In political debates, claims about fraud and corruption must be supported by specific evidence and data rather than general accusations; the speaker demonstrates how a guest's own sources (New York Post, FBI raids, House Oversight Committee) actually contradict his claims about Democrats allowing fraud, showing that evidence-based analysis reveals the complexity of political issues and that fraud exists across all political affiliations.
Deep Dive
Prerequisite Knowledge
- No data available.
Where to go next
- No data available.
Deep Dive
UNEDUCATED MAGA Man Proves Himself Wrong With His OWN SOURCEAdded:
Why do you support Trump?
Uh it's less it's less so about, you know, Trump specifically and more so um ideological and um policies. I'll split it up. I'll go uh the the border.
I'll go um international policies, foreign policy, and uh social programs.
What about the social programs?
I don't personally believe in uh in going overboard with social programs. I think that um in an ideal society, in an ideal world, it's it's good, but um there's just too much fraud. It it doesn't work out. What's What's a percentage fraud rate would be too much fraud?
I think any any amount of fraud. I mean, I especially Any amount of fraud? So, get rid of all federal programs because inevitably there'll be some proportional level of fraud. Like including defense contract the the I mean, our defense budget. We should get rid of our defense budget because there's some level of fraud in our defense budget.
No. And and Okay, so you don't believe that now.
So, then would you like to tell me specifically what percentage level fraud, at least you estimate based upon the top of your head, that you would be like, "Okay, now this level of fraud is too much that we should totally get rid of this program."
I'm not going >> Rather than just reform it.
I'm not going to give you a perfect Yes.
Yes. You know, if we could uh reform it in a way that actually worked out, then then I would be on board with it.
>> Oh, okay. Wait. Hold up. Well, then it seems like we agree. You can advocate for more policies to help out people in need and for social mobility and for these programs to ensure a baseline for everyone while simultaneously saying we should go after the fraud because anytime there's fraud, that's taking away from actually helping people. So, I want to go after the fraud as much as you do, but often times people on the right are weaponizing this idea of quote-unquote going after the fraud when inevitably speaking they're creating conditions for Trump to engage in more fraud and continually supporting him doing so. So, I just want to clarify, if you care about fraud, if you care about corruption within our government, there's literally no possible fathom or fathomable way that you can justify supporting Trump over Harris.
Like at least in the prior election in retrospect. My point of view is that Okay, I'm not going to sit here and say that fraud doesn't exist in in red states because certainly it does and there have been recent examples in the Trump administration where they have tackled fraud in in states such as Texas and Alabama. Um, but I think that from what I see fraud exists on a much higher level in states such as Minnesota, California, and >> your what's your resources that demonstrate that because I based on numbers I've seen on overall fraud rate, Florida has a higher per capita rate of fraud comparative to both Minnesota and California. And they have tackled it and and they are tackling it.
Well, Minnesota's like a safe haven for fraud. I just want to let you know, like they have certain laws on the books that fraudsters will go to will go to Florida in order to be able to not get prosecuted for fraud.
One more time? Yeah, there are certain things on certain things on the books in the context of Florida where fraudsters will go to Florida in order to be able to evade prosecution.
Well, you can say the same with California and Minnesota. I mean, I've seen nothing to see that that's true with California and Minnesota.
>> what about the recent >> What you guys are claiming is like NGO fraud that you think is through the context of like >> the recent FDA social programs in Minnesota and in California. But what I would say is that this is true across the entire United States, not specific to those states because there are these programs in all of these different states and also it's something that we all need to address, investigate, and and manage and not a specific partisan thing.
Yes, I agree that it's something that all states have to address, but I'll I'm going to do the research like you said on Florida. I'm going to give you the benefit of doubt there, but what I see is I think a lot of these politicians in in these blue states such as Minnesota and California, they it just looks like they're involved in it. It really does. I'm not making any accusations.
