East African says FBA’s aren’t black! | Can FBA’s prove they’re indigenous? | Season 4 Ep:67

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[00:00:00]Doula Mad Mad Moola.

[00:00:02]>> Yeah.

[00:00:03]>> Yeah. Wait, are you East African?

[00:00:06]>> Yes.

[00:00:08]>> What country you from?

[00:00:10]>> I'm Somali.

[00:00:12]>> All right. You from Somalia? Are you born in the US?

[00:00:16]>> Yeah, almost.

[00:00:18]>> What you mean almost? How are you almost?

[00:00:21]>> I came here when I was like 10, bro.

[00:00:23]>> Okay. You came here when you was 10?

[00:00:25]>> Yeah.

[00:00:26]>> You got naturalized?

[00:00:28]>> Yeah.

[00:00:29]Okay, cool, man. So, today's topic we are talking about uh why do Africans want FBAs to identify with Africa? And why do FBA say they aren't African?

[00:00:40]Everybody keep typing the screen. Y'all welcome in.

[00:00:44]>> Yeah, I think black people are indigenous to Africa.

[00:00:48]>> Indigenous to Africa.

[00:00:50]>> Yes.

[00:00:51]>> What makes you say something like that?

[00:00:54]>> Because all black people come from Africa.

[00:00:57]They don't even identify as black in Africa, sir. Y'all don't even see y'allselves as black. Especially not you Somalians.

[00:01:04]>> But but that's ethnicity.

[00:01:07]>> No, that's also a race as well. Y you guys don't even have a racial or or uh you listen over in Africa >> for the Hold on one second. For the most part in Africa, you guys do not have a social construct such as race. You guys identify with your ethnicity and the country that you come from. Like like exactly for prime example, what tribe are you from?

[00:01:29]>> Molly.

[00:01:30]>> No. What tribe?

[00:01:34]>> Whoa. He turned up. Whoa. Yeah. Wade came up on accident. We see he lit over there, man.

[00:01:40]>> Where do black people come from then?

[00:01:42]>> No, no, no, no, no. What tribe are you from?

[00:01:45]>> How we?

[00:01:46]>> See, that's my point. How you Yo, yo, y'all don't y'all don't go by race, sir.

[00:01:51]You came in and said you was Somalian.

[00:01:54]black. Wait, time out. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. You came in and said you identify as Somalian. That mean you identify with your nationality first.

[00:02:00]Time out. You y'all identify with your nationality first >> and then y'all say what tribe y'all from. Listen, we not going to do this.

[00:02:07]We I'm black stuff. Black people listen.

[00:02:09]No. No. Some of y'all East Africans be saying, >> bro, listen. Some Some of y'all East Africans be saying that y'all melanated Caucasians. Some saying y'all Arabs, bro. Like, we not going to do that. You not going to co-op blackness now. We not going to do that one. So, mad moola, >> do black people come from?

[00:02:26]>> Uh, let me hold on. When you say black people, who are you talking about?

[00:02:31]>> Dark people, African, everybody who got that skin black.

[00:02:34]>> Well, well, first things first. Um, life you do. You think all life started in Africa?

[00:02:42]>> Do you think that all life started in Africa?

[00:02:45]>> I'm not speaking about the human migration, bro.

[00:02:48]>> No. No. I'm asking you. Do you think that all life started in Africa? Of course.

[00:02:53]>> Yeah. You said of course. Well, that's just a theory and that that has not been proven, sir.

[00:02:59]>> So, who prove your theory then?

[00:03:01]>> I don't have to prove a theory. I'm just telling you >> cuz he ain't got none, bro. You're just speaking nonsense.

[00:03:05]>> Listen, I Dude, it's a theory. I mean, I can show you right now.

[00:03:09]>> But it's not facts.

[00:03:11]>> It's not It's not a fact. Thank you. You just made my point.

[00:03:14]>> Your theory is no fact.

[00:03:16]>> A theory is a theory. A theory is not fact. No, nobody's theory is fact, sir.

[00:03:21]Okay. I come from the motherland where do me where the all black people come from.

[00:03:25]>> No. Uh listen, Africa is not the motherland. That is not where all life started. Sir, that like I said, that's a theory and you cannot prove it, >> bro. Where do black people?

[00:03:35]>> Listen, listen listen. Prove to us that all life started in Africa.

[00:03:38]>> Are you black?

[00:03:39]>> Yes. I'm a foundational black American.

[00:03:41]Yes.

[00:03:43]>> When I come from Africa, don't say you're black. Then go ahead.

[00:03:47]>> No. No. We are black.

[00:03:48]>> Don't claim black. You're not black.

[00:03:50]Sir, sir, listen. I don't claim African blackness to Africa. No, what I'm not.

[00:03:54]No, what I'm not going to claim is African. That's what I'm not going to claim. I'm going to claim blackness because black people, we the ones that made it black. We the ones made it cool to be black. You understand? That's our race. That's our ethnicity. That's our tribe. Cuz that seems to be the only thing that you guys understand is tribe.

