GET IT DUNN! | Former Capitol Police Officer Harry Dunn runs for Congress to END TRUMP'S SHlTSHOW!

Added: 2026-05-16

[00:00:00]We got a special guest right now. Hi, chat room. Welcome. Hit the like, share the show. Before we get started, um our uh friend of the show and friend of America, Harry Dunn, who's running for the Maryland District05, if I'm not mistaken, is joining us this fine morning. Good to see you. I uh I put that in your title just, you know, Harry Dunn for MD05 and you know, so we're clear about the mission here.

[00:00:24]>> Thank a Thank you for your service and thank you for stepping up. I think there are two crucial aspects of this that you know not only as a Capitol police officer and everybody you know certainly in my liveream knows your experience on Jan 6 and your stepping up to the plate after that fact but then continuing on in public life to be a public servant in another form uh is a great thing and appreciate you doing it. Let's start off with how the campaign is going, what your feelings are about it now, where where you are, what you need, all that kind of stuff.

[00:00:57]Yeah, man. No, no, thank you for that and I I appreciate th the words about, you know, my public service and being a public servant. Um, but look, I I think we're at a place right now where we need everybody to do something um besides sitting behind a keyboard being upset and just rage tweeting. And so I I think we need to find but but let's be clear, there is room for rage tweeting because it's necessary. And and you know what?

[00:01:23]sometimes we need to scream and to avoid because especially because of everything that's happening right now, but I just feel like we want to do something that's tangible and actually try to make a difference. Um, now this is my second time running for office. Um, and and uh the thing is though, a loss didn't stop the desire and the well the need for fighters that we still continually need uh especially in these times against this administration. So I just try to figure out how can I be helpful, how can I be useful, how can I be the most impactful in this moment right now. So there was an opportunity where Stenny Hoyer retired uh he says retired at the end of his term and created a a vacancy if you will for an opportunity uh for me to enter Congress again. Um well enter Congress not again but run again.

[00:02:10]>> Yes. Right.

[00:02:11]>> And I I was as soon as he made that decision I wasn't convinced or I hadn't decided if I was going to run or not. I I didn't know like I'm not a politician.

[00:02:20]Like a lot of times when politicians see an opportunity, they're like, "I'm in."

[00:02:23]>> But no, I I had to sit on it for a while. I had to think about it. And the deciding factor was when I watched on a Saturday morning in February, Alex Prey get murdered. And after watching that horrible footage, which so many people did, that was my that helped me make my decision to I am absolutely doing this.

[00:02:42]And we are the election is June 23rd.

[00:02:45]Um, so we are, you know, rocking and rolling and and getting getting to the closer to the finish line.

[00:02:51]>> It's it's really exciting and I, you know, I always say when it comes to politics and how we talk about politics in our country is that there's a lot of like griping because we can um that becomes kind of um almost neutralizes itself. You know, you people gripe about politics like they gripe about the DMV when quite frankly the DMV works fairly well most of the time considering, you know, the the kind of issues they have to deal with all the time and the fact that they're licensing every driver on the road kind of matters. You know, it it it should be a little complicated, especially when you're out in traffic.

[00:03:24]And the same thing is true of, you know, of politicians that um the process itself should be complicated. You should be sure you want to do it. It should be it should take some work, right, to to get through this so that it's not a flippant choice. We see a lot of that happening. And when when you know MAGA QAnon adjacent folks have found a bright red district and can just run and they'll, you know, as long as they say Trump enough times, you know, at least in the last, you know, two previous elections, they'll get elected and stay elected. Um, you know, it it's a fairly flippant choice. And they leave like Marjorie Taylor Green. They don't stick around. They, you know, they come in either to enrich themselves or to flail around for a bit. But it's a public service job. It's work. It requires your, you know, a commitment to like this idea that, you know, eventually you're going to want to be on committees about issues you care about, whether it's law enforcement, national security is an obvious one, or maybe you just find that you have uh, you know, a real uh understanding as you go along of of tax policy and those kind of things. and those committee seats open up and then you get to 5x for your district, >> your impact not only on theirs but the the national conversation. So, are there areas where, you know, this is a job you're going to get, uh, if if you're, you know, if you're fortunate enough to win, and I certainly think you're a good man, so you deserve it. And I don't think any of us have any fear of you being in there and doing the right thing when you're in there. But as far as a trajectory, what are things that really, you know, like like pretty, but like areas where you really care about where you're like, "This is going to be my primary focus." You're obviously going to have to respond to your constituents and they may be varied in their what what they need and all that your district specifically, but where are some areas that you feel particularly moved by or or you know are driven to make a change in?

