of our escapades so far, Cuba would be the easiest one. I mean, Cuba's military is really pathetic. Uh they're not heavily entrenched. Uh it would be really difficult for any arms funneling to occur. Like it just would be a layup.
Quite frankly, I'm kind of surprised actually they didn't go for Cuba first and then Iran. Um I guess, you know, the priority was limiting, you know, boxing in China. Well, you have to go after Venezuela first to cut off the oil supply and then the cash flow to Cuba.
Then you can go into Cuba under the narrative of liberation, right? And then annex them to Florida and two new GOP seats.
>> Well, they're on I I I don't know that Trump actually needs military intervention. They're on the verge of collapse as it is. All All he would really need to do is pick up the scraps after the government collapses. The power has been out for a long time. The people revolt, he just walks in.
>> Yeah. I feel as though the president is I suspect that he's emboldened because he's had so many military successes in the past year or so starting in Venezuela and now I think he thinks what's going on in Iran's going relatively well if you consider the the military cost obviously we've had I think roughly 20 or so announced uh deaths of service members each one is obviously a tragedy but considering what Middle Eastern wars used to be the president likes to do it fast and quick in and out within I think u what he did >> it's a under budget ahead of schedule.
>> Yeah, exactly.
>> They were back in Miami by the evening for partying. Like it was that quick.
>> So I think um and obviously what you said, Tate, um they're the administration is ridden with Fidians.
Marco Rubio, the current Secretary of State has had this on his list for some time. You also have to consider how what one of Cuba's main allies again was Venezuela and now also Russia, which is still bogged down um in Ukraine. I I know we like to forget. I think they are what just going on six years now this Ukraine war but that's really bogging down Russia in Ukraine and they've been one of their main supporters. They've been sending oil as well. There was one um unsanctioned um vessel oil tanker that was allowed to be brought in Cuba but Cuba is still being strangled by an embargo that we have on them. Um they're next on the list I suspect.
>> This is uh is interesting. Um if Cuba were a US state it would be around the 34th or 35th largest state.
>> Yeah. So, not the biggest right there in the middle, but uh plenty large. I mean, it's a big land mass and um I think they have what sugarce.
>> I do think it's also worth considering though the street of Hormuz is a very narrow waterway and it's relatively easy to block it with just some jihadist on a boat. So, if I don't know if there were some Cuban revolutionaries who decided to try to close the Gulf of Mexico, I hope the administration is a modern day guavara.
>> Yeah. I mean, all it takes is again a guy in a speedboat with a with a shoulder propelled missile to shut down the >> Can we just Can we just pause real quick and take a look at all the pieces on the chessboard and and now we start to see all come into the big picture. We we talked about it last night, of course, the military strikes in the Caribbean on these cartel boats precipitated the strikes on Venezuela, the surrounding of Cuba. It looks like everything they've been doing since they got in has been in preparation for largecale war targeting all of our adversaries.
I don't think the Iran war is an isolated incident. Obviously, Trump moved on Venezuela first for a reason. I don't think the shuttering of the straight of Hormuz is an accident. I think all of this is part of the deep state. Well, I shouldn't say the deep state, but the current intelligence agencies and the US government's plan. I think Trump is just the guy who goes on TV and says wacky things to keep people spinning in circles. I >> I think it would be fair to categorize and I I don't think it's like slander to say it is a sort of deep state apparatuses on Iran for 60 years. So, okay, Venezuela and China are not China.
Venezuela and Cuba are just dominants that have the fall to make Iran happen.
>> Yeah, Mark. So, you're not >> Let's look at the map, though, right?
>> Wow.
>> Look at that. So, we got Florida, Cuba.
Massive. Mexico.
>> Manifest destiny is something that we forgot a long time ago. But Mexico has the manufacturing.
>> You're saying we should conquer Mexico and Cuba >> ultimately James.
>> What about Canada? Are we going to let them get away with what they >> most natural resourcerich country?
Right.
>> Are you an anti-war guy?
I'm a pro- United States guy.
>> But what destiny LIKE THAT? YEAH, >> I WAS READING YOUR LITTLE I DON'T know manifes. No, I said >> if the United States conquered Canada very radicaliz Mexico and added them as states. It would just be a very large United States. So you're in favor of that?
>> Yes, because we would then have resources and manufacturing and it would make it so that we'd be more >> s Canadians.
Yeah, but do we own all the productions of >> We make the Canadians mine the things we want >> and we pay them less.
>> Yeah, I don't mean to sound nitpicky, but I'm reading here. It says >> Canada, >> it says the end of forever wars, the 20-year career model um is the engine that makes for >> Whoa, whoa, whoa. What did he say? He said get it done quick.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I think military uh should be 10 years then you get your pension, not 20.
>> He didn't say no wars and no forever wars. Yeah.
>> You know, you support his action, the president's actions in Venezuela.
>> In Venezuela to ultimately liberate Cuba. Yes.
>> But >> well, but hold on, hold on, hold on.
>> You have to do one before.
>> Yeah.
>> The oil assets in in Venezuela belong to the United States. We had a treaty with them to establish oil infrastructure.
They shook our hands. Our companies built it. And then uh uh um Chavez comes in, he takes it all.
>> Yeah.
>> He just stole it.
>> Yeah.
>> So when Trump goes in and takes out Maduro, he was taking back what was rightfully ours. That's justice, >> correct? And he was also cutting off the cash supply to Cuba, which then allows us to go in under this narrative of liberation.
>> I guess more specifically, do you support operation um epic fury right now?
>> Iran war in parts.
I think that it's executed in a way that will lead to a prolonged war, one that will be much longer than we believe it to be. And by sending ground troops in, it's only going to make it at least 8 months at the minimum.
>> Yeah. I mean, I guess there aren't troops on the ground there now. I guess which parts what do you support?
>> I support spreading democracy throughout the globe and I believe that we should do that in every way that we are capable. I >> haven't heard that one in a long time.
>> As long as not gay communism >> I mean, I do, but I just haven't heard it. Bush. I mean, >> got to bring that back. Huh, >> Cheney? I mean, >> nice.
>> No, but like if we're going to be the world's superpower, right? Like, >> what do you think we should be? Well, we have the most perfect architecture of governance ever created, right? We should spread that. That is our duty.
It's America to me is a religion, right?
I believe in America before I know. I'm a lapsed Catholic. I don't know what the ultimate truths are.
>> But I do believe that what we're doing here, greatest experiment we've had and it's the one that can help uplift the most people and make the most people have a better life >> by force. Well, it seems like necessary, but it seems like all these operations are like very little to do with ideology. And I think this is what separates the Trump Donroe doctrine from like any previous iteration of American foreign policy at least over the last 50 years is because all of these pieces seem to actually be part of like an anti-China posture more so than like they have to be.
>> I mean, compared to Bush where Bush was like purely about like ideological war where like I don't think Trump really cares that much about like Iran or Iranians and that's like fine. That's how it should be. He's primarily concerned at the Americans and he's concerned about China's sort of >> My problem is the people who are like we can't have any conflict intervention while China is saying that's right America go intervene and take over other countries. If they if China's going to be conquering the world and we're sitting back watching it happen it we're going to be very very unhappy. So this is this is the challenge that we have and I think for a lot of millennials >> the anti-intervention stuff largely is born from postintervention stress disorder from Iraq and Afghanistan which were botched. It was it was miserably done. They lied. It was very obvious they were doing a piss poor job.
However, that being said, if we sit back and allow China to just start, you know, expanding the belt road initiative, taking over everything, then we will regret it. that it will be very very bad for all of us because we do not have the economic infrastructure to exist outside the petro dollar right now.
>> Well, they're playing a long-term game.
We're not. That's always been our problem. At most, we play a four-year game. They're I mean, look at Singapore.
That's a 150year plan. China 100-year plan. We're going to get our asses handed to us if we don't wake up and see that we're managing this like it's a publicly traded corporation and we're being managed into bankruptcy. That's the problem. We need to look at the country as a publicly traded corporation. We're the shareholders, the citizens. And if we were to look at it, we say, "Oh we need to hire some turnaround restructuring bankers to restructure this country and make it so that we have to slash debt. We have to change exactly how we allocate capital and make it so that we actually have a future because we give money away.
>> We don't get a benefit."
>> We were talking a little bit about your background before the show. So maybe I think it would be good if you had like uh maybe 30 seconds or a minute to introduce yourself, what your quick background was, why you decided to get into politics and and how that affects the Virginia race now.
>> Absolutely. Mark Moran for a time long time. Uh I was I'm a licensed attorney.
Started off as an investment banker. Uh did about 75 billion of M&A. Uh worked on the most value destructive deals in history. Buyer Monsanto which consolidated 90% of the seed market uh CVS.
And I started to see that the system is entirely designed for people to capture wealth from it. That publicly traded corporations have more power than individuals. That is something the founding fathers never could have envisioned. Corporations were limited in size, duration, and geographic scope at the founding of this country. Now we have the Delaware Court of Chancery, which is business friendly. It makes it so that corporations, they can buy politicians. They can lobby for whatever they want. Even the pharmaceuticals.
>> Is that what motivates your politics more than anything? I guess sounds like you're really railing against these big businesses.
>> Absolutely. AB to restore power to the individual that I started running as a Democrat for United States Senate to represent Virginia against Mark Warner.
A lot of things happen. We can get into switch to an independent. But the larger ideology is that we're screwed. That we only have a few years left before this surveillance apparatus takes control of all of us.
>> So just you started as a Democrat. Um were you registered as a Democrat? Would you vote Democrat? How'd you vote in the most previous Virginia election?
>> Uh, I voted for Spanberger. I was split ticket. Spanburger, Miz, and then uh, Hashimi.
>> Why did you vote for Spanberger?
>> Um, well, one, she was a colleague of my father's. But, uh, two politics win some ser joke, >> you know, like not a serious candidate, and that was an offense to my liberty.
Really?
>> Sure. I mean, >> why like what what do you what what is gained from Spanberger?
>> Oh, nothing. And I mean I I and now looking at it, we're giving away so much that you can see that she's part of a larger plan that >> regret voting for her.
>> Yes, absolutely. 100%. I regret voting for her.
>> Oh, there you go.
>> That what she's doing to >> She's so recent though.
>> It's so recent, but look at how radical it's been that >> Yeah. Yeah. No, no, this this is a good point. Just to interject.
>> Uh she did not campaign on being a nut job ramming through a bunch of psychotic policies. She tried playing the moderate. She gets in and all of a sudden EVERYBODY'S LIKE, "WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. WHAT IS SHE DOING?" Now people are starting to freak out. Did she?
>> So I I I I accept Matt I'm sorry. Mark Sang uh that he regrets it.
>> Yeah, I guess you turned a new leaf.
>> That's how it goes. I mean I yesterday on my show I had conscious caracle Erns Vanzil. He's a South African activist and like he's literally describing why accelerationism is just like a flawed ideology because again when you like install the left into power to like teach the right to be more radical, all you really do is just bury the right further to this point like voting for a moderate a supposed moderate. I mean, Mandela coded moderate. Nelson Mandela coded moderate. And everyone was like, "Yeah, okay. He just wants like wholesome chungus like racial justice or whatever." And then literally 10 years later, they're like, "By the way, if your management's more than like 10% white, we're just like going to completely shut you out of the South African economy." So, it's like it's always going to be a bait and switch time. We're in a civilizational battle.
Like maybe if America was like fairly stable, then like you could believe politicians when they're telling you, >> but it's not stable by design. Listen, >> well, regardless of what the situation is, >> this is the function of politics.
Politicians run as moderates all the time because they want to they want a lowest common denominator voter base which maximizes their chance to win.
Then they get in, they do crazy things.
Trump ran as a moderate is a moderate and his supporters are actually angry.
He's not more of a right populist. He's actually a moderate. Meaning we got the bump stock ban. Trump's moderate. He's he's doing he he's enacting policies right now that have people shocked like I can't believe Trump's in favor of glyphosate. What made you think he wouldn't be? Don't get me wrong, he brought in RFK Jr. I get it. So, you thought RFK Junior would have an influence, but Trump is once again, he was a big pharma guy. He provided a bunch of funding from the pharmaceutical companies. Then you get uh now I will say the FISA thing is funny cuz Trump called for getting rid of the FISA, you know, surveillance stuff and now he's fighting for it. So, I'll give him that one. But with the Iran war, he's repeatedly said that he will not he would never allow them to have a nuclear weapon.
>> And he was pounding around with John Bolton in his first term. So the people that are acting surprised that he's friends with neocons. I'm like guys, >> he was the whole time he people were attacking him saying he didn't drain the swamp in his first term and you were hoping he was going to do in his second term. I'm not surprised by a lot of these things. Some of it, yes. My point is the Democrats run as moderates and then go insane. Trump runs as a moderate, meaning you're going to get a lot of these static corporate, you know, conservative policies. And people are upset that he's not actually more of what Span they want him to be what Spanberger is to the left, but for the right and he's not.
>> Did you vote for the president?
>> I did.
>> Interesting. Nice.
>> You have a fascinating, I guess, political background. I guess I don't know how things are in Virginia, so I'm just fascinated a little bit about your >> It's a purple state, but it's not governed by one.