[00:04:10]You don't have no >> Okay, that's what you need to understand.

[00:04:14]>> You don't have I can ask them.

[00:04:17]>> So, question to you. Hold on. What's black culture?

[00:04:22]>> Black culture. Black people culture.

[00:04:25]Yeah.

[00:04:26]>> They come in different shapes and different types.

[00:04:29]>> I said what's black culture?

[00:04:34]>> All black people.

[00:04:38]>> Oh, can't answer the question >> because there is a lot of black people on the planet. Bro, which group you speaking about? You speaking about the Americans?

[00:04:46]>> This group. So, so we start calling yourselves black.

[00:04:50]>> We've been black way before you and everybody else.

[00:04:54]>> How can you prove that?

[00:04:56]>> I can give you a simple theory.

[00:04:58]>> I can give you a simple simple simple one.

[00:05:02]>> You know, Ethopia, do you ever heard about it?

[00:05:06]>> Yeah.

[00:05:07]>> Ethiopia. Yeah, we know about Ethiopia.

[00:05:08]>> You know the Europeans used to call it the land of the duskin people.

[00:05:13]>> Yeah, they did. They did. They did. And guess what? And you know what?

[00:05:17]>> So, so wait wait wait wait wait >> what?

[00:05:19]>> So in Africa the how many darkkinned people is there?

[00:05:24]>> Listen listen. So listen. Okay. So listen. So listen. This how we going to do this. Mad moola. There are >> where do black people come from then?

[00:05:31]>> Hold on. Mad moola. Mad moola. I'm so first things first. Let me address your points. Uh all life did not start in Africa. That is a theory. That's first of all. You're Somalian. Nobody in your family identifies as black and you know it.

[00:05:44]>> Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Hey, hey, hey. Y'all got to stay off y'all mics while I'm talking. Do not interrupt me while I'm speaking. What we not going to do is over talk each other. All right. Now, Mad Moola, >> you correct.

[00:05:56]>> Hey, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't interrupt me. Listen. Um, Ethiopia, the uh the colonizers like the Portuguese, even the French, um, they would and even the, uh, British would acknowledge you guys as Ethiopian. I'm I'm not done yet.

[00:06:12]Level with you right quick, right? But listen, this is what I al also need you to understand. We are FBAs. We are foundational black Americans and we are not African. We are not African. Okay?

[00:06:23]All life did not start in Africa. Now listen, let me make my point there.

[00:06:28]There there's this explorer and his name is Giovani, right? He he sailed for uh King, >> excuse me, he sailed for the for the for King uh Francis I of France and he sailed around North Carolina all the way up York and New Hampshire and Maine and places like that. And listen, he left a journal, okay? He wrote letters back to the king telling him what he saw, how he interacted with the people, and whether or not he traded with them, right? And so guess what? He wrote down how they looked. He described how they looked.

[00:07:06]You hear me? And he said that they were browns skinned and he said that they had thick hair. And he also said that we resembled Ethiopians.

[00:07:19]So, how can a European explorer in the year 1524 write back to the king of France and tell him that he saw people that look like Ethiopians in Africa?

[00:07:33]Huh? Can you tell me that?

[00:07:35]>> Of course.

[00:07:37]>> East Africa.

[00:07:38]>> Excuse me.

[00:07:39]>> You asked me a question, correct? Go >> ahead.

[00:07:42]>> You know, globalization, Africa had a long time way before the Europeans.

[00:07:49]You get me? So they know about us.

[00:07:51]>> Africans, y'all sailed. You said you did what? Before the European.

[00:07:53]>> Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm Somali. The horn of Africa. You used to say in China. What are you talking about, bro? You don't know about the history of Africa. So listen Yes, I do. You know nothing.

[00:08:02]>> Yes, I do, actually. So listen, listen.

[00:08:05]So So can you prove?

[00:08:08]Okay. So, so basically what you're saying is, can you prove that Ethiopians uh sailed over to Africa in the 1500s?

[00:08:18]>> Can you prove that?

[00:08:20]>> Come again.

[00:08:21]>> Can you prove that Ethiopians sailed to America in the 1500s?

[00:08:28]>> I can't prove my I don't know about to, but I know Somali sell to China.

[00:08:33]>> My point is, listen, I'm not I'm not doubting that you guys probably sell your coast and things like that. I mean, you guys did end up becoming pirates of the Caribbean, so to speak, right? But over in Africa, right? So, listen, here's my point. I don't think you get it. My point is, I'm trying to prove to you, I'm trying to show you that I have proof that we are not African, sir. If you take a look at this, if you take a look at the screen, family, like I said, there there is an explorer and his name is uh Giovani. He was Italian, right?

[00:09:02]Now, look uh like I said, he uh he sailed for the French. And I'm going to show you what he wrote inside of his journal. All right.

