This video examines the Northland Mall development controversy in Southfield, Michigan, where workers discovered excessively contaminated soil at the 114-acre site, yet the city approved a sports dome project without publicly posting soil testing results. The case highlights the importance of environmental testing, government transparency, and public accountability in urban development projects, particularly when contaminated soil is moved near residential areas, schools, and healthcare facilities.
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Things are getting weird at the old Northland Mall site, tough guy tactics, a federal sting, the Donnie Brasco boat, dirty dirt, and now a soccer terror dome. Workers for developers at the 114 acre plot in the middle of Southfield were picking cement blocks out of the mountains of dirt there and then moving the dirt to the northern end of the urban wasteland. Across the street from the new mountains of dirt, our Providence hospital, a child daycare center, and a mega church. Previously, tons of this dirt made its way into Detroit's demolition holes. Remember Mike Dugen? Detroit officials have the soil tested and it's shown to be excessively contaminated and suspiciously similar to highway junk. Like how bad?
Like children shouldn't play near it bad. Like long-term cancer bad. My partner Kenny's right over there. And I went there last Friday to film the plumes of dust being kicked up by the excavator, a dump truck, and a bulldozer pushing the dirt around the lot. That's when the surirly dude in the heavy duty pickup rolled up on us. He gave us the stink eye, the voodoo vibe, the grim peeper. He never rolled down his window and never said a word. He just idle for some time before driving away only to cut a circle and do it all over again.
They shut the job down for a good hour and a half while the dude worked his phone. Now, we all know the FBI's on a cage case, which spraws across two counties in southeastern Michigan.
Workers and subcontractors are spilling their guts. Mike Dougen was forced to fall on his sword and drop out of the governor's race, and the city of South Hill can't or won't produce soil analytics.
Weird. Now, in the midst of all this, the Southfield City Council last month approved a 120,000 square foot sports dome on the site that will be home to the Detroit City uh football club South Oakland soccer team. When reached by telephone, the soccer club CEO, Marcel Schmid, said he hadn't seen any soil testing, and I'm quoting here, but it was discussed before the vote. If the city's not concerned about it, then we're not concerned about it.
Suit yourself, Marcel, but you'll never see me at the concession stand.
Why doesn't the city of Southfield simply have the soil tested and post the results to the public? Where is the county in all this? the states, the Fed, while the FBI is indeed investigating the environmental scandal, I don't have um much shorty that much is going to come out of this, considering that the Northland developer, Contour Companies, may be a confidential source for the federal government. Now consider Contour Companies was involved in a major FBI public corruption sting way down there in Jackson, Mississippi. In short, FBI agents posed as outofstate developers proposing a multi-million dollar hotel project to the mayor of Jackson. The FBI straw company, totally fake company manned by undercover agents. They partnered with the real life contour companies of Southfield to create a bogus development scheme uh used to bribe local Jackson officials.
In a scene straight out of Donnie Brasco, the mayor of Jackson was pied with booze and boobs before he was filmed on a yacht in Miami taking bags of cash from undercover agents. Now, why would a legitimate development company based in Michigan lend its name to an outofstate FBI sting? It can't be good for business.
In the phony pitch to the mayor of Jackson, Contour claimed its $500 million North Land future city project backstopped with millions of dollars in public subsidies would be completed by the end of this calendar year. Forget about it. Meanwhile, the federal corruption trial of the mayor of Jackson begins next month.
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Now, everybody knows that American Coney Island invented the chili dog. It's It's a fact. I don't care what Texas says.
And so, there's some goof out in Jackson, not Mississippi now, but Jackson, Michigan saying it. I went to the historical library, man. Come on.
But look, it's not just about the dog or the delicious fries or the fresh Greek salads. Chicken, chicken, chicken, kids, chicken. No. Today I want to tell you, Jean, Dean, what the [ __ ] I want to tell you about the cheesecake. So good.
So criminal. Dean's stealing it.
>> It looks like I took a bite.
>> You did?
>> Mhm.
>> That's graham cracker crust here. Take that out. That's apple moonshine. You can >> apple moonshine compost.
>> Yeah. Now, here's the deal with here.
Hold it up, Dean. Hold it up. Dino Bach.
He's doing big things now. Everybody around here knows Dino Bach. We're going to do that in a minute. Okay. So, here's the story.
A guy breaks into the American Coney Island at 3 in the morning, thinking that the day's receipts would be left in the cash register of a building whose walls are made out of glass. Okay? He's not MIT material. All right. Smashes the window, which you can't anymore. Smashes the window. Goes over to the register.
Can't get it open. So he takes soda pop and pours it all over the machine like this magically going to trigger the the the Aladdin's lamp open. Right. Okay.
You know what kind of soda pop he used?
>> Red pop.
>> I don't know either. It was a refill cuz refills are free at the American Coney Island. He didn't pay. Okay. So Genius is wiggling it, wiggling it, wiggling it, getting worked up. It's all on closed circuit TV. It's It's right there. And it's right there. And it's right there.
He's We got trip ticks in this guy. So he's jiggling it, gets a little tired, pops over here. He finally turns to the left. It's the pie cooler. He looks at the pie cooler. He opens the pie cooler.
He eats a whole [ __ ] cheesecake right there.
Never gets the register open, but he takes it. And they catch him on the bus with with the till in his uh lap. Cops take him down to lock up over there at mound.
There nobody working the lockup desk. So they said, "Just turn yourself into Mara."
>> Okay, that's that's that's Detroit.
That's Come back city. Now, anyway, the point is we blew that closed circuit TV picture up and I came up with the genius marketing scheme.
Cheesecake so good, it's criminal.
>> Beautiful.
>> Every day fresh every day here at the corner of Fort Michigan a I mean Lafayette, Michigan Avenue and Griswald. Why do I say it that way? Because the whole store is shaped like a red, white, and blue piece of cheesecake. Come on down.
>> Give it a taste.
>> Brett, >> just fresh today.
My friend had coconut cream this morning. There's also apple.
>> That's some good cheese, guys.
>> It's moist, isn't it?
>> That's most women's favorite word, moist. But yeah. Mhm.
>> That's weird.
>> That's weird.
>> This does definitely should could use some compost. Just I'm gonna let that sit there for a minute.
>> There you go.
>> Okay, listen. Um, so Ken and I cut some video. We didn't leave. They're trying to muscle us out there. We ain't going nowhere. Uh, this is Conspiracy Ken's latest.