>> And if you It must be something in the water.
>> This guy's purple. Well, it's just hair, honestly. And that's dye.
>> I think there's worse stuff in the in the water here in the PTOIC. I think there's a you know, >> a sewage spill or something. I don't know if >> Yeah. In DC, like a a historic sewage burst and just spewing sewage and everyone's just watching.
>> No one says anything. You look at Mark Warner's Twitter profile page, his background image is of the PTOAC at Great Falls Park. It's also massively being impacted by data centers, and we don't talk about that at all. You you've been railing a bit on data centers. How is that a significant issue? Maybe you could educate us a little bit. I think what they have more data centers than the average state. Why is why is that an issue? And a government funded infrastructure, right? Then that expands to Tyson's Corner, Virginia, where MAE East was the first large scale hookup of the internet. AOL goes there 1986. AOL expands to Ashurn, Virginia in 96. That creates data center alley, the most highly concentrated place of data centers in the entire country, which then now leads to the fact 70% of all daily internet traffic travels through the tubes in Northern Virginia. So we have 665 of them, 514 planned.
>> And this is why I keep telling people the government AI systems operating out of Northern Virginia, which they have not disclosed because it's classified, is substantially more powerful because it is taking the entire internet as its training data set. Whereas these other companies have to use isolated data pockets.
>> That's why they're all in Virginia.
>> Indeed. Elon buys bought Twitter because Twitter was a data training set. So that he launches XI right away. He merges them and it's worth an insane amount of money.
>> All of these other like chat GPT uses Reddit and other internet scraped things and they're and they're getting targeted for it. They're saying, "Hey, you can't take these things from us." The government just has the internet. They can take all of the data from everywhere for their secret military project. And for the life of me, I can't understand when people are like, "The government doesn't have this. They they they rely on Claude and and these other companies." No, guys, that's ridiculous.
The big concern that Donald Trump brought up in his first term with Project Stargate was that China can't be allowed to beat us militaristically using AI. So, the US military's absolutely been developing this at a faster and higher level. Companies have restrictions. The government does whatever it wants and it has black sites to do it and black budgets to do it.
There there was a tell me if you know about this because you might know more than I do. Last year we were researching a lot of the AI stuff and there was a reported electric a power consumption discrepancy in Northern Virginia where the amount of energy required for this population size would have been you know I forgot what the number was but there was something like a 250% discrepancy in the amount of power consumed. The presumption was there are data centers operating in Northern Virginia that we don't even know of.
>> Of course, of course there are. It's entirely by design. I mean, Darpanet created the internet, right? Like it was created by the government that all of these websit, we're giving our data away, which is why all the data centers started here because the latency effect. The closer you are to it, then boom, more information.
>> I think I just figured something out.
Yeah, >> I'm not worried about the Terminator, >> the Terminator scenario.
>> Yeah.
>> Because if the AI takes in all of what humanity is on the internet and uses that to create an amalgam faux consciousness, >> Yeah.
>> it will just stay home masturbating all day.
>> Yeah. It'll be a gooner.
>> It that's all it will do. It will it will like the government is, you know, government scientists are going to call in Trump and they're going to be like, "Mr. President, we are about to turn on the machine. Congratulations, sir. It's done. And he's like, "Tell me about it."
And they're like, "This AI has computational power 1,000 times stronger than all leading private sector LLMs."
And he turns it on and then it just makes the oo face. And it's like starts just mass- prodducing porn like crazy.
And he's like, "What is it doing?" Like, "Sir, this is what the internet is. Its personality is an amalgamation of what people are on the internet, which is 80% porn.
>> That's what you've created."
>> But to that point, the internet started off as a way to connect and share information, right? Yes, hold on. But sorry to interrupt.
>> No, please.
>> The speed of the internet was only increased because porn companies needed to transmit these images faster.
>> And that is exactly right. Right. Like this sex.com, have you ever read that book on it? It's a great book. I'll give you the link. But that was the most popular site for a while. Right. There's a widely regarded dispute on it. But it became this thing for porn, right?
Because you had to go to the Sears catalog growing up to look at anything.
Then at the touch of your hand, whatever you wanted, that's a way to destroy society. It's the same thing with gambling that it's like the more you push this stuff and look at Only Fans, right? Look at at the value destruction and the life destruction that does to both the creators but the people consuming it. It makes it so young men think one thing is real that they're talking to some girl on only fans when in reality it's a chatter in Indonesia.
>> Yeah. I'm I'm trying to understand though. Do you think these data centers are bad? Should we have more of them or should we govern them differently? How would you handle things? Yeah, we should govern them differently because right now they are taking energy from the main grid that we pay into, right? We pay for the capital improvements of it. So if they're going to be using more energy than a typical household, well, the people should be subsidized or get a benefit from it. So what I propose is a compute tithe one based off kilowatt hours that the data centers are using to make it so that if we were to put that on there, well, that would be enough to fund Universal Community College. It would in essence though be a tax on these data centers in one form or another.
>> Well, based off how much energy they're using, right? So, I would I would push back against the term tax because as a former banker, what all of these investors are doing right now, whether it's private equity, whether it's a hedge fund, whatever company, they want one uniform federal regulation for data centers, right? They want them to be designated as critical infrastructure so that then instead of dealing with 50 different states or even having to go to Native American nations that they can say okay we can expand across state lines we can do this we can do that right it gives uniformity and capital planning and allocation that means they're going to get money the investors they can have excuse me have a company go public they can ultimately get liquidity and make it so that they're getting what they put their money into that's going to happen regardless of who's in office, it's going to be some House of Representatives member who gets their campaign funded. So, if that's going to happen, well, I see the future of that.
I want that to happen. I propose that.
But I want to put a compute tithe on them so that the people can have education because if AI is the culmination of all human knowledge, well, shouldn't we get a benefit for it?
>> It's going to get absolutely insane. And uh all joking aside, I don't think that the AI will just be a gooner itself.
>> But the Terminator bots are not going to be, we talked about this before, but they're not going to be skeletons with guns looking all evil. They're going to be like cat-eared, sexy anime waifuss walking around because that's what's going to manipulate humans into doing what I'm half kidding. But AI is going to be the perfect companion and give you everything you want to push you into doing certain things that it wants you to do.
>> Yeah. Yeah, look what they've already done where it's like before if you wanted to order Door Dash, it'd be like an angry Guatemalan who's like on the verge of deportation where now it's just like a little car that rolls up and it like makes chirpy noises and it's like fun and you almost feel bad for it.
>> I I actually rather enjoy the videos where people >> destroy them.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, I love that.
>> I I don't I don't want anyone to do that. Don't do that. Don't vandalize things that don't belong to you.
>> But when I see these videos of people like there's there's a vid You know what? I'll just settle on this. I like the videos where these things crash and get hit by cars and stuff.
>> You see the one get hit by a train?
Yeah.
>> I don't know. Maybe it could be like a hormonal issue or something, but I I feel really bad >> with the robot.
>> Yeah. When I see the crashes, I'm like, poor guy.
>> You might be interesting.
>> Yeah. Maybe you're a woman.
>> And it could be and I don't have the same reaction for the previously stated the Guatemalan door dashers, I'm just like, wow.
>> You know, you know, I will say this though, like when I'm watching a movie, uh what was I watching today? I was watching I watched The Boys and I was watching uh Invincible and um >> Holly, great movie. there. Uh there's just so much gore in both of those shows. One's live action, one's a cartoon, though. And uh my wife is like, I don't want you like don't let our daughter watch this. This is is gory and disgusting. I feel nothing when I'm watching a movie and like a dude gets shot, but if a dog gets hurt, I'm like, turn it off. Turn it off. Those robots I enjoy. So like robots I enjoy when they get smashed. People I'm just like, oh look at that. They they shot the bad guy.
>> A dog. Yeah. Yeah, I cried during an Airbud. I get it.
>> It's real. I the the I am the I AM Legend scene where he has Oh, he has to kill the dog. Oh, >> brutal. But then you'll watch a movie where they're like killing hundreds of thousands of people and you're like, this is a good movie. Yeah, this is interesting. It's like it does weird things with human psychology or it's just me. I don't know.
>> Indeed.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I just >> But that's exposure to the internet.
Like we weren't designed to consume the internet the way we do in the volume that we do, right? Like I'm 34. I grew up on a on a kind of a verge of generations where we had it probably like fourth grade on. But now you have kids growing up with the internet.
They're iPad babies.
>> Mhm.
>> N kid.
>> Yeah. Not yours. Right. But think about everything.
>> We're going to we're raising my daughter like it's 1981. And then when she's older, what we're going to do like So we're not going to let her go anywhere or travel at all. And then when she's finally like 15, we're going to stage a cataclysmic event. Okay.
>> And then we're going to be like, "Oh, what happened?" I don't. Oh, we've been transported to the future. Oh, geez. Oh, what's this thing? Uh, tablet. Oh, >> like it's 1981. It's like, yeah, the Faullands. I don't know what's going on.
The >> rumspringer for the Amish.
>> We're going to We're going to play only news from the 80s and we're going to get like an old UHF TV.
>> Yeah. Be like got to get down there.
Thatcher's got to do something from the outside. Maybe with Brandon Frasier.
>> We're going to That's right. Yeah. We're going to build a big fence around the property and be like, "You can't go outside because the uh radiation will get you." That's base.
This Reagan guy, you know, he's doing a decent job. I think he's all right. You know, we'll see.
>> Yeah. You know, make America great again. I like that sound. That's a good phrase. I wonder if President of the Future might say something like that.
>> Like this Trump University thing is going nowhere. It's dead in the water.
>> Look at this Trump guy on Oprah.
>> Yeah, he's interesting.
>> Look at that.
>> He's really obsessed with Iran. I don't know what he keeps talking about.
>> Oh, no. It's too It's too late. We've already shown her all of the 90s punk rock. It's over.
>> Oh, wow. She's been a containment breach.
>> Containment. It's done. It's going to be tough.
>> Yeah.
>> Let's uh let's jump to the story. We got this from Time magazine. Trump says Iran war close to over. Hints at possible deadline ahead of royal visit. Indeed.
He said that uh China he's permanently opening the straight making China very happy. And uh I can't figure out I actually I should say this. What Trump says does not matter. I don't know the straits actually been open for China because Trump just says things. All that really matters and we talked about this last night is what is happening. And now we've been talking about Trump might go into Cuba, might go into Venezuela. Yo, I think at this point with this Cuba news and a stuff with China and all that, I think Trump does not care. He's not up for re-election. I just don't And you know, you know what it is?
I was thinking about it. Even if the Democrats win the midterms, they can't stop his foreign policy agenda. That's the one thing that they cannot do anything about.
>> Yeah.
>> Now, they can have judges say, "Trump, you can't do that and he's going to be like, "You have no authority under the Constitution." And he can order troops to do things. So, it kind of seems like Trump's just we're doing our foreign policy thing for the next several years and no one's going to get in our way.
Domestic policy, I think he's shrugging on just black pill on the midterms and saying, "F it. We're going wherever we want. We're doing whatever we want.
Instead of making the political calculation, no, he's acting in America's interest, not in his own political interest." What a true patriot. Well, Mark, you made the point earlier and it's true is like this is kind of the flaw of of like democracy broadly is that again like American presidents have to think in terms of four years honestly in terms of two years because of midterms that happen.
So it's like it's really difficult for American presidents to conduct a truly proprietary foreign policy. And then I was listening I was listening to Michael Tracy he he made this point. I don't know if he still like is on this or not but he was saying like yeah Trump I think has just kind of given up on the midterms. He might be just looking at the numbers and saying it's untenable.
We're probably not going to win. So, I might as well just like put my name in the history book.
>> Or or they have other plans for how to win that don't involve public opinion.
>> No, I mean they tried the Save America Act. It was never going anywhere. They also tried redistricting a bunch of red states to gerrymander further. That didn't go anywhere.
>> Well, on that point, >> like it only got worse.
>> Some would say it backfired, right?
Because then you have Virginia potentially going a 10-1 map, right? But it's all reactionary. Democrats only know reactionary politics.
>> Did you you've seen Virginia, right? And it is an affront to liberty.
>> It has five districts. It's a lobster.
>> That's true. But five of the congressional districts have little tiny strips that connect to Arlington to guarantee that they get a massive spattering of Democrats in all of these districts.
>> Yes, it is evil.
>> There's something to say though about how the Republicans and the president really did initiate this round of gerrymandering and then just got mobgged over it. They really >> mogged. But you get mogged right now. I don't think that I think Trump's playing 5D chess. I think that he >> give it to me.
>> I think that he could tell that you you look at what's going to happen in Virginia. You see Senator Louise Lucas who told me that I wasn't welcome in her party uh after I came out against Jerry Manderin that you know what she's going to do a power grab.
>> What's the 5D chess part? Losing the midterms. Okay.
>> No. Then Virginia responds, right? You do Texas, Virginia responds, right? Then you get Cuba. That's two new geopolitical liberations. You're saying he's going to make Cuba a state?
>> No. No. HOLY >> THE NEXT MIDTERMS.
>> OH >> YEAH, I KNOW. THAT'S It's a good idea.
>> Florida takes Cuba and Cuba just becomes Florida.
>> Yeah, that way we could keep.