[00:09:13]This is what he wrote.

[00:09:14]>> America, bro.

[00:09:15]>> This is Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. We are indigenous. No. See, I I can prove it. I can prove that my people was here. And I can prove it right now.

[00:09:24]And that's why you keep interrupting.

[00:09:25]>> Prove it.

[00:09:26]>> Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Listen, listen. First of all, I can prove it.

[00:09:30]All right. Hold on. Let me show y'all something, family. Keep tapping the screen. I I can prove that we are indigenous to the United States of America. And it's really easy. It's really too easy to prove.

[00:09:44]Real talk. And I want to show y'all what he look like cuz a lot of y'all, matter of fact, I got it pull it up right here.

[00:09:54]So look at the screen.

[00:09:57]He said when we approach within a quarter of a league about one and matter of fact, I can show you. Hold on. Matter of fact, here I got something for y'all.

[00:10:07]Check it out. They think it's sweet.

[00:10:09]Hold on, family.

[00:10:13]One second. So, I want to show y'all something. All right.

[00:10:20]Now, first things first. This is from Verazzo. His name was Giovani Verazzo.

[00:10:25]Okay. Now, he sailed. Now, this this is the letter that he wrote to the king.

[00:10:32]Okay. Letter from Giovani Darzano to King Francis I July 1524.

[00:10:41]All right.

[00:10:43]It says the letter report of July 1524 in which the Florentine Giovani de Ver uh Verzano informs King Francis I King of France of the success obtained in his exploration voyage along the North American West Coast from South Carolina to Nova Scotia. Okay.

[00:11:02]Now listen, I'mma show y'all what he wrote.

[00:11:07]I can prove I can prove that we indigenous. And listen, since y'all don't listen to what FBA say, I'm going to show you what the European explorers said. Since y'all don't believe nothing that the FB say, these Europeans left accounts of who they ran into. Now listen, it starts right here. They said, "As we approached within a quarter of a league, about a mile and a half, we realized it was inhabited by huge fires, burning uh the beach. But we Hold on.

[00:11:34]Hold on. Wait." But we found neither a harbor nor a cow to anchor it and ended up dropping anchor offshore, sending the vessel ashore. We saw many people coming to the beach, but when they saw us approaching, they fled. So, some of our people ran. Now they tried to reassure us with gestures and some of them approached expressing great joy at seeing them appearing uh surprised by their clothing, their appearance and the color of their skin. They said they disembarked that mean they got off the boat and uh they said I will briefly tell your majesty what we learned about their lifestyle and customs. They go completely naked. We love Tik Tok shop.

[00:12:11]Uh, we cover their genitals with skins of small martin-like animals attached to narrow tightly woven grass belt with the tails of other animals which hang all around their body bodies reaching down to the knees. The rest of their bodies are kept bare including their heads.

[00:12:26]Some, however, wear garlands, bird feathers, blah blah blah. And listen and listen, look, I want you to read this right here. Some, however, wear garlands of bird feathers. They are brown in color. Not like not unlike the Ethiopians, blacks of equatorial Africa.

[00:12:45]You see that?

[00:12:47]Some however wear garlands of bird feathers. They are brown in color, not unlike the Ethiopians, blacks of a equatorial Africa. They have thick black hair, not very long, which they wear behind their heads in a ponytail. As for figure, they are well proportioned, medium height, sometimes taller than ours, with broad chest, robust arms, and well structured legs and other body parts. They have large black eyes and an alert, lively gaze. All right, this is what the European explorer said about what they saw when they got here. All right, and listen, I'm going to show you how how credible this source is.

[00:13:29]This is in the museum.

[00:13:32]Let me show you. You see this? This is in a museum in New York. This is from the ship Delphina, July 8, 1524.

[00:13:41]Uh from Giovani.

[00:13:45]Let me see. As per the manuscript kept at the Morgan Library in New York. If you don't believe me, you can call the library the so-called they called it the CEX.

[00:13:55]If you don't believe me, you can call up there. You can even go up there and go see it if you want to. They kept this copy. This paper is over 500 years old and they still have the letter. When we when we be telling y'all that we not African, we be meaning that [ __ ] I got receipts on this [ __ ] I know my people been here and it's just one of my sources. We've been here for a long ass time. So, think about it. And you know what's crazy? Um, he even went on to say that when they started trading with us that we had already been in contact with other Europeans, meaning we were there far before 1524. You got to think about it. Pon was down in Spain, right? So, um, they they probably were already in contact uh, going up the coast with them. Who's to say they weren't? You know what I'm saying? So, Spain was already here. So they was already used to dealing with these Europeans. We got real real scholarship on this [ __ ] We keep telling y'all that we not African G and we've been here for a long ass time.

[00:14:56]>> Mirror guy's name again.

[00:15:00]>> Hold on. You want to know his name? It's right here.

