Mkhwanazi Warning HAUNTS Zuma as MK MP Falls Apart

Added: 2026-05-27

[00:00:00]General Muanazi warned South Africa about political interference in the criminal justice system. At the time, some people laughed. Some said he was dramatic. Some said he was fighting internal police battles. But little did we know, Zoomer's own political house would also start appearing in the same dirty conversation.

[00:00:23]Now, one of Zoomer's MKMPs, David Scosa, is allegedly dragged into the Joe Ferrari Sibioni Extortion Storm.

[00:00:33]A case involving millions of rand alleged pressure and serious criminal questions. And this is where Paul O'Sullivan suddenly matters. Because before the Sibone story exploded, O'Sullivan sat in Parliament, clashed with Scosa, and said something South Africa should have taken more seriously.

[00:00:52]He said certain committee members should be investigated by Madlanga for allegedly protecting criminals.

[00:01:00]Welcome to Mr. T podcast. Like the video, share the link and let us start with the clip they probably wish everyone forgot.

[00:01:09]>> Insulting me and defaming me. So whatever they may do in this house, they have privilege for. But what they don't have privilege for is insulting me and defaming me on social media. And they become experts at it. And the reason they're doing it is because, and this is the reason why I've asked the Mad Langanger Commission to investigate certain members of this committee for actually being involved in protecting criminals in the criminal justice system. What you've indicated in my opinion amounts to primma fakey evidence of the fact that certain members of this committee have taken a decision that a case that has no merits whatsoever will be reinstated.

[00:02:02]That means that those members of the committee that have demanded the reinstatement of that case have failed to read the uh memorandum by the new national director of prosecutions where he makes it clear that there will be a reexamination of the case. He doesn't say he's going to reinstate the case. And I can assure this committee there is not a cat in hell's chance of that case being reinstated because the case is fake and it's made up by dirty cops and a dishonest prosecutor.

[00:02:37]>> I just wanted to say to you and and good morning to Mr. was also given that the what happened outside not in fact in the president of parliament last week when he left he he made some allegations against me that I must go and pay my debt at the bank.

[00:03:02]Now I I have to say it here that at a later stage I'm going to uh show you and him he must retract that as aspiration casting aspiration that I'm owing 600,000 because that money was paid and the proof is here. It was paid last year. So for for him to um point a finger at me and say when I'm saying to him you are running away he said I'm I'm running away from the bank you know I just want him to be prepared for that because the the the issue which he was talking about was done and dusted and in fact um chair if you if you're running a business if you know what business is all all about there was nothing sinister of one owing or having a judgment or whatever because it was a default judgment that judgment which is talking about his history and and I've got proof here that that that money was paid when he was doing interviews on NCA he was asked several times on daily newspaper he mentioned that 600,000 and and I want to just say to you the the proof is here so I want him to apologize and retract that I want to give evidence of the allegation made against me in the president of parliament that I'm running away from the bank I must go and pay my debt Can you please um Romano give him the proof of payment which was paid last year the issue which he's talking about and I want him to apologize and retract for us to have a a conversation because he misled this country because that that issue which he's is talking about that judgment we are talking about is here and and the the company name is land security and pro and pro and projects I I I even paid no because they're going to take screenshots hence I want to give him. I don't want this thing to be going all over.

[00:05:00]>> No, you must say it must be himself who who say said that it should not not be me. That that was a judgment. That was the pay payment. So you've misled the person who called you whoever he is misled you.

[00:05:16]The payment total payment is 642,000.

[00:05:31]No, thank thanks Chen. Um I don't know which which part of our investigation this one falls under where a member of the committee produces evidence.

[00:05:49]I thought it should be the other way around because we shouldn't uh create the wrong precedence of the committees to fall where things are done like we're in a schoolyard school kids accusing each other of this and that and having to prove to each other about this or that. I think just saying the allegation was a lie and and so on so forth is sufficient uh than to produce evidence to a witness about the personal matters.

[00:06:24]Uh and even as that this should not be published and tomorrow we're going to see it out there. We will not know how it got out there. But the fact that it passed through this passage, it will it will also have implications on us.

[00:06:40]Thanks.

[00:06:45]That is a valid point, honorable MMA. I think you you wanted the witness to know that you as he instructed you last time that you must go and and pay your debts. You want him to know that you have paid you are in good standing.

[00:07:04]>> Thank thank you chair. Like everyone in the country who run business, you will you will understand that. But what I'm saying is that misleading this parliament was completely out of line.

[00:07:16]So I just want him to retract that.

[00:07:18]Thank you.

[00:07:18]>> Yeah.

[00:07:20]>> Mr. Paulo Sullivan, do you see the proof of payments?

[00:07:24]>> Switch switch off your microphone.