>> And he'll say he'll say Michigan is two different strips of land. Why can't we do it here?
>> Yeah. Wow. Maybe they could just get a Puerto Rico, too, while we're at it.
>> I mean, with the paper towels. as long as we're shooting them in there.
>> So long as we could water down the Democrat votes in Puerto Rico with the patriotic Cubans, they're all the same.
Who? I mean, >> it's true, you know? Okay, >> distinction without difference.
>> Burrito, I don't know what's going on over there. Uh, but like the problem is there's 10 million Cubans and like all the Cubans that are conservative have left. So, it's like all the ones that are left behind and they're impoverished, right? They want an opportunity for better tomorrow, which is America. As soon as the Democrats just start dangling the identity politics keys, that's going to that's going to >> No, they'll be thankful and uh loyal to the president who liberated them. I I guys in decades their child their children will be loyal to the president.
They'll be saying, "Oh, however told stories about the great president who liberated our should if Democrats never did the gay communism thing, they they would have controlled government for the past 15 years."
>> Well, then they wouldn't be Democrats.
>> I I I guess. But I mean, in terms of their their foreign policy views, in terms of their tax policies, healthcare, if they just did not do transing the kids, if they did not do weird woke anti- comedy stuff, they'd have won. Joe Rugen would have been like, I don't know. I don't care. They're they're fine. Instead, they were like, no jokes allowed and trans and the kids. And then people were just like, I'm out.
>> But it seems like the animating issue >> I'm I'm sorry. Sorry. Real quick. One of the big stories today is that California is providing free sex changes to homeless illegal aliens in Cal. And you know, Tay was saying earlier is like it's like a right-wing headline generator.
>> Yeah. Literally.
>> And I I was saying this in my segment.
It's like Gavin Newsome just was like, "We need we need to do something, you know, just press the auto autoleist button and they just combined a bunch of buzzwords together." But they are literally using tax. It's it's taxpayer dollars being spent so that homeless illegal aliens can get sex changes.
>> Yeah. Literally like they were like uh Governor Nome um Hassan's hit you really hard. He's like we got to do something really gay. Like we got to do something obnoxiously gay and we got to do it quick.
>> Meanwhile, no one has healthare, >> right?
>> And that's the thing. It It's all fake politics. Yeah. Right. Then you get it.
But an American who was born here doesn't have it.
>> What is the answer though to healthcare?
I feel like the Republicans >> Everyone knows.
>> I mean, he was hinting on it a few times. I feel like you Yeah, that might be part of this.
>> One start is as a former healthcare investment banker. There was one moment >> former healthcare investment banker.
>> Yeah, I know. I worked for Peter Wars who implemented >> politician. Yeah.
>> Uh and then later Rahm Emanuel. And so I saw the evils firsthand removing publicly traded companies from healthcare, right? Or at least changing their behavior because a publicly traded company has a fiduciary duty, it's called, for their shareholders, right?
So they're managing to make them money, not for the patient. and we lose as government. We're spending 1.5 trillion in Medicaid a year. We just give it away. We don't get any equity in.
>> They shouldn't be publicly traded. So what if be involved and how much should the government >> or if they are if we're going to be giving these healthcare companies 1.5 trillion, we should get equity in it because if we were to adopt that across industries to everywhere the government is giving money, well, we would be able to have birth accounts with $25,000 at birth for every kid born in America. So you want government to have a stake in these companies, the ones that we subsidize? We subsidize, right, this industry because we want healthcare to be cheaper for Americans.
>> But but wouldn't every investor who gives money to invest in something, don't they get an equity stake? That's all I'm saying that we should manage this like a publicly traded corporation and then to the benefit of our people.
>> Yeah, I guess that would f I guess government is already very involved in healthcare, but would that only further government involvement though? As a capitalist, as I understand, the more the government gets involved, it makes the incentives more perverse. So, get government getting involved in healthcare hasn't made it any cheaper.
You want to solve that problem with more government in healthcare. I know healthcare is a very complicated.
>> No, no, no. I'm talking I'm talking about the equity state cuz you're a capitalist, right? So, what we're doing now is anti- capitalist. We give 7 trillion away each year. The United States government spends it. When you say that you're talking about social security, >> all of it in Medicare, right? Even the one trillion on our interest that we spend, right, in totality, we don't get anything from it. There are companies north or >> are you specifically I'm trying to understand. Are you talking about Medicaid and Medicare when you say we're giving them >> so a company called Centine, which is $150 billion company, we give them 97% of their revenue.
>> Yet we have no equity in that. So what are we doing is my question. We're acting as a poor fiduciary. And if we were to get equity in it, well, that incentivizes this publicly traded company to grow to manage for its shareholders because we are the shareholders now, too.
>> The government, if we're going to give all this money away, which is our money that we pay in taxes. Well, we need a benefit and we don't have one right now.
And we've never looked at the government as a publicly traded corporation. It's time to look at the government.
>> Are you a Medicare for all guy?
>> I am a healthcare as a basic right, but Medicare for all is not going to work.
What is that going to work?
>> Basic right though.
>> I believe that healthcare should be free for all American citizens and that we should have something much more similar to um the way the uniform services have them. That people are subsidized to go to medical school that they benefit the community basic treatment normal.
>> Hold on. You'd have to deport every illegal immigrant to do that.
>> Well, I think we should have closed borders. And that I think what we should do is when we do that, well then you can start enforcing through the actual employers, right? So when ICE went in in the central valley of California, they stopped enforcing because all of the large corporate farmers said, "Hey, this is really affecting us." Right? So they went elsewhere. What I'm saying is that we're always going to have certain labor groups that we're never going to be able to to actually fulfill with domestic American-born Americans trying to get jobs. One of the guys getting interviewed, white dude was asked, "Why do you want to work here?
Americans typically don't take these jobs." He goes, "It pays more than the gas station."
>> Well, and with those processing plants, I agree. I was talking about farm work, but with this, I agree. Like, let's look at >> You got to pay. Let's look at Smithfield in Virginia.
>> The companies, the farms should pay a wage that attracts American workers to work those fields.
>> I agree with that. I just don't know if in the free form of capitalism we have now that'll happen. But going to Smithfield, >> it'll absolutely happen.
>> Okay. Okay. And I would love that.
>> Let me ask you let me ask you let me ask you a question. I got a we're opening up a coffee shop. How would you like a job working behind the counter running the cash register for me?
>> How much?
>> Good question. And that is the correct question. Uh how much do you want?
>> I mean for me, you know, if I can if I can come on here once a week, I call it $25 an hour. I would do that for service with a smile investment.
>> No, no, no. You nailed it for Hold on.
That was that that was the correct response. Most people say, "No, I wouldn't want to work that job." No. No.
The correct answer is how much.
>> Yeah.
>> And that's the question that these farms >> when they put up jobs saying we need people to work these fields, it's not a question of Americans don't want to do it. It's a question that they don't want to pay. Their concern is this is a this is a sickness our country has where a lot of these farms say, "Listen, we pay 10 to 15 bucks an hour. Typically Americans don't want to do that because they want to find a higher paying job."
Well, then pay 20 25 an hour. Yeah, but that means I got to sell the kale for like 30 bucks. Indeed, you do. And then the people who want it will have to pay 30 bucks to get it. But guess what?
They're working on your farm for 30 bucks an hour. That's the point. When we do this game of bring in illegal immigrants, it is it is it's an addiction that drags the system down and stunts the economy. It >> destroys it on purpose. And now we have simultaneously people like Zoran Namdani saying people aren't getting paid enough. So food's too expensive. So we're going to do government grocery stores and things like this that the the government is is is I'll put it like this. A lot of libertarians say government is the problem. I don't agree with that. I'm not I'm not a staunch libertarian on government. Government should be enforcing our labor laws and our immigration laws to protect the American people so that these companies don't do these things. I agree with Bernie in 2016 when he said open borders is a Koch brothers proposal. We don't want to do that. I firmly believe that if we were to make these jobs competitive that that that guy who burned down that factory in Ontario, >> he wanted $27 an hour.
>> I thought he was getting it. That that the the rumor is that he was getting it.
>> Yeah. Well well the reporting I saw was that he was getting 27 an hour and he said it wasn't enough. Yeah.
>> Because the uh or he was getting 23. the I looked up the uh average income for that factory was $23 an hour.
>> So, this guy said, "That's not enough."
And it was funny because someone some other guy interviewed said, "I just it sucks. I just started making good money working here."
>> But uh again, to the point to not not to interrupt, but you can jump back to where you're at.
>> I think that uh I I got to be honest, you go to a you go to a Gen Z guy who's 18 and say, "You want to work the farms?" They're going to be like, "Fuck, how much is how much does it pay?" And they're going to say, "How much do you want?" Like, "I don't know." And look, I I got to tell you, 20 bucks an hour, they'd be like, "All right, I guess, roll up your sleeves."
>> But also too with that, it's that anyone 18 to 20, right? Like either they're going to go to college, they're going to take out loans, they're going to screw up the rest of their life by doing that, right? Is going to be destroyed by AI.
But this is what I'm getting at with the community college system that we have to have an entire rethinking of education.
that 18 to 20 you should be able to go work at the farm $20 an hour, $25.
Figure out if you like that or not.
Maybe you want to be in upper management of the farm, which seems very slim because it's a farm, but that we have to really think about this because meaning has to be provided in work too, right?
And I think that's my biggest concern with where we're going with AI. That if we remove meaning from work, what do we have? Our culture was built because of the industrious nature of the American people. And that is something that we need innately to our core. And if we don't have that, then who are we?
>> Yeah. I think we have a cultural problem. Yes.
>> That if you go to a Gen Z guy who's just sitting there on Instagram scrolling and say, "You can actually start working right now to save up. All you got to do is go work on a farm." They're going to be like, "No." Because they don't believe in the future.
>> There's a there's a there's a viral video that I want to pull up that I you know, I got I got everybody all mad at me for because they're like, "No, Tim, you're wrong. This woman is correct."
But this woman is not correct. She's a commie. And uh let me pull this. It's The video is going massively viral. I think you guys know what it is. I got it right here. Let's uh let's play this.
Let's play this video. She swears a whole lot. She swears a whole lot. It's kind of annoying.
>> I got to unmute it.
>> We are living all types of wrong. Like you mean to tell me I've actually had it with the United States of America because baby, we are living all types of wrong.
>> We're not. Like, you mean to tell me I gotta go to work 40, sometimes 50 hours a week only to get two weeks to pay vacation while the rest of the world gets five. Peasants used to get 154 days off. I'm not even treated like a peasant anymore. I got to drive an hour to work and back if I'm lucky. If I pay to commute, I'm paying for a train or a bus or Uber ride. And if I'm not doing that, then I'm paying for tolls on roads that my tax dollars already pay to build and maintain. I got to pay to get a driver's license or a license plate for the driving on the roads that my tax dollars again paid to build and maintain. Then I need an oil change, a tire rotation. Pads are $1,000 per axle on a base model Kia Optima since when you >> we get it.
>> Hold the also that my pedophile of a Satan worshiping baby eating president can blow up children halfway across the world and stop resources. We got a looming energy crisis. We have a food shortage affecting the entire globe. My tax dollars don't go to healthare. They give me just enough healthare to keep me alive long enough to work. But let's start from point number one.
>> In the beginning, she says that peasants got more days off than she did. That's not true. This is because peasants who lived on farms didn't farm in winter, but they still had to struggle to survive. meaning chopping wood and hunting and huddling together for warmth, fearful that if you run out of food or bandidos come, you will die. But I have a solution for her. It's simple.
If you want to live like a peasant, it can be done. Sudan awaits. There will be no air conditioning. There will be no internet. You will make $50 per year.
You will make barely enough food to get by, but you'll work relatively little compared to what you do here in the United States. You you with your education, man, you'll be a king over there. So, what what what really irks me about these communists? And then starts talking about Trump being a Satanist pedophile. Let's go to the next point.
She says, "We got a food crisis around the world." I'm I'm you know what? I'm a Democrat. I'm just every day I'm more and more on board with how Democrats their political philosophy is we're smarter than you and we know it. So, we're going to lord over you by tricking you. I'm kidding, by the way. But that's what I'm I'm kidding about me wanting to do that. My point is, let let me let me ask Eli. Let me ask you a question so we can get through this. If you have a a group of people who live in an area >> and they have they are consuming all of the food available to them and so it's not enough and they're starving, what will happen if you bring food to them?
>> They will become dependent on me.
>> Why?
>> Why? Because um because I'll keep feeding them. Well, why would they why would they why would they become dependent on you for food?
>> Because I would be providing them the resource and they wouldn't need an alternative because I'm providing >> I thought they would need it. Is it there isn't one. So, if you have starving people and you say we're going to go to an area where people can't produce enough food and bring food from somewhere else, they will need that forever. And here's where it gets here's where it gets real good. Do you know what those people will then do if you are feeding them consistently?
They will bite the hand that feeds.
>> No. What will people do when they have adequate food?
>> They're fat and lazy.
>> No. Anybody >> hate phone? They'll have children.
>> They'll have children.
