Foolios Killer Sean Gathright Takes Stand And Admits His Remorse Ahead Of His Sentencing

Añadido: 2026-05-22

[00:00:00]All right. After the verdict of Julio Fulio murder trial, which found all four suspects guilty of the murder, we got one of the suspects that a lot of people feel like was the most emotional one there. And although Sean Gaffright, who we about to watch right now on the stand, I guess taking responsibility for the murder. I guess that boy to actually admit to it. Who knows, right? But we know Shawn Gaffright was obviously one of the most emotional ones. Even at the end of the video, we seen of the verdict happening. We even seen that boy Sean Gaffright cry in that process. Bro, I want to say it was sad, but at the same time, it's like, bro, you just hard down ran up on somebody with a stick blowing through their window and you crying after you get found guilty. Now, what if you would have been found not guilty?

[00:00:47]What? Boy, you would have been cheesing hard as hell. And now to come to find out, you about to take full responsibility of the damn murder. Boy, people out here real deal thinking you was innocent. Boy, you was the only one out there with waves, Jerry curl, and you look like you wasn't even supposed to be there, brother. You feel me? But we all know how the situation could have took place. You know, when you when you get friends from the trenches, bro, you end up doing trench activities, bro.

[00:01:13]Even though, brother man, you ain't even I mean, he built like that, but you ain't built like that, bro. You feel me?

[00:01:18]Like, this comes with it. When you choose that lifestyle and them folk tell you guilty, you got to be reacting like DaVon Murphy up there. You know what I'm saying? DaVon had no damn remorse. He like, "Forget it." I remember in investigation room, first thing DaVon said was, "U from Allah come to Allah return." That boy ready to go back to the promised land. That boy trip, you know what I mean? But let's watch this video, guys.

[00:01:56]All right.

[00:02:03]>> Come on. Do you stand up? But they said all right. That mean everybody.

[00:02:12]The police, the judges, the the lawyers, everybody.

[00:02:24]All good. Very good.

[00:02:25]>> Okay. Very good. Everyone have a seat.

[00:02:27]All right. Uh Mr. Picklestein, your next witnesses.

[00:02:31]>> All right. Mr. Gary, please stand up.

[00:02:32]Raise your right hand.

[00:02:34]>> Do you testimony about his?

[00:02:39]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:02:40]>> Okay. Have a seat and you may continue.

[00:02:42]>> Thank you, honor.

[00:02:46]>> Please state your name for the record, sir. Spell your name for our court order.

[00:02:49]>> My name is Sean Gatright. S E A N G A T H R I G HT T.

[00:02:55]>> What's your date of birth?

[00:02:56]>> I was born on October 20th, 2005.

[00:03:00]>> Damn.

[00:03:01]>> Mr. Gabbert, you've heard um people speak here today on your behalf and yesterday. And I know that you wanted to um address the court and the jury.

[00:03:11]>> So, I would like to ask you what you want the jury to know.

[00:03:19]Yeah, I just want to address the court today and you know, I'm not here to dispute anything. I'm just here to be a man and take responsibility and express my feelings about what has, you know, this this whole situation.

[00:03:37]Um, you know, that's that's what I plan on doing.

[00:03:42]>> Okay. And How do you feel? What >> I feel very remorseful, you know. Um, this is a terrible situation. It's been a a traumatic experience. Um, you know, >> let me ask you this. So, how old were you when you were arrested?

[00:04:07]>> I was 18 years old.

[00:04:10]>> Um, we heard that you had started some college. Obviously, probably didn't get very far, right? Right.

[00:04:15]>> What have you done since you've been in jail? Is there programs? Are there things that you can do there?

[00:04:21]>> So, um, you know, I've I've gotten into programs. I've also, you know, I grew up, you know, in church and, you know, in a Christian household. Um, so I refocused my, you know, life to Christ.

[00:04:35]And, you know, I've taken a lot of religious programs. Um, I've read the Bible from cover to cover. Um, I've tried to, you know, share some word and, you know, we have prayer circles in the jail and stuff like that. I've led a couple, you know, prayer circles and, um, I've tried to, you know, kids around my age or, you know, younger, you know, since I'm 20 years old, now when you turn 18, you know, you go to the adult pods and stuff like that. So if I see somebody who I see, you know, has a lot of potential and has a chance to keep them from, you know, basically being able to be corrected at at this opportunity and not come back. You know, I try to take them under my wing. Um I, as you see, I have a lot of resources and a lot of family that love me. And they've even, you know, ask me like, "Hey, is there anybody in there who doesn't have somebody like that who, you know, could we send them some money?"

