The horseshoe theory of politics explains how extreme elements from both the left and right wings of a political movement eventually meet in the middle, united by a common concentrated interest such as socialism or foreign influence operations. This theory suggests that seemingly opposing political factions can align on specific policy goals despite their ideological differences, as both groups may be influenced by the same concentrated interests or foreign funding sources.
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All America, all the time. Sit down, buckle up, and get ready for the Dan Bonino Show. Folks, it's uh Tuesday, although it feels like a Monday for obvious reasons. 3-day weekend. You know why it is a three-day weekend? We'll get into in a moment. Of course, many of you already know. However, as is said often, I hate cliches, but in this case, it's valuable. It's not about barbecues. And I think you know that. It's nice if people get together, but it's about a bigger thing. I've got Judge Janine Piro coming up uh later as a guest on the show today. It is her first appearance on the show. Really excited. We're going to ask her about the 250th, the whole push to deweaponize what I would argue the most important United States attorney position in the country. Judge Janine, I work with her. She was absolutely incredible during my time there. So, don't miss that. Also, big news weekend. Shots fired at the White House. another attack on the President Trump White House. Uh, quickly some comments on that and then a potential surprise in 2028.
Uh, I say that because I don't necessarily think this would be a bad thing if these things happen. I'll tell you what I mean later because there's been a lot of back and forth on both sides on this. I've seen a thousand videos after the Kentucky primary is over about everybody like crashing out and all this stuff. I'm just trying to handle this from like a sane objective position about hey here's where we are.
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First, folks, it was Memorial Day this weekend. I want to take a moment to again thank all of the families who have lost a loved one in combat in service of this great nation. And that flag behind me, ladies and gentlemen, the flag, it's not about the cloth. It could be made out of a napkin. It's the symbolism that stands for something bigger and better than all of us alone. That is the unmistakable symbol of liberty and freedom around the world. Whether it's the flag or the military that backs it up or this powerful freedom loving, libertyloving, you know, God-given big R capital right system. That flag is unique. And I hate the word unique because it's ironically overused, but not in this case. There has never been anything like the United States and there never will be again. Wake up every morning and thank the good Lord.
Whatever God you pray to, I pray to Jesus Christ and capital G, God the Father in heaven. I say thank you for having me, having me, allowing me to be born in this country at this time. And you know, this country did not have to exist. Folks, don't think it was inevitable. It was not a snap. It's not some comic book. Men, women, people died for this. Bled, died horrible deaths through the Revolution, 1812, the Civil War, World War I, World War II, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. People died horrible deaths so that we can sit here on Memorial Day and have a burger with family and friends and smile, have a beer with them. We can just enjoy each other's company without the threats of nuclear missiles taking us out because of what our brave men and women did.
Folks, there have been great sacrifices made by my family members. I put this out every Memorial Day. It's a picture of my uncle uh Greg who died in Vietnam.
He received two bronze stars, including one with a V device. I put out this tweet every single Memorial Day. There he is right there. And every Memorial Day, people respond, if you want to look at the tweet yourself with pictures of their own loved ones they lost in combat. He died heroically. I put his story, his official story as per the United States military out again. He got two bronze stars, first battalion, first infantry division. That's a big red one, I think, right? For all those in the chat. But he saved his he died south of Thu Duck, as I tell you in the story below. He made first uh they made first contact. He was the lead element of a friendly force when they made contact with a reinforced Via Kong platoon using heavy machine guns, claymores, and small arms fire. Private first class Ambrose dashed to the point of heaviest contact where he provided highly suppressive fire to cover for his uh comrades trying to get out there. He didn't he didn't back away. He joined a fight. He unfortunately he was mortally wounded saving his friends and received two bronze stars, one with a V device for valor. Thank you, Uncle Greg. I'm sorry I never met you. He died after the Ted offensive in March of 1968, just a few months after.
Good man.
My family was changed forever. My grandmother was never the same when she lost her son. And a lot of you out there in your family sacrificed, too. I also want to acknowledge my grandfather. He since passed. He died in 2002. Frank Bongino fought in World War II. I I found some of his stuff um years back.
This is his patch from he was the 38 39th quartermaster division. They delivered uh basically fuel and supplies to the front lines. There it is right there. U that was his patch. I didn't know what this was when I first found it in a bag. So, he also had some cool stuff in this bag. He had his prayer book from World War II and a little handy Germanspeaking guide. And uh here's his little uh the mass card thing when he died. And then I found this too.
This is a certificate. He brought back a uh a Fabri National Browning 1910. And it had um the uh when they took over the Freak National Factory, the Nazis in in World War World War II, they would stamp the Nazis Nazi insignas on the weapons.
I still have that. So, it's a family heirloom. He brought it back and this was a certificate from his captain acknowledging that it was taken from uh from the Germans. So, thank you to everyone who served. Uh it's um it's an unimaginable honor for me as a citizen of the United States to know that people like you also swore allegiance to the Constitution, too. Thank you so much for everything you did. All right, folks. It was a big weekend. A lot happened. Uh yesterday being Memorial Day, I we were off. We were off not because we didn't want to do the show, because it's just I'd rather you spend some time with your family. I you know we we love the show but it's there are more important things in life but there was a big news weekend this weekend. I was sitting there and I thought please don't tell me this is happening again and it did. Um another attack at the White House. Uh the subject in the case that had numerous contacts with the mental health system.
This is a reporter live on the air doing a live shot at that Pebble Beach area on the north grounds of the White House where they do all the live press avails.
And you can see her response as they hear I think it was 17th Street in Penn where if you want to look it up on a Google map or an Apple map or whatever you can see it's right there.
>> She hears the shots far. Play that if you >> President Trump has said a deal is happens right here only for the two sides to remain far apart.
>> I don't blame you shots fired right there. And that. And by the way, remember a lot of those mics have gated I'm not an audio guy, but you guys are. They have like gated compressors, right? So you're hearing that and it's still loud. That's not how that sound in real life. In other words, if I'm not going to do it, but if I were to scream, you're going to see me scream. You're going to hear it elevation, but you're not going to hear it as it actually sounded because the compressor compresses it. So that was a lot louder. She of course did the smart thing and takes cover right away. You want to stand there with gunfire.
However, folks, I'll be on uh Sean Hannity's show tonight talking about this and some other things. Um, this president is obviously the mo I say obviously because the data backs it up, the most threatened US president, former president. He was former in between we've ever seen. He is going to require, just the quick takeaway point on this, this president is going to require, we hope he lives a long life after this presidency, too. He is going to need presidential level security forever.
It's not negotiable. I'm just hoping the next administration, Republican or Democrat, does the right thing. This appears to have been a case of the mental health system. This this subject in the case had numerous contexts with the mental health system. The Secret Service does try to categorize people that constantly threaten the president.
Different categories of threats, class one, class two, and class three. So, I don't know where this guy was on. He probably was a class three. Uh, however, there's just not enough people in the Secret Service to be watching these people all the time. There's just not. I think it's way past time. By the way, I said it and I know Director Curran's moving in the direction here. They've got to they they've got to dramatically expand the special weap the Secret Service special weapons team. It's known as CAT uh counter assault team. It's a SWAT team for the Secret Service.
They've got to expand that dramatically and they got to start using him, I think, even around the White House grounds where typically that's a uniform division role. They made some adjustments there, too. But Donald Trump is just the most threatened figure in modern politics, I think, anywhere in the world. And we've got to meet the moment. We cannot have anything happened to President Trump. So, there is uh there's there's my two cents on that.