>> They'll make more people. And then guess what? Then they'll knock on your door and say, "We have three new babies. We need more food." So it is impossible functionally, physically, and economically impossible to solve the hunger crisis because we don't live surrounded by Star Trek replicators. If there is a region on the planet that produces, let's just say, 7 million calories and you have a population that consumes that 7 million calories per year, they cannot produce more people beyond the amount of calories available for consumption. If you then bring in artificially 1 million calories and they consume it, they will then meet reach population equilibrium with the artificial influx of food, then when you take that food away, they will starve and you have more starving people and they will require a larger subsidy creating an impossible and endless cycle. But these people who post these videos, these are first order thinkers.
Mary Morgan said literacy was a mistake because people can't understand the things they're actually reading. And sometimes I agree. I don't know if I'd go so far, but man, sometimes you feel it because this is how you get communists. Zoran Mandani opening his stupid government grocery store. Did you see this?
>> $30 million to open a 9,000 foot grocery store in 3 years. It takes a year and I think $2 to5 million to open a comparable grocery store in the private sector. Mani then said, "But actually only bread, milk, and eggs are going to be uh reduced cost. Everything else will be the same." That's government. They just it's it's not going to solve the problem. He's going to create this this it's going to be it's like the DMV. It's going to be like puit IO. There's going to be crime, poverty, and theft. The people who work there are going to turn the are going to look away as people are stealing everything. The it's going to struggle to make money. The funny thing about it is that it's $30 million despite the fact they already own the land.
>> You know, you know what I think it is?
No, I think it's Mandani going to his buddy and being like, "Hey, man. I'm going to make you a millionaire. You're going to you're going to do the contract work for us. we're going to hire you and I'm going to give you $30 million for it. And his friend goes, I don't know, man. It only cost $5 million to do the job. Nah, that's how government works.
>> You know, I wonder what would happen if somebody stole from the governmentowned grocery store and if police got involved. Would they get physical with him? And then what Zoron Madani's response would be to that >> all everything has shown us. That's not it's it's not going to happen. Crime.
>> I just I I love >> No, but he's just anti- cop, I guess, would be the >> And I love that she's just complaining about like basic functions of the first world. It costs money to get a driver's license and to register my car. I'm like, >> yeah, that's called America.
>> What he's speaking of is just the larger hopelessness that Gen Z has, right? And it's because if you look at housing prices based off the median wage, it's gone astronomically since 1940.
>> That's that's that's true. But I will stress this. There is a standard of life of living. Yes.
>> That Gen Z and millennials expect that did not exist for boomers and Gen X at the time. and they want the luxuries as well as the excess. And historically, it always got better for the next generation. That is not true now. And so I can understand some of that angst.
That being said, you can always move to rural West Virginia where you're 2 hours away from every major from a bunch of major metros. So if you move to like uh let's just say you go slightly inland from the eastern panhal in West Virginia, you can find a bungalow for a hundred grand. I know you don't have 100 grand, but it's okay. You can get it for $5,000 down, which means you do got to save up. And then you're going to be spending 600 bucks a month on your mortgage. And uh you can farm largely, not need to make much money if you're growing your own food in your yard, which is not too difficult. And then you get your car, you can drive a couple hours to be in any major metro that you want. I'm not saying it is preferable.
I'm not saying that it's good for our generation, but to complain about I got to pay tolls and I got to register my car, I got to do all these things. It's like indeed you do, but you could choose to do something else. What she is saying is I want luxuries, but cannot produce enough for society to give me ease of access.
>> Yeah.
>> I will never be on the side of a person who's like, I want more, but I can't produce. That's called nature. I'm sorry. Have a nice day.
>> Yeah. Absolutely. But to your point, that example, that's the most American way of living that there is, right?
Self-subsistence. Like this is what Jefferson fought against Hamilton for decentralization.
The idea of an agrarian society. And then you look at urban areas like let's look at Fairfax County, Lowden County, the spread Arlington through from DC where now, okay, you go, you drive your Tesla, you eat your corporate slot bowl for $15 at lunch, maybe $20. Then you go you to your rented apartment that's owned by a private equity firm. You'll own nothing and you'll be happy because you're consumed by your phone. That's what that's derivative of.
>> Leave. But I I well I think she's articulating a completely different I agree that the root of this is nihilism.
But I think there's like two splintering like uh resolutions for this nihilism you're singing zoomers is some zoomers look to the right and they say well I don't have meaning in my life. Like that's the issue. I don't have meaning.
Everything feels like pointless. I feel a void inside of myself. That's not what she's articulating. She's articulating a shortage of material items and that's why she's finding difficulty participating. So in her instance again where I I was like she's having trouble sort of articulating what her problem is and she starts lashing out like again first world amenities. It's like you would still be a loser even if you got all those things.
>> Let's just remove the context of like the thing she wants and just go to pure numbers.
>> She says I require X amount of monetary units. I only produce XUS 5 monetary units. I am so mad at the United States.
The problem is we as a nation, the west really subsidizes people who uh uh are are net negative production.
>> Yes.
>> That ends in only the worst imaginable ways and people die. So you have you the thing about humans that's interesting that sets them apart from say deer. Uh a few years ago we had a deer overpopulation issue in western uh Maryland. They had consumed all of the available food and reproduced like crazy. So they were all very gaunt and sickly and slow and it caused a lot of car accidents and they were like I guess the government I think the government was saying like guys you need to go hunt these deer. There's too many. It's deer season. Go you need to cool them so that they go below equilibrium so that they don't all like be nasty, sickly, and diseased. The problem is deer walk around eating leaves and you know things like that and berries or whatever.
Humans rely on other humans for various tasks. One human will gather, one human will hunt, one will make the fire in the shelter, and then we combine those resources. Because of this mentality we've had, we have built a society that tries to subsidize everybody else because we're trying to be like, I'll provide for you, you provide for me. The only problem is in the wild if one person was producing in detriment a negative they were consuming more than they were producing it was tolerated only to a certain point until the society failed or they cast that person out. In modern society where we don't know our neighbors and we don't talk it's difficult to see who is a consumer and who is a producer. This woman is complaining that she is a consumer who wants more. The problem this is this is what leads to communism. I am a producer. I work an an insane amount of I work 16 hours every day and sometimes on weekends. They then come to me and say, "We should take from you because you produce too much." Okay, I'll stop and I'll just work the bare minimum. So, what do what do I do? Well, everything's expensive. What did I do? We move out to West Virginia where land is cheap. We build here where labor is cheaper. And now we have a large property with a big studio at a much, much lower cost.
Instead, you know what I should have done? I regret it. I should have complained to the government and demanded that they steal the assets from wealthy people and give it to me so that I can have it. Then I can live in the city. That doesn't make sense.
>> No, it it doesn't. But it's also a system of design by how our government functions, right? Because we give people things for free. We subsidize, right? To your point. But until we change this whole thing where we provide basic necessities, but then you allow the individual to rise, which is what America was founded upon, that's the only way this works. But we're in an overlevered society right now. We can't keep doing this.
>> Universal basic income will never work.
>> No, it won't at all. It'll destroy.
>> But this this plays into universal healthcare as well.
>> Sure.
>> You're subsidizing the health of individuals who can't pay for it themselves. This of this that system is guaranteed to collapse. It's it's it's high school basic math. Not even high school, it's grade school math. Input is negative, output is positive. System goes bankrupt. But when the medical cost ratios are mandated by governments by health for health insurers rather, well, that system's all an arctic.
>> We can agree that the structure we have is broken. Yeah.
>> That the healthcare pricing makes no sense. Yes.
>> And we and there's got to be a change to it.
>> But the idea that as a country you can guarantee all healthcare for everybody.
>> Not all you can, you know, basic.
>> I agree with basic.
>> Sure.
>> And my argument is if you break your wrist, you walk in, they set it for you.
Like so you're saying how you would define it just to be clear like an urgent care setting type thing. Okay. I fully agree with that. Right.
>> I think I think we should have uh uh publicly funded urgent care. Like I love that.
>> And so that means >> a your average like I've had to go to urgent care.
>> Yeah.
>> And uh it's not a big deal. It's not super expensive. And I wouldn't mind sp paying the 40 bucks for somebody who who needs to go in and see a doctor for 10 15 minutes so they can get some tam flu and not die of the flu. The problem with universal healthcare in the bigger picture is that there are a lot of people with more complicated illnesses that require millions of dollars in treatments >> and we're never going to be able to cover all those, right?
>> Surgeries and other crazy things >> or advanced treatments that if you have a little bit more money, you want to go down to Boaton. We're never going to be able to do that.
>> I think I I don't see a big problem with uh stipened urgent care kind of systems where if you go to urgent care, here's what we have to be careful of. If the government guarantees things to doctors, then people will overuse it.
>> Yes.
>> And it will result in uh perverse incentives.
>> Are you familiar with the old uh apocryphal story about the snakes in India or whatever?
>> Mhm.
>> Was it the snakes? It was in India or something. The the I this is probably not the correct version. I'll look it up. But it's like the British colonials in India were like, "We got a bunch of snakes in this village." So they said to the villagers, "If you bring us the heads of snakes, we will pay you for them. This will wipe the snakes out. So what did the villagers do? They started breeding snakes.
>> Smart.
>> So you have to be careful about subsidizing things to create a perverse incentive.
>> Absolutely.
>> The general idea is there was a story about like a like a 12-year-old kid who got the flu and the parents didn't know what to do and they couldn't afford to go to the hospital. He died and they were like it was just a bad flu and if they gave him even a little bit of medicine to get his fe fever down, he could have survived. I'm like that kid should not have died for that. That's stupid. Or the stories of people who like break a bone and they don't go to the hospital because they're like, "I don't want to get a bill." Or people who have emergencies and won't call an ambulance.
>> Yo, I had an emergency. I called the taxi.
>> I called the cab.
>> Yeah.
>> I was like, "Bro, I'm not I'm not spending 500 bucks." So, in 2014, I got a kidney stone hanging out at my friend's house. And all of a sudden, it felt like I got stabbed. And I was like, "Oh my god, something's wrong." And so, I was like, "The hospital's a half mile away. I just used the uh the NYC cab app and called the cab. And I was like, >> New York though, that's a thing.
>> They had cabs.
>> Yeah.
>> But I was like, I'll spend the 10 bucks on the cab. I'm not spending 500 on an ambulance.
>> Exactly.
>> That's that's kind That's kind of nuts.
But I do understand an ambulance is expensive.
>> So So finding that balance is very difficult.
>> I think uh universal basic healthcare, which is you are sick, a doctor will see you, >> general care, >> general care and emergency uh uh uh emergency rooms, they're relatively cheap as it is. I don't think they will be overrun by people if we if we uh uh subsidize that to a certain degree. To a certain degree, I say that means catastrophic serious injuries that require deep surgery. You're going to get treatment for we're not we're going to triage you. We're not going to let you die. We need to figure out how to absorb those costs without putting that on everybody else, which is what happens. I don't know how you solve for this. It's not easy.
>> So, how how you do it is that we're giving away 1.5 trillion a year to Medicaid companies. You look at a company like Centine, $150 billion.
We don't get anything in return. So going back to your point, we're >> When you say we get nothing in return, aren't we receiving the health care services in in return? Am I missing something here?
>> The people are right. So it's a redistribution.
>> We're paying on their behalf, though. So >> we're paying taxes to the government for then the government to send and just give away to then treat people who don't pay taxes.
>> Well, you want healthcare for everybody.
So they're not just Yeah. They're giving it away to people who presumably would need it. But if 97% of revenue for say a centine comes from government distributions, well, we're in the negotiating seat. We should get equity in it that builds that grows so that that company runs.
>> You want healthcare for everybody. How else I'm trying to understand if >> basic healthare >> if the government isn't the one providing that then how else would you get there? Because I think what you're explaining now is the government's already heavily involved and we should I don't know >> in terms of giving money away, which is not capitalism. I think providing healthcare for everybody would only get the government more involved with paying for these services and the the healthcare companies would make even more money and the perverse >> they would pay more money. But if we were to actually manage this as a fiduciary democracy rather than giving money away which to me is socialism we would be in a much better place.
>> What is it? I mean do you want a singlepayer system or a nationalized healthare system to achieve healthcare for all?
>> No. I believe that corporate law and governance is more successful than we have been at our own governance. Right?
That you have shareholders, you have fiduciary duty by the company to manage to the shareholders. Okay? So, we're going to disperse all these dollars to help people who need Medicaid who are not going to pay taxes, right? We know that. Okay. The best company wins on that. But then we get equity in that company. That grows. It grows. There can be dispersements for it. We can our equity in that company create perverse incentives then the government would have interest in giving contracts and awarding more contracts to that company because we have a stake in it.
>> The government already does this through lobbyists. Politicians are bought and paid for by lobbyists based off the contracts they're >> want the United States to have a stake of ownership in these companies.
>> Yes. It will be a national trust fund.
One that then does >> you want to nationalize our healthcare industry.
>> No, that's not what I said at all. that you would you a trust fund that would have equity in publicly traded companies by default can't be nationalized.
>> No, but just growing equity in these healthcare they'd be like >> but so you're saying you want to just give money away that's a socialist perspective.
>> No no I think that we should have government less involved in healthare because I think they're the ones setting up perverse incentives and making health care costs more expensive by assuring these companies a lot of these contracts as I understand it. Well, I would say that's the entire employee based insurance system.
