Bunyoro’s Oil Boom: Jobs, Billions & The Big Questions || April 27, 2026

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[00:00:00]oil, the infrastructure and the investment frontier uh reshaping the future of Uganda. And later on, you'll be participating. You'll be given an opportunity to participate. Uh the number will be displayed right on your screen. While on set to unpack this particular conversation, I'm happy to be joined by the state minister affairs. I understand this ministry was created specifically for the bonoro to benefit.

[00:00:24]uh before we get into a conversation maybe just letting the viewer get to understand as how the ministry came into existence. Uh maybe >> is it true that was left behind >> before that sandra?

[00:00:37]>> I want to appreciate all the Ugandans who came to support us during the bur of our chairman Peter Banura, >> the chairman Chiku who passed away recently in an accident.

[00:00:56]We stand with all the people of Moro. It was very very unfortunate.

[00:01:01]And secondly is to thank the people ofu for voting for president 7 massively.

[00:01:10]We want to thank everybody for really supporting DN and not only voting for President but M generally including our prime minister.

[00:01:23]>> Mhm. My boss uh Boro as a ministry is a baby of President because generally was disadvantaged marginalized since the colonial time. So when president came to power, he came up with an affirmative uh action for sub region.

[00:01:55]And in this affirmative action in addition to what the government provides for every local government, Boro gets a bonus and this is done through the ministry of Bora affairs. That's how as a ministry came into existence and I am the second minister. Previously it was occupied by the minister was honorable Kiza Ernest was there for about 9 years. So I also came in I've been there for the last 5 years.

[00:02:36]Yes. Well, you spoke about um uh the Bonora affairs as an affirmative action program in the office of the prime minister. Uh what makes Bonor an affirmative action area and what is your role or mandate as the ministry? As a a ministry and a minister as such, my mandate is mainly to coordinate all the development programs within Wuro but also to lobby for them >> to identify the gaps to monitor to supervise >> and also to supplement the development efforts within that sub region as we shall be seeing data.

[00:03:21]>> Mhm. So basically I work with all the local governments to ensure that if there are any issues be it health, water, education I I bring it to the attention of the line ministry but also to the head of state to cabinet >> and we lo together and I am really pleased that I work with the prime minister who hails from Boru. So some of these things I bring to our attention and we move together as a team >> to lobby or to bring the issue to the attention of the president. For example, when I just come in, there was an outstanding issue of nan payments to the tobacco farmers inu.

[00:04:13]People had gone into tobacco farming and supplied their tobacco to some companies continental and some other company and these companies failed to pay. But when we worked as a team, the prime minister, the members of parliament, as a caucus brought it to the attention of the president was able to come in as government and the president cleared that money, paid the farmers, >> Boro public university. We just had a delegation led by the prime minister to the president and the only issue that we put across waso public university and it was granted.

[00:05:00]So we have been able to move and I can tell you Sandra as a sub region has got a lion's share in this town.

[00:05:11]>> Mhm. Talk about the roads. You can move from one local government from Chirandongu.

[00:05:19]You go through Mindi. You go to Bulisa.

[00:05:23]You come to Ha city. You go through Ha district to Chiku Kagadi Chibal Kakum.

[00:05:31]All on Tamak >> and you can choose to come back using another route but all on Tamak. Talk about the international airport Kawarega.

[00:05:41]It has been built in this town. Talk about the stadium.

[00:05:47]It has and we are now looking forward to hosting AFCON. Everybody is excited about the oil and gas. All these things are inu and it's a beautiful area >> with very very hostable people.

[00:06:03]So basically the ministry has its own achievements because the president in addition gave us a budget. It may not be very big but in this budget we have been able to support the population.

[00:06:21]We have been able to support the population. We have what they call micro projects where people form themselves into smaller groups. Five women, youth persons with disability, the men and the president guided us. We give them money as grants.

[00:06:40]They don't refund that money. People get 2 million, 3 million, 5 million, 10 million depending on your need. But we have also had the issue of institutions like the schools.

[00:06:57]Most of the schools had been built during either colonial time or thereafter.

[00:07:04]And these are long buildings. You find one building with all the classrooms, the office, the store, they all on one building. It's like a train but with old iron sheets.

[00:07:19]So we have been able to give them iron sheets and roof their schools. can talk about Windi Church of Uganda Primary School, Kakiindo, Duhaga Boys in Homa City, Kagadi Modo in Kagadi, uh St. Bernard in Kakumiro so many actually the local government has benefited even religious institutions talk about is a Catholic church which got close to 1,500 iron sheets very huge talk about city sda church they all benefited and many other churches is they have benefited >> Ha city Ha district and for me when I came in the first thing I thought of is equity whatever program that we get we must distribute equally in all the 10 local governments we have also given and them coffee.

[00:08:36]>> Mhm.

[00:08:38]>> We have supported the coffee nursery farmers.