Okay, switching gears because again, a lot happened and we rolled into Tuesday.
got Judge Janine coming up. Folks, the Kentucky primary race with Massie was about bigger things than Tom Massie and and we're not going to be talking about this endlessly. However, there is a potential that Tom Massie may come back and run for president. He's already filed to run again in 2028, which is for his congressional seat. And by the way, that's the system. If he thinks he's got ideas to win, um, good for you. Throw your name back on a ballot. Let the people, that's democracy. It's how it works. You know, no one should be shut out of a system because you don't like them or like their ideas. Let you know, let the people decide. The people did decide in Kentucky 4. However, I bring this up because there are people, you know, you ever see that movie like New Jack City? Like there were these New Jacks who we've just seen them like over the last couple years. And if we had like a MAGA tent, right? Oh, there we go. Thank you guys. Thomas Massie for Congress. I follow with the FC to run for the 2028 House race. I wouldn't be surprised if he runs for president either. But there are these people like that just showed up, the New Jacks in the tent. They insult everybody in the tent. I told you like they show up at the party, they take a big dump in the punch bowl, and then they wonder why people who have busted their ass for the Republican party, the conservatarian movement, people who have, you know, stood by and and knocked on the doors and done the sweat equity work, they wonder why people get pissed off. Well, this stuff doesn't help. Okay, here is I saw this clip this weekend. Um, this is Andrew Schultz and Charlemagne. I don't know. So, he calls himself Charlemagne the God or whatever. He doesn't really talk much, but this comedian Andrew Schultz like this kind of stuff really doesn't help calling the voters of Kentucky quote retards. I'm pretty confident like that's really not an effective mechanism, especially when you're the ones who fell for the SCOP and the concentrated interest cause, not us. This actually happened. Check this out.
>> I mean, after seeing these retards in Kentucky vote in this latest uh I think it was a primary.
>> It was a primary. Um >> congratulations, guys. Like for for a long time I've hated it when people just like especially like coastal elites just like on you know uh southern states and they say that they're like dumb and all this other stuff. I hate it. I think it's so stupid. You never even been to these places. How dare you like throw these, you know, horrible things on these people. And then an election like this comes up and they fall for it and it's just like congrats man. You guys lived up to every single stereotype anybody ever said about you.
Um, number one, I How do you think it was a primary? Did you guys catch that?
Andy, did you Andy, did you catch that?
He's like, I think it was a primary.
What do you mean you think it was election day in November? Like, you didn't Maybe don't Listen, I'm not telling you what to talk about or not talk about. I I love I am the free I put my money and my ass on the line for free speech long before any of these people, you know? I invest in platforms that people get on there, on me all the time. Good for you. That's what free speech is about.
But what do you mean you think it's a primary? You don't know how elections work and you're calling the voters of Kentucky retards.
Does that is anyone in the production room saying is anyone else they're the retards?
Folks, a lot of these people were never part of our movement. I'm just telling you like this is a big op. This is a huge op. There is so much foreign money being flushed into the United States to wipe out the maggot tent from the inside. I'm stunned more people don't pick up on it. And then to accuse other people of being quote retards and falling for an op you fell for is really stunning.
So, uh, Massie may run again in 2028.
He's not ruling out the possibility. I'm talking about for president. That tends the title of the show today. He's already filed to run for Congress. Let's go a little out of order. The minute the one where he says it, he's going to have a little issue though because on the campaign trail, he's already said like if he wins or loses, he's not running again. I mean, people do this all the time. I wouldn't necessarily, you know, nail them on this one. However, he did say he wasn't going to run again and now he's already filed. So, whatever. He's got that to deal with. Check this out.
>> I have got to get past May 19th. If I if I lose on May 19th, I am not doing any more government ever.
I'm not not running for president, not running for governor.
Uh it's it's a sign from God or the people or both that I, you know, would should go back to the farm.
All right. You know, whatever. People say that all the time. However, he was on was it Meet the Press this weekend with Kristen Welker or is it Kirsten Welker? I don't really care to be honest with you. Was on this weekend and is already dropping hints about a presidential run. Now, hold Braveheart.
Before we get there, I'm going to paint for you two scenarios. And I actually think one of them wouldn't be a bad thing.
Folks, if you really believe, and and I'm quoting someone else, so these are not my words. If you really believe that Kentucky four voters, Kentucky District 4 voters are quote retards, um, and are too stupid, uh, you know, a bunch of hay seeds or whatever stereotype you want to impart upon these amazing Americans who sacrifice and bust their ass and in farms and factories every single day so people can do like comedy shows and things like that. If you really believe they're quote, you know, retards, then I actually think maybe it's a good thing to make this a national fight. Uh you'll see the clip in a second, but if Tom Massie wants to run on, you know, the uh president's a pedophile agenda and he really thinks like Israel's the number one issue for every American out there and he fell for this scup because it's not. It's not. There are people who value the upsides of a relationship.
Understand there are downsides too. I promise you like if it's your only the only thing you care about and I got a clip coming up about that. You are in the minority of minorities. If you really think this is a national issue, then let's hash it out. So scenario one, Tom Massie runs for president. Let's see how he does on the Republican primary in the And yes, Andrew, it will be in fact a primary before the general. That's the way these things work. You don't have the primary after the general. All right. So, let's hash it out. You know, other people have run on these agendas before within the Republican party. And then it's kind of a national referendum.
What are you going to do? Call the whole country quote retards? If he doesn't win? Okay. Second is if he runs under a third party agenda, it's only to hand the election to the Democrats. That's it. There is no math. I I I wish it weren't the case. I wish we had, you know, a healthier Republican. I'm not telling you the Republican party's been cured of all its ills in the MAGA era. I get it. However, there is no math for that. If you don't get to 270 because there's a third party ticket splitter in the electoral college, the race goes to the House. And in the House, there are not enough third party independent members to sway the election. It's going to be a Republican or a Democrat. That's it.
So that scenario is just handing it to the Democrats. You're just handing it to them.
Here he was, uh, Tom Massie on Kirsten Christristen Welker show this weekend kind of hinting at the possibility of even running for president in 2028.
We'll see what happens. Anybody could do it. You want to try, try. But I think we do need to have this national fight right now. Check this out.
>> I will not rule out anything. And right now, I'm not going to rule in anything.
Look, I've spent the last five days on my farm with my grandkids and my cattle and my peach trees, and it's a pretty nice life. I don't know if I want to screw that up again. I've been in Congress 14 years fighting. Every hour that passes, I get decompressed a little bit more. It's like coming up from the bottom of the ocean. And um I'll take some time and decide what's next, but I I think I will stay engaged in some way or shape. Maybe it's from the outside.
Folks, the problem here I and I've tried to explain this and people just don't get I don't know like do you believe in receipts or not? I know if you're in my audience you do. I know it bothers people who hate my guts and believe me I I fully align with the Aunt Jane theory of life. God rest her soul. That was my godmother. Obviously my mother's sister self-praise things. However, numbers are numbers. We have probably the largest MAGA podcast out there. We just do. So if this movement was so dead as a doornail, how come you can't build a bigger audience than this audience? And I say that because every day I see these things with these like little halfass twobit like failed podcast people like this guy's crashing out, that guy's crashing out is you. I didn't lose. I didn't lose. My my candidate won. I don't even know what you're talking about. You fell for the OP. And the OP is a simple one. You made your whole campaign about this foreign influence or money trying to pump into American politics that the only issue you should care about all the time is Israel.