>> There is well, there is like a it's a narrow, but there is a right-wing argument for health insurance and and the primary one obviously there's like the national argument is like well healthy workforce means healthy military etc. But it's actually like if you get granular is if you provide I'm not arguing for this necessarily. I'm just presenting what the rightwing argument would be is that if you provide public health care the government now becomes directly incentivized in the health uh they're they're directly interested in the health of their citizens and that it increases. So, you know, there's all these Maha reports.
>> It's population health management.
>> What you're seeing with MAHA now would be kicked on, you know, it' be on steroids if the government now had stake in the health of the population. Again, I don't know for sure if I subscribe to that, but that would be in theory, you know, that's what people have presented as sort of the right-wing argument for for public healthare.
>> But to that, and maybe this might make you change your perspective, is so we have this totally sickly population, right? Look at our military-aged men, right? Okay. We pay the most per capita for each individual patient. That's um >> I forget the exact system.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And we know it's insane.
>> We pay more per person than countries with nationalized healthare singlepayer >> system. Exactly. Right. And and part of that's the overhead, but another part is just our entire food processes to go through that. And how did that happen?
Well, in the 90s, a guy I worked for, Blair Efron, who founded Centerview Partners, he did the merger between a very large tobacco company and then Nabiscoco was the largest leverage buyout at the time.
>> What they then did, and this was the plan, because they knew the government was going to come in and start suing all the tobacco companies. They took those scientists behind the most addictive thing at the time, cigarettes, and put them on processed food. And that's why we're all screwed up because then that becomes addicted. That started in the '90s. Now look at where we're at now.
People live in food deserts. All like the government's the problem with all of this because of how it's allocated capital, how it's enforced.
I think a lot of the the um a lot of the sentiment that in the video that we were watching earlier, it's um it's a sentiment that needs to be deal dealt with. I think there's a grain of truth in her complaint and it's that um there is an affordability crisis for many in that country and the resentment that that breeds helps proliferate figures like Zoron mom Donnie. Today's tax day and he actually just uh announced a tax a sir charge on homes valued above 5 million when there is no resident who lives primarily in New York City. This going to generate the city 500 million in revenue annually. Would you support something like that?
>> No, absolutely not. I I believe our entire tax system is broken. That essentially the lawyer class or cast as I call it is captured allowing then for corporations to screw around with tax codes more. We should move to a consumptionbased tax. The entire system of taxation is one that hurts the middle class. It's designed to hurt the middle class. But if we move to a consumptionbased taxation system, that's more fair. Like you have more money than me, you want to buy a Lamborghini, that's fine.
>> You have a lot more money than me.
You're a lawyer.
>> I No, I've >> part of the lawyer classes you're railing against.
>> I I was I was but I spent everything that I have to get here to be able to tell you this because this is a message that's just universal fairness. It's not left or right. It's one that we have to structurally change this country. One is consumption based tax because look, if I'm a rich guy and I have all this carried interest, I'm never going to pay the same tax that like my father who's a military psychologist would pay. That's not fair.
>> Sure. Not everybody starts in the same place. I saw also um on your pamphlet that you gave me your manifesto >> manifesto. You're not taking any corporate pack money.
>> Why is that? I don't know. Have you been offered any corporate pack money to reject?
>> I I have um not a significant amount, but >> how does that work though? Do they come to you and they're like, "We represent a pack and we want to spend money on you."
Or do they write a check?
>> They'll say, "We'll throw you a fundraiser."
>> And so what happens is you say, you know, I'm thinking about writing for office. Maybe you tweet about it, right?
First consultants come to me, they say, "Okay, you're young, you're charismatic, you're going to be able to raise a lot of money. We're going to take 15% of what you raise, put it in a bank account, you'll get that after the election."
>> I thought, "Oh, that's how the control first begins." I was thinking about running for Congress. Then we ran a poll because why does no one challenge this guy, Mark Warner? He said he was going to run for two terms. Now he's running for four. He's 71. He really hasn't done anything. All his donors are are corporations, the banking class, former bosses. So, I run against him, but then I realize no one runs against this guy because it's by design. So, they try to take you out and the Democratic party has so many ways of doing this, whether it's signature fraud, petition fraud, which makes me wonder where all these votes come from.
>> Well, let's let's talk about your story cuz you're a Democrat, but they kicked you out.
>> Yes.
>> Why?
>> They kicked me out. One, I disagreed with gerrymandering. And so, Senator Louise Lucas, the head of the Virginia State Senate, came out against me with that.
>> Wow. And then I was instructed by someone within the party to hire certain guy to help get signatures because you need 10,000 signatures to get on the ballot, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Well, the party is the one that vets the signatures. So, I start looking through these signatures. I see my own name on there.
>> Whoa.
>> Uh-huh. What?
>> Yeah. So, I develop a AI to do some handwriting analysis, send it to forensics guy. Majority of these are forged. It turns out petition signature getting fraud is a very common thing.
It's cottage industry. Yeah.
>> So they'll get the first two signatures on a page. Then they'll it's called table. The group will then >> pass it around and like >> Yeah. And then you can look at it and just see. So if I had turned those in and hadn't realized that they either could have destroyed me at that point or had control over me for my entire political career.
>> Wow. Cuz then they come back to you and they say, "Hey, guess what? You committed fraud. You work for us now or go to prison."
>> And that's what they do to everyone.
Which is why when Santos, who was just here and he said I was going to have a blast, so you know, and I am. But he said 500 out of 538 are compromised in the house. Like that's true.
>> Wow.
>> It's by design to represent the people.
You're compromised.
>> So they you you were uh what is it? Act blue. That's that's what happened. Like you were collecting donations and they just cut you off and you were a you were a Democrat.
>> Yeah, I was. And you have 14 days to file your paperwork to switch to an independent. They cut me off within an hour of dropping the video saying I was going to do that. Then the next platform, Numero, they dropped me too.
>> I'm trying to understand. You have to use win red. Would they let you use win red? I bet they would. That that this is crazy.
>> Why? He's literally a Democrat that got kicked out though.
>> Because the Republicans, this is what the Republicans do.
>> I consider myself America only. That my view >> Republicans No, no, no. Republicans would come out and you would get one of the members of Congress saying it is a disgrace that they removed him from the ability to fund raise for no justifiable reason.
This platform is supposed to be neutral fundraising. This should be illegal.
>> Well, let's talk about it in a larger picture, right? If this is all by design in a theoretical crazy world, right?
Well, every college campus that I'm scheduled at, that gets cancelled a day before I find out Mark Warner hires the head of the college dems to become an intern. He hired 500 AC across Virginia.
So, I can't speak to colleges. Then we have the signature stuff. And now we have the payment processors. It's a system by design. It's RICO.
>> This was during the primary, the Democrat primary. Okay. Okay. Whether was trying to squeeze you out because he's an incumbent obviously.
>> Exactly. And he's also the main fundraising arm for the DNC.
>> That makes a lot of sense. I I want to ask though, it's a bit curious because you said it's quite ambitious. Yes. Um you haven't served in public office prior to this as I understand. Why aren't you going for something lower level? This this race is a long shot. It makes me I'm I'm a little bit cynical.
It makes me question why you're even running. But I mean, what is the purpose of of running? And then why not run for something uh lower office a little bit some somewhere where you might be able to actually win?
>> Sure. First, I was going to run for Congress initially uh against Don Byer in the eighth district. He's 76. Sold my dad a lemon of a Volvo, so I have some anger against him. But >> you know, all these politicians, man, you're kind of >> I mean, I grew up in MLAN, Virginia.
What do you expect? You know, I was produced by the beast, which is why I hate it. And I look at it and the system is by design to pick these the worst amongst us to represent us, right?
Because only people who are willing to sacrifice their morals and values will run for office and they get compromised every >> So, what happened in that race? So you couldn't um primary him or >> No, no, no. I could have, but we ran a poll cuz I was just genuinely curious.
Why does no one challenge Mark Warner?
Why is he running for a fourth?
>> Because he's an incumbent and Democrats would rather go after competitive races to try to build their coalition. I mean, that's just the basic >> to me. It's Virginia, right? Like let the best ideas win. I believe that we should live in a society, >> which understands why these political groups would want to fund money not get for people to primary their incumbents.
they want to >> or it's that he has dementia and then what happens is after 3 6 12 months he steps down says he wants to spend more time with his family and then Spanberger gets to a point >> uh whoever let's say you know a woman named Dorothy McAuliff >> back door dealing yeah you're totally right that's what it is and I can't I don't want to live >> what do you hope to achieve though with this campaign you're a long shot to say the least >> the message the message is that things by design are screwed up this two-party system is what Washington warned us against right that it'll create artificial official division. Like all of us, we would identify with different parties right here at this table, but we're only given two options.
>> And I look at it as now is the right time for a new political party. One that puts America first, America only. And then we can deal with the rest of the world.
>> From being a Democrat to being America first and America only. Quite a few months ago, you were a Democrat.
>> Why not? Why not?
>> Quite the evolution.
>> Why don't Republican? Well, I very much disagree with the enforcement of ICE that I look at it as one that it there's a guy I know, his name is Victor Day Labor. He gets his ass beat, pulled over side of the road, speeding. I speed all the time, but he gets beat. They hurt him so much they name his hand. And I asked him, "Do you think they did that on purpose?" He said, "Yeah, he gets thrown in the Farmville detention facility for 60 days." Right? Like I look at this, okay, one thing, but let's look at the technology of how they got him. The surveillance state is what's slowly encroaching around us all. We have maybe two years left before we have seven tech oligarchs controlling us, right? So all that tech's being used by ICE right now and we're divided over illegal white, brown, whatever. When we're losing the bigger picture that this country, if it was founded on the premise of a rebellion against oligarchy, well, we're allowing oursel to consolidate into oligarchy. But the problem is like with the demographic trends the United States like any conservative politician is going to increasingly have a tougher pathway to victory. I mean that's kind of the whole impetus ICE like >> that's why I ran as a Democrat.
>> Well, yeah. I'm like I'm sure ICE like okay yeah there there there are these instances of brutality or whatever. Like I'm not dying that. And I'm like you know I'm a pretty staunch you know anti-immigration guy. Um, but as I see it, I mean, look, you it has to get done because for anyone that's concerned, even if you're if you're, you know, really concerned about a surveillance state and that sort of thing, with the current demographic trends, the United States, it's just going to be completely unfeasible for a candidate on that platform to even win.
>> Do you do you support ICE?
>> No.
>> Why not?
>> Surveillance state, the technology they're using, the flot cameras that feed into the Palunteer database, that that is going to come against us all soon.
>> Should illegal immigrants who've committed crimes in our country be deported?
>> Absolutely. I I've >> should have the the the I shouldn't have >> No, no. A lot. A lot. I take offense to your question.
>> Why? Cuz you're sensitive.
>> Should any illegal immigrant be deported?
>> Well, I wanted to get the gradations first. I wanted to make it >> I'm just like I get I'm just tired of that talking point where Trump said we're going to deport everybody and then Democrats came out and said Trump said he was only going to arrest criminals.
Like what? No. Everyone.
>> Your your position seems self-defeating.
If you want to deport illegal criminal aliens, you want to use any technology available to do so. And then just like the copout being like, "Oh, well, I don't want Palunteer to have our data."
That that's the most effective way to do it. If you actually want mass deportations, then you're going to have to use some data collection technologies. And I I don't understand.
>> But that's going to be used against all of us. That's the thing.
>> I mean, soon we'll have social credit.
>> I'm going to be deported soon. Is that what you're talking about?
>> Yeah. But but hold on. But like that this is not an immigration >> what you say.
>> The the issue of immigration is not emboldening the AI companies and the surveillance state. That's happening irrespective of the illegal immigration.
And so why not at least say we can solve the illegal immigration issue and then we'll deal with the other stuff after the fact.
>> Oh, I fully believe we can solve the illegal immigration issue. We should have closed borders. We should we should have the safest and most secure borders that there are. Why do we notigator like on the >> lasers all of this stuff, right? Like whatever. Come on. We're the United States of America.
>> The border shut. But we have tens of millions of illegals in our country right now >> and then you go after it through the employers first, right? Like you can offer an amount of money to have people self-epport and I fully believe most will self-epport because they don't have money.
>> Well, Trump did do that and I agree with that.
>> But how a lot of people did do it >> but how are we able to determine who's employing legal immigrants without scraping data? I mean it's going to be inevitable. Like there's no other way.
>> Uh random raids on businesses.
>> Well, I mean you could do that.
>> Kick the door in just grab the business.
I think but I think if if the two propositions are random doorto-d dooror raids of businesses irrespective of if there's any tips or whatever versus surveillance state I mean I think the surveillance is actually preferable than just like random door to door raids >> you support American hegemony palunteer is involved heavily in our military do you support their involvement in our military >> and their data collection that's what helps prop up >> well I mean we know that's going to be a massive issue in the future right like 10 years from now people will be talking about egregious violations of certain various codes that Palunteer did in warfare fighting activities.
>> I'm just trying to understand this is what helps us give us the military edge and you don't want us to use it.
>> So what gives us the military edge is not fighting, it's the threat of force.
