LIVE: Let's Talk PM Mark Carney's Speech in New York Today and Canada Politics Drama

Added: 2026-05-30

[00:00:01]live stream. Good to have you with us.

[00:00:03]We do this every Thursday, of course, at 7 o'clock Eastern, four o'clock on Pacific or wherever you're watching uh the podcast and and the live streams.

[00:00:10]Great to have you with us today. Boy, we got a lot of ground to cover here uh in a short period of time. The Western premers here in Canada met earlier today uh and it it had some highlights and some low lightss that we're going to talk about. uh Prime Minister Mark Carney was in New York today talking with business leaders and uh seemed to score big points with them and we'll ask about the ramifications of that and whether or not it's going to have any impact on the upcoming trade negotiations which don't seem to be going too far too fast these days. So, we'll get that. But most of all, we want to hear from you uh your comments and and your suggestions about this. And to kick off the the podcast and the live stream today, I want to refer to one of those uh very I I yeah, I'm going to refer to to one of those uh very texts that we got just a few minutes ago. And and our chat's open, by the way, for your comments as soon as you guys want to jump on here.

[00:01:00]Okay. Uh this one is coming. It comes from uh John D. Maline, could you throw that up on the screen? U Okay, I've got my reading glasses on. I I can read that. No, I can read that. You're testing me, but I can read that. John says that he writes he says, "I would like a discussion focused on the premers of BC and Alberta. David Ebie is getting a lot of flack for commenting the BC and indigenous peoples were left out of the meetings between Alberta and Ottawa regarding oil pipelines. Also for Alberta getting special concessions. Uh I he goes on to write. He says, "I personally agree with David's positions.

[00:01:35]He's not whining. He's just being factual. The tanker ban on the northwest coast of BC has to stay in place to prevent another Exxon spill. I despise rewarding bad behavior in brackets here separatist threats." and he is correct in calling out Danielle Smith as a separatist premier just as uh she was when she was the leader of the Wild Rose Party. Uh couldn't come in a better time. John, thank you for the text and thank you for the suggestion. Uh let me just if I could uh give you a little context for this before I I I opine on this. Okay. Uh the tanker ban that he's referring to has been in place for for some time now and there is a ban right now and it has to do with the the shipment of oil. Uh the ban covers the northern coast of BC from the northern tip of Vancouver Island up to the Alaska border. That includes a number of different entrances and straits through there. The restrictions specifically are tankers carrying more than 12,500 metric tons of crude oil or what they call persistent oil. That's stuff like bumen or bunker sea and something like that.

[00:02:34]They are barred from moing, anchoring, loading or unloading in that area. Not supposed to be there at all. Now there are exemptions to it. smaller shipments under that 12,500 metric ton mark are allowed in so that local communities and industries can receive critical heating and oil fuel. Right now Danielle Smith wants uh well she'd love to see the whole thing tossed out. That's Danielle Smith for you, isn't it? U and that was part of the memor memorandum of understanding discussions between Prime Minister Carney and Danielle Smith. Uh Smith is pushing the federal government now to either amend or totally lift that ban. I don't think that's going to happen. uh because she says it acts as a major roadblock for proposed pipelines meant to transport Alberta oil and deep water northern ports. And of course, she's talking about the Asia markets and everything else. Now, uh to to John's point about Premier Ebie of of British Columbia, the BC government and the coastal first nations have signed a joint declaration to uphold the oil tanker moratorium, warning that irreversible ecological damage is uh is going to happen if the ban is lifted.

[00:03:35]So, what's going on right now is uh the federal government has said that, okay, we're going to study this issue and determine whether or not the ban should stay in place, maybe it needs to be amended uh or scrapped altogether. They haven't said exactly where they're going to land on this right now, which is one of the things I think that Premier Ebie is very concerned about. Now, okay, so that's that's the context. And again, John, thank you for this. Uh my short answer to this is uh I think Premier Ebie was absolutely right in saying, "Hey, what about me?" Uh it's one thing to talk about Alberta and a pipeline, you know, to to get their their product out to market, but it's got to go through BC and uh it's got to have the the okay from indigenous groups that are going to be impacted by that. That's that's only common sense. And yeah, I think they should have been at the table for those negotiations. U there might have been a sense of political expediency to get theou done and then we'll do about you know, we'll have those discussions and that input later on, I guess. Not so sure that that actually holds water. I I would have preferred to see Premier Ebie in those discussions. It's just he's not whining.

[00:04:36]I think he's simply saying, "Hey, you know, you want me as a partner. Don't shut the door on me." And and that's a very legitimate request. Now, I don't know what's going to happen with the tanker ban. Uh I I know that in in your text, you talked about, you know, the Exxon oil spill. Um things are better now. I I'm not going to suggest that oil spills don't happen anymore. Uh but the technology with pipelines and oil tankers and such, I think, has improved considerably. Uh I'm I'm not suggesting there's an imminent threat that there's going to be an oil leak like the Exxon Valdis. Uh but that's going to be taken into consideration and and again I'm hoping and I just based on past experience that this government is going to base their decision based on science and and of course yes the economic realities that they're going on here too. So EB's right. He's got a legitimate concern. Uh we're going to talk more about him a little bit later on in the live stream here too because he was a a ve very vocal opponent of some of the things that Premier Daniel Smith of Alberta was talking about when all the Western premers met uh just the other day. So we'll keep an eye on that and thanks so much for this. A lot of you jumping in on this. Thank you so much for being with us here on the the podcast today uh because we want to get your thoughts and your opinions on some of these key issues just like John did uh to give us some ideas to what we want to talk about. Hey Liz, uh BC has to be included. They are a huge player in any of these discussions. Absolutely. They are. Absolutely. And you know, we we had a a I think a a strong consensus uh from Prime Minister Carney and all the premers because he's had a number of meetings with them. I think he's had more meetings in the first year he's been in office than the last two or three prime ministers had total. Uh and it was great. But now that we're getting down to some rather contentious issues, uh you can't simply say, "Okay, we're not going to talk with you. We're going to mention this and we'll we'll get back to you on that." Uh BC's got to be part of that discussion and and so does Manitoba and so does Saskatchewan because there has to be a consensus here because there's going to be an impact on all the provinces and uh and I think he's right to talk about that and uh and I'd like to think that that message has been received by Ottawa and that's what's going to be happening going forward. Thomas says, "I think Ebie has valid concerns but is being framed by news as whiny." Uh you know what?

