This video provides expert immigration guidance on UK Certificate of Sponsorship (COS) procedures, explaining that applications can be submitted even a day before expiration, with Section 3C providing continued legal status during processing. The speaker emphasizes that no immigration application can be guaranteed 100% success, as Home Office decisions depend on application quality, disclosure of all information, and meeting specific requirements. Key advice includes seeking legal advice, avoiding common mistakes like failure to disclose material information, and understanding that COS codes vary in their dependent eligibility. The session also addresses practical scenarios such as marriage-based status changes, employment gaps, and the importance of maintaining continuous residence for ILR applications.
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Let's commit the program into God's hand. That Father, let us tap Let us Let it enrich our lives in the name of Jesus. Let this provide solution to some challenges that people have been Some questions Some hidden questions some people have been battling with How do I solve this issue?
That at the end of this conference, oh God, let people receive divine solution to their challenges in the name of Jesus. Let's pray that God Almighty will speak through the speaker of today, and the Lord will order the step of everyone into this house in the mighty name of Jesus. Thank you, Father. Honor be your holy name. In Jesus wonderful name we have prayed.
Almighty God, we want to thank you once again.
We appreciate you because you are a mighty God.
Thank you because today is another day that you have made that we should rejoice in you.
Thank you for the gathering of today.
Holy Spirit, we commit everything into your hands. As it is written in your word that without you we can do nothing.
Lord, please come and take absolute control in the name of Jesus. Let there be solution to challenges of immigration through exposition of your teaching today in the name of Jesus. Touch every souls today in the name of Jesus. And order the feet of our people here. And at the end, let your name be glorified.
We sanctify this environment with the blood of Jesus. For in Jesus mighty name we have prayed.
Let's all of you shout hallelujah.
Shall we all be on our feet to spend some moments to worship God?
Let's lift up our hands and bless him.
We just want to worship him and say, "Father, we exalt you.
We lift you up.
We adore you, king of kings. Lord, we exalt you because there is none like you.
We've searched through all the earth and in the heavens, there is none like you.
We worship you, Jesus.
Father, we exalt you.
We bow before you this afternoon, Lord.
Just to say thank you. Just to worship you.
We lay all our crowns before you in worship of you, most high God.
Lord, be exalted.
Be lifted up.
I be lifted up.
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For you are holy, righteous, [music] and worthy.
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We call his name Jesus.
We call his name Jesus.
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Oh, Jesus.
In Jesus' name, we have worshiped.
Hallelujah.
Hallelujah.
Somebody shout, Jesus.
If you are excited to be here this afternoon, shout Jesus.
Amen.
Uh, we're going to be praying right now.
Um, it's very, very important for us to know that when we are in the presence of God and we gather like this and we are in this kind of atmosphere, it's an opportunity for us to talk to God.
Uh, in 1 John chapter 5, the scripture says, "This is the assurance that we believers have that when we ask according to the will of God, he will do what?
He will answer our prayers.
Amen. I just want us to begin to thank God once again and say, "Father, you are good."
Father, you are good.
Father, you are good. You are faithful.
Uh, in all ways, you are faithful.
There is nothing that is impossible for you.
You are the God of yesterday, today, and forever. What you say you will do, that is what you will do.
Father, your word will never fall to the ground except it has accomplished what it has been sent for. You are a good God. Everything that you created was good. Lord, you created me and you said, "Lo, I was good." Are you thanking God this afternoon? Are you thanking God?
It's another opportunity because some people will say, "Ah, God has not done anything for me." The air you are breathing does not belong to you and you are even not paying for it. Father, we thank you. We give you glory. We give you glory, Lord.
And we honor you, Jesus.
We give [singing] you glory, Lord.
And we honor you. You are wonderful.
You are worthy, [music and singing] oh Lord.
You are wonderful.
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You are worthy, oh In Jesus' name we have prayed.
Once again, we are going to ask God, "Father, you have brought me here today.
Lord, may I not go empty-handed."
This program has been packaged for every one of us.
It might not be directly to us, but one way or the other there's somebody who is going to be affected by uh positively by what we are going to learn here today.
But there is something that we must all know that if we come into the presence of God and we are in the middle of a prayer session, the scripture says if we ask and we have doubts in our minds, the God will not answer our prayer.
God will not answer our prayer. We should not ask in doubts.
That man spoke Jesus spoke to that man. He said, "This your if you don't believe If you don't believe, God will not your answer will not be not be granted."
What did the man say? The man said, "Okay, if my belief is my problem, which I have accepted, Lord, help my unbelief.
Lord, help my unbelief." Are you going to open your mouth this afternoon and ask, "Oh God, help my unbelief today.
That which I will be asking from you today, oh God, that which I am I am expecting to get, oh God, from you, let every doubt in my life be pulled away in the mighty name of Jesus." Open your mouth and begin to pray. Father, let every doubt let every doubt this afternoon, oh God, be taken away. Let them disappear today in my life. I have been asking so many things, oh God.
FATHER, PERHAPS DOUBTS, ME DOUBTING WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT. How how it how you are going to make that prayer point to be answered.
Father, in the name of Jesus I we ask, oh God, that you remove every doubt from our minds, you remove every unbelief in the mighty name of Jesus. You remove every doubt in our hearts, oh God, in the name of Jesus. You remove every doubt. We are all seeking, oh God, your face. Father, remove every doubt. So many things around us tries to hinder us, oh God. Father, have mercy. Jesus, have mercy. Jesus, have mercy. In Jesus mighty name we have prayed.
In Jesus mighty name mighty name we have prayed.
I was looking into the story of Jacob and Esau.
You know, we are so we are so quick to say, "Oh, um Esau sold his birthright, right?"
But, there's something I've I was I don't know how my spirit just went there to say, "Sometimes, yes, this is a men's program, uh but, [music] the topic that will be dealt to today is not just about men."
So, Jacob sold I mean, Esau sold his birthright.
But, if we look at it, generally speaking, we discover that women tends [music] to be praying more than men these days because the men are always busy going to work.
And that thing just dropped in my mind that if the fathers in the home have delegated [music] the responsibility of praying Yes, more because women pray more.
And we decide to [music] go and step aside.
It's a Personally, I think is something that my spirit has woken up to. I don't just want to be saying Jacob sold his birthright.
Even me, as a husband in the home, have I not sold what was given to me as a responsibility even from the beginning that God created man?
Have I not sold some spiritual things?
Oh, left it over to to my wife alone to do.
Praise God.
At every point that Jesus made or decided to heal somebody or do a miracle, the scripture says he will do what? He will go into a solitary place, and he will he will seek the face of God.
The scripture says, "Where two or three are gathered in God's name, he is he's there."
We are here today.
If there is anything in your heart that you are believing God for concerning that which has brought us here today, why don't you just open your mouth and begin to say, "Father, have your way."
Jesus, have your way.
Jesus, have your way.
Jesus, have your way.
Concerning that situation, Jesus, have your way.
I don't know what situation you have found yourself in.
Jesus, have your way. Father, I've come before you today with with my petitions, oh God.
I've come boldly into your presence, oh God, believing that if I call upon your name, you will hear me. Father, these are my challenges. Lord, these are my challenges. Lord, these are my problems.
I bring them to you, oh God. Cast [music] your cares upon the Lord, for he cares. Father, I bring them before you this afternoon. Take absolute control, oh God, in the mighty name of Jesus.
Father, take absolute control. Show yourself, oh God, in our midst today in the name of Jesus. Let there be testimonies, oh God, even concerning the today's [music] program in the mighty name of Jesus. In Jesus' mighty name we have prayed.
In Jesus' mighty name we have prayed.
Please, I need you to hold somebody beside you. I need you to hold somebody beside you.
Make sure you're holding somebody beside you.
Make sure you're holding somebody because we're going to be praying >> [music] >> for next um 3 more minutes.
You're going to be praying for that person you are holding.
Father, whatever challenges that this my brother, this my sister is having, as we hold hands together, Lord, manifest your power.
Jesus, manifest your power. Manifest your power, oh God, in our midst this afternoon.
Manifest your power in our midst this afternoon. Manifest your power in our midst this afternoon. Re-kindle, oh God, that fire of prayer that when we ask, this is our assurance [music] that we'll ask, oh God, according to your will.
Lord, answer us today. Lord, answer us today. Lord, answer us today. Lord, answer us today. Jesus, answer us today.
Jesus, answer us today. Jesus, answer us today. Jesus, answer us today. You did request THAT WE SHOULD COME. HERE we are, oh Lord. Here we are, oh Lord. We have not come of our own. Father, we have come with an expectation. LORD, WE HAVE COME WITH EXPECTATION IN OUR HEARTS. OH GOD, HEAR US. FATHER, hear us. Father, hear us. Father, hear us.
FATHER, HEAR US. WE'VE COME TO YOUR PRESENCE THIS ALL TODAY. LORD, hear us.
LORD, HEAR US. FATHER, ANSWER OUR PRAYER. LORD, let there be overflowing grace upon our life. Concerning us, oh God, as we have come. Lord, your children, we have come, oh God. Hear us, oh God. Father, hear us, oh God. Hear us, oh God. Incline your EARS TO OUR PRAYERS TODAY. JESUS, HEAR OUR PRAYERS, OH GOD. Hear our prayers, oh God. In Jesus' mighty name, we have prayed.
In Jesus' mighty name, we have prayed.
Just as we spoke about that as you're still holding See how cold our hands Hold our hands. Father, just as we always call God every time that Lord, hear our prayer. I've also discovered that apart from doubts and unbelief, there is something that also hinders our prayers from being answered.
The Bible says, "Who shall ascend onto the hill of the Lord?" It is only those that have clean hands and a pure heart.
As we are holding hands I just Father have mercy on us.