[00:05:21]>> Well, so the the whole the whole process first of all and you know I I I actually so I'm in my car now and I just left an event with retired federal workers. I have another form later with some a targeted uh demographic or a targeted county in the later on this evening. Um and I say this a lot that Congress has a lot of functions but two main ones that stand out uh and it's they control the purse. That means they could they fund things. They determine where the money goes >> and and they're supposed to conduct and hold oversight and hold people accountable.

[00:06:01]>> So the two main things of my campaign are accountability and affordability. So you know like everybody a lot of people want to move on from January 6. A lot of people want to move on from Donald Trump. And you know what I I would love to I would love to. However, I don't believe we can move on until there has been accountability because a lot of people are worried that hey, things that are happening now can happen again. A lot of these things that Donald Trump is doing are illegal. So, when they say, hey, there no guardrails in place or, you know, there there's a lot of other things going on um that that that can prohibit Donald Trump in the administration from, let's say, firing illegal workers or going to war without congressional approval.

[00:06:44]There are already laws and statutes and guidelines that prohibit that. However, what we're seeing from this administration and they're not following it. They don't give a damn about it. You know, they're using the Constitution as a a suggestion manual rather than the actual law of the land. And a lot of people were worried about, you know, Donald Trump stopping midterms. A lot of people expressed concerns, we're not going to have midterms. Donald Trump's going to halt them. Well, I was never worried about that because states control the elections.

[00:07:14]And what did the Supreme Court just say last week with the gutting of the Civil Rights Act? Um, >> with the voters, what did they just say?

[00:07:22]Louisiana just paused their suspended their elections. Alabama doing the same thing. Donald Trump put out a a troop social on Sunday encouraged all Republican governors in red states to do the same thing.

[00:07:35]So yes, we are at a fight right now where it's not just about policy and it's not just about suggesting law and and stuff like that. We literally are in a fight a fight for our existence or our democracy and for the the the life on America as we have known it. And I think that's one of the main things that I'm focused on now. Obviously, yes, January 6 is what brought me to this forefront right now. But I've been a public servant. I was a capital police officer for almost 16 years before I left the department. So, I know what it's like to serve the people and not be self-erving like so many elected officials we we know that they are. So, I think that we need to focus on one holding Donald Trump and this administration accountable for all the illegal acts that they are doing. I believe that when Donald Trump leaves office, it's going to be anybody that's not pardoned needs to be held accountable. Like period, you know, and if there ways to go after the people that are pardoned, we need to make sure they're held accountable, too. And resigning and quitting, whether it be Pam Bondi or Christy Gnome, is not enough because they are they have and they are committing illegal acts and Congress is responsible for having oversight when it in regards to that. And we are not seeing that. Uh uh Congress is supposed to be funding programs that actually further and better the American people.

[00:08:56]Donald Trump said during his uh when he was campaigning that he wants to deport the worst of the worst people, the criminals, the rapists, the murderers, the drug dealers. And you know what? I don't think that's a bad idea.

[00:09:10]Criminals, rapists, murders, we don't want them here. Get out. That I'm all for it. But that's not what we're seeing. We're seeing millions and millions and billions of dollars funded pumped into ICE to deport grandmothers, laborers, hotel workers, farmers, construction workers. They're not deporting the worst of the worst.

[00:09:29]They're deporting the best of the best.

[00:09:31]And that's what this administration is about. And we need to make sure that the funding that is going to ICE right now is going to actual programs that will help the American people.

[00:09:39]>> That's right. So, um, uh, real quick, um, the the website is harydunformd.com.

[00:09:46]Um, that's uh that's Maryland. We're not sending him to medical school, but you know, if that's what it takes, that's what we'll do. Um, harrydunformd.com.

[00:09:55]Uh, you can support uh through, you know, you can donate that way. You can also hear like look at his policy initiatives, see all of his socials.