[00:07:27]Do you see the proof of payments by >> chairman? Chairman what I see is I see some documents which are a bit fuzzy but it appears to be proofs of payment. I also see a document which says judgment by default 25th of September 2025.

[00:07:48]>> Yes. What you are saying is that you must not read that because it's a personal and confidential.

[00:07:53]>> Okay. is for is for your for your perusal.

[00:07:57]>> Okay.

[00:07:58]>> But what he says is that once you have seen that and satisfied yourself that he is indeed in good standing because he has his own personal reputation >> to to protect and and the juristic person that he represents.

[00:08:16]>> First of all, chairman, I didn't >> and that your statements have gone viral.

[00:08:20]>> Yeah. Well, if they went viral, chairman, it's because the member in question recused himself from parliament followed me out.

[00:08:30]>> I I don't want to make that a point of debate. Now, >> okay, >> if you listen to what honorable Malama said, >> let's not bring what does not belong here into our proceedings. I want him to ask you questions and and then at the end when you have gone through that and satisfied yourself in whatever platform if you agree to go out with the ENCA and that that hold of journalist which followed you on Thursday last week we can I can arrange for you outside.

[00:09:02]>> It's it's not going to happen if the member >> No, no, no, no, no. It's not a point we're going to debate now. I want him to you, you and him.

[00:09:12]>> I was listening to our witness lecturing us how to run this country that overseas this is what they are doing. Some of us uh Mr. Oivan, we don't have dual citizenship.

[00:09:26]We are South Africans.

[00:09:28]Our DNA which runs in our blood and vein.

[00:09:34]We are not Europeans. We are not settlers in this country. And it's unacceptable for you to lecture us about how things should be run in this country. You've been doing this for many years unabated, unprovoked.

[00:09:50]And I'm not even sure whether because your journalist which you say there's good journalists, they give you news. I guess we are talking about you Marin was the um Marian Tam Karen Morgan Basson the startcom journalists who are misleading you but let's start here Mr. also Sullivan.

[00:10:14]Are you the same Paul Ollivan who was born on February 17, 1953 or you were born in August 1955 >> chairman? I was born on the 26th of August 1955.

[00:10:31]>> Thank you.

[00:10:33]Now >> sorry, let me finish.

[00:10:35]>> No, no, I'm I'm fine. Remember, you are responding on me. What I cannot accept is a 30-cond question or 10-second question preceded by a five minute lecture uh where you define me. I have never ever lectured. I was asked a question and I answered the question. That's not a lecture. I think we really need we really need to to keep our >> uh decorum here because if you're going if you're going to sit there and defame me and lecture me, I will respond accordingly.

[00:11:14]>> No, I will as well. I mean, you made an interview on NCA. You said that we must leak our ess you said that on NCA. You using your language.

[00:11:25]>> Sorry, I said what?

[00:11:26]>> We must leak our aces. I must eat your what?

[00:11:30]>> You you you must hear again. I think those hearing device are not doing just justice to to you. You said on NCA that we must lick our asses.

[00:11:41]>> Eat your asses.

[00:11:43]>> Lick lick our asses.

[00:11:47]>> Who said that?

[00:11:48]>> You rubbish.

[00:11:49]>> Yeah. Let let me tell tell you for for maybe maybe you forgotten.

[00:11:55]We are going to play that that video here.

[00:11:57]>> Okay.

[00:11:58]>> Yes.

[00:12:00]And I I I think we'll play it at at the end.

[00:12:04]I can tell you now you are going even not to disclose.

[00:12:09]you said as well when when when you wrote to say that you don't want to be interviewed by MK party, EFF and uh action SA am I right chairman those were um shall we call it interactions that took place before I decided to come and testify and those interactions were supposed to point out that by the way I'm not happy to be interrogated by people who belong to a party uh formed from what I consider to be a criminal uh syndicate.

[00:13:00]Yeah. Now hence hence I'm I'm saying that your attitude the way you behave you behave like you know you are talking to your I I'm not sure I don't even say to say to to your to your to to your workers we are members of parliament here every 400 member in this house is a member of of parliament you can't dictate who you want to speak to you can't say to us that we are not capable of getting and probing you like any other witness. We are not a special person here. Now I don't know what your question. You're making statements.

[00:13:41]Chairman, the reality of the situation is the MKP went on record before I came here to give evidence. I'm not going to take any more questions until I can finish answering this question. No, your ass is not going to help you with me. You can play that with other people. Not with me.

[00:14:02]>> Not playing against >> No, no, no. Your your white supremacy arrogance is not going to help you with me. You must answer what I'm asking you.

[00:14:09]You can't dictate to to me.

[00:14:10]>> What I'm not doing.

[00:14:12]>> No, we are doing exactly that. What you are doing to to the security dictating?

[00:14:16]You can dictate to them. No, not to members of of parliament. Your arrogance is not going to help you.