We are men of unclean lips. Lord have mercy. Lord have mercy. Lord have mercy.
Lord have mercy. Lord have mercy. Lord have mercy. Lord have mercy. Lord have mercy. All we need is the mercy of God.
All we need is the mercy of GOD THAT OUR PRAYERS WILL BE ANSWERED TODAY by your mercy oh God. By your mercy. We don't We are not We We don't WE ARE NOT ENTITLED TO THAT GIFT. LORD, IT IS YOUR MERCY THAT SEE US THROUGH. It is your MERCY THAT SEE US THROUGH. IT IS YOUR MERCY that see us through. It is your mercy that see us through. It is your mercy that see us through. IT IS YOUR MERCY that see us through.
In Jesus' mighty name we have prayed.
In Jesus' mighty name we have prayed.
I know there are I know there are there are ladies and women here, but I just don't mind this um that I'm going to say, but I know that in Genesis chapter 1 verse 26 the Bible said God created man in his own image. Yes, this is a men's program, but then if you look at verse 27 he said he created them male and female.
Meaning that both the female and the male are both men. Hallelujah. We are going to ask God Father today's topic just as you blessed every you blessed man when you created them, let today's program be a blessing to us.
In the name of Jesus. Open your mouth and pray.
Father, let today's program be a blessing.
Lord, let today's program be a blessing.
Let testimony come out from today's program. Let today's program be a blessing.
Lord, SPEAK WORDS THAT WILL GIVE US THE right information to move through the speaker today in the name of Jesus.
Every other aspect of today's service, let it be a blessing.
In Jesus mighty name we have prayed. And so our heavenly father, we thank you this afternoon.
Thank you because you only others the steps of those that believes in you.
And Lord, it's not by mistake that we are here today.
We ask, oh God, according to your will, that this program would not only help us physically or to meet our own personal desires. We ask, oh God, that you will open our eyes to see that which we are going to get from today's program will also help to grow your kingdom in the mighty name of Jesus.
And therefore, Lord, we commit all um speakers and all officiating uh members today and every congregation that will be present here, that today, Lord, you will anoint our head with oil that our cup will run to overflow.
And there will be testimony to glorify your holy name and your name alone. For in Jesus mighty name we have prayed.
Amen. Put your hands together if you are happy to be here.
Come on, jump those hands together for Jesus.
Hallelujah.
Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus.
May we be pleased seated.
I want to appreciate everyone present. I want to appreciate uh the pastor. I want to appreciate uh Bro Philip. Thank you for your for leading the opening sections of the praise and worship. And thank you brother Omaregie for the prayer section.
So, you're [clears throat] all welcome to this uh Men of Hope conference.
Once again, we've got our guest minister, our guest in the house.
So, without wasting much time, I would introduce him.
And uh what we're going to do is he would provide uh maybe an overview, then we can then move into sections of prayer and I said prayer, question and answer, Q&A. So, if you have any questions, please, I would encourage us to put it down because he would take as much as possible questions to make it more engaging and interactive.
Well, our guest today is uh a renowned legal luminary and uh he's a legal expert, a a dual legal expert. By that, I mean he's been called to bar in Nigeria and also he's a member of the court of uh the UK and Wales, England and Wales jurisdiction. So, he has expertise both here and abroad. Hallelujah.
Uh he's got uh a lot of experience. He's uh uh in terms of academic uh qualifications, he's had uh dual uh LLB. He's He's had LLM and he has uh numerous legal certifications to his credit. It's someone who has been known to me for a very long time. As a matter of fact, when we were when we were in primary school in the primary school, we attended the same primary school together to be honest. So, we were classmates all through our primary schools. So, it's my honor So, professionally he had worked with different legal companies around the country.
And currently he is a one of the legal board of director in Malik solicitor which is located in somewhere in Chitambo.
So, The rest assured his expertise runs through commercial runs through immigrations and other aspects of law. Other aspects of law. So, he's here to give us insights and to be able to guide us in whatever information we would need today.
He's a person of no any other person He's barrister Rufus Ilaro.
You're welcome, sir.
You guys got >> I would like to say thank you everyone.
Thank you doctor.
I like he rightly said.
He was my classmate, primary school classmate.
He's a very brilliant young man.
I can remember when we were in school he always come first.
I must say to you.
He always come first. I don't know how he managed to do it. He always come first.
We were behind him.
I will run to him to say, "Ah, doctor, how do you normally do this?" He said, "Don't worry. Just read."
I'm not disappointed that he by now I he should have been a professor. But anyway, maybe it's by his choice he doesn't want to go into that life.
So I'd like to say thank you again. I'm happy to be here today.
Like he said, I would love to have your questions.
And well we would like that to be restricted to immigration if that's possible.
And for confidentiality we always want that to be if you have any probably private legal questions please don't disclose it here, please.
Don't hesitate to contact me. You can contact doctor.
So we discuss that.
Let the questions be general.
Remember we are um we are not only one here.
So the questions should be restricted to general question.
So if you have any personal one please reach out to me in private.
I hope that's fine.
Good.
Praise God.
So um on that note uh the floor is open. If you have a question you want us to start with you let's throw it out here. Let us chat.
Yeah, this is a general question.
I have I'm I'm on COS. I have 1 month left.
Going back is not an option.
What can you suggest?
You have 1 month left? Yes.
So, the last COS is on 5 years now. Is that correct? 1 year, for example.
1 year? Yes.
They renew it every year.
It's not for me. I'm just talking generally. Okay, people are in that boat.
>> it be general, please. Yeah, let it be general. That is a general thing. So, I got 1 month left and I'm struggling to renew. What are the options available?
Well, the options I think is available to you is obviously you come up with it when you want to run file of the Home Office there.
So, the options will be to make an application for extension of leave to the Home Office. Immediately.
Immediately before that month is out.
Pending the time you are able to secure probably is here somewhere else.
Alternatively, you can speak to your employer.
So, how soon can you How soon can you um apply? Like I said, 1 month. Is it too late?
No, it's not too late.
An application can be submitted even a day before. Oh, okay. A day before. So, you can still write it. Yes, let's do a little arithmetic now. Okay. For example, if the COS expires tomorrow Okay. the Home Office would have expected an application to be submitted probably 11:59.
Okay. 11:12 midnight.
Otherwise, I'm illegal.
Otherwise, you won't be covered under section 3C of immigration law.
So, while you're waiting, that means you cannot work.
Of course, you can work. Oh, when you The 1 1 month is expired Yes, once you have made an application, application is pending. Yes, you can carry out your work. Oh, I didn't know that. Open at the ear.
>> [snorts] >> So, that That's a very good question, sir. For example, once you made an application before it expires, you are covered under section 3C.
So, you can carry on seeing.
So, what does section section 3C say? It says is that it means that your previous legal status carries on until the determination of your any application you submitted.
Thank you, sir. So, if you don't need a response on that application, No, you don't need that.
You don't need an office to respond to that application. No, no, you don't need Once an application has been made, make sure such an application is an extension is made before such an application is expired. But, can they come back and now say refused?
All right.
Sorry, come again, sir. Can an office now come back and say the extension is not granted?
Well, that's a good question. Uh of course, an office can come back to say an extension is not granted.
You know, an office they have their exclusive jurisdiction to say, "No, we're refusing you on so so grounds."
Yeah? But, once that happens, what next do you do?
Make an application for administrative review.
Stating reasons why you why you want an office to grant your leave to remain.
Perhaps there are some cases whereby an office will will come back to say your appeal was submitted late, or you become an overstayer.
Provided your application is made before that time expires, yeah?
Print out the application form.
It will show on the application form the time and the date the application was made.
Then, you can proceed for your administrative review.
But, most importantly, consult legal advice for that, please.
So, assuming somebody forgot to even renew, and it and it starts to lapse, what are the options available?
Very unfortunate, sir.
>> [laughter] >> I'm sorry.
The thing is The thing is an Office did not want to see you.
You can't You can't declare asylum that period.
Well, that's another question again.
When you're talking about asylum, it's another type of immigration rule you're trying to bring to the notice of Home Office.
Okay? Asylum Asylum claim, we're going to discuss that if you If anyone of you have any question on that, but asylum is a different one.
Do you understand? Which can be discussed extensively if you have any question on that.
So, when you say you cannot apply for that to remain Yeah, but what is the next option for you if your application is on process?
Does the further leave to remain Is it uh Well, is it a guarantee that it can You can get it?
Or what do you need to do while you are waiting? Because sometimes they say it is being refused.
Well, even an immigration judge will never say to you any application you submit to the Home Office is guaranteed 100%. No lawyer If any lawyer say to you, "Don't worry, this application is 100%." Please run away from that lawyer.
Even Home Office caseworker will never come to say to you, "Your application is 100%."
So, what we normally do is well, we can't guarantee 100%, but we actually can guarantee 50 50%. Most cases we always say to you is 20%.
It's better we put it that way.
Do you understand? Just to prepare your mind.
Do you understand? So, we don't normally guarantee 100%. An immigration judge will never say to you "Your application is 100%." Unless until your asylum or probably immigration appeal is heard.
As we are being listening to you you are able to push up your case and immigration judge can decide on your claim on your evidence on the evidence before the immigration judge. So, it is not 100%, sir. Nobody can guarantee 100%.
Is that clear? Sorry, before you go Before I come back to it. Is that clear?
Yeah, yeah. I know you don't want to hear that.
But it is not Nothing is 100%. It's only almighty God that can guarantee 100%.
Um I just want to ask her from your experience, what are the common mistakes people make during application, you know, that makes um most of their applications rejected?
Good question again. Well, if you read through again to Home Office website, what Home Office usually advise people is ensure that your applicant and make sure you contact or seek legal advice.
Okay?