[00:05:28]Like, you know, anything like that. So, I've tried to, you know, be a a a a vessel for God to pour over my blessings into those around me. First off, I want y'all to clap it up for Sean, man.

[00:05:48]Right.

[00:05:49]All right. I'mma give it a be, man. I know there some people that ain't going to have no type sympathy for brother man, right? And I I I can understand you, right? But if if we speaking from a religious point of view, yeah, a lot of y'all may not look at this situation from a religious point of view or none of that. Y'all may not even look at the facts or uh of the case or basically his position in in general, bro. Like like I said at the beginning, bro, out of everybody, Sean Gathight seemed to be the most emotional one and probably one of them boys that was easily taken advantage of when he was legit. Like, let's keep it a bean. Le bro was 18 years old. Like, if we being real deal serious, little brother just stopped peeing on the toilet seat, literally.

[00:06:35]And went straight off in the field to do something right now. Imagine how many people done put it in his head like, "Oh yeah, bro. We got a bunch of bodies, bro. We never went to jail for it, bro.

[00:06:46]We super smart, bro. You won't get caught, bro. And you doing this for the hood, FAMO?

[00:06:54]LIKE YOU you putting on for the trenches, bro. You going to be like the king of the hill. Like putting it in his head. Let him feel like, bro, like you going to be the coolest dude walk in town if you catch this body, right? Cuz if we think about it, like brother man just was a look little white boy with a afro. You know what I'm saying? He got a little black in him or whatever. He look predominantly white though. And he don't look like one of those people who was just overly tough, taking people's snacks, stealing folks cornbread. Bro look like I don't want to say he innocent cuz he not innocent, but he looked like he was easily peer pressure.

[00:07:32]I'm going just put it like that. And the fact that, you know, he's saying that he's doing stuff like that in jail. You know, he became real close to Christ and stuff like that. And you know, due to me being real close to Christ as well, you know, some sometimes, bro, we got to be forgiven even when you don't want to forgive, right? Cuz I do feel like what what they did to uh Fio that that [ __ ] was disgusting, bro. You feel me? But when you know the trenches, you know why some people do certain things, right? So just I feel like, okay, they did that wrong. That's disgusting. I do understand how some young dudes be thinking, fam. I really know how what be in their head and how you know they operate. Especially when they done lost people, especially when casualties been taken from them. They don't care how dirty and nasty. I got to be back to other people. But I do want to say everybody has their own separate walk in life and everybody has their own calling. Who knows how Sean Gaffright is saying what he doing in there is helping the younger dudes. He feel like he could help out, putting people under his wing, bro. You never know. This could have been bro calling. bro made a decision and he still got to answer his calling even if it is behind closed doors, even if it is behind that sale, fam. And his calling is to change a individual's lives. And that could be what bro is trying to do. So I wouldn't even take that away from him. I don't know if he being 100% truthful or not, but I'm just saying based off of what I seen from start to end of this whole case. Even when they picked him up, even when he was scared, he didn't know what to do in the investigation room trying to climb out the damn roof. I knew he was a shm.

[00:09:02]You know what I'm saying? But I'm like, damn, what little bro done got itself into? And and then we see this all the time. We see little dudes get theirself into stuff that they know they shouldn't have been a part of. Like, bro, you know you shouldn't get caught up doing none of that, bro. But it end up happening.

[00:09:16]What do you do? Just give up on life?

[00:09:18]Just give up on everything. No, bro. You got to deal with whatever cause is dealt out to you, bro. You got to deal with it. There's people on the outs going through worse than what bro probably going through. You feel what I'm saying?

[00:09:26]But hey, man, I ain't going to lie. I just uh when he said that, I did feel some type of way, man. But let's keep watching. heard from Mr. Bonosca who said that, you know, in prison that there is opportunities um at times to be a mentor or you do orientations and peer-to-peer things like that. Um is that something that you'd be interested in doing?

[00:09:45]>> Of course. You know, I definitely want to, you know, try my absolute best to course correct anybody from falling down a path that they don't have to take, especially the youth. I feel like that's my calling that God has put on my heart to, you know, be a mentor to the youth and be a positive influence in in this world.

[00:10:08]>> Um, what about those relationships? Like you said, you have a lot of people. Are you able to maintain those relationships now?

