This debate sharply illustrates how the same political rhetoric can be weaponized as either a democratic right or a call to violence depending on the observer's bias. It serves as a sobering reminder that in modern politics, context is often a tool for persuasion rather than a pursuit of truth.
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He Said Trump “Saved Free Speech”… Then This HappenedAdded:
And why do you support Donald Trump?
I just like everything that all his decisions, foreign and domestic.
Every single decision?
Every decision that guy's made has been for the American people. Okay. Are you Christian?
I am, yes. Okay. So, how do you feel about him committing blasphemy?
How do you feel about him representing himself as the Pope and committing blasphemy?
Ah, that's another joke, Parker. You guys get too revved up on jokes he makes.
It's just a joke, dude.
>> It's still blasphemy and he's still representing himself as the Pope.
>> It makes it It makes it a little humorous. You got to admit. It's an unforgivable sin according to your God.
No. It literally is.
No, not really. Well, the Pope shouldn't be putting his two cents in then.
What?
I'm not even talking about him representing himself as the Pope right now. I'm not even talking about him representing himself as the Pope. I'm talking about him representing himself as God.
That was a joke, Parker. Come on.
Regardless of whether or not it's a joke, it's still blasphemy, right?
I guess. You can run on it. He's a king, too, right? There was two kings at the White House today, right?
I mean >> Cuz you guys gave him that nickname.
The fact that you guys The fact that you're okay with him normalizing calling himself a king and calling himself above the rule of law and undermining our democracy is an issue in of itself. He should not be able to joke with things like that. That's not presidential.
Right? The The president shouldn't be rage baiting people on social media.
Like that shouldn't be his job. He's He's not Listen, he's not a politician.
You know that, right?
>> is. He's quite literally the president.
>> is, but he wasn't, okay? He wasn't He's He's not the normal >> politician wasn't a politician >> politician, right?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Every politician wasn't a politician before they came became a politician. Like that's just every single one. Yeah. I mean, you know what I mean, though. I mean, a lot of the politicians started out from their local government, their towns, and moved up to Congress, Senate. You know, he didn't.
That's what I mean by that.
You know what he did do, Parker?
He donated millions to the Democratic Party.
Yeah. Isn't that like bad for you?
>> right? Was he okay then, but now he's not okay, right? Well, I don't think he was okay then. I don't think he's okay now. You don't think he was talking for you? You act like I have to agree with every Democrat that's ever existed. No, no, I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I don't agree with every Republican. I was a Democrat my whole life.
Parker, I was a Republican my whole life. I I don't know why.
>> Okay, so then so can I say that Trump was bad when he was a Democrat and when he was a Republican?
I don't care about his political ideology. I think he's a bad person.
Why would you say he was a bad person when he donated to the Democratic Party?
His whole belief was democratic.
Regardless of whether or not he donated to the Democratic Party, that doesn't mean I think he's a good person. He literally I didn't say we were. We didn't say he was a good person, bad person. I didn't say any of that. I said when he was donating to the Democratic Party, everything was hunky-dory for them, right? He was a good person then.
No, I wouldn't consider him a good person then. You wouldn't, but the the Democratic Party did.
I don't know if every single person that donates to the Democratic Party is considered I don't think every Democratic candidate thinks every single one of their donors is the moral example of perfection.
So do you think it was fair for people to do what they did to Elon's Teslas and all that?
I don't think it's okay to like destroy other people's property.
>> property, right. I don't either, right.
Right. So but he was a Democratic donor his whole He just, you know, Okay, and I still disagree with Elon Musk because he helped perpetuate the conditions for Donald Trump to get elected. He used, right, literally his ownership over Tesla stock in order to be able to use that as collateral against a a loan he took out to specifically buy Twitter. And then he used that and got tens of millions of impressions, put himself at the top of the algorithm literally >> Hold on. You don't know what you're talking about.
>> his position in He bought He bought himself into that position. You know how much he paid for Twitter, right?
Billions. I think it was like what?
>> 44. 44.
>> Almost double what Twitter was actually worth. I disagree. But I >> he did that?
>> And I also don't think that he should be able to do that. I think that should have been blocked.
>> did it? Why did he You No. He gave you a platform, Parker. No, he didn't. Elon Musk did not give me He did. He did. He has freedom of speech online because of him. Dude, he literally defunds and demonetizes liberal accounts on X. You know that, right? I know he just did that overseas.
>> Dean in the past has had literally months where he had a hundreds Dean has had months on Twitter where he's had hundreds of thousands or not hundreds of thousands, hundreds of millions of impressions. And he got nothing for it.
That where specifically Republican accounts, Trump supporting accounts will post and get, you know, a fraction of the same level of impressions that he would get and they'll actually get paid.
Right, significant amounts for it.
>> getting Truth Social going?