>> Smile.
Smile. I got your closeup.
Make sure you smile.
>> So, the developer in the city in Southfield are finally moving this questionable dirt, but they didn't move it to a landfill. They moved it here on the north side next to the heart institute and the building with cancer patients and the daycare where the babies play outside and Pastor Kinlock's church. That's not what we had in mind.
Oh boy.
We don't know who this dude is, but he >> walked up to mug us. He just show a little muscle. Now he driving away.
>> Look at all that dust. Three tons in a cloud of dust.
Wow. Blowing right into the neighborhood.
>> Why don't you have it tested, Mr. Mayor, and then make the findings public?
>> Coming back to block the camera narrating Ken slides.
Weird moving K. Now Ken says lets the crowd know he's moving the camera to get around the truck. There's our mountain Kilamanjaro. He bags up the truck to block the camera.
>> And off he goes to make some calls.
>> Something's going on.
>> That's weird.
>> That's very weird.
>> Dean Bach, you're a big real estate guy.
From Aruba to Key West to the luscious shores of Leewane County. Is that the right county?
>> Lake Michigan. Anywhere up north is there's counties all over.
>> All right, hold up the picture. You got a house for sale. Just quickly, we get back to >> Oh, yeah. Uh, you know, 3939 Blue Heights Drive up in the uh Old Mission Peninsula. Uh 1.249 million.
Really beautiful place. Got like got a great view of the East Bay. Um you buy this and I will give you a bottle of Dean Bach barbecue sauce. Good stuff.
Comes with every purchase. Did you uh get that from uh um Jean Leafit's sunken gallion?
>> The bottle?
>> Yeah, the uh the barbecue sauce.
>> No, I make that stuff myself, man.
>> Okay. Does that have um county water and sewage?
>> Uh it is a septic tank. Well, and septic.
>> What?
>> Most places up north are well and septic.
>> But 1.5 million, bro. I don't need to be calling like you're never going to have a water bill. You're never going to have a sewer bill. Water's good for you up there. I mean, this is Lake Michigan water. Stuff come, you know, they dig deep and comes out of the lake. There's no crap in that water.
>> How many bedrooms?
>> There's uh three bedrooms, two and a half bath. This house actually belongs to my good friend Brad from high school.
And uh he says, "Hi."
>> Well, you guys, you tell him hello. You guys are making it, aren't you? Anyway, you guys are making it. Let me re let me start this over.
Everybody knows Dean around here. If you're from around here, like you remember Dino's Lounge, that was just the joint of Ferndale. That was just the joint, dude. It was for for better part of a decade at least. The meeting place, the karaoke, the chili cookoffs, the charity events, funny guy, you know, just very charitable. And um you [ __ ] off. You [ __ ] off. You went up north.
>> Yeah.
>> Remade yourself. You've always been in real estate.
>> Yeah.
>> And then you went back into it full-time.
>> Yeah. Well, yeah. Tell them tell them where they can get you. Let me just do the plug.
>> Uh you call me at uh 9898891566.
You can look me up on the atroperties website. It's at at properties at properties. Um >> okay.
>> You know that's about it. Facebook me.
You're the guy that can hook up a snowbird wannabe down in the Keys, Florida. And you've got >> a pretty tight wrap on the Gold Coast up here in >> Yep. Northern Michigan, you know, from Lake Michigan to uh, you know, all the way down to Key West and Malmach Beach and Aruba. Uh, you know, I'm a pretty good conduit. I I have a lot I cover a lot of places. I thought it would be fun to just work where you want to hang out.
So, Northern Michigan and the Florida Keys sounded good. And of course, let's just throw the South Caribbean in there.
And that gets me out of Northern Michigan snowbird style in the winter time.
>> He living our dream, isn't he, boys?
There's a bunch of guys hanging out even.
We're all like, "Fuck."
>> A lot of envy, >> young dude. That's right.
>> [ __ ] >> A lot of Hey, that's a good way to write off all your travel. I might not close a single deal, but I can write off all the trips, >> dude. Do you know how many [ __ ] Politicos, FBI agents, Treasury, you We'll fix that in post. You don't You You don't want to.
>> Hey, it's all legit, man.
>> You don't pad the expenses up, do you?
>> Of course not.
I don't stay at junk places.
>> Hurry up, man. This a pro. This is longer than the cheesecake story. What the [ __ ] >> Hey, I thought we were talking about DOS. That was a lot of fun back then.
That was that was a long time.
>> Let me just get to what you're doing now. Ladies and gentlemen, Dean is now international. He's on an airplane looking at himself on his new TV show. What's that called? What's the name of that?
>> The American Dream.
>> ADTV.
>> ADTV.
>> Add TV.
>> ADTV.
>> But you're add Okay. on HD, right?
>> On HG, >> Home and Garden Television, American Dream. Dean is one of the latest international correspondents.
>> I am a regional host for the American Dream. And uh boy, I have a new found respect for the TV people out there.
Man, I thought this was easy what you guys do. It is not at all. It's long days. Uh do it again. Somebody farted.
Hey, a plane went by. Say it again. And that's 12 hours for a day for two days to come up with a seven minute segment.
>> So you're doing a travel segment based around real estate and the good life, right?
>> Real estate, lifestyle, culture community based on real estate. This is where you want to be, >> right? We surrounded around real estate.
>> So here's a a little clip. I mean, dude, they're really not they're really not featuring you very very well on this thing. I mean, >> I'm still the new guy. Man, there's an opening at C uh at 60 Minutes.
>> Oh, I can I can jump on.
>> This is Dean on ADDTV.
>> When you're thinking Aruba, you're probably thinking sunshine, blue water, and sand. Today, we're going to show it to you from a whole different playing field. From Santa Cruz Diamonds to the kitchens of San Nicholas, where food feeds more than hunger, it feeds baseball dreams. Through competition, community, and connection, we're going to show you a whole different Aruba. And we're gonna do the American dream Aruba style. I'm Dean Bach. Let's go.
>> Okay. Wow. Dude, you are like America's next Anthony bored to death.
>> You know, you never know, right? But I want to I need some assistance because who is the guy that said go ahead and wear a black shirt and Aruba for a shoot? Man, >> it was hot.
>> It's thinning though.