[00:15:02]>> Giovani.

[00:15:03]>> Yeah, I'm just right now factecking what you're saying.

[00:15:05]>> Yeah, I can fact check this.

[00:15:07]>> Look the the the website right here.

[00:15:10]This this is a.org website from from >> the museum.

[00:15:16]>> So basically what you're trying to refer even though Yeah. I mean listen >> and look and look let me show you something.

[00:15:22]>> Let me let me let me show you something.

[00:15:23]This this how serious it is. I'm going to refresh the page real quick and show you something. Did you see how the language just switched to Italian?

[00:15:32]This this wasn't even originally written in English. They had to translate it over to French and then uh and translate it. You feel me? Like this is real, G.

[00:15:44]This ain't this ain't no game.

[00:15:45]>> Can I get the euro? Like the website, please.

[00:15:49]>> Hold on.

[00:15:51]I'm giving you the website right now.

[00:15:53]That's the website. It's V E. I'm going to put it I'm going to put it in the chat. is v e r r a z a n o.org.

[00:16:06]Just type it in. You don't got to put in the slashes. But when it pop up, it's going to pop up in Italian. And you have to tell your computer to translate it into English.

[00:16:16]This is real. And and like I said, this is in a museum. This letter is over 500 years old. A European wrote about his accounts. Um, when they first came to America, as y'all know, um, the white Americans we know, they didn't get here first. First the Spanish got here and they established St. Augustine. Con Deon got here and then, uh, another guy came after him and established um, St. Augustine down in Florida. And then, uh, and that was in like 1585.

[00:16:47]Um, but uh, no, no, no, that was that was like the 1530s and then the French came, you know. So that's why like you see this guy. No, no, it was like 1513.

[00:16:58]Excuse me. And then and then the French ended up coming and he wrote this account in 1524. What's up, ma?

[00:17:05]>> Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. See, I'm Listen, I'm not over here denying the article. I'm still looking into it.

[00:17:11]So again, I'm going to take what you're saying with a grain of salt because I'm still doing my research.

[00:17:15]>> I mean I mean, if you looking at it, all you got to do is scroll down. Look, scroll down to this.

[00:17:19]>> Listen Listen, cuz you can look at it yourself. And I listen and when you real talk, hold on. This is in Italian. I want you to um I want you to scroll all the way down to the bottom and I want you to see where where where this says this is in the museum. And matter of fact, I got another source for you. Hold on. On him.

[00:17:35]Matter of fact, I think it was. And look, this is another uh source on him right here.

[00:17:41]>> And this is from >> I actually have a question.

[00:17:44]>> This is for you. So, okay. I'm not forget forget about the letter for a second. Do you believe that African not African black people were here first or do you believe that the natives were here first?

[00:17:56]>> Uh we was here definitely.

[00:17:58]>> You guys were here before the Native Americans.

[00:17:59]>> Hell yeah. They c they crossed the ice bridge to get here.

[00:18:03]>> Ma'am ma'am. They wasn't even called Native Americans.

[00:18:06]>> Indigenous. That's what they're called.

[00:18:08]>> No, they're not. They call them Native Americans.

[00:18:10]>> They're calling them Native Americans, but that wasn't their original name. It was the Eskimos.

[00:18:17]So look um so yeah we uh to answer your question because um you can't you can't uh you can't deny what I just showed you.

[00:18:24]>> You know that was just a habit right?

[00:18:26]>> Excuse me.

[00:18:28]>> That was just a habit. Like the Europeans used to compare people to the Moors and to the Ethiopians that were darker than them. Like even historians will deny the fact that they were black.

[00:18:39]>> Ma'am he didn't directly do that ma'am.

[00:18:42]A Somalian just came from up here and said that they he he time out time out.

[00:18:46]He equated black with Ethiopian. Listen, it's true that those Europeans and a lot of them even even uh the the Portuguese used to call them Ethiopians or they called them uh uh they call Africa alabulon. They had different names. They compared sometimes they would call them more. Ma'am, listen. They he described exactly what we saw. Listen, the native Americans that you see of today, they are not brown. They are of a different color. Okay, everybody know the difference then between brown and a red native. Okay, we not gonna uh that's a straw man argument. Like I said, this is in the museum. A European explorer wrote this since y'all don't believe nothing FBA say go to the museum and you can go see it yourself. The website is legit.

[00:19:27]It comes from that's the museum's website. All right.

[00:19:32]>> Instead, I put the emblem of America.

[00:19:34]So, I put that up because the emblem of America is literally a black American woman. You know that, right?

[00:19:41]>> Oh my god. Listen, that that man did not >> Yasmin. Yasmin. But hold on because you interrupted real quick and hold on. Give me one second. But Merror asked a question and actually we've been waiting to talk for a second cuz I was restricted. Mera, you asked if we was here before the Native Americans. My answer is yes.

[00:19:59]My question is, do you think we was here before the Native Americans?