Um but from the outside looking in it it just it's a terrible look and uh there were recent FBI raids in Minnesota and they confirmed the government confirmed whether you you believe it or not. Um the hospices in California they had to literally shut up shut off funding to these hospices in California.
Okay, you know that that happens all around the country.
Like if there's fraud in those certain areas. And I would love to see if there's a source specifically like I I'd like to see the one you're referencing, but I just want you to know like there is fraud all around the country for these different programs and things that need to be addressed all around the country. So, do you want to do you want and what what do you want to do you think Democrats are like less likely to address fraud or want fraud to happen?
>> less likely to address fraud.
>> Uh okay, Tim Walz let fraud happen in Minnesota. By doing what?
He enabled it and um there were recordings. He he testified.
Um I forget the exact details. I'll have to go look back into it, but he testified and he was recorded essentially enabling groups um these social programs, you know, saying, "Hey, if you do this for me, if I do this for you, please don't um uh let them come after me and our our group."
I'll have to get the the source for you.
>> hell are you saying? This is so vague and I don't know if that Who's he saying this to?
>> He recently testified on this. Yeah, testified on saying saying what? You have to give me a more accurate description of the events. You're not really clarifying.
>> give me a second.
I'll I'll get it for you.
Did you find what you're looking for?
Former investigator Jay Swanson testified that Minnesota DHS officials pressured him pressured him, aka Tim Walz, to tone down or remove fraud findings.
>> W- When you say aka Tim Walz, is that what's put in the in there or is that something you're just like assuming?
>> to referring to Walz.
Does it say referring to Walz or Yes. Is that something you're assuming?
>> This is This is directly What's the title? Let me read it.
Uh New York Post.
What's the title? New New York Post and it's ex-Minnesota street state trooper reveals how state tried to cover up fraud allegations. Then Walz um give me a second. I just spelled Walz. Trooper reveals then Walz shut down his his on Minnesota tried to cover up fraud.
April 30th, 2026.
New York Post.
Not the most reliable source, I just want to clarify.
Um Let's Let's see what they say.
>> the most reliable source? No, no, no, it's a right-wing source, but like I I'm I'm still going to I'm still curious to see the information.
>> on on Trump as well.
What's that?
I've seen plenty of negative coverage on Trump as well from the New York Post.
Plenty.
Um okay.
Um but yeah, they they commonly are going to perpetuate like right-wing talking points. But let me just let me just try to like What does it What does it say?
Um and then Tim Walz came into office and so once an entire department investigating fraud and abuse was eliminated according to Republican lawmakers. Okay, so they just claim this.
It's just Republican lawmakers claiming it.
All right. Uh I got another one for you.
House Oversight Committee. Wait wait wait. Can you Can you Can you admit that there were investigations under Walz's control?
Into fraud? That he helped facilitate?
And allowed to facilitate?
Parker, of course there were investigations. Okay, so like what did he do to prevent these investigations is really the question, right? There was nothing. Okay, let's look Let's look at the number of >> What could he do to prevent these investigations? Can you answer me these questions? It took the FBI to raid these establishments to get anything actually fixed. That's what it took. The state department >> Okay, so can you explain to me what he should have done otherwise?
Uh I don't know, Parker. What do you do when you're governor and mass fraud is happening in your in your state?
You fix it. Okay, well then you When you say mass fraud is happening in the state, I have a question. Do you think higher levels of fraud are happening in Minnesota compared to every other state in the country?
I don't know the exact percentages, but this is just I'm just asking like if you were to look at the per capita rate, if you looked at the level of fraud, would you say that Minnesota has the highest level of fraud in the country? Like I said, it You mentioned Florida. I'm going to give you the benefit of doubt.
I'm going to research Well, I'm just I'm just curious. I'm just curious. Like Is Is that something that you believe? If it's not something you believe, well then tell me what specific policies you think Walz should have enacted, and then you should apply that to every single one one of the governors that has a state that has a higher fraud rate than Minnesota. I I think that Every single one. And if they're not doing it, that means they're allowing fraud under your view. I'm referencing Do you realize that? Does it make any sense? I'm referencing blue states because there's a much higher there's a much higher level of of these state programs, a much higher higher level.