>> And didn't didn't Yeah. Well, and it's thinning for sure. That's, you know, the camera adds 10 pounds. When I said that to my dad, you know, he said, "Well, how many cameras they got on you, right?"
So, I've been on a little diet. Get that cheesecake away from you.
>> Big. No, dude. Like, you know, the jolly guy, you know, and the smart guy. I I bet cuz you're an a really excellent ball player that what you were doing was this Aruba and there's a lot of guys in the major leagues from Aruba. It's a big part of the culture. I bet you were hitting balls.
>> I had a blast, man. That's why I did it on on baseball. You know, I could have done the beaches and the and the the the front of the um lifestyle scene on with all the STRs and the highrises, but let's It's a big baseball community.
Xander Bogarts is uh from the um the island. They got >> He's playing short for who now?
>> San Diego Padres's.
>> I got to interview his mom. We went to her little soup store. She's really nice. Boy, is she a sweetheart. And >> Oh, that's cool. So, you got production value in this. Yeah, >> cuz that kind of shit's hard to get >> because you're learning like but somebody's making the call.
>> Well, I learned from some friends, man.
And you get on the phone, make calls, and use your connections to get get the interviews.
>> Well, all your connections spring, you're your well, as it were, is for Dale, Michigan. And I mean, that's okay.
It's pretty there's I'm going to teach about inflection at the end. That sounded right off the rip, except play it again. I'm I'm gonna point out right where you could tell this was memorized.
It's all natural. Watch this.
>> When you're thinking Aruba, you're probably thinking sunshine, blue water, and sand. Today, we're going to show it to you from a whole different place.
>> And sand.
>> And sand.
>> Yeah, that's that's >> Listen, I'm learning, man.
>> You go and sand, >> right? No, but you you got them. How many How many takes?
>> That one was probably just one for that.
>> That's pretty good.
>> But everything else was a lot harder, you know.
>> The lines were written. Do you have to write the lines or do >> I have to write them and memorize? I mean, that's they pretty much give me creative freedom to do my segments to to storyboard them to go where I want to do them as long as they approve everything.
Everything gets shot. They send a camera crew out. Uh we shoot everything.
>> Uh they send everything to California.
It gets edited in California and then I don't even see it until they it's already ready.
>> Show of discovery. Like they had a like week week we mine was all like bull riding, fight club, trapeze, clown, like it was all physical. And then I would get a dummy script from them. You know, I'm a writer, you know what I mean? And I get this horrible [ __ ] script and I'd be up to 5 in the morning rewriting this thing and then got to go get kicked in the elbow by a bull.
>> So I I know what it is.
>> So are are you stuck to what they're going to tell you to say?
>> It's Well, they're doing No, it's the basic layout of how it's going to go.
Here's the dummy script.
>> If I want the dummy script to go, it'll go.
>> Right.
>> But I'm like, >> you can play with it.
>> Yeah. It's not good enough. and and I was doing the sand, you know, it was >> and they kind of do that for me, too.
They'll send me something to to, you know, if >> I tell them what I want to do or give them the premise of the segment, they'll send me a story board or or or some scripting and and they'll let me play with it and I can change it. As long as I change it, send it back to them and give uh get permission.
>> Yeah.
>> They're okay.
>> See that? But I just You're my friend, so I'm just going to be honest, man.
That's it's below your talent level. I'm working my way up there.
>> I mean, if if you want to get to 60 Minutes, and I think you could be the Andy Rooney there. You could do that.
>> You need more freedom. You got to go back to your roots. Back when you were doing, you were like first, you were like OG, hyper local, self-produced.
>> We were >> humor commercials.
>> We did a lot of fun stuff.
>> I got my daughter's work because she goes, "I found it. It's you have to do the filters." And I'm like, filters?
>> What fil? I have no [ __ ] clue.
>> What did you find? Oh.
>> Oh, we got No. No. I don't want Oh, wait. Wait. Okay. Don't play anything.
That's the leprechaun looking for the magic pot of beer.
>> This is a good one. Yeah, >> but that's not the one we went with.
>> No, >> we let we let Jenz go with it.
>> Pick it. Where's the other one, Mark?
You got the other one.
>> Oh, all the fish you can eat.
>> Oh, man.
>> This is Dino's Ferndale circa 200.
>> I don't know. Five, six, eight, maybe.
Hey. Okay. Dino's Ferndale featuring All You Can Eat Fish.
>> Excuse me, miss. Can I have some more fish for the all you can eat fish?
>> Are you Jesus here, >> dude? We're all out of all >> Jesus. That was Ashley's talking right there. I messed up.
>> You have a wicker bastard by chance.
[ __ ] it up.
>> I think I got one of those for you.
Believe this will get you through the rest of the evening.
Nice touch cleaning first.
>> Look at the glass of water.
>> Water into wine.
Oh, God love M1 Studios. Man, those were we had some good times.
>> Very sparse on the script. Okay. Uh yeah, it's basically Jesus walks into Dino's and gives him fish for the night and water into all out. They were all out, man. So, >> dude, I couldn't find the redneck one.
You know, the the mullet and you're walking through the median. That was hilar.
>> There's one we did with Darren McCarti, man. That was we we did three parts of it where he was uh Billy Bob Cruz Billy >> with uh and I and I was uh the father of a girl who was pregnant and was sitting on the median and she's cracking open bottles of beer with her shoe and you know dad's handing her cigarettes and you know and then she marries Darren McCarti cuz he's got uh uh insurance.
He's got that insurance from the tow truck company.
All right, let's see the Oh, this one could use an edit, but you know, let's let's let's see the leprechaun one. I guess >> this has to be my lucky picture of beer.
I'm on the search.
>> Oh, look, a rainbow. The lucky picture of beer must be in there.
But there's no beer in there. But there's lots of fun. Lots of fun. I got the whip. and some new drawers.
>> Hello. You know where I might be able to find me lucky beer?
>> Have you tried that place?
>> That must be the place where I can find me lucky beer.
>> Is there stay out? That was definitely not me.
Lucky beer.
It is fate. My lucky bear. She must be in the twisted shamrock.
Nothing but empty glasses.
They have party pills, but no beer at the Twisted Shamrock. Love this place, though.
Yeah, it's not Irish, but it'll have to do. He thinks I find my lucky beer in Do.
Ah, it's me lucky picture over here. I suppose if you want to get lucky on St. Patrick's Day, you have to go to Dino's.
