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>> You're listening to Canary Crime News Talk. Today is May 27th, 2026 and we are live to tape on episode 944 and today Antichrist extremism and signing on from off the grid razledazzle. I'm your best buddy Basil and you are not crazy. And my name is Gon's at face like the sun, director of the age of deceit films and author of prophecy without panic. Recovering the patterns behind Bible prophecy, your favorite Asian provocator for Christ live to tape from the metaverse to bring you the best news which is the gospel message of Jesus Christ while reporting the egregious with a well-rounded biblically grounded take on world events. It is Wednesday.
>> It is Wednesday, my dudes.
It is World Marketing Day.
>> Oh, >> for for the magicians out there.
>> Uh it is also there's there's multiple things going on.
>> World Otter Day. So, you know, make your otter noises.
>> Love the otter.
>> And uh I believe the only other thing for today uh nothing to fear day.
>> Okay.
>> So, sure.
>> Do not fear. And I think that's on point with our theme of >> all this fear everywhere in the world going on >> to the Bible which says 365 times throughout the Bible do not fear.
That's one for every day. Every day is do not fear a day. Especially here >> I look that up. That's that's a that depends on the translation. But yeah, it's a nice >> surprise surprise. The Bible saying something depends on translation. Woo!
Woo!
What a what a what a revelation. Um, World Marketing Day. That's kind of funny because as we know, all of these days are due to marketing. Yeah, every day is World Market Day that has like a special day. It's it's all a marketing thing, you know. These are not biblical holidays. World Marketing Day. So, I'm glad that uh yeah, the marketeteers who have named every day some sort of holiday uh got their own day. You know, I I'd be curious to see the history of that. Maybe they started with World Marketing Day and then branched out from there. But it's good to know, you know, these ding-dang marketers finally getting the uh getting the the credit they deserve for creating conjuring reality around us at all times. Thank you, marketers.
>> They did release the final installment of the disclosure, the Steven Spielberg disclosure movie trailer.
>> Did you Did you catch that this morning?
>> No, I didn't see it. Is it is they >> the marketers do it? Did they do a good job?
>> Yes, the marketers were on top of it.
Yeah. It implies that the alien grays are shape shifters >> cuz they have this deer that's walking around. I think they got a little fox too u and a and a raccoon as well. It's almost like uh the personhood of animals encoded into the alien conversation. But what everyone is pointing out is of course they got the psychic sort of, you know, thing going on with the mind control thing. But at the end of this trailer, they do this zoom into the deer and it does this like pan around the deer's head and it turns into a gray >> alien. Of course, >> imply that, you know, the gray alien is a shape shifter that walks around like a a stag, you know.
>> Yeah, maybe a shape shifter. You know, another thing that I'd kind of come in contact with recently, well, of course, we've come in contact with this for for years and years, this idea, but it was one that I was recently thinking about, you know, in the study of consciousness, which is really big nowadays, especially with AI and psychedelics, you know, the study what exactly is consciousness.
there's this kind of long-standing theory uh when they try to figure out, you know, what is the connection between the consciousness realm or you might say the spiritual realm and the physical realm, right? Where exactly do those things sort of uh interact with one another? And the theory is that, you know, the brain, whether it's a human brain or perhaps even animal brains, are like the biological antenna that allow for things beyond the veil to sort of have a a a suit, right? Or have a way to interact with the physical world.
>> So, yeah, it's the conduit. We we are the iPhone. We're the iPhone to the internet or something.
>> Right. Right. You know, and of course, that makes a lot of sense. Well, I don't know. I'm not I'm not giving credence to the theory but you know when you talk about it in terms of humans like okay you know you've got an internal spirit how does it interact with the material world the human brain is very special and big and so it's able to you know be a a conduit for our souls or our spirits to operate the body or whatever. But you know lots of things have brains brains of various sizes. Animals got brains.
The question is, okay, well, who gets to use the animal brains? You know, what sort of otherworldly interdimensional uh creature gets to connect to the animal brains? And like, are they bummed about it, right? Maybe they log in to their uh material realm uh you know Nintendo box or something and instead of getting put into a human brain where they're like woo I can do all sorts of human stuff they log in and they're in a cat brain you know and they're very limited and uh they can't drive or get a job or anything. Maybe that's a good thing. And so you know what kind of lesser being is relegated to logging on to the the the lesser animal brain. So whether or not I I have not watched the trailer so I will defer to you but you know it could be a shape shifter thing which of course there's a lot of shape-shifting in ufology. Uh or it could be, you know, these aliens are limited to logging into the lesser animal brains, >> the deer brains, the things like that sort of uh because of course long-standing theory or or or uh I guess concept especially from our buddy La Marzulli that uh you know the grays, the aliens could be serving as more of like a biological meat suit than the the physical aliens themselves.
Uh, so I don't know. This this trailer shows a gray uh, which is, you know, perhaps supposed to be their their meat suit that they can log into in the material realm. Uh, but treating the gray as the alien itself, logging into the deer brain, I don't know, man. We're gonna we'll we'll find out. was not expecting to get this deep into exposure today. This >> the sigh the sigh side of things has been towards the bottom of the rabbit hole when it comes to the topic of UFOs and alien abduction and all that stuff for a long time. So I think bringing those topics to the forefront >> for some kind of predictive programming agenda to get everybody up to speed on the >> the theory of everything that connects consciousness, mind, soul, spirit with aliens and all that. I think that's u you know part of the job of people like Stephen Spielberg you know what he's get paid the big bucks to do it you know.
So, >> I saw as you were scrolling through this trailer, it showed the Steven Spielberg giving his little interview thing and there was uh some clips of this interview going around. I think he was maybe it wasn't this interview, but it was him I think talking to Steven Coar, which uh sadly or celebratorily is no longer on the air. um talking about how you know back when he made third encounters he was thinking wouldn't it be great if all this was >> what was it fourth encounters or third encounters I forget third encounters doesn't matter though but yeah I think it was third encounters he was saying like oh back when I made that I was thinking wouldn't it be great if this was true and everybody could get it and now he's saying oh with this one I'm so happy that now everybody can know that it's True. I'm so happy. Like he's giving this implication that he's like, "Yeah, I made this movie as disclosure.
Here you go. You're welcome."
>> Yeah. Well, that's no surprise there, but keep an eye on this.
>> Yeah. And and I still I I it still bothers me that a lot of this I believe is a part of the of course there's multiple moving parts here, but I think part of it is covering up human and animal genetic experiments over the last 100 years. And you know creating speaking of meat suits creating those meat suits for you know maybe those entities that are seeking embodiment in a sense. So >> yeah, speaking of which, that brings us into our first story here, Gans, which again is just a wonderful, you know, how excited we are and how wonderful it is.
Perhaps this is sarcasm. Who knows? Who knows that uh the mainstream media has now taken up the job uh of dispensing kind of the most fringe crazy ideas uh that have come out of the podcasting realm for well in most people's awareness the past couple years. But of course here in the Canarium these are things we've been talking about for uh over a decade now. This is coming from the New York Post so you know it's good.
says whistleblower claims CIA used DNA data from Ancestry and 23 and me customers in search for aliens.
We told you so DNA >> were made by the aliens. And you know, the 23 and me story is uh one of the ones that's very fun for us because of course our interest in DNA and 23 and me and stuff like that going back all the way to when 23 and me was just a mere uh publicity release, you know, was just a was just a mere uh uh PR announcement that this company was starting out. And immediately it became clear to us, oh that's pretty interesting in the context of, you know, Genesis 6, the Nephilim interbreeding, uh, you know, the sons of God coming down, uh, copulating with the daughters of men, the Nephilim who were there then and also afterwards.
Something smells fishy with this 23 and me thing. I don't trust it and I recommend nobody else trusts it. Of course, they followed the exact plan that we laid out back in the day and sold all of that genetic data to China.
But that's not the that's not even the most fun part about it. New York Post here is reporting, "Does the CIA have its own men in black?
Does it go Does the CIA have its own men in black?" Goodness gracious.
Apparently, the government isn't disclosing everything it knows about UFOs. Huh. A whistleblower has accused the CIA of attempting to use sites like 23 andMe and ancestry.com to uncover people with extraterrestrial DNA in their makeup. Quote, "The CIA wants to hunt them down," said philosopher and novelist. Okay. Jason Reza Georgiani, Ph.D., while discussing the so-called top secret government program in an episode of the podcast American Alchemy.
>> I'm going to haunt you.
>> Oh, that's hunt. Sorry, I supposed to be hunt. Uh, we need Joe Biden for that one. Where's Joe Biden hunting us down?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Go. We will hunt you down and make you pay.
>> Make you pay. Pay us your DNA. pay us your genetic money.
>> Love it that we're living in the world that uh podcast episodes are now normal pieces of news to disclose CIA government pro uh programs. Georgiani claimed that he was alerted to this bug hunting initiative. interesting considering DNA, you know, mixed human beings, alien hybrids as bug hunting initiative by Army veteran Lynn Buchanan, who claims he was a psychic spy with the CIA's remote viewing program, which investigated whether individuals could use extrensory perception to conduct a recon on distant objects, events, or people. A lot about this remote viewing lately. Uh, Georgiani and Buchanan had informed him, sorry, Georgiani said Buchanan had informed him that former CIA analyst and UAP specialist Christopher Kit Green had devised a backdoor way of accessing 23 and me and Ancestry, uber popular sites that break down users' family trees to screen users for specific quote genetic varants linked to nonhuman beings. green was I love how they put that as if that was the purpose of 23 and me from the very beginning was to screen users for genetic varants linked to non-human beings which I would not be surprised you know so many of these companies these tech companies even Facebook uh you know their secret history comes from uh you know DARPA secret government programs that then set up these technologies as commercial companies a to allow them to get through a lot of the limits that government agencies, you know, have imposed upon them by say the constitution.
Um that but then become like the most important platforms and tech to create the world around us all secretly, you know, being a government program from the beginning. Uh 23 and me ancestry notably suspect when it comes to that. Uh Green was notably part of the remote viewing program in the 1970s, but left the intelligence agency long before the founding of the DNA detective sites.
Buchanan reportedly learned of this so-called campaign after being approached at a diner by three individuals claiming to be Nordics, tall, blue-eyed, blonde visitors from beyond uh that are said to be living covertly among us. quote, "They live in like small towns in the Colorado Rockies and they pass because they look like tall Scandinavian people." Georgiani remarked of Buchanan's theory. You know, there's a hint of racism in here with these Nordic aliens. Where's Where's the social warriors?
>> I was going to bring up some different things. I'll do that in a minute regarding First Enoch 106 with this topic. But yeah, I did notice that some people were reacting to this story as a way to say they're trying to round up the whites.
>> It's time. This is it. This is the moment. You know, all those KKK groups we're talking about is the roundup of the whites. They're going to >> quarantine all of us and try to take us out. So there is a uh yes a strong uh racial reaction from uh a certain >> going to be like uh World War II internment camps for the Japanese, you know, >> right?
see a a series of unfolding events from uh UFO disclosure through disclosure day uh to, you know, the disclosure of the Nordics, the tall whites, and then having to save humanity by rounding up all these good-looking Nordic people and putting them. It would do they have to be taller than a certain height. But it's also think about if that's kind of the meta scop you know you make you call the the people the foreigners coming into our land illegally as aliens or illegally we call them aliens but that's the great switcheroo right it's we want to the real aliens are the ones that founded the country altogether and they whatever >> could be dangerous putting so many goodlooking people in one place you know you just throw them all into a camp. I don't know. It' be an interesting thing.
Despite President Donald Trump releasing hundreds of formerly classified files on UFOs and the hunt for alien life, the Pentagon has insisted there's no evidence of extraterrestrial existence.
The Daily Mail reported Buchanan added that the trio had requested his help in avoiding detection by the CIA. this alien race had allegedly traveled to our planet via an underground railroad of sorts. Again, references to, you know, racially charged ideas, the uh the social justice, uh you know, you got to save the minorities. Are are these Nordics? Are they minorities where they come from? What's going on here? Uh, Underground Railroad, of course, a direct connection to uh the United States sort of history of slavery. Uh, what was that gal's name who did that?