[00:14:21]>> Honorable.

[00:14:22]>> If you are attacked, you are attacked.

[00:14:23]>> Honorable just a moment. Honorable Malm chair uh I will ask you to prevail over the witness because he can't speak to members of parliament in a manner he's doing and to an extent that he even points fingers and that he even interrupts you and get into exchange with members of parliament at this level because all he needs to do is to answer the question and if Scosana honorable Scossana says I'm satisfied he must plead with you that I need to expand on this point I'm asking for indulgence chairperson that's what a dignified visitor does not to come here and engage in a manner he's doing with us >> and try to threaten members of parliament and all of that. That's what gets some of these members of parliament agitated.

[00:15:30]>> There's a chairperson here.

[00:15:32]>> He's been invited here and he's going to respect the chairperson and obey the rules of parliament. When he's not satisfied with a certain conduct, he gets his turn which will not eat on members time and say, "Chair, there's certain observation I want to make which I'm not happy with." And he does that not to exchange with us and point fingers at us and tell us some of you must be investigated by Madlang. We have heard that nonsense before.

[00:16:02]>> It's appropriate for you to say to him you will buy his house and sell it at a profit.

[00:16:09]>> Why not? So it's appropriate.

[00:16:13]>> Why not?

[00:16:14]>> It's appropriate for you to threaten a witness while he's testifying here in parliament. I didn't threaten any witness. I told the witness he was lying through his teeth and he belonged in prison.

[00:16:26]>> Didn't you send a message to Mr. Gabinda?

[00:16:29]>> I've just said chairman.

[00:16:31]>> Is that not a threat?

[00:16:33]>> Sorry, I can't answer if you're going to keep in trouble.

[00:16:35]>> No, I'm asking you questions. You will answer because I'm asking.

[00:16:39]>> You will answer. You will answer. You will answer. I'm asking you questions and you will respond.

[00:16:46]>> I'm trying to answer and you interrupting me. I'm not interrupting you. I'm asking you questions.

[00:16:51]>> So, what is the question?

[00:16:53]>> Asking is not an interruption. I'm saying to you, is it appropriate uh for you to send a witness a threatening message while he's testifying here in parliament? I didn't send any witness a threatening message. I told him it was an offense to lie. It was a offense to commit perjury and he belong in prison.

[00:17:14]And that is a fact. And he >> when you say you will serve a >> person I I have not finished answering the question chairman I told him also that I would be opening a docket against him. I have opened that docket against him and I think the rest of it we shouldn't be debating in parliament. We should leave it up to the criminal justice system.

[00:17:34]Is it appropriate for you to send messages to a prosecutor who is prosecuting you?

[00:17:44]He wasn't prosecuting me.

[00:17:46]>> Well, was he not prosecuting your case?

[00:17:49]>> The case had been struck off the role.

[00:17:51]>> No, no, no. I'm saying I'm saying during the course of prosecution.

[00:17:54]>> No, I didn't send any messages during the course of >> Even after. Even after because when the matter is Mr. >> Chairman, I can't work.

[00:18:01]>> No, no, no. I'm answering a question and it's because I'm contextualizing my question to you to refrain from.

[00:18:08]>> I'm saying to you I'm saying to you, Mr. Paulo Sullivan when a matter is struck off the role it can be reinstated it doesn't mean that that matter cannot be reinstated is it appropriate for you to send messages to a prosecutor who is dealing with your case Mr. Paulo Sullivan.

[00:18:36]>> Chairman, I'll answer question if I'm allowed to answer a question.

[00:18:40]>> You are allowed. You are now allowed.

[00:18:41]You can respond.

[00:18:42]>> You see, I'm being interrupted again.

[00:18:44]>> You are allowed to respond.

[00:18:50]Given the circumstances of what was going on at the time, given this the criminal conduct of the Northwest team or the Mabula team, whatever you want to call it, and given the circumstances of that prosecutor, what I did, I I believe was appropriate. And if if it's not appropriate, that was, by the way, nine years ago. What if it's not appropriate?

[00:19:17]Why are we discussing it today?

[00:19:20]No, no. It's because the the the case is going to be reinstated for as long as members of parliament.

[00:19:27]>> It will never die a natural death. It was struck off the role.

[00:19:31]>> H you are not acquitted.

[00:19:33]>> So it will be reenrolled.

[00:19:37]>> Now if that prosecutor was still working for the NPA, he was going to handle the matter as he was doing before.

[00:19:46]Is that a question?

[00:19:47]>> No, no, no. Can I answer?

[00:19:49]>> Yeah, you can answer.

[00:19:50]>> Are you making a statement or asking?

[00:19:51]>> Yes, I'm making a statement, but you can respond if you like.

[00:19:53]>> Okay. Yes, I will respond.