[00:06:39]Sticking up for your province and sticking up for indigenous peoples is not whiny. And I, you know, something, Thomas, uh, you're going to get me off on a tangent here. Don't don't rely on media coverage and say, "Well, that's the the reality of what's going on." Uh, there's an awful lot of of media coverage, and I use that term loosely, that just loves to be able to to stir the crap here, okay? And they they you use provocative headlines and they'll put a label on on Ebby like being a whiner. U and, and on and on it goes. uh they're all standing up for their particular provinces and for the betterment of of the best deal possible here and I get that and Ebie has said look at he says there may be a way to do this uh you know whether the ban is going to be impacted or not or whether there's going to even be a pipeline built but let's all be at the table to have those discussions so that all those opinions are being held and and vocalized and I think that's a the right way to go this polar vortex good to have you with does the Alberta separatist think that the world revolves around them yeah pretty much yeah that's that's The short answer to that, there's a lot of crap going on with the separatist movement and the referendum that's happening. Uh, and I I I want to reference something that happened at the premier's conference about that in just a couple of minutes. Hi, Granny. Good to have you with us. Uh, and put the claps on Smith before she can do the damage that we see in the US. Well, that's kind of up to the people of Alberta, isn't it? And uh, and that's one of the things that that I'm going to be watching to see just, you know, does she speak for the people of Alberta? I'm not so sure uh that that's the way that things should be going here. Anna Lee says, "I think we just need to ask Premier Danielle to please hold another provincial election." Now, she never talked about separation in her last campaign for premier. Unfair. Uh good point and something that Prime Minister Carney talked about and it it's a very valid point. Uh she ran in the last provincial election on on a basis of okay, we need to build more pipelines.

[00:08:25]You know, we're getting a raw deal from Ottawa, yada yada yada. There was no talk about a referendum. There was no talk about separation. So, it's not like people voted and say, "Yeah, we want to have this happen." this this is a separatist movement within Alberta. And what bothers me and I'm sure bothers most of you who are watching us today is that she she's bending a knee to the separatists. She's trying to play both ends here. She says, "No, I'm a sovereign. I I believe in Canada. I think I'm, you know, a strong independent Alberta, a sovereign Alberta within a a united Canada." I'm not so sure that that's even, you know, congruent. But the reality here is that she's saying that and then she's she's, you know, doing whatever she can to try to make it easy for the separatists too.

[00:09:04]Go Bobby says, "Uh, good for uh Re Rob Canoe. Uh only one person who finally checked Smith something media should do." Can I talk about that for a second?

[00:09:12]Yeah. They uh the media that covered this the other day. All the Western premers, that's BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba had a a couple of day meeting. It was in Canonascus in Alberta. uh and uh the press conference at the end of it, Danielle Smith kind of went off on her thing, you know, that well, you know, the the the judge's decision to stop the referendum because we didn't consult was wrong. She think it was an error in law and and and Wobb Canoe, the premier of Manitoba, jumped right in and says, "I'd like to comment on that." We says, "We all know that most of what you're saying, Premier Smith, is wrong." And he went on to say that it's your responsibility. It's not the responsibility of Aboriginal and indigenous groups to to say, "Hey, what about us?" it's your job as the government of this province to include them in those conversations. And he was quite blunt about that. He said it with a smile on his face, but nonetheless, it was, I thought, a great takeown. And it kind of shows you what leadership is all about. This is a guy and and Cano's been like this on a number of other issues, too. Whether it's pipelines, whether it's unification, economic policies, whatever. Uh this is a guy with vision.

[00:10:15]This is a guy that well I can tell you in the most recent polling that was nationwide uh he is by a long stretch the most popular premier in Canada. I don't just mean within the people of of Manitoba. I mean right across Canada.

[00:10:28]They're looking at all the premers and saying he's the guy. Um and because he's shown that that he's he's willing to to listen. He's willing to talk. He's very articulate. Got a great sense of humor and and obviously he knows what he's talking about too. and uh he's he's head and shoulders above a couple of the other premers that were sitting at that conference, aren't they? Uh well, thank you so much, Thomas, for your generous tip. Good to have you with us and thank you for your support to do. Uh do not fail for the you us versus them on exceptionalism trap. Uh never 51. Yeah, you know, and that's this is the way that this is uh this is the way that the the separatists and other people that are trying to stir crap up always try to operate, isn't it? They they they they truckuck in in hatred, anger, and fear.

[00:11:13]Uh that's that's those are the tools that they use. Donald Trump has done that. The MAGA people do it. And don't kid yourself. These are the Maple Mega people in Alberta that are doing this, too. Rebecca says, "That press conference after the Western Premier meeting in Alberta was classic Canadian politics when it is working properly.

[00:11:28]Loved watching DS get called out publicly." Yeah, wasn't that a canoe?

[00:11:32]And and and Ebie did that, too. I mean, he called it too and said, "Look at, you know, we're supposed to be talking."

[00:11:37]Ebie was I think very articulate and he's he's pissed and I don't blame him for being pissed and it wasn't just that he wasn't included in theou he said look at he says we met this was a meeting that the premers had scheduled quite a long time ago and he says we were supposed to talk about economic issues and interprovincial trade and a number of things to try to improve our economies and and he says and Alberta in other words Danielle Smith has hijacked this whole bloody meeting and all they want to talk about is the separation and this this referendum that's not what Canada's all about and you know and we're spending way too much time and energy talking about this trying to do something about this and trying to get this resolved instead of looking at the macro issues and and he's absolutely right. Both of the people both Ebie and Canoe that that talked about that basically laid the blame right at Daniel Smith's feet and said you're screwing this country around and we haven't got time for this crap and and I wish more people in Alberta would start to talk like that. I'm not hearing too many of those voices. Uh, Linda Cochran, hey, say you saw a great between uh debate between Jason Kenny and Keith Wilson and Alberta separation. Yeah, I I I didn't see it. I I read the transcript of it though, Linda, and that's a good point.

[00:12:44]Uh Jason Kenny, not my favorite politician for a lot of reasons that we don't need to get into now, but a staunch supporter of federalism. Uh, and he went at these guys and and you know, and he was accused of being fear-mongering, not unlike what Mark Carney was accused of the other day of being a fear-mongerer. But when he talked about the consequences and he simply said to the people of Alberta, "Do you understand what what you guys are asking here? That if you decide to leave, you got nothing." Okay? He's nothing. He says, "You have no pension plans. There's no Canada pension plan.