Barkeeper, may I have a straw, please?
God, >> that was clever, dude.
>> We had so much fun.
>> You did that. I mean, you're missed here.
>> Your spirit is missed, man. It's just It ain't the same, dude.
>> I'm coming back. I'll be back.
>> Good. I'll be back.
>> I'll be back. I'll be back with some hot sauce made by Dean Bach.
All you need to do is buy a house.
>> Okay, Dean, let's do some real estate here. Okay. So, I go up to Magen and I pretend that the true meaning of this place is two things. So the non-governmental organizations that get all our tax money go up there and make sure they're needing they're getting their sack of loot and we don't get [ __ ] for it. Meanwhile, nurses are on strike. But the other big news was Dan Gilbert's been lobbying everybody, spreading a lot of money up there to get the speaker of the house, Matt Hull, to buy into $200 million in public financing so Gilbert can take over the Renent.
>> Now, just 200 million.
>> I I don't know why GM, who owns it, and I am a shareholder, why they wouldn't put on the market to see what we get. Is that does that make sense to you or is this >> Well, absolutely politics.
>> I mean, it sounds like a, you know, a backroom pocket deal, but everybody knows the Renaissance is empty and they need to do something with it. Uh, put a for sale sign on it, man.
>> Start there. I would just uh you know >> before you're coming around asking for public goodies and >> kind of come up with you know everybody give us your your highest and bests and and uh we're going to open them up and if none of them meet what we're looking for we'll we'll sell it to Gilbert for what he's already >> you want to nerd out Anthony um B to death >> and you're a realtor and you run the downtown development authority in Ferndale so you know about things sorry folks real quick it matters tax increment mental financing, a tiff.
That's how they're going to pay for it.
Meaning once you develop it, once it's done, >> right?
>> Right.
>> We're going to let you collect your own sales tax, your own uh income tax on your employees. We're going to give you uh pr-rated lesser property tax note, right? This is all true, right? That's how tiff works. Well, no, actually TIFF is is it's close, but you know, TIFF comes off the top of your uh tax bill.
So, if your tax bill is a,000 bucks Yeah. a year and it and that's the cap now, the tax the TIFF cap and then it goes up a hundred bucks, >> the TIFF captures that 100 bucks >> and gives it back to you.
>> Gives it back to whoever whoever is getting it.
>> Okay. Now, it's important to say that you don't get that money until the project's complete. Right.
>> You shouldn't. Right.
>> Right. So, the developer, but here's here's the end around. We just did it with the Hudson building.
Basically, what Gilbert did was he took that promised money on the back end, right, for the once it's built for 30 years, you get all this money back. He went and took it to Wall Street, bundled it or to a bank, bundled it, got a loan, and the bank said, "That's good. We're guaranteed payment on your tax capture.
in the future, we're going to give you the money up front. Long story short, we just gave you a check.
That's what we did. We gave you a check.
So, you can't tell me the goblin.
>> Yeah. And what doesn't make sense is is tiff money only works when values go up.
The value has to go up, >> right?
>> So, the so that the assessment goes up so that your taxes go up and that's how you capture that money. If if it's not going up, how are they gonna just kind of make it go up?
>> They do go up. Okay. Again, then we'll get all >> I mean, it's it's 5% or less, you know, annually. It's the cap's 5%.
>> This is what we would do over those water the wines. This is the [ __ ] we would talk about, you know, like we're grown men. This is our community.
>> But if if you have a year where you have depreciation or or uh def uh in not infl no inflation. Yeah. What we call it subinflation.
>> Yeah.
>> Then there is >> negative growth. you you you actually your taxes go down. So there's zero money going to those captures.
>> That's how it works. Once the project is designed, right? Then every business in that district, you get a higher assessment under the assumption that this new project is going to make your [ __ ] worth more. So already they got the pot. Everybody's [ __ ] goes up, right? So like in Detroit when we built the hockey arena >> Mhm.
Everybody's taxes down here went up and this the new stuff that was supposed to go to schools and the library didn't go.
It went went to the the developer.
>> So, there's another way to do assessed value. And I guess what this might be what they're banking on with the uh Renaissance Center right now. It's empty. There's no income.
>> Well, they emptied it on purpose, >> right? When they start generating the Italian and Japanese consulates are still there.
>> Oh, well, good. They have a lot They can have a lot of fun. They have a soccer game in that place. or or they could do it down at Northland where they're going to build the new thing. Yeah.
>> But uh if they you if they start using revenue, tax revenue or um rent revenue that changes how they do the assessment and then the value obviously goes up from there. So yeah, right now their value is kaput because there's nobody in it. But they start filling those seats that money uh starts generating and then sale. Don't also sit on the board.
>> You got to drive up north. Are you going to listen to what you're saying?
I sit on the border review in up north too. So I know all about this tax stuff.
>> Oh yeah. Update on red.
>> Oh yeah. What? Two.
>> Explain that to me.
>> Explain that to me. Put it in the doggy bag. You can take it to go. Um yeah, he's been moved and he's doing well in speaking now. So there you go. I love you, Red. Um how about a See you next Tuesday.
See you next Tuesday.
Okay, Gretchen Whitmer showed up to the data center out there in Selen Township that nobody wants.
Nobody wants it, right? 16 billion dollar development. And she poses with the dark empire. Uh what's his name? Um >> Sam Alton.
>> Who? Sam Alman.
>> Yep. Sam Alman >> from Open AI.
>> Yep. Just won this lawsuit against Elon Musk. These are So she you show There it is. There she is. What are you doing out there? Now the progressive base loved her to death for everything like bloated budgets and old people dying in the nursing homes and stuff. But this this is a step too far. Getting in bed with big tech.
your thoughts.
>> I don't quite understand why it's a big deal. I'm gonna play a little devil's advocate on here. It's it's bringing money to the state. Somebody's got to these data centers got to happen. AI >> Why not in the Renaissance Center?
>> Well, ex Well, you know, let's find even urban near even the Northland spot. You don't need You're just throwing a bunch of machines on top of it. Nobody's going to drink out of that. You and actually the water that comes out. Cool stuff.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Be the uh devil's >> navigator. So I I mean I don't necessarily want them cutting down all the trees. That's something that we have a problem with up north. Nobody wants them. And and and as as well as solar panels everywhere. Uh I think that it brings money and somebody's got to have it. And Michigan's a great climate climate for this stuff because it's cool and these things got to stay cold.