I think I think him getting Truth Social in that place in the first place is actually like shouldn't be allowed in the first place because he he has ownership of it and he's profiting off the valuation of it.
>> dude. That's not saving freedom of speech at all.
>> Yes, it did. That gave us a platform that would allow us to speak our minds.
That has nothing to do with freedom of >> time he was Listen, at the time he was the >> he's profiting off of it. You can have some sort of independent company that could do so and that's a whole separate thing we can talk about in the first place.
>> illegal to profit off of a company. That doesn't make it illegal.
>> Yeah, but like he's using the position of presidency, right, and his reputation while president to gain himself and garner himself funds.
He did it after his first term, Parker.
>> But he's while he's still running for president and you know he's still affecting his his level of net worth while he's president.
Yeah, because because he decided >> censoring us.
Yeah, but he wants to profit off of that.
>> censoring everybody, right?
>> why why did they why did they do that?
Why did why did Trump get banned off Twitter?
Why? Yeah.
I don't know. In uh interference with the election.
>> Well, maybe that's an election interference. Maybe that's an important reason. Election interference, Parker.
>> Maybe that's an important reason. Maybe that's an important reason, sir.
That's an important reason for what?
Absolutely.
>> not allowed to start up an internet company to allow freedom of speech to continue? He should have been imprisoned.
No. No.
>> Yes, he should have. For what? For January 6th.
No. No.
Yes, he should.
>> No different than when when other people go to the capital and sit down in a little thing and No, he incited a violent insurrection at the capital and then he pardoned violent rioters. Listen, yes, he did cuz he pardoned the violent rioters who beat police officers. What did you say What did Trump say to the people? He called them patriots and he pardoned them.
>> and peacefully protest?
>> But then he pardoned the violent rioters. So, why did he So, why did he pardon the So, So, buddy, why did he pardon the violent rioters?
He pardoned everybody because he didn't feel like they didn't really do much. They didn't do nothing wrong, really.
>> who assaulted police officers? I don't agree with that.
>> I guarantee if it were I guarantee if those were those were people involved with BLM, you'd be saying that they should be in prison still to this day.
And if liberals and Democrats pardoned people specifically who were involved in riots where they assaulted police officers and they pardoned the people who assaulted police officers, you'd still be talking about it to this day.
Hell, you'd be screaming at me about it right now because you think that violence leads to things like happening uh in terms of the president where specifically people shoot at him.
>> that are more violent than Republicans.
>> That's just a lie.
It is? Trump called for the execution of SOME DEMOCRATS.
>> THAT'S A LIE? YES.
You honestly believe that's a lie?
>> Yes. Can you name one Democrat in political office right now that's a mainstream Democrat that supports political violence?
They all do. Name one Name one. All of them. Name one.
Raskin.
How does she support uh political violence? It's a he. Raskin, Jamie Raskin. Well, I thought maybe I thought you were referencing someone else. I'm not sure who that is then.
You don't know who Jamie Raskin is? No, not off the top of my head.
>> The Jewish uh congressman? No. He he was on the January 6th Committee.
Okay. How do you not know who Jamie Raskin is? I just don't know. I'm sorry.
All right, that's fine. No, but anyways, listen to me. On another subject now, okay?
>> But what did he what did he say that was in support of political violence?
They all say it.
Maxine Waters "Everyone go down there and fight, fight, fight." You don't remember that?
>> Okay, okay, wait. Is that not what Trump said?
No, he said go down to the capital >> fight like hell.
>> protest. He said fight like hell. Yes, he did.
>> What?
Trump said Trump said Trump said fight like hell. Yeah, he also He also said Get it up and play it right now, what he said.
>> Wait, wait. You don't think he said fight like hell?
I know what he said. He said go down to the capital and peacefully protest.
>> said fight like hell. No, he didn't.
Yes, he did.
>> No. Play it right now. Get it up and play it.
I want to hear it.
Okay. Cuz you can't.
Yes, I can. All right, well, let's hear it. Yeah, do it. You want to bet?
No, I don't want to bet. Cuz you cuz you know you'll lose.
I'm not going to lose. He said peacefully go down there and protest.
That's what he said. He told people to fight. He told people to fight like hell.
Fight like hell? When did he say that?
>> He said that literally Yeah, he told He told >> Yeah, in the speech specifically on January 6th. He said everyone GO DOWN AND FIGHT LIKE HELL. I want to hear it.
>> Yes. I want to hear that. Okay.
I got you.
I hope >> to find the specific clip. Give me 1 second. If you want to make a point while I do that.
>> where you're finding it from and I don't want to hear AP that Associated Wait, you don't you don't like AP News? No. I want you to go to Ground News or something. Something where they >> You like Ground News? Ground News would say this.
Yeah, Ground News is perfect.
>> like NPR or PBS?
No.
No, those are those are horrible.