[00:13:15]Uh all the federal money dries right up." As a matter of fact, he says, and for you people that think this, you know, the world revolves around oil. He says that the Trans Mountain pipeline was built by the federal government, by the Trudeau government. They own it, not Alberta. and he says they could simply say you're not part of the country anymore. We're shutting it down. Where would that leave them? These guys don't want to talk about the consequences because the consequences are pretty dire. And and this is I reminded everybody about this. I think we talked about this on the the live stream last week. It's the same game plan that the the Brexit people used in in the UK years ago. Boris Johnson and Farage and all these other clowns. You know, oh, everything's going to be fine. It'd be great. Well, no. You know what? the hit the fan as soon as they they voted to get out of the European Union and they're still suffering from it. And if there's anybody in Alberta, some of these crazy guys, the separatist movement are are trying to push here. If they think that this is going to be okay and everything's going to be fine and the sun's going to shine the next day, they don't know what they're talking about. And I hope that people actually start to to do some work here and understand. Hi Pierre, good to have you with us. I never forgot that Quebec separation has profited the rest of Canada who enjoyed all these investors who quit Quebec. Alberta should take notice. investors love stability, not separatism. Uh that happened and I know I' I've even seen in some of the right-wing media, which are sponsored by the MAGA people, of course, in this country, uh saying, well, you know, it wasn't that bad. Some of those companies already left before they the referendum back in the day. They left because there was a separatist movement. That's why companies don't like instability and they will not invest in a province or a country for that matter that that doesn't know what the hell they're doing or is instable. They don't know what the political future is going to be. Who in their right mind is going to put money into a pipeline if they think, "Hey, I don't even know who we're dealing with here. Is it the federal government?" No.

[00:14:58]Is it the It's certainly not the Alberta government. Alice says, "I'm very proud of the Windsor mayor stating, let me put that back up here, that the God Bridge would remain closed so it could not be used as a bargaining chip for the trade negotiations." Yeah, the uh the Windsor mayor is a pretty smart guy. Uh we got to know him pretty well during the COVID times because remember there was some shutdowns there from those uh people who called themselves truckers tried to close that bridge down and they did for a couple of hours and uh he simply said, "You know what? Screw it. You're not going to use it as a bargaining chip, Donald Trump. Uh just leave it closed.

[00:15:30]We don't we don't want we're not going to open it. There's no ribbon cutting.

[00:15:32]We're not doing anything uh until you come to your senses." Tom, good to have you with us. Uh since I'm I could see Canoe as prime minister in a few years.

[00:15:40]He has that certain something incredibly straightforward, likable. Uh he is, isn't he? I certainly bilingual of course he knows French, English, and and a number of of the indigenous languages.

[00:15:50]Uh as as a matei uh he's an NDPer and some people are simply going to write him off because of that. U we got to get out of this mind about putting labels on people and say, well, he's an NDP so he can't be that good. Uh here's a guy who's talking about economic development. He's talking about rebuilding the Churchill uh port as as a major international port. This is a guy with vision. I I I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves here about what he might do politically in the future. But I told you just a few minutes ago, the people of Canada are taking notice and say, "Hey, this guy's he's got his act together." Lucky Manitoba. A lot of other people are saying, "Wish we had a premier like that in our province." Uh honest integrity and ethics. I think that that Juan Canoe is the guy getting a lot of that from people and and and I I I don't disagree.

[00:16:34]I think there's a lot of positives happening there. Uh and by the way, if you do a little digging into some of the things that are going on in manitoba, uh there's some pretty progressive things there that he's doing to address a lot of the concerns of the people in of that province and some of the the challenges that they're facing too. So, it's not just uh that, but the fact that this guy has a pretty good grip on the macro issues as well uh bodess well for that's the kind of leadership we want.

[00:16:58]Whether it's going to be Canoe, whether it's going to be Ebie, uh whether it's going to be whomever, you I mean, you know, I I thought there was some hope for Scott Mo from Saskatchewan a few weeks ago. You know, when he went on the trade missions with Prime Minister Carney, he went to China, he went to India. Um and I thought, okay, maybe he's finally buying into this that, you know, Saskatchewan is going to benefit greatly from from this new attitude that's happening from Ottawa. But but then, you know, he just kind of fell right back into it and he's supporting Danielle Smith and the the referendum and everything else.

[00:17:26]Some people just can't can't can't break themselves away from their political ideologies. Uh Anna Alexi says there's a huge misinformation campaign going on particularly with regard to Alberta separation. Uh bots and people outside our country are being hired to spread divisive and hateful language. U there's been a report by that. Did you see? I'm sure you saw it. Uh and I think CEUS did something on this. The RCMP are investigating this too. Uh remember we talked a few weeks ago about foreign interference and the fact that you know that that the Trump people, the mega people in the United States are looking and fairing paying very close attention to what's happening in Alberta. They want to stir crap up in this country.

[00:18:05]They want dissension. They want this country to be discombobulated so that they don't speak with the United Voice.

[00:18:11]And don't think for a second that they're not putting millions of dollars into some of these misinformation campaigns because they want the separatists to win in and and they that's going to cause a great deal of turmoil within the Canadian economy and that's Trump's risand detra. He wants to disrupt the Canadian economy. Uh Kelly, good to have you with us. Mega hacked the Republican party and the Maple Megas have done the same thing to the Conservatives here in Canada. Yeah, they control the narrative, don't they, Kelly? And that's that's the sad part about this. Now, uh there is no Republican party in the United States anymore. There's the Maggas and then there's the Democrats. Uh and and that's a huge difference. I mean, a huge gap in between there. And the same thing's happening there. You know, the the party of Brian Maloney, the party of of John A. McDonald. I mean, you know, uh these guys would be spinning in their graves looking at what these guys have done to their political aspirations and their party and the concept of of conservative politics. I mean, even small C conservative politics. It's not like that anymore. This is radical politics.

[00:19:06]Uh, Maple Boy, the Bill Kelly podcast.

[00:19:08]What do you think about Steven Gilbo?

[00:19:10]Uh, I listen, I respect the guys and uh, you know, I respect his attitude. I respect his his views. Uh, but he's got to understand that, you know, as as Prime Minister Carney has told us time and time again, we have to accept the world as it is, not necessarily the world as we want it to be. And Gilbo can't seem to get off that. I I I know he's really ticked off that that a lot of the things that he's upset about are the fact that the Carney government uh has modified or in some cases changed an awful lot of the Trudeau endeavors towards the environment. But times change and with that if you don't change then you know you're left behind. You're going to get stuck in an ideological bind if you if you simply say well that's the way it's got to be. Yeah, but if we don't do something about the economy the whole thing is going to hell in a handcart. Uh people like Gilbo and and others that are like-minded like that just don't seem to get it. There has to be some balance and and I've read some of the articles and some of the discussion papers over the last little while that said Carney is abandoning the environment. That's that's total BS.

[00:20:11]That's not happening at all. He's changing some policies. He's modifying some policies because he's got to get this economy back on. We can't do anything else. Okay? Nothing is going to happen if we're broke and and if there are no jobs and if unemployment is rampant and people can't afford houses and there has to be some some flexibility here. And I never saw any sorts of flexibility with Gilbo with his policies, you know, and he was in the previous government with Prime Minister Trudeau. He kind of had free reign to do those sorts of things because I think Trudeau was like-minded. But that was then, this is now. And people have to understand that there has to be some some flexibility and some change here.