That's it. That I don't know what how many times I have to tell you. Go down to your local deli, bodega, supermarket, quickie mart, whatever the hell. Find a place in the Simpsons. Go in there and tap the random Republican voter on or Democrat. It doesn't even matter. and ask them what the number one issue is.
You're going to find in the real world that you were the one who fell for this op. This is what I mean. I saw this debate this weekend between uh Anna Casparian who's is she one of the young turds. She's one of the turds, I think.
Right. I think she I think she was one of the turds. Well, either way, she aligns with the turds. And you know that that fat slob kink always screaming and yelling into the cankasaur screaming into the microphone when he's not shoving a Twinkie in his mouth. All they want to tweet about. Oh, Spank Spank sent spent the whole week. He spent the whole weekend. That was actually a slip.
I was g but it's good. Spank Spank spent the whole weekend tweeting again about Israel and they're wondering why they're losing elections. Here's a debate between uh Shabas Castenbalam and Anakasparian. And all they want to talk about is well a lot of money came into Ed Gr's camp. A lot of money came into Massiey's campaign too. Kla Harris spent a billion dollars. What what's your point? Check this out. It's interesting that you talk about Zionist billionaires because actually Jeff Yas funded Thomas Massiey's campaign as well. I find it interesting that you don't talk about Nyak, the National Iranian American Council. I find it interesting you don't talk about the Council on American Islamic Relations. I find it interesting you don't talk about the Jordanian Muslims, the Maruk family, who also funded him. You don't talk about the Iranian Joe Keiny who I hope I'm pronouncing his name correctly. I find it interesting that you're talking about how Apac has this ability to simply fund elections with any money they want. Yet Moren Galindo, who said that American Zionists need to be put in internment camps, actually won her election yesterday. Chris Rab, who said that the Bondi Beach massacre, which killed 10 Jews by an Islamist, including a 9-year-old girl, Matilda, he said it was a false flag, he won his election yesterday. So if Apac is, you know, buying any election they want, how come they didn't buy those elections? Why did they allow those candidates to win? So again, if you want to focus on money, then sure, Thomas Massie also raised $15 million from Islamist groups, from far-left Democrats. He went on your show repeatedly, but look, Kla Harris raised a billion repeatedly. She stole Excuse me. Excuse me. He went on your show the day before the election. All right.
>> I Thomas go on your show the day before the election >> issues and had to drop off.
>> I am making the point that even if you have money in politics, which I want to get rid of, that still doesn't translate into forcing Kuckians to not support a candidate. Kla Harris had a billion dollars and she still lost. What? You're you're telling me that 60,000 Kuckians who wanted strong borders, who wanted DHS funded, who didn't believe that Donald Trump was a pedophile, they were forced into voting against Thomas Massie? No. They didn't like the guy.
That's what elections come down.
>> This is my point. Do you understand how this is the the foreign Trump has no agency and his voters are stupid puppet master theory. No agency, like no control over their own lives. like a principal agent problem that this foreign government, the Kentucky quote, you know, voters fell for this.
That's what this is. It is an insult on its face. It's an insult on its face.
There was money spent on both sides. You just can't digest the fact that despite mountains of money on both sides that the guy who was out there spouting the you know Israel Israel Epstein class pedos all you just can't accept the fact he got smoked.
What crashing up? One's crashing out but you guys. That seems like a bit of projection. You should look that up.
Just like the primary dates should check that out.
Couple of things. Every prediction you guys made on the other side on the this is all about Israel. It failed. Every prediction the audience wasn't going.
Everything you said about the show failed. Everything you told the audience, oh the maggot thing is dead, failed. And you fell for the oldest trick in the book. You fell for the concentrated interest problem. When there is a small group of people who made their entire lives about this one issue and you think it's the guy sitting next to you in the Wawa, it is not. I I I don't know what else you need to see.
The election was not close. I don't know what else you need to see. You could continue to run on this and I promise you will continue to lose in the primary process. Now, you may win something in the general because there are a lot of leftists like Graham Platner and others who are totally aligned with this foreign Israel buying everybody and their and their votes. Our people are too stupid. Kentucky voters are retards.
There are people on the left who align with this too. But that's not our people. Those are the new jacks walking in the tent. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the horseshoe theory of politics that eventually when you get one of these concentrated interest cases, especially when it involves foreign influence or perceived foreign influence in a campaign and how voters are quote retards and stupid and everything else, the horseshoe theory is you eventually get elements pretending to be on both wings of the party who horseshoe around and meet each other in the middle. A lot of these folks pretending to be part of the MAGA movement are saying the exact same thing far-lefts are talking about.
The pedos and the government, the Trump administration, this cabal, it's the same that a lot of the leftist people are talking about. It's the same thing, folks. These people on the left, they don't care about fighting Nazis.
There's a guy running in Maine with a freaking Nazi tattoo on his chest.
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So, the horseshoe theory of politics.
Digest it. Tattoo it on your brain.
Think it, own it, love it. Because once you see what it is, you'll understand how eventually over time these two groups of people on the what we call the fringe wind up meeting in the middle for a common cause, a concentrated interest.
In this case, socialism is the concentrated interest for them outside of the foreign policy issue with Israel.
Their domestic policy issue is advancing socialism. Socialism. Socialism, let's be very clear, is the government takeover of the means of production when they run everything in the economy.
That's what socialism is. It has never succeeded. There is no successful example of socialism on planet Earth.
Stop telling me about Scandinavia.
That's a big government welfare state model. The government does not own the means of production like they did in the Soviet Union, which was a union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Don't tell just look it up. It has never worked.
So M Dami who's talking exactly like these people infiltrating the new jacks trying to infiltrate our movement. They want to just the system destroy the whole the whole system that's led to most successful country in the on the on the face of God's green earth. Here's mom dami this weekend that socialists are going to have to clean up the mess.
Clean up the mess left by who? Other socialists. Does he realize Delasio was the mayor? Delasio was a socialist himself. Cleaning up the mess by who?
Listen to this >> Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
>> If anything, my friends, it seems that you eventually need a socialist to clean up the mess.
On January 1st, I told New Yorkers that city hall would hold a singular purpose, to make this city belong to more of its people than it did the day before. For 102 days, we have endeavored to do exactly that. Folks, I the reason I'm discussing this now is it goes back to the issue I opened with in the show involving what happened in Kentucky and elsewhere. Do not mistake a concentrated interest and a ragebot set of posts on X for the real world. It's not. The real world just kicked a lot of people in the nuts last week when they realized like, oh Twitter isn't the real world.
It is not. The world of people who want hardcore socialism in the United States exists only on Tik Tok, Snapchat, X and other social media platforms. That is it. Nobody is giving up their private property. No one is giving up their job to work for a government wage. No one's giving up the price mechanism in favor of rationing. That's what capitalism is.
There is nobody doing that. This is strictly an online subversive mechanism.
foreign governments pumping money into the United States to make you believe that this is some huge grassroots effort to overthrow capitalism.
They've been saying the same thing forever. Why do you keep falling for this? There are, listen to me, no successful examples of socialism, communism that have ever worked in human history without torture, enslavement, death, destruction, starvation. There are none. Because people yearn to be free. It's not some freaking poem, man.