[00:20:04]>> I believe the Native Americans were here first.

[00:20:06]>> How'd they get here?

[00:20:08]Weren't they indigenous people of this land until the Europeans came in and colonized?

[00:20:13]>> No.

[00:20:14]>> No.

[00:20:15]>> You're saying what we learned in like history was >> they were here 15,000 years ago.

[00:20:19]>> So So here's the thing. Here's the thing.

[00:20:23]Um we were here before them. Okay. Um there are mounds here, right?

[00:20:32]There are mounds here >> in uh in the USA. Do you guys know what mounds are? Are you familiar with mounds?

[00:20:41]>> Mhm.

[00:20:42]>> Okay. So, mounds are uh they they are I'mma show you guys just in case. So, I'm going to put it like this. Let me show you some mounds.

[00:20:52]Okay. Boom. This right here, this right here is a mound. Okay. Now, they used to say, now they there's this narrative that the the Native Americans built all of these mounds. They built all of these mounds, right? But here's the thing. Um, sometimes they excavated these things and, uh, they would find artifacts under them. So, uh, they excavated, um, a mound out they were excavating mounds out in Ohio and, um, they found artifacts with Hebrew scriptures in them, right? And that's very significant because Native Americans do not speak Hebrew. You hear me, Mera?

[00:21:34]Nope. There's not one Native American tribe in America that speaks Hebrew. You can Google that right now if you don't believe me. You can fact check everything I'm saying. I be doing my homework. I don't just be on this app talking. So, look, here's the thing.

[00:21:48]Also, we have people from the Shauny tribe who admitted that when they uh uh im like migrated down to Ohio, um where the Hopewell uh co culture was that uh the mounds were already there and that they did not build them. I have a source on that as well.

[00:22:09]Mhm. Hold on. I have a source on this as well.

[00:22:14]They said they did not build them. So, if you take a I'm going to turn off the comments real quick, y'all. So, um so they can see this. Just keep tapping the screen. Just bear with me real quick.

[00:22:25]So, uh this is the Hopewell culture. Um let me see. I'm going to get right to where it says it at. Um let me see.

[00:22:44]So, it says in the 1840s. Let me see.

[00:22:48]Yep, it's right here. So, look, it's at the top. We going to start at the top, right? I'm just show you real quick. Um, now it says mounds and earthworks along the Scotio River. Uh, no doubt the work of many uh human mounds make us wonder who made them, how long have they stood, what role did they play in the lives of their builders? Beginning in the 1700s, settlers from the eastern states migrating to the Ohio Valley found hundreds of mounds and earthworks. The Shaune and other American Indian peoples of the region apparently knew little of the builders. Do you see that in the second paragraph?

[00:23:21]The Shauny Indians are a tribe here and there were other tribes with them who were also American Indians. And they when they got to the region, when they migrated down there, it said that they knew little of the builders. These mounds were already here. There are mounds all over the United States of America. Okay.

[00:23:36]>> You know there are like seven major tribes, right?

[00:23:39]>> No, hold on one second. Hold on. Hold on. Because we we got to stick to the scholarship. Ma'am, so look, they said that uh many married uh wait, they said many tried to solve the mystery of the mounds. Some thought that the mound builders must be a lost race who banished before the Indians or historic times arrived. Okay, listen. And this is what the Shauni tribe and other tribes admitted themselves. So if the Native Americans were here and they were building all of these mounds, why is it that when they got down here to Ohio um as the hope with the hope culture people and they didn't know who built these mounds?

[00:24:18]>> With that being said, do you also discredit the fact that um black people were just not a part of slavery at that because then what what you're saying is that they were already in America. How could they be slaves when the European grabbed the Europe the people from Africa to be slaves?

[00:24:33]>> No, actually I don't deny that the slave trade happened. It did. I believe that it did happen, but I just don't believe that it happened the way that they say it happened. Um they used to say lie and say that millions of slaves came here to America, but that is not true. At the most it was about 388,000.

[00:24:49]That's the max number uh that we see nowadays. Um, and and you know, but there were way more, >> you know, for the >> M.

[00:24:59]Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Time out.

[00:25:00]Time out because I have to I have to say this real quick. Um, so when they got here, there were already millions of people here.

[00:25:12]Okay, there were already millions of people here. Okay, now take a look at the screen. Everybody take a look at the screen. Okay. Um because a lot of people don't pay attention to this. Um so when we tell people that hey we were already here in this country um like I said I can prove from European accounts that indigenous people were already here and all of them did not look like the quote unquote red natives. Not only that I got scholarship from the Indians saying that they did not know who built these mounds. Also if they built mounds why don't they build them today? Because they didn't [ __ ] build them. They crossed the damn ice bridge and got here. But anyway, when the Europeans got here, um, nobody nobody ever asked how many uh, indigenous people were here.