[00:08:41]Why are we doing this? You are aware the president has guided the country, especially people with small land holdings, 4 acres and below. And majority of our people there, those who were in tobacco, some have now moved into sugar cane. And yet some of them have smaller lands maze and during the peach season the maze prices go down. So we encouraging them to grow coffee and they have very fatile land. So what we did as a ministry was to pick at least one or two nursery cafe operators or coco and we moved in every constituency supported them with money at least 9.4 4 million per nurs and this was basically to support them have the quality coffee seedlings but also create employment because when you're operating a coffee nursery bed you need a number of people to work with but also making sure that these seedlings are available as a planting stock to the farmers in a close proximity >> but I've also given even out to hers to the people.

[00:10:11]So we encouraging them to do zero grazing to have quality animals but also sell their milk and improve their livelihood the nutrition.

[00:10:25]We have also gone ahead to give them hoes.

[00:10:30]You know, initially I thought holes is something that is affordable but some households it is a real real need.

[00:10:42]So previously we were giving them holes through their MPs but later we chose the we we we changed the guidelines and decided to give the holes through the accounting officers.

[00:10:59]So we give out the holes to a district and then they use their structures of leaders to make sure that they give them out to the beneficiaries. Well, I appreciate the fact that uh so much attention has been given to the sub region itself and uh the way you're citing out all the areas that you've put focus on to and the interventions that have been put in place by government.

[00:11:24]But how come some people still do complain that the impact is still minimal uh in regards to those interventions that they're a bit limited? How come we have that going on among some of the Ugandans? Maybe I'll just let the assistant commissioner here Mr. Noat to handle that particular one.

[00:11:43]>> Thank you Sandra.

[00:11:45]>> Uh you need to it's true we've government has done a lot of interventions. If you see a lot, we have PDM, we have Moga, >> even the Ministry of Affairs as an affirmative action program has also done a lot of interventions in the area. But perhaps there could be some communication gap.

[00:12:08]>> A lot can be done and when that because of that gap of communication, some people will feel they are not feeling the impact of what is being done. So we can know that that can be perhaps the reason or there's also high expectation especially having the the region having been gotten to have oil people they expect faster and quick development but the process is coming up and we are trying to address some of these issues and one of them is we are we are intensifying mobilization >> and of our communities so that they are able to appreciate what is being done, what has been implemented, what has been invested in the area and for people to know, you know, if you do something and you don't drum it, sometimes people don't appreciate it. We and we tend to as human beings, we tend to take things for granted, things when we see them in our areas all the time, >> unless somebody keeps talking about it.

[00:13:10]That's why you see some people continue to advertise every day but government is not sometimes we are not good at advertising but a lot has been done but we're also continuing to do what we call uh balazas in the community to explain what government has been able to do in the area >> because as honed if you go to that area right now >> for anybody who has been there 20 years ago definitely a lot has been done roads have been done and when you open roads there is a lot of influ issues that I mean development that takes place if you go literally every how many kilometers you'll see a rural growth center coming up because of the road that has come up somebody who grows products they are coming out now so a lot is being done in this community and we believe that with continued production in that area with continued road network continued service delivery being improved on more is being done. If you go to Himma hospital, we've the government has put in a lot of effort in upgrading the regional hospital in Hima and that is services to our people.

[00:14:20]Universities have come up, new secondary schools have come up, seed schools that have the government is putting in place through the U gift program. All these are aimed at improving access to our education services in the area and the health centers have come up. You can move now from now up to I think now Boro has one of the best road networks that is stomached and accessibility there's nothing you can do when it comes to accessibility.

[00:14:49]Accessibility improves everything and our comm our people are benefiting and they are yet even to benefit more. Wait when you see when we host the Africa Cup of Nations in Ha. Wait when you see people everybody who has grown a product we'll be able to sell and all that one will be revenue income to the communities that in the area. Maybe you just have to give them a breakdown of the interventions that uh the ministry has put in place and perhaps uh the measurable outcomes for them to really stay firm and know that there's so much for them to achieve as a sub region >> as the sub region. We continue to do that. That's why we are going to do more mobilization and supervision to explain to them what is happening >> because some of them as the honorable has enimulated they are many but when sometime some people if somebody is not benefiting as an individual sometimes people think there a lot has not been done. We tend to be individualistic communities these days that what we receive as an individual is what we consider but we have a lot of you need to realize what we call the public good and the role of government is to provide the public good and once the government has provided the public good it's the responsibility of an individual to also put on to go out and claim bear if you don't go out and claim bear the rain will rain can rain but if you don't go out and you start trapping once it finishes you'll be forced to go and fetch the water and the people who will go fetch the water will complain that it didn't rain.

[00:16:25]Thank you.

[00:16:26]>> Wow. Uh maybe uh as we go on in a conversation we shall get to understand because um in Kisoro they're proud to say it's the Canada of Uganda, the P of Africa. When you go to Cabal they'll call it the Swiss land. I don't know what we shall be calling bonuro in the near future. Um my partner will help me uh find an answer to that. Uh maybe um when we get to the the development themselves, we talked about earlier on the oil itself. The minister did explain the opportunities that are there for uh the ordinary Ugandans to tap into. Now we speak about the oil. Some would say it is a curse.