It's the real world. Nobody wants to give control of their money, their job, or their kids to the government. They don't because the government doesn't know about your life. That's called the knowledge problem. Look it up in your favorite AI system, Friedrich Hayek, the knowledge problem. The government doesn't know anything about your life. So what do they do? They do this astroturf campaign they've been pulling for years. If Bernie Sanders was so effective, follow me here. Get that Maze Moore clip ready.
If Bernie Sanders had such a grassroot army of people, grassroots army of people that really believe this, that socialism is a better way. We want to work for the government. We want rationing.
We don't want to own anything. We want the government to collectively own our businesses. Then how come Bernie Sanders has not been able to move the needle on this since the '9s? The answer is because it's It's largely foreign funded funded ops being conducted on you to make you believe you should forfeit over your agency and your freedom to people like Bernie Sanders who's never had a real freaking job in his life and is a millionaire himself.
Here's Bernie Sanders for decades with the exact same message. He's been pumping up people's cabooseas forever and people still fall for this.
Check this out. This great country of ours is moving very rapidly in the direction of oligarchy. The United States of America today is increasingly becoming an oligarchy. More and more moving toward an oligarchy. We are moving in the direction of oligarchy. We will move even more rapidly in the direction of an oligarchy. This great country is evolving into an oligarchic society.
It is called oligarchy and that is the system we are rapidly moving toward.
This is a budget that moves our country rapidly into the direction of oligarchy.
>> A handful of billionaires are moving this entire planet toward an oligarchic society. We start off with the bad news, which is pretty bad, and that is that under Donald Trump, this country is hurtling rapidly toward oligon.
Folks, he's been saying the same thing for decades. This guy is full of He's got this big mass movement that hasn't moved the needle one bit because the movement's fake. No one's giving up their kids, their healthcare, their money, or their business to the government. Because what the hell does Bernie Sanders know about running your business? THIS GUY COULDN'T RUN A FREAKING TACO STAND. And Justin brought up a great point. He's like, "Man, this guy, if if you were listening on Apple and Spotify, watch the video, it's on Maze Moore's X account as well.
This guy is not aged a bit, but the weird thing is he's always looked old.
Like he looked in 2018 as old as he is, he looked the same way in 93. Usually go usually not aging a bit would be a compliment. Like what the hell is this guy taking? Some kind of like special stabilization serum that he only hit in 1993 after aging prematurely. He's full of it. They've been running on the same crap. There's this cabal and they tried it again in Kentucky. There's this cabal of the Epstein pedo class and the White House and they're stealing everything from the only person trying to steal anything from you is the Bernie Sanders class and a bunch of new jacks trying to jump in our tent to get you to forfeit your freedom away. That's it.
Donald Trump's big beautiful bill. What did it do? It gave you back more of your money. Donald Trump's deregulatory efforts where there's not a bunch of red tape telling you how to run your business gave you back agency in decision-making process. Linda McMahon and their push and the Trump Department of Education elsewhere to constantly support school choice gives you back more of your education freedom to make decisions for your kids. It's the exact opposite of an oligarchy. What are you talking about?
Why do I bring it up now? Because there's an election coming up in November. Someone should tell that guy.
He's a little confused. But there's an election coming up. They're called the midterms.
Maybe inform him too that the House of Representatives, they're up every two years. The Senate, they're broken up into classes. A third, a third, a third.
The Senate races are every six years.
The Senate term of office is every six years. So a third of the Senate is up this year. And the Senate race in Maine, the candidate in Maine has an actual Nazi tattoo. He is a Democrat and everybody loves him. I thought the Democrats TOLD YOU THEY'RE THE PARTY FIGHTING THE NAZIS. I thought that's what I thought that's what they said.
Here's Bernie Sanders at a rally for Graham Platner with the Nazi tattoo.
Forget the Nazi thing for a I can't believe it was forget the Nazi. It's the Just for a second though, I want you to look at what the sign on the stage at the Graham Platner with the Nazi tattoo rally says with Bernie Sanders. Sounds like the same he's been saying since 1993.
Because it is. Check this out.
>> We will not just fight the oligarchy. We will defeat the oligarchy and the political system that it maintains.
We will defeat the political system that it maintains. The politics of Susan Collins. A polit a politics that turns politicians into millionaires but tells you to be grateful for crumbs.
>> It is a lie.
Again, from a dude who has never managed to build anything, create products that add value to society. Just like that bum Bernie Sanders who's never had a real job because he can't because he has no life skills. They don't have any skills to add value. So they run on the politics of envy that this class of people in the Trump administration trying to steal everything from you.
Sounds kind of like what you heard in the primary, right? It's the same op, man. These people are totally full of They are not allies. I saw this art, this goes to show you too, I saw this in the Wall Street Journal this weekend. There was this fascinating article by this uh, you know, wealthy New Yorker saying that this tax on second homes, which sounds great. My gosh, you have a second home in New York. You're so rich. They totally completely either lie to you or are too stupid to know how an economy works.
There's this piece up about this second home tax, a wealthy New Yorker's case, and this Julia Mack law says, "I pay the highest income tax rates in the nation.
Why shouldn't part- timerrs contribute something, too?"
She said that, "Hey, the difference is their income comes from outside of New York. They spend less than half the year." That's because they don't live there.
By the way, they pay tax on the business they do in New York. They pay taxes when they buy and sell the homes. They paid sales taxes in New York when they buy stuff. Do you realize these people have to lie to you all the time? All they do is run on the politics of othering like the other guys trying to. They never worry about themselves. It's always about my gosh, some rich millionaire bought a second home in New York. How is this impacting your life? Some homeowner wanted to sell. A tax was paid on uh on uh on the income they make in New York.
They pay sales taxes. And by the way, they don't even live there. So they're not using sanitation services. They're not calling the police. They're not sending their kids to the public schools. Most of the time, this is like a win-win for you. These people don't get it or they don't want you to get it.
There is no in between on this, right? I mean, the property taxes, do they not know that, folks? Compare that with the results administration, the Trump administration, which has been racking up W's left and right, and you'll see why the New Jacks trying to infiltrate the 10th, want to destroy this thing before the midterms. This is the nothing is happening crowd. It is the biggest scop you have ever seen. I got Judge Janine coming up in a minute.
We're talking about a lot of things that happen. I love when they send out these uh they're like Benghazi. Did you miss the Benghazi? I mean, like, are you just that stupid?
Co. Did you miss the co arrest? Deep state. Did you miss those two? Like, do you guys ever pay attention? Do you know anything? Was it a primary? Yeah, it was a primary.
Retards in. You didn't know it was a primary and you're calling Kentucky voters retards.
Compare that with the W's administration.
The winds racking up left and right. Do you understand that the safest United States in US history by numbers, homicide rate, the crime rate, the safest United States you've ever lived in, you live in now, thanks to people at like Judge Janine and President Trump and what happened at the FBI and the DEA under President Trump's leadership. You live in the safest United States ever.
Even if you don't believe any of the crime numbers, one number, it's inevitable. Well, you'd have to is homicides.
Nobody Nobody doesn't report a dead person. Correct. Justin, if you knew someone in the neighborhood that died, it's pretty likely like their family's like, "Hey, where's my kid? Where's my dad?" Nobody fails to report a dead. If it does, it happens rarely and they'll find some body floating in the river. It is so rare. The homicide rate is the lowest it's been in modern US history.
