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Bernie Finn Interview - PT 1: Why One Nation Should WinAdded:
You know, this this is Australia. If Australian governments don't defend Australia, who the hell is going to?
>> Today, mate, we've got something really special. I was lucky enough to be invited over to Bernie Finn's place and sit and chew the fat with one of the most interesting politicians in the country.
3 2 1 With 40 years under his belt with the Liberal Party, there isn't much that Bernie doesn't know and won't say. He was expelled from the Liberal Party in 2022 when he said what we were all thinking and compared the then state premier, the right honorable Dan Andrews, to Adolf Hitler.
>> Nice.
>> And got his card from the party.
>> I like the sound of this guy.
>> Yeah, no, he's a cracker. He was elected at the same time as Jeffrey Kennett won the state election and I enjoyed listening to his take on Jeffrey and how he led the state. From the CFMEU to Chino, from renewables to Dan and Jacinda, Bernie does not hold back.
While nothing is set in stone, he is a paid-up member of One Nation. He loves what that party is doing and I really hope that he runs as a candidate for the party later this year at the state election. We need a whole lot of Bernie Finns in Parliament if we're going to turn this ship around. So, enjoy this first part of our interview. Bernie talks about not only why One Nation could win an election, but why they should win an election coming up as the landscape of Australian politics goes through massive shifts.
>> Mhm.
So, we we talked a bit about One Nation and and obviously you were 30 years in the the Liberal Party.
>> 41 years.
>> 41 years.
>> 41 years, yes.
>> Right.
Uh >> You only you only get 25 for murder.
>> [laughter] >> And you support if I watch I'll I'll watch I follow you on Facebook. You are very supportive of One Nation. Can they win the election coming >> Yes. Yes. People people say that One Nation can't win the election. Well, that's nonsense. Course One Nation. If enough people vote for them, One Nation can win the election. If enough people vote for the Nationals, the Nationals can win. Whoever the people vote for will win the election, and that includes One Nation.
Uh and that's something that I I just want to reinforce, you know, we're not we're not running One Nation's not running in um uh in the PM to support the Liberals or or anybody else. We're we're running One Nation's running to win the seat, and we are running in November to win government. And and we are running in Farrer to win Farrer. You know, we are we are not there as some sort of sidekick to somebody else. Uh we we We're not a disrupter. You're there No, yeah. We we We are the We are we are the real deal.
Um and and we are on about doing what is the best thing for Australia. You know, nobody else No other political party is putting Australia first. And that's what we need to do more than anything else, you know, we the these people who seem to think that um um kowtowing to uh to to to to Brussels or or some such place uh overseas uh is the way to go, no way known. No way known. You know, this this is Australia. If Australian governments don't defend Australia, who the hell is going to?
>> Yeah.
>> You know? Honestly.
>> Yeah, you're right.
>> is going to?
>> Yeah.
>> I I just I just find it astonishing that anybody would have a view uh otherwise than that. You know, that that that You know, you you you you think about um you know, kowtowing to the bureaucrats in uh The Hague or or or or or wherever it might be, uh New York, you know, with the UN. I mean, that that UN, we should be out of the UN. You know, we should be out of the World Health Organization. Uh you know, we should be out of the the World Economic Forum, you know?
>> Yeah.
>> These people do not serve our interests.
>> No.
>> They do not serve Australia's interests.
>> own interests.
>> They do. They do. And and they're telling us what to do and what not to do. Um I would say to them, I would be very polite, I would be very calm, I would be very relaxed. I would look at them and I would say, you can get stuffed.
Uh, and and you know, because these people don't care about Australia.
>> Yeah.
>> And if you don't care about Australia, you can get stuffed. Because that's what we're on I mean that's what I'm on about. I'm on about Australia. I'm on about our kids. I'm on about our future.
And and well, you know, I'm I'm not getting any younger.
You know, it's it's going to be you know, hopefully not not too far down the track, I suppose.
But but um, there will be a time coming when I'm going to need the sort of support that elderly people need. And I would you know, I see that um, in Canada, I saw the figures yesterday, 5.1% of all deaths in Canada um, are now euthanasia.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh, which is pretty horrifying when when you think about it.
And we have just changed the laws in Victoria to make euthanasia easier here.
>> Mhm.
>> Uh, so you know, are we are we going down the same track?
>> I know someone very well who says we are.
>> Yeah, well I I have no doubt that we are. I have no doubt that we are.
>> You don't have to have a terminal illness to >> No, no you don't. No.
You've had you know, we we have had in Canada, they they have had cases of young children who are depressed being killed.
Didn't know no terminal illness. And they they got mental illness.
>> Yeah.
>> They're depressed.
>> Yeah.
>> But yet they were euthanized.
>> Yeah. That's frightening.
>> It's it's just you know, what? I mean Can- Canada I think is in a worse state than we are. And that's really saying something.
I mean Trudeau was bad enough, but this next this bloke is I mean he's he's you talk about the WEF and and all the rest of it. He He's straight from that that cartel.