[00:17:01]>> I don't know if you've heard is it a myth or the words that come around they will call it a curse but I want to understand from the minister right here what are the opportunities therein when we speak about oil in Bonor sub region?

[00:17:15]Well, um Sandra, I want to state from the oil is not a c and especially when you have leadership under president cuz we are trying to copy the no way model where when you get oil you don't just stop doing other things, >> stop doing agriculture, hospitality industry, promoting the tourism and so on. So basically the oil has come with a lot of opportunities >> and actually as I speak now all roads lead to people coming to buy land, people are coming to build u uh hotels, build shops, build all kinds of business. Mhm.

[00:18:13]>> Some are coming to do agriculture because all the people the population that is coming to needs to feed and we have encouraged our people to get involved in agriculture to get involved in businesses to. So all these are coming as opportunities as we develop the oil and you are where we came up with the local content bill or law where some of the activities are done by the local people.

[00:18:47]>> Mhm.

[00:18:47]>> So that also comes with employment opportunities but also when we sell our oil to get a lot of benefits. So oil is not a c if you plan well for it. But if you get the money from oil and then go to buy perfumes, buy alcoholic drinks, then it becomes a curse. M >> but if we plan very well for the infrastructure >> uh soio economic programs that can benefit our country >> likehood of our people but also improve the infrastructure in our country. Well, again, Sandra, you are spot on. Buno generally has what I would term as a heritage cuz even the biggest natural forest like Bodongo Boma and others are inu but because of the oil influx and the refugees you know we host refugees in Woru >> uh in district inongu, especially the the the refugees cuz when they come they want to build houses, they want to cook food.

[00:20:16]But what we are doing now is to sensitize the population.

[00:20:21]But also again the president has guided and the population has demanded that some of these forests are made national parks starting with cuz some people had subdivided land in >> they were doing clear fairing where you cut every tree irrespective of age.

[00:20:47]So that will save the environment because these are massive forests >> with the trees that take long to grow the mahogans the buses and so on. So basically that's what we are doing but we also encouraging people to plant trees >> as individuals and this is being done but also the oil companies >> have come up with means of protecting the water protecting the wild animals.

[00:21:20]Again we are blessed as Monuro.

[00:21:23]>> We have the national parks where we have these wild animals.

[00:21:29]So they they have put up plans and systems to ensure that the environment is protected against the oil, the environment is protected against encroachment >> and the ministry of water and environment is the lead partner in ensuring that there is compliance.

[00:21:49]>> Mhm. as far as environmental protection, avoiding the oil spills and so on is concerned. But even as a affairs, I told you one of my roles is to supervise to monitor.

[00:22:05]>> Mhm.

[00:22:05]>> We also normally interface and we have interest in ensuring that our environment is safe.

[00:22:13]>> Mhm. Well, amazing. Thank you so much for clarifying that honorable minister.

[00:22:19]Well, a few minutes to the top of the hour that would be nine. But uh before we go for that particular break, I'll just um have one for the commissioner right here as the minister's explaining about the opportunities and them being cautious when it comes to their environment itself. I'll just move to the assistant commissioner to en enlighten us in regards those oil oil related projects that are in the region.

[00:22:45]uh translating them into the oil production and uh how they and how the household incomes can come through for the locals because we want everyone to tap into this opportunity.

[00:22:57]>> Thank Thank you.

[00:23:00]>> Uh thank you Sandra.

[00:23:02]>> We have what we call local content and local content is not only about the big contracts that affect affect the oil industry. every culture production will have where to sell. There is nothing you know once you have a market then definitely production is easy to stimulate and if you see the 4 acre model if you see the hayers we've been giving in the region the whole aim is to stimulate production and enable local people to supply the market that is existing. When the oil had just been discovered in the region, literally every product was being fed from Campala.

[00:23:46]If it was MOT was being supplied from far of places, but right now if you go to the region, you'll find that more deliberate production has taken place. If it is milk, it is locally provided. If it is everything that is needed is being done and that doesn't stop there. Now come to the tourism aspect.

[00:24:12]We need more rooms because people need to sleep. Better accommodation is being provided and this is being provided by our local people. So the local people are getting our local people are getting jobs. New institutions have come up like the Chigmba Petroleum Institute that is providing skills to our people and we are providing skills. When we provide skills we are providing skills for people who are going to work in the oil industry and once those ones get jobs they're also supporting their families and that helps the economy the local economy to grow. If you see the cover international airport how which is going to be commissioned this year with more plans coming in that means more people coming in the region and more people coming in the region means more resources for the region. So whatever is being done >> in an area, as long as we are attracting more the population to come into our area and not only just the population, the population that has resources to spend, it gives business to our national parks. It gives business to our markets and give pe.