[00:20:46]Uh Thomas wants to know what your opinion is on the best way to fight separatism. Uh truth. How about that?

[00:20:52]That's the one word I I'd like to throw out there because a lot of the separatist arguments are based on misinformation or just total lies uh and innuendo. Speak truth. Talk about the realities like Jason Kenny did in that debate like Mark Carney did the other day when he started talking about uh the price that it paid. And this is a guy uh Prime Minister Carney who saw this happen. He was in the UK during the Brexit debate and he warned the people then and he's got every damn right to warn the people of Canada and the people of Alberta about what can happen. You you fight you fight misinformation with truth and it's going to take a lot of work. You can't just lay it out there.

[00:21:28]It's going to take some strong advocacy.

[00:21:30]It's going to take some loud voices to counter the kind of crap that's coming out from the other side. And uh I'm I'm seeing that from some people. But I think there has to be a united front and and the prime minister made a very important part point about that just the other day that I think bears repeating.

[00:21:46]We know how he feels about this. Uh and we know how the government feels about this. But this has to be from Alberta.

[00:21:53]This has to be grown. This has to be organically grown for within the people of Alberta. They're the ones that have to shoot this thing down. Uh Hilfig says I'm old enough to remember when Quebec was told point blank you would lose your uh insert government services and the numbers of those wanting separation changed noticeably. Yeah, exactly.

[00:22:10]Remember I because I remember those discussions uh you know when the the separatists in Quebec were talking about this. Oh, we'll just uh we'll just use Canadian currency uh and we'll just have the same trade deals that we currently have. No, you won't. You're not part of the country anymore. You can't use Canadian currency. No, you can't. The free trade deals that we have with other countries will not apply to you.

[00:22:29]uh your membership in NATO is non-existent because you're not a member of of the Canadian government. You can't you can't suck and blow at the same time here. If you want out, you're on your own and you got to start from square one again. And and these separatists in Alberta, just like the ones that were in Quebec a few years ago, are trying to hoodwink people and say, "Oh, no, no, no. Everything is going to stay the same. You know, we'll have strong relationships and trade relationships."

[00:22:53]You got natada. All right? Because you're a non- entity. Anything that was ever negotiated between Canada and the United States or the UK or or Asian nations does not apply to you if you're no longer part of Canada. And by the way, good luck trying to get a pipeline to the West Coast. Uh if you're not a part of this country, why would the government play ball with you then? For sentimental reasons, he said sarcastically.

[00:23:18]But you know, those are the points that have to be made and and we have to hammer those home. And I know that, you know, the people that are on the separatist side are going to say, well, that's just fear-mongering. No, it's truth. That's the truth. And that's the reality that you have to deal with. And it's about time that we started when having these debates, deal with those realities and deal with those truths instead of simply letting them get away with this rhetoric that everything's going to be fine. Uh John Iverson, the great writer that covers uh politics for many many years now for the National Post, uh had John on the show many times back in the radio days and he wrote about this and John had experience certainly with Brexit, but also with the the Scottish referendum uh some years ago about their independence and and how that was being covered and and the the the lies that were being spread through that as well. And it was close. It was real close in those things because uh people that are angry, people that are frustrated about the way things are going these days economically, whatever, uh are looking for quick solutions and they say, "Yeah, it's their fault. The the guys that want to break away, they're telling us that everything once we don't have to deal with Ottawa anymore, everything's going to be fine here in Alberta." No, it's not.

[00:24:22]Absolutely not. And they have to understand that, too. Anyway, back to your comments. I got a bunch of other things I want to talk about here, too.

[00:24:29]uh including uh the prime minister in New York today too. Oh, here we go. We had that good point. I think Carney has to be very careful about what he says and does given the authoritarian regulations that seem to be coming from the south. Yeah. Uh he I think he's a cog. He's aware of that. He knows what's going on. Uh and and I think he is stepping lightly, but he's stepping in the right direction. Uh AKD says, "Uniquely Gillian said, I saw Carney make the comment about making the US great again. Unfortunately, Power and Politics wasted a whole segment complaining about these comments and went way overboard. It's pathetic. Uh I saw that with I'm glad you brought that up. I I got a quote here someplace. I wrote it down uh because our our good friend Mr. Polyv again sarcasm uh commented about that and uh this is this is what Peter Paul had to say about this. He says he says I'm not clear where the prime minister stands on US relationship. He says on the one hand he says that we are in the middle of a rupture with the United States while on the other hand he says he wants to make America in his words great again. He can't seem to decide if integration with the US is a strength or a weakness. Uh can somebody please school polyv about politics and about the economic realities? I I know he went to school and it's six or seven years he got himself a ba a bachelor of arts degree and he's now telling us that the prime minister who's got six or eight different degrees went to Harvard went to Oxford was the governor of the bank of Canada the bank of of the UK uh apparently has not he's not smart economics I mean first of all right off the bat that should disassociate and disr disenfranchise polyv he has no bloody idea what he's talking about what the prime minister said today was he said if Canada is strong it will make America great again. Okay, that partnership and what he referred to if you saw the whole speech and read it is the prime minister was saying we used to have a really good relationship. We had well we had an auto packact first of all. Then we had the free trade policy.

[00:26:18]Then we had well the first iteration of KUSMA and it was working. Everything was fine. Yeah, there were some bumps along their line, but we talked about it and negotiated and say, "Okay, we'll fix this and we'll do that." Some patchwork was done. Then this clown comes along in the White House and and simply says, "I'm going to rip this whole thing up."

[00:26:35]And and it was his deal that he ripped up. So he's he's putting tariffs on things that should not have tariffs on them. they're against the rules of the the existing agreement that that technically they're illegal. U you know, you can take 16 years going through the international courts and try to get that decision, but he's doing this on his own. And Carney is simply saying, and by the way, he was not talking to Donald Trump today. He was talking to American business people. They're the money.

[00:26:59]They're the ones that are investing. And he's saying, "We got a lot going on in this country. We got stuff to offer.

[00:27:04]We've got minerals. We got oil. We've got aluminum. We got software lumber.

[00:27:08]You guys want it. we want to deal deal with you, but you know, it's got to be a fair deal and there's got to be some and he's talked about this. He says, you know, we've talked about bringing back the the the back and forth that went on with the auto industry and, you know, the the mutual benefit to both countries. Uh, and he's he's speaking to those people because that's where the money is. And I got to think that some of those same people that were in that audience today in New York or who watched the speech in in other American cities are getting pretty pissed off with the Trump administration because they're losing money. Businesses are losing money. The economy there is going to hell in a hand cart. Inflation is up.