We have entirely decimated our ship building industry.
>> As far as Palunteer is used in our military, they help us make they help make the military be more effective.
>> I mean, if they can detect a harpy from 100 miles away, like I'm all for that, right? If that data arised against us though eventually down the line the big bad government >> can seriously imagine imagine >> but do we have politicians talking about that? Like do we have anyone having an honest debate about this now?
>> I think it's good. I think it helps the military. I think it helps ICE. We have leftist basers base.
>> You're identifying real problems in the expansion of the technology surveillance state. We can't do anything about it. We are barreling head first towards a tech apocalypse, a dystopian nightmare. But it's it's going to happen. There's nothing we can do. Like there is there's no reality where a bunch of like a million Americans with torches shut down the data centers, shut down these tech companies. Literally never gonna happen.
It is integrated in our economy. Our adversaries use it against us. We use it against them. It is the nature of reality right now and will get worse.
>> But even even we shouldn't use it to deport illegal immigrants. You are terrible.
>> Well, because because irrespective of that I mean irrespective of that it's like okay without mass deportations cuz we're going to get we're not going to get the birthright citizenship ruling.
It's just not going to happen. So without mass deportations, we're not going to have a country in 10. It doesn't matter. Like it's kind of over the clock. We probably ran out of time 10 years ago as far as like immigration enforcement. So I'm kind of willing to break glass in case of emergency in this instance.
>> Yeah. I'm just kind of wondering why this is like your ground zero for that.
Cuz I look at we have two years till this is all over. Like this is not this.
He's he's right. I've been I've been talking about the AI stuff and people just don't get it. I it it it blows my mind when I bring up the AI stuff and people are like, "No, I don't think so."
I I had a conversation with Joe Robins a few years ago and he asked me what I thought about about AI and this video stuff and I poo pooed it and I said, "I'm not really worried about the deep fake stuff and the videos." Like I think people are smart and here we are today and I was like, boy was I wrong about that. It it is industries are going to get wiped out overnight. We talked about this a couple nights ago. the technology that the these companies have would end like administrative jobs, managerial jobs will be gone right now. The the easiest example without rehashing everything, it is harder to produce a Hollywood quality song than it is to manage an office with like 10 employees handling insurance accounts.
>> Yeah, >> the the management job is tedious. It doesn't require the greatest of minds to do something. And I think most people who do those jobs would agree that it's largely just about doing busy work. AI can already automate that and they've intentionally held those capabilities back because it would gut like a quarter of the economy overnight at least.
>> They released all of the tech the video and audio stuff because this doesn't have it won't gut a large portion of the economy. It will gut the Hollywood music and and Hollywood are in trouble. But that's not going to burn the US economy down the way the administrative work will two years from now. Just watch. It is going to be insane. In China and even in the United States, they have factories for distribution. Kind of like Amazon. I I don't know if Amazon's doing it. I think Amazon is. They're pitch black and there are no lights inside.
Have you seen these?
>> No.
>> They're big windowless blocks and inside little robots are going around moving boxes and bringing them to trucks for delivery. They don't need lights inside because the robots don't use visible spec visible spectrum to see where they're going. They use infrared. So, we don't need to waste electricity. These are just big black boxes. We are we are we are heading to this future. I don't even know if it's fair to say we have two years. What we are seeing in the media landscape. I you know what I'll say this maybe the alarm bells are ringing for me because I'm watching it happen in real time with YouTube and AI generated content.
>> Yeah.
>> I guess just my question is why is ICE the sticking point? Because I mean like I agree I mean I do agree that you know there is a potential you know risk involved with >> he's trying to attract moderate voters that are concerned about a Democrat until a month ago. That was the question I get asked, right? Like honestly, do I think that that's that important? No, not at all.
>> I think that's what the president ran on. He ran on mass deportations >> and that's holding you from running as a Republican is purely I mean, not purely, but like the number one thing is ICE is the first thing that you cited.
>> Well, that was the first thing I said, but more structurally, I think both parties are screwed. There's a fracturing on the right, but there's a left to be fractured. I want to break the entire Democratic establishment. I look at it if there were to be a movement, one America only, America first, what have you, right? because that branding is fractured from the right to take the infrastructure of the Libertarian party. Well, that party now can compete ballot access all 50 states.
Boom. That's something that will then siphon off votes from the >> How is being against ICE an America first in America only position?
>> It's the surveillance >> through the surveillance.
>> Yeah.
>> It just I mean I guess the government shouldn't have military.
>> Are you opposing the FBI doing the same thing? Well, I I think the FBI is one of and the CIA, the two worst organizations that we've ever had that have created significant >> Should we abolish all of it?
>> Well, I think it's time to start thinking about new systems of government, right? But specifically agencies like bureaucracy happens because over time things get entrenched, people make decisions and worse gets worse and worse. Like come on, look at the CIA. When have they ever been successful? Right? Bunch of guys from Princeton never been able to do anything. They recently they recently rescued I think it was at least two airmen in Iran thanks to the surveillance of the the CIA and probably Palanteer was heavily involved. I don't know. Was that crazy?
>> Why isn't the United States military doing that? Right. Why is why isn't the National Guard enforcing the border?
>> The CIA provided the information. We had Maduro's entire house mapped.
>> Yeah.
>> And they got him in how how quickly, right?
>> 45 minutes.
>> That's I'm saying these are good things that the CIA is doing.
>> I think the military should be doing this. I don't think we should have a CIA. is going to contract with Palanteer.
>> It's a distinction without a difference.
You just want the CIA under the Pentagon.
>> I I agree there's problems with the three-letter agencies. I'm just contesting like the surveillance state is the reason why there's issues with with the CIA, with the FBI. I mean, I think there's a more structural >> Oh, no. No. The CIA is I believe managerial. And when you when you talk about the CIA, well, that gets directly to Virginia politics that they're installing candidates in there.
>> Wasn't Spanberger a former CIA agent?
>> Yeah. You know, you voted for her.
>> It's just she was a colleague of my father's. And but you're railing against the CIA where and she used to be an agent.
>> Yeah, I'm a bit of a rebel.
>> Yeah, you're kind of all over the place.
I don't know if I'm >> I'm confused.
>> Yeah, I mean I guess again you were a Democrat a month ago, so you're going through Abigail Spanberger was a CIA officer serving as a case officer and operations officer as well as special agent. She was involved in the assassination of several world leaders in various South American countries where she personally slit the throat of >> That's her. I'm kidding. I made all that up. No, that he was getting too good. He was going to do both.
WAIT A MINUTE. Wait a damn minute. Yeah.
>> Could you imagine her like swinging into like the general Mo's bedroom on like a a rope like in decked out in gear? She pulls out a knife AND HE'S LIKE NO. AND THEN >> I WOULD HAVE BEEN I WOULD HAVE BEEN DOOR knocking pamphleting like get this.
>> Yeah. I guess I can't really tell she's watching right now and she goes I did.
>> Well, you're trying to frame what I believe in a left verse right narrative, right? Like I don't ascribe to that. I look at it as America to me is the most important thing that there is. Right? So that's the advancement of American interests and American people. I believe our interests are misspent outside of this sphere. That's why I made the comment about Mexico and Canada. I think we should focus a little bit closer to ourselves first. Let's solve those problems. Right? We won't need any immigrants. We won't need a manufacturing base if we were to develop or, you know, acquire Mexico, right?
Natural resources. Boom. country I don't want to acquire.
>> Yeah, that'd be that's like a demographic.
>> What's the point of the border if we just we move the border downtown? I guess I guess my question I I guess my question is like >> it's it's a tough position because like >> okay I I understand what you're saying you know it's not about right versus left you know it's about you know it's like the the anti- elite kind of framing but the problem is if you have a dispensation against immigration or illegal immigration in this instance like you want deportation of legal immigrants that's going to put you squarely on the right that's going to put a target on your back from the left.
So it's like for most people they never assign themselves on the right or assign themselves on the left. It's just that certain policies that you ascribe to are just going to firmly put you in that camp. So, I just I I don't think it's >> I I I don't know how productive it would be to try and like escape that paradigm because it's like you're already kind of penned in by default because of your policy.
>> I think we should make being Democrat illegal.
>> I agree.
>> They did for him.
>> Well, you know, like >> they did it before I could. And >> I'm kidding. But like the way you described it with it's rigged.
>> Yeah.
>> It's like all all of these politicians are are corrupt. Look at Swallwell.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, this guy is now accused of drugging and raping women.
>> Like wow. And the conspiracy theory is that those videos of him with these hookers were part of the recruitment process.
>> It is >> they they say if you like this is a conspiracy theory, but they say if you want to hold office, we're going to film you with hookers. That way you won't betray us. And then they use it against them when they want to dispose of them.
>> Mark, is that what they made you do?
>> I I I already did that.
>> No, he did that by choice.
>> I did that myself prior, right?
>> You were on the F boy show. What was the >> Fboy Island hosted by Nikki Glazer? No, like the systems of control are all around us, right? So now if someone an enterprising young mind wanted to look into Mark Warner and figure out how he had such a meteor meteoric rise in 1980 from Harvard Law to head of fundraising for the DNC and what was his used car dealership in Chesapeake, Virginia doing? How much money did he make? Who was he uh to use a term quote unquote laundering is what I've heard. Was he laundering money? Who was he laundering it for? Did that help his rise? And then did he just continue on in a legacy of Democratic politicians who become compromised? Even the Clintons >> What are you saying? He laundered money?
>> I'm not I'm asking the question. That's what people tell me.
>> That's what people tell you.
>> That he had a car dealership in Chesapeake, Virginia in the early 80s where he was making 600K laundering money for the mob because the mob was the main financer of the DNC, organized labor.
>> Interesting. This is the Democrat machine behind the scenes. I guess it would make sense why they'd want to keep him around.
>> Correct. and also why he wants to stay around. Why would a 71-year-old who has $250 million want to keep working?
>> Ego. That's why why does anybody want to be a politician? Why do you want to be a politician? People say they want to help the people, but in my experience covering campaigns of of all these different positions. It's all self arandizing at the end.
>> I mean, I I could be an investment banker right now and have a lot of money. I I >> go back to it. I mean, you're running a race >> because merging companies together is like a front delivery. It's just a natural decline of society, right?
>> Well, so so my prediction, Ilad, is that in the next couple of years, he will be the Democratic party. The Democratic party is going to be shattered. They're their apparatus is not going to make sense. People are going to be craving something moderate. It's going to be a prime opportunity for people like Joe Kent, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr.
>> to realign the Democratic party. So he's getting involved now at the ground level when the Democratic Party is in disarray and infighting over Hassan But the problem is you're always going to be ejected every day until Sunday. Again, if you just hold basic positions like I think illegal immigrants should be deported and mass, you know, and I'm not saying I don't know what your position is, but like if you're pro-life or if you're like skeptical of trans stuff, you're out. Like >> yes, but but the point is he is going to start building a following among moderate Democrats who don't like those things and be part of a realignment that may be coming. I don't know if it is, but may be coming in the next couple of years where more and more Democrats who are moderates and having conversations but disagree with us gain prominence. I mean it's a fourth turning theory right every 80 years a realignment >> well that's more about people killing each other and going to war >> but and also if the concern is >> no no the straw generational theory is dictating that in two years we will be in a full-scale war >> yeah we will >> I mean I think you get that right >> here we go look at the story okay from Reuters Pentagon approaches automakers automakers and manufacturers to boost weapon production uh World War II Trump cut off China in the straight of Hormuz and and uh you've got HGth saying or I'm sorry it wasn't it was Miller saying we can do this indefinitely we will we will choke out Iran but really he's saying China >> sooner or later China says we cannot wait any longer and moves get made >> the Pentagon going to automakers saying can you guys make weapons >> sounds a whole lot like more war is coming Trump talking about or the Trump admin preparing for an invasion of Cuba if Trump moves into Cuba do you think China moves into Taiwan >> no >> no chance >> I think we're defeating ing this access in detail by taking them them on individually and then down the line China just wouldn't have any allies if they did try to bog us down in war.
Russia's bogged down in Ukraine. We took Venezuela off the map.
>> I think Russia is on Trump's team.
>> The three biggest beneficiaries of the of the Iran war is Saudi Aramco, Exxon Mobile, and Gazprom.
>> Well, always has been corporations.
>> No, no, no. This is Russia, Gasprom, Saudi Arabia, Saudi Aramco, and Exon Mobile. The United States. These three countries are the principal energy producers. Venezuela was taken out of the picture. Trump sees that right now.
This war is a detriment to every other country. It looks like Trump went to the Saudis. He went to the Russians and he said, "We make all the energy. We should run the world." So Europe is screwed.
They're freaking out and pissed off.
You've got China freaking out and pissed off. Everybody outside of the major energy producers is freaking off.
Freaking out and pissed off.
>> Well, he's hurting China. That's That's the goal, right? Like again to the 5D chess point, like I agree with him on this, right?
>> But doesn't doesn't this present the the potential? China then says we're about to get crushed. We have to go to war.
>> We know that's coming. When you war game the Pacific theater there, there's a reason why they built up their navy.
