Chief Tries to Shut Him Down… Citizen Refuses to Leave Public Property!

Añadido: 2026-05-31

[00:00:00]I recorded this. We recorded interactions.

[00:00:02]>> How's it going?

[00:00:03]>> Um, so Olivia told me that she came out here and talked to you, correct? Yep.

[00:00:06]>> Okay. And what did she ask you?

[00:00:08]>> She asked us to leave.

[00:00:08]>> Okay. And did she provide you with the rules and regulations at the US Post Office?

[00:00:12]>> No, we're allowed to be here. It's government property.

[00:00:14]>> So, it's what?

[00:00:15]>> Government property to the public.

[00:00:17]>> Did she provide you with the rules and regulations?

[00:00:20]>> I didn't see any.

[00:00:20]>> Let me go grab those for you that it does say on there that there is no listing or there is no uh getting signatures on post office property. I'll go get that paper.

[00:00:29]>> That doesn't trump the US Constitution, though.

[00:00:31]>> So, I'm going to go get this piece of paper for you to let you know.

[00:00:33]>> Even if I see I'm not leaving.

[00:00:34]>> Give me one second.

[00:00:35]>> I'm still not leaving. So, >> I really don't care what that paper says. I already know we have the right to be here.

[00:00:44]I'm not trying to be rude to anybody, but I'm not going right trampled on.

[00:00:48]>> It's a first amendment protected activity. There's plenty of case law.

[00:00:51]Supreme Court's rule this already. I mean, >> the post coastal master has has uh >> they have rules that say, "Oh, you can't film in here, too, but you're allowed to go film in there." I mean, it doesn't the their policy doesn't trump the law, you know. It's >> a little different. I agree.

[00:01:10]>> It's different than No, it's not. That's not what I'm referring to. What I'm referring to is the aspect of going in and filming. The encounter begins outside a post office as a citizen journalist records openly on public property. Calm but firm, the cameraman explains that he is documenting interactions in a public space protected under the First Amendment. Postal employees quickly grow uncomfortable and request police assistance, claiming customers feel uneasy being filmed. Officers arrive and immediately pressure a man to leave, warning him about possible arrest.

[00:01:46]Instead of backing down, the cameraman points directly to Poster 7 regulations posted inside the building, insisting the rules clearly allow photography in publicly accessible postal lobbies and entrances.

[00:02:00]>> You can do any protected you can do any first amendment activity on the post office.

[00:02:04]>> You can stand here and protest. I can stand here and do a government petitions.

[00:02:12]Oh man, you got time on your way out.

[00:02:17]>> You guys came here last week and did the same thing.

[00:02:21]>> Not you personally, but the police came here last week and told the other guys the same thing and they actually told the postmaster they could stay cuz that cop actually seemed to know the law.

[00:02:28]>> Well, that was this officer and the postmaster at that time had indicated to him that as long as there wasn't any complaints that they received from people coming and going.

[00:02:41]>> Gotcha. Um, and apparently now they feel that they've had some complaints. So that's why he's checking in.

[00:02:46]>> We've only been here 15 minutes. So >> gentlemen, I just got here too.

[00:02:49]>> I know. I'm not trying to be rude to you at all. I appreciate your service. I know what you guys go through.

[00:02:52]>> So, but I think he's wasting his time by trying to show me this policy cuz I really don't care what that says. I already know what the constitution says, you know.

[00:03:02]>> Okay.

[00:03:03]>> I don't I don't need that. I don't need that.

[00:03:05]>> So, I just talked to Olivia and she said that she did put you on warning for trespassing. Okay, >> I talked to the attorneys with the US Post Office and they said that this is the rules and regulations concerning postal private property.