[00:27:43]Um and they're looking at options and solutions. And it's about time a guy like Prime Minister Carney goes down to New York and says, "Hey, wait a second.

[00:27:51]Uh we can help you." And and if if if we're we're changed. We're not this we're not the country. I love the one of the lines he used there. We're not the country that was simply subservient to the United States and say, "Well, if that's the way you want it, I guess that's what we'll do." We're not that country anymore. That's not Canada anymore. That doesn't mean we're your enemy. It means that we're a stronger friend. So don't piss us off and don't crap all over us and we can work together and both of us can benefit from that's what he's saying. Sadly, a guy like Paul just doesn't have the intuition to be able to understand that.

[00:28:21]That's pretty sad that a guy in politics that aspires to be the leader of the country someday, God help us, doesn't seem to get that. Uh, Annalie says, "One thing I remember was Christmas time both sides of the party joined together in the center and gave each other hugs when Otul was the leader. Otul was let go nut." I lost my last part of that too.

[00:28:40]Uh, yeah, I mean that's and again was a conservative, not a a maple mega guy. uh which is one of the reasons why they didn't have a whole lot of time for be I think he he he sang from that song sheet to try to get the job and and he was successful. Yeah, I can be an extreme right-winger like you guys. But then he he he proved not to be to his credit but that wasn't the sort of thing that the uh conservative members wanted at that time. Hey Tyson Ebie did an interview with the current on CBC that was really interesting listen on why a northern route would compromise all the uh inigitious development in the province. Uh yeah I listen he's got his points of view but on the same time I've also seen interviews with him where he said look at we can be flexible let's talk about it and his point was uh that I can't talk about it with the other groups if you don't bring me to the table and that's why BC has to be a part of these discussions and what's going to be happening going forward uh these are negotiable points but you know we have to start the negotiations AKD says I haven't seen anything on on the mainstream media in Canada speaking about Oakster's involvement with the US voting app uh the family connection.

[00:29:45]Yeah. For two years with the Centurion Project in their app investigating uh into the voter list. Uh yeah, he's got his fingers all over that. And we did talk about that on the last live stream, I guess about a week or so ago, uh about that particular aspect and and Holster's involvement in this. And uh his his excuse, as flimsy as it is, was that well, yeah, that's that's the company I'm affiliated with, but you know, we don't look over everything they do. You know, we we fund them and help them out, but we had no idea that they were doing anything like this. Well, that's BS. We know there's a pretty strong argument to be made that he that his company directed them to do these sorts of things. You you're dealing with bad actors here, okay? From Trump to Hoaxra to to right on down the line here with the Trump administration, the mega people, and they're trying to disrupt the Canadian parliamentary system, the Canadian economy, and they'll do whatever they can to try to do that. And we got to be aware of that, too. Uh Granny says, "I'm seeing in the US news a real push." I'll put that one back up here uh about what's happening with Granny here. I want to get her thoughts on on what's going on in the US news, too. Uh because it it can be frustrating. I mean, because we hear these sorts of stories and we hear some of these opinions and say, "Wait a minute, that's just not true." And and I'd like to see some push back. And and we talked about Oh, here's Granny again.

[00:30:58]A real push to turn American people against Canadian people. And I'm certain it's deliberate, hostile, longest border in the world is perfect. Uh and that's it's a deliberate effort to try to get people to to hate Canadians now. And I've seen those comments uh from some of the people that are now realizing that hey second when we when we you know decide we're not going to buy Canad or American alcohol or we decide we're not going to visit down there now all of a sudden they're saying well the Canadians are being unfair. Nobody nobody down that south of the border in the states or in government is suggesting well you know why look at what we did we we we're trying to ruin their auto industry.

[00:31:33]We're trying to kill their steel industry. Uh and they're and they're pushing back. They don't they don't present that side of the argument. All they show is that that what Canadians are doing right now is is is a response to the fact that you're trying to kill our economy. You want us to be a 51st state. I mean, where's the push back here, people? You know, we're your friends. We've been your friends for for the from the beginning of time and we've had great relationship relationships politically and economically. Uh, you know, don't listen to this crap out of the White House that we're bad people.

[00:32:03]We're not. Rebecca says, "Unbelievable.

[00:32:06]The US demands provinces put their alcohol back on our shelves and that doing so would not be considered a concession in negotiations. Leblanc and power politics handled that well. Yeah, I saw that episode, Rebecca, just it was just a little while ago. Uh because they asked Jameson Greer, who's the lead negotiator for the Trump people, well if if if the Canadians did that, and by the way, that was not a federal decision. It was the pro provinces themselves that decided to pull the alcohol off the shelves. But uh Jameson Greer said that yeah, go ahead and put it on. it would be a sign of goodwill. And they said, "Well, would that help with, you know, the negotiations? Would it relieve some of the tariffs?" Absolutely not. Not at all. Which is typical of the Trump attitude. They don't want to negotiate.

[00:32:47]They don't want reciprocal trade deals.

[00:32:48]They simply want to take. They take take. They haven't put anything on the table right now in in the way of of of compromise. That's not what these guys want to do. They just want to take what we want that they want, and they get pissed off every time we say, "No, we're not going to play ball with you anymore." Hi, Mystic. I'm a bit concerned about inviting American businesses to invest in our country's businesses and industries. I know I'm not an expert in government, diplomacy, business, or economics, but I do worry.

[00:33:13]Uh I go back to what I said, and I understand your concern about that. Uh but we've touched on that in some of the podcasts we've done over the last little while. Uh the key to that, and one of the tools that should be used here is is borders and in other words, guard rails about how much is allowed, how much ownership is allowed, etc. Uh, Manzella says, uh, carbon Harper H26 problem with some US investment and jobs. They're here for the short term. Well, then, uh, let me go back to the Harper situation because because it does tie in with what we just heard from the the other uh, element here, too. Uh, Carmen says, "American businesses can bring jobs.

[00:33:47]That's what we need." Yes. Yes, that's true. And yes, American dollars and American investment is much needed here, of course, because they got a lot of money to spend and to invest. But you can't let them gain control. All right, we just talked about how the much of the Canadian media now is being controlled by MAGA people because it's owned by Americans. Steven Harper passed that legislation. There were guard rails in place already that said the the Americans can invest here, but they can't take over majority ownership of whatever entity it is. In this case, it was the media, the press. Harper abolished that and said, "No, come on in. You want to take you want to buy out the national post, go ahead. You want to buy out the Sun newspapers, go ahead."