There's no argument in numbers. But I want you to see how, again, horseshoe theory, how the left-wing media aligns with the nothing is happening when tons of things are happening crowd to make you believe that isn't real. Here's Kendall Delanian, Fusion Kendallian, one of the biggest scam artists in the media, guy who's been called out so many times for like running ops on people. Here's Kendallian hattip Mazemore here. back in 2024 when the Biden administration got caught fudging the crime numbers versus the crime numbers now. So, just to be clear, Biden's team fudges the crime numbers. He defends them. The Trump team cleans up the crime numbers. And I'll get to that with Judge in a minute how they did that and he doesn't believe them. Now, this is all This is horseshoe theory summed up in one clip.
Check this out.
>> The latest numbers from the FBI, which come from cities, by the way. that the FBI doesn't make these numbers up, showed that violent crime overall declined by a rate of 3% in 2023. The Republicans and others are pushing the narrative that this data is wrong, that crime is somehow up when it's down.
Violent crime has declined significantly over the last few years and appears to be continuing to decline. It's a good news story. Uh it's too bad that not everybody is prepared to accept it.
Sources are telling us is that there's no larger number of fugitives or arrestes being taken off the street.
It's just simply a numbers game. It was remarkable to hear Cash Patel really lean into these stats which our sources say are basically bogus. These stats do not reflect additional suspects being taken off the streets is what our sources are telling us. These stats just don't add up. And Patel is claiming credit for things that really aren't real. Kendallian is a folks. I lived it. Kendallian fusion Ken who's been exposed even by liberal outfits as a deep state media hack is totally full of What Ken doesn't want to tell you is put up that House GOP thing. The Biden team was fudging the numbers. So were a lot of liberal police departments by under reporting by not waiting for reporting to come in. We were the ones who cleaned up the numbers. And because President Trump told places like Washington DC and elsewhere, you better clean up your reporting. get us an accurate number. It's even more impressive. It's even more here. House GOP 2024 discreetly revised data shows violent crime is increased under this administration despite misleading claims from Democrats. That was under the Biden team. Kendallian doesn't want to tell you anything about that. And then when like the homicide rate drops off the face of the earth by both percentage and raw numbers, he doesn't want to admit any of it. It's the horseshoe theory.
He's no different than the New Jacks trying to tell you constantly despite amazing unprecedented things happened.
Nothing's happening. They didn't do anything. What did they do? They didn't do did everything. You know how many people are alive right now because of this crime crackdown? They are totally full of and they told you nothing was happening. Nothing was happening in the fraud scheme, too. Vice President Vance and Colin McDonald, the assistant attorney general, have been absolutely cleaning up on these fraud schemes.
Here's just a quick hit on a ton of more arrests. They pull down on this thing.
Stuff's happening all over the place.
They just want you to believe nothing's happening so you don't go out and vote for more good things to happen. It's an op. Learn to see through it and you'll never get fooled again and you won't be a retards in Kentucky. Check this out.
Today we are announcing criminal charges against 15 defendants in Minnesota for fraud schemes that targeted over 90 million in taxpayer dollars.
Let me be clear upfront about something.
This is not the end of our work in Minnesota. This is not the end of the beginning of our work in Minnesota. This is the beginning of our work in Minnesota.
The fraud here in Minnesota is shocking.
>> I'm just going to tell you, man, that that opening clip has really bothered me. I've referenced it a couple times. I mean, can you imagine you're you live in Kentucky 4 in God's country out there.
You do nothing more than go and exercise your God-given big all right to vote for the candidate of your choice. You've done nothing wrong. You go to church.
You work hard. You take care of your kids. Maybe you take your kid to a sports game once in a while, University of Kentucky football game or something like that, and some elitist snob podcast dude is calling you a because you fell for the nothing is happening op. Yeah. Donald Trump's just sitting in DC to do what? To make more money like he needed it. You think Janine and and me and others who went in there and gave up successful shows and she was on the five. It's only the most popular show on TV. Pete Hegsath had a great gig going. You think people are doing this to go there and jerk around and do what the hell is wrong while you're sitting on your podcast couch?
Kentucky voted retards.
Here's another here's even little things and they're not they're only little because President Trump does so much. I uh you know it's like dog years with President Trump like a year of President Trump's like seven years of everyone else.
Here was another thing you folks out there. You ever had your air conditioner repaired recently? I live in Florida.
Air conditioners break down here in Florida all the time like every 10 minutes. So I had a guy in my old house come by HVAC guy and he's like Dan these systems are just garbage. I'm like how are they garbage? Like cars have gotten better, computers have gotten more powerful. He said, "It's the lefties.
They can't make an HVAC system under these ridiculous government regulations work anymore." He said, "If you have an air conditioner made in the 80s, it's probably better than an air conditioner was made 5 minutes ago." I said, "Really?" He said, "Yes." He's like, "It's not me. It's not me. It's these systems." He goes, "I can bring in five, six other ones. They're probably going to still have issues, too." That was all because of the the the the green hysteric. The world's going to end it to Bernie Sand. The oligarch is going to do it. Here's President Trump again. A little thing in his world, a huge thing for everyone else who JUST DOESN'T WANT TO die of heat exhaustion in their house in Florida and get a freaking AC that works. Here he is signing some regulations to make sure you get an air conditioner that works. This is the Donald Trump racking up W's agenda.
Check it out. Today is my honor to be discussing uh the taking of a very historic action to substantially lower costs for consumers, protect hundreds of thousands of jobs, and save Americans well over $2 billion a year by officially terminating the Biden administration's ridiculous regulations imposing costly requirements on refrigerators and air conditioners.
It's ridiculous. unnecessary and costly and actually makes the machinery worse.
>> Anyone in the chat in the HVAC business or in the HVAC business in Kentucky?
Then we definitely love because I know people are busting their ass working for We would love to hear from you.
Everything he said there is true.
The winds are happening every day. Do not fall for the horseshoe theory new jack Here's another one. CBS immigration judges, there's a problem.
The problem is for years we've let the court system on the immigration side atrophy. So what does President Trump do about it? They fix it.
Exclusive. The Trump administration this week on boarded more than 80 new federal immigration judges in their push to expedite deportation and their crackdown on illegal immigration. I I thought nothing is again every day things are happening that the nothing is happening crowds tell you are not happening. and when they happen, they ignore them and then people fall for it by calling others names.
Maybe people didn't fall for it. Maybe people like in Kentucky or elsewhere are what we know them to be, smart, educated, hardworking voters who care about the communities who are following what's happening and are liking it and want more of it. Has that ever occurred to you?
More happened this weekend, too. There's been a another uh that's still going on right now up in New Jersey that folks they do this all the time. Everything the Bernie Sanders far-left AOC Democrats Graham Platner and everyone does is performance art like the oligarch. They're the oligarchy.
Everything is performance. So what do the Democrats do? There's an ice facility in New Jersey. Now, here's what the Democrats won't tell you. Because they know it's Memorial Day weekend and there's probably not going to be any public visitations. The Democrats, of course, you guys know this. They show up and they're like, "Hey, they did this strategically, but we demand to be let they're keeping us out. They're nobody's keeping you out. You did this as performance art." So, there was a bunch of chaos. You vo There's a bunch of chaos. We saw this weekend. You see this an ice facility? Of course, this is all they have. Folks, keep in mind a number of these people in this facility have orders of removal because they committed serious crimes in the United States. So what happens? The performance art democrats who show up want these people released into your communities. They want you released in their communities to rape, assault, burglarize your homes, rob you, and potentially murder you because they don't give a Most of these people, I guarantee you, don't even live in this community in New Jersey. The only difference is President Trump and his Department of Justice and his ICE team and DHS right now aren't having any of your >> So, of course, the Democrats in front of the mic, I want you to advocate. I want you to have it. Just be honest, Democrats. Just say like, "We want rapists and murderers back in the community. Just say what it is because that's what you want."