[00:03:17]>> As tensions rise, the discussion shifts from simple recording to constitutional rights. One officer incorrectly describes the United States Postal Service as a private entity, while the cameraman repeatedly explains that postal buildings are government property open to the public. The officers insist he leave after employees complain, but the cameraman states he will only comply under threat of arrest. He emphasizes that filming on public property is protected activity under freedom of the press. Even while disagreeing with police, he remains relatively composed, asking for supervisors and encouraging officers to actually read the posted regulations before escalating the situation further.

[00:03:58]>> The regulations are >> okay.

[00:04:00]>> So, she said that she would like you off the property. She's going to come let you know right now.

[00:04:04]>> Not happening.

[00:04:04]>> That she would like you off the property.

[00:04:05]>> You have every right to be here.

[00:04:06]>> Okay. I'm going to go get her to have you or let you know that.

[00:04:11]>> What's your name and badge number to Clark?

[00:04:13]>> I am Chief Clark with the Boytown Police Department.

[00:04:16]>> So, you're chief?

[00:04:16]>> I am the chief of police.

[00:04:18]>> And you don't know that we have a right to be here?

[00:04:20]>> I do know that uh there are c certain stipulations under the US code that does not allow you guys to do this particular thing. You can be on the sidewalks. you can be on the sidewalks over there doing your petitions, but these petitions uh stipulate >> uh the US code that you cannot do the signature petitions >> on their properties.

[00:04:40]>> That's not the law.

[00:04:42]>> You know the Supreme Court rule that we can do this, right?

[00:04:44]>> I do know that there is a Supreme Court ruling. Uh but that is in conjunction to uh older buildings.

[00:04:51]>> No, any government building, DMV.

[00:04:53]>> Okay.

[00:04:54]>> Any government property.

[00:04:55]>> Okay.

[00:04:56]>> You're a chief. You should know that, man. about there.

[00:04:59]>> I don't mind a a simple lawsuit against Boytown Police. It'll be a slam dunk.

[00:05:02]It'll be a settlement. Make you guys look bad.

[00:05:04]>> That's your choice. That's your prerogative. We're trying.

[00:05:06]>> It's not my choice. I'm trying to No, you're trying to violate our rights.

[00:05:09]>> Work this out as best we can.

[00:05:10]>> No, you're trying to violate our rights.

[00:05:11]We have a right to be here. This is a government building. It's open to the public. This is a First Amendment protect activities to >> Moments later, a supervisor arrives and the cameraman carefully explains his side of the story. He claims he entered peacefully, briefly asked about passport services, and began documenting publicly accessible areas. According to him, employees immediately confronted him without first understanding the law. He accuses one officer physically grabbing and escort him outside despite no crime being committed. standing on the sidewalk now. He points again toward poster 7 regulations inside the post office, arguing they explicitly permit photography in foyers and corridors. The supervisor listens closely while officers continue defending the trespass warning issued against the moments earlier. It's still a rights violation.

[00:06:00]If you want to arrest me, arrest me, but I'm not leaving. I'm doing my job. I'm being respectful. I haven't harassed a single person. I've locked the door.

[00:06:06]I've been very polite to every single person I talked to.

[00:06:09]>> We've been here for what, 15 minutes?

[00:06:10]>> Yep. Um, so as acting postmaster of this station, we're not allowed to be here on our property.

[00:06:18]>> We are allowed to be here.

[00:06:19]>> Um, the rules and regulations say no.

[00:06:21]>> That doesn't the constitution has more power than that.

[00:06:24]>> Um, so just so you're aware that you're not allowed to collect signatures on postal property.

[00:06:28]>> I'm aware of your opinion.

[00:06:30]>> Postal property is public property, right?

[00:06:33]>> Is postal property public property? No.

[00:06:36]>> Right.

[00:06:37]>> I'm asking a question. There's postal property, public property.

[00:06:41]>> This is police town property, >> which is public public.

[00:06:46]>> You'll get an education. I mean, it's fine.

[00:06:49]>> We can get arrested if that's what you guys really want to do >> in this.

[00:06:52]>> Okay. And you don't want to arrest anybody. So, >> well, then leave us alone.