[00:34:25]So that it basic and these are the same guys now you know Harper and his type they're saying well you know we got to stand up for sovereignty you gave our sovereignty away Mr. Harper and and now we're suffering the consequences of that and I'm concerned about that too about jobs and about you know their investment in this and taking over companies but you again the governments can control that and it comes down to how these things are negotiated how much control they're allowed to have how much they're allowed to invest and and if if those rules are in place and if they're enforced then you can curtail that and you can control that. Okay. Uh Annie says we don't have to share the same political views to do business together any more than we do with China or any other country. Uh and Prime Minister Carney's talked about that and it's a very important point. I'm glad you brought that into the conversation. Uh listen, we deal with China. The Americans deal with China. Where's that number? I've got that right over here. I always keep it handy because it comes up almost every time we do a live stream.

[00:35:20]Uh and this is Oh, this is 2024. The last time we had statistics on this, uh, Americans have imported from China, imported uh, close to $400 billion dollar annually in Chinese goods. So don't give me this crap that, you know, Canada's, you know, going off against China and that's that's totally against the the American way of doing it. The Americans have been doing business with China for a long long time and uh, every country does and you don't have to agree politically or ideologically with them.

[00:35:51]uh but you have to deal with them on a trade level on an economic level and countries do that. We have the same sort of situation with India right now. Um and you know we need uh those those partnerships economically u every country does and I think one of the mistakes we've made in the past is that we cut off our nose to spite our face with some of these things. We didn't agree with some of the things they did politically, so we said, "Okay, we're cutting off economic ties." And it hurt the Canadian economy and and we're trying to rectify that now with some of the things that we're doing. Hey, Sloopy. I still think Mr. Harper is one of the ones behind this separatist issue and he's the one who will be looking at taking a huge bite out of the Canada pension fund on behalf of Smith. Uh yeah, I know a lot of people have concerned that that Harper is one of the guys pulling the the strings behind this whole thing. Uh time will tell, I suppose. Uh Harper is doing business with Warcheek in Israel and chums around with Joe Lonsdale on his podcast. Uh Harper is a a strong advocate for right-wing politics, okay? An extreme right-wing politics. Uh you know, he was a big fan of of Orban in Hungary. Uh and a good buddy of his and and you know, we've seen how that went and what kind of destruction that reaped upon the the country of Hungary and the people of Hungary. Uh that's what this guy's all about. uh just the fact that he didn't carry out doing that sort of thing here in Canada doesn't mean that's not still not uh what he's espousing uh be careful about that u Paul Ev is an advocate he's a disciple of Steven Harper uh and and the Maple Mega movement so you know we we under have to identify who people are and what they stand for and and you know just are they putting their political ideology ahead of the country yeah a lot of them are and and that's something we need to be mindful of anyway good point thanks for bringing that up u we'll talk about the uh the the speech that Carney made and the impact that it's having. Um question I got Oh, let me do this one first here. Uh Kilawant says, "Premier Canoe is my dude. He was blunt with Daniel Smith in a kind Canadian way."

[00:37:46]Yeah, he said it with a smile on his face and he didn't say, "Well, I think we might take He said, "No, we must we know what you said was wrong." He didn't say, "Well, you know, let's question."

[00:37:55]He said, "No, you're wrong." It was a definite answer. And I'm sure the camera was not on her when he said that, but I'm sure that she was spitting out her water or whatever because I I don't think you expect that sort of behavior uh when you invite other premers to and you know and you're the host for this that that there'd be some difference to the fact that well she's the host here.

[00:38:13]I can't really jump all over it. No, he did. And it needed to happen and he did it and he did what I think everybody in the country was watching and said, "Yeah, bang on, man. It's about time somebody spoke and spoke and stood up to her because it's not happening too often in in Alberta." these days and and again at that level uh I think I think Canoe scored a lot of points and I think he really echoed the sentiments that a lot of people not just in Alberta are feeling but in Canada are feeling too u and and again canoes by and and talking about other things too about economic development you know and he was the also it was canoe that also offered the opinion just after he told Smith that she was dead wrong about all this stuff says why don't we just put this thing off for a couple of years because we we got things to do here we have you know, we have the the Churchill thing, we have the pipeline to build. Uh we're not wasting our time. We're wasting our energy on this separation crap out of Alberta when we could be could be doing all the things that needed to be done to make this a better country. And he's absolutely right. Daniel Smith is trying to control the narrative here and and we just can't let that happen. There are too many good things happening and we talked about some of those things earlier in the show. Uh Linda says the the look on Smith's face when Canoe corrected her was priceless. I think she was biting her tongue. Uh good good on her. Uh it's about time more people stood up for this now. And again, this has to come organically from from out there. Uh because if if if Mark Carney starts talking and he's he's been pretty pointed about his concern and criticisms about the separation movement out there, but it's easy for the separatists out there to dismiss whatever the prime minister says because they're going to say, "Well, he's from Ottawa. You know, they're the bad guys. You know, Ottawa screws us all the time, so expect that."

[00:39:53]Right. Uh Mystic says, "I was gratified that Premier Canoe spoke up and said what so many of us are thinking."

[00:39:58]Absolutely. Bang on. How many How many people that were watching that media conference or if he saw the the news clip of it later on just jumped up and said, "Yeah, right. That's it. About time." Uh you know, saying what a lot of people were thinking. Um and and and that has to happen from those people. Uh because it's it can't just come from Ottawa. I think we know where the prime minister stands on these issues. Uh but it's easy to dismiss that. And it's it's got to be the rest of Canadians, including other Western premers, by the way, that have got to say, "Stop this nonsense. Let's start running the country here." Uh JCON says, "Kinu speaks his mind with a lovely disarming smile." Uh yeah, he does. Uh he he quite a story. I don't know if you saw the the media conference after that. Uh he was talking about he was the only premier, by the way, of those Western premers that actually met with indigenous groups and talked to them about their concerns.

[00:40:47]Danielle Smith certainly hasn't done that. she doesn't think it's necessary, but none of the other premers did too.

[00:40:53]And that was kind of kind of surprising.

[00:40:54]But he said, you know, he he went and talked to them and listened to them and and and nodded his head and came to an agreement and I he said they all went to A&W for lunch after that. U kind of a disarming smile. He's got a great sense of humor. He's but at the same time there's a sense of reality and I think a sense of purpose to what he's saying.

[00:41:12]You know, you don't have to be angry to make your point. You just have to be intelligent about it. And that's what Canoe is doing right now. And uh we need more of that. in Canadian politics at the provincial level uh certainly at the federal level on both sides of the house. By the way, we've finally got a premier and a prime minister uh that's standing up for for certain parts of the country right now. Uh it's about time everybody else started to follow the parade. If you don't have the ability to do that or the vision to do that, just get in behind the people that are running the parade right now, okay?