[00:10:03]HarryDunformd.com. Just uh go straight there. I put the link in the chat so it's available to everybody in there.

[00:10:10]And uh thanks to Mark P and uh can't stop lying and Andrea for spreading it around um during that. So um completely agree about the this isn't about the you know him deporting the worst of the worst because I have one issue that's been kind of bugging me during in the criticism of the Biden administration especially from this administration which is this idea that 25 million to 30 Yeah. 25 million to 35 million people came across the border and entered the country and they're all you know rapists and murderers and killers and stuff which is garbage. Um anyways but that number is based on uh the recidivism number which was 5x or even in some cases 10x where people would because of title 42 would come across get kicked out come back across because it doesn't show up on your record the way title 8 does. Title eight, you come across, you get busted, goes on your record, and you can't become a citizen, and you have to pay a fine, and you get sent back and all that kind of stuff that really complicates things. What everybody hears that all the workers are hiding from is title 8. Title 42 is when you've got a disease or something and nobody's accepted. So, everybody just goes out and it doesn't go on your permanent record, maybe you didn't know. And so, we punted a bunch of people, most of the time, the same people over and over again. So there's by no means 25 to 35 million new undocumented immigrants in the country. They just don't exist.

[00:11:31]They're not here. We got about 11 million. That's a static number. And Donald Trump, you know, specifically to what you said was, uh, you know, about kicking out the, you know, people that work on farms or work in, you know, custodial service or work in hotels and stuff has made special carveouts for himself and his big Aggra business guys that they're all going to, you know, they're on the honor system now or some nonsense. I mean, none of it's enforceable except for Congress just allows it to go on. And even MAGA's mad about that in particular because they're not seeing these deportation numbers that Donald Trump promised. So he's got to replace the volume with cruelty that they've got to see.

[00:12:15]>> That's the thing.

[00:12:15]>> Yeah.

[00:12:16]>> Yeah. That that's the thing. They conflate those numbers so much and that's the thing. They overexaggerate all these numbers. And I'll give you a specific example. One we talked about this morning was Doge. And you know, I'm not trying to jump around subjects real quick, but it's I think it's important to talk about how this how this administration always does. And let's talk about Doge. Doge came in there and their objective was to find and eliminate waste, fraud, and abuse. And a lot of And you know, and listen, let's talk about MAGA. We agree. You know what? People say, "Oh, Democrats are soft on crime and soft." No, we're not.

[00:12:47]If they're criminals, then hold them accountable. If they are rapists, murderers, and and drug dealers, get them the hell out. We agree. on the record. Full stop. If there's waste, fraud, and abuse going on with government spending, let's stop it.

[00:13:01]>> Absolutely. Full stop. However, >> Doge talked about all this money and money that they found. It costs more than do to taxpayers to fund Doge to exist than the total amount of money, waste, fraud, abuse that they actually found.

[00:13:16]>> Right? So the problem is they're conflating these numbers and saying that oh it's so much going on when actually the reality is it's not.

[00:13:24]>> Mhm. Well, and they also I I personally think that this mythology about this quote unquote deep state which is what Republicans complain about all the time.

[00:13:33]What they really mean, what they really are talking about are people like Inspectors General and the whistleblower system and Congress, you know, the the committees that exist there both in the House and the Senate that check the numbers and refer to, you know, all the the stat like uh the stats they get from the different departments. They want to shut all that down so they can hide, you know, their basic spending spree. Donald Trump raised the debt ceiling $5 trillion.

[00:14:00]>> Yeah. in in the big BS bill so that he would just have cover for all this spending. They could go on a spending spree and never have to bring it up again every year like Democrats do. So the return I think maybe to your point, you know, the return to um we need to check the numbers here. we need, you know, we need to do what Doge said it was going to do would is a, you know, fits that accountability and affordability idea that you have because we can't afford the damage that Doge did to programs that actually work and benefit people.

[00:14:32]>> The other thing is is that Doge, you know, part of me is like whether it was a success or a failure is immaterial to the reality because it seems like Doge was just Elon Musk's way of planting people in all the cabinets.

[00:14:45]>> Failure. Well, yeah, >> I'll tell you I'll say it for you, too.