They're not going to put them in Texas.
They're not going to put them in Florida. They're not going to put them in the Carolinas. Uh cold weather is better for them. it keeps the cost down.
Um, but there's got to be a way to do this that makes sense. And I really don't like the idea that our governor who just seems to have a lot of money somehow is uh all the time is playing with this.
>> Let me devils advocate you.
>> Let me devils advocate admocate you that try to try to cheesecake. It's criminal.
>> Did you know that consumers energy three months ago got a quarter billion dollar rate increase. There's there's two power companies in Michigan. Well, two real ones, right? Two big ones. Um DTE and Consumers. They got a4 billion dollar rate increase and they just come around with another half billion dollar rate increase. one suspects they're coming to us to improve this grid, keep up with the storm damage in order for these deep pocketed [ __ ] to be able to build this.
I'm not against the data center >> in the right place where you didn't countermand the wishes of the locals because the locals don't want it. Big tech took them to court, crushed them.
Place is gone. Okay, fine.
one half a billion dollars. This This is what I stayed up doing. I did some math.
I'm just going to give you loose math.
Guess how much the Seline Township data center energy is going to use in a single day.
>> I I can't even begin to fathom.
>> About 40% more than the entire city of Detroit in 24 hours.
>> Really? That's massive. That's that means your energy is going to go up. The infrastructure costs are going to go up.
Why wasn't it negotiated? Okay, it's 16 billion. Why don't you give us four years of rate increases at make it 18 billion? Why?
>> So now demand goes up and then we pay for it.
>> Prices go up. We need more infrastructure. You need transformers.
You need new power lines. You need a lot of stuff. Why wasn't that negotiated?
Why is Jocelyn Benson's husband who's the chief lobbyist for this? He's going to make $70 million by reports.
>> Wow. See, >> see that like again I agree. I like devil's advocacy because this is the future and we used to be the future. Now we're the past around here.
>> We're the pasture.
>> Excellent. Pretty good. And a contaminated one. So if we're going to do this, where's the public's subsidy?
Yeah, >> they need to be. You laid it out. I let you advocate. It's cooler here. We have water here, but we don't have the electric infrastructure, >> right?
>> So, >> and it's basically an investment that we're making for the rest of the world to have a data.
>> Consumers just told you was like in the next year if this goes through, that's another 10% increase. I got a new accountant, right? And you got to write a letter to your accountant so they know the scope and history of your finances.
There's your returns and everything. But I was just given a list like your utilities.
>> In two years, 2023 to 2025, my water and sewage bill went up 50 [ __ ] percent.
And that's thousands. That's not hundreds. It's not 50s. Like I'm getting blown out here, man. And I don't like it. And I don't think a lot of pe And if I was living in Selen Township, I'd lose my [ __ ] mind.
>> Well, and septic, baby.
>> Well, and >> they're up there trying to get your trees. You know that >> they are.
>> Oh, and then when all the trees blew down, the ice storm, they didn't do a [ __ ] for you.
>> No, they shred them. They shredded them.
They had them all there. And there's there's big chunks of northern Michigan being taken out right now.
>> Yeah. I mean, again, I understand Detroit used to be farmland. I get it.
But those were private investors and you know singular inventors do like I I don't know what we got to pay for everything. We got younger people in here going I want to go to Aruba Key West up north. I'm never going to get there man.
>> Yeah.
>> Fight for him. [ __ ] it.
>> All right. So now you hear Whitmer's going to get Michigan State. That's the other thing that came out of Mack and all the scuttlebutt. Whitmer is going to be the president of Michigan State University and Dugen is going to be president of the University of Michigan.
Is that legal? Why is every elected representative, every business leader telling me it's fade to comp plea when the law clearly says that's an open search. May the best person win. Like they're just already telling you [ __ ] you. It's It's all for show.
>> Yeah, >> that's not going to happen. At least I'm I'm going to I'm going to do the reporting. And if they are the best person, I mean, Whitmer's got a hell of a resume. You know what I mean?
>> I'd like to see the rest of the resume.
>> Better than Dugens, I would think, because again, she's the executive of the state board of education. At least there's a connection. She's dealt with school budgets. I mean, maybe so, maybe not, but don't tell me that's what's happening, >> right?
>> Want a nice gig if you can get it, man.
>> Which give me some See you next Tuesday cuz the election's coming >> some next Tuesday somewhere.
>> See you next Tuesday.
>> I love that.
>> California primary results are in in California. They're nonpartisan. top to uh go into the general election if he didn't get 50% in the primary. Didn't happen. So for governor uh former cabinet secretary to Joe Biden, Xavier Visera and Steve Hilton, the rich guy, the actually the only immigrant in the whole thing. He's from England or something.
Um that's kind of neck and neck. But who who's the bill who >> Tom Styer >> Styer >> will you work with?
>> One guy. Okay.
>> So, what did he spend?
>> 200 >> $200 million to take third.
>> That's that's pocket change for him, by the way.
>> I mean, he's too far out there.
California was the best place ever.
California dreaming. It's totally wrecked. These way out progressive shits just just wipes it out. And it's cool to be a way out progressive. But you can't be in charge.
>> You lived there, man. Is a different a different place.
>> I loved it. My daughter was born there.
>> I used to live there, too. But that place is magic. It's it's people when they get their hands on it. Okay. So, there's those two guys and then there's Karen Bass and Spencer Pratt. Spencer Pratt's running the internet campaign, saying the right things and Karen Bass saying he doesn't have any experience.
What do you mean like burning down the palace? You mean uh waving homeless in?
So, it's interesting, but I don't think these outsiders have any chance. They don't have any experience. Um because you might have took 30% of the vote, but in the runoff you're going to take 30% of the vote and your challenger is going to take a 60.
>> You know what I mean? So it's interesting to watch. What does that have to do with us in Michigan? A whole lot of nothing. But it could, you know, everything starts in California. So hopefully there's if if there's some change there, there could be change everywhere. And you know, I'm watching the talking heads here with the uh the Bush Pratt thing and they're saying she didn't get her 50% which automatically makes her mayor. Yeah.
>> And she's not even coming close to that.
That's a big red flag for her. And uh you know there was another there's a third person and that that wound up with like 17%.
>> Uh who are those people are going to vote for? They're going to be fighting for those votes.
