Chris Fleming Scratches Our Itches

Added: 2026-05-21

[00:00:02]This is a Headgum podcast.

[00:00:04]>> What's our podcast? What's it going to be about?

[00:00:08]>> Tell us >> what's our podcast >> with Beck and Kyle.

[00:00:15]>> Shall we start the show? Get it going with a little ho ho ho.

[00:00:23]>> Shall we start the show? Get it going with a ho.

[00:00:32]It's time to start the show.

[00:00:39]>> Don't you know it's time to start the show?

[00:00:50]But I don't know what it is.

[00:00:54]Don't know what it is.

[00:00:59]The show about the show when you watch it and you know that it's count together.

[00:01:13]>> They are doing the show together. You like it all.

[00:01:18]>> That was perfect. Thank you, Michelle.

[00:01:22]You guys write that?

[00:01:24]>> Yes.

[00:01:24]>> I feel like Kirk Cobain and Beck Bennett wrote that together.

[00:01:28]>> Yes, we did. Actually, he got all the cred. He's so good.

[00:01:32]>> He's so good. He came before me. That was kind of >> He's so good.

[00:01:35]>> He's so good.

[00:01:37]>> You have been on one lately.

[00:01:39]>> Oh, really? Like, wait, what do you mean? What do you mean? That's like, oh, no, I'm on the spot. What do you mean I've been on one?

[00:01:44]>> I just feel like you're always like kind of It just feels like you're on edge or something.

[00:01:48]>> No, no, no. I'm comfortable.

[00:01:51]You absolute bastard. No, I'm I'm I've never been more comfortable in my life.

[00:01:56]>> I believe that.

[00:01:57]>> Actually, I was kind of saying that as a joke, but it's it is I think that hopefully that's true for a lot of people that you just get more and more comfortable >> just in life.

[00:02:06]>> Yeah. I mean, there there's always ups and downs, don't get me wrong, >> right? But um I I feel like I've been seeing like clips of people on podcasts like ours being like my 40s are have been my favorite or people in their 50s being like this has been the best >> uh you know decade for me my 50s.

[00:02:28]>> Interesting.

[00:02:29]>> Um I think probably when the health stuff kicks in, >> right?

[00:02:33]>> Maybe later it gets gets a little rougher but but it is nice.

[00:02:36]>> I do think 30s were tighter for me.

[00:02:38]>> Or tighter for you? Yeah.

[00:02:40]>> Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know to be honest. I mean, there was a lot I feel like there was a lot of >> There are a lot of things that I that I don't miss about that era of like being that age. But >> yeah, but yeah, it was pretty tight.

[00:02:53]>> Yeah, >> we were in New York City. Remember, >> dude? Yeah, I remember. Yeah, the old show.

[00:02:58]>> Remember when we got on SNL?

[00:02:59]>> Yeah, dude. That was >> That was so special. And the fact that we had known each other and we got on the show together. I thought I was thinking about that recently. I was like, that doesn't always happen. That was >> No, it's not. Usually people get on that show and they're just by themselves.

[00:03:10]Yeah, >> that's >> Well, there's always a cast. There's always cast, so they're not there by themselves.

[00:03:15]>> No, but you like don't get on with your friend from college necessarily.

[00:03:18]>> Sure. Yeah, I guess that's a decent point.

[00:03:20]>> Yeah. I mean, I mean, I don't I'm not like a historian of the show, so I don't know like every situation, but >> Yeah, there have been. Yeah, it's been a really >> Lauren Michaels. So, >> I don't Yes. Yeah. Actually, I do believe that's Yes. And I remember when they start when Lonely Island did the digital shorts.

[00:03:39]>> Yeah, that's cool. I know.

[00:03:42]I know you remember that.

[00:03:44]>> I used to fast forward to the digital shorts. Sorry. Sorry.

[00:03:49]>> Uh yeah, the digital shorts were cool and still are cool.

[00:03:53]>> Absolutely. You know what isn't cool?

[00:03:55]>> Uh what?

[00:03:56]>> Bullies.

[00:03:56]>> Yeah, >> people who think that they're better than you.

[00:03:58]>> That's exactly where I was going to go.

[00:04:00]Bullies can take a hike and uh eat my shorts.

[00:04:05]I said it. Bullies can take a hike and eat my shorts.

[00:04:09]>> I This is That's really cool cuz like I I'm I like I've known Beck for a long time >> and I know when he's adamant about something.

[00:04:22]>> Yep.

[00:04:23]>> When something means a lot to him. And if I'm looking at you right now and I feel like I've seen my best friend turn into somebody turn into the person that I've always wanted him to become.

[00:04:35]>> Thank you.

[00:04:36]>> Thank you. I agree with you. Thank you so much for saying that.

[00:04:41]>> You're saying thank you. Like I'm doing you a favor. Like you're doing the world a favor, man. It's really cool.

[00:04:46]>> That's nice. It's nice to hear you say that. I am kind of now going to like Oh, so up until this point like I haven't been the person that you wanted to be.

[00:04:54]I've loved every version of you.

[00:04:55]>> Yeah, >> I've loved every version.

[00:04:57]>> But this is the version me saying I I want bullies to take a hike and they can eat my shorts. That's the version of me that you like.

[00:05:04]>> I think that they're I love you. I don't want to hurt your feelings. I don't know what'll stay in the >> in the podcast >> in the like edit here.

[00:05:13]>> Yeah.

[00:05:13]>> But I do think people have been waiting for like people in our lives.

[00:05:17]>> Yeah.

[00:05:17]>> We love you. We always have. And if you didn't change, we would still love you because you're our back.

[00:05:24]>> Yeah.

[00:05:24]>> Right.

[00:05:24]>> That's really sweet.

[00:05:25]>> But I think this was like kind of the step that a lot of us and I'm talking about some of our friends.

[00:05:30]>> Mhm.

[00:05:31]>> Um I think even even the ones >> that I'm that >> that I've hooked up with or >> even the ones that you've hooked up hooked up with when I talked to them, >> they're like they were hoping that you would sort of take a stance finally.

[00:05:47]Well, this feels really good. Um, >> great.

[00:05:50]>> Yeah, I think that um uh it's really it's really nice to uh to be here.

[00:05:58]>> Yeah, it's really it is really nice to be here.

[00:06:00]>> Yeah.

[00:06:02]>> And here, by the way, is what's our podcast?

[00:06:04]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:06:06]>> With Beck Bennett and Kyle Kyle Goggles Mooney.

[00:06:09]>> Kyle Goggles Mooney is here. uh the podcast where we bring up we bring on some uh weirdo off the street and have them put a show on for us.

[00:06:19]>> Yeah.

[00:06:19]>> I've been having so much fun with you on the Patreon.

[00:06:22]>> Yes. I've been having fun with you on the Patreon, too. We've been goofing and letting ourselves go.

[00:06:26]>> Yes.

[00:06:27]>> Yeah. I uh I've got ideas for the Patreon, too.

[00:06:30]>> I sent te I sent I was I was about to say I sent text to Beck. I sent a text Beck a text.

[00:06:35]>> You sent Beck a text.

[00:06:36]>> This Sometimes my brain is like flip-flopping. I'm in I've gone through the mirror. I'm, you know, like Alice, you know, I'm uh I'm flip-flopped. You know what? It's opposite day. Do you remember? And does anybody here remember opposite days at school? Do you ever do that?

[00:06:52]>> Uh-huh.

[00:06:53]>> Yes.

[00:06:55]Why are you nervous?

[00:06:56]>> I'm not nervous. I just don't know where you're going with that. Yes, I did.

[00:06:58]Opposite day. I mean, I don't think it was a school sanctioned thing ever.

[00:07:03]>> Why are you nervous about talking about opposite day?

[00:07:06]>> This just makes me uncomfortable. It's like going through the looking glass or whatever. the mer the Alice in Wonderland thing.

[00:07:11]>> What do you But I don't understand what that >> I just didn't want to go through I didn't want to go through the looking glass. I don't want to go through the mirror.

[00:07:17]>> You don't you don't like the idea of presenting a mirrored version of yourself.

[00:07:22]>> Yeah. I I don't want to be all mixed up for the rest of the day.

[00:07:25]>> Okay. Well, we don't I was just sort of asking if you remembered it.

[00:07:27]>> Yeah.

[00:07:28]>> And Michelle, did you Would you ever have opposite day?

[00:07:31]>> Not really.

[00:07:32]>> Yeah.

[00:07:33]>> I mean, sometimes people would say something mean and say, "Haha, it's opposite day." That's what I'm referring to as well. Did you have full opposite days at your school where >> There might not have been. There was definitely twin days.

[00:07:44]>> Okay. Where you could dress up like your friend?

[00:07:48]>> I don't think we have.

[00:07:49]>> You call you'd call up your friend be like, "So, wear red shirts, backwards Boston red socks cap, and do you still have your Reebok pumps?"

[00:07:59]>> Wow. And then you guys would dress >> and you walk around like twins. That's cool. I feel like an on opposite day h like that they did something like that but I can't imagine what what the opposite like out but you're right maybe I'm just thinking of like >> I feel like >> like >> you're cool >> it's opposite day maybe I'm just thinking of that >> maybe I think so because I think if you if you invite that a sanctioned opposite day as a school >> underwear on top of your pants >> yeah and it'd be like I'm the teacher you're not the teacher or like you know what I mean like you're just inviting the kids to flip the script on the whole school and be like well it's opposite day. I can't listen to you.

[00:08:34]>> Yeah.

[00:08:34]>> You know, that'd be crazy.

[00:08:35]>> That would be That would be a dream come true. Oh, >> that is a movie. That's a movie.

[00:08:42]Opposite day. And it's like >> special effects.

[00:08:46]>> Yep. Or it's like The Purge, you know, but it's Opposite Day. Okay.

[00:08:50]>> And it's a genre. It's like a violent and it's like it's opposite day and you like like the trailer is like shots of the hallways and it's like >> okay. And it's like um you know it's like attention teachers and students and then it's like a student doing it instead of the >> oh on the PA system. Okay, I'm seeing it.

[00:09:12]>> And then like and then like where the where your where your head where your head is supposed to be. It's like it's like your butt and your butt is talking >> but it's like this is it's like like a horror movie.

[00:09:23]>> Yeah, it's opposite.

[00:09:26]Um, good ass good ass idea.

[00:09:31]Want to see it made. Think my friend is always coming up with brilliant [ __ ] Actually stood up for people who are um being put down which I think is amazing.

[00:09:41]And for once you're actually like kind of I think bringing it on the podcast.

[00:09:46]>> Thanks For eyes. I really appreciate that.

[00:09:56]I did not mean that.

[00:09:57]>> What?

[00:09:58]>> That for once. You're really >> No, I know. I told and and I didn't mean to call you for eyes. It was just hard.

[00:10:05]It's hard to sometimes do playful insults. You know what I mean?

[00:10:07]>> Yes, it is. Yeah.

[00:10:08]>> Like you don't know what like you want to get the I want to get the idea across that I'm about to insult you, but I also don't want it to be insulting. Do you know what I'm saying?

[00:10:16]>> Right. No, you can't you can't hurt me, brother. You can't you can't >> I can't believe that. I know. I guess you just said that you're like having the time of your life. No, no. I Sometimes I am, sometimes I'm not.

[00:10:26]There's There's ups and downs all all around.

[00:10:28]>> There was really something. Oh, I was I want Yeah. Here's a question I have for you.

[00:10:32]>> Okay.

[00:10:33]>> Blowing bubbles with my daughter yesterday.

[00:10:35]>> That's not a question.

[00:10:39]>> Am I allowed to keep on talking or is uh or the are the Beck troopers going to stop me from continuing my thought? Beck troopers, they're everywhere. Get used to it. The poster in the background. The Beck troopers are watching.

[00:10:55]We We pledge allegiance to the Beck troopers. We must follow their every word. Yes, we are back. Yes, we are back.

[00:11:08]>> Okay.

[00:11:10]So, you know about the Beck troopers >> and you found out about Back Troopers.

[00:11:16]>> We were blowing bubbles inside the house and the bubbles hit the rug. Uh >> oh.

[00:11:20]Do you think it's better?

[00:11:22]>> Mm.

[00:11:23]>> Now, bubbles are made of soap, right?

[00:11:25]>> That's right. Bubbles is soap. It's >> probably Probably bubbles on the rug are better than no bubbles on the rug.

[00:11:30]>> Yeah, you're cleaning your rug. Maybe you should tell your daughter that that you're just cleaning the house when you blow bubbles inside.

[00:11:37]>> But is this something that we can market?

[00:11:42]>> I think so. I think that's actually a good idea. You know, they like Yeah, cleaning bubbles.

[00:11:47]>> Clean your rug. Clean your rug. Blow some bubbles. Yeah.

[00:11:50]>> Okay.

[00:11:51]>> Okay. That's that's interesting.

[00:11:53]>> Anything else you want to get off get off your chest? I >> feel like I did have something to say to you.

[00:12:06]>> To say to the back troopers are watching.

[00:12:14]>> Oh my god. No, dude. Okay. Weirdest voice you can come up with. THREE, TWO, ONE, GO.

[00:12:24]>> All right. Weirdest voice you can come up with. Three, TWO, ONE, GO.

[00:12:27]>> I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE.

[00:12:30]>> THAT WAS GREAT.

[00:12:31]>> OKAY. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. Please don't do it again. Please don't do it again.

[00:12:35]>> Did I say about the Did I say what's been happening behind the at the Patreon?

[00:12:39]>> No, probably not.