The the Underground Railroad. Oh, no.
Trouble. The Underground Railroad. Uh, the the the former slave woman who helped uh a bunch of slaves get from the >> uh I'm I'm blanking on the name. It's I'm looking at the spelling in my brain, but Harriet Tubman. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Jack.
>> All right, we got we got Alien Tubman here.
>> This alien race had allegedly traveled to our planet via an underground railroad of sorts so they could escape their tyrannical government.
These aliens begin uh sorry, these alien beings supposedly procreated with humans and birth the line of intergalactic mixed race children with the goal of having their future generations grow up in a free society. See, the Nephilim are just the offspring of this uh you know endangered race of aliens who are just looking for freedom gods. I I can't help but see the the the again sort of this reversing like a bait and switch of the narrative.
You know that for the last 20 years it's been ah the white people they just conquer everything and they take over and they interbreed with them and all this uh and all >> what's that >> you know who would agree with this would be like the uh black Israel uh sorry black Israelites >> uh that you know white people are dangerous and stole everything and didn't invent anything and they're just sort of like illegal aliens. And black people were, you know, originally uh what was it? But black people were native to North America. they were.
That's that's one of my favorite parts of kind of the black Israel uh black Hebrew Israelite thing was that um the even the very idea that uh Africans were stolen from Africa and brought to America to be slaves is like white man's history, right? because they don't want people to know that uh Native Americans were actually black.
>> We're seeing some we're seeing some fun with the narrative here.
>> It it starting to sound like the the Jewish diaspora here also, you know, they they don't have a home. They're escaping a tyrannical government. you know, they startling >> whether or not you know the you know what whatever degree of this you know aligns with truth whether it's yes some sort of uh on planet diaspora or alien refugee program or the Nephilim, you know, you can see this this other angle of the narrative to >> either, you know, continue to confuse people or give a um a new relevant explanation to the disclosure narrative.
Who knows? Is it?
>> Yeah. It's almost like it's it's assisting everybody to to take all the political hotbed topics of today and just elevate it to the to the alien convers like the true extraterrestrial conversation >> uh in a way that everyone can relate.
You know, everyone can relate with >> escaping a tyrannical government and you know, trying to preserve life and all the just freedom for their offspring.
>> It's the foundation of America, right?
It's the original American spirit. So even in the patri like the most I would say straightforward stereotypical sort of patriotic understanding of what makes America America, you know, these tall white Nordic aliens came to America for freedom. You know, >> freedom.
>> Freedom. They didn't even go to Norway.
You know, they're the Nordics. They didn't even go to socialist Sweden or Norway. They said, "No, we're going to America, baby." Um, okay. Continuing.
These uh these alien beings supposedly procreated with humans and birthe a line of intergalactic mixed race children with the goal of having their future generations grow up in a free society.
quote, "They said,"Look, our children, especially our grandchildren, have no idea where they're from," said Georgiani while describing his sources as so-called close encounter. Quote, "We tell them stories about how like their grandparents are from Sweden or whatever and they don't know." He added, quote, "We just want them to have lives of peace and liberty here in America."
Yeah, that's, you know, that's kind of interesting and a very like you couldn't tell this story in any other country, right? And interestingly enough, we're coming up on the 250th anniversary. Uh, Fourth of July, big deal. Going to be parad UFC fights on the the front lawn of the White House. It's it's a big deal.
>> Yeah. And so, you know, uh, Trump has been laying down the narrative for 2026 in the 250th anniversary ever since he started his second campaign. I think he even talked about it in his first campaign. So, like this narrative has been laid down from the very top. And now even this UFO disclosure, the idea that aliens came down or Nephilim or whatever, they didn't go anywhere else.
They went to America because America is free. And this, you know, it's kind of, you know, there's a little piece of this that's kind of like a little wonky because they tell the story here like, no, these Nephilim children, these Nordic, you know, offspring, >> they don't even know, you know, they've they've kept it secret from them. Their grandfathers uh kept it secret. Just say, "Oh, yeah, no, we're just from Sweden. We're just from Norway." Which is a little itchy for me because that's what my grandpa told me. My grandpa says, you know, they were from Norway and my grandma's from Sweden. And you know, you ask about his my grandpa's dad, which would have been my greatgrpa. Uh, and he got a little cy. You said, "Oh, he's he's a bad guy.
He left early. We don't know anything about him."
>> You got to think outside the cage. Got to think outside. So, wait. If that's the case, then am I am I if I'm like assisting you into having rights and stuff? Is Gon's Tubman? Is that what's happening now?
>> That's right. Gonz the >> the Nephilim freedom fighter.
>> Nephilim freedom warrior.
>> Okay, continue.
>> We just want them to have lives of peace and liberty in America. Thank you very much, Grandpa.
>> What is this picture? Why? Why? What is this?
>> I don't know. Oh, it says the bees travel to Earth to free oppression to their despotic home planet. Yeah, >> this is the tall Nordics. Why is Okay.
>> CGI bald woman wearing a skintight leotard. Yeah, it doesn't seem relevant.
>> It's like, hey, they have blonde hair and they're tall and they're like, "Check out this bald lady.
>> This bald weirdo." Right. In a 2023 appearance on the Through a Glass Darkly podcast. Man, one of these days, guns.
One of these days, our podcast is going to be named in a New York Post article.
The retired Army sergeant said that on the pie chart listing all the ethnicities he's talking about on your 23 andMe document, African-American, German, etc., there's a wedge called other, which means unknown, unidentifiable.
>> From what I found out, there are government people who are looking into that wedge. Buchanan cautioned.
Buchanan's not the first person to warn of these so-called human alien hybrids.
In a controversial study this past fall, okay, stud. We got a study. Geneticist Dr. Max Rumpel asserted that aliens might have abducted us and inserted genes into human DNA with the fallout affecting potentially millions of people. Yeah. Well, welcome to the welcome to the weird side, Dr. Mac.
>> Welcome to the conversation, I suppose.
Although he said that this intergalactic DNA infusion is not necessarily a bad thing. Gans, >> what?
>> This is where we go, right? This is where the narrative must go. This is what disclosure is all about. This is what the great deception is all about.
This is everything. Whether it's aliens, Nephilim, whatever he said. Although that this is uh that although he said that this intergalactic DNA infusion is not necessarily a bad thing. Okay, the Nephilim are the good guys. Quote, we need to consider how much alien hybridization is healthy for the planet and which alien races we might give priority, said Rumpel.
This is it's like Trump talking about like, hey, we love, you know, we love immigrants. Immigrants are important, you know, but we need more Norwegian immigrants. We need more South African white immigrants. Okay? We're not against >> those insecttoids. We don't like them.
They're mean.
>> The Nordics, they're beautiful.
>> Those insecttoids that come from poop hole planets, you know, we want nothing to do with them. We need those Nordics.
Okay, there you go.
>> Beautiful Nordics. How Genesis 6 is this? Like Remel, are did you not read Genesis 6?
>> You know, it's it's it's almost like here, take our take our human fallen DNA and help us with your upgraded alien DNA. I mean, it's exactly the crazy thesis that we touched on, you know, age of deceit and all that stuff 15 years ago is this idea that the aliens would provide some assistance at the genetic level and that might >> uh have something to do the beast or something. Yeah, >> it mirrors the sort of woke >> social justice >> conversation almost perfectly because of course >> for many years uh on sort of the the woke side they say look in 50 years white people won't even exist you know there will be much interbreeding everybody is going to be mixed race and you know they put together the like CGI thing where they're like soon all the humans will look like this and it's kind a mixed race thing with, you know, whatever. They're going to be taller or shorter or whatever that everybody will look like.
>> They're all going to be gray.
>> Isn't this diversity wonderful? And so it's basically that exact narrative just backwards. Like, isn't it going to be great that we're going to have more alien Nordic tall white handsome DNA?
this healthy for the planet. You know, even calling it healthy for the planet has this sort of like, you know, climate change kind of pro-ecology aspect to it. This interbreeding is going to be good for uh not just humans, but for the planet as a whole.
>> We were warned.
>> The race wars.
>> Race wars.
>> Race war.
>> I've warned you and warned you and warned you.
>> You know, this this is definitely a Nephilim update now.
>> Nephilim update. Never.
>> And I do want to mention >> the Did you have something else? That's >> Well, I was just going to make a comment on the race war thing because of course we've been seeing the left kind of promote race wars for for a few years recently. But you go all the way back to Genesis 6 and the Watchers and the the you know the Nephilim, >> you know, we t we've been talking about for a decade and a half >> the the biblical supernatural ongoing story of humanity is a version of race wars, right? It is.
>> It is. Yeah. The seed wars. Yeah. The seed wars is the term we use more. But uh you know, you try to explain all the crazy violence and genocide and stuff in the Old Testament and it doesn't make any sense unless you think of it in the Genesis 6 narrative where it wasn't just people being mean to each other that God flooded the earth, but that the the image had been corrupted. The that original creation had been sort of defiled by this supernatural breeding program called the you know, called Genesis 6. Yeah. Yep. It's it all checks out. And just to bring the Nordic angle to this is very fascinating to me because there are some extra biblical texts, namely the first book of Enoch in chapter 106. Basil, >> you may have heard of this before. Uh let me read some of it here. As uh after some days, my son Methuselah found a wife for his son Lamech and she became pregnant and gave birth to a son. He said to him, "Here I am, my son. Why have you come to me?" His body was white like snow >> and red like a blooming nose. The hair on his head, >> blooming nose, blooming rose.
>> Oh, sorry. Blooming rose. Did I say nose? Rose. The hair on his head and his long curls were white like wool.
>> Oo.
>> And his eyes were beautiful. When he opened his eyes, he lit the whole house like the sun, and the house shone brightly. Then he rose up in the hands of the midwife, opened his mouth, and spoke with the Lord of righteousness.
This is the account of the birth of Noah and >> Oh, interesting.
>> Yeah. So there is a segment of people and especially coming from the ancient near east view the second temple Jewish tradition Noah was born to Lamech uh in this sort of some people will translate or kind of uh infer that oh he's he was like a white hair you know like a white-haired lightkinned baby and to the point where Lamech feared that one of the watchers had made Noah, you know, he was kind of like skeptical of that's sort of the the Jewish second temple Jewish tradition where it was like, yeah, Lamech was was concerned that his wife had relations with the watchers and that's why the baby came out so white and glowing and all this kind of stuff. And >> so the and the context in the second temple Jewish literature here is not so much that the uh it's not like a race thing necessarily, but it's more of the the supernatural imagery going on, you know. So it's it's it's very fascinating. I again I I don't think we need to sit on and dwell on the translations here, but just to get people aware of what's out there and especially with Enoch, you know, again, uh people like Dr. Michael Heiser emphasized chapters 6- 16 of First Enoch specifically because they uh are spec, you know, directly related to many of the biblical accounts uh concerning Genesis 6 and beyond. Um, but when you go past that, you start getting into some different things that are a little bit more under the realm of tradition.
And of course, second Enoch, third Enoch is much much later. Uh, but this uh what gets mixed up though is, and I've heard like newagy types take this story and recount it or retell it to say Noah was light-skinned, blondhaired, blue-eyed.
>> Doesn't really say that, but that's sort of what they take from it. And that's where some of the Nordic conversation gets interjected into the Genesis 6 account. And uh I believe this was also part of the conversation when it came to some of Hitler's >> um you know sort of Uber Mench dreams and stuff too. So um it's not and and by the way this is all infused into one of my favorite animes growing up which is Dragon Ball. I mean hello this this Asian looking guy is fired. He's a Saiyan. He's an alien technically. He he powers up and his hair turns blonde and his eyes turn green and stuff. So, you know, it's sort of been part of this culture of uh supernaturalism associated with the color of your hair and your eyes and stuff. So, >> it's this is a great reason why, you know, of course, we've seen Anapino Luna and a lot of mainstream government people say read the book of Enoch, you know, of course, referring specifically to the Watchers and that kind of narrative. But you know, I have not do into this precise thing that you're talking about here, but if the implication was that Noah was of this watcher, like was it that Noah was kind of part of the So that he was not part of >> he was not. So this was Lamech's concern that that his wife had relations with the watchers. But the the theology that's supposed to be there is that no this is not a baby of a watcher. This is your son Lamech. But all you know the the difference in appearance is because he is Noah is special in the story of God that he he's just different looking because he is going to be the one that is you know saved out of the flood and whatever. It's not because he's actually the son of a watcher. So that that's kind of where the the story goes.