>> I don't like any of those. Nope.
No, you don't like any of them.
No, not really. No, because they're they're not they're Democrats.
They're Democrats. Okay, I mean >> They're all Democrats. They've You don't think Ground News is Democrat?
No, I didn't say Ground News is both.
Ground News is like all the way across the board, the best one to get your information from. Really?
Yeah, I believe so.
Associated Press, absolutely. I can't believe you you've actually say that.
Well, that's a left-wing newspaper, AP.
And uh Ground News isn't.
Okay. I'm I'm just honestly surprised.
I'm surprised that you said that here.
Um give me a second. It's it's hard to find the specific clip cuz it's like um longer.
>> Oh, I promise you he did. I promise you did.
Well, you might have you might get some kind of A up AI up there that puts it in his wording. We'll we'll see.
>> No, no, you'll hear. I hope so.
>> Never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong.
Thousands of followers Okay. Oh my god, dude. Why do I have to get a comment? I don't want a commentary video. I want the clip.
I there's just a million commentary videos. I apologize.
No, no, that's fine. I understand. I I just I don't know when he said fight fight fight, that was when he got shot in the air. And we fight.
We fight like hell, and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.
Do you mean Do you know what he means by what he just said?
Did he say go down and bodily >> Wait, wait, you said he didn't say that you said you said "pauca". You he didn't say that. He didn't say it like you're saying it.
See, you're just playing a little clip in the in the whole speech.
>> you mean? I I played the Listen.
I want to hear peaceful go down and peacefully protest. You didn't play that.
>> I I Yeah, because I didn't That's not what I'm disputing or saying that he didn't say.
>> that with you. Why? You You think that he said that? YOU >> HE SAID FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT, AND I SAID SIR, you you actually cited that he said that already. So, we already agreed that he said that.
>> but but but you're putting it in a different context how he said it.
>> Yeah, listen. Oh, I'm not putting anything I'm to save our country. He didn't say bodily Hey John. Hey John.
Hey John. I'm I'm just playing the clip.
Listen him. I know, but he didn't say "bodily".
>> then could you say the same thing with Maxine Waters? When he says fight fight fight, he's not claiming you like that's like that's like in a football game.
They say fight fight fight. They're not like actually telling you to go kill people.
Uh It's a non-literal sense.
>> Maxine Waters was pretty precise on attacking people. No, he didn't say that. That's not true.
>> she. It's a she. She's a Florida congresswoman.
Maxine Waters. Dude, I'm I'm swear I'm mixing up names right now. Oh, you are?
I don't know. Maybe you're not hearing me correctly.
>> No, I thought you were Sorry, I thought you were referencing someone else. I know who Maxine Waters is. I I thought Sorry, I have a I have a different congressperson in my mind that I thought you were talking about. Um he posts a bunch of TikToks.
>> I thought maybe you don't understand my Boston accent.
Pahk the cah in pahk the yahd. How's that?
Yeah, "pauca".
Um Can you Can you just engage in that point? Yeah, I thought you were I thought you were ref referencing Maxwell Frost for a second. I don't know why I thought that.
>> the clip. You played a little clip of his speech, but you're putting that context totally out of context.
I'm not. I'm I'm literally playing just a clip which is Take a listen. Take a listen.
>> and fight fight fight for your rights.
Listen in.
He said save the country.
>> Listen. Listen. All right, let me hear the whole thing. Okay.
And we fight.
We fight like >> And we fight. Sounds like the beginning.
Can you just listen to it without speaking, please?
>> am. Yep. Yeah, I'm sorry.
And we fight.
We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.
Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country. And I say this, despite all that's happened, the best is yet Yet to come. Yep.
Okay.
No, no, you didn't play it. He said peacefully protest. You see, I I I don't understand what you're cutting out like that part of the speech. I'm not I'm not just I'm just not going to play the whole speech for you. Cuz you don't want people to hear that he said peacefully protest.
>> sure. Because No, I've already agreed that he said that.
Did any cop get to capital that day?
Yeah. Uh so, people Let me Let me explain.
Can you please let me speak? Yeah, the reason is because people unalived themselves due to what happened specifically on that day.
>> What does unalived mean?
I have to I have to >> died. Hey, dude. I have to say that cuz it's TikTok TOS. So, I'm just telling you.
>> Why? I don't understand. What does unalived? Is that in the dictionary? Oh my god. Jesus Christ. There's There's way you you can't put two and two together, dude. Connect the dots.
>> put it together. I understand. I don't understand the logistics of people forcing other people to say things like that. It's because of TikTok.
I know. I don't understand it though.
Why are they forcing us not to have freedom of speech and say whatever the hell we want?
>> It has nothing to do with freedom of speech. It has to do with how the company operates itself. Freedom of speech is granted by the government.
It's that the government won't infringe upon your ability to speak.
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