>> They're they're more to the left than Bass's people. So I I don't I >> But do they want change or do they or you know I mean >> man we all want some change in our [ __ ] pockets.
>> I got some.
>> Oh dude, times are good for you. You just >> Oh, do we have a donate button yet?
>> We're going to have a donate button >> cuz we know you can't always advertise.
But uh I forgot to bring it. Uh brother man, thank you for the check that will go to some D drinks and dinner for the for the crew. I I totally appreciate what you did there. I'll I'll give you a shout out next week proper. Um so what's this got to do with us? Abdul Elsed, you're kind of worried about him. At least you know Democratically I think even the Republicans. But like you don't have any experience. The guy doesn't have any experience. He did one year with Mike Dugen as a health director and actually told Dougen, "You're poisoning the kids with the demolition." And now he's got a job with the county. Same kind of thing. governmental syndicure.
You're not a doctor. You're a PhD because you studied medical science, but you never took the boards. You never had a residency.
You're you're Jill Biden doctor. That's what you are. And I don't see a lot of experience. Well spoken guy, decent man, no doubt. But is that being said?
Because that's I'm why am I even I love California. That's why I pay attention.
But we all know Bass's uh rip on Spencer Pratt, which is you don't have any experience.
>> Experience.
>> So if that means anything to you, then let it mean something consistently.
>> Does does being a good person count for anything?
I mean, he seems like a pretty decent guy. Bass is, you know, I don't know her personally either, but you know, she just kind of seems like she doesn't get into it. Maybe he's going to work hard.
I know. Maybe we should dress them all in a leprechaun series.
>> Yeah, that's right, man. Put them all in green and put some moonshine in front of them.
>> So, I I I don't know. Okay. 10% rake hikes. Okay.
The Northland job, they got brownfield credits. They got city brownfield credits. They got state brownfield credits. In order to get brownfield credits, you have to prove that it's polluted. So, you have to have the soil analytics. Southfield pretended they don't have them. So, I went to the state, you know, the Michigan Economic Development Corp, >> MEDC.
>> That's the one with the $4,500 coffee pot. We all remember that.
>> Y >> Okay. They say, "We have 242 pages of dirt documents.
Send $105.70 and we'll get them to you in an illegal time frame of three months."
I sent my money in. I got the receipt. I go to the website. Did you get my receipt? We don't have your receipt. I went there this morning. We don't have your receipt. You got my receipt. It's been taken out of my account. Let me make a call. That number don't work.
That number don't work. That number don't. They stole.
>> Wow.
>> Like this is a cover up, dude. Like, where's my money at least?
>> It amazes me that you need to get the brownfield. You have to have contamination >> and then a proof of the contamination >> and proof of it. And then they're telling you on the other end, it's not contaminated. There's nothing wrong with it.
>> No, they're saying stall, stall, stall.
But you guys know how I did.
>> But you guys aren't.
>> You know how I get to nursing homes. I told you.
>> Mhm.
>> I'm only asking for what I already got.
And if you don't give me what I already got, then you're pulled into it. So MEDC, you've already got the state attorney general investigation. We've got felony charges.
I'm just giving you a friendly warning.
Okay. The law department, this all starts from Detroit. Detroit digs up some holes cuz some whistleblowers at the Northland job said, "We took it to Detroit. We dumped it. We took it from here. Here's the manifest. Here's the tickets." Detroit digs it up, tests it. I'm not a scientist, people, but it's too contaminated for human contact. meaning it's bad for you. Okay? It's like don't go around in the attic with the insulation without a mask on.
It's it's it's kind of like that. Here's what Detroit's engaged in. Now, the guy that's accused of doing all this has filed a $100 million counter lawsuit to his criminal charges he's being looked into from the city law department.
The corporation council issued a privileged and confidential memorandum to the city council. It won't be made public and it's not to be discussed.
What kind of government is that? Okay.
They started testing this [ __ ] back in October. In November, they came out with the first test results. Since then, the number they're testing's gone up. They haven't told the public about a new one.
No results.
Is this good enough for you people? No.
>> This can't be good enough. It's right in your [ __ ] face.
>> Is Is there Is there a place where they have to post this stuff and they're just not?
>> I mean, this is >> Do they have to post it?
>> They don't have to do anything.
Obviously, >> we need the people to get [ __ ] mad because every time I tune into the city council, man, sorry you're dumb as rocks, but I know you're not dumb. You got no real life business experience.
Not one of them had a private industry sector job. Sort of like community activists or politicians, right?
>> Mhm.
>> You don't know.
That's for [ __ ] you. Oh, here's at least Elsad knows how to get his his minute in the sun. San Alman is in town declaring victory on a data center project they had to pass without public comment.
We need terms of engagement at the federal level to keep big tech from rolling over the state and local governments. You don't even know how to do it. Abdul, you're just saying [ __ ] right now. All the progressives are mad because Whitmer sold them out. But again, he didn't even mention her. But you could mention what you did with the nursing homes. He's supposed to be a health expert. Where is it? And then the people going, "I love Whitmer, but this is a bridge too far and too late. Everything else was good with you.
How you like your roads? How you like your data center? How like you like your dead grandma?" All right.
>> Oh, here's one. I You guys can never just read this. I'm not going to say who it is. I'm a candidate for blah blah blah. I filed sex assault charges against the city guy. He filed them against a woman. It's still under investigation.
My video can be found on YouTube. I'm now a candidate.
I suffer from schizophrenic effective disorder. I'm having suicidal thoughts and extreme shaking.
I'm running against the mayor's wife.
The detective will not return my calls.
City hall is run by demons. Nobody will take my call. I have become caps an enemy of the state. Intimidation, threatening. They kicked in my door and seized my devices.
Evidence of stalking, intimidation, threatening, harassment, and cyber bullying.
After I began posting about the matter online, this is my phone number.
What day did I get this?
Tuesday. Hit me.
>> See you next Tuesday.
Okay, brother. I'm going to call you.
Okay, bro. I'm going to call you. I will. But don't go on and on. I mean, it sounds a little nutty, do you? You know, I know. Forgive me. But we can talk about some things.
I'm I'm I'm going to give you a call.
But I got to look after um Sheila.
Sheila is an old lady. Call me. Moved out of the city. Moved up to Bloomfield.
Black mold, bad uh LLC management, old invalid. Can't move. Nobody will pay attention to her.