Okay, but then you'd have to argue that there's even a nominally higher level of fraud.
Okay, well, let's look at California as well with the hospices. It I'll have to get I'll have to find the exact stats, um, but there was thousands >> you can't just give anecdotal anecdotal circumstances to then describe a common trend or proportional level of fraud within a certain state.
And again, you're also not indicating that Democrats want this fraud or okay with the fraud. Can you explain to me why the Democrats would be okay with the fraud if they want to fund these social programs to provide for people in need?
What are your thoughts?
>> Why would they want the funding for people in need to be stolen? Why would they want that? What are your thoughts on Nick Shirley?
Can you answer my question before you ask me some random question?
Okay, I was going to tie it in, but yeah, what's your question? Go ahead ask it again.
You didn't listen.
You you literally were just prepping that Nick Shirley question.
I'm going to tie it in, but >> Okay, tie it into what?
You didn't listen. Into all the fraud.
Okay, well, listen. You can't just give anecdotal anecdotal circumstances to then describe a common trend or proportional level of fraud within a certain state.
And again, you're also not indicating that Democrats want this fraud or okay with the fraud. Can you explain to me why the Democrats would be okay with the fraud if they want to fund these social programs to provide for people in need?
Can I explain to you why Democrats are okay with fraud if they want Okay.
I I think that obviously there a lot of people aren't okay with fraud, but like I said from the inside out it looks like some of these politicians are in on it.
>> [gasps] >> Okay.
Um and what you what evidence do you have for this? You have a conviction?
Has he been charged for helping fraud or for Let's let's look at the >> has he been convicted? And like by the way, you believe all of these things to be true about Tim Walz without a charge, without a conviction, but Donald Trump's literally charged, convicted, and sentenced and many Trump supporters don't believe that. I'd actually have to ask you, do you believe the felonies against Trump to be true?
Wasn't he held liable liable or responsible?
I'm talking about the felonies he was convicted of, the 34 felonies.
Do you believe that those are legitimate criminal felonies that you think he should be held accountable for? I don't think Trump's a good person, so if he was held liable, I believe it.
Okay. Um if he was held liable of sexually abusing a woman, would you believe that?
I've heard you've I've heard you bring up this point so many times and yes, I would believe it.
So you believe that he sexually abused a woman yet you still support him? I didn't vote for him just to be clear.
You said you would vote for him over Harris.
If I had to if I had to, I would prefer >> No, would you choose to not vote? You could either not vote, vote for Trump, or vote for Harris.
Oh, are you going to kick me if I say don't vote?
No, I won't.
I would prefer not to vote. I I'm not going to give my vote.
I lied.
Related Videos
US-Iran War LIVE: US Launches New Strikes On Iranian Military Site Near Bandar Abbas | WION Live
WION
6K views•2026-05-28
Guess Which Country Trump Is Threatening To Bomb Next! w/ Chris Hedges
thejimmydoreshow
5K views•2026-05-30
TRUMP LIVE | POTUS makes massive announcement on Iran nuke deal in high-stakes cabinet meeting
TheEconomicTimes
536 views•2026-05-28
The Silence Around Alex Coughlan | #80
RealEddieHobbs
2K views•2026-05-28
Did China Get to Marco Rubio?
ChinaUnscripted
1K views•2026-05-28
Sonko Is Now Speaker. But Who Are the Two Men Who Made His Return Possible?
djbwakali
11K views•2026-05-28
Why Was There No Mention of Israel or Gaza in The DNC's Autopsy Report
wearefindout
227 views•2026-05-29
Trump Just Got HUMILIATED... And It's Going VIRAL
harryjsisson
46K views•2026-05-29