[00:10:19]>> Yes. So, I mean, everybody who I, you know, maintain a relationship wasn't able to all be here today or, you know, even testify, but, you know, I talk to them daily, weekly, bi-weekly. You know, I have >> Oh, I did feel like I had to stop real quick, too, cuz I know it's, you know, a couple of y'all are probably wondering like, why is he even speaking? He's already found guilty. We don't care. We don't want to hear it. I want y'all to know the reason why Bro is talking right now is to avoid being put to death, right? He's trying to avoid being killed. I don't know if y'all know this or not, but y'all know they can be sentenced to death, right? Where they would have to be put down. So, by them speaking and basically, you know, expressing how they feel about the situation, showing that they care, you know, show some type of remorse, you know, that could work in their favor when it comes time to sentencing. And it's crazy. Y'all know they ain't even sentenced Alicia Andrews yet either.

[00:11:18]Bro, I don't even know what what the hell gonna happen over there. But I do want to see how what's gonna take place over there cuz that's crazy work. But um yeah, man. If y'all didn't know why he's talking, he's basically trying to avoid the death penalty.

[00:11:31]>> Cherish my my my supporters very deeply and I want to maintain relationship with them for the rest of my life.

[00:11:40]>> And I know, you know, we don't we're not going to talk about the case itself, right? And but you you said that you were taking accountability. You felt remorseful. Tell us what what you mean by that and what statement you want to make >> to the victim's family.

[00:11:56]You know, I I want to send my deepest condolences and my you know, I understand that it's hard losing a child, a best friend, a brother, a cousin, and for that, I just cannot say sorry enough. You know, I I I feel terrible about the situation.

[00:12:19]But I'm I'm a firm believer that God can use anything for good that the devil wanted for bad. And so I am grateful for the people I've met, for the lessons I've learned, for just the this experience in general because it's one that I'll never forget and it's going to shape the rest of my life.

[00:12:40]>> Sounds like there's that saying. It's kind of cheesy, but you make lemons out of lemonade or whatever. make lemonade.

[00:12:47]>> Lemonade out of lemons >> somehow. I obviously don't make lemonade, but it sounds to me like you are going to try and make the best of a a of a bad situation. Does that sound about right?

[00:12:58]>> Of course.

[00:12:59]>> And are you going to continue to do that?

[00:13:01]>> Of course, I'm going to try to, you know, continue a humble life, a righteous life, you know, try to do the right things at all times. And, you know, >> will you apprise yourself? We've heard about some, you know, courses and programs and things that you can get involved with to stay busy in prison. Is that something that you plan to do?

[00:13:21]>> Yeah. So, I, you know, hearing Rahul's testimony was, you know, the first glimpse that I have of, you know, what prison could be like. You know, I want to stay as busy as possible. You know, stay away from bad apples. you know, I want to like keep a job, get get into programs, try to get into any vocational things I can do, try to, you know, keep my record clean to, you know, go to the best incentivized things and have visits with my family. And, you know, I just want to just stay out the way, you know, I just want to make everything, you know, peaceful as as can be.

[00:13:59]>> So, even knowing that you're not getting out of prison, you want to make the best of your stay there.

[00:14:03]>> Of course. I mean, who wouldn't? If you're going to be somewhere for the rest of your life, why would you make your life a living hell >> and you're young, right? You're 20.

[00:14:12]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:14:14]>> Your honor, may I have a moment?

[00:14:15]>> Yes.

[00:14:16]>> I'll pass the witness. Okay.

[00:14:20]>> Yes.

[00:14:24]>> You would agree with me that Charles Jones was young, too, wasn't he?

[00:14:28]>> Relatively young. Yes, sir.

[00:14:29]>> Oh, man. But this way get to get hectic right here, y'all.

[00:14:34]Yeah, but we He He ain't trying to see no sympathy. Yeah, but Yeah, we get it.

[00:14:40]You young whooping and you you killed somebody that was young too, boy. You know, like I ain't going to lie, bro.

[00:14:48]We all have some type of guilt where uh we feel bad for others even if they did some crazy stuff, right? Especially when they showing, you know, they rem even if it could be cap, it could be faking, you know? But we human, bro. We human. So, um, I really want to know how y'all feel about, bro. You know, based off of this point of this video so far, let me know how y'all feel about Buddy. Like, right now, do y'all feel like bro is sincere and bro probably was taken advantage of, or do y'all feel like, bro, straight cap. You know, he just frying chicken because he know he cook. Let me know in the comment section right now. Type that right now and we going to continue.

[00:15:31]>> Right.

[00:15:31]>> Yes, sir. That's what the evidence showed us. Correct. You were sitting here watching that, correct? The evidence that came in over the last several weeks.

[00:15:37]>> I was right there.