[00:25:26]So the communities are benefiting >> and through the backward and forward linkages of the petroleum industry everybody is benefiting at the different levels. Of course for the industries for the transporters they benefit at the different level but also the the person in the local market also benefits at another level. So the issue is how do we strategize to ensure that everybody benefits and one of the things we are doing is mobilize our people and tell them if the president talks of the 4 acre model take advantage of it you have a market to sell if you have anything to sell there's no way you're going to change your life if you have nothing to sell >> and that's what we are trying the message we are telling our people can you produce more can you be able to sell and you'll be able to have a better life thank you >> okay well when we 10. After these messages, we shall be uh looking at the infrastructure opportunity the infrastructure that is in the sub region and not forgetting uh the airport itself, Kabalga International Airport and the Homa Stadium like the minister earlier on did mention uh the opportunities that are there to tap in as far as infrastructure is concerned after these messages. Keep watching.

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[00:28:16]>> I know what Uganda needs. When General Caleb Akandwano retired, Salem Sala presented his long detailed analysis of Uganda's economy and structured recommendations for improvement in the form of the third national development plan, NDP3 to President Musevani. He laid out the kinds of problems that many Ugandans feel everyday but rarely see captured in one place. He was doing what he has done for years, breaking down the problems holding back ordinary Ugandans.

[00:28:50]He talked about distortions in factors of production such as land conflicts that choke investment, the high cost of finance for ordinary people, the shortage of skills among youth, the slow pace of value addition, and the gap between production in the villages and the factories in industrial parks.

[00:29:12]It was the kind of diagnosis a technocrat offers when trying to get a country unstuck.

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[00:29:24]I know what Uganda needs. At first, to others, it might have sounded almost dismissive.

[00:29:31]But when placed in the context of 40 years of state rebuilding, economic reform, and political stability, it revealed something deeper. A belief that Uganda's path to transformation has been consistent, deliberate, and informed by lived experience rather than theory.

[00:29:53]His confidence is not based on guesswork. it's based on the journey already traveled. He always stresses that any serious revolutionary discussion about the economy of Uganda or indeed much of Africa should include the following questions. One, what was the economy of Uganda like in 1900 at the dawn of colonialism?

[00:30:19]Two, what was the economy of Uganda like in 1962 at the sunset of colonialism?

[00:30:29]Three, how and what was the magnitude of the collapse of the Ugandan economy between 1971 and 1986?

[00:30:41]Idiiamin Oote second oello four.

[00:30:48]What therefore was the economy of Uganda like in 1986?

[00:30:55]Five.

[00:30:57]What is the Ugandan economy like today and why?

[00:31:09]This is the front bench.

[00:31:14]>> Welcome back. Good to know you're still a part of us this particular conversation, the front bench. My name is Sandra and we're coming to you live from broadcast house Nile Avenue. Well, if you just joined us, our topic of discussion, we're getting we're inside Bonuro's economic boom where we're seeing oil infrastructure and investment frontier right there are reshaping the future of Uganda. And uh before we took a break uh we wanted to look at more of the infrastructure developments in there not forgetting to mention uh the Kabala International Airport, the Hua Stadium uh the economic activities in the sub region. How are they justifying uh the activities that are there? How can one justify them? and uh for a discussion unpacking this and so much more on set.

[00:32:01]I am happy uh to be joined by honorable Jennifer Namyangu, the minister of state for neural affairs from the office of the prime minister and next to me assistant commissioner Mr. Noat Katsuro.

[00:32:14]Well, I'll just uh get to you uh minister uh even in in regards to the airport itself and the stadium. Let's share more for the viewer in regards to the other opportunities that they can tap in. Then shortly we shall have an opportunity for the general audience that is watching cuz messages are flowing in and I'll let the producer put the number right on the screen. Uh we start up with you. Uh well Sandra just like I told you is really blessed because the oil came with a lot of other opportunities.

[00:32:52]Because of the oil >> we got to the international airport kalea.

[00:32:57]>> Mhm.

[00:32:58]>> Because of the international airport we have got the stadium. M now with the international airport the opportunities are that one the the investors can fly directly to Boru the tourists can fly directly to Boru all the business community including cargo you don't need to move on on road you can just fly directly to >> and this international airport is in Ha district a few kilometers to Ha city >> but also with the stadium now we are going to host AFCON and the opportunities that are available as we talk now Uganda Development Bank is in Ha city they have established a branch there government has put in money for all those >> Mhm.

[00:34:03]>> who want to develop hotels cuz we are going to have so many guests and this money is cheap.

[00:34:13]It's just at 6% interest and you can come and get the money and build the hotels and pick get your money from these uh guests who will be coming. But also we have in Hoima city what they call a onestop center. It is a service center.

[00:34:37]You enter one room and in that room you'll get the information about land.

[00:34:45]You'll get information about Uganda Revenue Authority. You'll get information about tourism. You'll get information about anything other than running here, going here, going here. So, we have a one-stop service center. You find all those people in on their desks and they'll give you all the information that you need. Immigration, driving permit, everything.

[00:35:15]So, all those opportunities are available.

[00:35:18]But like we I said earlier, Boru now is shining and if anybody does not come to and invest, you have lost an opportunity.

[00:35:31]>> We should get moving.

[00:35:32]>> Yes.