Now, Home Office is not stupid when they make that comment.
Now, there are a lot of mistakes.
Even a professor can make mistake when you make an application. I'm not saying the truth. Even we lawyers sometimes we make mistake.
Do you understand? There are a lot of common mistakes. Sometimes there are some mistakes can never never be ignored by the Home Office. For example, failure to disclose.
Okay?
If you fail to disclose some material information, material facts, then what what what message are you passing on onto the Home Office?
You are practically telling Home Office you have something to hide.
Okay?
So, there are some mistakes which can probably be overlooked.
For example, I don't No, don't make mistake. Let me put it there. Let me put it that way.
Don't make any mistake when you're making an application because the thing is Home Office decide on your application based on your application form.
They don't want to see your face.
Do you understand? So, what they want the application is submitted to the Home Office will be printed or will be opened by the case worker. They read through your application form.
Your application is like something we call in law the facts speak for itself.
The application form before the Home Office determines who you are, speaks volume of who you are.
Do you understand? Any mistake you make, for example, if you travel out of the country, they will say to you, "How many times have you visited or have you traveled to to your own country?"
You decided to wave it. Wave it or ignore that question. Mhm. Common mistake to you.
Now, Home Office will say to you, "That means you have something to to I mean, you have something to hide."
Okay?
So, they will not overlook that.
So, that is why it's always important to say, "Seek legal advice, please. Don't make mistake." We always advise you.
But, let's come back to lawyers now.
When lawyer make mistake in some cases, well, it is the responsibility now shifted on the lawyer to go back to the Home Office to say, "Well, this mistake was made by myself."
The Home Office will understand that.
Do you understand? You know, that's a very very different case now.
Does that make sense to you, sir?
Back to the extension, again, sir. If it's approved, how is it open-ended or how long does it usually last for?
Well, it depends on the application you make.
It it depends on the type of immigration rule, okay? Or the type of immigration route you're coming to the country for. If you make an application and the application is granted, yeah?
Of course, the Home Office will state when your leave to remain expires.
It will be stated.
Okay? That's Home Office for you. They It must be expressly stated that your leave to remain expires May 25th, 2027.
Once you have that date, please record it in your diary.
Don't make mistake.
That will guide you.
Absolutely.
>> Okay, yes. Um general question again, sir. I have 6 months left on my pass on my COS. And I see a woman that is British and I marry her.
Does my status change?
Or is it the same? Okay. What do you need to do next?
So, you're moving from COS. You're moving from one immigration rule to another.
Good question.
Now, it depends on your status now.
Take for instance, if you're coming to the country on a COS, the first question I need to ask you are you Were you married when you came into the country?
Question one.
If you're married, for example, some people come into the country with what they call excess baggage.
You understand what I'm talking about?
Now, if you come to the country, you're not married, that means that you are free to marry. Now, you know, the question is you are married to a British national.
Is that correct?
The next question will be when can I make application?
So, the next step you make, seek a legal advice. Even if you if you are very smart enough, you can do the application yourself.
Go through the uh spouse [snorts] route.
But, remember, you need to check yourself very well.
When you came into the country on that the COS sponsorship, did you Were you Did you declare you're married?
Okay, be careful. If you are single when you're coming, it's a That's a very different case.
And again, the question is you are married to a British. Fair enough.
So, the moment you're married, that's the moment you're married to a British national, then you need to check again.
Do you meet certain requirements?
What are the requirements again you need to ask yourself?
Are you Is your British spouse or you earning up to 29,000 pounds.
Eligibility That's financial requirement which you need to check if you meet that. We move to the next one.
Um have you been living together?
The next question you ask yourself is this marriage sham marriage or genuine marriage?
Do you understand? Home Office wants to know.
Do you understand? So, the question is whether you can marry or you can change your status.
Remember you're on a COS route.
You're not married. You're not You're not married where you are coming. No excess baggage. Fair enough. But, you're not here. You're not You got married to a British national. Now, the question again is is that British national not married before at the time you got married?
If he's single If that person is single, that's fair enough.
Once you're married, you got your marriage certificate.
Then, it means you're changing from uh what's it called? COS route to spouse route. Then, there are requirements which you need to meet.
You're married. You meet certain requirements. That's number one.
Number two, look at the financial threshold.
There are some cases whereby you might not meet the threshold, but Home Office can exercise their discretion to say if you meet the um financial threshold, it means you apply under the 5-year route.
If you don't meet that financial threshold, Home Office can decide to say, "Okay, we're considering your application under 10-year route."
At least you have something.
Then again, you've moved away from wallet through to one.
Okay.
Good. Yeah, the chance we will take this brother first. Talk to you.
Um mine is a true life story. Um or if a colleague of mine on the extension A colleague of mine he actually got married last when Thursday.
So, we attended the wedding at um Chesterfield.
He's on graduate visa. The graduate visa is expiring next month. So, the lady got like next month.
The lady got married to he's on COS.
So, having done the whole thing, we all left we all came back to Birmingham.
Work in Birmingham.
So, while in resume on Monday, he now came to me that the wife advised him to do extension.
Which I was like um since she's on COS, I don't know what which of the code the COS she is on.
But since she's on COS, she can um put you the the the the the the conversation you guys had earlier was you're going to move to the lady's COS.
I mean, after I marriage go back to work on Monday, the guy approached me. He was saying the lady advised him to do extension. I said, "Fine, if you're doing extension, no problem. But now, the problem Yeah, now the lady now said she has to move he has to move to Chesterfield. Which means he's going to leave this job and move to Chesterfield now on extension. I know if um because I have colleague who are on extension, they still continue to work with the organization which I work with. But now, if you have an extension, can you use an extension to look for job elsewhere?
Because now, there are a lot of people out there who have um genuine um papers and they are still looking for job. When applying for job, they will tell you what graduate are you or what visa are you on.
Now, you being on extension, I don't think there's any provision for that.
But one to me, I feel it's going to be very difficult for you to get a job with extension elsewhere. Why not continue on this job pending when you move to the lady's COS. I mean, so So, sorry. If I can get the question again, so Mr. A is on COS. To cut the short to the long story short, can you on extension look get another job with an extension?
It's a bit complicated, to be honest.
I think the answer to that is no because I currently have someone who is on extension and who have not been able to secure a job.
I don't know if home office uh per se is a rule in home office that they cannot give it to you, but I think what they the employers are are are looking is just like a way of Yeah, they look at you extension just 6 months, you are not stable. How long can you work with us? I think it's just that's the area they are looking into.
Even if you are currently working and you are on extension, you can continue to work where you are working.
Yes.
But some agency will even say, "Mhm."
"Go and get us a real uh visa." You know, the the question you asked now My name is in since you're a expert on this field, what are you advising him? Is it to stay on the job >> [laughter] >> You know, the because the person is actually is a very stubborn person, to be honest, because I always I told him is maybe you you are facing you you won't look They come with Allah Muhammad be. You don't think we just say maybe you won't go.
Because he's a stubborn person.
>> ask Let me Let me Let me answer your question now, sir.
Now, listen carefully.
Right, you're on COS extension.
Right?
You got married to someone He's not even on COS yet. He's on graduate visa.
Graduate route. He's expiring next month. Okay, the graduate visa expires next month. He's still on the job. Okay.
You are on the same job. Mhm. But his can't visa is going to expire next month. Yeah. But he got married to this lady and the lady is advising him to move to Chesterfield. Okay.
After if he has moved to Chesterfield, they will now do extension. Okay. So, with that S O S Yes. Why can't she I don't know. She don't need to move.
My own advice, sorry.
My own advice rather than him moving to rather than >> He move to Chesterfield, he should stay put.
>> He should stay in Birmingham. Yeah. Then he can change his address to the lady's address in Chesterfield just to prove that they live together. That's my own stuff. That's what I'm going to He's not even he's not even thinking about him making an application. I I mean I work in Birmingham Yeah. and my wife stays there in Manchester.
Every year of my documents is Manchester.
With due respect, it would be stupid of him to move to Chesterfield Because um Sorry.
1 minute. 1 minute, please.
1 minute, please. 1 minute, please.
1 minute.
This is it. Yeah. Let's do it this way.
Some information are not meant to be disclosed. Yeah.
Remember.
Remember.
Right. Okay. Now.
Mr. A is on a graduate visa which expires next month.
He has got a job, good job, yeah, in Manchester. Let's put it this way.
Now, he got married to someone who live in Coventry or somewhere else.
And this person has got a C O S.
Is that correct? Yes. Okay.
The next question is what is the advice for this gentleman?
What is the advice? What What do we advise him to do?
That's the question. Let's put it that way.
Now.
Two things now.
The first one is are you talking about immigration advice or employment advice?
Um So, let's come back. We'll deal with you two. For me, I would um I would say immigration advice because I have given him my own given him my own advice now.
What I told him was I don't think he should because the the what what he's saying is quote and unquote, he can't afford to pay rent in two places.
That was the reason why he wants to move to Chesterfield.
But for me, I told him if he was moving Chesterfield, why not switch to the lady's series first?
Then you can now move and look for a job.
Whatever advice you have on You know, the advice you gave to this gentleman, like I said, is divided into two, immigration and employment one.
Now, if we are to talk about immigration side, you don't you don't even need to advise him.
Somebody whose graduate route visa expires next month.
We all know that as a graduate or as a graduate with a graduate visa, obviously you can't you can't extend your visa.
That's a fact.
Yeah? So, now you're now married to someone who is on COS.
The question is is that marriage genuine? Did you marry this person on the basis of you want to get yourself sorted?
Okay?
Now, if genuinely you marry this person yeah, as a wife, husband and wife, the question is why do you have to stay in Manchester? Go go and move with this person or the person come and move with you. But we understand that if somebody with with COS, obviously cannot move away from where she is because the that's where the employers stay, reside. So, she's expected to leave them.