[00:15:38]>> Yeah. And you want to take accountability now, correct? You want to take accountability now that this jury has found you guilty, correct?

[00:15:48]>> Yes, sir.

[00:15:49]>> Weeks after we went through a trial. Is that your testimony?

[00:15:53]>> Objection.

[00:15:54]>> Uh, I must sustain the objection.

[00:15:57]>> You indicated this was a traumatic experience.

[00:16:01]Is that right?

[00:16:02]>> Yes, sir.

[00:16:03]>> That's what you just testified to, correct?

[00:16:06]>> That's what I said.

[00:16:33]We just have one moment, your honor. I'm trying to get the all.

[00:16:35]>> Yes.

[00:16:56]Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Stage 25 C. You remember Gino Norris?

[00:17:02]>> Yes, sir.

[00:17:03]>> You remember him? He was also really young when this happened, wasn't he?

[00:17:07]>> I didn't know how old he was.

[00:17:09]>> Early 20s, 22. Would that surprise you?

[00:17:12]>> Um, no. It wouldn't surprise me.

[00:17:15]>> Yeah. Gino Norris, who's not a gang member, who's Charles Jones friend from the time they're children. That's the legal basis.

[00:17:27]>> Okay. Uh, come on up. Council >> 26 C Xavier Edwards.

[00:17:36]25 C Gino Norris.

[00:17:40]And you saw the autopsy photos of Charles Jones. My question to you is after you and your friends inflicted that carnage on June 23rd and as you were running stage 2 59C, this is actually you running to shoot them. But when you were running p back past that Tesla, were you feeling a lot of trauma at that point?

[00:18:10]It was so long ago. I try to not remember anything from that night.

[00:18:16]>> Were you remorseful as you were running back with that AR-15 in your hands?

[00:18:21]>> Like I said, I try to remember nothing from that night.

[00:18:24]>> Was it traumatic to you as you went back to the car with that AR-15? Was it still smoking? Was it still warm in your hands from firing it?

[00:18:33]>> Sustain the objection.

[00:18:36]>> Were you >> Did bro say was the gun still smoking?

[00:18:39]Was this still on fire when it was in your hand, my mans? What type of questions is is this you're asking, buddy?

[00:18:48]Like, clearly you ain't got no sympathy for old boy. But damn, type of questions is that. Oh, he trying to make him me trying to get up under his skin. That what he trying to do. He trying to get that boy pissed off.

[00:19:03]>> Were you feeling remorse as you were getting back into the Impala?

[00:19:07]Like I said, I just try to focus on today and moving forward.

[00:19:15]>> So the next day that Impala, that was your car. You drove that around, right? It was your mom's, but you drove that car, correct?

[00:19:24]>> Yes, sir. It was my mother's car.

[00:19:25]>> Right. And that was the car you drove from Jacksonville to Tampa in. Correct.

[00:19:30]>> I'm going to have Jack on the phone.

[00:19:32]>> I'm working to a point, your honor.

[00:19:33]>> Okay. Why don't we just get there?

[00:19:35]>> All right. So this car, this Impala that you drove from Jacksonville to Tampa in with Mr. Chance and Miss Andrews, the one that you drove in tandem with with the Silver Cruise, the same car that you utilized to drive the assault team, the shooting team which you were a part of that night. That same car that you drove around Tampa in the early morning hours for several hours tracking, stalking, and hunting Charles Jones and his entourage.

[00:20:06]>> Sustain.

[00:20:07]>> That same Impala, you drove that to Pulk County the next day and you dropped it at your grandmother's house, right? The same grandmother who came in here last night and testified for you. Correct.

[00:20:19]>> Um, go ahead. You can answer that question.

[00:20:22]>> Isn't that correct?

[00:20:23]>> What is the question? You dropped the Impala, the one that had all of these shooters in it. The one that was utilized in this murder that was such a vital cog in this plan. You dropped it at your grandmother's house in Auburnale, didn't you?

[00:20:39]>> I'm here to testify about today.

[00:20:42]>> Are you going to answer that question or are you going to avoid it?

[00:20:45]>> Because that's not what I asked what you were doing here today. I think we all understand what you're here to do today, >> what you're testifying about. I'm asking you specifically about your remorse.

[00:20:56]Were you remorseful when you dropped that car off and left it at your grandmother's house in Auburnale?

[00:21:05]>> I did go to my grandmother's house.

[00:21:07]>> Were you feeling remorse when you hugged her and got into the 4ERunner and left her with the impala after you wiped it down?