That's what I was getting to to the point of it's it's peace through deterrence. And if we have the biggest baddest navy, arms, all of this, right?
like we're sending all this money to North of Grumman, but we're getting equity in it cuz we all want to benefit.
Well, let's do it. Okay, >> I'm on board with that tagline. As long as you keep saying peace through strength, I guess.
>> Well, then let me let me hit you with one, right? Why are we letting the Chinese invade our country, right? Let's look at Smithfield in Virginia, right?
That gets bought by a Chinese firm.
Okay, we have all of these Chinese who have land around military bases. Why has no one come out and said, "Come on, we're losing this domestically." They're in all of our academic institutions.
Come on. My dad told me anyone who went to Pein University is a spy. There's a kid on my learning team in business school at UVA. Peing University.
>> There's 300 some odd Chinese student visas that are currently active.
>> Cancel >> all of them >> and prosecute potentially depending. But look into everyone who's been given one.
Why are we doing that?
>> Should it be indiscriminate or should there be should this be evidence-based?
Should we just say hey this >> indiscriminate we are going to go to war with China so it should be indiscriminate that we have to treat things seriously rather than this kind of half poo poo way that we have done things like I don't want to offend anyone but it's like hey if that's our enemy if we're in this AI war with them right >> we need to take all precautions necessary we should not have any Chinese nationals studying in our academic institutions working in our government come on this is America >> I I agree actually completely that like okay I I think uh our domestic policy does need to be mobilized against like CCP elements inside the country. There's no question about that. I mean, the farmland thing, everything is just ridiculous. The the the the student visas, but I guess I contend that like it's an inevitable war against China cuz I'm like, if anything, I think that's actually um I think that's actually more and more unlikely as we continue to rack up sort of geopolitical winds because I I think the effect this is having on the Chinese is actually more of a demoralization. You can make the argument, okay, when they're back into a corner, then they strike. But actually, I I think they're just increasingly skeptical that an operation on Taiwan would even work. And I think China would rather just sort of play ball in this instance because look, they just watched their entire belt and road initiative. I mean, I'm still the war, you know, hasn't concluded. It's still, you know, unclear how this is going to resolve.
But, you know, it's fair to say that their belt and road initiative has been hampered by the Iran operation. So, they're just continuing to see geopolitical loss. Geopolitical loss, geopolitical loss. That to me is a reason why they would be kind of hesitant to actually make any moves right now. Like Russia made their move on Ukraine after the Afghanistan withdrawal. They said, "Oh, there's blood in the water. Let's mobilize."
Sure. This is not the time. If you're China, this is not the time to strike.
They have some domestic strife. They have a lot of domestic issues. They're kind of worried internally right now.
>> They're going to have more and more domestic issues, right? Like look at the real estate bubble that they have. So, they're not thinking of it the same way that you're describing that we think about them, right? If you're the ruling class in China, you may be thinking, "Okay, this is all going to get out of hand pretty soon once this real estate bubble bursts. We got to make some moves now." Right? And they may say, "Hey, the US, they're at a point there's going to be a new president soon. We can cause chaos. We'll be able to appease Trump however we want, but let's go cause chaos cuz that's what a war is.
>> What's your position on the Russia Ukraine war?
>> I think the Russia Ukraine war is the biggest money laundering scheme that has ever been put into existence when I drive around MLAN or Great Falls, Virginia, where I grew up. Why do I see more Ukraine flags than American flags in front of mansions?
Why do so many Virginia? You tell me you were born and raised in Virginia. Why do so many Virginiaians support Ukraine?
>> Because they're part of the complex, the military-industrial complex. It's it's a asset pillaging of our country of our money that we pay taxes for, right? This is why I keep going back to the equity point because if we're going to give a company money north of Grman 97%.
Okay, we need something. But otherwise, what's going to happen is then that money, the government contracts revenue, right? That >> I know I've been on this model.
However, the president did take a similar position when he came to Intel.
He took a I forget what the percent stake was.
>> Yeah. Because we did bail them out or something, but that's because this was they they saw it as a a form of national security issue.
>> Sure.
>> Um which was to domesticate the the chip industry. Um >> isn't having Northrup Grumman >> could make sense with the military indust.
That's the American way.
So that's obviously to say that you don't support sending additional weapons or money to Ukraine in their fight against >> No. And I want a full audit.
>> Okay. But what do you think I guess of the Russian invasion despite not believing that we should support the Ukrainians?
>> Well, Russia is a fascinating topic because it's one that I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm 34. So I'm 32.
>> Okay. So we grew up with Russia as this big vast enemy all the time. Like boomers are like we cannot let them in.
Have we had an open dialogue with him?
Why can't we just like see what they got going on >> because Putin's a conniving dictator who's a part of the KGB and like is responsible deaths of multiple >> father was head of the CIA >> and that's based though that's advancing American values. Working in the KGB is not advancing American values, right? We support American education different senior working in the CIA is a good thing being in the >> and seeing where we move forward, right?
Because the North You think Putin's an honest actor here?
>> What?
>> You think Putin's an honest actor?
>> No. Okay.
>> No, no, no. I didn't say that. But his daughter's doing an interesting DJ thing in Paris. So, >> that was kind of >> This guy knows everything. Yeah. I like that.
>> I don't know. Did you go? You look like you could pick her up.
>> Anyways, so the North Pole melts, right?
All of these shipping lanes open up, right? It makes sense for us to at least have a dialogue with Russia. I mean, we got to get Greenland, and I'm all for that. I'm manifest destiny >> till kingdom come. So, >> and we need >> What are we doing here? Negotiating with Denmark. Huh?
>> Yeah. Like, too small. TOO SMALL. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO about it? I don't care, >> guys. After Cuba. We take it after Cuba.
>> Yeah. Like, forget Iran. Come on. We're going. We're taking it by force. Like, there was some clip of like the their prime minister Green. He's like, "We're scared." Like, I don't care if you're scared. We need it.
>> I think we could make a deal in supporting Ukraine for more sovereignty over Greenland. I think that would really get the Europeans excited.
>> Yeah. Quid proquo.
>> Or or how about this?
>> We don't cut a deal. We take Denmark 2.
>> You know, I I don't want to ruffle too many feathers.
>> Seize the Lego production. OMIC. We need Ozepic for national security.
>> Norvon not Yeah, absolutely. Take equity in Nor.
>> Yeah.
>> And and and we would force the free town of Christristiania back into the governmental fold.
>> I agree. I think it's ridiculous. And also the the renaming of Nook. It was Gothab. So when we take we're restoring the Danish name. This ridiculous anti-colonial third world craps got the >> most niche I've ever heard.
>> Yeah. Amazing.
>> Well, we're in it. We're in it. You're asking put Shut up.
>> In all seriousness, Denmark is one of my favorite places.
>> Yeah, >> I've been there.
>> Well, we can take ice. I've been there for some reason. I've been to Denmark more than many other countries. Just somehow I just ended up there. Like >> your favorite place more than America.
This dude, this guy barely a patriot.
>> One of my favorite agent.
>> I also love uh uh he looks like an >> actually Korean.
>> Okay.
>> You all look the same.
>> Uh Madrid, it's true. I agree. Uh Madrid's great.
>> Madrid's great, >> dude. I went to Madrid.
>> I had the time of my life. You go to one of the toughest bars.
>> I walked up and I was like, "Unvevesa poor favore." He gives me his little tiny beer for€1 and I'm like, "What is this?" And then he shoves two gigantic plates of calamari just to the top.
Yeah.
>> And I was like, "Who's is this is you?"
And I was like I look at my friends and they were like, "That comes with the beer." And I was like, >> "What?"
>> Also, the interesting thing and Spain is an outlier in the west because it's actually the the rural areas that are heavily liberal and then Madrid is like a very right-wing weird is Malaga. I went there too. That was awesome. I had a pork. I had a bunch of pork. They got pigs down there. Barico pork is but uh but in Denmark there's like one of the best burger joints I ever went to and I got to figure out what the name is cuz it's just awesome.
>> Denmark also has like a really pragmatic immigration policy that like liberals seem to be okay with where they're basically just like if you don't assimilate you're gone and they actually have >> which is what ours should be.
>> But you won't like this. They scrape a lot of data to get it done.
>> Oh, okay. Let's profile all my views.
Look, you've never met someone more racist than a Mexican who came here legally. I thought you were about to say then I thought you were going to lean back and go, "Yeah, nobody's okay. See, look, no one >> I'm an honorary Hispanic. I I date a Latino." So, >> fair enough.
>> We're working on Hispanic.
>> Who's Who's assimilating who?
>> Now, that's a good question. That's a fair question.
>> Shapiro did talk about the browning of America, so it's not a problem.
>> Exactly.
>> But it sounds like they're browning our white people.
>> They're trying to recolonize, which I try to stand up to in my day-to-day life.
>> You want to annex Mexico?
>> I do.
>> That's I mean, manifest. We need something to be excited about. Come on.
Do we not? And I'm say this with total love of my heart for Mexicans. Do we really need more Mexicans in this country? I mean like it's getting a little crazy. It's getting a little I MEAN COME ON HERE.
>> OKAY. TAKE from Texas.
>> Take your pick. Mexicans or Somali.
>> Why? Whoa.
>> Can I kill myself?
>> Is that an option?
>> You can disavow. It's fine. You're running for Congress. You can disavow.
>> But no, but to your point, assim assimilation is key, right? like that. I I I have different views than you guys on immigration.
>> Sure.
>> But it's the assimilation is key. I'm Irish. You look at Irish like most successful group because they came, they did the jobs they had to do, then they got political power.
That should be the process.
>> Yeah. There's conversation about though the pernitious influence of these Irish Catholics on our media.
>> There always has been Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon. I mean, come I think Tucker Carlson, uh, Rachel Matto, >> Rachel Mad, Donald, I mean, it goes on and on and on.
>> Yeah. And then obviously Joe, was Joe Biden Irish? I think he was at least obnoxiously >> Catholic. Nancy Pelosi >> that's Italian.
>> Oh, she might be half >> at least Catholic.
>> Okay. I think I found it. It's called It's Burger.
>> I love I love it like three recipes every time. I've been there like I've been there like a dozen times and somehow it's like we always go like, "Oh, let's get a burger." And it's like it's the same place we go to and it's just so good. I I I gotta tell you, you know, rag on Denmark and we joke about conquering them, but I'm actually I do I would like to conquer them because I love that place.
>> I respect that.
>> I'm down for that.
>> Yeah. I I want to take what what what I enjoy. Like I like it, so I should own it.
>> You know, that's the American way. So Denmark, >> manifest destiny.
>> That's right.
>> If you like vacationing somewhere, just sees it as a >> Didn't we Didn't we occupy Denmark?
World War II.
>> No.
>> Am I too green?
>> Greenland. That's what it was.
>> Do you guys ever have um Have you guys ever heard of uh ketchup fried rice, I think it's called?
>> No. Korean.
>> Disgusting.
>> Is it hot dog fried rice? So when uh US troops were stationed in Thailand, they want to eat hot dogs, but they don't have bread. They only had rice. So they would make a bed of rice, push a hot dog into it, and put ketchup on it. That's what the Americans would do because they were like, "We don't got bread. We'll just make a bed of rice to eat a hot dog with." And so what they do is they take raisins, ketchup, and hot dogs. They mix it with the rice and fry it. And it's like a normal thing in Thailand like everybody eats.
>> That's interesting.
>> I mean, you fry anything, it's good.
>> Yeah, I agree. That's true.
>> That's patriotic.
>> That's how I know you're America only.
>> That's That's right. All right, everybody.
>> That's all I need to say.
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Well, willing to get a moderator on the rumble side. M h swans says what do y'all y'all think of Americans praising China and saying Chinese people are off better than us even when data shows 600 million Chinese make 162 bucks a month why are we seeing this praise propaganda there's a viral post from Jackson Hle where he's like communism is better this is proof and it's like a it's like a an image of the Chinese of Chinese cityscape with like LED light buildings everywhere >> yeah yeah yeah >> like bro I've seen Vegas you you will not impress me like have you have you not just looked at the sphere and the gigantic eyeball and all the weird stuff Vegas does. Come on.
>> Yeah.
>> The skyline of New York City in Vegas.
If anyone's gonna appropriate our culture, it's us. Okay.
>> That's right. The RGB nationalism is not going to fake me out.
>> It's almost it's it's this is the thing about, you know, we've got something else for the uncensored portion with Hassan. He said Soviet the collapse of the Soviet Union was a great catastrophe, the greatest catastrophe.
These people just lie. They are evil.
This is what communists do. They lie.
What they don't tell you about China is that you can't own land. You can only lease it from the government. What they don't tell you is that when the Olympics came to China, they stole the water from poor people to bring to the cities and let people die. That's the system you live under. Eminent domain. You think that's bad? When you live in China, they'll just kill you. They'll just take from you. You just duck and cover and hope you get to live peacefully. I'm not a big fan. I appreciate the United States. We at least have some regions of grievances.
>> You don't own land in China, right? You just have a 99 year lease.
>> Exactly.
Same old man says, "We conquer both Americas and make all them territories.
Give them no voting power, nor make them citizens of the of the USA, then use them for the US empire." Haha.
>> What would we do? I >> I will add to that. To be fair, in the United States, you don't own land either.
>> You pay property taxes on it.