[00:12:40]>> If you go to patreon.com/w what's our podcast and it's like a beautiful website. Um the team from Headgum helped us set it up. Uh we have got some pictures uh of Beck and I and then you got these different tiers to choose from. Yeah.

[00:12:55]>> Um $5 a month, $10 a month, and $15 a month. And Beck and I have been doing shows over at the Patreon >> that aren't these shows. They're not the main feed shows, but they allow us to sometimes riff and get a little weird.

[00:13:07]Yeah. And um I also do podcasts based on um ideas from from the the the members of the Patreon. And it's been >> and little sketches.

[00:13:17]>> We've been doing our sillies. We've been doing songs.

[00:13:20]>> Yeah.

[00:13:21]>> And I I've been thinking about we I told Beck I texted him. Oh, that's Did I say this?

[00:13:25]>> No.

[00:13:26]>> I think I you you texted me I have some ideas.

[00:13:29]>> Yeah. And like I got some ideas.

[00:13:31]>> I got some ideas too.

[00:13:33]>> I got some big ideas.

[00:13:35]>> I've got some medium-sized ones. I got some very small ideas, too.

[00:13:38]>> Okay, great. I think that's great. They don't if if there's there's not room for only big is if it's all big ideas, it's like we don't have room for so many big ideas. We need some little ideas to fit in there, too.

[00:13:49]>> Yeah.

[00:13:50]>> Yeah. Well, um I guess I don't remember what I wanted to ask you. Um >> then I guess you then I guess he's been punished with another weird voice.

[00:14:00]>> Oh boy. Here we go.

[00:14:02]>> In three, two, one. I didn't know I was supposed to do that.

[00:14:10]>> Kyle, what's that? What's that look?

[00:14:12]>> What's um I don't know. All of a sudden, all that talk about like the guy who's standing up against bullies, I'm like, "Oh, actually, he hasn't changed at all."

[00:14:22]>> Yeah, it's true. I was messing with you.

[00:14:25]>> Hey, you were bullying me.

[00:14:26]>> I was bowling you. I called you four eyes. Let's get into this.

[00:14:29]>> We got a great guest.

[00:14:30]>> We got a great guest. I respect him so much. I don't know about you.

[00:14:37]>> Chris Fleming is coming here to talk to us.

[00:14:39]>> Got a new special out.

[00:14:41]>> Yes.

[00:14:42]>> And it's incredible. It's very funny. I think it's called Live at the Palace.

[00:14:45]>> Live at the Palace on HBO.

[00:14:48]>> If you're a listener or or if you're watching this on YouTube, please keep on watching. Listening. Beck and I have decided to do four more years of the podcast.

[00:14:58]>> Yes.

[00:14:58]>> We're gonna keep on doing it. After that fourth year, we're going to decide if we should do that. It gets I don't know exponential incremental like if we finish the four-year run, then we're going to do a 10-year run. Yes. And then a one more 10-year run and then after that it would be a full 22 years.

[00:15:13]>> Yes. But we need people to keep listening and keep sharing with their friends.

[00:15:17]>> Share the clips, share the episodes, >> talk about it.

[00:15:20]>> Like I said, this run will take us four years from now. So that's 2030. And then if we've built a big enough following, we will spend the next 42 years doing the podcast.

[00:15:33]>> Yes, that's correct.

[00:15:34]>> Yes.

[00:15:35]>> So, um, check it out.

[00:15:37]>> Yeah. It's called What's Our Podcast?

[00:15:38]>> Yeah. Keep This is it. This is You're listening to it. You're watching it. So, >> let's bring on the great >> Chris >> Fleming. Fleming.

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[00:17:30]>> What's your dream domain?

[00:17:31]>> I was just going to ask you the same.

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[00:17:56]>> Instead of pen n i s, it's p e n i s.

[00:18:00]Because they're penises that are made penis. It's not not spelled the normal way. They're penises that actually pee.

[00:18:05]>> Thank you, master.

[00:18:07]>> These penises aren't like >> All penises are made to pee. You don't need to spell it differently. All penises.

[00:18:14]>> What are you saying? Your sp your penis was not made to pee.

[00:18:18]>> I have a normal penis. I don't have one that can pee.

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[00:18:45]>> No. See a penis.

[00:18:48]>> Oh my god.

[00:18:57]>> And we don't have to do headphones. I love that.

[00:18:58]>> Yeah, we just don't do them. I think it's probably worse for our listeners, but >> when I whenever I put them on, I start trying to sound sexy. You're like, "Oh, yeah. I'm sound like this a little bit."

[00:19:09]Yeah. And it takes me out of it >> completely. You start You start thinking about your how everyone starts think about how they sound.

[00:19:14]>> Yeah. Exactly. Instead of what they're saying.

[00:19:16]>> And also, I feel like you and I probably have to deal with the sort of like Yeah.

[00:19:20]Exactly.

[00:19:21]>> And you ever get hair in there from Do you ever get this in shoved in?

[00:19:26]>> I'm sure. Yeah. I guess I'm not always.

[00:19:28]>> We have the same exact hair.

[00:19:30]>> You guys do really have similar hair.

[00:19:32]>> Should we Should we switch?

[00:19:34]>> You have You have bangs and Kyle doesn't.

[00:19:37]>> Yeah.

[00:19:37]>> Yeah.

[00:19:37]>> Is that the only difference? Our curl patterns are >> curl patterns and the length is >> I'm looking like exactly.

[00:19:45]>> Come on. Let's get this together.

[00:19:46]>> You're No. No. You have more Shirley Temples happening.

[00:19:49]>> You have better curls. What is your Okay. Well, let's let's get into I was going to say, should we open up the episode with Chris sitting next to you as if I'm >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Kyle.

[00:20:01]So, >> we could try that. I feel like this is a perfect way to open it as you guys talking about your curls.

[00:20:06]>> I don't know why I've never put this together.

[00:20:08]>> I put it I I I was I was watching your incredible special as I promised you I would do. I ran >> in the middle of the street.

[00:20:15]>> Yes, we were.

[00:20:16]>> Yeah.

[00:20:17]>> Chris was flying by >> as I'm sure he did.

[00:20:19]>> I didn't know you drive a truck. I was It was It's a It's a Broncos Sport.

[00:20:24]>> Oh, one of like the new ones.

[00:20:26]>> It's a 2022.

[00:20:27]>> Okay, that's nice. The Broncos are coming back.

[00:20:29]>> Truck would be funny if I was in it.

[00:20:30]This is a >> I I swear I saw like a flatbed truck flying by.

[00:20:35]>> I was flying.

[00:20:36]>> Yeah, >> I was flying.

[00:20:37]>> So, you're you're walking on the street.

[00:20:39]>> He's Kyle is exiting I believe.

[00:20:42]>> It's true.

[00:20:42]>> Okay. Yeah.

[00:20:43]>> And you're driving for context, put some put some c put some money in the meter.

[00:20:49]>> Oh, yeah. Sure. Sure. Sure.

[00:20:50]>> You wanted to keep the party going.

[00:20:51]>> So, you were still going. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:20:53]Yeah.

[00:20:54]>> Yes.

[00:20:54]>> And I got and I and I love their cheeseburger and their fries.

[00:20:56]>> Cheeseburger is great. They're great.

[00:20:58]>> But yes, I was running to uh this is the type of story that like it's like I thought I would probably end up talking about the fact that we've recently run into each other, but there's no way this is interesting for any >> I don't know. Like this is a piece of this is Hollywood life. I I see it so vividly cuz I usually don't don't if I see something in the wild, I usually don't say anything about it. I'm like a little I'm like a little crab on the bottom of the sea floor.

[00:21:26]>> You don't interact with the person.

[00:21:27]You're like, I know that person. It could we could have a nice exchange, but I'm going to let them live.

[00:21:30]>> For some reason, I was like, I'm going to say hi to Kyle.

[00:21:34]>> Maybe it's because of the the the lookalike thing. Yeah, maybe you're like, that's that's me. I was drawn to my own curl pattern >> and I and I I think I said hi and then Kyle very graciously owned up to not seeing my my special been out maybe 24 hours.

[00:21:48]>> Yeah. Yeah. It just came out >> which I believe you have a full two years to watch something because you you guys know so many people who are putting [ __ ] out. There's no way to stay.

[00:21:56]>> There's no way to Yeah. Absolutely.

[00:21:57]>> So the fact that you even watched it at all or even >> and I did too and loved it. I Yes.

[00:22:02]>> God Thank you guys. I think >> you didn't have to do that.

[00:22:06]I was psyched, too. And like when it came out, I don't know. I was like, >> one, I I love you. I love your work. And and we've been able to cross paths a few times. I can't say that we've like gotten to spend a ton of time together, which I don't know who's for that.

[00:22:21]>> But um >> you got you can only just if I feel like and and I I feel like you're having a moment right now. That's the way it feels to me. And like >> it's the truth. And that mo when I saw you, I was like, I have to see. Even before I had seen you, I was like, I got to see Chris's special. Like it it feels it's like it's a something's happening.

[00:22:41]It's ze.

[00:22:42]>> It's an important thing to watch. If you're in comedy, you should watch it.

[00:22:45]>> I think it could just be that I've hired a publicist.

[00:22:47]>> Oh, yeah. Sure. That's what you do.

[00:22:49]>> I think when someone has a I think it's just that. I I really think it's just that.

[00:22:53]>> I don't know. But I I think that's the shift.

[00:22:56]>> Yeah. A lot a lot of the things that I initially saw about your special were just like were definitely not publicist moves, just people online being like, "Okay, this is different. This is new.

[00:23:05]This is great." And I I saw your previous special as well. Um, which is so Yeah, cuz >> my I think I I knew about you a little bit, but like Jen I'm friends with Jen Stathsky who produced it and um >> that brought me into it and loved it as well.

[00:23:18]>> We met at a hacks event.

[00:23:20]>> We did. Did we meet?

[00:23:21]>> Guy Brandon was doing like a social experiment with us.

[00:23:24]>> That's where we met. guy was guy was interviewing us.

[00:23:27]>> Yes. He was >> about something off camera. There was no camera, but it was a very It was a >> He was talking It was It was like some sort of a gay thing that I was like I was the only straight person. I was like I can't really comment on this, but he's like this is how like I want to do a guy Brandon I this is not a very good impression >> and he will like a town crier and and and okay and then have a have a decree and then he'll and then he'll vanish.

[00:23:54]This is just like you're talking about midparty >> mid party.

[00:23:57]>> He was like what's your gay thing or something or like what's he was maybe asking me what's the gayest thing >> that I about me or something like I try I feel like I said something he was like oh my god that's nothing >> and he took off and and then and then I were then alone >> and then you're stuck >> and we're like it's nice to meet you I'm Chris it's nice yeah but I mean I've admired you guys from afar for a long time. Was that a gift though in the moment? Are you happy? Do was it afterwards? You're like, "Fuck, I got stuck in this situation. What was the aftermath of that?"

[00:24:28]>> You know, it's it's always nice to have an eccentric introduction. I think I think it's always in the same way that like trauma bonding is nice.

[00:24:37]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:24:38]>> Or or connected.

[00:24:39]>> So much better than like a boring like, "Oh, you guys should meet each other, >> right?

[00:24:42]>> Oh, hey. Yeah, nice to meet you." You know, it's like we have an event to >> Yeah. For someone to fall on that sword like, "Can you believe that just happened?"

[00:24:48]>> Right.

[00:24:49]>> It's that's always my favorite. Um, I remember it was it was shortly I think after I had done a show I was doing some music stuff with like a a headpiece.

[00:24:58]>> Oh my god.

[00:24:59]>> And you had an AV cart.

[00:25:00]>> Yes. I had an AVI. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you walked by. You're like very funny.

[00:25:04]The head piece. I was like, "Oh, whoa.

[00:25:06]Thank you." Like I guess that was after we met. But >> you were opening for Carmen.

[00:25:12]And you were doing like a wholesome rap of some kind.

[00:25:15]>> I was doing these songs, these short songs. Yeah. There might have been Oh, thank you. Well, I was you were doing all sorts of [ __ ] >> I was doing a pedal to like distort my voice and stuff and like kind of talking in between.

[00:25:26]>> Did you ever do that again?

[00:25:27]>> I've done it a little bit here and there, but I've just uh I want to do it again. I did like a show before the pandemic at >> Yeah.

[00:25:34]>> Dynasty typewriter and then like everything happened and >> a challenging room.

[00:25:38]>> Challenging room. Yeah. Yeah. But um I'm going to bring it back. But the point is, I was very flattered that you, one of our incredible standup comics of this time, well, thank you.

[00:25:49]>> would would see because because I think my insecurity of me being on stage by myself, not doing characters, not doing sketch or whatever, I'm still very insecure about it and working on it. So, thank you.

[00:25:58]>> I mean, >> that was very flatter. It was a very flattering moment to me.

[00:26:00]>> To even think that you would have performance insecurity at all is it's tough to imagine.

[00:26:05]>> Yeah. Right. I mean, I I >> You guys are like ironclad. I would think that you would be >> you >> it never goes away. It never goes away.

[00:26:12]I think that's part of the creative >> beast because like we'll we'll bring people on like you know that we are so decades ahead of us have incredible bodies of work have done so many things and they're like yeah I still get it. I still doing something slightly new and they're like of course.

[00:26:27]>> Especially after you do a special and then you have zero material.

[00:26:30]>> Yeah.

[00:26:30]>> And then you you feel like completely exposed >> or you re Yeah. reach some height publicly where it's like there's a public opinion that you might be funny and then you're trying something new >> that you haven't done. That is what's scary.

[00:26:42]>> Yeah. Cuz you have to have to.