[00:21:17]Sir, I'm just telling you that today I would like to express my remorse to the family to the court.

[00:21:23]>> I understand what you're trying to do today. I'm asking you since you're trying to convince this jury that you're remorseful, were you feeling remorse >> that next day or later that day?

[00:21:34]>> I don't remember these days in detail how I was feeling, what I was thinking.

[00:21:40]>> What about later that night when you went to Orlando? Were you feeling remorse when you were out partying at Club Parlay, celebrating what you had done that day?

[00:21:49]>> That was my sister's birthday party.

[00:21:52]>> What? Did Did you feel any remorse while you were drinking Don Julio tequila and putting that in your video and throwing gang signs?

[00:22:01]>> I mean, it do sound like he being an [ __ ] but he's actually right though, bro. Like, bro, he right though, bro.

[00:22:08]Like, he do got a point, you know? Just like I be seeing some people say uh they don't believe Jesus until they damn there is damn there about to pass out then say Jesus help me please. You know it's like you know as humans we all go through these situations right and sometimes it does take the law or any type of you know higher power to make you snap back into reality. So even though he does, you know, have a point, it don't take away the fact that this situation right here, you know, justice being served right now, I don't think that the fact that he didn't give a damn when he went to his sister party means he don't give a damn now. I feel like bro cares now. Although he may have didn't care then, you know, cuz then bro was feeding into all like have I know a lot of y'all ain't ever been in the streets before. So y'all sometimes don't even know how it feels sometimes to, you know, be in a situation where uh like folk you done handled up. You done did what you had to do to get some appreciation in your hood. You know, walking around with that type of, you know, popularity, you know, give you some big ass kahunas. It make you feel good. It make you feel like, hell, I don't give a damn about the other side.

[00:23:17]I don't care. Let that let that dude m love him. You hear me? I ain't got a lover until you snap back into reality.

[00:23:25]You know what I'm saying? And somebody got to punch you in your [ __ ] and then you realize, oh damn. You know, the lifestyle that I thought was real and that I felt like, oh yeah, the love was real deal. Genuine. I I'm starting to realize all of that [ __ ] was fabricated. I was being told the false story. You know what I'm saying? And this is what Sean Gaffright could be going through. I just can't go past the fact that bro was only 18. Bro was really a juvenile, really a baby. and and off top his first ever adult charge.

[00:23:52]His first ever walk into reality is killing somebody. Bro, the bro ain't even have time for his penile gland.

[00:23:59]What is called your penile gland to kick in and that kick in around what 25? So, bro was really a dummy. So, I could assume at his sister boy, he didn't have no remorse. Of course, the dude was probably booted up. He on good Don Julio. He felt like he was one of the biggest smackers in the world. And now, look, the law was putting him in his place. So now his ass is waking up like, "Oh [ __ ] I thought I was him, but I ain't really that for real, [ __ ] I I I wasn't built for this part of the [ __ ] that everybody was telling me. Y'all told me I was going to be the king of the hill. Now [ __ ] telling me when to get up, when to go pee, when to go take a shower, when to wipe my ass. Now I'm getting treated like [ __ ] >> I'm here about today. Sir, >> I We've all seen the evidence. We've all reviewed >> Mr. Mr. It's not time for you now to make speeches. You've politely answered your council's questions. Can you not answer the state's questions? Is there something about my question you don't understand?

[00:24:56]>> I was getting to >> I'm sorry, Mr. Gather. I called you Mr. Chance. Excuse me.

[00:25:01]>> I was I was getting to my answer. Um, like I said, I I've seen all the evidence. I >> Well, we've all seen all the evidence.

[00:25:12]>> Yes, sir.

[00:25:13]>> That's true. And after all that evidence came in and this jury based their true verdict on that convicting you, now you're taking accountability. Is that correct?

[00:25:22]>> Sustain the objection. I think the question on the table was remorse about in Orlando. Okay, >> it is your honor.

[00:25:29]>> You just need to answer that question.

[00:25:31]>> So I'm going to ask you very specifically. Okay, so try to focus with a laser beam here. Mr. Gath, right?

[00:25:39]Were you feeling remorse when you were in Club Parlay in Orlando drinking Don Julio? Were you feeling remorse for what you did earlier that day?

[00:25:48]>> I don't remember how I was feeling or what I was thinking.

[00:25:51]>> Were you feeling remorse when you got pulled over in the Forerunner a couple of days later by the police?

[00:25:57]>> I don't remember. I was nervous. I mean, I had never been involved in any police.