So, the next thing for this gentleman is to move back to his wife now.
Okay? When you move to your wife and your visa is about to expire, then make application and say as a dependent to this person on the COS. That's what he's saying.
He's saying the lady advised him to do the extension.
Extension for extension Sorry. Extension What kind of extension are you talking about? I mean, I I don't know. I'm not in that I don't >> The only immigration rule you can't extend your graduate visa route. That's the truth.
On what basis is he making application for further leave to remain?
All right. Thank you very much. Well, sorry. Sorry, doctor, before we go.
[clears throat] That's an area That's a very complicated area. Tell him to take legal advice. Does that make sense?
Does that make sense?
All right.
So, um we have some hands up. Madam Justice, do you still want to ask your question?
Okay.
Okay. Okay. Okay, let's take your question.
I want to ask that why is it that immigration advisor don't advise universities on immigration?
Sorry, come again. What's the question?
Why Why don't immigration, like, advisor like, why don't they advise universities on immigrate like about immigration?
Thank you, madam.
Well, I will say to you all universities in the United Kingdom, they have their own legal team.
Okay? If you check properly, some of the um sponsorship visa um visas, yeah, are being handled by their legal team. They do. They have their legal team.
Do you understand? They have their legal team.
Yeah, what I'm trying to get is um not about getting, like, sponsorship from the uni. I'm just asking about, like, based on school fees and stuff. Like, why is it that they don't advise because if it's that they advise them like they get advice from immigration stuff, most of all these universities won't won't go bankrupt.
Yeah, because universities, actually, they have um they have uh a power, like a mandate to put students like home fees as long as you used three or more years in the UK. It's not compulsory you have ILR or like permanent citizen.
But they don't do that. So and most of them Most of them and if most of them can't do that, they're going to like they won't go bankrupt. So I actually have no idea like why is it that they don't realize this early on. Right. Okay, if you remember even I'm going to take I'm going to go back to Nigeria now. For example, in Nigeria all universities are being governed by governing council Nigeria governing council.
Okay? The same thing applies there.
I can't university can't appoint me to be their legal adviser on what to do or what not to do. And all universities all schools are being governed by the UK rules governing They have their own separate governing council which lawyers we don't we cannot interfere on it.
Do you understand? So the only time the lawyer can come in to advise the school university is where maybe on rare cases anyway because universities are well and you of course you know who they are now. Yeah? But there's some cases whereby where we get to some certain issue lawyers advise them. Do you understand?
But not in terms of immigration, no. All universities they have their own separate and own their own permanent interest of who and who students should they sponsor and how much should they pay. Do you understand? How much do they charge each student?
Do you understand? So for example now, University of Salford can decide to charge £13,000 but MMU can decide to charge £15,000.
They have their own right to do whatever they want.
Do you Does that make sense now? Lawyers do not have exclusive right to guide them or to control them.
They're being governed by the UK rules. They They own their They have their own legislative their own rules governing council will guide your their conduct.
Have I answered your question? All right.
Uh I hope you are not planning to set up a university.
>> [laughter] >> All right, we'll take one question from Pastor.
Thank you very much, sir. God bless you.
God bless you, sir. A quick question in terms of so those who come to visit and maybe looking at they didn't plan to stay, they wanted to go back. But having come here, they enjoy the ambience and all that.
What advice would you give them for a visitor who wants to stay?
Thank you, Pastor. Um Yes.
If you read carefully on the visitor visa rules, in the application form, when you completed the application form, you it's you com- you stated it was signed by you that you are only coming for 6 months, coming for 2 months or 3 months. After the visit, after you have enjoyed the London Bridge, you've seen everywhere, you're going to go back.
That's it. That's the contract. That's That's what you have signed.
Do you understand? So, peradventure when you came here, you now discovered that, oh, your circumstances have changed. Is that correct?
Bring that to the attention of home office.
Does that make sense?
There are some cases whereby I'm not saying to you there are there are some cases whereby you are well, good, nice, you're doing well back in your home country.
You decided to come to pay a visit.
Along the line, when you arrived, something happened to you.
Something happened to you.
Right?
What is that?
We can't say it specifically.
It's not the case of whether you enjoyed the atmosphere. It could be a case of whether your Your is at risk.
When you go back, bring that to the attention of Home Office. That's what you're talking about.
God bless you.
Have I answered your question, sir?
All right. Okay. Do we take Okay, we'll take bro Sam then So, in a situation whereby, let's say it's an old person for instance, and he has no one to look after him. And you probably bring him on a visit.
Can the person if how do you bring that to the attention of the Home Office? Are you going to say to the Home Office, "Oh, this person doesn't have anyone to look after him." So, based on that, they should give the person a compassionate.
Because I don't believe everything has to be asylum. If the person has family as a family here that can actually look after the person, would that be tenable with the Home Office?
Thank you, sir.
Now, Mr. A is British national and bringing his mother, age mother who's happened to be 70 years or whatever, coming on a visit on a visitor visa.
And the mom arrived here.
Circumstances change. Not all cases you bring to the you go to make asylum claim. That's a fact. There's something they call adult dependent relative.
Make application.
You made mention of something that you have What if you have no go you have no no one to look after this age parent?
Yes. That's correct? Okay.
Make application under adult dependent parent. I mean, um Yeah, adult dependent relative.
Okay?
Then give reasons why the application should be considered.
Home Office will consider that. There are a lot of applications which have been considered. Alternatively, you can say that that parent should go back, make application from abroad. Call that entry clearance application.
Yeah? Where you provide as much information as it is required. For example, medical record, medical report, all sorts of that. But in the case the person is here, okay?
And he he [snorts] or she does not want to go back. And you're not happy, you're not comfortable for him or her to go back because there's no one to look after the person. Make application under adult adult dependent relative.
Is that clear, sir? All right. Thank you very much.
We'll take other chance, then you and okay, you've got Uh Okay. Uh before I make my question Call me. Call me as they are talking.
Before I ask my question, one thing I know about the UK, if you say A in the morning, you can change it to B in the afternoon.
That I know. But you have to tell them why you are changing it to B.
That's that's end there. So, my question is we don't vote as Africans when it comes to election. People don't vote. Meanwhile, they expect a change on the TV when they announce.
Like this guy is coming, Farage.
How does he impact COS? Because he's saying, "Oh, it 800,000 I I I L R is they're going to cancel it."
So, how do What right do COS people have if he comes in and say, "No more COS."
which he can. How does it impact them and what can they do?
Okay, sir.
Now, each time or every time we have change in government, you always see everybody coming with their own agenda, policy, and the rest. Okay?
There's one thing I love in this country.
There's one thing I love.
You know the judges? We sit down, keeping quiet, observing.
Lawyers, we sit down, observing, reading in law, observing, and reading through the your agenda, your policies and the rest.
How can somebody say that you going to when you come in power you going to cancel the COS? Yes, you have the right to cancel the COS. But the question is, are you canceling the COS for people coming after you have become the Prime Minister or to those who are already in the system retrospectively?
What you talking about?
Huh?
I said to you I love this country.
Human rights.
Very, very important.
Okay?
Don't worry, let him come into power.
Whatever you want to do, we have immigration judges up there.
They will interpret the law. Don't worry about that. Even the lawyers will deal with that.
Remember that even the English people, the parliament, all these people, they are not stupid.
Okay, they know what they are doing.
They are not stupid. I love them so much. I'm I'm saying I must say this to you.
Let everybody come, talk. Just say whatever you want to say.
What if you No fight.
We are talking about the law.
They will address him strictly on the point of law.
Farage is coming with only friends agenda, canceling ILR. We know what ILR is all about. Indefinite leave to remain. Other part of the country we call it permanent resident, isn't it?
Before you become a citizen of the country, you must first secure your permanent residence. Is that correct?
So, how can somebody say you go you want to remove permanent residence first before you become citizen?
So, that is his own policy. Let's wait and see what will happen.
Does that make sense?
Um my question is someone on a 5-year route to indefinite leave and I've got 1 year of employment gap.
Does this still count?
So, what do you mean by employment gap?
Gap, like you Oh, employment gap. Oh, okay.
>> gap, yeah.
Does it still count to your 5 years to So, if you say employment gap Like So, for example, you are on a sponsorship Yeah. work visa. Yeah. So, you having You didn't work for a year.
>> gap. You didn't work for a year.
Okay. Yeah. Good. Good question. For example, are you in the country? Yeah.
What are you doing What are you doing in the country?
Um the thing is um you have an employer that promised you employment and you came in and you find out there was no job. Okay. And you got another employer. You switched. So, that was that year, that 1 year you spent not working, does it still count? Or maybe you did um a secondary job, like just 20 hours job.
Does that 1 year still count to your But, don't forget that every job you do Yeah.
goes to HMRC.
But, it's a 20 hours a week.
Does it still count?
After you're working, you're still working.
So, when you're making application, make sure you disclose all this information in your application form.
When you're submitting your indefinite leave to remain, disclose.
Explain to the Home Office you work for 4 years, 1 year you were unable to work with social employer that brought you in, you are working with another employer. Explain this to the Home Office. They will They will exercise their discretion whether to grant you indefinite leave to remain or not. If they need further investigation on that, they will carry it. But, don't hold back any information without disclosing, please. Thank you.
All right, thank you very much. Uh We are still taking some question more.
So, Uh okay. I think you are first.
My own question is two. And uh so, based on the question he asked earlier, if you can bring an elderly person in uh the applicant, does he have to be a British citizen? Or Okay, is only a British citizen that can do that or someone on COS can also do that.
We don't know what is obtainable.
That's one. So, the second question >> Sorry, before you go to the next second question.
Remember remember one thing.