>> And then when you die, the government takes it from you.
>> Correct. And oh, in the in the in the long run, someone who owns land, like let's say your your great great grandpappy, you know, staked a plot of land back when nobody lived there and he's got 10 acres. Eventually, the government came in and said, "You got to pay a tax on that land now." And he goes, "What do you mean? I don't do anything for money. I just farm here and feed my family." And say, "Too bad."
Well, then he says, "What do I do?" They say, "If you don't, we're going to take it from you."
>> Yeah.
>> So, he parcels off a small piece of his land and sells it to somebody to pay his taxes. And every year the land gets smaller and smaller and smaller until you don't own it anymore.
>> That's the American way.
>> I'd prefer that over the 99 years.
>> That that's fair too, but still not good.
>> And that has been the way, right?
Because we're managing into decline. If we look at this as a publicly traded corporation, we're going into bankruptcy.
>> That's a matter of fact. 39 trillion in debt, 30 trillion GDP, 1 trillion in interest rates, right?
the the interest on the debt is about to become the principal line item and it's going to unless uh Trump does something to debt holders like cut off their access to energy become desperate.
>> I got an idea for you.
>> Conquer them.
>> Well, if we were a publicly traded corporation, we could put ourselves into bankruptcy, a structural reorganization, right?
>> United States.
>> United States.
>> Yeah, but that's meaningless.
>> Well, but hold on. But just real quick on this, 72% of debt is held domestically, right? If people were to take a haircut, we cut 10 trillion, 15, whatever off, what it would do is create an artificial tariff. It would make it so we'd have to make things here. I believe that we should not import anything.
>> If we the debt held by the US domestically in the national debt is like invoices wouldn't be paid from the government, meaning these companies need that money to survive.
>> It would be a tough time. Our credit rating would go down.
>> Yeah. But the economy would implode >> and then the interest rates would >> general contractors go to business overnight. you you hund 100red million jobs evaporate not just because they're held by the government but because there's many private sector jobs relying on invoices from the government that in turn will be used to pay for food at a restaurant where the workers would go to you would just see this massive tsunami of jobs collapsing.
>> Yeah. But government guys, right? Like if the government has its hand in everything, isn't it time to then restructure how it works? Because what it would do, it would create chaos immediately, right?
>> And then our adversaries would invade, take us. Oh, well, if we had a strong enough military, no, because that's one thing that >> But are you going to pay them industry is what we have to build. All of this re-industrialization stuff. No, we need to make t-shirts here, hats, all over.
>> That's true. But the point is the domestic domestically domestically held that is granular. It's not one big company. It's >> tens of thousands of companies all waiting on tens of thousands of dollars.
Yes. And their employees need that money. The employees then go grocery shopping and the grocery stores need the money that comes from it. Yeah. This is the how the government's been artificially propping up economic expansion. Correct?
>> Because they just keep promising the debt. So, here's what people need to understand about the debt.
>> Basically, the way it works is >> I'm broke >> and I say to Tate, "Hey, work this month and I promise I will pay you."
>> I don't have any of the money.
>> I then need to figure out how to get the money. So, I go to the people who are living nearby and I force them to pay me so I can pay Tate.
>> Yeah, come on. I'm good for you. Yeah.
>> I say, "Tate, I need you to work here for this month." Damn, I need a lot, too. But my wife only told me that >> that we're allowed to to to contract up to 10K.
>> Yeah, >> I'm going to do it anyway. I go to my wife and she goes, "Okay, let's let's increase the debt limit." There is no money the US has. They are taking on contracts saying, "Don't worry, we will pay you." And then either they are, you know, Obama did the quantitative easing.
Oh, I'm sorry. He he did the stimulus, but we do quantitative easing just produce the money to try and deal with some of the debt.
>> Yeah.
>> Or we then say we need to figure out where this money is coming from after the fact and keep putting people off, paying interest.
>> It's going to implode. It's going to implode. And that's why Jefferson warned that banking institutions were more dangerous than standing armies. And the thing is, well, if it's going to implode, if we're being managed into bankruptcy, well, how do we manage it into bankruptcy? That's a conversation we should have that no one's willing to have.
>> Elfe Lopez says, "So Tim is just going to do the plot from the movie The Village by Might Shyamalan." Uh, yeah, kind of. My idea was that we would uh do the Blast from the Past with um Brennan Frasier.
>> Fraser.
>> Yeah. we go into an underground bunker where she will just we'll tell her it's the the year is 1990 and you know and then she'll emerge in the future you know oh wow look everything's changed you know >> not to uh dig up the last conversation can I take the most unpopular position in conservative media and defend property taxes >> no dude pragmatic there's a small government this actually property taxes Thomas Jefferson called it the most righteous tax in America it's a very like it's like one for oldest taxes.
>> He never envisioned the Fairfax County government.
>> So, Sar and Sar and Jetty actually laid this out quite well. He basically rebuted because right now the obviously the atmosphere is like property tax, etc. And I agree there's some like philosophical conundrums there. But when it comes to schools, police, local services, if you abolish property taxes, now the state or the federal government is now in control of those services. The administration of those services, the the the the state tax now is being levied on you to pay for those services.
So, when you take away property taxes, you actually lose a lot of local autonomy.
>> Now, we should go back to the fire emblem uh standard where you go to the fire department, you pay your monthly fee, and they give you an emblem to put on your house. And then if you have a fire, when they pull up, if they don't see the emblem, they leave.
>> The problem is like I agree like if we could like actually make that happen.
The problem is if we abolish property taxes, there's not going to be any like >> to your point though, that's assuming almost positive behavior, right? where let's look at Fairfax County or Lowden County where they know they have a wealthy homeownership population, right?
They're going to keep jacking that up.
But meanwhile, the public school system is going to keep spending money. They're going to overspend to the point they go into a deficit. So then they're going to say, "Oh, we need a casino. Who's going to propose that? The politicians who their campaigns are paid for by the casinos. All of it is designed into that because without personal responsibility, if the local government can't have it, no one can have it. It's designed like look at Fairfax County again Steve Dano 75% you'll like this of the murders illegal immigrants Fairfax County they get they get let off. No, but just the point you're saying not the murders obviously but the point like oh they're >> volunteer to use technology to deport them.
>> We don't even need it cuz the Fairfax County police will say hey Steve this guy who's been arrested 30 times if you let him out drop these charges he's going to kill someone. The problem is the problem though is that Fairfax Democrats permit that also because it's designed to make national government spread more.
>> Well, but that's the problem. Again, if you abolish property taxes, no one can fund county level police departments.
So, that's going to be Lowden County, Fairfax County are now in the driver's seat for dictating like they're going to have a state we're going to have state police. That's that's going to be the result of that schooling. Now, it's completely determined by again by the Virginia state government. Like it actually removes a lot of local autonomy. It gives a lot of red counties. It eliminates their recourse to at least combat, you know, a state government they disagree with. So, it would work in red states, but the problem in blue states, as you made this point, Virginia is flooded with red state red counties. They lose all their autonomy if you abolish property taxes.
Again, it's an unpopular, but it's like true objectively. Sagar and Jetty laid it out really well.
>> Let's uh grab some of these chats here.
We got Rusty Shackleford says, "Anyone who served knows military healthcare is trash. Military doctors suck and are immune from medical malpractice suits.
And Triricare is an evil soulless bureaucracy that does everything possible not to help you. You don't want government healthcare.
Agreed.
>> I had Triricare growing up. I I was born in the Naval Academy. My father was in the military. It wasn't good, but it was way better than having to pay money for healthcare. I'll say that.
>> Chad Hoff Chad Hoffman says Tim is right. There are no jobs Americans won't do. Mo also most farmwork pickers and al like make 20 bucks an hour plus here in California. I know a lot of second and third generations uh generation who who do go picking seasonally. Yeah. I had a friend who did uh grape harvesting or something for like 20 something bucks an hour 20 years ago. And I was like I was making 12 bucks an hour working some crappy job and I was like you're getting 20 bucks for picking fruit. I like damn >> dude. I'm old enough to remember when delivery drivers were like teenage men like >> Yeah. Yeah. like Domino's just hustle in chill dudes. Now it's you know what it is.
>> It's like an ice mug shot pizza. You're like what's going on?
>> No, no, no, no. Hold on. I got to tell you about this. We complained about it a while. You know, you know what pisses me off about this is when I order food on one of these apps and it'll say Sasha is coming and then it's >> it's like Pedro.
>> It's Pedro. And then I And then and so we started blocking them. We started telling them turn around and they get pissed off. We had one guy get really mad. We were like we can't accept the food from you. And he's like I'm I'm Sarah's husband. And we were like have a nice day. Goodbye.
>> Yeah. Did you see where uh one one account I don't remember which app it was named Emanuel in Manhattan made 11,000 deliveries in one year?
>> It's like insane.
>> But isn't that a larger byproduct?
>> Wow. So what is 30 plus a day?
>> It's corruption. What do you mean more than transitioning into a a >> Well, I know, but I'm like I'm wondering is that is that possible?
>> There are Sorry. Go on.
>> Oh, well transitioning into essentially a 1099 workforce, right?
I think illegal immigration is undercutting our labor force. That's what I was kind of implying. Illegal immigrants are doing a lot of jobs that used to be taken by people who were still entry level workforce type people.
>> If he worked every single day doing 30 deliveries per day, he'd make that amount, >> which I don't think make like no days off ever. And doing 30 deliveries a day.
I don't believe it.
>> Yeah. And they were pointing out that women were showing up when his name was Emanuel. So it was like a meme. It was I I was living in Manhattan.
>> The average is uh two to three deliveries per hour.
>> So most people will do uh about 10 to 15 deliveries per shift.
>> Mhm.
>> So >> I did it for a few months. It was pretty horrible.
>> And and and here's the secret. Here's the secret.
>> What these people don't realize is that they're losing money doing it. Y >> uh Uber, for instance, uh I'll call it ride shares. The cost on the vehicle is greater than what they actually end up making.
>> And people don't realize it. I hit a pothole and it wiped out a weeks of my earnings.
>> It's like there's just Yeah, there's there's no winning. Yeah.
>> I mean, there are guys in New York City who they rent a Honda Accord to do Uber.
$400 a week. You could purchase that for way cheaper than $1,600 a month.
>> I see a lot of bicyclists in New York, too, like riding the >> They have like a game. They have like a game they play with each other. Like they compete. There's like a Facebook board or something and they like post their best delivery time.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. It's hilarious.
>> I think a big part of the problem is that it's a race to the bottom. These guys will live, a ton of them, a dozen of them in a house. They will inflate real estate costs and then undercut the market because they're not trying to they're just trying to send remittances back home >> for better than Guatemala City.
>> The $100 uh a month or a week that they're able to conjure up and send back home is actually worth more than they can make over there. They're undercutting labor here and then shooting up costs because there'll be a dozen of them in one apartment.
>> I got to grab one more super chat before we go. We got a minute left, so I want to grab this one. Awesome. Lee says, "Tim, there's a big problem with game uh theory 18. It's not just oil that is exported through hormuz ura which is used for fertilizer and helium which is used for computer chips. Sure we can provide oil but can we provide the other stuff? That's their problem though. The US does produce fertilizer. We do get some from the straight but this is a problem for the east not the west. Trump may not be doing it intentionally but what is happening is the US is taking damage. China's taking substantially more. We are going to go to the uncensored portion of the show and we're going to make some jokes. Not so familyfriendly, but always funny. So, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know. It's going to be at rumble.comirirl.
Mark, do you want to shout anything out?
>> Follow me atitmarkan on Twitter, Instagram. My website is runwithmaran.com.
And I have a lot of ideas that uh break the traditional uh uni party mold. And anyone who is interested in helping out, reach out.
>> Yeah, absolutely. Mark, I thank you so much for coming on. And I think it was nice to have an insightful conversation to see where a lot of your ideas are at and I think you kind of represent a growing constituency in our country. Um I don't know if it'll be an electorally significant one though. Nonetheless, um thanks for tuning in everybody. I am Allad Elahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast. You can find me at Allad Eliu on all platforms.
There's a Pentagon press briefing tomorrow that I'll be covering as well that I'm really excited for. So be sure to check that out.
>> Yeah, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Real Tape Brown and come hang out tomorrow morning show. Well, it's a noon show. Noon live Eastern time on Rumble. You'll see it on the homepage. Don't miss it. Marks, thanks for hopping on. It was a blast. We get a lot of like pile drivers on the show.
So, it's like it's fun to have a guy that's like switching switching up the opinions and we'll go. It's fun.
>> Well, and to say one thing, too, like why this is so important is like what you guys are doing. This is the filtering of ideas in America. This is the most pure thing, which is why ultimately they're going to come for the podcasters, right? So, >> but what you guys are doing and I very much appreciate the opportunities allowing for ideas to percolate, see the best idea if it can win, right?
>> Yeah, Mark, thank you so much for coming on. Um, this has been really good conversation. There's like not even like a little bit of unspent time on the air.
But, uh, yeah, you can follow me at Carter Banks at uh, Carter Banks on, uh, X and Instagram, etc. So, uh, yeah, Tim, we'll see you all at rumble.comcastirirl right now. Thanks for hanging out.
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