[00:26:02]Were you feel any remorse when you were unloading the Impala and putting all of that evidence into the Forerunner? Did you feel remorse?

[00:26:12]>> Sir, I told you I don't remember how I was feeling or what I was thinking in those days.

[00:26:19]>> Mr. Gathright, you have led, you would agree with me, an extremely privileged life, haven't you?

[00:26:28]>> Yes, sir.

[00:26:28]>> You would agree with that, correct?

[00:26:30]>> I would.

[00:26:30]>> You've had a loving mother. Correct.

[00:26:32]>> Yes, sir.

[00:26:33]>> A loving sister. Correct.

[00:26:34]>> Yes, sir.

[00:26:36]>> You've had two wonderful grandmothers.

[00:26:39]Correct.

[00:26:41]>> Yes, sir.

[00:26:41]>> You would agree with me, right?

[00:26:43]>> I couldn't deny that.

[00:26:44]>> One of which probably, I'm assuming, sacrificed and paid for you to go to that private school, that preparatory school. Correct.

[00:26:53]>> Um, it wasn't paid. It was a magnet program, so I had to apply. And it was a lottery system. It was a lottery system.

[00:27:01]Okay. So, it was a magnet.

[00:27:03]>> Yes, sir.

[00:27:03]>> All right. She supported you going there, did she not?

[00:27:07]>> Everybody did.

[00:27:08]>> Gave you open use of her house, welcomed you, treated you, and um parented you basically, didn't she?

[00:27:15]>> Yes, sir.

[00:27:16]>> Took care of you when your parents were deployed. Correct.

[00:27:19]>> Uh yes, sir. At the time, I was living with my grandmother. Um both of my parents had been either retired or uh out out of the military. I was just living there more so um I needed a change of scenery and my relationship with my father wasn't sustainable.

[00:27:39]>> Okay. This is when you're in Oxford with your grandmother.

[00:27:42]>> Yes, sir.

[00:27:42]>> The the nice lady we saw earlier came in here.

[00:27:45]>> Yes, sir.

[00:27:45]>> The one that has supported you and spoke so lovingly about you. Correct.

[00:27:49]>> Yes, sir. And so you went to this preparatory school and whether you got in there through a lottery or not, you would agree with me not everybody gets to go to a school like that. Correct.

[00:27:59]>> Uh the the lottery school that the magnet school I went to was in middle school when I was living in Jacksonville. The school I went to uh in Oxford, it was just a public high school.

[00:28:08]>> A public high school. Okay. My mistake.

[00:28:10]So you went to that preparatory school in Jacksonville.

[00:28:13]>> Yes, sir.

[00:28:14]>> But again, that school was not something that every kid gets to go to, right?

[00:28:18]>> Oh, sir. Not every kid gets to have a counselor and a role model like Mr. Edwards. Correct.

[00:28:24]>> No sir. I was very blessed.

[00:28:25]>> And not many children get to fly in planes with their stepfather. Correct.

[00:28:32]>> Uh no sir.

[00:28:33]>> And and fly around in Asia and get to see islands off the coast of Okinawa.

[00:28:39]Correct.

[00:28:40]>> No sir.

[00:28:41]>> Very blessed.

[00:28:42]>> Very. You are very blessed, aren't you?

[00:28:44]>> Yes sir.

[00:28:45]>> And not every kid gets to go to Scotland, right? No sir.

[00:28:48]>> Or Ireland?

[00:28:50]>> No sir.

[00:28:50]>> Or Paris?

[00:28:51]>> No sir.

[00:28:52]>> Or London?

[00:28:53]>> No sir.

[00:28:53]>> Or Spain?

[00:28:54]>> No sir.

[00:28:56]>> Cape Town or Johannesburg or both >> in South Africa?

[00:29:00]>> Cape Town.

[00:29:01]>> Cape Town. Beautiful city, right?

[00:29:03]>> You got to go experience that when you were growing up. Correct.

[00:29:06]>> I did.

[00:29:06]>> Because you had such loving people around you supporting you. Correct.

[00:29:10]>> Yes, sir.

[00:29:10]>> In fact, your grandmother went with you on that trip, did she not? Or not on that one, but on the ones to Europe.

[00:29:16]Correct. Yes, sir. Yeah. Yes, sir.

[00:29:18]>> And we heard you got to meet up with your sister in one of those trips.

[00:29:21]Correct.

[00:29:21]>> I did. I had the privilege.

[00:29:23]>> So, you always had someone there taking care of you and you always had good, strong male role models, including people at your grandmother's church and your stepfather, Mr. Harrington.