[00:25:55]So, look, there isn't a a single agreed upon number because pre-cont population estimates are reconstructed from archaeology, early colonial records, and uh, uh, oh my god, ecological uh, modeling. And those methods get very different results. But for what it is now, the territory of the US, most modern historical scholarship generally falls into a range rather than a single figure. Uh commonly cited estimates, what scholars usually say today, they're saying that there were already 2 to three million people here before the Europeans got here. Okay, that's the lowend estimate. The middle uh common academic range is 5 to 7 million. Okay.

[00:26:35]And then the higher estimates are up are in between up um 10 and 18 million people. Um the re so you know that's those are the numbers. You know you can pick whatever numbers comfortable with you but there were people millions of people here before they got here. And for millions of people to be in this land before European contact, that means that they had to have been here for at least 250 years, I would say, in this country at least. So if the Europeans got here in let's just say 1500, that mean that our people been here since at least 143 at least. I would say the year 1250 or before.

[00:27:19]>> Hey, can I address the mounds?

[00:27:21]>> Go ahead.

[00:27:23]um what you said um there were like mound cities, right, that were that the natives couldn't that the natives didn't recognize, right? Or >> that's what you said, right?

[00:27:33]>> That that's what the scholarship says on the screen.

[00:27:36]>> The thing is a lot of those mounds were abandoned for hundreds of years because the populations kept moving. So that doesn't go to show that other uh you know, races were here before. It just goes to show that you know it was abandoned and then some natives forgot about it. But there are um there is proof that it was built by natives.

[00:27:56]>> So um so first things first, let's say somebody abandons the civilization where the mounds are, right? How can we find further evidence that someone was here?

[00:28:07]How can we find out who these people are? Right? That's why they esavate, right? So listen, this out in Ohio, what we're talking about is the Hopewell culture. We're talking about the hope culture because uh the Shauny Indians and other tribes in that region, they admit that they do not know who built their mounds in this second um paragraph right here. Okay? Now, with that being said, I want you to hear something. When they started excavating these mounds, they found the Newark stones. Okay? The Newark stones uh have Hebrew inscriptions in them. I'm sorry. They have Hebrew inscriptions in them and no Native Americans speak Hebrew. How can you build burial mounds and and have Hebrew artifacts and inscriptions and you don't even speak that language? Uh the native quote unquote Native Americans that we see here in America, they speak Algangquin languages. Okay?

[00:29:04]They don't speak Hebrew. They speak different versions of Alangquin languages depending on where they're at.

[00:29:10]out here in um Illinois in the suburbs.

[00:29:13]We have a place called Algangquin, Illinois. There are streets called Al Gangquin. You know, it's a Midwest thing. But bottom line is um here are the artifacts. Okay. Like we I got real scholarship on this [ __ ] Like we don't just be talking. Hold on. Um these are the Newark holy stones right here.

[00:29:32]Okay. Um and this this is when they started excavating they found these in the middle of the civilization. Okay.

[00:29:41]They found it under a mound. These are the Newark holy stones. All right. Uh they are a group of 19th century artifacts purportedly discovered in the earthworks a prehistoric mound in the Hopewell culture. You see where it says Hopewell culture in Ohio? That's why you keep hearing me talk about the Hopewell culture because this is where they found these. Think about it. The Shauni said that they don't know who built these mounds. And then when they excavate, they find artifacts with Hebrew inscriptions in them. Okay. Our people were already here and we are of the belief that our people were speaking Hebrew. Um uh and of course we were stripped of our language and made to speak English um you know during colonization. Hold on. Hold on. Time out. Time out. Hold on. Time out. And I also believe that some of our people maybe spoke Alangquin languages, maybe to uh learn how to trade with the the people that were there use it as some type of merchant language. Um you know, learn how to uh you know, uh talk with other tribes. And also there are of accounts of melanated people uh being with these European explorers so that they could translate. Um so black people, melanated people have been all over the world like we can prove that we are indigenous.

[00:30:51]>> Uh yeah, go ahead.

[00:30:53]Um, the thing is like this has been proven to be from the 19th century. Like the stones. Do you have any proof that they were here before the 19th century?

[00:31:02]If you can give me that, then I mean we can go off of that. But >> ma'am, the 19th century, this is when they discovered it. They discovered it.

[00:31:12]>> Yeah.

[00:31:13]>> In the 19th century, ma'am, it was there far before that. Listen, hold on. Hold on. And these are the other What do you mean? How do you know it? It's right here on the screen. It says they discovered it in 1860 and 1861. It's right on the screen.

[00:31:25]>> I don't see I don't see know what a 19th century is.

[00:31:29]>> Yeah, ma'am. These these been around before that.

[00:31:34]>> Ma'am, wait. Time out. Time out. It says the Newark stones are a group of 19th century uh trans artifacts reportedly discovered in the Newark earthworks. A a prehistoric mound complex. How can it be prehistoric if it if it's the 19th century? Come on, ma'am. Those been there for a long time. They found them in the 19th century.