[00:14:49]>> Yeah. Well, exactly. But I, you know, be above and beyond that, it was an it was a strategy by Elon Musk to basically seed his own operatives into all these cabinet sectors where they now can report back to him. And Trump's not gonna mention or bust those people because he'd have to admit his own failure and that he allowed effectively corporate spies inside every aspect of his uh you know of his administration.

[00:15:19]And so one of the accountability things that's going to have to be there is these you know these exit interviews with these Doge guys that we've seen where they were just cutting stuff because it involved women or people of color or helping immigrants or just historical stuff. That's the stuff that makes a lot of noise. But in reality, we have no idea what access to personal information, personal financial information and health information that they do have now that they are, you know, funneling >> to to Elon Musk and others. And that's going to take some real investigations by Democrats after they get in power.

[00:15:53]Republicans are never going to do it.

[00:15:56]>> Yeah. They're they're never going to do it. And you know that that's that's another good point. Doge, they had access to all of our sens. They wanted access to voter roles, social security numbers, to all this private information. And for what these are and and these are 18 and 19 year old kids.

[00:16:12]Like I'm not saying that young people aren't capable of doing jobs, but these are just kids that Elon Mus Oh, these are tech buddies of mine. They're they're good and they're competent at this. And that that's problematic. So, and and and let's talk about all the funding and everything like that and all the that you said Trump raised the deficit ceiling. Yes, he absolutely did.

[00:16:29]And they're talking about being fiscally responsive, which Republicans used to be able to claim that that was their claim.

[00:16:34]That's what they wanted. Fiscal responsibility instead of spending so much money. I mean, we're upwards of spending millions and millions, hell, billions of dollars a day on this one illegal war that Donald Trump says he's admitting now he doesn't need congressional approval for. But though the guard rails are already just they exist, but he's just not following them.

[00:16:52]So there's always money for that.

[00:16:54]There's always money for ICE. There's always money for CBP. Hey, can we have money for to to take care of our veterans? Oh, it costs too much. Can we have money to pay for our seniors, our Medicare, our social security? Can we Oh, it's caused too much. That cost too much. Hey, what about health care? And you know what? Let's go back talking about healthcare when the the Obamacare subsidies were up and the government was shut down because the Democrats were holding firm and what at one moment about that which I I I disagree that they should have they should have stayed stayed longer with that because what they asked for and in their return to open the government was a vote by Republicans to vote on the Affordable Care Act subsidies. We're still waiting on that vote. So, I mean, taking them at their word or taking trusting them, it it's it's kind of stupid to trust them.

[00:17:41]They already showed us who they are. But with regards to the ACA subsidies, affordable care act subsidies, Obamacare subsidies, you know, the top 10 states that would that did see and have seen the biggest increases in uh their their healthare going up are all Republican states, >> all red state.

[00:18:00]>> And you know who was fighting to keep those subsidies low was Democrats fighting. They weren't even their constituents. Now listen, now let's be clear. Every single state, every no matter where you are, are going to feel the effects of it. But the top 10 states were all red states, >> right?

[00:18:14]>> But not one Republican was fighting for that.

[00:18:16]>> Yes, we, you know, the the just so we're clear, under Biden, the fiscal deficit, um uh the congressional deficit was uh one, if I am my numbers, 1.8 uh trillion dollars. That was the deficit. 1.8 8 trillion going into 2025, which is the budget from 2024. Again, 2023 is the fiscal layout from the year before. So, the deficit from 2024 is laid in place in 2023. The 2024 one laid in place in 2025. In 2025, it was 1.78 because it was coming down during the Biden administration. It was going down every year for every budget that they laid out. As soon as the big BS bill passed um in 2025, the the projected budget deficit for this year is $1.9 trillion.

[00:19:03]That's just the yearly expenditure.

[00:19:06]>> We are over right. We were shaving off a couple of hundred billion dollars a year ever since the peak after COVID, which was again us fiscally trying to plug a $20 trillion hole with $6 trillion of of rescue package stuff.

[00:19:22]>> Yeah. It's it was going down and it's going right back up. The extra $200 billion and that doesn't even include the supplement that they are seeking for the extra 200 billion for this the $1.5 trillion uh military budget that they're going to put forward. So the idea of fiscal conservatism >> ballroom too.