[00:26:45]>> Yeah. And then you Oh god. And also the more you like the more you're in like a press circle, the further you get from the creative of it. Sure.

[00:26:55]>> And then you're just completely [ __ ] >> Yeah. Yeah. You're just kind of like maintaining this thing that you created a while. Yeah. You're It's a You're full politician. You feel like Elizabeth Warren.

[00:27:04]>> I'm I'm Elizabeth I've been Elizabeth Warren for about a month.

[00:27:07]>> Yes. A manic Elizabeth Warren.

[00:27:09]>> And have you had to deal with this? I'm sure you haven't had to deal with this level of press before.

[00:27:13]>> Oh, never.

[00:27:13]>> Never. Right.

[00:27:14]>> Oh, no.

[00:27:15]>> And And so, how are you handling it? Cuz you >> Not Well, no. I'm I'm at I'm at a zero.

[00:27:19]I'm at I'm I'm seeing the clips coming Seth making him fun. That was fun cuz Seth's like a cool cousin.

[00:27:27]>> Yeah. Yeah. You're like, "Oh, you feel like you get like 10 minutes with my cool older cousin."

[00:27:33]>> Totally.

[00:27:34]>> No. Is that I know you guys spoke about it and I I'm sorry. I don't fully remember the exchange because >> Okay, Kyle.

[00:27:41]>> No, I [ __ ] up.

[00:27:42]>> You [ __ ] up. You already [ __ ] it up.

[00:27:44]You don't remember. You don't remember the whole what? 9 minute segment from Seth.

[00:27:48]>> And don't and and also if you don't don't if you don't feel like revealing this, fully fine. Yeah. But you mentioned Seth a handful of times.

[00:27:57]>> One immediate thing I was going to say was Kyle's going to go >> my heart.

[00:28:01]>> How long is it?

[00:28:03]>> I asked that to two guests and now and I'm >> Yeah, you're the how long guy >> and now I'm the How long?

[00:28:11]>> How long is it?

[00:28:12]>> How wide.

[00:28:12]>> How long?

[00:28:13]>> Okay.

[00:28:14]>> I like I like not how big. How long?

[00:28:15]>> How long?

[00:28:16]>> Seriously. I mean, >> yeah.

[00:28:18]>> Do you do you mind telling us what the size of your No, ask the personal >> Seth. You Seth comes up in your special a handful of times. You're in Chicago during the special.

[00:28:29]>> That's the thing. So, I get these teric things in different cities where I can't stop thinking about I'm I truly was like, don't talk about Seth Myers. Don't talk about >> Seth. You say that in the special, but is that true. You were trying not to talk about him.

[00:28:39]>> So, you I literally was telling people I'm going to anytime I go to Chicago, I think about I I do bits about Lauren Michaels hiding in the rafters to scout talent >> or or I think about Seth. I think for some reason I'm always talking about or like or like oh you're mad I'm not Amy Pol or stuff like that right >> and I just couldn't stop talking about Seth and >> so that was that truly was a one-off like it's not >> yeah no no I never the perig stuff I was doing in every state >> yeah yeah >> and we continue yeah that's that's >> that was also another clip that made the rounds that I loved seeing you and you and Mike talk >> uh yeah what is the >> or he held me out to dry >> did he >> oh I mean Mike's the It was um what was that movie?

[00:29:19]>> He's overrated right now.

[00:29:22]>> What was that movie? The assassination of Jesse James. But yeah. Yeah, it was it was that that's what I kept thinking.

[00:29:27]>> I'm I I actually do want to ask you though some very generic basic questions about your work. What is What is your proportion of like Yeah. pre-planned written to >> AdLib?

[00:29:40]I get really emot when I get emotional.

[00:29:43]I mean you can tell when something like >> is of the moment or something.

[00:29:46]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the special like I get really I have this like impossible quota in my head of like like a laugh decel >> and it's it's truly the most unwell thing about me where like I'm trying to >> if I'm not getting like a certain high laugh then I I like completely freak out and then I listen to it back afterwards and I'm like what what was I why why it was fine.

[00:30:08]>> Yeah. Of course. Yeah. So that stuff I get kind of like >> So you kind of just like you you you're you start putting out more. You start being like trying more stuff. Your body >> just start berating. I I think in the special several times I like I get I get upset that the audience isn't laughing.

[00:30:22]>> Right. Right. Yes. Yeah. You do Yeah.

[00:30:24]You always like you re like fully rewind a bit to do it again like and we kept it we kept it we kept it in. So I I don't know the percentage of if you're doing like an hour in a theater like there has to be a lot of stuff that you're doing >> just for that space. I don't >> I also would imagine that allows it to feel alive in a specific which is necessary.

[00:30:47]>> It can die really easily. It can get really stale. I don't like I don't like getting cute with it at all. So I like stuff kind of even like changing things like yes that week you need to I was writing a lot of new stuff that week trying out the night before >> and then and then hope and then because in your eyes I don't like when you can see in the comic's eyes that they when they know it's going to work your character.

[00:31:10]>> Yes. Yeah. Sure. Sure.

[00:31:12]>> Here it comes. Right. Right. Like it's like get ready. It's not >> Yeah. Yeah. It's humiliating. I also, again, this is I I don't want to play like kind of com the comedy detective.

[00:31:25]Uh >> oh, you can play the play.

[00:31:27]>> But like what I love about what I love about the special and your work is that like I do think you're like kind of I'm articulating this in the moment, so I might [ __ ] up, but like you are sort of playing to the highest common denomin like you're using references that I don't necessarily think are incredibly broad, right?

[00:31:44]>> No. So, you're like talking to the audience like we're all on the same page. And I'm kind of surprised that the audience is like >> laughing so aoriously to what I think is like that's kind of a specific reference that I think is very hilarious.

[00:31:59]>> Yeah, that's what my director Bill said.

[00:32:00]He was like the first time I saw your stuff, I was like surely I'm the only person that could that could think this is funny.

[00:32:05]>> Right. And I think that that's I I think it's also like if if you feel if you if you know some if you feel like the reference is the funny thing >> and you can say you can communicate it in a certain way even if they don't know the reference. I think there's like a a feel a sematic thing of like but that's funny >> right and I could also imagine that your audience like I mean your audience is a maybe a specific audience. I don't know maybe you're appealing to a very broad audience but like your audience knows what you know >> I think we I think we have a lot of overlap. I also have I I recently have realized that I think I have like a pre-operational issue like that that you see in like young children where I think every I think everyone has experienced what I've experienced. So I think if I reference this thing it's like well I saw that so you must have seen that.

[00:32:52]>> Yeah. Like even like I'm I wish I could just pull all of them out of my head right now, but you the Terry Gross bit with Adam Driver like >> going so hard into the sonhe time of it all like for some reason like that what is a pretty specific scene in Marriage Story.

[00:33:09]>> Oh it's very quick >> it's very brutal. The scene is the scene is brutal. The scene is rough >> and he's like breathing into the mic a lot >> and we were using the being alive at the recording but then we found out that like obviously Sonheim the estate wasn't going to allow that so we had to re-record we had to record a fake >> Mark Cer how is this person I want to ask about he reached out Mark Cer you didn't check yeah to provide some context there's a moment in the university you went to >> yes um you have him in your special >> pretty >> you put you put up a photo of him that I would imagine is his uh president of the university head shot.

[00:33:48]>> It's the Google image when it when it comes up >> and his name next to it.

[00:33:51]>> Yes.

[00:33:51]>> Um so you didn't check to get approval to use his name and show his photo in the approval in the special >> and and and we were imagining how much that will [ __ ] with his sense of reality just tuning into >> Yeah.

[00:34:03]>> something and seeing himself me mentioned in this.

[00:34:06]>> Yeah. And I thought like oh I hope it's okay. Maybe maybe you're going to get in trouble. But also for this guy, if he's able to take a second, like this is probably the best thing that's ever happened to him. Like everybody like kids on campus are going to be calling him C and being like, "You're awesome."

[00:34:21]>> He signed his email to me. C >> really >> and he and he was like, "Next time you're in Saratoga, sushi and apple teinis are on me. C." And I heard that he actually dropped in the special. I'm trying to encourage him to to drop the C in the in the middle name because it's really clunky.

[00:34:37]>> Yeah. But >> it's it's basically a five-minute bit about that.

[00:34:40]>> Yes. Yeah.

[00:34:40]>> And he supposedly in the latest mass email to the college, he did in fact drop the C and he's going by Mark Connor, which actually makes me feel a little bad.

[00:34:49]>> Yeah. Well, you know, maybe he's wanted to his whole life and all he needed was a little just a little push.

[00:34:54]>> Do you now you must you must feel like the chances are decent that there this is going to have some sort of real world >> blowback >> response.

[00:35:05]>> Oh yeah. Yeah.

[00:35:06]>> Yeah.

[00:35:07]I know.

[00:35:08]>> Is that frightening or is it like I mean and I don't think they did anything malicious by >> any but like >> mostly people when I speak about them >> either either they when I hear from them it's usually like excitement.

[00:35:22]>> Yeah.

[00:35:23]>> I think the ones that don't like it I don't hear from >> rarely. So I think that allows me to >> to keep keep doing it >> and and Yeah. And the the the the boy that I mentioned in Hatational, like in the store in Saratoga, >> he he and I I think are doing an event together at Hatational this summer and Hational even though I called them like psychopaths and everything and like bad people like they're they're still really excited about it.

[00:35:50]>> That's so great. I mean, you do you don't hold back. You like will say things about people commenting on them or whatever that is like oh like I remember the first clip scene where you talk about Colin Jo.

[00:36:01]>> Oh yeah, I never heard from him. Never heard from him. Um, but like >> you know, you do it in in in such a fun like playful way. I mean, it is >> it is different than actually taking shots at people and being like this is stupid and this is bad, which is great because like you should be able to like, you know, comment on these social things without being like mean or trying to take them down, which is really refreshing.

[00:36:25]>> I appreciate that. It It's It's definitely talking some [ __ ] >> Yes. But it's also like what's the big >> also [ __ ] like you can still like the person and still have some respect for them.

[00:36:37]>> I'm having this thought in the moment but like that is cool because like that is what like text threads are. You know what I mean? You're like it's like inside you're talking about Yeah. Yeah.

[00:36:46]Yeah.

[00:36:46]>> Or in the car after an event.

[00:36:48]>> Yeah. Oh, it's just >> Yeah, it's it's it's great. It does have that that nature to it. You're like [ __ ] around with your friends >> in your spe in your standup. like you're just going. I mean, like that's the other thing I wanted to go back to. It is so physical obviously like it makes sense that you would feel like a lower decel of laughter and just that your body would just >> there's a ringing in my ear also from the things that I'm doing sometimes from the ver because I doing a lot of whipping around >> and like and when you're hurting yourself on stage also it is that is also a really >> crazy thing to be like in there was a show in Atlanta I did where I I was trying to do this thing I saw Ice Cube do >> where I just like leaning it. And I think I [ __ ] up my ACL, so I had to do a lot of the show lying down.

[00:37:37]>> But they thought it was I think they thought it was part of it.

[00:37:40]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:37:40]>> And did you um What was Ice Cube doing?

[00:37:44]>> Yeah. Well, you don't I don't want you to do the thing.

[00:37:47]>> I'm not going to do I was about to do the thing.

[00:37:49]>> It was It was the beginning of him doing the [ __ ] walk and Okay.

[00:37:52]>> But it was it was him it he was he was just entering the stage and his legs were here, but his his torso was so far back and I was I was really cocky. It was something I saw in Kazain.

[00:38:04]>> No, no, no. I wasn't explaining.

[00:38:05]>> Did you explain to the audience that like I'm about to do something Ice Cube did?

[00:38:08]>> No, no, not even.

[00:38:09]>> It's for yourself.

[00:38:10]>> It I it I tapped into it. It was a clip I saw in 2006 that I got off Kuzah and it was it was Ice Cube entering and I was the crowd was so hot >> that I was I was feeling cocky and I was in a good outfit and it just I tweaked it. going into the recesses of your mind like I got to pull out that cube seawalk. And you do mention the seawalk though in >> I do the seawalk at least twice >> and it's not as smooth as it was in my head. I thought I was doing like Sabrina Williams style. Remember when she she whipped it out >> on the Super Bowl. It's like her Fouchy on a porch or something.

[00:38:46]>> Yeah. The Kendrick uh >> Oh, yes.

[00:38:48]>> Halftime show. Yeah.

[00:38:50]>> Yes.

[00:38:50]>> Um had a moment for sure.

[00:38:53]>> Yeah.

[00:38:53]>> It's a what kind of a moment? I said it had a moment. It was >> Yeah, it really did.

[00:38:56]>> Had a moment. I mean, like in I got to say >> Yeah. I'm from San Diego and like a community called Scris Ranch, which is like, you know, upper middle class. Scripts Ranch.

[00:39:09]>> Scripps Ranch.

[00:39:10]>> Yeah. Yeah. Scripts Ranch. Whoa.

[00:39:11]>> But they but but like >> in circa 2002, 2003. I mean, it's like mostly white people and like seeing the like 15year-old, 16-year-olds like learning the the [ __ ] walk. It is like so demented.

[00:39:27]>> It's completely demonic.

[00:39:29]>> I think it's really cool.

[00:39:31]>> Let me see.

[00:39:33]>> I don't know. I could do that part.

[00:39:35]>> Is that something that happens?

[00:39:36]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's That's kind of the frosting on the cake.

[00:39:40]>> Yeah. Yeah. It's kind You got to be able to do the cripwalk to do that part. the the if you can do and I'm not I'm not doing it well at all and I think it is a call to arms against the bloods, right?