[00:31:53]>> What's your evidence though that black people >> Okay. Okay. Okay.

[00:31:58]>> Wait. Well, hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

[00:32:00]Mera. Yeah. What's up?

[00:32:02]>> Yeah. My thing is, do you want to refer to black people? Is it okay if I say black people?

[00:32:08]>> What? What do you mean? Just go ahead and speak.

[00:32:10]>> My thing My thing is, what is your evidence that black people were speaking Hebrew during this time?

[00:32:14]>> I just told you.

[00:32:16]>> But what's your evidence on that?

[00:32:18]because you could tell anybody anything but evidence because the native because the native Americans did not speak Hebrew.

[00:32:24]>> So with that being said, that makes it equal to black people speaking Hebrew during that time.

[00:32:29]>> Yes. Yes.

[00:32:32]>> You you think black people during the time were speaking Hebrew in this nation?

[00:32:36]>> Yes.

[00:32:37]>> Yeah. You do know most of the indig >> What's your evidence on that? Majority of the indigenous archaeologist wait you do know that the indigenous languages before they were changed by a white tea man a linguist that they were all they allations >> Hebraic >> in origin you do know that right >> before a white tea man in Europe he was from Britain he was a linguist he gave y'all y'all languages and changed the words and took out words that he wanted to take out that the original languages had Hebraic origin all of the tribes, the languages. If you think that you're a Native American today and you speak the languages, you're speaking a language that a colonizer gave you and created for you, not the original language.

[00:33:27]If >> if I could build off, what is the what's the point? Why does it matter to y'all so much to prove that? How about to to prove what you're trying to prove? Even though the history, the facts is going against your narrative. Like why does it matter to you so much? Because regardless regardless if you believe we in business or not, that doesn't matter to y'all.

[00:33:50]>> Why do it matter for us to identify with you?

[00:33:54]>> No, you don't have to identify with me cuz listen, right? I'm not even like even if I were to say you're African, which I mean I'm not saying that. Um you're not even from my region, but like I am trying to fact check this and everything that you've told me so far.

[00:34:07]Why does it matter?

[00:34:08]>> Wait, wait, wait. Prime crime wrong. You say everything we told you so far. What?

[00:34:11]>> Like I've been able to fact check it.

[00:34:14]>> And And are we Am I lying?

[00:34:16]>> Nobody said I think you're just a little bit misinformed on something.

[00:34:22]>> How Okay. How am I >> The stones that you told me about like all the archaeologists say that there's no It's basically a hoax. You know what I mean? There's nothing um with these things that connect them to anything else that would tell us that it's like something ancient.

[00:34:37]>> So So here's the thing. Here's the thing. These people have been trying to erase our identity since they've come in contact with us because they know exactly who we are and we are not Africans. They know exactly who we are, right? So of course if they find uh something artifact under a mound and look, think about it. the Native Americans told the Europeans that they didn't discover this, right? So, if if they tell the Europeans this, the Europeans can't claim it cuz they're not indigenous. You know what that means?

[00:35:07]That means that uh we built it. You feel me? And and of course, they're going to say, "Oh, no, it's a hoax." They're going to write it off as a hoax because they know that that's a smoke and pew pew. Listen, and there are other places in the USA, they actually have other Hebrew uh artifacts and inscriptions. If you look at the screen and they try to write them off off as all hoaxes. Um, also right here the the the lun uh decalog stone. This is at the bottom the side of a of a a mountain. This is another one with with it got like uh some of the ten commandments in it. So this is uh in Bat Creek stone in Tennessee. Also there are other um there are other there's other proof that there were Hebrew um other Hebrew artifacts and things like that here as well. Um, and then you got Batcrete Stone right here. You got Batcree Stone. This was another small inscribed tablet um with Hebrew um scriptures in it as well. So, if the Native Americans were not speaking Hebrew in this country, who was here before them speaking Hebrew? And think about it. If these people lived amongst people that spoke Hebrew, how did that how did they not know the language? How do you not know the language? How can you not know your neighbor or trade with the person who's on the other side of the town from you?

[00:36:24]Because these people did have confederacies as well. If you think about the Pawan uh confederacy, they had 30 different um tribes under their confederacy. So these people all uh lived and spoke all these different algangan languages. Why is it that they did not speak Hebrew?

[00:36:41]>> Can that's because we were here before them. This is another artifact in Bat Creek stone. But make it make sense though. We was here before them.

[00:36:50]>> Can I also say this? I just fact checked what you said. You're not completely wrong. Okay. But my thing is I also just searched it up. There are some Africans, African nations such as Ethiopia, Morocco, Liberia, beta, Israel that all have Jewish traditions and also all speak Hebrew. They're supposed the Ethiopians do never spoke Hebrew.

[00:37:13]That's a lie.

[00:37:14]>> No, because I'm going to let I'm not going to let you lie. I just searched.