>> They were fe they the father Lamech feared that he looked different.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. So again, you know, when it's mythology and and it's a retelling of things, it's it makes it interesting.
But there especially back then, they were always making a theological point.
And so yeah, the theological point was that no, he is still your son. uh he's only this is actually a statement against the watchers in a sense. So >> interesting.
>> Very interesting. Yeah. There's another another reason why, you know, it's so weird when the government tells you to read the book of Enoch and there are, >> you know, these these little subtleties that you could really, if you're not careful and if you're not already rooted in the word of God, like if you're not coming at Enoch already rooted in biblical cannon and knowledgeable about it, that you could really kind of, you know, there's a lot of potential to kind of get a little sideways on things if you're not sure >> coming from a solid biblical uh foundation there. Interesting.
>> I like that New York Post has weird but true as their little tag for stories like this. Weird but true.
>> I'm glad it's true. Like what part of this is true? I mean, and I I guess the whistleblower saying it is true, but you know, it implies that alien DNA is true.
And you know, it gets into some hairy territory.
fully prove that.
>> Such a good example of how like maddening it is to do what we do. Guns.
>> Oh my gosh. Yeah. To actually think about what's being presented. Oh, how dare How dare we actually >> I know what's driving me nuts is Abraham in the chat. So, wait, you all think God is white skinned?
>> What? What are you talking? Doesn't matter. Okay, I'm not getting sidelined.
I'm not getting sucked into this. That's great. I I appreciate that. I appreciate this.
>> Let's do it again. You know, people come at the show with whatever their own thing is and that'll really uh color what they perceive going on.
>> I miss the days of the, you know, of those comments, those heated comments, you know. Probably a good sign. It's probably a good sign.
>> I can't tell if that, you know, it might just be somebody trolling. Might just >> Yeah, that's true. Assume it's a troll.
Okay. Uh All right. Are you good on this? We're good to keep >> Let's move on.
>> All right. All right, we're going to take a quick second and thank some producers because we are on a value for value model here folks. You'll notice no advertisements, no platform partnerships, no sponsorships, no nothing. And that's because uh as we know this world around us even though it's worldwide marketing day and we're all here to celebrate marketers understanding uh the difference of perception and truth and the control of the narrative being wielded not just by those in places of power or under influence of elites but also those who uh simply follow the simple incentives laid out by them, by those who have crafted the system, the beast system that we live in. and to participate in the advertising model which not only has its literal and spiritual roots in uh government propaganda through Edward Bernay and social engineering through his uh of course his nephew one of the founders of Netflix uh which going all the way back to Sigman Freud and his uh wacky tale and the weaponization of his ideas of psychoanalysis advertising is often the water in which we as the fishies swim. We don't even notice that uh the advertising model is a product of a system that wishes not only to control our perception, control uh the narratives available to us uh but also monetize the most precious resource that we have and that is our time, our consciousness, everything like that. We do not participate in the marketing model, the advertising model for a lot of reasons. But also included in that is the I would say supernatural recognition that the consciousness, the trust, the time that you give us is something invaluable and to turn around and sell that for our own personal gain uh seems like a grave error especially in uh bending the knee to the incentive structure that could ultimately control what we do talk about, what we don't talk about, etc., etc. So instead, it's very simple. If you get any value from what you get here on the show, you are encouraged, perhaps even implored to consider occasionally putting some value back in because it's the only way that it happens. Okay? There's no corporation who's going to come and save the show.
We only exist because of our producers and the producers are you. Now, you can produce the show in lots of ways, lots of ways to bring value back into the system here. Uh you can do it with your time, your talent, or your treasure. Uh, if you got time to help us out with processes, with projects, with back-end stuff, uh, if you're a an artist or a musician, you can create art, you can create music. Uh, go to canarycry.art to upload it there. And if all else fails, if the Lord's blessed you with enough, your daily bread for today, uh, and he calls you to, uh, participate in keeping us alive financially, that's very important. Uh and so we always take time to thank our producers who have uh put some value back in because we couldn't do without them. The executive producers, these are people who come in and support any individual episode like this with a hundred bucks or more. So we want to thank them here first. But of course before that, a big old shout out to all each and every one of our monthly producers who go in, sign up, and say, "You know what? This is worth a buck a month or five bucks a month or whatever, 3333, whatever uh God calls you." Big shout out to the monthly producers.
>> Um, and if you want to produce the show or learn more about it, all you got to do is go to Canarycry.support.
>> Canary cry.support.
Now, we haven't thanked any producers.
You didn't thank producers on Monday, right?
>> I did not.
>> Okay. So, this is uh seven days worth of producers. So, thank you very much. And here are the executive producers. I want to start out with the wonderful one and only executive producer Toe.
>> Toe.
>> Toe.
>> Isn't is is Tof a knight?
>> He's eligible. He has not pulled the trigger on getting kned, though. I talked to him about this. Um, now TOE last month was running the TOE challenge. Okay. He was called to challenge other producers to come in executive produce the show. If you are already a supply dropper t-shirt council member, TOE called you to make an executive producership. And for every three executive producers ships that came in over the course of the last month or two, um he is going to sponsor one quarter of the Canary Cry Supply drop a moocher. Okay. Now he sent a uh email here. So I would like to read the email. He says the TOE challenge has been completed. That means that at least 33 executive producerships came in from people or protocol already signed up for a monthly producership. What an incredible blessing. Glory be to God.
May the blessing continue in the form of this executive producership of 113313 $1,133.13.
1113313 covering 11 supply drops for giveaways to brand new firsttime producers of time, talent or treasure. And this is when the uh giving keeps on going because if you have never produced the show in the time of your time, your talent, your treasure. Uh if you come in, get demooched, produced for the very first time, you will be receiving one of these free quarters of the supply drop.
Uh if you want to learn more about the supply drop, go to canaryupdrop.com.
Uh but this is extremely generous from of course Mr. toe here and extremely generous to those executive producers who made it possible for new demoochers to get a free supply drop. Now, a couple of people have demooched already. Uh, but there's still a few of these available. So, if you have never produced the show in any level, in any way, now is your chance. We're coming up on the deadline for this at the end of the week. So whether it's your time, your talent, your treasure, step up, produce the show for the first time. Let us know. Make sure you say this. I'm demooching here and uh you'll be receiving a supply drop box in this next shipment, which will include all sorts of great uh great stuff. It's going to have a glow-in-the-dark tumbler, which is awesome. You're going to be receiving uh one quarter gold back, so you can start stacking your gold. Uh, of course I think there's some Geom G Oh, there's the Gans's Red Yarn Co. You're going to get your own conspiracy theorist red yarn branded from Gans's Red Yarn Co. as well as a bunch of other great stuff.
So, now's the time. Go on over to Caner.support.
Support the show in any way you can.
Make sure we know that you're being demooched and uh the it's the gift that'll just keep on going. Uh toe ends the email with the deadline is open at the moment but I will check with sir I can report back. Um he says also yes that dollar amount is really what 33 * 11* 3 for a full quarter supply drop plus fees comes out to number one I did not oh so no I did not plan that. You know, that's crazy. The craziness that that was the amount that it ended up to, including the fees, which the fees is usually what screws people up when they're trying to get a certain number, right? Yeah.
>> So, the fact that the fees came out to that perfect number is really interesting.
>> Thank you very >> combo.
>> 113313. Thank you very much, Toe. uh huge blessing >> and especially in of course we all know support has been pretty rough lately because that's just how the world is going. This is a a huge blessing and and levels levels us out a little bit.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Along with that, I want to give a shout out to executive producer Cage Rattler Coffee.
>> Whoa.
>> Yeah. Cage Rattler Coffee coming in now again with all the special stuff that's been going on lately. Cage Rattler Coffee uh for the rest of this month is including a gold back, real gold with every bag of coffee that you order. For a 12 ounce bag, you get a quarter gold back. Uh if you go to a three pound bag, he throws a little extra in there. You get uh four quarter gold backs. you're stacking gold while you're getting your coffee.
>> That gold >> an excellent special way uh a to support other Canarians uh who are supporting the show. You're also supporting the show and you're stacking gold and you're getting the best p possible coffee you can. Uh huge response for Cager Rattler Coffee. Go to cage rattler coffee.com, get your coffee, get your gold, and support the show.
Cage Rattler coffee where value for value never tasted so good. Ah, >> it's gotten a little cold, but still good.
>> Warm up. Delicious.
>> Thank you, Cage Rattler Coffee. Go check it out. cage rattler coffee.com. Uh, next up, of course, we have the one, the only executive producer, Sir LX Protocol, V2 Baron of the Breen Protocol. Boom.
>> Yeah. And he's coming in with his $100.33.
Thank you very much, >> Illuminatus.
>> In fact, that's going to be 100 bucks.33 times 2 cuz he also came in on Monday.
>> Illuminatus >> double.
>> He's on a 490 episode streak uh altogether. Sorry, let me type this in. And a 144 executive producer streak. 144 jingle and it came straight from the high.
>> Very cool. Thank you. Executive 144 streak. Big stuff setting records. Thank you, sir. Alex Protocol V2.
>> So, he's been executive producing since episode 800 if my math is correct because 924. That is insane.
>> Incredible.
>> Thank you.
>> I don't know what we do without him.
>> All right. But I mean and the Lord is blessing him to be able to do that. I mean so praise God that he is uh providing not only for Sir Alex Protocol but for us as well.
>> Uh last but not least since last Wednesday we have executive producer Rebecca VM.
>> Rebecca VM. Thank you.
>> And Rebecca comes in for 2222.
$222.
Nice row of ducks there.
>> Nice. Thank you. And uh Rebecca leaves a me uh sends a message says, "I've been a listener since probably 2016 or 17, but I just started listening to your first episodes while I'm working." I think she's talking about Canary Cry radio episodes from back in 2012.
>> Uh episodes while I'm working. Gans's giggling at Basil's new name was great.
It's great hearing you guys have the same perspective in 2012 before everything. Yeah. Amen. Thank you, Rebecca. I mean, it's really crazy. I was just thinking about that recently, too, because, you know, I'm always I don't know. I don't know if I'm feeling uh I don't know, maybe it's a self-confidence thing. Maybe I just am checking myself. I want to make sure that I'm not getting too off base on things. Um, but the craziest thing about Canary Cry, our career, and the listeners who have been with us for so long is that you go back to those old episodes and like all the important stuff is there, right? We have not shifted or changed our ideas about things to fit the culture to try to fit in with the big narratives. It is so rare in life for anybody, but much less us personally, to stay so consistent in our search and our understanding for what God's doing on earth, um that we don't or or we haven't adjusted our opinions based on the world or society or what's hot or the hot theories or something, but literally the opposite.
We have seen the world adjust to what we have been talking about since 2012 which uh I mean that if that's not supernatural I don't know what >> well it's it's almost a testament in itself to leaning on the scriptures like an honest grounded approach to the scriptures it's like hey if you do that yeah you know depending on what society's talking about you might seem like a wackadoo >> but eventually >> we were we were whackadoo total fringe whack And now you go back and listen to our 2012 episodes, like they're as relevant, maybe even more relevant today than they were back then. And they're over a decade old. It's really incredible.
Thank you, >> executive producer Rebecca VM.
>> Yep. Appreciate it.
>> And of course that uh thank you to all of our executive producers coming in.
That ends the list for the execs today.
Really appreciate it. We have some people who came in under the executive producer amount we will thank later on in the show. Um, just a few announcements before we move on. Uh, Sir Ike wanted me to make sure everybody knows that the supply drop and the t-shirt council and the cage rattler coffee gold special, all three of these things, the deadline is this Sunday.