[00:41:39]Because we all need to be going in the same direction here. uh that's the only way that we're going to survive and thrive in in this uh because we're still facing these major issues that we talked about. And says PP completely misconstrued what Connie said about mega. I I I don't know and I've made this point before and I know that I'm getting some criticism from a lot of people when I when I talk about my thoughts about poly and saying well you're picking on him all the time. I'm not I'm I'm concerned that this guy either doesn't understand what's going on and that's tragic or does understand and simply wants to mislead people and that's just as tragic that you know the his his rea detra is simply to demean and to try to to misinform people. Uh that's not what leaders do and which tells me that Paul is just not a leader.

[00:42:25]Sorry guys u you know you picked the wrong guy. I don't know who it should have been, but uh he's he's doing nothing but but screwing this country around, misleading this country, and it's it's really holding us back. Uh now we've got a prime minister finally who's got a vision, who's got a direction, uh and is doing things. I mean, look at this past week. You know, we had the deal about, you know, the the LG contract with the the German company, great deal. Uh the purchase of the uh the airplanes for the the RCAF uh from from Saab, great deal. A number of other initiatives that are already being agreed upon and signed on. Um, and you know, we're working here and we're moving forward and we don't need naysayers like Paul who's got nothing else to bring to the conversation except yeah, I well, I think it's wrong or he doesn't have anything to say. There's no vision. There's no understanding there.

[00:43:13]Um, anyway, enough about him. Just it makes me angry and it it just, you know, mis misconstrly where we should be going here. I don't think anybody picks on PP.

[00:43:23]His character is suspect. Kiloansa.

[00:43:25]Yeah, I I I get that, too. and and you know just I I can respect people that have different opinions. Okay. Uh Griffith says PP is a bully. He deserves what he gets. Well, that's his style, right? That's what this guy is all about. And I've seen some of the comments from some of the I think it was a couple of guys in the National Post over the last couple of days that said, you know, maybe maybe Paul's time has come. Maybe people are going to get so, you know, ticked off about the economy and housing and everything that they're going to say, maybe this guy was right.

[00:43:52]First of all, he hasn't changed us.

[00:43:54]That's the same story that he's been giving us for the last couple of years now. And no, he's not right. Okay. Every time this guy opens his mouth, it's it's full of misinformation. And and no, we don't need a leader like that. God help us. We can't have a leader like that. Uh Liz Rock says, "Every night I go to bed, I think that we have Carney instead of PP." I think a lot of Canadians do.

[00:44:14]Don't forget that we are concerned. What I I found interesting about this was I think it was an Ipsos poll that came out, one of the great public opinion polls in this country that said Canadians are concerned. We're concerned about the economy. We're concerned about the price of housing. All these things that we've talked about. They're concerned about food inflation, but they don't totally blame the federal government for it. You know why? Because they're informed. because a lot of people in this country and I I'd like to think that we contribute to that, but there are others that are doing what we're doing here and and a few others not so much in the mainstream media anymore sadly that are informing people and thankfully people are doing their own homework and finding out about this to realize that hey wait a second the outrageous money I'm paying for gasoline when I go to fill the car up it's not the federal government's fault and they can take this tax off and that tax and that's going to take two or three cents off. It's the idiot in the White House that caused this whole thing. Trump started the war with Iran. That's why the prices have gone up. That's one of the reasons why farmers in North America right now are not getting enough fertilizer. And the ones that they they can get the fertilizer paying an arms and a leg for it because of this idiot.

[00:45:19]All right. Inflation is is caused by misinformation uh from from entities like the Trump administration about where the economy and where things are going. U our government has a role to play. Certainly they do and they I think they acknowledge that and they talk about this. But, you know, if you're that simple-minded that you're going to blame everything that's wrong in your life and saying, "Well, that's got to be the prime minister." And I I hear from people all the time every day like that, you know, the the the F Trudeau flags that some people were flying and now F.

[00:45:46]Carney, you have no idea what you're talking about. And you know what? When you do that and you make those sorts of statements, you're only showing your own ignorance. Canadians are smarter than that. And I think they understand that.

[00:45:56]And that doesn't mean we're not, you know, giving the government a free pass and say, "Just keep doing what you're doing. Everything's going to be fine."

[00:46:01]We want action on that. But if you pay attention and more and more Canadians are now paying attention, they can see that yeah, this government is acting on this. They have a big announcement about housing the other day that that the prime minister made while he's in Ottawa about uh you know another uh I guess it's rebates I guess on some of the new houses. So they're working on plans like this and of course you're never going to hear for that stuff from from Polyv.

[00:46:26]That's that's not what he wants to talk about. He just wants to to whine and complain. Hey, Carmen says, "20 years of neglect will not be fixed overnight.

[00:46:33]Provincial governments have to let uh well, I'll get back in a second here. I I got off on a tangent about some of these things. I'm sorry. Uh K, let me finish this off for you. Uh governments have let their provinces down as well.

[00:46:44]AB votes the same every time with the same results. Uh you know, something there's a I want to direct your attention. Uh there's a writer that I've referenced here on the show uh before.

[00:46:54]His name is Max Faucet. I believe Max is in Alberta actually. uh and he writes for Policy magazine and a couple of other publications and he made an interesting point the other day and only somebody from Alberta I guess could say this but he says he said the problem in Alberta is not Ottawa he says it's it's Alberta elects bad politicians. Uh now as a guy from Ontario if I said that they're going to say you don't know what you're talking about but I think I think he's bang on. Uh if all you do is elect people that are simply going to blame everything that's wrong with you on somebody else, that's not leadership.

[00:47:27]Those aren't the kind of people you want leading your province, your city, your country, okay? It's it's people like Mark Carney that are going to say, "Look at I get this. There have been some bad decisions made in the past. We're going to rectify those and we're going to bring you a vision and a plan forward."

[00:47:40]Okay? But all I have all from as long back as you want to go. Okay. All right.

[00:47:46]Um DD says the Liberals are growing in Alberta, but nobody talks about them. Uh I don't know what's going to happen in that next election, but federally there was a time uh when when you know Albertans elected some some liberals in the crutchian years uh that the people were elected and Mlullen comes to mind among others. Ralph Goodell in Saskatchewan was elected and did a great job as a finance minister uh under the Paul Martin government too. But if all you're going to do is elect people that are going to blame somebody else and and you listen for the last however many years you want to go and it's Danielle Smith uh and before I mean there's other people that have been like this too and all they want to do is blame everything that's wrong with the province and say well it's Ottawa they're screwing us around. Uh that's that's not leadership.

[00:48:30]Okay that's fingerpointing and any any juvenile can do that. What you want are people that are going to have vision and some understanding about trying to create partnerships and and you know Danielle Smith doesn't seem to want to do that. I mean he got dragged to the table because the prime minister essentially put this this thisou about the pipeline out there. Uh how could she not say yes? And you know that's a long way from being completed. We get that.