>> She was old and crying, though.
>> You see You see what goes on?
>> It's nuts, man. Yeah, maybe I'm going nuts. But >> the old lady I got I I said, "Look, I can't promise you."
>> One, >> huh?
>> That's one person I know. There's >> nobody looking for advocate or a lawyer or whatever, you know? I mean, >> I wish I had that kind of power, but I'll make a call to housing.
>> I don't think it's right somebody's renting in Bloomfield and somebody's being forced to live in Black Mo.
that that [ __ ] goes on in Westland and Garden City and Ingster and Detroit and uh you know Mcome and you know but Bloomfield holds itself up to some kind of level. So please return the call. Uh I I got I'm not going to put this one on the floor. I'm going to call you.
>> Okay. Uh the fireworks >> fireworks are coming and so are the teens probably. Do you guys want some inside? Yes, I like fireworks.
>> The number three in charge of the Detroit Police Department is out out on his a-hole. Okay, you have the chief. The chief is the PR wing for the for the mayor. You have the assistant super chief who's got an extra star now.
He's more administrative. And then you had a guy named Chuck Fitzgerald who was the street cop. Troops, you know, the map, right? where cars go, crime stats.
Three things happen. One, you didn't hear about this. In October, a rookie pulls a woman over. She got a big mouth.
She not calling people, not getting out of the car.
Pepper sprayed her. It's a She takes off. They chase her. You're not supposed to chase her. She does a UI. They do a UI. You're not supposed to do a UI.
Cop ends up shooting her six times.
Where's the ICE protesters?
>> Right?
>> You know why? Because I, as I wrote, you're not [ __ ] around with the local police. Cuz that's why you don't [ __ ] around with guys with badges and guns.
[ __ ] can go wrong. Okay.
Cop didn't get fired. Cops out getting investigated, right? Then there's the arbitration and the the board of police commissioners, etc. So, he's still on the job. So, this comes down to the number three cop, Fitzgerald. But now, I didn't talk to Fitzgerald, but I'm quite sure all this is pretty correct.
So, he's going to take the heat for it.
And the the chief's like, I didn't know anything about it. Okay, you didn't know anything about number two, Fitzgerald told city hall that the way you deal with these kids is you got to put hands on them. Not beat them up. You got to move them, rest them, ticket them. Well, that wasn't good. And then there was the incident with the police calling ICE downtown, which by the way is required is required by the oath and state law.
Local jurisdictions must cooperate with other jurisdictions, especially superior ones like the feds. So, but by that time, the mayor's asking for Fitzgerald's resignation, and if she doesn't get it, then the chief and Fitzgerald are going to be resigned. So, I don't think there's real world appreciation for how rugged a big city is, right? Budgeting, protection, garbage pickup. I think we're starting to see that. And there's going to be hearings because city council needs cover. Will there be a downtown super um what you call that when the kids got to go home? Curfew.
>> Curfew. Seattle.
>> Will it be at 8 o'clock?
>> Okay. Fireworks are at 9:00, right?
Maybe 9:30.
>> Sit on your roof and watch them.
>> That's where the [ __ ] I will be. I ain't going to be on the riverw walk, dude. Be crazy. There's no [ __ ] plan. So, they need to have a hearing to prepare the people of the city for uh if you're under 18, you can't be here after 8. I don't know. I just know when it first happened and the mayor comes out and says, "Kids need a place to go that you gave up a bishop right on the right on the board game right away." So, now you're locked into it.
>> When's the last time you were at the fireworks?
actually went down there.
>> I had a good time. Uh it was a couple years ago. It might have been precoid to be honest with you.
>> It's been a long time for me and just primarily because there's so many people down there and we didn't have a good I had an aunt that got mugged and yada yada yada.
>> Uh >> up north we have fireworks too. So, you know, they're not the Detroit fireworks, but you know, is it getting better? Is is are the streets I mean, tell me how safe it is down there. It was pre-COVID.
That's 6 years now, believe it or not, man. Co >> 6 years ago.
>> That's crazy. Uh, how is it now? I mean, is this planning that they're doing right now or kind of plan?
>> What are the fireworks?
>> I don't know. Come on, [ __ ] it now, you [ __ ] What are What are What are the statistics, man?
>> Where you're at? Like what? Gaylord, gring >> everywhere up there.
>> Everywhere up. We got fireworks.
Fireworks. Fireworks. Fireworks every day, man. We don't need We don't have to have fireworks. They just blow them off.
My neighbor probably is.
>> I like to have him drink as much as the next guy, but I ain't doing it.
>> Blowing [ __ ] up all the time. That's all I can tell you.
>> We got a guy down the street that throws a piece of dynamite out once in a while just for shits and giggles.
>> Oh, this must be crazy.
>> That's Northern Michigan for you right there. All right, real quick. Ken, get over here. conspiracy cat cuz okay again sorry if the show blew it was just me and my butt here can you can't sit down without some ample moon and show killer [ __ ] please >> here give him some barbecue sauce >> yeah here's some barbecue sauce all right so Scott P outed 60 minutes we'll be seeing him next Tuesday on MS now see you next See you, Scott. Let's be honest. Okay, so just and before you start reading 3 seconds, set it up. Don't go on along.
We don't got much time. Go.
>> Scott Py got fired from CBS.
>> He's this guy.
>> That's exactly Scott P.
>> Yeah, >> that's him. So, >> okay. He got Wait, let me let me just set this up. Scott Py, the the the grand pooha of 60 Minutes, gets a new boss.
They broom out some of these hasbins and he tells the new boss in front of everybody, you'll murder the show. You You are What was slender? He had slender credentials.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Scott freaking >> And he And this was like this was not like just one outburst like he went like it was a back and forth. Other executives at the meeting were like, "Tell him to shut up."
>> Like he was running the joint. They just [ __ ] sold it. The new boss is in. And you're like, "You're a murderer and you're not qualified to be here in the hallowed halls of Harvard Failure School.
>> Let me set it up for you. Scott P came from 60 Minutes 2, died, and he came to 60 Minutes in 1999.
That year 30 million people on average would tune in to the show. Last year it was 9 million. You lost 70% of your audience, right? That's not a winner. Now 9 million does not include the summer.
They don't even measure ratings.
>> June, July, August, September. No ratings. So no, you don't even know how bad it is. Their main ratings are in football season football. Okay. So now you're averaging 9 million with the 4:30 game right into 60 minutes, right? Okay.