Okay. The supply drop. Remember, you're going to get your gold backs. You're going to get your cool stuff in the supply drop. Uh, you got to sign up by this Sunday. The t-shirt council, if you want to support us, get the t-shirts, uh, vote on the t-shirts, decide on the t-shirts, get one for free, you got to sign up by this Sunday. And if you want to get your Cage Rattler coffee bags with the gold backs inside, you also got to do it by Sunday. Okay? So, big day on Sunday. If you want to join the supply drop, go to Canaryupdrop.com.
t-shirt council is canarycry-shirtcouncsil.com and of course cager rattler coffee.com.
Big deadline this Sunday.
>> Yep.
>> Um we we we read to message. You know, I want to I want to give a shout out uh to Lulu. Lulu the dog.
>> Yeah. Been in contact was dealing with some stuff um with a producer, producer Danny. And uh I was giving a shout out to Lulu the dog here. Just real quick, here's a picture. Here's a picture. Cute little Lulu the dog. Little fluff ball.
I don't know Lulu, but that is a that's I mean, if any >> Look at those eyelashes.
>> Any creature who's going to be like, you know, uh a consciousness antenna for some sort of alien, this is the most adorable alien I've ever seen.
You missed the story on Monday, Basil, where the Chinese have created a collar that you put around the neck of animals, your pets, and it claims the AI is able to decode at 90, I think it was uh Oh, that's what it was. 98% accuracy for cats and like 92% accuracy for dogs. And I was kind of >> translating into English or something.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> You know what's funny? There there is a classic Rick and Morty episode based on that exact premise. And anybody who knows like how insane Rick and Morty is and like how out there it is.
The fact that Rick and Morty episodes are coming true is like the most weird.
>> Well, they they were maybe set up as the the you know the next generation Simpsons, you know, kind of predictive programming stuff. I brought up the the 1972 The Day of the Dolphin film >> where uh the scientists, it's actually based on some CIA experiments on dolphins and they discovered that they're intelligent and they figured out how to talk to them and then they were inadvertently training the dolphins to assassinate the president. So, all very relevant.
>> Uh but anyway, fun stuff.
>> Lord willing and the creek don't rise.
We're going to have some time. We're going to do a nighting unless we want to do it right now. We could do >> I say we just knock it out. I mean it is nighting.
>> Let's just do it real quick because here's the thing folks. Maybe you're new, maybe you don't know, maybe know.
Uh when it comes to producing the show, we have a very special way to honor producers who come in, they support the show for $1,000 or more. This could be all at once and one big thing or this could be over many, many years, many nights and dames of the Canary Cry round table of nights and dames. you know, they they support the show for years.
And once you get to that $1,000 mark, uh, we will name you a knight or a dame of the Canary Cry round table of knights and dames where you are honored. We want everybody to make sure to know how cool you are. Uh, you'll be given a well, you you get to choose a knight name or a dame name. Uh, you get a protectorate, and it's a very special part of the community here. And um you know a great way to make sure that we honor the people who say yeah I get it value for value or you know this is protecting all of us from such sinister and subtle ways that the system wants to control us control the show. Uh and so let's do a nighting. Let's knight Clankifius. The one and only Clankifius. We thank him every show. He does so much for us on the back end. Um, and for anybody out there, if you've been producing a show for a long time, it's a little bit of the honor system. You're responsible for doing your own accounting. Um, but if you believe that you've hit the $1,000 mark or more, send us an email at caneric cryoggmail.com.
Give us a night. Give us your protectorate. And, uh, we'd love to h you on the show. So, let's go ahead and knock this out here.
>> Okay. Well, I got to get over here to pull out my my katana. It's very sharp.
There you go.
>> Oh yeah, you almost cut me.
>> Get my Norwegian Nordic alien axe here.
Let me get this.
Okay, you would like to call up Clank and please step forward to the air cry round table of Knights and Dames where we have a seat for you. Thanks to your generous support in the amount of $1,000 or more, we are proud to pronounce you Sir Clankifius Knight with the Cyber Parchment and Proton Quill. Please join us at the bear cry round table where we have the belt of truthful truthiness breath plate of righteousness circs to carry forth the gospel of peace, the shield of ferocious faith, the helmet of substantiating salvation, the supernatural sword of the spirit and of course adorable samurai babies, infinitely cute kitties for cuddling, and if you're hungry, we have the fancy sweat food carved cosmo, the crisper cow, and of course, fried wormacorns.
Welcome to the Caneric Lie Round Table of Knights and Dames. Sir Clanktheus Knights with the Cyber Parchment and Proton Quill.
Crowd goes wild. producers out there, if you see Sir Clankifius walking down the road, make sure to hoist him up on your shoulders, carry him down the parade route, and uh thank him profusely for being such an important part of keeping the show going. Thank you, Sir Clankifius, knight with the cyber parchment and proton Quill.
>> He's got a sound effect already built in. This sound effect is labeled Sword Clank.
>> Sir Sword Clank. Sir Clank, thank you very much, Clank, for everything you do.
Uh, we're so happy to, you know, there are some producers whose names show up on every show. We thank them all the time for various things and we kind of automatically start calling them s like we just don't, you know, just in our minds.
They are nights already in our minds, right?
>> Night it is. But, uh, always a great day to night them. So, there you go, folks.
something to shoot for and a way uh that all of us can be grateful to these individuals for keeping the show going.
>> All right, >> one last uh I think pretty important thing from a producer. We got a boots on the ground report from Maverick Pilgrim >> uh that about the Ebola thing. He's over there in Africa and uh you know the Ebola thing is sort of boiling up. it kind of uh preceded or proceeded came from uh the haunt virus scare. We see these sort of pandemic narratives, these pandemic ops happen in a sort of progressing fashion. We've seen it like two or three times since COVID while they're trying to, you know, kind of royal people up, scare people for whatever reasons. Um, but Maverick Pilgrim, boots on the ground, giving us the heads up on the Ebola thing over in Africa.
>> Well, this is your Maverick Pilgrim coming to you from Kali, Uganda, which is technically in the hot zone for this Ebola outbreak that we're seeing on the news. I'm not in the hottest of the hot zones, which is in the DRC. That's where you're really seeing a lot of uh people contracting Ebola and you're seeing a lot wider spread. Uh but here in Kala there have been five people now that have contracted uh with one death and all of those have been connected back to travel within the Congo. Um if you're wondering what it's like honestly there hasn't really been much change other than them closing the border uh and cancelling a annual u pilgrimage that happens throughout um Uganda uh to a monument for martyrs. There really hasn't been much change and uh people are really not seeming that afraid. Uh there's really not much fear here and all I can say is is um it's not really that difficult to avoid. Um it's a little difficult to contract as long as you don't go around touching bodily fluids and staying around sick people, which most bodily fluids are on my no no list anyway. Uh it's really not uh that difficult to avoid. Uh if you see things that are making you afraid, don't let anyone steal your joy. Um yeah, don't believe all the fear-mongering, just be wise and uh yeah, we trust in the Lord.
So that's it.
>> Amen.
>> Thank you, Maverick program.
>> Yeah, I think that that's very important. you know, we have not been like locked in on the Ebola uh news cycle because I think especially here, I think we're able to spot when something's just like a narrative op and participating in like spreading the fear as a show is like falling right into the hands of the operation, right? Um, so I think we have not been drawn necessarily to stay, you know, to bring upto-date updates for the Ebola thing here. Um, but I love the boots on the ground report because I think it's confirming our instincts on how to handle that op here on the show. Um, I do think it's interesting how the, you know, one of the only sort of big responses he's seeing boots on the ground is a cancellation to what sounded like sort of a Christian pilgrimage uh, I don't know, holiday or festival or something. Um, so much like we saw with CO, it seemed like one of the most >> uh pressing things the elite wanted to do was keep people from going to church, you know, keep people from fellowshipping.
>> And so to see one of the biggest or perhaps the only response by the elites down there is to stop Christians from, you know, celebrating their martyrs or something. Uh, I think fits right in.
>> Oh, they've achieved their goals if that is the case. And by the way, while that that uh clip was playing of um Maverick Pilgrim, I think I think the military base opened a portal or something cuz they popped off something. It was so loud it rattled the windows and you can hear all the dogs start barking in the neighborhood.
>> You mean there California where?
>> Yeah. Right. Right where I am. Yeah.
Yeah. In Southern California. I mean, they always have stuff going off, you know, the military base or whatever, but that was like loud. That was that that took me by surprise. I mean, it's uh Yeah, whatever. Whatever they're doing over there, man.
>> Drones.
>> God bless America.
>> God bless America.
>> Yeah. Well, they're opening Stargates now. So, you know.
>> Yeah. Oh, that makes sense.
>> Maybe when they Yeah. When antimatter comes in contact with >> physical matter when they, you know, rip open that portal sometimes it could make a loud noise. So, anyway, thank you, Maverick Pilgrim.
>> Yeah, thank you. Let's jump into the news again here. um this particular little cultural update I want to give and it's fun because we were reading through this and we're going yeah of course you know of course this is this is we >> yeah I was like why are we why are we doing this this is so obvious >> going back to our AI reporting you know postulating about what the future is going to hold for AI you know back when we were talking in 2016 2017 um but we have rounded a corner here on AI because of course AI I everybody is freaked out about the jobs. Everybody's freaked out about the surveillance.
Everybody's booing AI at uh you know, college graduations, things like that.
Um but we had an update here that would have been on the Canary Cry road map had we had one. Uh but I thought it was very interesting um culturally and a good signal to the development of where we're at. So uh I'm not going to do a full thorough thing. Uh, sorry, full read, but it's coming over from Wired, and I'll do some summarizing after we open it up here. Uh, wired.com reporting. I spent a week recording myself doing chores for money. Who's the robot now?
Okay.
>> A new world order. So, we're going to hear a very interesting development when it comes to employment, gig work, AI training, and the desperation of the working class. But keep in mind this whole time that right in the headline they're asking who's the robot now playing with this sort of uh uh this concept of the personhood of robots, the personhood of people, the transhumanist melding of man and machine and ultimately sort of the beast system uh consideration that people are not people made in the image of God but just sort of cogs in the machine. Who's the robot now? Says >> I'm the robots.
>> Now, this is written in first person here by who? Join Cabrera. Oh, no. That is the person who made the art. Who authored this? Well, we're going to call him Bob here if I can't find it. All right. Bob says, uh, let me scroll. I am I am. Whenever I see I am in full cap bold letters, you know, I'm thinking I am that I am, you know, it's all it's already >> starting out the article with this kind of deep reference to uh God and our existence and our relationship with God and who we are and who God is. So it starts right out. I am no longer a mere human being. I am a conduit of reality, a medium of messages. I hold a knife in my hand and slice into an organic cucumber, hunching so the iPhone strapped to my forehead can capture all 10 fingers. I throw the slices into a salad bowl and end the recording. Somewhere a baby robot is a tiny bit smarter.
or even there it's almost reading like this I don't know is like a some sort of ancient poem or like grim ritual >> grim like that >> I am a conduit of reality I mean gee okay >> yeah so you've got kind of this psychedelia you've got kind of this consciousness oh just built into the language of the article right okay >> this was my existence for a full week last month as I performed data collection from the comfort of my apartment teaching. I think data collection is not but this was going to hold on perform data collection from the comfort of my apartment.
>> Did they not realize how much data was being collected prior to their endeavor into this posthuman mission to >> exactly what we're going to see here is a paradigm shift, right? Because we're all providing data that is being collected at all times, >> right? uh but the paradigm shift that's going to be presented from this I am who is writing this article who is now a conduit of reality. So there's already this like tower of babel you know >> posthum transhuman >> right and now the paradigm shift here is that this individual this person is performing data collection. So, it's an active, not passive, an active uh collection of their own data uh from the comfort of their apartment, teaching humanoids, not even robots, just humanoids, how to scrub dishes, fold laundry, and pour drinks, among other menial tasks. If robots are ever going to live with us and help out around the house, they need to develop fine motor skills. I performed my household chores with pride. Uh they have a parenthetical here that says, "I'm not usually contributing to mass data sets when I put away my jock straps." Uh I would disagree, but okay.
>> Yeah, I don't know that. You might want to scrape some of your data leakage.