[00:29:34]Correct.

[00:29:35]>> I had uh male role models in my life growing up.

[00:29:40]Um, but in my more formative years, more so 16 to 18, I didn't I did not have a relationship with my father. And the male role models that came and testified, they were present, but not intimately as whenever I was younger, maybe middle school years. Um, but when I when I turned around 16 to 18, it was the females that actually had that that caregiving and, you know, nurturing relationship with me. But, >> thank you for clarifying that. I appreciate it. So, >> towards towards the more recent years, >> I didn't have that one-on-one and very close relationship with, you know, those male role models in my life. You know, you heard my stepfather say, you know, after the divorce, >> I I did hear that, Mr. Chance. Let me stop you, okay, and go back to my question. I'm sorry, >> Mr. Gather.

[00:30:39]>> I'm sorry. I keep calling you that, Mr. Gather. Um, let me go back to what you said earlier, between 16 and 18, you didn't have a male role model. Is that what you're telling the jury? I'm not saying I didn't have any male role models, but daytoday, you know, young men need strong.

[00:30:59]>> That's not what I asked. I asked if you had a male role model between 16 and 18.

[00:31:04]>> I had a figure that I could go to, but not intimately.

[00:31:10]>> Mr. Edwards, right?

[00:31:12]>> Yes, sir.

[00:31:12]>> He had stayed in contact with you even when you graduated into high school.

[00:31:16]Correct.

[00:31:17]>> Uh, yes. Yes, sir. We we definitely maintained a relationship, but >> And he seemed to be pretty enthusiastic about that, right?

[00:31:25]>> Yes, sir. Yes.

[00:31:25]>> In fact, you went on a cruise with him at some point, did you not?

[00:31:28]>> Yeah, when I was younger. Yes. We had a very close relationship.

[00:31:31]>> And then from what you're saying, if I understand it right, the females, I'm assuming you're talking about your grandmothers and your mom >> stepped into the gap.

[00:31:41]>> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It was grandmother's, mother, sister. So, let me let me get see if I got this right.

[00:31:48]When you were being brought up and you were being brought up by a mother who was enlisted or an officer in the military, an officer, wasn't she?

[00:31:56]>> Uh, I don't know exactly what her rank is. I know she was a sergeant, >> but in the Marine Corps.

[00:32:03]>> Yes, sir. She was in the Marine Corps.

[00:32:05]>> All right. And then you had a stepfather who was in the Air Force, right?

[00:32:09]>> Yeah. He was Yeah, he was >> from the time you were three all the way up to when they divorced in 2020. Yes, sir.

[00:32:15]>> All right. They taught you right from wrong, correct?

[00:32:20]>> Yes, sir.

[00:32:21]>> And we heard that from your grandmother, right?

[00:32:22]>> Yes, sir. Yes, of course. Yes, sir.

[00:32:24]>> Miss Lyall, she told you she told us the same thing, >> right?

[00:32:28]>> They brought you up in the church. They taught you about the Ten Commandments.

[00:32:32]They taught you about right from wrong, did they not?

[00:32:34]>> They did.

[00:32:35]>> All right. And they were excellent role models about living their living your life in a disciplined, honest, and right way. Correct. And being law-abiding.

[00:32:45]Correct.

[00:32:46]>> They really didn't have to worry about me. You know, I >> Well, let me just answer my question.

[00:32:51]Would you agree with what I'm telling you >> that they were excellent role models of how to live a moral life?

[00:32:57]>> Yes, sir. I They definitely instilled the foundation.

[00:33:04]>> May I have one moment, your honor?

[00:33:05]>> Yes.

[00:33:08]>> Have nothing else, your honor. Okay.

[00:33:10]Read.

[00:33:17]Mr. Gather, despite living I think I did that.

[00:33:23]Despite having what you called it a blessed upbringing, you still find yourself here today, right?

[00:33:29]>> Unfortunately.

[00:33:30]>> Um, where you had lived, we heard about Mississippi. And was Jacksonville different than where you had lived previously?

[00:33:38]Jacksonville was unlike any other city that I've been lived in or visited or any other country. The cultures, the neighborhoods, the people, it's completely different.

[00:33:52]>> And how old were you when you kind of started experiencing that culture shock?