Only if you're on a COS, what status do you have?
You're only restricted, you are still subjected to immigration.
That is the application.
Okay, let's move to the next question, sir.
Yeah.
Sorry, ILR. Of course, yes. If you have ILR, you have indefinite leave to remain or you have refugee status, humanitarian protection. You're good to go. Okay. Uh the second question couples the husband is on graduate visa the wife is on COS but the COS she's on does not accept dependents.
So, what can the husband do in that case? And he has about 2 months left to go.
Very complicated one. Yeah. Very very complicated one.
So, I'm pretty sure you're talking about the COS code that end with 3 5 1 3 5 or 1 3 6 or something like that.
6 1 Correct. Yeah.
Yeah, very complicated. Tell him to seek legal advice.
Very complicated one.
Very very complicated one.
Sir, so on on this case, I have a friend with the boyfriend with the boyfriend, they are not married.
The boy was on on this this same I don't know which of the code of the COS.
But it can't carry the dependent. But they put in an application and they granted the lady.
Just last month.
Sir, that what you said.
Yes.
Home Office.
They can do it.
It can be granted. They can decide to come back to say, "No, we're not granting you."
Okay?
Home Office speaks.
Who is? Who is waiting to talk? We can't say anything. We can't question them.
See, the question is if granted is granted by the Home Office. Is that correct? Yeah. Did you grant Did you grant your leave to remain in your city room?
No, you made an application to the Home Office and it was granted. Fair enough.
So, what what I usually talk say to people, I think um it depends on the case worker.
Like in my case, um this is personal to me as well.
I've done about three applications in this country. And those three Every of those applications don't use more than three days.
The last one I did just took two weeks.
The same application I did for two weeks. Some persons are still still being on the same application for eight months.
So, so I used to tell them, I think it's the case worker. You know, the case worker who handle your case sometimes could like like your area. It could be grace.
That maybe there's grace of God in these things, too. So, so sometimes I just feel um your document could be perfect.
And before I came into this country I was >> is it You know the thing is, let me just let me just summarize what you have said. You know, >> Sorry, I think Pastor has a contribution. Okay. All right.
Praise the Lord.
I think it's not as easy as you you have stated it because you did not see the application form.
They only told you what So, home office would like our speaker said your application form you don't know the It might not be as straightforward as yours.
Yes, you apply for the same visa.
But the information in there is very detailed. Now, let's not forget secondly, home office always conduct background check.
If If the guy has traveled to for example Iraq for example in his trip, they have some places Have you been to this before? They won't tell you that.
So, they would do all those thorough background check before they grant it.
That's why some application takes longer than than the other.
Unless you are telling me that you you saw the form before they submitted because you didn't see the form is difficult to exactly.
Exactly. So, it's difficult but the case worker would see everything in there.
Maybe he's been married before or he came 5 years ago or 3 years ago as a visitor he overstayed the visa and is now applying. They factor all those things to consider the genuity of the application before considering. So, I won't take it on face value that my came back in 3 days and somebody's came back 8 months after. It depends on the complexity of the information the applicant had provided.
Thank you pastor. That's a very That's a very brilliant one, sir. Now, I'm going to just going to add this to our pastor's comments now. There are some applications whereby even if home office discovered that this application cannot be decided within the time frame.
You know what they do? They will write to you to say your application raised some complex this and that they need to do something. They will Do you understand? I don't know if you have received that kind of letter before.
Sorry?
Why?
Why do they write that?
Well, that's what pastor have said.
There are some cases whereby some application raised home office need to carry out some due diligence, they need to do some background check, they need to do some security check.
Do you understand? There are some cases like that.
All right, we'll take care the next question from Roshan.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you, sir. Um I just want to circle back to what you mentioned early on about indefinite leave to remain, right?
Um have the rules changed for a 10-year route um spouse spouse pathway um in terms of obtaining um settlement or is it still 10 years up to now cuz I know somebody who first applied in 2021.
Um but again, I don't know if there's any truth to this. Um if the rules have changed that you one can apply earlier than the 10 years. Could you shed some light on that, please? Right. Okay. Now, rules under indefinite leave to remain.
Some people, if you're married to your spouse or you're British, you want to apply. If your application is under if home office decide your application under 5-year route, you maintain your 5-year route.
If your application is decided under 10-year route, you stay on the under 10-year route. But there are some cases whereby you are granted leave to remain under 10-year route, but you want to change, you want to shorten your leave to remain time of the leave to remain, for example, to 5 years. There are some certain requirement you need to meet.
Does that make sense now? Yes. Back to your question, have they changed any rule? Nothing changed. Still the same.
Okay? Nothing changed. So, the if you're married to your British spouse, you were initially granted leave 2 and 1/2 years under 5-year route.
Stay on your 5-year route.
There are some cases there are some exceptional cases whereby your 5 years can be extended to 10 years.
Don't forget.
If you don't if you do not meet the requirement to continue your 5-year route or take for instance your you're separated, you're divorced with your wife, and you have a child you have children with that person. Okay? Home Office can decide to say consider your application under 10 years. But at the same time, there are sometimes where where you submitting the application form, it will be written there, do you want your period to be considered under 5 years or 10 years?
Do you understand? So, if you meet the 5-year requirement, yes, your application will be decided will be considered under 5 years route.
But back to the question, are they changing any rule under 5 or 10? It's still the same. But whether you you meet the requirement or not, it is you that will decide.
Your relationship with your British spouse.
Have they kicked him out? Has she kicked you out? Or have you kicked her out?
That will decide.
>> we'll take the next question from uh Yes.
Okay. Um what will you advise if you're on a COS and um you make an invitation a visiting visa for someone and your COS is being revoked and the visiting visa has been granted, is that correct? Yes.
Would you advise for the person to still come?
Okay.
You now, Mr. A is on on COS. He shoots um invitation letter to someone to come on a visit visa.
Along the line, the COS sponsorship cancelled curtailed or revoked for one reason or the other.
Then the visiting visa has been granted, is that correct? Yes. And has Home Office notified the visitors that your visa has been curtailed again that your sponsor another change?
If the if the Home Office have not informed the person coming from abroad to say your visiting visa has been curtailed you got no business you got no problem.
Come come over.
But when you come don't be don't don't be prepared to ask to ask some questions at the point of entry.
Home Office can decide not to come back to you to say wow your your COS your sponsor's COS has been revoked.
Yeah? But you yourself you decide what to do.
When you come if you claim you're coming for two months two weeks, please come and go back.
Yeah, if you stay within the rule you won't have any problem.
But most importantly, home office will contact you if they want to contain your visitor visa. If they don't contact you, carry on with your life.
Does that make sense?
Thank you very much Uh my question is this.
You know, somebody that's on a COS working under the care sector.
Now maybe there's an issue with that COS. Now wanted to switch to another sector.
Is this is the person starting all over or he or she's going to continue from where she stopped on the care organization? You know, as we speak now, have you seen anyone getting indefinite leave to remain under the COS?
Under the health care worker. I'm not talking about as a nurse or a midwife or something.
Yeah? We don't have that yet.
So once you are moving, there must be a reason why you are moving now.
For example, you are being employed by employer A. So you're now switching to employer B for one reason or the other.
There must be a reason why you're moving. So why are you moving? I will I will answer the question, yeah? You are moving maybe because the employer A is not giving enough shifts. Is that correct?
Or they're not provided the the Never never meet up.
>> up with illegal contract. They didn't meet up?
Whose fault? Is that your fault?
Yeah, it's not your fault, yeah? Now what I'm saying is that instead of switching to health care organization >> Yeah. he's now switching to maybe other sector.
>> Yeah. So is he going to continue that same maybe he has spent three years. Is he continuing from the three years he has spent or all over again?
>> Well, that's a good question again, but you remember you came on a on a skilled worker.
So, you're on a skilled worker. You're expected to meet the 5-year requirement before you get your ILR.
Now, for one reason or the other, you're now moving to Minister of Religion.
Let's assume that, yeah?
So, you as you stay on that. Home Office can come. When it is time for you if you make application after you must have spent your 5 years, you're now submitting an application for indefinite leave to remain.
Home Office can come back to say, "No, we're not granting you leave to remain.
We're not going to be granting you the indefinite leave to remain because you did not stay on under the employer A who brought you in in the in the first instance. Your 5 years start counting from the day you switched to Minister of Religion.
Do you understand?
Yes, Home Office, but your status will still not go off. Home Office will will advise you to say, "No, you're not qualified for indefinite leave to remain." When that happens, go back to your lawyer. Let them fight. Let Let them make application for you.
Okay? That's a very complex area you're talking about.
So, what is your own advice now? Would Would you advise such a person to look for another COS in the health sector or still switch over to another sector?
Well, if I say look for COS in that sector, the question is do you get Have you gotten one?
If I'm going to advise you now, stay there. Don't move Don't move away from health care. The question is am I Do I have a care home to employ you?
What if you have a lot of things going on in the system in the in the country?
If you can't get one, obviously you grab the one you have now.
Is it not better for you to be legal than to be to live in limbo?
Do you understand? So, if you have one, if you are able to secure sponsorship license from health care worker yeah, route. Fair enough.
But, if you can't get one, you now see our pastor now. Maybe our pastor love your face like your face is being a very good person. The person I'm trying to say to you, "Okay, Mr. A, we want to employ you."
Okay?
Instead of you becoming illegal, what do you do? You grab that move.
Don't stay there.
Does that Have I answered your question, sir?
I'm sorry. What That is a very good question, sir. A lot going on in the system.
All right.
We are aiming to finish uh by 1:45.
So that uh >> [laughter] >> Okay, ask your question. All right.
Uh sir, um I know of people that are They are They are post study is running out and they are thinking of probably going going to do another course.