Of course, another thing happened this weekend on the immigration front because again, I keep hearing it wasn't just over injustice, but in DHS2, I hear the doomers again. President Trump's not doing enough about illegal immigr.
Really? I lived it. Are you kidding me?
It was priority number one for the administration to lock down the border and make sure illegals left the country.
Now, he's taken it even a step further.
If you're applying for citizenship through the visa, green card process, now a lot of these folks are going to have to go and do it from overseas. OH MY GOSH, THAT HAPPENED. YEAH, that happened again in the context of all the President Trump's massive changes. This may seem like a little thing. It isn't.
It isn't. In President Trump political dog years where he does seven years of work in one, this is how much stuff happens that you miss out on if you don't watch shows like this. You listen to the Doomer shows. Check this out.
There is an enormous change in US immigration policy. Tonight, the Trump administration says any noncitizens in the country who have applied for a green card must leave the country indefinitely, even if here legally and regardless of whether they have a spouse or children. Then they have to wait for their green card application to be processed outside of the country.
>> Folks, please, I'm I'm really I'm begging you as a friend. as a friend.
We've managed to maintain despite all the nonsense and crap an unbelievable friendship with you all out there over years and years of doing this show. I'm just asking you common sense wise like not not to my own because you guys get it, but the people who may pop in and out of the show and fell for the doomerism, just think for yourself. Just go look this stuff up. That stuff happened. The crime rate collapsing happened. The homicide rate happened.
The border being closed happened. ICE deporting people and murderers out of the community happened. President Trump's war on red tape and regulation, even for things like freaking air conditioners, school choice, and other issues happened. His reforming of the immigration process happened. The redistricting efforts where Republicans have come out on top happened. All of this stuff happened.
This happened.
Please, man, just do the the receipts are there. And don't fall for the Kendallian who when Biden's team got busted cold manipulating crime data, he went said, "Oh, they these guys are terrific." And then the minute Trump cleans it up. I don't know. Cash Patel, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
These aren't people who've been taken off the street. Really, Ken? Ask Ken to look up what a again a UFAP warrant is.
Here he was. Ken Silverstein at the Intercept. The CIA's mop-up man. LA Times reporter cleared stories with the agency before publication. Who's that article about from 2014? Kendallian.
So, here's what's happening. You have people inside the FBI. They're still who are hiding who've been bur they they buried themselves like ticks in the FBI.
They go and leak to Kendallian because they weren't able to do in their Joe Biden FBI what we did and take bad guys off the street by expanding our partnership with state, local, and territorial and tribal law enforcement agencies. They just weren't able to do it. You weren't able to produce President Trump's crime rates being low and homicides rates being low. So, what do you do? You go lie to Kend Delaneian, who's more than happy to be your mop-up man.
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Welcoming to the show for the first time. one of my really good friends and uh just the change agent of the highest order in the do DOJ, Judge Janine Piro, US Attorney for Washington DC. Judge, welcome to the show.
>> Good morning. And let me just say first that we all miss you here in Washington.
I personally miss working with you on some of the great cases that we worked on, but uh I'm sure everything is uh everything's fine in your life now that you don't have to live in DC.
>> Yeah, DC. I tell you, it was an interesting change. You know, it brings up a question. I I wasn't going to go, but what's the adjustment been like for you? I mean, I know what it was like for me. Obviously, you're on the most popular show in conservative media, The Five. I mean, just ridiculous ratings.
Uh, you were asked by the president to serve. I mean, I kind of know the story a little bit myself, but what was it like for you to just pick up with your I mean, you got you got your dogs, you got this beautiful house, and just to go down and take over, I would argue the most important US attorney spot in the country. Well, first of all, you know, I think, Dan, that it you reach a point in your life when you say that, you know, who am I? And when the president called, there was no question that if you took that classic yellow pad and you did the pros and the cons, well, the cons were definitely against taking the job, but the pro was something bigger and longer and more um more complete, and that was that this is really who I am. And it brings me back to my root stand because I, you know, you know my background, prosecutor, judge DA, all that. And it's really who I am. And so this United States Attorney's Office is different than any other office in the country. It is the only one where the United States Attorney is a double hatter. And what that means is I am a US attorney handling all kinds of federal cases, but I'm also the local DA handling street crime. And I don't think that there's anywhere more important in the country to handle street crime than in the place that two years ago had the fourth highest murder rate in the country. And so, you know, for all of that, you know, he humming and hawing, the truth is you have to decide who am I? What am I about? What do I want to do in my life?
And this is what I want to do. And as for the adjustment, Dan, Washington is very different. you know, uh we're in it's kind of a you talk about New York City being a concrete jungle. Well, in Washington, it's very I'm in the middle of uh you know, the the the nation's capital. A lot of buildings, a lot of federal buildings, and all I'm looking for is a decent tomato at the end of the night. There's no bodeas in in DC. I don't understand it.
>> But I am It took a while, but I'm happy now. No, I I know you've been uh you know, we had uh you know, many uh an office meeting together and I got to tell you, it was such an honor to work with you. You know, I just want to tell the audience too and get your perspective from the inside. You know, when you came on, you you were such a transformative change agent that what I liked about your take was you said, I don't care how they did it in the past.
And I'll give two examples of things you did, you know, in conjunction with us and your partners over there. you came in and you said, "Listen, um, Benghazi, Bakush, like this guy's been, you know, they've wanted this guy forever. Like, why didn't we get him?" And the answer basically was because we just didn't want to, I guess, like they just didn't want to put in the effort. You said Like, we're going to go get this guy and ex you did and we got him and you know, he's got his right to a trial, everything else, however. But I it's more about process than anything.
And second, I remember sitting in my office after Operation Viper in Memphis and we were sitting there and you looked at me like, "We're going to do the same thing in DC. The boss wants to clean it up." I said, "Let's go for it." And you just went in there and said, "I don't care if we haven't done it in the past and put our feds on the street. We're going to do it now and look at the amazing results." Two incredible things you did.
>> Well, you know, it's almost good to come in and to be somewhat blindfolded in terms of what was done because I know what works. I mean, I did what I did for 33 years. Uh, and uh, it was real clear to me that there was a malaise, that this office was a neglected office. Uh, and Bush in particular, you know, there's one thing, Dan, that I'm going to share with you that I really haven't told anyone. And I don't know if you recall, but in 2012, we were all talking about Benghazi. And unfortunately, uh, you know, the the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens and and the other three, uh, uh, operatives who were there, the CIA, uh, uh, at the CIA at the compound there. The truth is that we fought talking about whether or not it was a peaceful pro uh uh uh uh protest that went arry or whether it was, you know, people just went there to burn down the embassy. And when I got into the office, I said, "Pull the Benghazi file." And so we pulled it and we had drones, Dan. We knew what was going on. And I looked at these drones and it was clear to me, Dan, that there was no peaceful protest.
There was no one who got there and said, you know, we object to the United States being here. These MOS or MFers, they came in with rocket propelled grenades because they knew what they were going to do. And when they couldn't break into the ambassador's residence, they went out and they got fuel to burn him out.
And I remember saying to the prosecutors in the room, Dan, well, the nation and Hillary Clinton, you know, we were all fighting. It was a peaceful protest. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was. No, it wasn't.