[00:39:50]>> Oh, I don't know.

[00:39:51]>> It's definitely something that I feel like I'm nervous to say on this podcast.

[00:39:56]Absolutely.

[00:39:56]>> Oh, it's kind of like a we're about to go do something.

[00:39:59]>> Well, I think it's a call to arms for the Crips and so I think inherently it is um anti-bloods.

[00:40:05]>> You were big into Kazah. That was your sort of file sharing program of >> Yeah. Yeah. I came um Napster was was fast but that was just I loved nap Napster even just saying Napster just >> I mean >> what is love by Hataway I got that off there >> is it like I'm going to say the most this like Napster I feel like that began that's that started >> that started it was the first streamer >> it was the beginning >> that was sort of like the end of an era >> and it was only it was like six months it was it was this incredible El Dorado time >> yeah just get as much as you could download it on it Turn it onto a CD.

[00:40:40]>> Grab it.

[00:40:41]>> Yeah. Um, >> were you guys in high school? I was in middle school.

[00:40:44]>> Yeah, I was Yeah, I was probably We were probably freshman.

[00:40:47]>> Yeah, freshman.

[00:40:48]>> When did you When did we graduate?

[00:40:49]>> 03.

[00:40:50]>> 03. Yeah. What about you?

[00:40:51]>> You graduated high school 03?

[00:40:53]>> Yeah.

[00:40:53]>> Oh, I graduated 05. So, you're just When people are more accomplished than me, I think they're much older than me. You're not even that much older than me.

[00:41:00]>> When people are taller than me, I think they're much more much older than me.

[00:41:03]>> Like, oh, you must have graduated.

[00:41:05]>> We have a lot of misunderstandings about age. Um, you know, we brought Yeah, we probably have a lot of over overlap in terms of references.

[00:41:12]>> Yeah.

[00:41:12]>> Did you see Wild Wild West in the theaters?

[00:41:16]>> I saw Men in Black in theaters.

[00:41:17]>> Okay. Okay. That Yeah.

[00:41:19]>> And I think I think the steampunk of Wild Wild West I think I said, you know what? I'm going to wait till this is released.

[00:41:24]>> I think I think what was big for me in theaters in high school was like it might this might not all be right, but like Zoolander, Something About Mary, >> American Pie.

[00:41:35]>> Yep. Reququum for a Dream. You got you got classic high school Touchdston for yourself for movie theaters.

[00:41:43]>> I remember I remember Shrek right after right after 911.

[00:41:47]>> Yeah, >> I think it was that was >> that's what allowed you to calm down.

[00:41:52]>> That's what all we all learned how to laugh again when Shrek came out. Yeah.

[00:41:56]>> Um, were you doing were you doing or do you have >> a great live in a swamp or something like that?

[00:42:07]>> Um, I was never an ogre. I I if someone asked me recently who I would be if I were in the Shrek universe. Oh.

[00:42:16]>> And um they they cast me as the gingerbread a character who's who dies and really quick.

[00:42:22]>> Yeah. But >> I I could see you more as I could see you more as a donkey.

[00:42:27]>> We started it.

[00:42:28]>> Yeah. The donkeyy's donkeyy's >> the donkey. So, but then you have to just do Eddie Murphy, right? How else can you play it? How are people doing that without doing Eddie Murphy?

[00:42:35]>> It's I try I did it recently. You can't >> you put on Trek recently for my daughter and like it's uh it's like kind of >> Have you watched it recently? I don't know.

[00:42:47]>> No. It's pretty uh >> it's very like anti- Disney. It's like kind of like or like kind of like anti like we're doing something different with the fairy tale.

[00:42:57]>> Yeah. Yeah. It's a little edge lordy for for one >> which was cool to see because like you could just sort sort of feel a little bit of the thirstiness of like this ain't your grandma's anime.

[00:43:13]>> Yeah. Cuz don't they don't they like a lot of them die, right?

[00:43:18]>> Yeah. The Pinocchio St. I don't Pinocchio is horny maybe or something. I don't know.

[00:43:22]>> Yeah.

[00:43:22]>> Yeah.

[00:43:22]>> Yeah.

[00:43:23]>> How did your daughter react to it?

[00:43:25]>> She's like uh she's like, "Yeah, it's cool." No, she she doesn't really talk that much. Uh she seemed to enjoy it.

[00:43:31]No, she gets bored by everything. I mean, >> how's she feel about Peppa Pig?

[00:43:34]>> We haven't really done that, but she's into um she's aware of it. I think she's going to start asking for it. We're She likes Blueie and Paw Patrol and >> she really likes Disney. She really likes Mickey Mouse and like Mickey Mouse's buddies.

[00:43:46]>> The standards. The classics.

[00:43:48]>> Yeah.

[00:43:48]>> Yeah. the class, >> which is good for me. I like I like them, too.

[00:43:51]>> They're always great.

[00:43:52]>> Disneyland's awesome. But wait, let me So, just to So, in high school, when did you Were you doing comedy in high school?

[00:43:59]>> Yeah, I started I was uh we were doing videos.

[00:44:02]>> You were doing videos.

[00:44:03]>> We were doing videos >> like with a camcorder like >> Yeah. Yeah. DV Mini DV.

[00:44:07]>> Mini DV.

[00:44:08]>> We were editing.

[00:44:09]>> I get my dad's mini DV and make videos >> or And even before that when you had to film just in sequential >> Yes.

[00:44:14]>> order that that whole thing. But then and then plays. I was doing the plays doing plays >> and then and then stand up started junior year >> cuz my mom was like you got to you got to pull together. I was doing that in school and she was like if you want to be >> a comedic actor you got to do standup and I hated standup. I hated watching standup.

[00:44:33]>> Really?

[00:44:33]>> The Comedy Central presents like made me sick.

[00:44:35]>> Yeah. Yeah. So, but you started doing it your junior year in high school. And where did you grow up?

[00:44:40]>> Massachusetts. Central Mass.

[00:44:41]>> Where were you doing standup? a place called the Marramac Broad Street Grill was the first place and they had car seats in the audience and it was for like it was like a high schooler open mic night.

[00:44:51]>> Yeah.

[00:44:51]>> And it was like van seats that were ripped out of a van and just lined up and it was I was just dry heaving in the parking lot.

[00:45:00]>> I talked about seeing deer about how everyone wanted to talk when people saw deer.

[00:45:07]It was something about in the suburbs the pride that people had about the amount of deer that they saw. That was >> that is that holds up. Yeah. Like like parents will like take my parents will like take photos of the animals they see and be like saw this out the backyard.

[00:45:22]This was in our backyard, >> right?

[00:45:24]>> There's like a lot of pride the closer it is to your home >> and the and the amount and and also those trail cams are kind of creepy because there's some animals that are not native to the habitat that are showing up >> right >> in the like iguanas and stuff in the northeast. There's some new stuff there.

[00:45:37]So, that was my first bit ever.

[00:45:39]>> That's good.

[00:45:39]>> And >> that's good. That's good. That's pretty good. That's good.

[00:45:44]>> You guys were Did you Did you go to You didn't go to high school together.

[00:45:48]>> No. No. I grew up in the Midwest. I I was doing like improv classes at Second City. My mom signed me up for it. I was also like I mean I was doing fine in school, but I was like, you know, disruptive.

[00:46:00]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:46:01]>> Had a good teacher who was like got me into theater and then my mom got me into doing these improv classes.

[00:46:06]>> The teacher saw you kind of acted out be like, "Hey, let's bring this to the stage.

[00:46:09]>> Let's bring this to the stage." She She would give me some time to like perform during class.

[00:46:13]>> Same.

[00:46:13]>> Really?

[00:46:14]>> Same.

[00:46:14]>> What was your teacher?

[00:46:15]>> Mrs. Constantino.

[00:46:16]>> What grade?

[00:46:17]>> She was like, "At Mr. Fleming, we will be giving a creative assignment."

[00:46:20]>> Wow.

[00:46:21]>> Yeah.

[00:46:21]>> That's incredible. My teacher, >> which is kind of condescending in hindsight, >> right?

[00:46:25]>> Oh, >> it's like a little embarrassing to think back on that. Okay. So, you took you took improv?

[00:46:30]>> I took improv in high school.

[00:46:32]>> Yeah.

[00:46:32]>> Um and did made movies with my friends and like showed them during lunch in the AV room and >> Oh my god.

[00:46:38]>> Yeah. Um what what what year what grade was this good teacher >> that?

[00:46:43]>> Junior and senior. She I had her twice.

[00:46:45]>> And wait, so >> I had her twice. I had my teacher twice, too. Two two years in a row.

[00:46:49]>> I had a first Sorry.

[00:46:50]>> No, please. You >> We had the same teacher two years in a row. This is incredible.

[00:46:55]>> This is rare.

[00:46:56]>> I had a first grade, second grade, and third grade. I I had a lot of teachers that that were like that stuck with you.

[00:47:01]They're like, "We want to teach Chris.

[00:47:02]>> We got to keep Yeah, we got to stay.

[00:47:04]>> We can't release him yet." So, >> we can't have another teacher start all over with this guy. We need to build.

[00:47:09]>> There's too much to know. So, you were having cuz you've told this before. Your teacher let you do like five minutes at the end of the class.

[00:47:15]>> Yeah. Like random.

[00:47:16]>> Uh, excuse me.

[00:47:18]>> Yeah. Some stupid charactery like songy movement. Like, >> I would write stories and they would and she would have me read them at the end of Friday. Yeah. If they were well behaved, I would read these stories >> and they were like and uh it was made of butt.

[00:47:34]>> They weren't even funny stories.

[00:47:35]>> They were just cool.

[00:47:36]>> They were just they were just like folk tales.

[00:47:38]>> Just folk tales. Wow. That's really cool.

[00:47:40]>> I forgot about that.

[00:47:42]>> So like I guess the question I want to ask like did you So did you have this >> You guys are good interviewers by the way. I wasn't expecting that.

[00:47:47]>> Are we really?

[00:47:48]>> Yeah. You guys very sweet.

[00:47:49]>> Did So did you have this like thing that you didn't know what to do with and it was her and your mom like being like channel this somehow? I was I didn't want to do any I was like >> I was just kind of like [ __ ] it.

[00:48:01]>> Yeah.

[00:48:02]>> Like my friends were the ones that wanted to make videos and I would like be funny in the videos, but I didn't >> I didn't get like organizing it being like let's do this >> until standup and then I was like, "Okay, I need to if it's just me, I need to like >> Yeah.

[00:48:15]>> Otherwise, and if I was even part of a play, I would feel like a little bit like whatever."

[00:48:20]>> Right. Right. I I think like the I don't want to say anti-stop, but like feeling like >> this is >> [ __ ] it.

[00:48:27]>> Yeah. Yeah. That's where your sort of creative energy came from maybe a little bit.

[00:48:32]>> I think having to Yeah.

[00:48:34]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:48:35]>> But then when it's just you then you're like, "Okay, then I got to get responsible." Then I got serious about it.

[00:48:39]>> And then when you left high school, is that when you were like, "I'm doing this. I'm doing some version of this like acting or standup."

[00:48:45]>> Yeah. I remember going to college and making it like I I would got all my friends in. I would be like, "We're all going to do standup and we're going to do I mean I we were in a sketch group together."

[00:48:55]>> What was the name of the sketches?

[00:48:56]>> The Sketchies.

[00:48:56]>> The Sketchies. We come together.

[00:48:58]>> That's actually really awesome.

[00:48:59]>> That's great, dude. Let me give you some love for that, dude. The Sketchies. It would be great.

[00:49:04]>> Name it.

[00:49:04]>> That's actually pretty good.

[00:49:07]Sketchies. Who we got here?

[00:49:08]>> Okay.

[00:49:08]>> Ryan Bre.

[00:49:10]>> We got We got Buck Leard.

[00:49:12]>> That's a great name.

[00:49:13]>> Jeremy Conn.

[00:49:14]>> Jeremy Con. Rachel Rodman.

[00:49:15]>> Okay, nice.

[00:49:16]>> Melissa Stripe. We got Brian Griffin.

[00:49:19]Not the Family Guy guy guy, but but so he changed his name to Barn.

[00:49:22]>> Barn.

[00:49:23]>> He was the leader and he was so Oh, he was we called him the last American cowboy. He was older than us. He would drive a Jeep around smoking cigarettes.

[00:49:31]>> Wow.

[00:49:32]>> That's so cool. But you remember all their names right away. That's >> Michael Zegan was one of the founding members. He's an actor now.

[00:49:37]>> Michael Zegan. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:49:39]>> It was Yeah. Yeah. We It was We bombed.

[00:49:42]No one liked our sketches. So, wait, did it exist prior to you being there or >> Oh, yeah.

[00:49:48]>> Okay. Okay. Yeah. Institution audition that you were brought into.

[00:49:52]>> And again, I feel like I'm putting you on the spot here, but like >> that's okay.

[00:49:55]>> But it's kind of part of it. You know, we kind of got to put him on the spot.

[00:49:58]Cut anything you don't want.

[00:50:00]>> Okay. Just give me a chance.

[00:50:01]>> Yeah. Okay. Just warm up. Just let just get comfortable.

[00:50:04]>> We've been talking for 30 minutes. Is that possible?

[00:50:06]>> Yeah. It's crazy, right? Just zooming back.

[00:50:07]>> What could have started when we were pre pre Did you start actually started?

[00:50:11]Yeah, probably two, three minutes of down time.

[00:50:14]>> Okay, so we're looking at 29 minutes.