Right? So let's say perhaps the person does another course, let's say radiography, i.e. radiography or probably physiotherapy or something within the medical space or nursing. And the person graduates.
Is it possible for the person to get a COS? Because from what I've heard is once someone gets a post study, it's only once. You can't get post study twice or something like that. So if the person gets a COS, would the government or would the Home Office allow the person to stay after the person have finished his or her study?
So do you understand what I'm saying? So let's say someone is currently in post study now, currently.
>> On a graduate visa. You're on a graduate visa. Okay.
The person's visa is expiring. In the next couple of months.
>> Yeah, in the next couple of months. And the person is thinking of going back to school to study a different course, maybe physiotherapy, radiography.
>> It's a 2-year, maybe a 2-year or a 1-year course, right?
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> So if the person graduates from that particular course and the person is able to get a COS, would the Home Office allow the person to stay or the Home Office will say you've you've you've you've you've blocked your chance?
>> No, no.
You can apply for your visa to stay.
That's it. But the person can't get a post-study after that study anymore.
>> can't. Okay.
All right.
Yeah, you still got questions. Okay.
Thank you very sir.
My question is this.
You are on the COS and then like you have been saying now, the COS was revoked. So, what is your advice in getting another one which you have to pay money? When you now pay the money, the even the people that you paid to, they don't have enough job again. So, what will be our advice even at the first in the first instance that is is it advisable for somebody to go for paid COS after he have come in on the COS that was revoked?
Sir, I Are you there?
You mentioned You mentioned something like pay.
It's a very serious one.
Paying for COS.
No.
No, very sad.
Don't pay for COS.
Okay. Let me give you this example now.
There's a lot going on in this country.
Hommies are aware of this. Yeah?
>> [snorts] >> I feel I feel worried. Doctor knows. I've spoken to him many times when I see things like that. I'll call him. He's my very good friend. In fact, he's not even my friend. He's my brother.
Yeah? I I am a bit worried about the way people are being treated.
I'm worried.
You won't take for instance now. Let's assume that I have a law firm.
You are a lawyer.
Yeah?
How How do you expect me not to call you sir to say, "Come and work with me.
Give me your money." You want to work for me, isn't it?
Why do you have to pay me?
Well, people are paying. Some people are paying.
>> Okay.
Now, see, desperation. You know what you have what you have said, yeah? Paying money is a very serious offense in this country.
Very serious offense.
How will you pay someone to say, "Come and employ me." Okay.
Now, look at the sponsorship we're talking about. For we lawyers for us to register a company now to say we want to apply for sponsorship for a company.
Generally, okay?
What we pay to the Home Office is not much. What the employer will pay is about maybe £350 or £500 or something. I'm not sure if it is like it has increased now because we don't do that anyway.
We're not interested. We don't get engaged in all these kind of scandals.
We hate it. We know it is completely scams.
Now, you can imagine for someone now, a lawyer register a company, got sponsorship license for a company for maybe £500 or something, paid statutorily paid to the Home Office.
Now, an employer now trying to engage someone from abroad paying £12,000, £15,000. That's a very serious offense.
Home Office are aware of it. Home Office are clamping down on them now.
And you know the most painful thing again is when they come into the country, they leave them they leave them in limbo, right? They can't get a job for them.
Some will even travel as far as bringing as many people for their own selfish interest, leaving you yeah?
Stranded, yeah?
Well, when we see people like that, we advise them legally. We will tell them the implication of what they're doing. In most cases, we will report them to the Home Office.
We do.
Do you understand? We do.
And for you now, happen to be victim, yeah?
Inform the Home Office, please.
You the victim because I will say you are a victim now. Inform them to the inform Keep on Home Office informed.
Hope that Hope you not be put into trouble.
Good question. Hope you will not be put into trouble.
Good question, yeah?
Seek legal advice. You'll be properly guided. Whether there are provisions for you to play safe or whatever the organization what organization if you have organization to to protect you for reporting or bringing these people to the Home Office to the attention of What's the Home Office doing? That's a good question. You know what happened is this. Take for instance employer A brought 10 people.
Out of the 10 people they brought into the country who paid them money.
Many of them who cannot they are not bold enough to go to the Home Office to report to the Home Office.
But you know what?
Home Office is sitting down observing.
They know how to get them.
But the moment Home Office get to know that you as an employer you're not providing your contractual hours to these people, they come back to you.
Don't look at Home Office as being stupid. They're not stupid.
Trust me. They're not stupid. They're observing you.
Okay?
Now, for this type of people, only one person Only one person will expose them. If only one person is able to expose them, at least I've heard about three, four cases where home office, you know what?
They wrote to the employer. They went to have meeting with the employer.
Guess what home office did? When they got to the employer, they requested for the files of these people.
To you.
They started calling all these people.
Asking them questions.
To say, "How many hours do you work?"
Do you understand?
Home office will gather their report, but the home office One thing about home office again is they will not make a decision until they are able to gather their information together.
Don't think they're not doing their investigation. They have their own They're doing their underground investigation about that employer.
Once they have their accumulated report information they need, they strike.
Do you understand? Then they write to the employer revoking the employer. Sometimes what they do behind the camera, the employer will not come to tell you what home office do to them.
The employer will not come to tell you.
A lot of A lot of them are into trouble.
Bring trouble.
Do you understand?
So, very unfortunate that our people are in this mess.
You know, the home office is aware, but that is why we are here to say, "Seek legal advice. If you're in that situation, please do not keep quiet."
Look.
What Sorry, one more. If you keep quiet, it's like when you are in pain, okay?
Dying silent, you're not You're not speaking out. Who's going to take care of you?
Yeah? So, the moment you speak out to the home office or you speak you go to a lawyer, the lawyer able to push your application forward or able as aware of that. Then, you might be lucky to be self-guided.
But, most importantly, seek legal adviser.
All right.
I have a friend uh his wife is on health care visa.
They've spent like 3 years.
So, he now got a job.
And the job, they said he should apply for global talent.
When he applies, he will pay for him.
So, he's asking if he wants to know if when he applies for global talent, the years he had spent on that as dependent on that his wife's health care visa, is it going to count towards ILR?
Or if he applies for global talent, he has to start again.
Again, you are you're talking about moving, changing, switching out, changing routes now.
>> Yeah. Remember, you came as a dependent on your wife.
No, he came as a student. He came as a Okay, he came as a student.
>> Student. His wife got health care visa.
>> Yes, you're you're depending on your wife. Yeah. Yeah, no. You are If you're depending on you on your wife or your husband, you can do any kind of job.
That's what it means. You're not restricted The dependent The dependent is Yeah, the dependent can do any type of work. Yeah, he can do I'm not talking about the job.
He wants He's getting a job and he wants to give him global talent to pay for global talent visa for him.
What kind of No, but but you're you're depending on your wife already. Yeah, he just finished school.
So, he changed.
I'm dependent.
Both of them? talent Both of them, you mean? No, just him. So, he wants to know if if he changes to global talent, is it going to start counting again towards ILR?
Yes, now.
Yes. The only person that Once you have the status in the country, the only people that cannot meet the ILR requirement is when you're on a graduate visa. The moment you have you move, you switch, yeah? Or you are able to secure a work visa, then you're put potentially moving closer to towards Ireland if you meet the requirement at that time.
So, is it So, your advice now that Is it that if you take the global talent job or if you remain as dependent on his wife so that he can quickly meet Ireland?
That's a good one. Your wife, remember your wife is an um health care worker, health care health care worker. You are dependent on your wife. If you move to global talent, talents, you're going to start afresh, isn't it? But the moment your wife now gets indefinite leave to remain, yeah?
You'll be You still have to go meet the requirement under global talent.
What if the global Why do you want to move? That's the first question I need to ask you.
About changing to 10 years and all. No, no, no. No, forget about that. The The only time you can move if you are not sure of your wife.
>> [laughter] >> If you're not sure of your wife or if you're not sure whether your wife can potentially or can permanently secure her Ireland, that's the only time you can move. Does that make sense?
Sir, have I answered your question?
All right. So, we are Okay.
Any other question? Let me just Doctor, this gentleman he want He asked a question. What to Yeah, yeah, he wants to ask. Any other person who wants to ask question?
So, you want to ask, too? So, we have two more questions left.
Thank you.
Sorry, this global global talent visa I've been hearing about it. With the global talent visa, can you work for an enterprise organization or you have to be self-employed yourself? You can't work for any other person. It has to be by you. Global talent, for you to move to get global talent is a very hard job.
You need to first get your endorsement first.
Your endorsement, if 10 people apply for endorsement, only people you might just home office can decide to give two or one.
If you have any other route, don't go through don't go through don't go to that global talent. But if you don't know if you don't have any if you have not met any other requirement, you think you meet the global talent requirement.
You're restricted now, remember.
You're restricted.
Remember the boy you're on 3 years route.
Is it after the 3 years?
Within the 3 years.
You can work anywhere.
Oh, does your your friend might be breaching the immigration rule?
Okay.
All right. We'll take uh one house one house one house.
Yeah, you we can get that from AI will give you the Okay.
>> [laughter] >> All right. Let's take your question.
Thank you, sir. Well done, barrister.
Yeah, my question is what can someone do in a situation whereby your employer because your your employer give you CRS and he's using you as a yardstick.
Like, there is no work There is no life balancing. He can ask you to do whatever, you know.
Probably, um you don't have a stable rota.
Let me use that word. He can say, "Oh, I need you to come to work this weekend."
And you must not say no.
"I need you to do this." You must not say no. No trying to eliminate you in fact in front of people. Because he say, "Oh, else, especially those who are on visa, on visa."
And, you know, as a Nigerian man that our blood is always hot.
>> [laughter] >> You know, to be realistic, this is what happens to me at place of work.