>> On the weekends like um March, April, and May, their viewership's 5 million.
It's it's broken. And people tuned out.
And why did they tune out, Ken? Oh, because the stories weren't interesting and the the >> and they were wrong too many times.
>> They were wrong and the you you know the they pretend to be nonbiased. That's what they say. But everybody knows that they have a severe liberal slant.
>> Global warming, they left the stuff out.
Hunter Biden, they they buried it. They went along with the Russian collusion story. They edited Kla Harris's thing in a favorable way. You you could go on when you when you're mass communication.
You got to you got to keep it you got to keep it wide. You know what I mean? You you can't do cable. That's what they did. And and that's why he's he wasn't even going to be kicked out.
>> It turned into MSNBC on Sunday night.
That's what it was. Long form MSNBC.
Here's a story we want you to see.
That's totally >> I'd rather see Dean in the waiting pool at his Dino commercial.
>> Did you find that one? I found that one.
That one was better than uh Anderson Cooper skind diving with sharks. Get the [ __ ] out of here.
>> But but go ahead. So >> well anyway, so uh you know he got he got canned. They the new boss basically like >> Nick Bilton. Yeah.
>> You know, we tried to work with you.
They they tried to before that explosive meeting, they tried to sit down with him because they knew he had a problem and he told him to [ __ ] off. And then at the meeting he told him to [ __ ] off at the faces. Then they asked for another meeting and he didn't even he was like no. So they sent him a letter told he was fired. So he issues a statement. Uh now he has now >> come on quick you just read the statement.
>> Well he's got two of them. Give a guy a mic.
>> I want to hear >> part of his statement to the New York Times. He did two statements. One one statement I found was really good. He said well good in a bad way. He said, um, quote, "I have been in combat in Afghanistan.
I have been in combat in Iraq. I have been in the war zone in Ukraine multiple times, risking my life and the happiness of my family because of my decision to do this broadcast."
A real war hero.
>> Yeah. The collapse of values at the top has become untenable. The leadership of 60 Minutes is no longer recognizable.
The principles I hold dear are >> Thank you. Thank you. Uh Scott, you were amongst your your your colleagues that bought the scooter Libby Iraq weapons of mass destruction [ __ ] that helped push us in there. That's also I never did that. I don't know what he's talking about. You look here's how 60 Minutes works. I took uh some courses featuring Lel Bergman from 60 very famous man.
The correspondents don't do any [ __ ] work. It's the producers that do it. You The reason we're interested, sorry, you can tune out is we know TV. We know TV news. And unlike local TV news, at 60 minutes, they get handed a [ __ ] script. It's all done.
>> Yep.
>> Right. All the interviews are set up.
You just fly in and do this.
>> That's true.
>> And that's got to end. That's dumb. We want, sorry to say, it's masscom. It's got to be accurate. It's got to be balanced at least towards the truth, not to the truth gets halftime and the lie gets halftime. It's got to be right. And they just weren't doing it.
>> No, they sucked, man.
>> And like Barry Weiss quit the New York Times. She was on the woke end of things. And because she walked and go, we're way too far out there. She resigned. And now everybody's like, "Oh, she's super conservative." Because goes, "No, maybe maybe she's a I rarely use the word. Maybe she's a journalist." But Barry, remember when I applied to you, I walked before you did. I saw it. I'm out of here. That's why I walk with Fox. I saw it. I'm out. This is nowhere, man.
In fact, when I was at Fox, I was being recruited by David Rhodess, who was the news director of CBS, talking about doing 60 Minutes, and he goes, "I'm going to have to, you know, ease you in there, make clear some space, and it's like, you mean that pretentious pricks like this, that whole culture was rotten, that no new blood can get in, and now they got to they got to go to the woodshed."
You know what I mean? How good would it be? You're watching the Chiefs and the Chargers, last game of the season, right? Playing for number one seed. And then 60 Minutes comes on with some great [ __ ] that they've been promoting that you absolutely got to see. That's the formula, not some [ __ ] armature sucking [ __ ] I'm I'm sorry, Scott. [ __ ] off, man. Take take your millions and [ __ ] off. We're here to save the craft. And I you weren't part of it.
Dino Bach, where do they get you?
>> Well, first of all, >> okay, >> did you hear >> Did you read the letter? Did you hear the letter? I want to go back to over here.
>> This is overtime. Go to overtime.
>> The letter, >> donate, share, share, share.
>> The your fired letter was the best part when when when the boss came out and said, "Well, you know, I tried this and that didn't work and I we tried that and that didn't work and we tried that and that and now you're [ __ ] fired." You know, she came right out with cause.
>> With cause. Get out of here.
>> No money.
>> No. Hey, whatever. Get out. Don't let the door hit you in the ass. I love it.
>> What's going on locally here, >> you know?
>> Right. Locally here, which is Taran Ashers. I don't know if it's with cause or what not, but you're not going to be >> according to her lawsuit, they're not they were trying not to pay her. So, >> yeah, >> it looks like it was something for cause there. So their reasoning is you went ballistic in the newsroom, right?
>> Then you know, allegedly told off the GM, but she did it in private >> behind closed doors. It sounds like >> he did it in front of everybody.
>> Not not a real bright move on Scott.
>> He's making a stand.
>> He doesn't care.
>> He's doing it for show because he's launching his own thing probably.
>> Dude, I'm not as old as him, but what's that? Terry Moran from AB. Like >> Jim Aosta.
>> I I rotated with those clowns.
>> I mean Don Lemon. Like if you actually speak to them and talk like we're on the ground in Ferguson, everybody was there and is this is so distant that what they were doing from what was really going on on the ground. It's like this is fraudulent. This is just performative bunk. And don't take my word for it.
Look at the 70% fallout in your viewership and then trying to pretend like it's still successful. And then when you remove football, you you ain't doing any better than Greg Gutfeld at 10 o'clock on Fox.
>> Even worse probably in some weeks.
>> Well, he gets about three three and a half million. They get five. But for the money put into that show, >> it's Well, you got it's Greg Gutfeld versus 60 minutes, you know.
>> That's crazy. My point. Plus, he's giving you five hours of content a week.
>> Mhm.
>> So, technically, he's delivering 15 to 20 million a week.
This is the new reality. Get with it or get gone. See you next Tuesday.
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