[00:06:55]>> We'll be done.

[00:06:57]>> Trying to be respectful to you guys, but I'm not >> We'll be excun.

[00:07:05]>> She has no right to tell us to leave for what we're doing. She has no right to tell us to leave.

[00:07:09]>> Come on now.

[00:07:11]>> She does in accordance to the US code.

[00:07:13]>> No, we didn't break any laws.

[00:07:15]>> You can't be a trespass on public property.

[00:07:17]>> The supervising sergeant attempt to clarify the department position by referencing disorderly conduct and interference rules listed within postal regulations. He explains that causing discomfort or disrupting customer business could justify police action inside the lobby. The cameraman immediately pushes back, arguing he never blocked entrances, interrupted services, or raised his voice. He says employees approached him first and escalated the encounter unnecessarily.

[00:07:45]According to him, simply holding a camera cannot legally become disorderly conduct. The debate turns into a broader clash between public officials prioritizing customer comfort and a citizen insisting constitutional protections remain stronger than agency policies or employee opinions >> property >> which is public.

[00:08:04]>> And I talked to an attorney for the US post office.

[00:08:08]>> And they said that this rules and regulations she provided specifically say in here >> um I'll let you see this.

[00:08:15]>> It could say you can't wear a green shirt too but it doesn't change anything. It doesn't mean it's a law. I don't care what it says.

[00:08:20]and collecting signatures or petitions are prohibited on post office postal service.

[00:08:25]>> Just cuz it prints out doesn't mean anything. The constitution says it's not. That's that's just a piece of paper. The Constitution the Supreme Court has ruled several times, guys.

[00:08:32]Come on. You know this.

[00:08:33]>> So, I did talk to the attorney.

[00:08:34]>> I'm not leaving.

[00:08:36]Okay. So, can I talk to him real quick, too?

[00:08:43]>> I know. All right.

[00:08:45]>> What's your name in deputy chief guilt?

[00:08:49]>> You know, you already know.

[00:08:53]>> Did Olivia let you know what is going on? I already know what I'm doing.

[00:08:57]>> You guys have a good day.

[00:09:08]>> I'm not stepping a foot out here unless I've committed a crime, which I'm not going to do.

[00:09:18]about the pull up.

[00:09:30]>> The supervising sergeant attempt to clarify the department position by referencing disorderly conduct and interference rules listed within postal regulations. He explains that causing discomfort or disrupting customer business could justify police action inside the lobby. The cameraman immediately pushes back, arguing he never blocked entrances, interrupted services, or raise his voice. He says employees approached him first and escalated the encounter unnecessarily.

[00:09:59]According to him, simply holding a camera cannot legally become disorderly conduct. The debate turns into a broader clash between public officials prioritizing customer comfort and a citizen insisting constitutional protections remain stronger than agency policies or employee opinions.

[00:10:19]It's pretty scary that the chief himself is so uneducated on law. He's going to cost his own city a ton of money and look foolish on YouTube.

[00:10:27]>> They have private property.

[00:10:29]>> Well, they're idiots. Not not the cop, but that lady's an idiot.

[00:10:31]>> Well, I mean, they're here. They don't even know it's that it's a public property.

[00:10:39]>> You guys can't even arrest YouTubers that go in there and video everybody and they get told to leave, too. You guys can't arrest them either. So, it makes you think that this is getting worse.

[00:10:50]>> In the final moments, the disagreement remains unresolved, but the cameraman continues assert his rights while officers gradually back away from immediate enforcement. The sergeant explains that if future complaints continue, postal inspectors may become involved, though he admits the sidewalk and lobby are public areas. The cameraman refuses to provide identification, reminding officers that public servants are accountable, while private citizens are not required to identify themselves without lawful cause. As police begin leaving, the cameraman criticizes the officers for nearly escalating the situation into an unlawful arrest, warning viewers that constitutional rights only survive when ordinary citizens understand and actively defend