[00:50:17]>> It's like 29 minutes, >> dude. [ __ ] it. Let's just round up to 30. Why the hell?

[00:50:22]>> Let's [ __ ] riff. Let's just go nuts.

[00:50:24]>> Wow.

[00:50:24]>> And so you guys were doing >> I wasn't expecting you guys to be like >> kind of like you were actually like down >> nice interviewers.

[00:50:30]>> Oh, that's great. I mean that Yeah, nice interviewers. Kind of like to mess around, goof around a little bit.

[00:50:35]>> A little bit of everything here. Little a little bit impractical jokers, a little bit >> little bit of dick havoc.

[00:50:41]>> Yeah. Yeah. That's how we describe ourselves.

[00:50:43]>> Dick Cavit. Yeah.

[00:50:44]>> Um you guys would do a show like what every month?

[00:50:48]>> No, we we we we would do it once a semester and we would release we would do a live thing too at the com comedy festival. Comfest.

[00:50:59]>> Comfest at your college.

[00:51:00]>> Oh no, he forgot. He's not I think we need to call it a comfest.

[00:51:06]Yeah. Yeah. Can we start? Yeah, let's We should probably wrap this up.

[00:51:10]>> But it was But we would only do one >> one show. And then this the tradition was >> I hated this. The It was too small. The tradition was we would show the episode.

[00:51:21]>> Yeah.

[00:51:22]>> In in a in a theater.

[00:51:24]>> And there was always a tech problem. And so like the tech guys were having to like >> it was always an hour late and we were sit the the tradition was to sit in the front drinking 40s. And it's like I had to be like >> filmed it.

[00:51:36]>> That's right.

[00:51:36]>> It was film sketches.

[00:51:38]>> Yeah.

[00:51:39]>> Because I'm like, "What the [ __ ] is is is this PERSON TALKING ABOUT? I HAD NO IDEA WHAT TYPE OF SHOW IT WAS. We're sitting in the audience. It's like meta performance." Okay, go on. I'm sorry. I was like, "That was so [ __ ] up. I'm sorry."

[00:51:51]>> So, we're showing it and I had to stop the tradition of the drinking the 40s cuz I'm like often times we're bombing and for us to be >> right >> us to be we're we're kind of counting our chickens before they're hatching.

[00:52:02]>> Yeah. celebrating in front of everybody >> 40s with zero laughs be after being an hour late.

[00:52:07]>> Yeah, that's not good for an audience.

[00:52:08]>> So, I think I stopped that. I don't think that tradition happens anymore.

[00:52:11]>> Okay.

[00:52:12]>> But no, we were making funky stuff.

[00:52:15]>> About an hour.

[00:52:16]>> Wow.

[00:52:17]>> The rule was that you couldn't shoot anything on campus because it was nothing like college related. We'd have to go to other to do sight specific work.

[00:52:24]>> Wow.

[00:52:24]>> And it was a >> And so you it would just be a compilation of several sketches.

[00:52:29]>> Yes. With no through line sometime. No through line. No through line. We did we were our comedy group. We did >> some about us.

[00:52:35]>> Yeah, let's talk about us. Good name.

[00:52:36]So, our comedy group, it was amazing.

[00:52:37]Our sketches were awesome. But we we did one sketch show every semester and it was like a people would come and drink and get really drunk >> and we got kicked out of the theater at some point. So, it was a similar thing like we we got in trouble. We got kicked out of >> We were the opposite. We were like we kind of got we got a party and like they found beer cans in the in the trash can.

[00:52:57]>> Yeah. You were denture diving at the >> We kind of got I think like we [ __ ] over. We It was Well, it was not our last year. It was maybe the second to last year.

[00:53:05]>> Second to last. Yeah.

[00:53:06]>> I think after we left like USC became a very like I feel like >> Oh, you went to USC?

[00:53:12]>> A ton of impact.

[00:53:12]>> God damn. With all the Spielberg statues.

[00:53:15]>> Absolutely. Yeah.

[00:53:16]>> Yeah. It really affected it really made a big impression on us. All the Spielberg statues.

[00:53:21]>> It was really nice. It was really nice to go to school with those.

[00:53:23]>> I lived by West Adams for a little while when I first moved here.

[00:53:26]>> Oh, wow. And I actually there was a there was a frat that was keeping uh pit bulls >> and they would go on vacation and leave their pit bulls outside in these kennels. And so my landlord was like, "You got to liberate those pit bulls."

[00:53:38]>> Wow.

[00:53:38]>> So I had to go break in with like a wrench and free these dogs that were like snarling at me and it was the craziest [ __ ] >> So wait, so you're like So I had to go in and free these dogs because >> she pulled up in a van.

[00:53:50]>> Your landlord >> Simone.

[00:53:52]>> Wow. And you're living somewhere else nearby. You're like >> I was like there's these dogs that I think are in the rain and they're not being fed cuz they're like these like football players or whatever.

[00:54:00]>> So awful.

[00:54:01]>> It was really [ __ ] up. But I li I liberated them.

[00:54:04]>> Wow. And so where did they go?

[00:54:06]>> This lady Simone got them rehomed somewhere and the guys were like whatever.

[00:54:10]>> Simone is was the landlord.

[00:54:11]>> The land lady.

[00:54:12]>> Wow. Shout out to Simone. You guys are you guys are heroes. You guys are dog heroes.

[00:54:16]>> This was a long time ago. I hadn't really thought about that.

[00:54:18]>> I mean this is this is huge. This is you get you got to >> but also like that's such a specific dynamic relationship between >> she was so badass >> and Simone.

[00:54:28]>> She was so she could make me do anything.

[00:54:30]>> Wow.

[00:54:31]>> She I used to pay my rent by she'd be in bed and I'd just like go into her. She'd be like come in and I'd like put the thing on like on her bed and just like kind of walk out. She was like such a powerhouse.

[00:54:41]>> But she could make you do anything.

[00:54:43]>> She could. Do are you also somebody who's just like down to go do stuff or like do >> I love I love um I love something like that.

[00:54:50]>> Like a weird thing like >> if you were like, "Hey, there's like a if there's any anything dog related, I'm I'm I'll jump the fence. I'll I'll I'll get bit."

[00:55:00]>> That's very sweet.

[00:55:00]>> That's very Do you have a dog?

[00:55:02]>> Three.

[00:55:02]>> Wow.

[00:55:03]>> Do you guys >> I have a dog.

[00:55:05]>> What kind?

[00:55:05]>> Uh it's he's a terrier. 90% terrier, 10% Shih Tzu.

[00:55:10]>> Okay.

[00:55:11]>> He's like a He's like Chihuahua in there. No Chihuahua. It looks like he's a dachshun almost because he's longer than he's like a seven 16 pound terrier with his ears aren't clipped. His tail isn't clipped. So it's like >> no crops.

[00:55:22]>> No crops.

[00:55:23]>> So floppy.

[00:55:23]>> Floppy.

[00:55:24]>> You know what I think about dachshunds?

[00:55:26]>> I think that they're they're a sign of mischief.

[00:55:29]>> Mhm.

[00:55:29]>> And good fortune.

[00:55:30]>> Really?

[00:55:30]>> Whenever I see a dachshund or I saw a wire-haired one today, like the professorial type.

[00:55:34]>> Yeah.

[00:55:35]>> I go >> I go, "Things are going to be all right."

[00:55:38]>> Wow.

[00:55:38]>> Long-haired, that's the more kind of far kind.

[00:55:41]>> Yeah. Yeah, >> but whenever it's >> No, no. I like the dog stuff.

[00:55:46]>> I like Sorry.

[00:55:50]>> Just for the sake of the audience. I was just looking at Chris.

[00:55:53]>> You were gazing so supportively.

[00:55:55]>> What are you drinking, by the way, Beck?

[00:55:56]What's that cute little >> Oh, this I I get I like cute little coffees. This is um This is a cortado >> with an extra shot.

[00:56:04]>> I guess what's a cortado?

[00:56:05]>> Cortado is like a macchiato but with a little bit more milk.

[00:56:09]>> Oh, >> yeah. Yeah. What about you? A >> [ __ ] matcha latte.

[00:56:13]>> Wait, a what?

[00:56:13]>> [ __ ] Just matcha latte.

[00:56:15]>> I know. I think we're probably not supposed to be doing Starbucks for any given reason, but I'm >> Oh, no. Hey, you know, it's okay.

[00:56:20]>> We're cool here.

[00:56:20]>> We're cool. Yeah, we can do whatever.

[00:56:22]Any brand you want? Any brand you want here consume?

[00:56:24]>> Um, is this like I was using is this part of the plan as a transition. Um >> like is is this part of your plan? Is this like what you're doing now? Is this like or is this surprising? Is >> this like kind of what you want to be doing?

[00:56:38]>> No, not the podcast. like like >> this is like one time uh >> but this this is a really good question.

[00:56:44]>> I was in a I was I was in I was in high school drama and we had a person come to visit who like was a working Broadway actor was in chorus on like a Broadway show.

[00:56:56]>> Oh yeah.

[00:56:57]>> And >> and they could I mean the the respect that they must have gotten at the high we had a voiceover actor come to our college and everyone was putting on full face makeup you know this person.

[00:57:04]>> Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they'll bring me back maybe they'll take me back. It was a very big.

[00:57:08]>> He did like CD ROM voiceover. It was it was >> But for this person, it was their like dream to be on Broadway and they were on Broadway and they come to came to talk to our class and they open it up to Q&A.

[00:57:19]I was like, so what do you really want to do or >> Oh my god.

[00:57:22]>> So what's next for you? It's like what the And she's like, well, this is what I want to do.

[00:57:27]>> No, this is it. I'm doing the thing that I wanted. This is >> Who asked that?

[00:57:32]>> Me.

[00:57:33]>> Wait, you you asked like what's that?

[00:57:35]>> Cuz I did. Yeah, I didn't like I guess >> that just shows how ambitious you are, though. Even as a teen, you were like, "This can't be the end."

[00:57:40]>> And what what was her what was the reaction?

[00:57:42]>> Her response was like, "Well, this is what I I've finally made like gotten the thing that I've wanted to I've dreamt for my entire life."

[00:57:50]>> You probably sent her spiraling like you and my parents.

[00:57:54]>> She's probably in the car on the way back >> being like, "Yeah, you got you definitely got her 17-year-old like, >> what's next for you?"

[00:58:03]>> Yeah. So, what's next? Is this it? Is this it, Chris? There's like doing standup. Is that all? Or did you want to Do you have like any branding ideas?

[00:58:11]>> I want to do a lot of brand deals. I want to um Yeah, I want to I don't know.

[00:58:17]I I I right now feel very good. I feel very content.

[00:58:21]>> I mean, I would imagine I'd never had a special, but when I see somebody like you have a special like this, that is >> You're like, I could do that.

[00:58:28]>> No. No. I'm like, God, what? No. I'm like, that must feel amazing.

[00:58:32]>> Yeah.

[00:58:33]You know what I miss? I miss the I miss before I miss doing it all summer in theaters and like knowing I was working towards it and like having a little thing up my sleeve.

[00:58:43]>> Oh, that is so fun. Like it's it's about to it's >> you'll see.

[00:58:48]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I like that. I like that's my favorite part of it.

[00:58:52]>> Yeah. Are you already on to that next phase? No. Just enjoy this. You know, I'm trying to enjoy.

[00:58:59]>> I'm doing Drew Barrymore tomorrow. Oh.

[00:59:01]Oh. You guys are going to cry, right?

[00:59:04]>> That's what I'm I It's what I keep tell being told cuz >> cuz I think I think she makes everyone cry, right? A little bit.

[00:59:10]>> NPR made made me cry. NPR in the interviews, they put tissue boxes out next to you. The way that the mob digs holes in the desert, >> like there's a plan. They know what they're going to do.

[00:59:21]>> I did an interview like one one of these and I I cried like three times because they're so well researched. Yes. they bring up something that like is connected to I don't know. You're like, "Oh, I've never been asked that. I've never >> Because you're you're I'm being I'm getting ready to dodge things. I'm getting ready to be like asked like why why do you wear those clothes?" And it's like And then when they're like, >> "Hey, how do and then when they when they ask something tender?"

[00:59:44]>> Yeah.

[00:59:45]>> You can't [ __ ] believe it, >> right? Wow.

[00:59:47]>> And so I'm I think Drew >> I mean already the idea of meeting >> someone who was an ET is already >> of course that's very exciting. You might cry or you might have my experience and just like eat like now we're going to eat mac and cheese.

[01:00:00]>> Oh, wait. You you were on >> I've done it twice, Chris.

[01:00:03]>> I didn't even know this.

[01:00:04]>> Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. What happened?

[01:00:06]>> She's so awesome.

[01:00:07]>> I know. She seems so [ __ ] cool. I love how child actors when they're men become shy above or >> or or like the most tender >> social worker. Yeah, we do. But we f the first time we read like a news report, it was sort of like >> Oh.

[01:00:24]>> Uh >> Kyle Rich the news.

[01:00:26]>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure I'm sure it's gone viral since then.

[01:00:29]>> Oh yeah. Yeah. We both >> uh and then the second time there was it was around Christmas time. So there was some component of like >> holiday cheer.

[01:00:38]>> I think somebody was maybe in a big it was revealed that there was something in a box. It was like what what do you think is in the box?

[01:00:46]>> And so games we're talking games.

[01:00:48]>> We're doing games. But she also like >> sounds kind of hot. What was in the box?

[01:00:52]>> I think it was like a nutcracker man.

[01:00:57]>> Like a little statue. Like a nutcracker.