And even this person called co-manager is not a British, but it's because he has been a He has been here for a long period of time.
But I um I realized that the way she's addressing us, and uh it makes so obvious to everyone that we actually came for our advanced slavery. Because I believe in a situation like that, it shouldn't be like that.
Giving us CLH should not be like you should have a knock to our neck.
So, that situation, I just want you to clarify that.
>> Okay. Your question is you came on his pa- Oh, sorry, on a sponsorship visa. No, no, no, no, not on a sponsorship. The company deal was when I arrived there.
You said the same. You are on a on a sponsorship route visa. Is that not correct? Okay.
So, you are being pushed back and forth by your employer. Yes. Mhm.
Two things, immigration and employment. Now, listen, sir. What you have said is not restricted to you alone. A lot of people are going through this.
Some employers are just like that.
The moment they know you are on a sponsorship visa or you are under them, or that you are at their mercy. Or probably they know that you can't migrate, you can't change your status, or you can't progress without them.
Preaching here and there. Okay?
Remember one more thing in your terms of contract. Yeah?
Were you not given a hours of work?
Maybe you are contracted to work 30 hours a week. Huh?
Have you worked your 30 hours a week?
And this employer coming out to push here and there.
Okay. When that happens, what should you do?
That's under employment law. Yeah?
Report.
Seek Seek legal advice.
Now, the most the most the most difficult thing is you have to be very careful.
You have to report at the right time.
Now, if you going through this, and you don't bring this to the attention of HR, okay? If peradventure you commit any or you have any issue, it will be taken against Okay? So, that's why we always advise you, seek legal advice immediately. Get a lawyer and explain your situation to them. You see that they write this person to check him, to check the employer to say, "Look, this is what our client reported to us. This is what the law says. This is what This is where This is how you should be treating our client." But some employer, they wouldn't want to hear that. They remember they see letter from lawyer, they say, "Oh."
All right. Praise the Lord.
So, I think uh we have gradually come to the end of the >> [laughter] >> All right. All right. All right. So, So, um on behalf of uh the men of hope.
Okay. Uh okay.
Do anybody still have questions?
>> [laughter] >> We have just 9 minutes to 1 2:00. So, we are hoping to finish Right. Okay. Sorry, doctor. Yeah. You were talking about asylum the other time. Is that correct?
Okay.
So, why have you talked about asylum?
Oh, okay.
But, not all cases fall under asylum claim.
Okay. Not all cases. Not all problems fall under asylum claim.
However, there are some cases whereby your case can fall under asylum claim.
Yeah. There are some cases.
Some will will say to me, "But, I've been in the country now for the past 3 years.
But, from what I read online was that maybe you can only make asylum claim at the point of entry."
Some will say that.
But, the question is, truly can you make asylum claim after you must have spent 1 year, 2 years, or 3 years in the country?
The answer is yes, you can make asylum claim. It depends on your circumstances.
Is that okay?
All right.
We'll take your questions.
Okay. So, just a general question.
Um so, I've got a friend who stays in Nigeria.
Um but, his wife and his kids are in the UK on um uh sponsorship COS.
So, he is on a dependent. So, he comes in and out of the country.
So, and they're counting their 5 years now. So, they're in their fourth year.
The question is um this person that goes to and fro, the husband that goes to Nigeria and back.
Um if the wife is now going to be on the ILR, will he be able to now go on the ILR with the wife?
If not, how long will he have to to be in and out for him to be able to now, you know, go on the ILR that the wife is going to go on to very soon?
Thank you, sir. Now, if you if you look at the the status carefully, resident permit.
Many people they don't understand what resident permit is all about.
Resident permit, what does that mean, please?
You are residing here. That's what it means.
You asked a very good question, sir. A lot of people are going through all these. A lot of people they don't understand the implication of what they're doing.
Now, your wife is about to apply for ILR. You depend on your wife. You've been off and on, in and out. Yeah, continuously. You have not even spent 3 months or 6 months in the country.
Yeah? So, your wife is going for ILR and your child or children. The question is, can you also apply as a as a as a dependent to your wife?
Mhm.
Okay now.
Sorry, just to buttress what uh barrister has just said. I think uh I'm not seeing the person, but I think I've spoken with him.
He has been going in and out. When he wanted to put in for the ILR, they wrote in that he should come and explain the gaps.
So, immediately he saw that, he just for took the next flight to the UK. I think he's still he's still on that up to now.
He will still be on that in tomorrow.
Sorry, I'm not crossing. I'm just enjoying.
Not a joke. Right?
Now, you asked two questions now. The question is, can that person be considered under alongside with his wife? If not, can that person still make an application or what will be the status of this person? Now, the first question is, it can be very difficult like you said.
You going to stay till Jesus Christ comes. Now, once the wife and the children have gotten their indefinite leave to remain, he can decide to change decide what So, what do you want to do?
He can decide to say, "Okay, you want to stay here."
If you want to stay here, make application. If you make application for indefinite leave to remain, home office will say to you, "Gentleman, sorry. You have not spent your continuous period in the UK. You've been on and off. Come and explain." If you do not have genuine reasons for going up and down, you know, home office can decide to give you your leave to remain maybe 2 and 1/2 years.
In some cases.
Take for instance now, somebody who want to apply for British citizenship. You got your indefinite leave to remain. You believe you're on top of the world.
That's I got my ILR now. I don't have any problem. I can go and come. Mm, fly in and out. No problem.
So, when it is time for you to apply for your citizenship, submit your application. You home office will come back to you. In the application form, home office will say to you, "How many times have you spent outside the country?
How many times have you traveled? Number one question. Number two, how many days have you spent?
Number three, give the days give the date you traveled. Give the day you returned back.
Number four, explain why you have going up and down."
>> [laughter] >> Why is he doing that now?
Working there, isn't it?
But remember the you said that you got you got resident permit. You're supposed to reside there.
You will explain tire. That's what it means.
All right.
I also got a question.
Although mine it's it's a friend who has a got a bit of complications.
Now, she came on a student route.
And the student route she did an extension.
>> And as post study, okay.
Then after the post study about to finish she now did an extension.
Now, in the extension Do you mean postgraduate? Extension of postgraduate? No, she had postgraduate extension.
>> Okay.
But at the expiration of the postgraduate extension, she has not been able to secure sponsorship COS. Yeah.
So, she now Yeah, did the farming like an an extension of that postgraduates. The home office came back Sorry, if you say postgraduate, are you mean postgraduate studies?
Or postgraduate visa?
Graduate visa? Okay, she came for masters.
>> Yeah. 2 years.
>> Yeah. After the masters, she got another 2 years. Okay. Where she could use to Yeah, of post studies.
Now, after the 2 years Post study work.
Yeah, post study work after the post study work visa.
She was unable to secure COS.
So, she was Yeah, she applied for further leave to remain.
Now, on the further leave to remain further leave to remain home office came back and they did not grant the further to remain.
So, but before then she has been talking with her immigration lawyer. The immigration lawyer had put in some claim and all of that, some some suit in the law. So, Home Office first of all they wrote to the immigration lawyer to withdraw the this thing. Then Home Office had not the uh refused the application for further leave to remain. They have not.
She has made that application. Home Office has not replied her, but they now advise that she withdraw the Yes, I think it's IJR or something that she put in into for the case. So, she now withdrew it. Immediately she withdrew it >> [laughter] >> Home Office now refused her.
So, the lawyer now has also put in another counter this thing.
That is where to review the whole case.
Judicial review they call it.
So, her faith is hanging at the moment pending on the judicial review. But she is a minister in one of the churches.
And the pastor of that church has a COS and is willing to give her a COS now.
What can she do? Can she still go under that COS?
That is the situation she is now. Thank you, doctor. Now, um when you talk about JR we are able to identify we have JR pending.
And also we have an application before the Home Office. Home Office said, "Withdraw your JR." Is that correct?
>> Yes. So, that they can make a decision.
>> Yes.
So, now as we speak JR is still pending.
Yeah, JR is still pending. Okay. But first of all, they withdrew the first JR. Yeah. Home Office now refused. So, they now lodged an application for JR.
They now put in another JR. Okay. Now, the question is, how do we know that this gentleman is having a JR pending?
Now, Yeah.
the JR has been pending for more than 1 year now. Okay. Of course, we know JR can last for as long as it can take for 3 years or 3 years, it depends, yeah?
Now, JR is Let's assume that JR is pending.
Judicial review, once judicial review is pending, you still have your legal status.
Okay? You can make application for COS sponsorship. But, the thing is, when you are making application for sponsorship, always make reference to that JR. Unless I'm not sure if that JR has not been withdrawn or cancelled. If JR is pending, obviously you'll be giving what? The long code of JR to say you have a JR pending. You can proceed to make application for your sponsorship. You got that, or not?
But, make reference always make reference to that JR application pending in the application form when you're making it to the Home Office.
Do you understand?
Yeah.
>> Okay, sir.
My question is this, what is your advice somebody that have been on COS, the COS was revoked, is now doing 20 hours, then ILR is coming maybe by next year they supposed to put in their ILR.
So, what is your advice? Should they continue or what will happen if they dis- I mean, they knows that the COS have been revoked? Will they accept? What will you do or what will you What will you do in that case?
COS revoked. Yeah, revoked. Who revoked the COS? Home Office.
>> Home Office. Is that COS for that person or the the sponsorship license for the employer? For the employer. There must be a reason why the employer's sponsorship license was revoked. Yeah.
Now, the Home Office, what they normally do is once a sponsorship license for the employer is revoked, do you know what they do? They they push it to pool.
You will you will be asked to go to the pool. Yeah. Pool. Once you're in the pool, so you can easily find um employer that will pick you up there.
No. You are covered. You are still covered.