>> Yeah. And I was glad to make some money, too.
>> Oh, here we go. And this is kind of part of the again coming straight from the uh narrative manipulators of big tech, right? There's this conversation of like, hey, we're making the data. We should get paid to make the data. As if that's the concern that everybody has.
Like they're not paying me for spying on me, right? It's the sort of straw man that's been coming from big data for a long time trying to uh divert or confuse what the problem that real people have which is hey you're spying on me all the time don't do that I want my privacy but creating this straw man of a problem saying oh no the peeons are just mad that we're not paying them for their data and there's been sort of this growing stepbystep uh narrative over many years now to say, "Oh, don't worry.
We're going to pay you for the data.
We're going to give you free stuff. You you're you're doing a job and we appreciate you, Pon. So, we'll right that's that's not what anybody's worried about." Um, but it is this sort of synthetic problem with which they're trying to solve. Here it goes on, firsterson videos shot with a camera attached to a person's head or chest.
Mark of the Beast. Anybody? you know, mark on my head are a growing need as more companies attempt to build bots and improve their AI models. Even though the internet is full of scrapable videos, hypersp specific clips like thousands of close-ups showing hands pouring water into a glass without spilling can be critical for fine-tuning machines to excel at real world tasks. This style of recording, okay, this purposeful camera on the head to try to train the robots.
This style of recording called egocentric data by the industry. So the industry calls this egocentric data. Now of course this refers to the fact that it's you know point of view. It's as if the robot is a human. They can see what it looks like from their point of view. But even calling it egocentric, it requires a person, it requires an identity, it requires an ego. Right? And we can consider right now in general uh in the study of AI and consciousness and personhood of robots, things like that.
One of the reasons people might not consider them sentient or people yet is because they don't have an ego. They're not they're not worried about the self.
They're not necessarily uh self-interested in a way that we would consider oursel, you know, the the self-preservation instinct, the self uh betterment, >> although some of the AI has started to show tendencies of that, which is why they're starting to say it's conscious and things of that nature, >> right? We see signs of this in the in the studies, but this is the development, right? And now this is training data that people are purposefully recording called egocentric data to give the robots that are going to be working essentially a sense of self. This is me doing the thing. This is what it looks like when I do it. Right? So they're even they're calling it egocentric data by the industry is in such high demand that some investors estimate leading companies will purchase hundreds of millions of hours from thirdparty suppliers over the next few years.
Meaning there are companies here finding ways to get human beings to perform specific tasks uh on you know with their own hands and recording it from POV. Uh this is like a new industry quote. I want every person on the planet to be recording themselves doing the dishes, says Avi Patel, the 22-year-old founder of data collection marketplace, CLED. Quote, that's going to make a robot so that you never have to do the dishes ever again. Egocentric data collection is already growing in countries like India where generally self-employed workers make around $125 a month on average.
Uh so most of what you're going to hear right now is happening in third world countries, right? Uh >> it's happening already.
>> They me you're right. They mention Malaysia, they mention India. Part of this is because it pays so little that it doesn't quite make sense for an American to do it. There's a lot of there's better ways to make money if you're really desperate.
>> Um, however, right off the bat, >> I see a problem with this because of culture, right? The globalist idea, the global culture, the elites. One of the big problems that's not working right now, uh, and this ties into immigration, this ties into culture, this ties into a lot of things, is from the elite level, they like to consider any human from any culture uh, interchangeable, right?
Everybody's tabularasa, everybody's equal. So therefore, we can import millions of, you know, Indians into America. And you they're thinking about it just in sort of an economic terms that it's not going to have some sort of cultural problem. It's not going to make some sort of cultural class.
They think you can take really millions of anybody from all over the world, put them in the same place, and everything's going to be fine. In fact, that it's going to be good. But one reason why this isn't working, and this has become very clear, is that different cultures just don't mix together in the way the elites would like. And it comes down to even very basic simple things. you know, hygiene, uh, interacting publicly, what's okay to do publicly, what's not okay to do publicly. Um, how to run a household, you know, these sort of just very basic building blocks of culture.
Uh, they don't mix in the way that big tech wants them to mix or even the elites, you know, who want the sort of globalized thing to mix. Um, and coming down, you know, they're talking about folding clothes and washing dishes, right? And it may be a pretty benign example, but if your robot in your house in America or even anywhere in the West is trained on the data from a, you know, millions of Malaysians or Indians and how they wash the dishes, even that is going to have a weird effect on how the robot runs your household. Right now this is a very benign example but you know even the perhaps even the uh the standards by which a dish being clean you know is or or the method by which it is cleaned. These are like the basic building blocks of culture that I don't know again these are very benign examples. You can find more extreme examples, but uh you know there's essentially inherently going to be a problem with putting uh basically an Indian robot in charge of your household. Things are going to be a little different, but that's not necessarily the main point here. Uh so the Indians, they're making 125 bucks a month on average. And these firsterson video gigs can offer similar rates. Uh, as interest swells, more data collection companies are looking to expand in the states, like Door Dash's standalone tasks app launched earlier this year.
Before long, many gig workers in the US may start delivering reality to make ends meet. Now, in America, the gig uh economy really is is is only a viable option to a very certain desperate class of worker, right? They can't maybe they don't have the skills. Maybe they just can't find a job. Maybe the jobs don't exist. So, then they have to turn towards gig work. And while this used to be like driving Uber, which was more or less viable to at least make it through, you know, periods where things are tough, uh, doing Uber Eats, uh, these types of gig work, you know, we've watched over the years, those get less and less viable and people getting more and more trapped in a cycle of desperation.
Well, the answer to that apparently is here's another gig work opportunity. You don't want to be driving around all day in a car. That's dangerous. It's wear and tear. Why don't you get paid for doing the chores you're already going to do? If you're going to wash the dishes dishes, wash the dishes with a ca dishes with a camera on your head. If you're going to vacuum the carpet, put a camera on your head. And you can make money just by doing these things you were going to do anyways. Uh but the article here uh describes it as delivering reality to make ends meet. You're not delivering people. You're not delivering food.
You're delivering reality for the client, which is the robots. This makes the robots the client instead of serving other humans. you know, at least driving Uber, Uber Eats, you're delivering real products for real humans, making society better, you know, making it work at least. But in this case, you're delivering reality or a recording of reality to the robots as your client.
Uh, the US may start delivering reality to make ends meet as well as the typical room temperature takeout. Thankfully, I already had a smartphone headmount in my possession from testing Door Dash's Task app. My impression even then was that bespoke video data was the dystopian future of gig work. Uh bespoke it just means custom. Anybody out there? Custom video data was the dystopian future of gig work. But I wanted to better understand this growing industry. Since Tasks is not available in California where I live, I signed up for three other platforms, Cled, Lule, and Waffle Video. The fact that this person lives in California just gives such an extra special like, I don't know, tint to this whole thing. The money I made was meager. I essentially trained the robots for close to free and didn't make a dent into the $2,500 a month San Francisco rent that I split with my partner. But the gigs did have one unexpected perk.
My apartment has never been this clean.
And this is where the very interesting opportunity comes from. Okay, it is not uh it is well known amongst our listeners that cleaning, doing regular chores, I describe these things as the daily cycle of inescapable suffering.
And on often this being trapped in this daily cycle of inescapable suffering, you know, God uses to mend me to mold me because I find it such an excruciating task. Uh but in this case to actually get paid to do my own chores at my own house I could see as a viable option even just to motivate me to make my life better and do my chores. Now turns out the money that you can make doing this is almost nothing. So it might not be enough uh to to uh motivate anything within me. But you can see that the reward mechanism with which they are trying to lure gig workers into training the robots on hypersp specific recordings of them doing chores. Um you know it's it the the incentive goes deeper than just the money. However, the money part is a big part of it because of course AI's taken all the jobs. Uh you know gig work is really all that's available to a lot of people. Um, and so there's this real dystopian prison uh where we then choose the panopticon where even in our own home doing our own dishes, we are incentivized by desperation to become the surveillance of our own uh sort of menial tasks. Does anything come up for you before I >> There's there's there's a lot knocking around in my brain, but yeah, there fir just to >> get this out of the way. I told you Joe Biden was a prophet. Okay, not a real prophet. I'm joking, folks. But he told us >> they all want to share their data.
>> He knew.
>> He knew. He knew that everyone's going to want to share their data. So that's that's one thing. This is also a a way that universal basic income is going to happen. I mean, it's already happening.
So it's already happening. But you know people always sort of wonder like ah how is it going to work? You know in the traditional sort of socialist or communist type of model you know the government sends you a check or something you know something like that.
But in America that was never going to really work. No one's going to vote for that. Andrew Yang tried to kind of put it into people's heads but there's not enough people to support that type of system where the government is actually handing you a check. However, that's not how America does it. America does it with public private partnerships. The government partners with >> the network states, right?
>> The network state the Yeah. the government >> state will provide for you. It's not necessarily the government, >> right? So they they will prov they'll partner with the companies and then the companies will carry out the things and then make it seem like it's a good idea especially as we are already pretty deep into the gig economy. You know, it talks about Uber and stuff. Um and and now menial tasks that you'd have to do anyway are being incentivized or at least we're at the beginning of it.
>> Yeah. It's like the right why not what are you cranky? What are you against AI for no reason? Why not do it? What's wrong with >> Yeah. Yeah. So there's a couple things that I think need to be sort of in the practical sense and then philosophically from a practical perspective just a grounded sort of biblical idea of fairness and you know uh being stewards and stuff like this actually ironically will uh help perhaps some people with the stewardship of your home and you know whatever like gardening what cuz the data you think this is just washing dishes. No, this is going to be doing gardening work. This is literally any job, any this, as the article states, reality, right? Any any type of duty that humans do, uh, will sort of feed the machine, so to speak, to to take it over at some point. So, >> there needs to be >> the egocentric data part of this. Uh, we'll get into it, but they even mentioned tying their shoes. Why would you want to why would you need to train a robot to tie it own shoes? Why is it going to Anyways, I don't want to interrupt >> or tie your shoes or tie my shoes.
>> Yeah, right.
>> No one's going to know how to tie their own shoes anymore because the robots's going to do it for him. So, there has to be an element and I think these are going to become the political issues of of the future or the near future is proper compensation. You know, right now the guy is like, ah, they gave I think at the end of the article it says like made 21 bucks or something, you know.
So, it's like okay, 20 bucks for doing my own dish, which is not nothing. It's better than zero.
uh but it's it's not much. It's not going to support a family, so to speak.
So, there's that side of it. There's also the uh there's going to in my mind, there's going to have to be some kind of first off data transparency.
The the corporations are going to have to agree or at least on paper agree that there's privacy that's respected or whatever. Like there's going to be all these different things. That's a big part of it. you know, how is the data used? How is it?
>> The fact you're getting paid uh manufacturing the consent that that privacy might not even be a problem anymore because it's being secretly gathered and so they have to kind of hide something.
>> Yeah. But but but if a camera is catching something, you know what I mean?
>> It'll get into that in a second here.
Okay.
>> No, you you bring up a good point like there's this consent. There's this manufacturer of consent involved as well, >> right? And then thirdly, this I think that this type of thing will become much more popular not just in the sense of am I getting paid but am I getting equity in this company or this robot or product or whatever is going to be the end result of this.
>> Uh in much the same way that corporations will pay their employees stock or something to you know kind of keep them plugged in to the company.
that'll become uh and maybe contracts will be signed where it's like, okay, we're going to give you equity into this robotics company. You're going to be working for them for 20 years.
>> They have the answer to that. Now, remember, this is gig work. So, they don't actually want employees, right?
>> The whole gig work thing is to set corporations free from responsibility to employees. But, but they they have a good response to what you're saying. And of course, the way they dis they have it, they want it is actually more dystopian than what you're even referring to. Like what you're talking about would be maybe the more ethical way to do it.
>> Well, that's what I was trying to bring up is these things would have ways around that for sure.
>> Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Continue.
