Arguing With the Swedish Chef

[00:00:08]For example, you believe in evolution.

[00:00:10]Yeah, I have.

[00:00:12]>> Yes, I'm aware of the overwhelming amount of scientific evidence that says evolution is true. Yes.

[00:00:18]>> Okay, then answer me this. Who created the first cell?

[00:00:23]>> Uh, the first ever. There's no reason to think that a person or an agent created the first cell.

[00:00:33]>> What? So what do you believe?

[00:00:36]>> That life uh naturally appeared through chemical processes. So what made the first cell exist is chemistry, which is exactly the same process that makes it possible for cells to continue existing ever since they showed up on this planet.

[00:00:54]Yeah, man. But that doesn't account for consciousness.

[00:00:58]>> Yes, it does.

[00:01:02]>> Consciousness is not a chemical process, man.

[00:01:05]>> It just very obviously is the product of chemical processes. In fact, you can add chemical, you can change the chemical processes of a conscious being and it alters their consciousness.

[00:01:21]the all every single thing. We don't know like precisely how it happens, but every single thing we know about consciousness just very clearly um supports that it has a physical source.

[00:01:39]>> Yeah. but is rather connected to the feeling rather I think more the chemical involved in that they submit to the process rather the than the other way around that the process is dictated by the chemicals you know what I mean >> if the process is dictated by the chemicals then that's a physical state dictating the conscious experience which is exactly what I said is happening No, no, no. I'm saying that uh rather the process it's dictate dictating the chemicals, not the other way around.

[00:02:19]>> Give an example of that happening.

[00:02:22]>> Like for example, yeah, feeling sad. Yeah. feeling sad that changes the uh neurotransmitters in your body, you know, and um instead like for example, it's increasing the >> it's literally the other way around.

[00:02:43]>> You can't feel anything until after the neurotransmitters have uh crossed the synapses in in uh in whatever concentration they do. You only feel things after that's happened.

[00:03:04]>> That's what I'm saying, man.

[00:03:05]>> No, you're saying the opposite. You're saying you feel sad and then the neurotransmitters and then and then you get less dopamine. No, it's literally the other way around.

[00:03:16]>> Now, thanks to negative feedback a lot of the times or just it's not even negative feedback, it's just general homeostasis. about which pretty much is negative feedback, but whatever. But just thanks to general homeostasis, uh the feelings of being sad usually goes away because that's not what your baseline uh that's not what your baseline state is. But your sad the emotional experience of being sad didn't turn you into not sad. The only thing that can make that possible is whatever the relative ratios of those neurotransmitters going back and forth is.

[00:03:55]>> Yeah. But what makes those neurotransmitters go back and forth?

[00:04:00]>> Chemistry.

[00:04:01]>> Cuz I Well, what chemistry? Because this chemistry does not appear before you experience the the >> Yes, it it 100% does.

[00:04:11]>> I disagree.

[00:04:12]>> Well, then you don't know anything. I don't know what to tell you. You know that you know that we create medications for this, right?

[00:04:20]>> You know that we create medications for this, right?

[00:04:24]>> And the only thing the medications do inhibitors >> is they >> uh there are inhibitors and there are re-uptake Yeah. re-uptake inhibitor.

[00:04:34]Yeah. And an an SSRI or whatever. Yeah.

[00:04:37]the the only thing that the medication does is it um interacts and interferes or whatever with binding sites on cell membranes to change the chemistry.

[00:04:50]>> I know the process, man. I know the process.

[00:04:53]>> Clearly not because >> well then you don't understand it.

[00:04:58]>> The only thing the medication does is alter the chemical imbalance that you have. It can't alter your mood external factor.

[00:05:07]>> It can't alter your mood unless it's an external factor.

[00:05:11]>> Unless it changes the chemical balance. So the chemical balance is what changes the mood which is to say alters the conscious experience.

[00:05:24]>> Yes, man. There it's a connection.

[00:05:26]>> Then everything you're saying is wrong.

[00:05:27]>> What I'm concentrating on. No, my >> can't agree with me and come out of this conversation ahead >> because because it's you know there is a connection between neurotransmitters and feelings. There is a report but what I'm cons what I'm uh stating is that the the chemical um reaction happens as a result to the feeling to the experience per se. Well, not a single scientist that works on this would agree with you >> all the time, >> buddy. Why do people need Why do people even need the medication? Why don't the people just go, "Hey, you quit being so sadry all the time and then and then they just >> not all the we're not equal, man." Okay, there are people.