[00:35:35]>> And the roads >> the Tamaka road we have close to 800 kilometers in that Sab region.

[00:35:43]The oil pipeline is almost done. So there are a lot of opportunities. A lot of opportunities and Mor is very unique by the way. There are educational institutions that don't exist anywhere else except the commission has spoken about the Chigmba Petroleum Institute. It is only but we also have the police training school only.

[00:36:17]the cooperative college only inu the national forestry college only inu so very very unique but now we invite everybody you you don't need to say you know I cannot travel so many kilometers just fly cuz kabalga international airport is the second largest next to airport now the stadium it is already finished and it is looking very very excellent and it is just within the city. As we talk now, government has also provided money to improve the HA regional referral hospital to to international standards but also Mindi Hospital to do also the roads that connect to that place. So there are a lot of things going on and like I said people want to invest especially in hotels because the hotels that we have are not enough. We need more hotels and we still have some time.

[00:37:33]The money is available in UDB.

[00:37:36]So somebody should not say and the land is available. You come and buy your land and do the construction.

[00:37:45]proud to be your >> still part of this conversation. I'll give opportunity uh to the viewers who are watching and you're saying sending in uh your submissions appreciating uh the talk show. Uh there's a one who says good evening UBC. Thanks for hosting a minister for affairs. I am David a youth leader from central division in Mindi.

[00:38:06]May the minister please help me and get us some funds for our youth programs and projects please. That is a one David another one just greeting you that is Patrick is just greeting the minister.

[00:38:19]Another one says honorable I appreciate your ministry for the construction of better roads I hope that's the right pronunciation in Bonuro and other infrastructure but large part of the region has no hydro electricity power uh David Manano uh that is your query.

[00:38:36]Another one is appreciating you for the appreciating us for the program and is requesting the government to install a Monuro minister and not some not some who can't even speak the language. That is your query. You're called Collins. Uh Collins that is your message.

[00:38:56]Um another one is saying uh is requesting the government to install.

[00:39:01]Okay. requesting the minister to in requesting from Euro minister getting another message. Good evening Sandra.

[00:39:08]The honorable minister has clearly hinted on the critical ingredients to development and also insights insights to sustainable development to the region and the country at large. Let's pray that however whoever takes up delivers to the fullest. That is um ma ma that is your message. Another one, Bonuro needs better electricity. That is your query. Uh you're saying Bonuro needs more electricity coverage, a road infrastructure. Without electricity does not generate employment. Uh we need more stable electricity and wider coverage.

[00:39:47]Uh your name is Enid Kiza. I thank you for your submission. I'm grateful to see you. But those they are talking about was started long ago. But now we are buying a coffee seeding at 2,000 shillings which is so expensive. Yet they were told last year to prepare gardens that the government is going to give us coffee seedlings but up to now they have never received them. The season they told us we lobby through our MPs and they will be the ones to give us everything they have promised has not come to pass. Well the minister will respond to you shortly.

[00:40:22]I I didn't mention your name. The one who is talking about the seedlings that is Kiza Florence.

[00:40:28]Another one is appreciating. I thank you for hosting big visitors. I tell them that there is also a born again church that needs just roofing only. That is a request mia in Manafua.

[00:40:43]Thanks for the show Sandra. I would like to appreciate the efforts of honorable minister Namyangu. Abuna sub is almost at the rank of New York City. Whoa. Big up to the NRM government. That is a peros from Kaboya town council.

[00:40:59]Like what are we going to give Bonoriso is the Canada and cover is Switzerland.

[00:41:05]Someone says it's in New York City.

[00:41:07]Amazing. Thanks for the conversation. As much as we talk, this is um another submission coming through. As much as we talk with our heads high due to tamak roads in Bonora region and other infrastructure, I would like the minister to comment on Kagadi General Hospital which was established in 1968 handling about six districts including Diara Congo but to date has never been renovated and upgraded with inadequate facilities and medical staff. Honorable minister talks about Kagadi government secondary school which has over 4,000 students with only 22 teachers on government payroll and over 40 teachers private who are private not on government payroll amid his shortage of classroom facilities staff quarters dories etc minister how can you help that school that is Robert Kagadi town council I don't know can we first handle those is it okay >> yeah true >> okay then we shall take another set.

[00:42:07]>> Okay.

[00:42:08]>> Thank you, Sandra. And I >> I want to appreciate our viewers uh because this feedback indicates that they are listening, they are watching and I want to begin with David Mindi.

[00:42:27]>> Mhm.

[00:42:27]>> They have a youth group that needs money. Mhm.

[00:42:31]>> All they need to do is to apply for the micro project money >> through their CDO who forwards it to the cow and the cow rights to our PS and we shall send our team of economies >> to go and sit with this group to verify if the group exists and what they are doing. They may even ask for money which is far less than what they need.

[00:43:08]>> So he has to do that >> and we shall give them the money. The issue of electricity was raised by so many people.

[00:43:17]This has been a general program a general problem in many areas but it's being handled.