>> Okay. So, I'm going to skip down to uh the the paragraph that starts with the bold waffle video was um so they take a second and they um they he he lists a couple different uh apps that he did this with and he kind of gives his his experience with the apps and you know it's interesting but it's not relevant to the broader picture here. But then he tries uh Waffle Waffle Video which is another one of these apps. Waffle Video was easily my favorite of the three platforms. Unlike Kled and Lu, excuse me, it focuses solely on video training data. Oh yeah, there was one mention uh before where the person did a bunch of videos and uploaded it and once they did it, they realized to get to even be eligible to get paid out, they needed to upload like a hundred pieces of data, right? So they spent a couple hours, made these videos, put them up there, and they were only onetenth of the way to even being eligible to get paid out.
So what they were then incentivized to do to make their quota was to upload anything on their photo roll, right?
Each picture that they uploaded counted towards this quota because then, you know, you're consenting and purposefully uploading your own images. This is slavery. This I mean they have to steal it.
>> So So it's this incentivization where they got him going. He recorded a couple things and then said, "Oh, you need a hundred more things before we can even think about paying you." And they said, "Do you want to upload some of your own photos?" And he said, "Uh, okay." And so he uploaded a hundred pictures from his, you know, vacation. And so there was this almost extortion, right? He he was he was extorted into saying, "Okay, here's a bunch more data. This isn't really what I signed up for, but here you go."
>> Uh, so that was, you know, a pretty sketchy part of it. Now, >> Poly Market overunder on Ben Shapiro uh pushing waffle on his platform.
>> Everybody loves waffles.
>> He's already got it done.
>> Everybody loves waffles.
>> Waffle video was easily my favorite of the three platforms. Unlike Kled and Lu, it focuses solely on video training data. And the missions, quote, "Missions I saw in the app, like shoelace tying and water pouring, paid $25 per hour of video." Now we're talking.
>> Now we're talking. Let me pour water for a whole hour so I can make 25 bucks.
>> So Waffle is more like it's a little bit more gamified, right? Yeah, >> it's very similar to that daredevil dare >> market where you you find a dare and you do the dare and people pay you to do the dare.
It's very similar. You have missions, right? Hey, tie your shoes.
>> It's starting to sound like Ready Player One, but continue.
>> It is this gified, right? And yeah, I mean, Ready Player One for those who need a reminder, you know, is a dystopian look at this future where nobody has a job and you perform these little digital activities uh just to, you know, for a corporation to pay your your rent or whatever >> to pay for your rent and Yeah. Yeah.
food and stuff. Yeah.
>> Uh each data set that users create is customuilt for the companies purchasing the data, right? So the client, the company says exactly what they need.
They're like, "We got to train this robot how to tie the shoe. Get a billion people to tie their shoes. Give us the data." So Waffles missions are available only for a limited amount of time. The app, so it's this gamified. Do it now.
It's exclusive. Let's go. The app also offers gig workers recurring revenue, essentially a syndication if their videos are rellicensed to additional companies. So this is where getting around the employee thing works on your account. Let's say you do a tie the shoe, you did it for a mission, you know, they sell that, you make your money. If another company comes along and says, "Hey, we need the shoe tying data." Then your old shoe tying videos can get sold again and you can get paid again. Right? This is residuals. This is what hustle culture would call passive income.
>> This is this is like when musicians play make a record or something and make a song and they license that song out over and over and over again and make forever money.
>> Yeah, that was like basically but yeah.
>> Uh yes, it's very similar to that. So it's like it's like getting continuously paid for these videos of So now it starts to th sound a little bit more viable, right? At least in the idea whether it works or not, whether the money works, you know, that probably not. They're going to it's it's a trap.
It's a prison. But but at least that the incentive is there. You go, okay, well this two shoe tying video could pay me forever. Let's see. uh syndication of their videos are rellicensed to additional companies. Quote, I think there's an amazing opportunity to create a symbiotic relationship between the people that are giving their life, their perspective, their creativity, their data essentially to these models.
End quote. Says I mean listen to that.
giving your life, your perspective, your creativity, your data. This is what you're getting paid for.
>> Your soul speaking, what they're doing with this lang language is trying to give the impression that there is human work value in this, right?
>> What we know is that humans need work or something like work, right? You it gives you value. It gives you purpose. gives you it gives you more than just the money work does and that's the biggest threat to the AI uh economy or from the AI economy and also why UBI is a bad idea because if you just give people money and they don't have to work it's not just that you know they get free money and then blow it on poly market or something it's that they no longer have the incentive to pursue meaning in their life so this lang language is, hey, there's meaning in you training the robots how to tie your shoe, right? This is your life, your perspective, your creativity. This is human work. And that that phrase human work is essential in the AI economy, in the UBI economy, in the >> counterfeit ledger of life to create the counterfeit ledger of life.
>> Exactly. And so if they can sufficiently convince people, hey, there's meaning in this like may, you know, maybe they'll do a better job >> and that was Joshua Mesnik, Waffle's 34year-old co-founder and CEO COO.
Quote, for that to be a reciprocal relationship instead of just a one-way street. Mezznik co-founded the startup with CEO Joey Newfield who's 33 in 2024. So we got our >> 33 is the number of completion of the great work.
>> It's 2026. Why would they say he's 33 in 2024? What's the exact is this when they started the company? Is it >> Yeah, they gave the current age of the C COO but then gave the age of the CEO from founding. Right. So they they they I know it's kind of >> their way >> kind of subtle and people can shake their head at it, but they had to very specifically change the tense in which they gave the information about the founders to make sure they could say 33.
Okay. Uh Waffle is also most uh detailed in its guidelines about what the app does and doesn't want. Before uploading, users are able to see every reason their submissions might be rejected, from blurry recording quality to the inclusion of copyrighted audio.
Alongside an example video, the tasks include thorough instructions on how to record each chore. Like these deets from pouring liquids, pouring action must be visible. Liquid must be clearly shown.
Both containers should be visible.
Receiving container must be clear glass or clear plastic to be able to see changing liquid level. After startups collect these firsterson videos from humans like me, the next hurdle is transforming the reams of data into sellable formats. Then they just explain how AI labels it and they do a bunch of metadata and stuff like that. I really got into my video data groove while using Waffle. The rate was high enough to actually feel enticing, and I gleefully coverted around the house like a reality TV show producer, hoping to film as much content as humanly possible. Tying my shoes over and over again. Done. Scrubbing the dishes until they're sparkling. Done. Pouring Diet Coke back and forth between glasses until it's flat. Done. My smartphone was essentially glued to my forehead all evening as I completed AI tasks on Waffle. Each submission was around 20 seconds long as dictated by the app. For this mission, I blazed through 125 approved uploads in a few days of work, earning $20 for my efforts.
We're almost done here. They're going to wrap it up with some thoughts. Uh Namiel, Lule's founder, worries about the future of work despite running a company that trains robots who could one day replace human workers. quote, "My biggest fear is that unemployment will go up extremely high." Oh, I'm sure that's your biggest fear.
>> More than it already is, he says. Namiel sees Lule and gig work more broadly as a quick way for people to make some cash, not as a panacea for labor trends.
Quote, part of our goal is to also create jobs, but that's obviously a hard thing to do. Patel proudly shares that one of his top earners on Kled is a truck driver earning $8,000 a month by filming with his dash cam and submitting pictures of potholes. But this user's experience is clearly an outlier. The majority of those submitting data for AI model training are not making this kind of cash. Even though the hunger for video training data seems almost boundless. And you know there's a reference here to the fact that data you know we talked years ago about data being the new oil right thinking of data as a precious commodity and in this case an endless commodity although some people think oil is also endless but as important as any of these energy commodities. Um, and so the implication here is that the need for this, the opportunity for this gig work will never go away. That's what at least the messaging is here. So no matter how many jobs get taken, no matter how much AI destroys all opportunities, uh, you can always strap a camera on your head and deliver reality forever.
uh egocentric video gig work is still I'm sorry uh let me back up uh even though the hunger for video training data seems almost boundless egocentric video gig work is still well gig work which comes with fewer worker protections and less overall stability exactly how they want it specialization might be the only way now listen to this part this they're trying to put a silver lining on Specialization might be the only way to make a meaningful amount of money doing this in the US. Anyone can record videos of cucumber chopping, but only an experienced sushi chef can really show the best way to slice salmon sashimi.
Quote, "I'm sure there's a world where chefs are completely replaced from the planet." Patel says, quote, "But they're never really replaced because they're at home filming videos making unique recipes used to train these robots.
They're getting paid."
So the most the best vision that the creators of this can give is hey yes chefs at restaurants will be replaced by robots trained on videos from real chefs. So that special chef, that sushi chef, that you know, Michelin star chef, sure they won't be cooking in a restaurant where real people eat the food that they trained their whole lives to be able to make, but they can still stay home and make all this food on video to train the robots to make the food for the real people. You see, we get like layer after layer after layer removed from any meaningful interaction from any human. And they are praising this idea that yes, the super fancy sushi chef, while he won't be making you sushi, he can be making it at home alone to train the robots who make your sushi.
What a beautiful world. Gans were coming up on the sushi maker can keep making sushi for himself or his family.
>> It's so dystopian. It's insane.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> And how much sushi is he going to be able to make at home if he needs to do, you know, a hundred videos of making sushi. He's not going to make a hundred pieces of sushi at home at night in a day because then who's going to eat that sushi? It's just I know it's like weird underground secret home, you know, chef restaurants or something. All right, just to give the last let me round it out at the end. My total earning for the week came to $2155.
>> For me, this experience was a casual side hustle, a way to pay for a few extra diet cokes by completing chores around the apartment. But for workers around the world and increasingly in the US, this kind of AI gig work may be accepted under economic pressure and relied on as a means to live. Teach the robot how to cook tonight so you can put table uh put food on the table tomorrow.
So even sort of ends with this weird combination of like bestcase scenario, inevitability and becoming everything we even can do, anything we are expert at, anything that would give us meaning to do the work in the real world will be relegated to doing that work just to train an AI just to put food on the table tomorrow.
>> Yeah. in the context of the mark of the beast where you have to take the mark to buy or sell.
>> Yeah.
>> This this is a huge step in that direction and you can see how topics like UBI and the mark of the beast come together with something like this.
>> Yeah.
>> Especially since there was a recent report here. I think it was a couple days ago. This is from the Web 3 Foundation. So take it for what it's worth. Uh but their report was called free isn't free. New report by Web3 Foundation finds big tech and AI earn up to $831,000 in lifetime value from the data of each US internet user.
>> Wow.
>> And so the idea and I guess the numbers aren't necessarily super accurate, but the concept here is that we've spent 30 40 years putting everything online. old books, artwork, whether it's our work or somebody else's work, collective human knowledge and creativity and everything we've been uploading onto the internet and then the AI just commoditized all of it and or making us pay >> and they're trying to sell us sell it back to us, right? Reontextualized the way we wanted or whatever. So in that as as that sort of frustration of the general public raises and the awareness of it raises applications like this I I I know that they're trying to get around it with the the article here trying to sort of give a a logic as to how this might work. But I really think if there's actually going to be any bastion of I don't know decency as this encroaches us, people are going to demand a certain level of not necessarily like financial gain although that's a part of it. It's more like a a a fair value for their I don't know data.
>> Yeah.
>> And that's what it's trying to get ahead of, right? Like this is the trap >> to try to say, "Hey, okay, you can get paid for your data. I know we owe you for your data, right? So start doing this gig work out of despair. Get trapped in this cycle of poverty, even if you're super super duper skilled, you know, do it to train." So this is like an attempt to get ahead of the reality of exactly what you're talking about, right? And you know to be optimistic if so few people start participating in this gig work that's basically humanity saying no that's not enough right you this is not enough for you to uh compensate us for what you've taken from us for so long right but unfortunately you know how dire the financial situation is and can be the the question is will They make the economy uh bad enough that the desperation gets so bad that people have no choice but to do this and they can kind of force our hand to accept this deal and not push for a better deal like you're talking about.
Ree Rogers is the author it looks like of this article.
>> Rogers. Okay.
>> And just biblically speaking here, and this is where I think >> if we're just going to lean on the scriptures to provide a case for trying to balance the scales, if you will. You got Proverbs 11:11, a false balance is an abomination to the Lord, but a just weight is his delight. You know, so there could be a world where, you know, there's a balance here where sure the, you know, the corporations and everything are sucking all that data, but they're also providing a fair type of wage, if you will.