[00:06:17]>> So then why do they need what does the medication do then? Listen.

[00:06:22]So the answer because not everybody is capable.

[00:06:25]>> What does the medication do?

[00:06:29]>> It alters your biochemistry >> and then what happens?

[00:06:34]>> And then you experience u >> so chemistry first and then you get results. Thank you. That's what I've been saying the whole time.

[00:06:44]>> It's like smoke you It's like if you get high if you smoke weed, of course you'll get high. It's an external factor.

[00:06:51]Consciousness is not an external factor.

[00:06:54]>> It's self-driven. It's internally driven.

[00:06:58]>> It's exactly medication. It's external.

[00:07:02]>> So that's my point.

[00:07:05]>> No, it isn't your point. Everything you've argued >> Okay. Okay.

[00:07:09]>> Everything that you've argued is demonstrably false.

[00:07:13]>> Okay, man. Fine. Fine. Fine. uh that what you said earlier with science brings me to the second point uh that the big bang theory yeah so big bang >> yeah the thing that countless scientists have been able to prove countless times yes is false according to you because >> no they assume I'm not saying it's false I'm just asking because >> could you could you tell me something that requires There's no assumptions.

[00:07:46]I'd love to know what these things are.

[00:07:52]>> Something that No, of course. Everything assumption it's a >> Okay. So, every single idea is >> Okay. So, now apply this to every single thing you believe in.

[00:08:04]>> No, >> instead of selectively applying it, apply it to everything you believe in.

[00:08:09]I can't because assumptions it's select it's selective you understand because first you start with the assumption and this then if the fact corroborated Yeah. then your assumption could be wrong or could be right.

[00:08:30]>> Yeah. And what's the best way we've ever figured out for testing if our assumptions are true? I'll help you out.

[00:08:35]The answer is science.

[00:08:38]>> Man, science can't prove everything.

[00:08:42]>> Yeah. So, that would almost be an interesting thing to say if I had asked you if science can prove everything, but I didn't. What I asked you was, what's the best method we've ever come up with for testing our assumptions?

[00:08:59]>> Experiments.

[00:09:01]>> So, science.

[00:09:03]>> Yeah.

[00:09:04]>> Okay. The Big Banglience and they're not separated.

[00:09:08]>> The Big Bang is science. So according to you, it's part of the process. That's the best process we've ever invented for figuring out if our assumptions are true. So therefore, because the Big Bang is a scientific idea, it's one of the kind of ideas that you should believe in with the utmost confidence.

[00:09:30]>> So it's it's a theory, you understand?

[00:09:33]is not a fact. It's different.

[00:09:35]>> No, those are the same thing. A scientific theory is a fact. You're thinking of a hypothesis.

[00:09:42]>> Yes, it is. Does the Earth orbit the Sun?

[00:09:46]>> That's not a theory.

[00:09:47]>> Yes, it is. It's called heliocentric theory.

[00:09:53]Do atoms exist?

[00:09:56]>> That's a fact.

[00:09:57]>> It's called atomic theory.

[00:10:00]>> No. This is >> Do earthquakes happen?

[00:10:04]It started >> do earthquakes happen theory. It started >> it started as many different hypotheses and the proven hypothesis are the body of knowledge that is the theory.

[00:10:17]>> Yeah. But be bang started also as a theory but it was never >> No, it started off No, it started off as observations that all the farthest away galaxies are redshifted. We now know with as much certainty >> how much of the of the universe would do we >> we now know with as much certainty that earth orbits the sun that the universe is expanding. That's what the big bang is now.

[00:10:43]>> Okay.

[00:10:44]>> Do you disagree that we live in an expanding universe?

[00:10:54]>> You're muted right now. Sorry about that. Do you do you agree that we live in an expanding universe?

[00:10:59]>> It's a possibility.

[00:11:01]>> Do you agree that all of the scientific data says that we live in an expanding universe?

[00:11:09]>> The scientific data that we are able to gather from um our >> Let me ask you a different question.

[00:11:20]>> Observation. Why do you think scientists >> Why do you think scientists think the Big Bang is true?

[00:11:29]>> See, I think I'm going to exit this uh life because it's man. You don't need people.

[00:11:34]>> Why do you think that scientists think the Big Bang is true?

[00:11:39]>> Goodbye, >> coward.

[00:11:43]Well, sorry. You're not a coward. You're an idiot. Or sorry, you're you're a cowardly idiot. There we go. Get a free book, two free audio books, and add free videos by becoming a Patreon member.