[00:43:23]>> Mhm. You are aware that uh initially electricity was being handled by the rural electrification agency and due to restructuring in government this was removed and it took time for the ministry of energy now to take up the mantle or the responsibility of providing electricity.

[00:43:50]Apparently the program is on. It may not reach everywhere, >> every village or every parish at the same time but the program is on and I know many of the areas will have to access electricity and I've been writing to the minister of energy some people want to add value like they have mentioned >> and they can't do it without electricity but I'm also aware that every district inu at least is connected to the grid every district >> and then the siblings.

[00:44:27]>> Now we are moving to the sub counties >> and I know that every area will be connected. Now calling says he wants a monor minister.

[00:44:38]When I had just been appointed there were such sentiments and I basically told them yes if you are too tribal just write to the president and say instead of appointing a prime minister who is going to be in charge of the entire Uganda. Yes. you switch.

[00:45:01]Let our prime minister become the min >> the minister for the sub region.

[00:45:07]>> Uhhuh.

[00:45:08]>> Mhm.

[00:45:08]>> Oh, honorable Jamatia.

[00:45:10]>> Mhm.

[00:45:11]>> Because he's minister of finance.

[00:45:12]>> Finance >> and he's a minister for the entire country.

[00:45:15]>> Mhm.

[00:45:16]>> We have honorable Masa's minister of state for public service but for the entire Uganda.

[00:45:22]>> Yes.

[00:45:23]>> We have honorable Yamukama.

[00:45:25]>> Mhm. Fred, Minister of Transport, but for the entire Uganda.

[00:45:30]>> That's true.

[00:45:30]>> Baram, >> Minister for Youth and Children is a Muro, but he's a minister for the entire Uganda.

[00:45:37]>> So, we should not consider >> being too tribal. A minister of Moro is not an one.

[00:45:46]>> Mhm.

[00:45:47]>> And actually, I've performed very well.

[00:45:49]I I don't want to praise myself >> but I've been able to live beyond the issue of being tribal because ino by the way it is multi-ribal >> you have the there you have the there you have you have the rules you have you have everybody is there >> actually when you go toongo you can't speak in one language you You either speak in Swahili, >> you speak in even are there.

[00:46:25]>> So my brother Coin should live beyond >> being too tribal. After all the first minister was au >> Yes.

[00:46:34]>> Yes. Kiza was a muru and for me this is not an issue.

[00:46:40]>> We are called to serve anywhere. What is important is the service to the people not the trade >> the coffee seedlings.

[00:46:51]Yes. That you are waiting for coffee seedlings. You know government used to supply coffee seedlings through the Uganda Coffee Development Authority.

[00:47:01]Mhm.

[00:47:01]>> But again through restructuring this was removed and the money which they were using to supply the seedlings is now in PDM >> when you get your 1 million and you've decided to invest it in coffee.

[00:47:18]>> Mhm.

[00:47:19]>> And you are buying each seedling at 2,000 >> Mhm.

[00:47:23]>> an acre you can plant about 350 seedlings. So if each is bought at 2,000, >> you'll still have more money to do the ping or digging the pits and planting your coffee and taking care of it. So people should not wait for free seedlings.

[00:47:45]>> Even the ones where we have supported the nursery coffee farmers operators, we want them to generate money. These seedlings are not free.

[00:47:56]>> Mhm. Because you have to buy the move, the ones they call ports.

[00:48:02]You have to get labor to do the potting, putting soil in these pots. And then you have to put to buy the seeds >> or to buy the cutings.

[00:48:14]You have to to establish a mother garden. All that is money. At times you have to to water >> the the seedlings. So you cannot do all that and then you you are dishing out free seedlings.

[00:48:30]>> In any case, even in my own constituency, we used to do that even under the operation where secreation >> the soldiers would give out seedlings.

[00:48:42]But because if somebody has not invested any money, they leave the seedlings to dry on the verandas and they don't take care of them.

[00:48:51]>> That's true. So, as we talk now, there's no free seedling. You have to buy a seedling. And 2,000 is very cheap. Let me say it here.

[00:49:01]>> I saw somewhere where they were selling 5,000 per seedling, but people are still buying.

[00:49:08]>> Even my prime minister set up a nursery >> and people are buying these seedlings.

[00:49:14]So, kindly buy the seedlings.

[00:49:17]They they are and these are after 2 years you will start harvesting.

[00:49:22]>> Mhm.

[00:49:22]>> These are improved seedlings.

[00:49:25]Then there was an issue of uh Kagadi General Hospital being rehabilitated. Yes. It is a big issue and recently they received an ambulance but the issue of rehabilitation I know government is going to take it on. is a hospital which has a very big coverage.

[00:49:47]I agree and I know it very well. So there was even a uh a request that it should be made regional hospital to cater for that big population >> and I we have already brought it to the attention of the minister for health. We have brought it to the attention of government generally and I know with time this will be done. Kagades. Yes.

[00:50:14]Yes. The population is very high >> and under the ministry of education there is a program to support the traditional schools and I believe this Kagadi SS will be supported under that.

[00:50:32]I know it and for sure the population is very big and it's one of the best schools in terms of performance.