[01:01:00]>> Not not a moving man.

[01:01:01]>> A moving man.

[01:01:02]>> Like a live man.

[01:01:03]>> Yes.

[01:01:03]>> Yeah.

[01:01:06]A live man in a box.

[01:01:07]>> Cuz you would have said just Nutcracker if it was just a Nutcracker. But the fact he's a Nutcracker man makes >> that was supposed to be the giveaway.

[01:01:12]>> There's something happening. Yeah.

[01:01:14]There's a >> uh >> So a man came out.

[01:01:16]>> I think it was promotion. It was like maybe they were going to give away tickets to like a performance of the Nutcracker or something like that and that was the way like >> there's something on the website that's like just so you know to participate in the giveaways you have to there's like some conditions I guess people probably get pretty pissed about >> not being able to be part of the there's like the studio >> audience interesting >> and the studio audience is like I I've been studying the show to to try to prepare myself >> to not cry on the Drew Barrymore show.

[01:01:45]Well, everybody I feel like everybody always cries in the audience, too. Like there's always like somebody >> Well, they're on ketamine. It's very clear that the whole crowd is completely ked up.

[01:01:53]>> I watch your show and I I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH SOME AND NOW I feel better. Oh my god. Yeah.

[01:02:02]>> Yeah.

[01:02:02]>> Yeah. [ __ ] idiots.

[01:02:04]>> Drew Barrymore audience. So classic.

[01:02:07]>> No. No. No. Everybody has >> The way you made your teeth disappear for that >> for that character. It was really really good. So, okay. So, you found you found it to be not overwhelming emotionally.

[01:02:18]>> Well, well, you got you you're talking about these I' I've never had these experiences that you're talking about where like you've been in an interview and somebody's hit you with some real raw emotional stuff.

[01:02:27]>> Well, you're kind of you're probably too you're you're kind of a I imagine an Alcatraz up here. You're probably hard to get.

[01:02:33]>> I think that's maybe accurate. Yeah.

[01:02:35]Yeah.

[01:02:35]>> And I'm ready to cry.

[01:02:37]>> Beck is more of an open wound and I'm more of an open wound. I think you you got some Buckingham Palace.

[01:02:43]>> I think that's but I feel like if you guys say the right things right now, >> you could we could really make a moment.

[01:02:50]>> And again, don't get me wrong, it's not that I'm not sensing a major sensitivity.

[01:02:54]>> Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[01:02:55]>> It's just that that there is there but there is a locked away that we couldn't have access to is how I feel.

[01:03:01]>> I have I cried in front of you.

[01:03:04]>> I think so, but it's rare.

[01:03:05]>> Yeah.

[01:03:06]>> Yeah.

[01:03:06]>> Yeah.

[01:03:07]>> Yeah. This is helpful to hear about about Drew.

[01:03:09]>> About Drew. You regardless, I mean, every time it's been an awesome experience and she's like >> you you guys together, I'm trying to imagine.

[01:03:17]>> She's going off on like the Drew.

[01:03:19]>> Did you get laughs in the crowd?

[01:03:20]>> Uh, I think the first time I did, second time started off slow. I got there.

[01:03:25]>> Yeah. I I'm trying to imagine you in a daytime talk show situation.

[01:03:30]>> But yeah, there is a little bit of that like uh Yeah. And of course uh Yeah.

[01:03:35]Yeah. Not not quite sure about that.

[01:03:39]>> Frozen.

[01:03:40]>> She really makes a meal of the questions too.

[01:03:42]>> Like I think it's a I I timed it. It's like it took a minute and a half for her to ask one question. And so by that point you you're already almost done.

[01:03:50]>> Yeah.

[01:03:51]>> And then there's the dog sleeping.

[01:03:53]>> There's Douggee.

[01:03:54]>> There's Douggee.

[01:03:55]>> Yeah.

[01:03:56]>> Blind.

[01:03:57]>> Uh >> I didn't know that.

[01:03:59]>> But that is in New York City, right? Is it not?

[01:04:01]>> It is.

[01:04:01]>> Okay. So you're gonna have to travel.

[01:04:03]>> I got to go tomorrow.

[01:04:03]>> You got to go.

[01:04:04]>> Okay. We got to our producer is once again she's holding up this sign for the next She's Put it down. We understand.

[01:04:13]>> We got to keep it moving.

[01:04:14]>> Yeah, >> we're getting a lot of vitrial for it up.

[01:04:18]>> Uh, next segment. Okay.

[01:04:20]>> Wow.

[01:04:20]>> Now, um, >> is that laminated?

[01:04:22]>> Okay.

[01:04:23]>> No, no, no, no. Not laminated. What is that? Is that Is that a binder? It's got a little >> Does it say something on the back?

[01:04:28]>> Oh, next segment. Throw a break. We never used that one. Um, now the we're here to talk to you, but you're also here to tell us what you think our podcast should be about.

[01:04:37]>> Oh, yeah.

[01:04:37]>> Yeah. And we're going to try it.

[01:04:39]>> Okay.

[01:04:39]>> Um, what do you think, Chris, that our podcast should be about?

[01:04:43]>> Histamine and anti-histamine.

[01:04:46]>> Histamine and antihistamine.

[01:04:47]>> Yeah.

[01:04:48]>> Great. Well, any and any other things to think about with that or you don't have to say anything else. That's great.

[01:04:54]Okay. Well, we're going to be right back with our new podcast, Histamine and Antihistamine with Chris Fleming.

[01:05:01]>> All right.

[01:05:09]>> All right. What's up, dude? Dude, >> yes.

[01:05:13]>> I have been thinking about >> Yeah.

[01:05:16]>> some of the old old times we hung out.

[01:05:18]It just has really I remember some of those times.

[01:05:20]>> Like it's like and now we've got a podcast.

[01:05:23]>> I know. Now we just get to hang out here.

[01:05:26]>> We don't have to go out to places or each other's houses because we got this.

[01:05:29]>> If you had told me >> Yeah.

[01:05:31]>> when I was in college that I'd be doing a podcast with you, I'd be like, first off, what's a podcast?

[01:05:36]>> Second of all, like that's incredible.

[01:05:38]That like is really meaningful to me.

[01:05:40]>> Yeah. You would have you would have gone right to meaningful >> even though you didn't know what even though you had no context for what a podcast.

[01:05:46]>> Just to think that like you and I would be like behind my like all professional like with a producer Michelle, right?

[01:05:51]Yes.

[01:05:51]>> Like that would be really really cool.

[01:05:54]>> I know. I really, you know, I I I'm I have so much gratitude >> for being able to sit here with you and share the space, you know, creating a space, >> holding space. And you're somebody I care about. I care about holding space, right?

[01:06:10]>> Yeah.

[01:06:10]>> Well, let's get into it, folks.

[01:06:12]>> Well, welcome back to histamine and antihistamine.

[01:06:15]>> Histamine and antihistamine.

[01:06:18]>> That's what it's all about. You told us histamine and antihistamine.

[01:06:22]>> That's what we'll talk about >> with Beck and Kyle.

[01:06:26]>> Yes.

[01:06:27]>> Here we are with histamine and antihistamine. And our guest this week, Chris Fleming.

[01:06:33]>> Hey, histaminers.

[01:06:34]>> Hey, histaminers.

[01:06:36]>> You know, you know, you you expect Chris to maybe be histamine, but he's being awfully hist.

[01:06:43]>> Well, sorry about that.

[01:06:44]>> Sorry about that. That's okay. Sometimes I like [ __ ] around with people. I get histamine later in the day.

[01:06:51]>> Okay.

[01:06:52]>> Pre3 p.m. What's your relationship to histamines, by the way?

[01:06:57]>> Um, complicated. You go first.

[01:06:59]>> You don't have >> I don't have them. I really don't. I don't have to take antihistamines very much.

[01:07:04]>> Yes.

[01:07:04]>> Uh, there are people I know who have histamines.

[01:07:08]>> Mhm.

[01:07:08]>> And they have to take antihistamines.

[01:07:10]I'm not one of them.

[01:07:11]>> Oh, no.

[01:07:12]>> No. No. If you got to go no.

[01:07:15]>> I thought what I was saying was actually pretty interesting. Yeah, that was just my kickoff alarm.

[01:07:19]>> Okay, great.

[01:07:20]>> To kick this off.

[01:07:20]>> Okay, great. To >> kick off the histamine.

[01:07:22]>> It's a It's a good It really sounded like somebody important was trying to get like >> I think the same one alarm and I'm I'm making sure snooze is not on.

[01:07:30]>> I mean, I don't have to take antihistamines, Kyle. Do you have to take antihistamines for your histamines?

[01:07:34]>> You know, it's interest. It's interesting actually, you know, that uh histamine.

[01:07:38]>> You know, here I am. I Your history of histamines.

[01:07:40]>> Yeah. that I I I I take part in a podcast dedicated to histamine histamines and antihistamines. Yeah.

[01:07:48]>> And you'd be surpris I sort like uh I um yeah >> I don't I don't exactly know what the [ __ ] we're talking about.

[01:07:59]>> That's okay. Histamine is an allergy.

[01:08:01]Histamine is something that's response.

[01:08:03]>> It's an allergic response. Histamines are released in your body in reaction to something. They were on my mind because I have a cashew cheese allergy and that way and whenever I have a particularly bad show like I did in San Antonio not but one week ago. I had a corporate gig where I had to perform for a bunch of uh Target uh executives in a giant ballroom. It was only like and I did not do well. 45 minutes >> and this was for what company?

[01:08:26]>> Target well it was Target executives five below. It was it was a meeting of meeting of the minds.

[01:08:31]>> Yes. And it was really sinister >> and I don't how much they paid.

[01:08:35]>> Yeah. That's what we're wondering.

[01:08:37]It was sizable.

[01:08:38]>> You don't have to say, but that's sizable. That's what allows you to do.

[01:08:42]>> And I was constantly and I had a countdown clock, but imagine that counting down. And I and I kept saying how much time we had left. And I said, I'm going to make it very clear. I'm when when we hit zero. I'm grabbing my computer and I am sprinting by you guys out.

[01:08:56]>> You're telling this to the >> I'm telling them. And >> were they enjoying it?

[01:08:58]>> Those are the That's the only sound that they would make. And they weren't even leaving, but they the only laughs they would get was when I would tell them how much time. Like 12 minutes, 30 seconds left. I'm dripping with sweat on the mic.

[01:09:08]>> And that that's the only stuff they were laughing at.

[01:09:10]>> Oh yeah.

[01:09:10]>> Wow.

[01:09:10]>> Oh, that's it.

[01:09:11]>> At least you're getting >> one lady loved it. One lady standing.

[01:09:13]Oh, but everyone and I couldn't see. It was so bad. Anyway, so I do this. I when this happened last year, too, when I open for my friend Nikki when I anytime I bomb really hard, I forget I have a cashew allergy. And then I get a veggie burger and this had cashew cheese on it.

[01:09:29]eat that around 3:00 am start getting the itch. It's a rash and it's a really sc I still have it right here. I'm on I was on steroids last week.

[01:09:39]>> I was I was I was Okay. You ever have a rash? You put it under scalding hot water. Most pleasure you've ever felt.

[01:09:45]>> Interesting.

[01:09:46]>> It's like an angel scratching it.

[01:09:47]>> Did you just pour it >> you under the you're in the bath? Put it on hotter than you could ever imagine.

[01:09:52]>> Oh wow.

[01:09:53]>> Drooling.

[01:09:54]>> Wow. I bet >> I've only done it twice in my life. It is like some of the greatest pleasure you're ever going to feel in your life.

[01:10:01]>> Almost enough to make you want to get a little rash >> so that you could just relieve it and be like gh.

[01:10:06]>> And there's a theory that every once in a while annually I seek this out for that pleasure.

[01:10:10]>> Sort of like a phantom thread type situation.

[01:10:13]>> Yeah, I've mooched it.

[01:10:14]>> I got the mooch by proxy.

[01:10:16]>> Is it kind of like >> feed me the mushrooms?

[01:10:17]>> I mean, it's got it's like scratching an itch that right, but imagine a team of angels are scratching it for you.

[01:10:23]>> Really?

[01:10:24]>> You know, bre it's >> I actually have chills. I have chills thinking about it.

[01:10:27]>> I would love to get a rash just to to antihistamine myself.

[01:10:31]>> I still have it on the ass and under thigh right now.

[01:10:33]>> So is now when we say an antihistamine is anything that's going against the histamine because a pill typically.

[01:10:40]>> Sorry. That's right. An antihistamine is like I think I think benadryil is in this family. So like >> the water the hot water isn't really an antihistamine.

[01:10:46]>> No, no. The hot water is just kind of an accessory of pleasure. Yeah.

[01:10:49]>> It's a toy.

[01:10:50]>> Yeah.

[01:10:51]>> Right.

[01:10:51]>> It's a rash toy.

[01:10:52]>> Yeah. Now you get it. Of course, >> it's a rash toy. Cool.

[01:10:56]>> It's a rash toy. So that so that's why that's why I think I am a good guest for the histamines antihistamines podcast.

[01:11:02]>> Yes. Yes. You're fantastic guest for the histamines antihistamines. I mean it's just like it's just like because yeah I we don't know much about it but we have a podcast about it.

[01:11:11]>> They're like heroes in your body that show up and get you bumpy to fight the to fight what's coming >> to fight to fight the invader. And there's something actually really moving about that >> about the about the antihistamine showing up for you. Yeah. Now, >> what what what's the worst rash you've had because of this allergy?

[01:11:30]>> Interestingly enough, poison oak, poison ivy, cashew, same family.