[00:33:56]>> Um, so I moved when I moved to Jacksonville, I was about 9 or 10 years old. Um, you know, I didn't really know much about what the streets were, quote unquote, the streets were. Um, it was more whenever I got to high school and I wanted to leave the magnet school that I was at, I wanted to be at more of a neighborhood school to be around the people I grew up with cuz at the magnet schools, it's 30 45 minutes away. I, you know, didn't really know anybody that I wasn't as close as the people who I grew up with. Um, so around high school, that's when I started hearing about, you know, and seeing, you know, the different things like, you know, the drugs and people dying and, you know, stuff like that. And I was caught completely off guard, but I was curious like, what is what is this? you know, listening to the music, like I was just like caught off guard.

[00:34:54]Like I'd never experienced something like that, especially living in Japan and, you know, living in different states around the world. I mean, or in the in the country just it didn't have what Jacksonville had.

[00:35:07]>> And we've heard from a lot of people that knew you, >> you know. It's crazy to hear that though, man, cuz it's like it's exactly what what I assumed, right? It's like bro was so intrigued. And I ain't going to lie, if you ain't come from a street background and then you go to the hood, fam, the hood is like the happiest dark place ever. If that make any type sense, fam. All you do walk around. I'm talking about big booties, you know what I'm saying? Auntie them, they grilling over there, you feel me? Aunt them posted in front of the grocery store. Folks selling Nick bags, folks selling pills.

[00:35:47]Hell, you know, ANT them got their wine cooler set up while they sitting drinking their little drink. You know, nighttime come, we got the young dudes pulling up to the gas station, hopping in anybody car, pulling off, and then you just laughing cuz it's so funny.

[00:36:02]It's like it's dark laughter and it it gets fun. Especially if you ain't never been around that environment, you'll think that it's so fun and you'll get so locked in to what's going on, not realizing, bro, all of this [ __ ] is bad, bro. Like, bro, all of this [ __ ] negative, bro.

[00:36:22]But it's fun. And it's like the way he talking is like, damn, bro. I started listening to the music, you know? I ain't even want to go to the program no more cuz the program was lame. Folks from my neighborhood was telling me I'm lame for wearing a collar shirt to school. I'm trying to go to the public school. I'm trying to bust down on a thick shortest. I'm trying to hang out and go and go get me a scrap.

[00:36:48]My parents are in the military. We got a bunch of guns at the you know like bro was really trying to fit in and it's like damn for to see him in this situation it is tough. I think it's been a pretty consistent theme that you were mature and you know smart and interested in things. Um but you were still what how old around that time?

[00:37:09]>> Um I was 14 15 you know I definitely would consider myself to be smart and you know mature for my age but >> still curious.

[00:37:18]>> I was still a I was still a young boy you know I still am a young man.

[00:37:22]>> You think you were kind of impressionable? I was definitely I would characterize myself as you know at times being naive, gullible, impressionable and yeah.

[00:37:36]>> And so despite that upbringing, are you finding yourself, you know, you're in a different culture now, but you still want to be as successful as you can?

[00:37:47]>> Yes. So being in the jail, you know, I'm, you know, I'm by myself, especially in a city so far away, I don't know anybody.

[00:37:55]So I took this time to focus back in on myself and just get back to the basics.

[00:38:01]You know, what I know, you know, and without anybody being in my ear or influencing me, you know, I cut out the noise, you know, there's not many distractions in jail. You know, it's the same thing every day. So I started to work out and you know programs try to educate myself more plan you know stuff like that. I actually everybody asks themselves or everybody asked God for things you know what we want from what we what we want God to do for us but a lot of the times we don't ask what God wants from us. And so I've asked God that question you know what do you want from me? you know, I I'm asking all these things from you. What do you want from me? And he told me that he's calling me like I feel like my calling or what he told me was to be there for the youth. Serve the youth, keep them from going down similar paths cuz there's a better way. And it's the streets is not the way. The streets are not the way. even having everything trips and privilege and church and grandmas and you still can find yourself going down a wrong path. Right.

[00:39:13]>> Objection leading >> uh >> and you feel that that's your calling?

[00:39:22]>> Yes. I want >> objection nonresponsive.

[00:39:26]>> Um well, I think it's more asked and answered, but you can go ahead and answer. Just yes or no.

[00:39:33]just answer. Yes, you >> what you were describing.

[00:39:37]>> Yes. Yes, I I do.

[00:39:40]>> Um >> I would like to I'm sorry. You >> just got to wait for a question. Okay, Mr. Gather.

[00:39:47]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:39:53]>> No further questions.

[00:39:54]>> All right. When it come to Sean Gaffright, man, what do you guys think?

[00:40:01]lock in on this one. What do y'all think about Sean Gaffright and basically this whole little interview that we just witnessed? What do you guys really think? Let me know in the comments section.