>> Yeah. He's right. Well, he was on the founding board of the WEF. He's part of the what do they call the builder the I can't remember what they call them but yeah, no. And then he was obviously the Bank of England. Yeah, yeah.
>> He's quite a frightening person.
>> He [clears throat] is a frightening person. Yes, he is. And he's a good mate of Elbows.
>> Is he right?
>> Oh, well, Elbow, you know, Elbow is out here. He's gone to Parliament. No, what a joy. What a joy it was to have him, wasn't it?
He did the country the world of good.
>> Yeah, no, really.
Uh interesting what you say about the WF. So, what's your future, mate? Do you don't know yet? Obviously.
>> I don't know. Um we'll see what happens.
I mean, I I um I have said to One Nation that I'll serve in whatever capacity they want me to serve, whether whether that be in Parliament, whether that be giving out leaflets on the corner, I don't know.
But, um you know, time time will work that out in some way or another. Um but, you know, I've got I've got uh plenty of energy. Uh I've got a vision um for where Australia should be and and I want to um I want to help a uh a party um who can change this country for the better to do just that. That's That's really what I'm all about. I mean, I've spent 23 years in Parliament. Um you know, I I could um if I wanted to go up to Queensland and sit on a beach for the rest of my days. And I have to say that's very tempting. But, at the same time, um this country needs people, good people, who are prepared to fight for it.
Otherwise, we're gone.
And uh I can't in all conscience walk away and say, "No, I've done my bit."
Because as far as I'm concerned, as long as I've got breath in my body, as long as the good Lord leaves me on this earth, um I I I haven't finished.
I haven't finished. Um and he keeps reminding me of that, which is really which is really frustrating at times.
Uh but but um you know, that's um that that's uh something that uh I'm committed to is is just making this country a better place in any way and every way that I possibly can. Now, that means going back to Spring Street, great. If it means going to Canberra, great.
If it means um giving out how to vote cards on on the street corners or whatever it might be, great.
I just don't know where that's going to lead me, but time will tell.
>> Time will tell. Yeah. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
One nation would benefit from someone of your experience, obviously. And and you've seen the best of the state and the worst. So, from a personal point of view, I hope you get involved and are able to get involved and and help bring us back to where we deserve to be because yeah, we were the best state in Australia.
>> We were for years. For years we were. We were. I mean, you know, the the Victoria just shone.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, and not anymore. We are you know, I remember when when we were the laughing stock during the Kirner years.
You know, they'd say, "What's what's the capital of Victoria?" "20 cents."
You know, what's you know, all those all those Victorian jokes were around. Now, people are feeling sorry for us. They don't even joke about us anymore. They feel sad for us and sorry for us. And that's that's tragic, you know. I I remember during the the COVID period or just after the COVID period when Parliament resumed, and I was we were we were sitting late one night and it was about 9:00. We we rose and um I decided that I'd head downtown and see if I could get some tucker.
So, I thought Little Bourke Street.
Tucker. So, I went down there and there was nothing open.
>> Hm.
>> This is 9:00 at night.
>> Yeah.
>> In in Little Bourke Street, you know, the the hub the the the restaurant hub of of Melbourne. Of Australia, probably. And there was nothing open.
There was nothing open anywhere.
And I I actually walked through and I and I I had tears running down my cheeks at what Melbourne had become.
>> Hm.
>> I was devastated at what Melbourne had become.
And I ended up going Bourke Street and and um having some Maccas.
>> Yeah.
>> Um because they were open. Yeah, well, that's I had to do that. But I was hungry. I was But but but you know, I just thought how very very sad it is that Melbourne has become um become this this this dreadful dead boring place.
>> Yeah. When we were so cosmopolitan >> Yeah, oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
>> place to live.
>> I mean, I I remember um you know, Melbourne hasn't always been that way. I remember uh years and years ago, you know, going back to pre-Kennett years, uh where if you could find somewhere that's open at 11:00 at night for a drink, you know, >> [laughter] >> Uh but but when Kennett came in and um you know, he he enlivened he allowed people to open up and we had 24-hour restaurants and bars and and all the rest of it. Um and and it became a a tourist attraction a tourist precinct in its own right. Yeah. Melbourne did, you know, and you look at it now.
And you know, I've spoken to a number of people over the the last little while, I suppose, um who said to me straight out, "Why would you go to Melbourne?"
>> Yeah.
>> You know, number of people who said, "Thank God I've left."
>> Yeah.
>> Uh it's just really really sad. And and um you know, if I can if I can play a part in rebuilding uh rejuvenating Melbourne, that'll be great. I'll be very very happy.
Um if I can if I can play a part in making uh Melbourne um something akin to what I experienced in the in the uh in all I over the last 30 years, um I'll be wrapped.
>> Yeah.
>> But uh you know, we'll see what we'll see what happens.
>> what happens.
>> what happens today, yeah.
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