[01:11:35]>> Yeah. So, I have I have crazy allergies to all that. The worst is always going to be the because it's like ingesting poison ivy for me. The cashew cheese cashew butter once I had like a whole tub.

[01:11:44]>> Are you Are you vegetarian or vegan?

[01:11:46]>> You would think, but I'm not. No. Yeah, I would think >> I read I read as that, but I'm but I'm not. I I'll eat anything.

[01:11:51]>> Okay.

[01:11:52]>> Except I don't >> Yeah. Yeah. Cashew. That's That's something that's I'm not appealing to me generally. Like >> Sure.

[01:11:58]>> But not not >> He loves cheese.

[01:12:00]>> I like food. I like vegan food because it's because you don't have to chew it very much.

[01:12:05]>> Oh, you just don't like the >> It's like an alter Yeah. It's like a laziness thing, but it's also like an alternate reality where it's like, "Oh, this cheese isn't real." I love that.

[01:12:13]And then But that's how I get into trouble.

[01:12:15]>> Yeah.

[01:12:16]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:12:17]>> Kyle, are you allergic to anything?

[01:12:20]>> Hey, thanks for asking, dude.

[01:12:21]>> Yeah.

[01:12:22]>> Uh, Bermuda grass is the answer.

[01:12:24]>> Bermuda grass. How often do you get rashed? These >> Wait, wait. When we say Bermuda grass, what is Bermuda grass?

[01:12:30]>> Bermuda. You mean like local >> I This is Here's what I know. I know that when I was uh probably 9 years old, 10 years old, I uh I guess developed asthma or I had asthma. I discovered I had asthma >> that inhaler. Yeah.

[01:12:47]>> And but I was also it was interesting because I was also like a chubby kid and like I feel like there was also some association with the fact that when I exercised I was sort of giving up easily if that makes any sense.

[01:12:57]>> Yeah.

[01:12:58]>> But I also genuinely was coughing and I was diagnosed with it. So it has to be real. I don't Yeah. I think I did >> Yeah. Yeah. If the doctor diagnosed you.

[01:13:08]Yeah.

[01:13:08]>> Yeah. We got to take their word for it.

[01:13:09]>> Uh which Yeah. if you had it. I mean, like I I got for for for a moment there a lot of the gear. There was like a little inhaler. There was also like a long tube.

[01:13:17]>> That one was fun.

[01:13:18]>> I never thought you would get at the doctor that you could Yeah, it was like a vacuum tube.

[01:13:23]>> Yes.

[01:13:24]>> Wow.

[01:13:24]>> Yeah, it tasted good, actually.

[01:13:26]>> Yes, I agree. I agree.

[01:13:27]>> It was really nice.

[01:13:28]>> So, was it just like a big inhaler or was it filling your lungs with medicine?

[01:13:31]>> I don't really know. I haven't thought too much about it since. I would love to see one of these.

[01:13:37]>> But I but around that time I got like a full uh sort of like I guess what what do you call it? Like a prick test. Like they sort of like >> Oh yeah. It's always random [ __ ] It's like lamb.

[01:13:46]>> Yeah.

[01:13:47]>> They're always testing like >> and bermuda grass was the only one which I I couldn't I don't know that I could recognize what a blade of bermita grass looks like.

[01:13:54]>> You really should have this at the front of your mind.

[01:13:56]>> It could be in you know how Florida has the thick ass shards of grass.

[01:14:00]>> Yeah, they really do. It's like it's >> it could be that that and that that might be Bermuda grass.

[01:14:05]>> So, I thought that maybe you learned this while vacationing.

[01:14:08]>> No, no, no, no, no. But, um, if anybody knows more about Bermuda grass, please send it to some some of the people who do the podcast because maybe they'll get it to me and I can learn a little more.

[01:14:17]>> If anybody knows how to find what Bermudarass looks like, just send that information as well.

[01:14:23]>> We were curious if Florida has Bermuda grass. Chris actually had a really interesting comment about possibly >> about the nature of Florida's >> correct.

[01:14:31]>> So, we'd love to know about that. And also, um I don't know if you have any other questions for folks.

[01:14:37]>> Yeah. Do you have any allergies?

[01:14:39]>> No allergies.

[01:14:40]>> That seems impossible.

[01:14:42]>> No, no, no, I don't have any allergies.

[01:14:43]>> You're an American boy.

[01:14:44]>> I'm an American boy. I'm a good Midwestern boy.

[01:14:47]>> It just hit me how you are an American boy.

[01:14:50]>> Yeah. Yeah. Just I could eat anything, roll around in anything. Just that's a strong American boy. We got a couple of pencil neck geeks over here.

[01:14:59]>> We got a longer the glasses and I'm just like, "Hey, throw it at me. Nothing can sink me."

[01:15:06]>> Yep.

[01:15:06]>> Luck incentive again.

[01:15:07]>> Yeah. It feels amazing to be me.

[01:15:09]>> Do you get sick often?

[01:15:11]>> When I get sick, I'm down for the count.

[01:15:14]>> Yeah.

[01:15:15]>> But uh not that often. Do you?

[01:15:18]>> I uh No, not that. But I >> I'm dramatic, too. I I'm really um I'm very much like going >> it is so annoying >> being sick.

[01:15:27]>> Yeah. And it's >> it really does make you appreciate when you're not sick. That is the thing that >> like right now I'm feeling pretty healthy, but rarely do you check in with yourself. You're going to take it for granted.

[01:15:38]>> Nice.

[01:15:39]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[01:15:39]>> You ever Okay. I had to do a show in Austin where I was I was continually falling to my feet in a coughing fit like a month ago.

[01:15:47]>> Really? It was you weren't you weren't like >> dramatizing it to like make it funny and fall to your >> knees. No, because if they sense weakness, you lose all credibility.

[01:15:55]That's when they start chattering. Is he okay? Should we was okay?

[01:16:00]>> Then then it's bad.

[01:16:01]>> Yeah.

[01:16:01]>> So, no, I was trying not to.

[01:16:02]>> Oh, >> but it was it was rough.

[01:16:04]>> But you made it through.

[01:16:05]>> Made it through. And here we are.

[01:16:07]>> And here we are talking about history.

[01:16:08]>> So, where's the rash again? Sorry.

[01:16:09]>> Well, it starts it starts on the it starts on the hands.

[01:16:13]>> Okay.

[01:16:14]>> You can see a little bit of faded on the arms. You look, it looks like a little bit like a witch's skin.

[01:16:19]>> I think it looks beautiful.

[01:16:20]>> And then there's a lot right here and on the ass on each of the cheeks.

[01:16:23]>> Look at that flex. Like the ease in which you raise that leg up in the >> I appreciate you noticing that.

[01:16:28]>> Yeah. Do you do you do you stretch before your performances?

[01:16:31]>> I stretch a lot in the bath. I spend I spend a lot of time.

[01:16:34]>> How often you taking a bath?

[01:16:35]>> On a on a ideal day, I will even do three.

[01:16:39]>> Wow.

[01:16:40]>> Wow. So this is huge.

[01:16:41]>> That's how Pacino stayed sober.

[01:16:43]>> Really? But you know, it was like if it weren't for the baths, I would have >> I didn't even know he was sober.

[01:16:48]>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Wow.

[01:16:49]>> Well, you can tell when he Yeah. I think the damage was done.

[01:16:52]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[01:16:53]>> So, Wow. How long are the baths? Half hour.

[01:16:56]>> I couldn't even tell. I don't time them.

[01:16:58]>> I love baths, too. I never get I never get them anymore.

[01:17:00]>> You got to do them. I did them the first day of my college pre-orientation. I took a bath. We were in a camping trip thing and there was like a cabin. I was like, I'm going to take I I need a bath to to check back in.

[01:17:10]>> Wow. That's I mean my wife is always like being like you should take a bath.

[01:17:15]>> You got to.

[01:17:15]>> And I'm like, "No, I'm fine. That's not going to do anything for me." Do you have bubbles in your bath? Do you have like bubbles?

[01:17:20]>> Bath bombs.

[01:17:21]>> Bath bombs.

[01:17:21]>> They're like $7.99 at Whole Foods, but it's worth it.

[01:17:24]>> So every time you're doing a bath bomb.

[01:17:26]That's a little too luxury.

[01:17:27]>> Remind me what the bath bomb does.

[01:17:28]>> It uh it fizzes out. It's Sometimes they're like kind of fun little shapes like an avocado. Sometimes like a cheese not a cheeseburger.

[01:17:37]>> It's not like a cheeseburger.

[01:17:39]>> How do I describe it? I don't know. Not a cheeseburger.

[01:17:41]>> It's not like a cheeseburger.

[01:17:43]>> It's just kind of like a little >> a circle. Like a circle.

[01:17:45]>> I feel like it looks like a little clump.

[01:17:46]>> And then they Sorry. They dissolve and it just becomes like it smells >> fun. It's like a fun color or like a little >> bubbly >> lavender jasmine.

[01:17:54]>> Now, can you wash yourself with the bath bombs or is that just for No, you don't want to. That's not soap. No, no, no.

[01:18:00]Sometimes I get confused about that.

[01:18:02]>> The bath is not to clean. It's to It's to It's to relax and soothe.

[01:18:05]>> Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Are you >> You're sitting in your own mess, >> right? Maybe at the end you can stand up and kind of wash yourself.

[01:18:11]>> Give a horse bath.

[01:18:12]>> Yeah. A little horse bath in your bath >> and then and then let it all go down the >> hose tub. Yeah.

[01:18:17]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[01:18:18]>> Yeah. I think um I think it's really important to to to to bathe as often as you can.

[01:18:24]>> Yeah. I love I I love bathing. I get a little nervous about like the water waste of it all with like a sh like I like to shower a lot but then you think about all the planes and everything and it's like well we're we're screwed anyway. Yeah, I guess >> you think about all those planes. You're like, one another minute in the shower.

[01:18:43]What's it going to do?

[01:18:44]>> How much time you spend in the shower?

[01:18:46]>> I can hang in there for a minute. Cuz I do stand in there.

[01:18:49]>> What's that?

[01:18:50]>> You want to see my stance?

[01:18:51]>> Oh, please.

[01:18:52]>> Oh my gosh.

[01:18:54]>> Oh, interesting.

[01:18:54]>> And where is the water going down in your back? Back of your neck right there. And you're standing there like that. This is reminding me of um the uh what? The Oreo CEO.

[01:19:02]>> Oh, yeah.

[01:19:03]>> Yeah. One hand behind the back.

[01:19:05]>> Wow. That's That's my shower step.

[01:19:06]>> That's your shower step.

[01:19:08]>> Let me >> I would like to see you I'd like to see you play characters like the Oreo Oreo CEO.

[01:19:12]>> Me, too.

[01:19:12]>> Yeah. I want I want you to be a person in power who's like twisted.

[01:19:16]>> That's sick. [ __ ] Kyle's getting into character.

[01:19:19]>> Well, I'm going to let me let me try to get there because I don't exactly know what I do. So, let's see. I walk in.

[01:19:29]>> Yeah.

[01:19:31]>> Or you flex.

[01:19:32]>> Oh, you're kind of being tough in the shower.

[01:19:33]>> Oh, like a groom. It's like in case one of your boys comes in and sees you naked, you're like, "It's all good."

[01:19:38]Like you're protecting the bride and Yeah. Wow.

[01:19:41]>> Um, >> that's kind of >> I guess that's what I do.

[01:19:44]>> That's That's very macho.

[01:19:46]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[01:19:48]>> Oh, wow.

[01:19:52]>> Okay. So, you're sexy.

[01:19:53]>> You're doing a sexy version of it.

[01:19:54]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[01:19:55]>> Oh, now you're sexy, >> but not you you're just discovering your penis for the first time.

[01:20:01]>> I think you opened it on the way down.

[01:20:02]>> Yeah. Yeah. That's what it looks like.

[01:20:04]>> I like how you did a PG though. How you did the Yeah, >> the thighs.

[01:20:08]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Baywatch.

[01:20:09]>> Do you Are you like >> Oh, you go first. I'll go. I know. I almost got in there. Sorry. My showers are so quick.

[01:20:14]>> Yeah. I'm not I love I They feel so good.

[01:20:18]>> Yeah. The best time.

[01:20:19]>> Yeah.

[01:20:20]>> They feel so good.

[01:20:21]>> What is your >> You forget how bad you feel until you're in the shower. I think I You know what?

[01:20:24]We probably run cold.

[01:20:26]>> Yeah, maybe that's true.

[01:20:27]>> I run hot.

[01:20:28]>> Yeah. What's your temp?

[01:20:30]>> That's That's I'm about 104 usually.

[01:20:33]That's not good.

[01:20:34]>> Oh no.

[01:20:34]>> I think you might need an antihistamine.

[01:20:36]>> I think I need an anti history. Maybe I'm allergic to everything.

[01:20:38]>> Yeah, we need we need to get that down.

[01:20:40]Yeah.

[01:20:40]>> What's I mean, are you are are you What are you What's happening in your head during your baths? Are you going over work stuff? Are you >> you're checked out?

[01:20:49]>> I'm nowhere, man.

[01:20:50]>> No screens.

[01:20:51]>> No screens. I'm gone.

[01:20:52]>> Closed eyes. Head back.

[01:20:53]>> Dude, I've been listening to the Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time playlist recently.

[01:21:01]And so in ocarina that's like a flute.

[01:21:03]What do we call that?

[01:21:04]>> It's like a little It's like a little like >> a pan flute hamburger.

[01:21:08]>> Imagine a chunky flute.

[01:21:10]>> Okay.