[00:19:40]>> Let's not forget Republicans for that.

[00:19:44]>> Republicans put that in the in the bill to his ballroom. So, >> right, because but that was going to be paid for with rich donors who just love our country along with his arc to Trump that he's going to put in front of Arlington Cemetery to to as a monument to his five, you know, draft dodging deferments.

[00:20:01]>> The one I mean, the idea that they are fiscally conservative is is beyond a farce now. Like, it's it it's it's cartoonish. Like I don't know how any of them argue this except maybe there's some leftover we're going to grow our way out of it fiction, right? Which is what that $18 trillion story that Trump is telling. So the um the question I have in in our last like six minutes together and I know you got to go and I really appreciate you you stopping by today and good luck on the rest of your stuff uh today. is this, you know, when you're out there talking the issues or you're going to be in debates, let's say, you know, you may you you go through the primary, you're debating whether there's a Republican running in the district or not and that kind of stuff. the all of their normal defenses for MAGA, for Trump, for why they elected him in the first place. No new wars, no regime change wars, the peace president, the it's he's going to be better for the budget deficit, prices and affordability, all that stuff. Um, you know, is is now just I mean I it's patently obvious it's a farce. Um, >> the pipe dream.

[00:21:12]>> Yeah. but or or a flim flam salesman. I mean, I really feel like at this point [clears throat] MAGA's really confronting that they they got PT Barnum in this situation. You know, there's a, you know, there's a maggot born every minute in on the on the Trump side. They just happen to think these people are going to keep getting suckered and and never and never have a a care in the world about it. They're just going to always assume Trump, you know, has some sort of religious control over their head or something. And so they're going to just allow for this. So what's what you know, how do you you're it's clear that you you you and I both agree, I think certainly that there are bridges.

[00:21:50]There are no partisan issues. They're just partisan solutions.

[00:21:54]And in some cases, there aren't a partisan solutions. There's only one way to solve a problem. If if you have a criminal, you put him in jail. If he's danger, you get him off the street.

[00:22:02]That's it. You know, how long and all that kind of stuff is worked out locally by and large. But in general, that's a thing we can both agree on. And so, obviously, you're going to have to reach across the aisle to um you know, right-leaning independents, people in the district that may have, you know, vacasillated in elections. So, you know, what's your message to them, you know, to go, you know, I'm not your enemy and I'm here to help you as well.

[00:22:29]>> Well, first of all, they have to see Trump as an enemy, you know, and you know what, and I'm sorry. I'm sorry if there are people out there that I I would have to vote that would I I would be looking for their vote that see Donald Trump as anything but a criminal.

[00:22:42]I won't budge on that. He is a criminal.

[00:22:45]And and like I say, we can agree. I don't think we can. I'm not talking about you and I, but we've already seen and admitting the truth about January 6.

[00:22:54]>> Like we can't even like he pardoned and forgave all the people responsible for it. So we want to talk about criminals and hold the people accountable. If we can't even agree on that, then we're not gonna we're definitely not gonna I'm not even gonna attempt to find and you know that maybe that's the non-politician in me. I don't want to find >> room to work together with somebody who can't acknowledge that January 6 was a criminally bad day and Donald Trump was the ring leader for it. Period. There is no But but when it comes down to everything when you talking about affordability, look, I don't care who you are. If you go down the street, everybody at that gas pump right now is saying, "Oh my god, this costs so much."

[00:23:31]And the the rep the pump don't care if you're Republican or a Democrat. The the grocery store don't care if you're Republican. Everything is expensive now.

[00:23:38]And we all can agree on that.

[00:23:40]>> Healthcare is unaccessible and and and too expensive. And we all can agree on that right now.

[00:23:46]>> We don't need to be out there spending millions and billions of dollars on wars in other countries. Hell, I think we can agree on that because MAGA Donald Trump ran on the premise of no new wars.

[00:23:57]>> Right. Right.

[00:23:58]>> Hey, if you would let Kla if you let Kla Harris were going to be in never- ending wars, >> dude. You're trying to take us in a new conflict with that like is Greenland next is is what about Cuba? All these other >> Cuba. That's what I'm saying. So, so many things. So, so when you talk, listen, there are, yes, there are some things that we can agree on and maybe not how to get there, but if we can't acknowledge that the person in the White House in this administration is a criminal entity and he's only doing stuff for self-interest, what about the Epstein files? We're still waiting on that. We've been screaming. I don't care if it's a Democrat or a Republican on it. They need to be held accountable and the victims deserve justice. Period.