[00:19:56]>> General Muinazi stood at a podium on the 6th of July 2025 with eight armed men in combat uniform behind him and told South Africa that a drug cartel had infiltrated the criminal justice system.

[00:20:09]Politicians were involved. Senior police figures were compromised. The system was not broken. It was captured. Nobody wanted to believe it. Then Paul O'Sullivan walked into that ad hoc committee on the 5th of March 2026. Sat down under oath and said the criminal justice system is still captured. Cases gathering dust. 15 million rand of his own money. 36 years of his life and the system is still captured. And the man sitting on that committee, the man supposed to be investigating that captured system was David Scosina, Jacob Zoomer's number 15, the man who publicly thanked Zoomer for leading from the front. the man who 14 months earlier had submitted a 15 million rand bid alongside Joe Ferrari Sibonei to buy Royal AM football club, a confirmed documented publicly reported business partnership between a sitting MP on the criminal justice oversight committee and a man the Madlanga Commission was hearing testimony about as an alleged key figure in the big five cartel.

[00:21:16]Nobody raised a conflict of interest.

[00:21:18]Nobody asked Scossana to recuse himself.

[00:21:21]He sat there and he went to war with Osullivan instead. He called him a spy 10 times by Osullivan's own count. He read out a British army number from 1972.

[00:21:33]He accused him of woman abuse. He called him a conman, a thug, a thief, everything this country does not need.

[00:21:42]And when O'Sullivan had heard enough and walked out, Scosner chased him into the parliament precinct and screamed spy at him in front of every camera in the country. Osullivan turned around and told him to go pay his bank debt. The next morning, a standard bank sheriff arrived at Scosner's door. 642,000 rand default judgment.

[00:22:06]One week later, Scossana was back in the committee chamber tableabling proof of payment, demanding a retraction, saying the money was paid last year. O'Sullivan looked at the documents, saw a judgment by default dated September 2025, and refused to apologize. Scarser told him he was dealing with the wrong honorable member, then accused him of white supremacist arrogance, then said, "Some of us have been tolerating this for many years." This is the man investigating police corruption. Now, Joe Ferrari Sibonei, arrested 12th of May, 2026 alongside three co-acused by the special task force, charged with extortion and two counts of money laundering. The state alleged that between 2022 and 2025, Siboni and his associates forced a mining businessman named Thomas Nuli to pay more than 2.2 million rand in protection fees, threatening to shut down his entire business operation if he refused. The money was deposited into accounts and allegedly laundered through various other accounts. Siboni's lawyer was Sha Abrahams, the former national director of public prosecutions himself.

[00:23:25]The investigating officer switched off his phone. The director of public prosecutions gave no response to the defense. State prosecutor Musli and Taba had been specifically ordered by magistrate Cifocazi Tonjeni to appear in court on Monday the 18th of May. Three days earlier, he had tried to tell the court he was unavailable. She overruled him and ordered him to appear regardless. On Monday morning at 900 a.m. And Taba was nowhere. Abrahams applied for contempt of court. The magistrate agreed. A warrant of arrest was issued for the state prosecutor. The case was struck off the role. The courtroom erupted. Sibonei was embraced by supporters in designer suits. His co-acused celebrated like they had won something because they had. The case can now only be reinstated by written authorization from the director of public prosecutions in Mumu Langa. As of today, that authorization has not come.

[00:24:27]Reports on social media alleged that Scasana phoned Antuli and offered him a reward to drop the case. And Tuli has publicly and categorically denied receiving any such call, stating the allegations are entirely fabricated and baseless. That denial is on the record and it stands. What is also on the record is that Scosner's business partner was in the dock for extortion while Scosa was sitting on the committee investigating criminal infiltration of the justice system. Whether or not a phone call happened, the structural reality of that overlap does not require a phone call to be extraordinary.

[00:25:05]Embueni and Lozi, former EFFMP, now a private political analyst with no party to protect and no side to take, posted publicly this week that the ad hoc committee needs an audit. Very bad apples in there. A man who left frontline politics, who has been publicly critical across party lines, who has no institutional interest in protecting anyone, looked at what was happening in that committee and called for an audit. Osullivan said it under oath. Certain members of this committee need to be investigated by the Madlanga Commission for Protecting Criminals in the Criminal Justice System. Scoser's response was to call him a spy and chase him to a car park. That response tells you more than any phone call ever could.

[00:25:49]When a man asks a corrupt system about its corruption, the corrupt system does not answer the question. It attacks the man asking. It calls him a foreign agent. It digs up a 1972 army number. It raises a domestic dispute from 26 years ago. It calls him a thug and a conman.

[00:26:09]It follows him outside and screams at him in front of cameras. Because the one thing a captured system cannot afford is a witness who will not be silenced.