[01:21:10]>> And did that ex is that a real thing or is this made up by >> I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

[01:21:16]>> I just listen to the songs. I just listen to the songs it makes.

[01:21:20]>> I listen I listen to a lot of Madonna lately in the tub. Um >> by the way boys and total icon. Thank you.

[01:21:28]>> Total icon. By the way, I'm I I am on I think Madonna's like done some really really creative stuff. Go ahead. Pet job, please.

[01:21:36]>> She's done some really creative stuff >> cuz I feel like she's been working since the 80s from what you're saying about it.

[01:21:41]>> Since the 80s she's been doing that obviously the >> Well, there was the holiday. I remember back in the day and then there was the material girl as I recall and then she did the song for League of Their Own.

[01:21:52]>> Oh, the which one was that? like used to be my playground. This used to be my childhood.

[01:21:59]>> She was in a league of their own.

[01:22:02]>> So she that was kind of like a wild west type of thing. Like Will Smith kind of a thing, you know, like you're in the movie and then you make a song for it.

[01:22:08]>> Yes.

[01:22:09]>> The Wow.

[01:22:10]>> Yeah. The same >> if you think about the cast of a League of Their Own. That's like a that's like an Air Force One sit that of every cultural heavy hitter. They should have removed them from any like if cuz if they all went down, you know, >> Madonna, >> Gina Davis, >> Hanks, >> Tom Hanks, >> you got Gina, >> you got you got other people, too, that were just great.

[01:22:32]>> Uh, Trap Boys. I can I I'm going to say something that I don't think anyone gives a [ __ ] about. Okay. Okay, great.

[01:22:38]>> But like, >> we're talking synthesizers.

[01:22:41]>> Yeah.

[01:22:42]>> That is right up his alley.

[01:22:43]>> Juno7.

[01:22:44]>> Hell yeah. [ __ ] yeah.

[01:22:45]>> I actually [ __ ] yeah.

[01:22:46]>> I I to text Kyle. I almost told him to bring a synthesizer here so we can make a song together. But >> oh my god, you know, my favorite thing is making instrumentals. I have like I have just computers and computers worth of instrumentals that I've forgotten to make any actual lyrics to.

[01:22:59]>> Wow.

[01:23:00]>> It's very therapeutic.

[01:23:01]>> Absolutely.

[01:23:02]You like Yeah.

[01:23:04]>> Yeah.

[01:23:05]>> I I was only going to say that the Pet Shop Boys, they have a very obscure song called Well, maybe it's not obscure.

[01:23:10]Have you ever heard a song called New York City Boy?

[01:23:13]>> I don't think so.

[01:23:14]>> It's very late era Pet Shop Boys, but >> Okay. My daughter who's two and a half is like really into it. It it this is one of the weird things of being a parent I feel like is like when something that is so specific to your taste that nobody else would know about that it's like she's singing along to New York City Boy by Pet Pet Shop Boys but like I don't think that means anything to the world.

[01:23:38]>> But you love it.

[01:23:39]>> I love that song.

[01:23:40]>> Right. So you're almost but even but it like came up on a playlist rand. I'm not obsessed with this song. like you're not playing.

[01:23:46]>> But now she's got a reference that nobody in her universe will have anything like no sense of what you're referring to, speaking about. It's uh >> it's like it's like having your own like customized cultural compadre, >> I guess. So, yeah.

[01:24:02]>> With like your own taste.

[01:24:03]>> It's just cute.

[01:24:04]>> It's really cute. A little girl singing Pet Shop Boys. Yeah. What's What are some of the lyrics to New York City Boys? Um uh New York City boy.

[01:24:16]You'll never have a bad day when you're a New York City boy where 7th Avenue meets Broadway.

[01:24:25]>> You know what that reminded me of? You know the song that Billy Joel sang for Oliver and Company? Why Should I Worry?

[01:24:30]>> Oh yes.

[01:24:31]>> I don't I don't think I do. But maybe if I heard it.

[01:24:34]>> Uh you got to put it on. It's really good.

[01:24:38]worried.

[01:24:39]>> It's about him being like, >> I don't give up.

[01:24:42]>> A dog. Yeah, >> he's a dog. He's a stray in New York and he's welcome anywhere and he doesn't give up.

[01:24:47]>> Running around with like a one of those like ropes of sausages sort of tied to >> full body brought worse and traffic stopping for him. It's like >> I'm going to listen to it as soon as we're out of here.

[01:24:57]>> That's one of those things. I feel like as a >> I appreciate that. Yeah, I got you. You see this imagery of these sausages like lined up so much like >> Yeah, the links to connecting >> but like you never come across it. And >> I've never seen that. Even at a butcher, the links are always separated.

[01:25:14]>> But it's like when you were like 7 years old, it's like well I guess that's like the world I'm doing.

[01:25:19]>> We were made to believe there's going to be a lot of connected broughtw words.

[01:25:24]Um, well, you know, the world doesn't always um end up the way we thought it would be. You know what I mean?

[01:25:31]>> No, >> I just thought that was an interesting thing to say.

[01:25:33]>> It's a really interesting point.

[01:25:34]>> Um, I I feel like I there was we left, we got interrupted, we were talking about your bath situation, the music is there. So, you're listening to stuffs sometimes in the bath. I'll text gossip.

[01:25:46]>> You'll text gossip. So, you have your phone in there.

[01:25:48]>> Yeah. I'm not I'm not I'm not scrolling in there, but I'll occasionally be like, you know what? Yeah. Is it is it safe to say that the bath is almost an anti-histamine >> for you know >> that's completely right.

[01:26:02]>> Right.

[01:26:03]>> That's completely what it is.

[01:26:04]>> I think I think for everybody listening I'm going to listen to that song. What what's the name of the song?

[01:26:10]>> Why should I worry?

[01:26:12]>> Why should I worry? Why should I worry?

[01:26:14]While taking a bath and I encourage all of our rockos, that's what we call our fans. Um to go take a bath, listen to whatever you want. But like honestly, let's take the podcast. Let's take this anti-histamine of a bath and just like allow yourself to bathe >> and um and let us know how you feel.

[01:26:32]Okay. I'm going to bathe and I I'm very excited to to bathe and see what happens to my body.

[01:26:37]>> I appreciate you doing that.

[01:26:38]>> Yeah. No, thank you for bringing Yeah.

[01:26:40]It's always so [ __ ] fun talking histamine and antihistamines with you, Chris. Like, it's like >> Yeah.

[01:26:47]>> I remember I remember >> What were you going to say?

[01:26:49]>> I say I love to see you come alive when you talk about histamines and antihistamines.

[01:26:53]>> And just knowing that like >> you're out there struggling with the rash, pouring hot water on it. It's really [ __ ] cool.

[01:27:02]>> I really am out there struggling with the rash. I feel like next time I'm struggling with something, I'm going to be like, Chris is out there struggling with a rash.

[01:27:10]>> If if Chris can put out a incredible [ __ ] special >> and start some upcoming projects, I'm not even I'm probably not even allowed to talk about some of these [ __ ] projects I've heard that Chris is doing.

[01:27:20]>> Yeah.

[01:27:21]>> If he can do all this [ __ ] with this [ __ ] rash he has, >> I think I could I think I could handle um >> doing the laundry, >> washing my clothes, >> an aggravated DUI. Yes. Yes.

[01:27:35]>> Yeah.

[01:27:36]>> But it is always >> so interesting.

[01:27:39]>> Yeah.

[01:27:40]>> It's really interesting.

[01:27:42]>> And I really love to be able to talk to you guys about histamines and antihistamines.

[01:27:47]>> Oh, yeah. Always. And I know you guys are always available to do.

[01:27:50]>> Yeah. And I don't want to speak for you, Kyle, but I think we love talking to you about histamines.

[01:27:54]>> When you when you when we found out you were going to be talking >> when you found out I was going to be here.

[01:27:59]>> Yes. I told him I was like, >> "Oh [ __ ] that actually is perfect." But we really enjoy everybody.

[01:28:06]>> Yeah. Stay bumpy out there.

[01:28:07]>> Stay bumpy and we'll talk to you. Talk to you soon. And please, >> please >> keep in touch.

[01:28:14]>> Keep in touch. See you guys.

[01:28:22]>> Wow. Histamines and antihistamines.

[01:28:24]>> It was really cool. You know, I feel like of all our episodes of that of that podcast, I feel like we didn't go as deep as we always do into the histamine and antihistamine of it all.

[01:28:33]>> True.

[01:28:33]>> But it's like when you're with >> these [ __ ] legends, by the way, >> the three of us.

[01:28:40]>> Yeah.

[01:28:43]>> Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.

[01:28:44]>> How are you not going to go off on old school Disney Pet Shop Boys?

[01:28:50]>> Yeah. And how you get in the shower with your body and Yeah. It's like you can't not.

[01:28:54]>> Yeah.

[01:28:55]>> Are you going to are you guys going to censor the rash that we were showing?

[01:28:59]You think with our bodies to the camera?

[01:29:01]Probably. You're probably going to cut that.

[01:29:03]>> I I feel okay. I mean, >> that might be a conversation with >> Especially with the passers by that we're also showing their bodies off the street.

[01:29:11]>> I Relle, I feel like that is is that I don't know if that's a headgunk thing.

[01:29:14]>> Yeah.

[01:29:15]>> We might get shadowbanned. So, >> Oh god.

[01:29:18]>> Cuz there was some really funny stuff I was doing with my rash.

[01:29:20]>> Yeah.

[01:29:21]>> Yeah. I don't think we can throw that. I >> feel like if we clip that out, maybe behind the pay wall, maybe Patreon or something. I don't know.

[01:29:27]>> Yeah.

[01:29:27]>> Yeah.

[01:29:28]>> Yeah. Patreon it.

[01:29:29]>> Yeah. Patreon it.

[01:29:30]>> Yeah.

[01:29:30]>> Um Well, yeah. It was a fantastic >> So good to have you, Chris. You bring such a wonderful energy.

[01:29:37]>> It was really fun, you guys. Thank you for having me. I had such a ball.

[01:29:41]>> I get I feel like I say this.

[01:29:44]>> We've I've been we've been around each other probably for 15 years. Do you remember? Because I was thinking the like I was thinking of those old Lyric Hyperion.

[01:29:53]>> Oh my god. Matty's Matty's Pizza party.

[01:29:55]>> Jesus.

[01:29:56]>> Oh yeah. I've never done it.

[01:29:57]>> Jesus Christ.

[01:29:58]>> But we don't >> right before you left for SNL.

[01:30:00]>> Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. And I would go I think I did it. You must have done it all the time. I feel like I was doing it all >> every Saturday. Our faces on that pizza on that crudely photoshopped pizza.

[01:30:10]Yeah. Brutal. Brutal Photoshop.

[01:30:13]>> You got to get one of those. You got to get one of those old flyers.

[01:30:15]>> Go on Facebook. React Facebook. is still tagged on those for sure.

[01:30:20]By the way, there's a lot there's a lot of people Andre was on. I'm picturing that pizza pie. There's a lot of >> It was like maybe a six-hour show.

[01:30:28]>> It was like It was like maybe 20 comics.

[01:30:30]>> Uh, a lot of >> That's a small venue.

[01:30:33]>> Oh, yeah. That's a small venue. That's like more comics than >> It's a small venue that also needs We don't have time to get into this, but it needs to be shifted 180°.

[01:30:40]>> Yes.

[01:30:41]>> The fune is wrong. The audience is freaked out that their back is to the street. A lot of buildings are facing the wrong way and this is we don't have time. That's going to be the next one.

[01:30:49]>> Yeah. Yeah. We'll talk about building.

[01:30:52]>> I love just having that knowledge like I'm okay. I need to walk in >> whenever you walk into a space and you're like what's this is great. Why is it why do I feel wrong? It's because you need to shift it.

[01:31:00]>> Interesting.

[01:31:01]>> That's that's my theory.

[01:31:02]>> Yeah.

[01:31:03]>> I I believe I agree.

[01:31:04]>> Uh well sorry.

[01:31:06]>> No, I was just getting at the fact that like >> I've not I've not gotten to spend probably more than >> six minutes with you.

[01:31:13]>> Yeah. on on the sidewalk or something.

[01:31:15]>> Yeah. Yeah. So, this was a full joy and congratulations on everything.

[01:31:18]>> I think you guys are back. The name of the special is >> Chris Fleming live at the Palace.

[01:31:23]>> Chris is back.

[01:31:26]>> Yeah, definitely >> type in Chris is back to uh uh HBO.

[01:31:34]>> Chris is back and it's the we're back font. It's the dinosaur font. It's really bubbly. Got really really fuchsia big bubble letters.

[01:31:43]>> Congratulations everything.

[01:31:45]Congratulations everything.

[01:31:48]>> Congratulations everything. On everything. You meant to say on everything. Oh [ __ ] Sorry.

[01:31:53]>> Congratulations.

[01:31:54]>> Uh and this was great.

[01:31:55]>> Anything else you want to say before you get out of here?

[01:31:57]>> Uh congratulations everything is my >> it's my favorite LCD sound system. Owl actually. Congratulations everything.

[01:32:04]And that's that's it. Thank you. and you guys are the best and thank you for being so funny and also such lovely interviewers. I can't I can't believe how how kind you are as on top of being so funny. Likewise. So, thank you.

[01:32:17]>> Well, we'll see you all >> next time at the Batcave.

[01:32:21]>> See you at the Batcave.

[01:32:23]>> What's our podcast?

[01:32:27]>> Tell us >> what's our podcast >> with Beck and Kyle.

[01:32:34]>> That was a Headgum podcast.