[00:50:42]the bornag again church which is requesting for iron sheets. You write through the cow and you will have the iron sheets. Somebody spoke about forests. I've already commented that these forests are going to be turned into national parks.

[00:50:58]>> Yes, you do.

[00:50:59]>> And in a national park you don't really go to do encroachment.

[00:51:04]>> Mhm.

[00:51:05]>> So they will be fully protected. And like I said, most of the trees in there because for me I'm a forester by training.

[00:51:13]>> And my first deployment in was to teach in Forestry College.

[00:51:19]>> Even when college says I don't know to speak the language, I know it and I'm a so >> I know it.

[00:51:28]>> Nice to meet you.

[00:51:29]>> I know it. Yes. maybe for him to know.

[00:51:37]So >> should know that and >> I am by tribe but come from >> so we at so the forests are going to be protected >> and uh I encourage everybody to make sure that we all do that together cuz once we protect the ecosystem we shall have so many benefits >> in terms of the earnings through tourism but also the timber.

[00:52:13]>> Most of these trees we are talking about they have good quality timber. Why should we import the furniture from China when we have the best timber? The environment >> at times the rains disappear but locally 40% of our rains are made locally through the forest the lakes and the rivers >> the wetlands. So we have all the reason to protect these forests.

[00:52:45]>> Well time is against us. We want to give an opportunity to the other uh viewer who is submitting in. Someone is saying, "Thank you for the informative program.

[00:52:54]The name is Moisa Ammon from Mindi. I would like to ask what p practical opportunities are available for youth in Bonor to benefit from oil and investment project." That is uh your submission.

[00:53:07]Another one says, "Good evening Sandra.

[00:53:09]Thanks for hosting the minister of affairs. My concern is about establishment of academic institutions especially the university the puno have waited for very long. When will a motion for the establishment of mon university be presented and discussed on the floor of parliament? Thanks that is wmani joffrey from tandongo district. Thank you for watching. Uh one is appreciating the honorable minister. The most destruction to natural resources is done by government officers and agencies.

[00:53:38]Okay. Another one is uh she's appreciating the program and um just to appreciate you for the tremendous work uh you've done in Bonuro that is Moi Pollindo Ving from Eastern Uganda. Thank you for appreciating. Well, good evening moderator. I am Haruna from Chiku district. Uh the local content policies are not being implemented. Those companies from oil and gas aren't giving jobs uh to the local people. herself she has trained in welding but even when you apply you're not considered and and yet they have the the required qualifications at the ministry should work on implementation on local content that is Haruna uh that is your query from Chiku another one is saying good evening Sandra and all honorable minister in the house uh that is Joffrey Masera from Chava Chabayenzi co I hope I've given the right pronunciation pardon me you're from cases districts. You're kindly asking the minister of neural affairs about lobbying for her people. Which strategy is she using to eliminate corruption in Bonor sub region? Your worries about corruption. Uh we have Case is appreciating you. May Allah bless Voro. Please be uh the person is grateful from Kongo district. Thank you for appreciating the great work. Edson Camozi Ruchiga district you're appreciating the commitment and how far is bonuro prepared for Afon well earlier on the minister was citing so much to do with opportunities there northern Uganda that is aaron uh you're saying northern Uganda is also having a police training school well that's good that is very interesting thanks for the wonderful prescription thanks for the honorable minister and the commissioner my location is strategic with enormous opportunities but a lot is needed calling for dedicated calculated hard work. People of Muro the time is now you're requesting them to grab the opportunity that is Musim Francis. Thank you for watching. Uh well well done by the Bonuro minister for fostering development within the Bonuro region for people in Rot. Can you help us lobby for electricity? Uh there are high voltage wires passing in the community and are said to be taking electricity in Congo.

[00:56:01]You're Justin from Kagadi. Lots of people are sending in their queries, submissions and appreciation. Our time is against us. I'll just let my panel handle those before we let you go.

[00:56:14]Feel free commissioner any submissions can handle.

[00:56:19]>> The minister is We are safe. The minister is right here.

[00:56:24]Yes.

[00:56:25]>> Uh thank you uh uh my sister Sandra.

[00:56:29]Uh again I want to appreciate our viewers >> for the feedback.

[00:56:36]>> Mhm.

[00:56:37]>> And the remarks, youth opportunities.

[00:56:42]There are many opportunities.

[00:56:46]Employment opportunities, study opportunities.

[00:56:50]Now we are talking about investment opportunities.

[00:56:54]I want the younger people not to undermine themselves.

[00:56:59]They can even form a company and you go and access this money in the Uganda Development Bank. I don't think it has a limit on age.

[00:57:12]So they this is the time for them to grab that. Then on university you are aware my friends that we we were the problem because initially the issue of land took many years.

[00:57:30]They were talking about Mindi then Mindi land was encumbered then we now talked about land in the city.