[00:24:38]We need to focus on the things that we can and like I said and then we can actually start voting on issues instead of personality types.

[00:24:46]>> That's great. I I I that's uh I I can tell by the chat room that you're you're hitting the nerve exactly where I thought you would and that's really great. There is a uh you know and again you know when it comes to affordability when it comes to the Epstein files when it comes to wars there is an amazingly bipartisan unity on three issues at once. This is unique in you know in in a voting situation and ironically um I would even agree to some degree on immigration.

[00:25:16]Donald Trump is failing to do what he said on immigration is the rights take on it on on our side of the aisle. It's, you know, that he is committing crimes and he's not actually solving the real problem at all and he's just, you know, being cruel to show off to his MAGA base like some sort of, you know, UFC president.

[00:25:35]>> But there is agreement that it's not working. It's not he's not doing he's not fulfilling his promise. So MAGA's even drifted on that. It's one of his worst issues even though he ran on it more than anything else. So I think you're you've got a unique opportunity where there are three issues, you know, affordability, no new wars, and healthcare that there's broad agreement across the electorate. Um that favors Democrats, especially in this situation because not only are Republicans not a, you know, not only they making it worse currently, they don't even have an attempted plan to make it better.

[00:26:09]They're just like it will happen through magical trickle down economics or something.

[00:26:15]>> Right.

[00:26:15]>> I will say this real quick. I I will say this real quick. And yes, I when you said it favors Democrats, I wanted to do more than just favor Democrats because I think I think no matter what it was, it would favor the party that's not in control right now. And we need to make it clear that it's not just about picking the worst or the lesser of two evils. We actually have to understand that there's actually one party out there that cares about other people and there's another party out there that cares about enriching billionaires, millionaires, and and and forgets about the working class and they use them as hashtag and slogans instead of actually letting their uh legislation work for them. So, let's keep that in mind first and foremost. Um, but I don't think that it's just about, hey, vote for Democrats because Republicans are messing this up.

[00:26:56]I think vote for Democrats, the right Democrats, because there's some Democrats out there that will be like, "Wait a minute. This what are you doing?

[00:27:03]We're not in lock step. What the hell is this going on?" So, let let's make sure that we and that's why primaries are so important. Um, what I'm running in June 23rd. Um, but we need to make sure that we make it clear that one party is working for trying to work for the people and another party is working for themselves and the president, >> right? and his uh his donors and friends, his co-conspirators and other stuff, and of course his foreign buddies that do not have the average, you know, American's best interest at heart. Um Harry Dunn uh running, he's got a primary coming up in on June 26th, did you say? Is that when it is? Yeah, >> 23rd. 23rd.

[00:27:45]>> Sorry, 23rd. Beg your pardon. June 23rd.

[00:27:47]And you and so uh you got a race ahead of you. you're going to be uh you know um like shaking hands and kissing babies and and giving speeches and that kind of stuff. Good luck with all that stuff.

[00:27:57]Really appreciate you if you you're welcome back on anytime. And I want to remind everybody the website is harrydunn.com.

[00:28:05]Um check it out and and support it and appreciate it, brother. And again, you know, I know you hear this a bunch, but thanks again for uh your work on and around January 6th and your work as a police officer in general. Um it it is sometimes cons, you know, there's this myth that it's a thankless job on our side of the aisle and it should not be.

[00:28:25]So I want you to know just as a human being, I appreciate uh the the weight you took on just doing that job in the first place and uh and you your willingness to sort of be America's Secret Service detail and that you're you stand between us and the awful and that mean that that matters. That really does matter. So thank you.

[00:28:45]>> Absolutely.

[00:28:46]>> Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank Thanks everybody for the the kind words in the comments. I appreciate y'all. Take care.

[00:28:51]>> Absolutely. All right. We'll see you again real soon, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:28:54]There he goes. Harry Dunn for MD.com.

[00:28:57]Please check it out. And thanks again for coming on, Harry. Uh greatly appreciate that.

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