We know for a fact that it was not a peaceful protest. The drones made it clear. They came there to tear the place down. And I remember saying to the prosecutors, "Did you know the whole country was going crazy about whether or not this was a peaceful protest or it was just a a brigade that came in to tear us down?" And they said, "Well, yeah." I said, "Well, why didn't you guys say something?" And they w they said, "It's not our job." And I said, "You know what? You're right. It wasn't your job. But now that I'm here, I'm going to make it clear what it was. The truth is they came there to kill people.
There was no question about it. And so at that point I got an indictment for the ring leader Bakush and with you guys with you and Cash we were going to get over there and I can't say where to bring him back and I was at the FTO at the transfer of control and Dan and Cash and I were the first ones on the plane.
I wanted to take look at this guy. But yeah, it's incredible. Unless you go in there and say, "I want this done."
Inertia rules. And I couldn't allow I couldn't allow that. And the other thing is DC street crime, you know it as well as I do, Dan. And it's all about as as as you know, broken windows. I'm taking the lowest crimes and we're going for it. But here's the problem in DC. The problem in DC is that you we can't charge you with a crime if you're under 18. And that means if you're 16 and 17 and you just burglarize or you assault someone or you assault someone with a deadly weapon, I can't prosecute you. I can only prosecute you under what we call Title 16 in DC. If you commit murder, rob one, burglary one, or sexual assault one. Those are the worst crimes and only if you're 16 and 17. Then I can come in. So all of these juveniles who eventually reach the age of 18 and I get my hands on them. They've got a record a mile long because they've been taken to the family court. There's no real consequence. The purpose is rehabilitation. It is not retribution.
It is not punishment. It is not deterrence. It is simply to make sure that these kids get help. And they don't. They go to an ice cream social.
They go to yoga and they're out. And that's when I said no more. And I had a team here and I'm very proud of the team now of of US attorneys. Although we're down still 73 from 150. But the truth is that they were not taught to be the tip of the spear. Most of them in superior court. I had to fight with people to ask for detention, which is bail for us in New York. I had to fight with them. You ask for bail in every case. The guy is charged with an assault with a violent crime. What do you mean? The guy strangled a woman. What do you mean? You know, and they said, "Well, the judges aren't going to give it to us." And Dan, it's a whole changing of the mentality.
And it's going fine here. It's we're much better than we were.
>> And and and folks, you know, Mia may forget because uh you know, I always say like Donald Trump political life is like dog years because he does so much so fast. The last year and a half, right?
Feels like seven to 10 years. You can't believe it was just a year and a half. I mean, everything that's happened's been so transformative, >> but you know, the crime in DC has dropped almost geometrically. And I bring up the broken windows example because you and I are very friendly with Rudy Giuliani. Nobody knows New York State uh law enforcement better than you. I mean, you lived it. Yeah.
>> But the theory of broken windows, which you and I discussed in my office many times, um is the idea that crime is not rampant. Crime is rampant in a small group of people. They commit 80 plus percent of the crime. So if you go and get these people off the street, it drops. And the results you brought forth for the president, who could not have been more supportive of these efforts, by the way. He hates it. Judge, you know, the president's not doing it for politics. He's not running again. And DC wouldn't vote for him anyway. He just hates it. He drives around the streets of DC. He sees a homeless problem in crime. He goes, "Fix it, judge. Fix it now." He could not have been more supportive. You did it. And look at how much the crime rate's dropping. Imagine three years. what it's going to be uh with more of these concerted efforts.
>> Well, you know, the president has made it very clear that, you know, he wants DC safe and he wants it beautiful. And the interesting thing about that, Dan, and you're so right, you and I get it.
It's not just safe, it's beautiful. And beautiful speaks to the broken windows.
It speaks to if you live in an area where there is no respect for property or the quality of life, people just treat themselves and each other differently. So making it beautiful, as soft and benign as that may seem, is very relevant to making it safe. And uh when he came in and he said, "Well, give you whatever you need." And he brought in the federal uh support. And the truth is, you're so right. It's that 20% that are the force multipliers. They are the ones who were committing the violent crime. And unfortunately in DC, you made reference to the fact that he would never win in DC and he didn't. 95% of DC voted for Kla Harris. And that is reflected when now and then we'll get a grand jury. They'll say, "No, we don't want to indict someone for assaulting a cop." Even though the statute is perfectly uh attuned and set for that particular scenario, they'll say, "No, no, no, no true Bill." or you know the classic sandwich case, that's the one that everybody laughs about. Under the statute, that is a crime. And they were like, they're not going to indict and they're not going to convict. And it's all about grand jurors saying things like, is this part of the president's surge? Well, if it is, what's it to you?
Well, they won't indict. And it's really that simple. And so by bringing in our federal partners, whether it's, you know, uh, the marshalss and the FBI, and we've got the park police, the Capitol Police, the Metropolitan Police, and I can't I can't talk about this without giving credit to Mayor Muriel Bowser, who has joined the president and joined us in making sure that DP DC is safe.
And the MPD uh, is a great police department. Sure, they've had trouble trouble, you know, with deflation of numbers and my office did that investigation before anyone else did.
And now when we talk about a reduction of crime 50 60%, it's not just a reduction based on the numbers, it's even more because they had deflated the crime numbers, meaning that the real crime numbers were actually higher. And so the drop in crime is even more significant because there were problems within the department where they were trying to uh uh lower uh crime. Now let me give you an example. So if you go to a um if there's a robbery for example in a CVS or a drugstore, the police would come and they'd take a report and then after a while they'd say, you know what, we're going to come in once a month. You give us the reports of how many robberies you had. So then they would file it as one robbery instead of 22 robberies that month, you know. So the drop in crime that President Trump doesn't get enough credit for is even more significant. And so I think the word on the street now is that you they're going to prosecute you and they're going to fight. And I tell my prosecutors every day, you're the tip of the spear. You go into that courtroom and you go into that courthouse, you are representing the person who didn't want to be here in the first place. It's the criminal who made the decision to victimize another human being. And we're there irrespective. If the judge push back, if the jury pushed back pushes back, that's not your problem. I'm your problem. And if you don't make sure you fight with the with all of your with vigor and with everything that we've got, then you don't need to be in this office. So, uh, we have turned things around and I'm very proud of it.
>> You know, Judge, that's such a critical point you just brought up that this president is not about or fudging the numbers. Like, if this president wanted to fudge the numbers, he would not have had you look into it because looking into the crime manipulation scandal in DC, like you just said, would by simple mathematics make the problem worse. Not because the problem is worse, but just because the math was corrected. So he said fix it anyway and we're still gonna reduce the crime rate. So I just want to tell the like what what the judge said there is really important. You brought something up before too I wanted to hit on and again for the audience this is not any kind of excuse but just an explanation because we were dealing with the same thing at the FBI when the president uh swears in obviously is 47. Obviously you and I met and ran into some people who just weren't having it. They were there for politics. I'm not talking about all of them, but a good number of people were there because of politics. They didn't swear allegiance to the Constitution. They swore allegiance to the Democrat party. A lot of them left.
Some of them were fired. In our case, it was about 10% of the workforce. But in the DOJ and the FBI, but you in particular, it's just not easy to bring people on board. You got to make sure you get, you know, people who want to adhere to the Constitution. Uh, you know, people who are, they have to be obviously qualified attorneys. So, you're getting there. But I guess the gist of the question is you're dealing with some heavy personnel turnover and basically a shortage right now. US attorneys and still getting the job done.