[00:57:39]>> Mhm. This was for another uh education institution and the the remaining acres were very few for university until Dr. Wan gave us land in Ibuhima in Chiku district and I can assure you that the university is going to be built because the building does not start with immediate structures. they have to do what they call structure plans. They they have to develop those plans and once they are done and the land has been acquired and the beauty is this university is going to be constructed by UPDF engineering brigade.

[00:58:27]>> These ones they they do their work in a patriotic way. So we are going to have the university because the issue of land was sorted and the money is available.

[00:58:39]The the business of saying go to the floor of parliament and make a presentation.

[00:58:46]This is not an issue. The chief executive the landlord the president already pronounced himself. The minister of education set up the task force headed by professor chmanuela even office has been opened in these people have already selected the courses to be offered the campuses the colleges to be opened the faculties so we are moving the issue of the university is being handled then again somebody is alleging that the forests are being destroyed by the government officials >> may be true or false but as far as I know and as somebody went to uh to BMA forest the people I found there one of them was actually reverend father who was got with timber but I knew he was not alone there must have been a force behind him saying if we front this man of God then they will fear to arrest him.

[01:00:01]There are even officials from the kingdom who say the land is theirs. Then there are others who said they investors.

[01:00:11]So it is not true for me. I will defend the forest officers or the NFS staff the ones I know and even UPDF is deployed there >> in this forest only that the numbers are not big. So we have had maybe in some cases you never know we may have individuals who may not be upright but at least I know the people who have been encroaching on the forest and these have not been forest NFA staff then the local content law not being implemented he said he's a welder I hope you know the welding that is done in the oil and gas is different >> from being a local welder.

[01:01:05]>> These are actually trained in Chigmba >> to do the welding. So I hope the gentleman has got the training in Chugumba on welding even those people have been those who have been trained in Kumba have been deployed they are the ones welding that pipeline. So I need to get more details as to whether this is a professional welder is supposed to work in the oil and gas or is a local welder within the community lobbying for our people. Yes, I said among my mandate is to lobby for and that one I do. For example, I went to Mind Hospital and I found a very small um labor wer.

[01:01:58]And yet apparently you find like six women pushing at the same time and yet that labor can only accommodate one lady or one woman. So I brought it to the attention of the minister Dr. Jenna Chen, the prime minister and we have all moved in to make sure that that hospital is worked on. Kiranong hospital >> on the highway accidents and so on. We are saying it must be expanded. It must be given a status of a a regional referral hospital. So is Kagadi. So lobbying we are doing it and even lobbying for the youth >> to have job opportunities to get benefit in terms of the local content in the oil and gas. Well, time is against us. Maybe in a nutshell as you wind up minister with your remarks.

[01:02:53]>> As I wind up other benefits that or other activities we have done, we gave an ambulance to the regional hospital.

[01:03:02]>> This was through my ministry. We built the Gando Primary School in Masindi.

[01:03:09]>> A four classroom, two classroom, two classroom. We even fenced the school. We even put VIP toilets for the learners, water harvesting. So I've done quite a lot >> and the fight against corruption is a responsibility for all of us.

[01:03:29]>> So really I want to appeal issues of electricity will be sorted. Issues of development we must all embrace because there are a lot of opportunities.

[01:03:39]Government is sinking in money in the parish development model in the Neoga and I can assure actually some of the districts are doing very well as far as Neoga is concerned as far as micro projects is concerned as far as PDM is concerned.

[01:03:58]>> Okay. Yes. So I just want to encourage our people to continue grabbing any available opportunity let's grab it.

[01:04:07]AFCON is coming. What are you going to sell? Is it going to pass and you've not benefited anything? You are just looking on the roads have been done. What are you selling along these roads or in these markets?

[01:04:22]>> Mhm.

[01:04:22]>> We have programs like use mid coming and I will encourage the youth when we are having these contractors please go and work with them. At times we say I can't do this work. How will they see me working as a porter? But this is money.

[01:04:39]>> We have even the the Alberta in sustainable projects. They all inu. So a lot of projects. I just want to encourage our people.

[01:04:50]>> Our president is going to swear in on 12th May and the development is going to continue. So let's grab the opportunity and work together. Thank you for viewing us. Thank you for giving us feedback through the questions and I know we have taken these issues. We shall share with the responsible centers and action will be taken.

[01:05:19]>> Thank you so much honorable minister.

[01:05:21]Maybe uh we don't want to be selfish.

[01:05:23]Inclusivity as well. A final remark in one minute from the assistant commissioner.

[01:05:28]>> Thank you.

[01:05:28]>> Thank you Sandra. uh chances will always be taken by somebody who's organized.

[01:05:35]>> So I would advise the youth, I would advise the people of Boro to take the chances that have come to them. Once you they take them, they will be able to achieve more and be able to advance >> as a region. Thank you.

[01:05:51]>> Well, to the viewers been following, thank you so much and we do apologize.

[01:05:54]we could not take in all your requests and questions uh for this particular program but maybe another opportunity will be avail but it's a pleasure spending time with you thank you so much for making time a salute to our guest for the day honorable Jennifer Namyangu and the assistant commissioner Mr. I know but for making time to join us. Well, that's all we had time for. Time is against us.

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