[00:37:17]>> No, no, no, no, no, no. They're not all They're not all connected to the Hebrews. There's only one specific tribe that is connected and that is through birth.

[00:37:27]>> One of their They're descendants of Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. No, because we're not going to lie. But they've never spoken.

[00:37:33]>> I mean, but how do you know if I'm lying if I >> Because I know what you're talking about. No, you're not going to lie.

[00:37:38]>> How do you know?

[00:37:39]>> Because it's in it's in the Bible. It's in the Bible. You You understand that Sheba and Solomon both got together and they had a son. Mirror, mirror, mirror, let us speak. Let us speak. You going to have a chance to speak.

[00:37:53]>> But I was I was really speaking.

[00:37:56]>> They both got together and that line that Devidic line did travel and it did come. Even Haley Celelesi is a part of that line. But you're not going to lie, they never spoke Hebrew. They do keep some of the traditions, but they are not part of the They are not Hebrews.

[00:38:13]They're not Hebrews.

[00:38:14]>> They're by They're by ethnics.

[00:38:17]>> And plus and m and plus, like I said, there's no evidence of the e of the Ethiopians selling here. If if it is, bring the scholarship, bring the books, bring the articles, and we can compare notes. But listen, if you take a look at the screen, I asked the chat GPT, did Native Americans speak Hebrew? And there are a lot of tribes here, right?

[00:38:35]>> Can you search this up?

[00:38:37]>> What time? Hold on. It says, hold on, wait, wait, wait. Let me finish. It says there's no credible historical or linguistic evidence that Native Americans broadly spoke Hebrew before European contact.

[00:38:48]>> So, so time out. They were not here speaking the language. Also, look in inside of our black American churches.

[00:38:55]>> Our people wrote in Hebrew scriptures on the pews in Can you explain this?

[00:39:01]>> This is one of the first churches that exist in America and it's been here since before America was founded. And this is Hebrew cursive.

[00:39:14]Did nobody teach us how to speak it?

[00:39:16]>> The stones. Listen guys, the >> this is Hebrew cursive. And this is exact. We taught our We already knew how to speak this. It was passed down.

[00:39:23]Nobody taught us how to speak Hebrew.

[00:39:28]>> Can I talk about the writing on the stone?

[00:39:31]>> Go ahead. Say what you got to say. But this is >> the reason why our Yeah. Uh this this uh this Hebrews inscriptions on these pews uh inc is this one of the oldest uh black American churches also?

[00:39:42]>> Yes, it is.

[00:39:44]>> Yeah. So, our oldest black American church has Hebrew um inscriptions in it as well. We we've been speaking this language for a long time and and as you guys know, and I think you would agree, they stripped us of our language when we got here and gave us English. Okay? And that's why we speak English today. Um go ahead. Uh yes, keep tapping the screen, y'all. Thank y'all for being here.

[00:40:05]>> The reason why archaeologists reject that these stones are ancient is because I mean it wasn't even found in soil.

[00:40:12]Usually when something is ancient like it'll be under layers layers of soil.

[00:40:17]That's like one fact. Um the second fact is the tool. When um back then writing was different like you would write with different tools. Nowadays the tools are very how do I say sharper. So they so when archaeologists studied this they were like this looks like modernday Hebrew. That's why they rejected the stones. It's not because they thought that black people wrote it.

[00:40:39]>> Yeah. Yes, it is. Everything they've been doing. Try Listen, we are the most reclassified people in this earth on this earth. So, that's first things foremost. You don't see them trying to constantly uh reclassify Nigerian tribes or Somalian tribes or Ethiopian tribes.

[00:40:53]They keep reclassifying black Americans.

[00:40:56]We went from Indian to Negro to colored to black to African-American. And now that we redefining oursel, everybody got their panties in a bunch. Listen, let me tell you something. Just be you don't have to find an artifact under the ground to uh give it credibility. Look at the pyramids over in Egypt. They sitting on top of the ground and and they it's it's considered ancient. So you don't have to bury something for it to be considered ancient. Come on now.

[00:41:22]That that was too easy. You making it too easy now. So So here's the thing.

[00:41:27]You know, how about this? How about this guys? Um, let me ask y'all a question because the What do y'all think of these people right here? Are they Africa?

[00:41:37]These are the people from North Sentinel Island. Keep tapping the screen, y'all.

[00:41:41]Keep tapping the screen. Repost out the loud. Let's get some more repost going.

[00:41:44]These are the people from North Sentinel Island. Do you guys think that they are African, too, Mirror?

[00:41:51]>> Nope. Nope, they're not.

[00:41:53]>> I respectfully don't think I'm going to answer that because you haven't been letting me speak without me being cut off by you or your co-host.

[00:41:58]>> Okay. Well, well, okay. Well, Yasmin, hold on. We We'll come to you. So, Yasmin, um, >> No, they're not African. Why? Why?