>> Yeah. Well, that's that's it. That's like the the biblically centered charge is to say, hey, make it fair.
Like it's an abomination to make it so unfair, >> right? Uh similarly, Leviticus 19:13, you shall not oppress your neighbor or rob him. The wages of a hired worker shall not remain with you all night until the morning. Um you know, similar similar thought process. And then in the New Testament, the book of James 5:4, "Behold, the wages of the laborer who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts."
So this is again, this is like warning the tech companies. This is those passages are not necessarily for us in this context. This is warning these these guys, these, you know, whatever the billionaire class, the the elite class, uh, not to exploit us, you know, >> in true Old Testament fashion, like when these warnings are given by the prophets in the Old Testament, they are always delivered on, right? over and over and over. The whole Old Testament is this cycle of Israel specifically following God, being taken out of the wilderness, you know, given, you know, what God has promised them, established them, prospered them, and then in that moment of prosperity, the Israelites turn away from God, begin extorting each other, abusing each other, uh you know, forgetting the poor and the widow. And then the the prophet comes along. These who are always very unpopular. Nobody likes the prophets.
The prophets are always bringing these warnings that government of the time, the culture of the time, they always hate what the prophets have to say. And the prophet comes in and say, "Stop what you're doing. Be fair. Watch out for, you know, uh abusing people, the poor, the the widow, the orphan. You're doing it bad. God's going to destroy you." And then they usually cast the prophet out into the wilderness or they kill the prophet or something. And then immediately God's judgment is delivered specifically on the culture on the government that turn that that continues the abomination of unfairness towards the the most vulnerable. Right? This is the entire cycle of the Old Testament.
And we're watching this uh play out right in front of our eyes. I mean, you know, whether or not we're talking end times prophecy, whether or not we're talking, you know, Antichrist stuff, we'll get into that in a second. Whether or not we're watching, uh, you know, the book of Revelation play out right before our eyes, whether or not that is the case or not, we are definitely watching part of the Old Testament cycle where the prophets are yelling, "Turn back.
Turn back to God. the way that you are treating people, the system you have set up, this will only end in God's judgment on your society.
>> Once once you start seeing that pattern too, it it just repeats over and over again throughout biblical history and then throughout postcanon history. And one of the times will be the fulfillment of prophecies like >> the image and the mark and all that kind of stuff. But we we do repeat this over and over again almost as if there's archetypes that repeat most like that's we have a habit, you know, we we talk about the Old Testament is this cycle of Israel's habits of turning from God and and being punished and having to go back. But really, you look all through history, that is humanity's habits.
>> That's the whole thing. That's the whole story. We just don't learn.
>> Um, real quick, Basil, I'm looking at the clock. Let's make a a choice. Do you want to do anti-tech extremism or do you want to do antichrist?
>> Let's save antichrist. Yeah, we'll we'll keep antichrist the audible. I think this goes really well into the anti-tech extremism. Okay, because we just talked about the systems, the warning, the abuse, the abomination, the gig work, the desperation, the whole thing I think transitions into uh into the the the anti-tech extremism perfectly. Ant extremist >> artificial intelligence.
>> All right. This is coming also from Wired. Wired making the rounds recently.
>> And >> I love I just love how they're carrying every piece of this like >> Yeah. Well, it's Yeah. I mean, Wired hasn't been on our radar radar a whole lot recently, but uh in I guess in the last >> They're the worst. They're They're awful.
I know we've >> Which is part of why I think it's so interesting that they're what they're putting out there is so relevant now to our context.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I I recall I think we quoted the co-founder of Wired years ago. He's the one that was talking about how we're all going to be nodes on a network and you know all that kind of stuff. Um okay. So this is written by Daniel Boguslaw. Bogus law. Huh. Okay.
Uh from wire.com headline is US law enforcement warns of anti-tech extremism as AI hatred grows.
>> Oh no.
>> And the sub heading here is Americans stew over the learning risk of job stealing AI and data centers in their backyards. The feds are raising the alarm about a new category of threat documents obtained by Wired show. Uh, and this is again, it's I don't know, it takes about 10 minutes to read this, but we'll touch on some spots and and comment.
>> Yeah, I think we're good even in kind of the first half, you know. I think it >> Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. In the wake of attacks on CEOs, a nationwide protest movement targeting data centers and increasing concerns about AI job replacement, federal intelligence agencies, and domestic law enforcement are circulating reports with a new domestic target in mind.
Yay! New target, guys. New bad guys, anti-technology extremists.
>> You could extremists in anything and make it sound like the bad guys.
>> Uh, more than a thousand pages of unpublished reports from the Department of Homeland Security, FBI, and fusion centers. Fusion centers obtained by Wired show a national shift taking place to surveil this new and worryingly broad category of people and activities deemed an emergent threat. I love that.
>> This is it's a broad it's it's this this category of people is very broad and as we're gonna see it's perfect because we all remember during the Biden presidency when Christians were considered the terrorists, right? Specifically, you know, Catholics, they said traditional Catholics were terrorists, but Christians in general, those were the ones to watch out for. Okay? So, watch out Christians. They're watching you.
And as we'll get into this anti-tech extremist extremism is such a broad term that includes the left, includes the right, includes Christians, includes Antifa, includes, you know, we've always talked forever like don't get caught in this leftright paradigm, right? They're because they don't the elites know that the the left right thing is just a facade. It's just theater, right? And this uh you know this piece of intelligence this intelligence product kind of reveals uh what we've known about how they see us for a long time.
And in this case, you know, remember the people the the gig workers we just talked about who are so desperate.
Doesn't matter if they're Christian, doesn't matter if they're Antifa.
Everybody is going to be so affected by what we're moving into that anti-tech extremism could literally be anybody.
I I feel like I've solved the issue.
They should just pay the anti-extremist uh anti-tech extremists and thank them for providing data for their robots and AI.
>> They're hoping that's what they're hoping for.
>> That would be that's like the Yeah, that's the little switch >> because the work thing is also important. You know, we talk about work and meaning and and all these sorts of things. You know, who's the most likely to rise up against the government or blow up a a tech, you know, data centers, >> data center is the unemployed, right?
The those who are unemployed are significant.
>> There's no more >> their meaning and purpose becomes fighting the system, taking down the system, >> right? And so >> the only thing left to fight because they don't have anything else to do.
Every person that you can't uh convince that they are doing good, meaningful, creative work by strapping a phone to their head and tying their shoes 800 times is potential, you know, is a potential anti-tech extremist. So try to capture them, try to lock them in and try to incentivize them early on or else they might actually become dangerous to the whole system.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And again, they should just pay these people for the data they are providing for the intelligence agencies.
This new effort follows President Donald Trump's national security president uh presidential memo 7, which instructs the Department of Justice to target anyone holding anti-American, anti-Christian, and anti- capitalism beliefs. Mhm.
>> That's a that's a big >> that's very Yeah, the umbrella is very huge on that because you could be an American citizen and kind of have some issues with I don't know the way the government works or something and you can be labeled anti-American. I mean you and I are Christians, Basil, we could be labeled anti-Christian based on some of our views.
>> Well, that's the thing. Yeah. The the anti-Christian part of this is very interesting because we all know there is a lot of Christians who are looking at AI going is this the antichrist is this the beast is this you know inherently esqueologgical Christianity is going to be very skeptical of you know the dystopian tech AI future and so you know but that's kind of a given in this it's kind of a given that there's you know the Christian side that's very skeptical of the AI, but then they come in with the anti-Christian as if anti- being anti-Christian would like describe someone who wants to blow up a data center. Like it's such it's so bizarre. Like it shows how wide how wide and how broad the description is because you would have to if they're remember this is a domestic surveillance program. If it's domestic and they're looking at looking for people that are anti-American, well, they're American citizens. So, how anti- can they be? And then, so it just depends on how they're defining American, how they're defining Christian. I mean, if we if we disagree with Peter Theal's Christianity, are we going to be considered anti-Christian?
It's just really >> Exactly. Very >> even Peter Teal gave his Antichrist lectures, right? He's like, "Hey, I'm a Christian. Let me tell you about Antichrist." And his whole point was that antichrist or antichrist spirit are people who are fighting against the AI takeover. He says we must stop the antichrist by building our own AI dystopian beast system. Right? That was the whole weird like bait and switch of Peter Teal saying if you're against AI then you are antichrist. So we have both the uh the Christians who are think that tech might be a version of antichrist and the anti-Christians all part swept up in this net of uh anti-tech extremism. Unbelievable.
Earlier this month, Trump's counterterrorism ZAR Sebastian Gorka released a public counterterrorism strategy claiming that left-wing extremists are one of the three top counterterrorism priorities facing the United States. Okay. All right. So, they're expanding that. It's not just leftists now. It's all the others. Taken together, these Trump administration directives have commandeered the domestic surveillance apparatus to surveil and criminalize speech and assembly that challenges the ideology of the White House.
>> No. Yeah. Notice how it's all about Trump, right?
>> Yeah. A new focus on anti-technology extremism adds an unreported category to already public designations under a presidency that has heavily invested political and material capital in AI and data center proliferation.
So yeah, this is this is all about widening the net. It was leftist extremists, now it's anti- capitalists.
It's, you know, anti-semitism is part of this, too. They don't mention it, I don't think, in this article, but that that's been part of the the conversation of u, you know, people that need to get in line. Uh, and also anti-Christian, anti-American. I mean, so basically, you got to be a you got to be a, you know, bootlicker basically to survive this whole thing. I mean, you can't have any any opposing opinion or you're just an extremist now, >> right? They even include later on in the article they talk about because of course data centers going up all over the place as a big concern and there's a lot of success in blocking construction of data centers in various states.
There's a lot of not success as well but um it says here let's see here they've uh tracks opposition to data centers.
Hundreds of organizations across 42 states have organized to block data center construction in their own towns and counties. These efforts are often contentious in California, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, state and local police have removed or arrested speakers at town halls who criticized data centers in one case before they were even allowed to speak. So, in a similar way where we saw during the Biden administration, parents showing up at school board meetings saying, "Hey, I don't want all this trans stuff in my first graders class or something, getting arrested and considered uh, you know, domestic terrorists for speaking out against, you know, in schoolboard meetings. Uh they're talking about even in all these uh town hall meetings where people show up and say, "Hey, we don't want a data center." Simply for not wanting a data center, they are being arrested and labeled anti- you know, tech terrorists, things like this.
>> Yeah. Yeah. They they catalog some companies that are working with the government to monitor social media. And uh as this says here, there's one called site. This is a quote. site is a for-profit private intelligence firm that monitors social media for its law enforcement customers. It promises to do an incredibly difficult, if not impossible, job consistently mining social media written by anonymous posters full of in jokes, slang, different languages, vagueness, and so on to deliver credible information that can predict threats. Reynolds says, quote, "Instead, this type of activity tends to focus on people's views about things like policing, abortion, economic inequality, vaccines, and other hot button topics of the day. By narrowing our oent focus exclusively to communities with a proven link to realworld harm, even trolling remarks have an informative value, demonstrating sentiment within a community toward a target." in our reports have shown a notable spike in online threats advocating for sabotage against data centers which is a true cause for concern. Rita foundite tells Wired in an email. So yeah, I mean even just >> reading sentiment sentiment analysis is such a important part of uh if you're doing any kind of social media analysis, what you're really doing is sentiment analysis. You're looking at the sentiment of the group and you can probably measure I don't know I don't know what way man it's all >> vibes the vibes yeah they can measure the vibes and then of course you know the vibes will feed into the physical consequences whether it's a protest or you know throwing rocks or mol cocktails at a data center >> sets the tone for the response from right or whatever because suddenly yes it sets the tone which then heightens the risk of you know actual uh uh you know posting against uh data centers where before it might just be like oh yeah this guy doesn't like data centers but if it's like the vibe is like oh the natives are getting restless then it becomes more applicable to take action on someone who just says I don't like data centers you know >> now the the way they start to profile the anti-tech extremists is pretty alarming as well says here the zeroing in on anti-tech activity by federal agencies is evident in an invitation to a lecture by extremism researcher Maro Lebrano circulating in fusion centers across the country fusion centers by the way. This was a weird part about this. They keep saying fusion centers which seems to be just another name for data centers.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's data now but you know it's going to be something else as time goes on. Lubano has emerged as one of the foremost experts on anti-technology extremism. He is the author of Stop the Machines: The Rise of Anti-checknology, which describes three main strains of newly minted threat matrix.