Provided you are not the one on target.
It is the employer. Employer.
>> And the employer was Yeah, it was employer sponsorship that was revoked, not you. Okay.
>> left in in the pool. So, carry on with your thing. Ah.
>> [clears throat] >> Thank you, sir.
>> Does that make sense? In fact, let me leave. Let Let Clarito Let Clarito >> [laughter] >> Let me ask Let me ask this Hold on.
No, let me ask to this question he asked my barrister. Now, Right.
>> you have 5 years you have 5 years on your COS and you've done three already and and 2 years to go and while you are still waiting to get a new one, the 5 years elapse is now. Can the person apply for the ILR since like you said it was his sponsor license that was revoked, not the employer. So, now can the person apply for that?
For ILR. I think there are conditions you need to meet for you to apply for ILR. Because Are you working the required hours? No, now no job 20 hours is is working 20 hours because 20 hours Yes, but but yes.
has been revoked has been revoked. Yeah.
Okay.
Outside.
Outside.
Okay.
To tell you it has been revoked.
Okay.
You are informed.
Now, what I'm saying, during the time of looking for it and your You have 5 years. You've done 3 years.
The 5 years now is elapsing. Now, during the period of 2 years, you did not get anyone and it has expired now.
Meaning you you are legally staying because the letter You are not written to leave the country. They did not contact you to leave. Then now the 5 years has elapsed now. Can you apply for it? I allow because you have been working 20 hours.
It's just a question to know. Now, let's come back to your Let's come back to your question.
Good question.
Now, there is more you Your sponsorship license was revoked by revoked by the Home Office.
Remember you're not the only person working with that employer.
Okay. You're You've already spent 3 years. You have 2 more years to go. But you However, you've been working with one employer under 20 hours, yeah?
And Home Office have not written to you like my gentleman said because if you In some cases, if you are at work at fault, Home Office would have written a letter to you giving you 60 days to sort yourself out. Nothing like that. And you are very sure that you've checked your email. You have not received any letter from Home Office stating that your all of these sponsorship licenses will be revoked.
Revoked.
You are very sure of that. Okay. Sorry, let me let me come in here.
Home Office has a lot of backlogs and they cannot write to everybody. That is the truth.
I don't know. I don't know how they are going to But in a in a in a situation where that situation you mentioned now, you have 2 more years to go.
Right? You've been work doing 20 hours somewhere.
Now, to you are about to hit your five years.
Can you apply for indefinite leave to remain? Application?
I cannot I cannot say to you whether your indefinite leave to remain remain will be granted or I cannot say. Home Office will decide.
No, no, no, no, you can ask.
See.
No, no, no.
No.
Now, look at this. Look at Sorry, look at this.
Look at this. Look at the question you asked. It's a very good question again.
All right, one house, one house, one house, please.
You have a contribution.
Okay.
Sorry.
You are You have two more years to go.
Okay?
Home Office are not listening to you.
You are not at any fault.
Now, the question is you have your two more years to go or you are closer moving closer towards your two indefinite leave to remain.
Make your application.
State No, no, he's saying See, what you are saying is different from what you have said. Yeah. It's Yeah. One is five years, one is three years. Yours is three years. What he said is five years.
Okay? From what the five year you talked about, are you clear with that?
Yes.
You can make application for indefinite leave to remain. Okay?
No, no, no, no, no.
You are contacting See, as you are checking as you are checking your e-visa, it will be written it will be there. It will be written that you are still covered. Yeah.
Why you won't go meet them now?
Yeah.
So, don't contact Home Office.
Put in your application. The Home Office will decide if you meet the threshold for ILR or not.
Okay? You want to work more than 20 hours somewhere else, and they are willing to offer you sponsorship license. Is that correct? Then, when you make application, you are contacting Home Office that you are changing, moving from one region to the other.
That is where you contact the Home Office.
>> [crying] >> Is that clear? But, the case he mentioned, the 3 years you need to get another sponsorship for that 2 years before you can get Yeah, before you can get your ILR. Is that clear, sir? Yes. Your 3 years. Are we on the same page?
All right. The final question. The final question.
Okay.
It is important that you do the needful.
Because Home Office will send you an email telling you that your sponsor's license has been revoked.
That you should look for another one.
And they are going to give you a link that you will register your name so that you can be in the pool. That's the pool.
>> Which is very, very important. Because they have the name of those who are in the pool. Because when ours was revoked, I logged in there and I registered. And I was contacted by the council. So, we're going for meetings. They, you know, take They collected my CV. They review it. They send it to employers. We are preparing for interview. And they, you know, some people were even gotten COS through there. I've gotten my later, but people some people were also gotten COS through that. So, it is important that you don't just sit down.
You go into that link, filling your name. Let it be there so that they know that, you know That that is when you are if you are contacted by the office. Yes, you would only be contacted. You will be contacted. Home Office will send you the letter. Once you are sent Once you receive the letter, follow the instructions from the Home Office.
Yeah, you will never have any problem once you follow the instruction.
Okay. One more last question.
So, the question I'm going to ask is similar to the 5 years question that they ask about somebody who has uh the COS has been revoked. The employer's COS has been revoked. But, he's still working full hours with the employer.
Right?
And he's nearer to his 5 years. Maybe he's got about 8 months left. Right?
He's still working with the employer as we speak now. Can he put in his ILR as soon as he reaches 5 years without getting another COS?
No, no.
Remember the COS was It was revoked.
Yeah. Yeah, the sponsorship COS was revoked. Yes.
>> And he's still working with the employer.
>> employer.
>> Yeah, you're doing well with the employer. You have no issue with the employer.
>> Okay. Carry on with your job. When it is time for you to apply for indefinite leave to remain, make your application.
You have Do you need Do you need an active COS at that point in time when you are Have you been Have you been asked to log in to go into the pool?
Because he's been He's still working with the employer, so he's still paying his tax. He's still doing his 40 hours a week.
It's just that the Home Office have written them that your license have been The employer's license have been revoked, but he's still stay with your employer as we speak. That's what the Home Office said. Yeah. They didn't say stay with the employer. No, no. They will They sent They sent them a letter.
The link They sent them a letter.
No, no, no, no, no. The employer The employer The employer told the employee we are still checking We are still checking with Home Office on this issue.
Now, the question is, was that curtailed or suspended?
Ah, the word They They said it's been revoked. That's the word they used.
>> Okay. That's the curtailed. Yeah.
>> Curtailed. So, if it is because they did two different languages now. If you say suspended, >> Yeah. maybe they can still reconsider.
Okay. The investigation is Yeah, it can still be re-revalidated.
>> Okay.
>> But, in the case of where it has been curtailed, yeah? Now, Home Office have not written to you to say move or give other reasons or go to another employer Okay.
>> and you are with the employer you're working. So, once he reaches 5 years, he can just >> Once you Yes, because the problem is who you going to tell? Have you Were you able to get another employer who was willing to offer you sponsorship? No.
No. So, if you can't get any sponsorship from any other employer, what do you do?
Do you go to the Downing House or Home Office to say, "Come on, give me sponsorship letter."
>> Okay, so you're just putting You're just putting your eye out. Okay, then, the decision will now will will be and make sure that Yeah. Let them take their own deal. Let See, once once once once it gets to that stage, please, when it's time for you to make application for indefinite leave to remain, do not fail to disclose information to the Home Office.
Please, and don't tell lie.
Explain to them the way it is. Yeah? Let Home Office use their discretion to make their decision. Do not tell lie, please.
Any information that are required to be disclosed, disclose it to them. You'll be fine.
All right, on that note, I want to appreciate our speaker for coming for this event.
Please, sir, you can take your seat.
>> Thank you very much. Yeah. For coming for honoring the event.
It's our pleasure and I want to also APPRECIATE EVERYONE.
I WANT TO ALSO APPRECIATE EVERYONE who has made it to this who came for this event today and thank you for all the questions. I I I I hope we have gained one or two insights from this section.
Sorry?
Oh, we gained more than one or two. One thing I want to say here is because our speaker started that um some things are confidential, some information are confidential and if you would like to discuss further his channels are open. You can contact me, you can get Grabis phone number or contact after now and you can have those conversation afterwards. So, you can see him thereafter now so that you can get any confidential issues sorted. So, on that note I'll call on I think Epikani is gone. Pastor Dele, you give us a closing prayer, sir. Thank you very much, sir.
Praise the Lord. Hallelujah.
Shall we pray?
Our father and our God, we want to say thank you.
We appreciate you, Lord, for a day like this.
Thank you, Lord, for the barrister you have come to enlighten us.
Thank you, Lord, for the people who are here.
Thank you, Lord, for the wisdom we have gained today. Lord, be thou exalted in Jesus name. Uh we commit everyone who is going through immigration challenge into your hand.
You are the God of peace. You are the prince of peace. We ask that you grant every one of us peace of mind in the name of Jesus.
Your word says, "I am the God of all flesh. Is there anything too difficult for me to do?"
We know there's nothing too difficult for you to do.
Concerning every challenges regarding the immigration, we ask, oh Lord, that you come through for us in the name of Jesus.
We are using this advent to pray for as many who have COS challenge.
You that brought forth the ax head from the river, we know it is you are able to bring it forth. Lord, we pray. Very soon, Lord, let them come forth with testimony in the name of to UK. It will not attract shame in the name of Jesus.
You said wherever the sole of our feet step, that we shall possess it. We have stepped into this United Kingdom. We pray, Lord, we possess it in the name of Jesus.
Lord, we say thank you.
We appreciate you. Blessed be your holy name for in Jesus' mighty name we have prayed.
Shall we all share the grace together?
But the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with us now and forevermore. Amen. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life. I will surely dwell in the house of the Lord forever and ever.
Hallelujah.
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