>> You know, it it's so true. I mean, there are people who have been here, Dan, that you know, they've watched us come and go and they have absolutely no concern about what the priorities are for a particular administration. Well, that's very different uh than the way I see things. And what I've been able to do is I have been able to recognize who is competent, who is essential, who has institutional knowledge that I need to keep. But make no mistake, if your agenda is not aligned with mine, you're not going to be here. I'm not one of those people who came in and said, "Everybody goes." It doesn't work that way. Because DC, this office in particular, has the highest turnover nationally, even before we got here.
It's just the nature of, you know, the way people work here. And if you look at anyone's resume, Dan, it's very interesting. They're in a position for a year or two and then they jump to another agency or they jump to a law firm or they go private, then they go public. In New York, it's like if you're not with a firm for four or five years, what's wrong? You couldn't cut it. It's different here. But what I want these people here to understand and they do now and I think we've got if we turn the ship around a a great deal is that if if you want to fight the fight and if you want to make sure that we are doing what we're supposed to be doing irrespective of politics then you're on my team because law and order isn't about politics. You either fight crime and believe in it or you don't. If you don't, I don't need you. And if you're incompetent, lazy, or think you need more time off than you get, I don't need you. If you think you need to work at home, I don't need you. I need you in the office. And that's one of the things that I had the biggest problem with. But now, there's no question everybody gets it. Everybody's here. Dan, people would work two weeks and get a day off for free. Wait a minute. If you work two weeks, that means every month you get two days off in addition to sick, in addition to vacation, paternity, maternity. We've got mental health leave. We got every freaking time to leave. The only thing we don't have is dog bereavement leave. Okay? Everybody's on leave. Everybody's at the doctors.
Everybody. And then I I got to tell you, my favorite is there was it was going to be windy one day. Maine justice sends out an email saying, "Don't come in the next day. It's going to be windy." Are you kidding me? You get your ass in THE OFFICE AND I'LL TELL you if you don't need to be here. You know, it's just a different mentality. Dan, >> well, I listen, I've known you outside of the space, inside of the government space. You've never changed a bit. I I can tell you folks, sitting in that big old deputy director conference room.
Cash has a better office, but I had a better conference room. Right.
>> You have a great conference room.
>> Oh, wasn't it? And you know, the judge and I be sitting there with this crew of attorneys and FBI and the judges, folks, I'm telling you, she is absolutely no different. If you think this is a shtick, you don't know Judge Shannine.
Like, it's not. I had FBI people in the room like, "Oh she really is that same person we saw in the five. Go get her."
>> You know, I remember Dan when we were in that in that room of one case that we solved and you were you were the force behind it and that's a pipe bomber. I'll never forget. We went in there, we sat with all the FBI agents. They had been working on it for a long time. Uh, and you were like, "But what about this and what about that?" And you and I are like, "What about this? What about that?" You know, we may not have worked there, but we still had common sense.
And you know what? I got to tell you, uh, Darren Cox, Washington field office.
I work with him every day. I love the guy. I love the guy. you know, it's a little bumpy, but now we're in a situation where we talk at least once a day and uh it is a it's a phenomenal place once you get all of everybody on the same page. There's incredible resources intelligence here and uh but I think I think your listeners and your viewers should know that that pipe bomber wouldn't have happened without you. There's no question about it. You you were like the thorn in your side.
You weren't leaving until that one was >> I know. I drove them nuts. And those guys I was like, "No, not good enough."
Nope. Nope. Yeah. Darren Darren got it from day one. Like he understood like you're getting. Matter of fact, I remember >> you know when we got the uh a suspect in the case. I remember I I was I was sitting down and I get a call and whenever you know just like you when you get a call on your work phone it's it was almost never good. Like it was always a problem. No one's calling you to say, "Hey, what'd you have for breakfast? More scrambled eggs." So, it was Darren and I was like, "H, what happened, Darren?" He goes, "You sitting down?" I go, "Oh, shit."
>> Yeah. I hate it when he goes, "I'm pretty sure we got a suspect in the I was like, you're kidding." And he's like, "No, remember that thing we did?"
I said, "Yeah." And I said, "All right, good, man." You know, we you and I know you got to run, but last question here, but you know, you and I started it was kind of trial by fire. There was no like uh intern period. I think it was like week one those two diplomats were shot in Israel. We get woken up at one two in the morning. You and I are on the streets at the crime scene and it was I mean it was just like there was no stopping.
>> Horrible.
>> Yeah. It was horrible.
>> It's horrible, Dan. And the truth is that uh we just announced we're seeking the death penalty against Elias Rodriguez for the cold-blooded murder of Yuron Lashinski uh and uh Karen Mgrim.
Uh, the truth is that watching their bodies being taken off the street, put in body bags on a rainy cold night in DC. Bad stuff. We're going to end this.
We're going to end this.
>> I mean, you we had just I was only there a couple months. I think you That was like week one and I thought >> Yeah, it was the first week.
>> The first night they woke me up. They were slamming them. I can't I have >> I remember you came in. You were you you you were sleeping tell >> because they could I Yeah. They were knocking on the door and I can't hear anything and I live a little bit away from the scene. So you were there way before.
>> Sarah Mgram, by the way. Sarah Mgram.
Sorry. Yeah.
>> Sarah Mgrim, you're on Lashinsky.
>> Yeah.
>> So, one last question. The 250th obviously no specific threat that we know of. Everything's being monitored, but the 250th uh you're the US attorney for DC. A lot of people going to be in DC. I'd imagine you got your office on uh you know with the antenna up and and going for this.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's no question, Dan, and we've seen it before. People cross the country and come to DC to commit political violence. They see DC as the place where they can express their political violence, whether it's Lackenwall and the shooting of the National Guardsman or the White House correspondents dinner, Cole Allen. Uh we're going to see more of that shooting of uh or of of of uh Secret Service. Uh but we are we are in high alert until the 4th. Uh I believe there's going to be an infusion of even more National Guard. Uh if we don't make this nation's capital safe, then you know, woe is the United States. And we're going to do everything we can and we continue to do everything we can to make sure that people can come here, enjoy this country. It is a beautiful country. The nation's capital, all the monuments, I mean, uh, and it's really as simple as making sure that law and order is enforced in a way where people know it, they understand it. You're going to get the death penalty. We're going for the jugular, you commit a crime here, you're going to pay for it. It's that simple.
>> You know, judge, uh, I had really high expectations when you got the appointment. I knew who you were. I'm like, this is going to be amazing. And you so far surpassed them. I mean, you were such a nuts andbolts, like go get them kind of no like that answer's not good enough kind of person.
And to watch you in action was a distinct pleasure. So, such an honor to have you on your show. Of course, you're welcome back anytime. Thanks for >> Dan. We love you. Thank you so much.
Really, and you know what, God bless this great country and keep telling the truth.
>> Indeed. Amen. You got it. Thanks, Judge.
Judge Janine Piro, folks, she is um they say a go-getter. You know, you hear that about a lot of people. They're just being nice. I'm not just being nice because she doesn't care about nice. She cares about results. I never forget sitting in meetings with her and like, "Nah, that answer's not good enough.
Figure it out." Nope. Nope. Get it. Go get it. Give me a better answer. She was great. Thanks so much for tuning in today. Really appreciate it. Got Haley coming up at noon. rumble.com/haley.
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