Insurrectionary Anarchists, Eco Extremists, and Ecofascists.
Lubrad's book identifies followers of uniber uniomber Ted Kazinski, German anarchists, Mexican ecoextremists, and far-right fascists in the terror collective as distinct but aligned components of an emerging tech extremism movement.
>> Love it. You got the anarchists, you've got the farright fascists, you've got the evil.
>> It's bringing people together. Look at this. This is bringing all the different factions of extremism together under one umbrella here. Uh it goes on and talks about it. Now I do want to mention before we we run out of time here that we did interview somebody Basil way back in the day. His name was Dr. Hugo Dgeras and I just emailed him today to see if we can get him back on the show uh because his work was so relevant. He wrote that book called The Artlect War.
You've heard us rant about it in the past if you've been around. If you haven't, Dr. Higa Degaras, who's we I think this interview is from 2014 if I'm not mistaken. Uh yeah, here we go. 2014, April 2014, the Artlect War with Dr. Higod Degaras. Basically, he outlined this scenario where you're going to have these cosmists who believe that using AI and technology, we are not just building gods. Well, mostly it's we're going to build a god. We're building God on Earth basically through this, >> which is a totally normal thing for people to think these days >> nowadays. Yeah. I mean, back in the day in 2014, people were thinking, "What are you what sci-fi novel are you writing?"
But really, he saw the writing on the wall and that's why we felt uh so kindred when we were talking to him. It was like, "Oh, we get it." Um, and so that's one group, the cosmists. And one could argue the current upper elite tech class, they are the cosmists. They want to build this deity out of AI and technology. There's another group called the the Terran and their job or their desire is to maintain humanity. They're they're the bio people. They're like, "No, let's stay human, you know, uh let's defend humanity the way we are. I mean, we're we're valuable the way we are. We don't need this change." And there's a third group that's a little bit it makes the whole thing very contentious. And that's the cyborgists.
And they're kind of rogue. They're they're a mix. So, um, some cyborgists, meaning that they will merge with the machine, some cyborgists will be all about the cosmist, uh, agenda because they're like, "Hey, I want to be God, too. So, I'm going to go with the cosmists and, hey, I'm going to ascend with the machine to godhood." The other side of cyborgists will be more with the Terran, and they'll say, "Yeah, we're going to enhance ourselves, you know, with the technology that's available, but we're we're not trying to be God or gods over here. We're just trying to sort of, you know, maintain our humanity and and be that barrier. And so it's almost like a I don't know uh what are those rogue uh I'm trying to think of the Star Wars analogy where they're they're not of either the Empire or the Rebellion. Who who are those folks that kind of I don't know the bounty hunters kind of kind of thing. You know, they're in the middle. They're they just they just kind of side with whoever. um maybe ideologically they lean one way or another, but it's a very interesting thesis and the the way I read this article from Wired was really the the rubber meeting the road of that type of political factions starting to really create itself and not because uh I mean by the now that the federal government, the feds or whatever they are cataloging this as a group, I mean this is we're we're pretty far down the the rabbit hole when it comes to is developing and cuz you could just say tens, you know, like anti-tech extremists, what do they want? Well, they just they don't want tech to completely take over. They don't want to sacrifice their humanity, basically. Uh, and really, that's what's underneath all this. They're making it sound like they're just evil neolites. And that's another phrase. Did they use the word neolites in this article? I forget.
>> I didn't see it.
>> But lites being people that are very against technology. Neolites being the modern form of that. Um, and so that's sort of the way a an elite class of cosmists would paint the terrance.
You're in our way. Why do you want to stop us from building God, right?
>> It's like this crazy thing.
>> It's a an existential threat, you know, very much like how we see the Democrats like no, this MAGA is an existential threat. It's not just about disagreements and ideology. It's about we will die if they get >> right. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean I don't know if there's anything else from the article specifically you wanted to draw on the general idea.
>> Yeah. Oh, the the one more thing the the data centers issue this is only and you know whatever you believe about space or outer space or whatever this is going to push the elites to build all the data centers in quote unquote space so that the you know the terren can't get to it you know the ter they've been talking about it and the question is always kind of like why and they've always said well it's easier to get energy from the sun or something like that but really that's a defense protocol you in space. Nobody can touch them.
>> Yeah. Your little peeons can't get to the data centers now unless you >> we send them our nuke or something and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, maybe the maybe part of this extremist group will tame themselves if they are paid like, "Hey, thank you for your anti-tech extremist data. Uh here's a little bit of money so you can go distract yourself and then uh and then we'll continue building our god over here."
>> Meaningful work. You're helping.
>> Yeah. Meaningful work. Yes. Yes. So anyway, yeah, very interesting that the developments are whether it's aliens or technology or AI, it just seems we're ready for this conversation and we've thought about this Basil for so many years.
>> Um and and it's almost like we're not meant to be in the big spotlight and we don't you and I have talked about this.
We don't want the big spotlight. I would probably better to maintain a level of >> uh I don't know common sense when it comes to all this because a lot of it is getting a little bit out of hand. So >> yeah, >> appreciate all of you for being here, you know, alongside with us in trying to stay as grounded as possible because it is getting a little bit crazy. So >> yeah, and of course, you know, each and every one of our producers is playing an essential role in that too. And uh yeah, it's always a question. We, you know, we're we're always a little cheeky about it when it comes to New York Post doing full articles based on people's podcast episodes that we talk about we talked about 10 years ago. Um, but you know, we're just right where God wants us and we're happy and uh we couldn't do it without our producers. Now, that being said, guys, I know we're at 3:30 here.
We do have um some producers came in under the executive producer level that we could thank over the last seven days.
Um, yep.
>> We could save them for Monday if you got a zoom out here or >> um, well, I think if I'm out of here in I got seven minutes, Basil.
>> Okay, we can do seven minutes. Here we go. Thank these producers. They came in under the executive promote uh, producer level, but we love them very much.
Starting with uh, producer Rebecca T.
>> Rebecca T, thank you.
>> Rebecca T came in twice over the past seven days. Came in once for 5432.
5432. Yeah.
>> And came in for 2345. 234.
>> Wow. She's having fun with those numbers. I love it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And Rebecca T is on a 27 episode streak.
>> Yeah, she is.
>> I know. We have still not shattered that highest and hardest glass ceiling, but someone will.
>> There you go. Firmament.
>> Next up, we got producer Marty not who came in for $40.77, >> Marty not. Thank you.
>> And Marty not sent a text message that says, "Just sent a little extra love gift in deepest gratitude and appreciation for you, dearest brothers.
I encourage you to make it a short show." This came in on Monday. Guns show >> or even day off. I got to take the day off. Did you Did you tell why I was gone on Monday?
>> Yeah. Your your time machine broke down in the time.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I was I was stranded out in the middle of nowhere. I was on a little Memorial Day trip and it broke down. So, >> um let's see here. Day off uh to rest and celebrate his love and mercy. I'm praying for you both and for Gansza's headache situation. Sincerely, Mart Marty Naser K. Thank you, Marty.
>> Thank you. Appreciate that.
MVH Truth came in and joined the supply drop at 3333.
>> All right.
>> Thank you, MVH Truth.
>> Go to Canary Christuppl.com, folks. That deadline's coming up. Uh Joel V came in and produced uh for 3333 plus fees.
>> There you go. Joel V. Illuminatus.
>> Illuminatus.
>> Joel sent a a bit of a long message here, but I'm going to I can blast through it. Says, "Hello, brothers.
Basil and Gons producer Joel V here after last Wednesday's show. Low donation numbers. I just had to chip in an extra pocket full of threes plus fees in addition to my monthly donation. I hope it helps. God bless you guys. I I love that God was uh speaking to a handful of people here to come in and produce after last week's sadness. Uh I hope it helps. It does help. I urge all listeners to donate any amount and level up to producer. That's right. Get demooched, folks. You'll get that bonus of the supply drop, too. With the recent mention of Demon Hunter and Christian Metal, I'd like to mention a podcast that I help produce for those of us that like our CCM, that's contemporary Christian music, hard and heavy.
Midnight Metal Monastery. Okay. Podcast Midnight Metal Monastery. Midnight Metal Monastery is where uh faith meets fury.
A sanctuary for those seeking spiritual depth and heavy rifts. We are the warrior monks of Christian rock slamming the jams that worship the lamb and serving the almighty God. I invite Canary Cry listeners to search for Midnight Metal Monastery in their favorite podcast app. Please leave a five-star rating and a review on Apple Podcast and do the same for CCNT while you're at it. Speaking of leaving rating and reviews, I was the lucky recipient of the most recent surplus supply drop prize from the Sir Ike rating and challenge. The contents of the box was incredible. Basil, when you say the supply drop boxes are cha block full, you are not exaggerating. DVDs, magnets, notebooks, stickers, t-shirts, CDs to name a few. My absolute favorite, the Gonzo Prayer Hands Cap. Anyone considering joining the supply drop will not be disappointed if they do. That's right, folks. Canaryupplyrop.com.
Go get on it. Godspeed. Godspeed to us all. in this most interesting times.
Cheers. May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. 2 Corinthians 13:14. Thank you, Joel. Wonderful.
>> Yeah. Thank you, Joel. Appreciate that.
>> Go check out that podcast.
>> Midnight Metal Monastery. Sounds like you're kind of jam guns.
>> Uh producer Michael Came in for a nice round number. Thank you very much, Michael C. Good reminder, if you come in and produce the show in any amount, if you're come in for a nice flat number on the 10 or the five, that's you telling us you'd prefer we don't disclose the amount. If you don't mind us disclosing the amount, do what a lot of these other producers do. Put 33 cents on there, 77 cents, 2345. Have some fun with the number. That's you telling us you don't mind us disclosing it. Uh, producer Joseph G went over to the Canary Cry T-shirt council and joined the Canary Cry T-shirt council for 1984 a month.
That's great. Canary t-shirt councsil.com. Go sign up, folks.
Deadlines on Sunday.
>> Yep.
>> Last but not least, Bruce W comes in for 1111. And >> Bruce, >> hilarious.
>> Bruce's hilarious note says, "This space intentionally left blank." Thank you very much.
And while I'm at it, uh, we had some people come in under $7.77, uh, which means they don't get a note right on the show. They usually come in for under that amount because they're keeping a streak going. So, we'll thank them. Keeping their streaks going. Dame Tinfoil Hat, Keeper of the Seeds, is on a 214 episode streak. Actually, that's >> She's on a streak.
>> It's going to be 15 episodes in a row, I think. Uh, and Sir Casey the Shield Knight, 630 episodes in a row.
Sir, the shield knight.
>> All right, we're going to get out of here in just a moment, but of course, we have some producers to thank who come in with their time. They help us with their skills. They dedicate their precious time to help us out on the backend stuff. Of course, thank you to the timestampers.
It's hard work.
>> Jade Bouncer, thank you for doing your time or the time stamps. Appreciate you so much. God bless you. A big shout out to the Canary Cry Tech team. Thank you guys for that. Thank you to Jam for heading up Telegram channel. Thank you to Adam42 for heading up the Discord channel. You can join the Telegram channel, the Discord channel, or Canary.com community. Get connected with other Canarians. It'll improve your life immensely. You just go to canercry.party to find all those links. Thank you to Joe for the feedback. Thank you sir Clank for doing everything you do for us. Sir Clank and >> uh and of course thank you to Sir Ike for doing everything you do folks. One last reminder for Sir Ike there. Go over to cageler coffee.com.
Again, deadlines on Sunday. Any 12 ounce bag or more that you order uh of the best coffee in the world, Cage Rattler Coffee, you're going to get a bunch of gold that comes with your coffee bags.
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