[00:48:53]Uh but you've got to got to have I think some responsibility here as voters to say you've got to put the right people in place. And if all you're going to do is vote for the same party all the time because well that's what my dad and my granddad voted for and you're not paying attention to what they're doing or not doing or what they're saying then you've only got yourself to blame. Uh u there's some discussion going on about what's going to happen in Alberta politically especially proincially too and oh and Watt's got that too. Uh yes about NI.

[00:49:21]I'm in Ontario but I watch his YouTube shorts and he's got it uh about Don Basani. Uh yeah, he does complain uh about what's happening uh with with some of the things.

[00:49:33]Yeah, Neni, I I I met Neni years ago when he was the mayor of Calgary. He was in Hamilton when I was doing the radio show and he actually came in for about an hour or so. I think he was addressing the Hamilton Chamber of Commerce or something. Smart guy, bright guy, and got some very smart ideas and insightful ideas. I don't know if he's if he's got the the the stuff to make a major change here in Alberta. They have elected an NDP government in the past. Rachel Notley was an NDP premier because they got so pissed off with the way that the Conservatives were running things. Will it happen again? I don't know. I don't know. Uh but he's he's certainly a strong politician and a strong leader.

[00:50:08]And I'd like I'd like to see just what's going to happen. But right now, and again, they're not even talking about that. Linda says, "Bill, can you please remind Albertans to sign the uh water, not coal petition? Time is running out."

[00:50:18]Uh yeah, there's and again your point, Linda, is well taken because we've what we're talking about here is is is it's deflection. As long as Daniel Smith's got Albertans talking about this referendum and how, you know, we're getting a raw deal and maybe we'd be better off. And they're not they're not dealing with the issues that are relevant to Albertans. And you know, you got to open your eyes to this and understand what's going on here. It's deflection. You know, we're screwing up the health care system. There's a big debate here about uh conflict and about corruption going on with education payments, but let's change the channel.

[00:50:53]Let's have them talk about separation.

[00:50:56]Uh and and it's it's an old game that politicians play and I'd like to think that that voters are going to get smarter about that over the next little while. Uh Annie says Canada needs more political engagement right now more than ever. Uh absolutely and and again um you can't get lazy about it. Okay? You can't simply say, "Well, I'm going to go to the same sources or the same web pages or the same sites or the same, you know, social media platforms, uh, because I feel comfortable with those." Make yourself uncomfortable. Listen to other opinions. Listen to what other people have to say. Not saying you necessarily have to agree with them, but you have to understand where they're coming from and what they're thinking, okay? And simply say instead of simply hating them because they say something that you don't agree with. Don't you sort of wish Cretchen would give Trump the old shinigan handshake?

[00:51:42]Uh yeah uh uh Cretchian just turned what 92 a couple of weeks ago. Uh interesting guy and a fascinating politician. Uh AK says anyone else think it's suspicion that Smith got the top level security clearance just as the voter list issue came out and host canceled his speech in Ottawa Ceus giving her updates. She is a spy. Uh well and again uh there's certain a sense of complicity here, isn't there? And you're right. The timing on this whole thing with the league voters list and the the information uh was shall we say interesting. Okay. Uh and I don't believe in coincidences especially when it comes to politics. Uh and I'd like to get the whole story on that. The problem is it's going to be very hard to to dig and get the whole truth there because you got a bunch of liars and and people in the mega administration south of the border that are controlling the narrative there and then they're simply not going to say, "Yeah, it was us." Uh so you know we have to be aware and we have to be responsible for our our own political ideologies here but at the same time you got to know who the players are. And I as I mentioned this I mentioned this a little a couple of minutes ago and I want to reiterate it again. There's a lot of of of foreign interference going on and there's a lot of American influence to try to screw this whole thing up in Alberta right now. That's what it's all about. And they're not even hiding it. They're not saying no we're not involved. They're not there. They they're they're right there. I don't know how much money they're giving them. They deny they can deny about the money, but you can tell that there's certainly an influence that's going on there right now. Uh Boomspack says right after she came back from Saudi Arabia, uh the the discussions going on here, of course, has to do uh with the Well, I'll get to that in a second. True Canadian says, "I came in late, but I think Carney is not only laying the foundation for the postTrump era. There's no point in burning that bridge entirely, but attracting business to Canada." Yeah, I I think what he did and I I if you just jumped in here, uh I mentioned this because I watched the speech. I I've read some of the analysis of it. Uh and the Q&A after that, by the way, was quite insightful, too. Uh he's not saying, "Hey, we want to be buddies with Donald Trump." He's not saying, "Let's just forget about everything that happened." He's saying, "Look at this is about investment. We need investment. We need investment from India. We need investment from from China. We need investment from the UK." uh that what makes our economy thrive is is that confidence that that people that have billions and billions of dollars to invest are going to say, "I want to do this in Canada." That's what got this LG pipeline going that that was announced the other day. It's confidence in the Canadian economy. That's private sector money that's coming in here. And and what Carney did today in New York was talk to those billionaires down there that have that kind of money or at least had the control of that kind of money.

[00:54:22]Said, "Bring it up here. Look what we've got. Look at the instability you have in the states right now. I know you're hesitant to invest in a lot of the stuff going on in the states because you got a whack job in the White House and and your economy is on pins and needles because of what he's doing with Iran.

[00:54:36]Look, come back up here. We're a safe haven. People that invest billions and billions of dollars want stability. They want a return on their investment. And they're not going to invest billions and billions of dollars into a government for instance that may fall or fall apart or create, you know, ridiculous inflation like like Trump has done in the States. But if they look at Canada and say, "Hey, look at what this guy's doing. Look at that. Look at, you know, things are happening here. People are investing here, you know, success breeds success. It takes one or two of these major projects with private sector money and all of a sudden the other people that have got this money are saying, "Hey, that's working for them." Word of mouth is a big big player here when it comes to how investments actually come to be. Um you know you can politician after politician banging on the sod give us your money. Uh you got to create the environment and show them that we have the environment for that to happen.

[00:55:28]That's what Carney was doing in New York today. Our says is the American money to Smith being investigated and will there be consequences? I I I'm told uh the short answer to that is I'm told that the RCMP is aware of that. And the RCMP traditionally and rightly, by the way, should not talk about investigations that are ongoing until they finally have some results. There have been some issues where that's happened in the past and it's, you know, when when the RCMP tries to get political, uh, it's not a good thing. So, if they are investigating it, uh, please do and and others that are involved in this too.

[00:56:01]there. I think you know when in the fullness of time when we get some of the details about what's happening with Alberta and with Danielle Smith and with the Trump people uh it's going to be shocking. It's may not going to happen in time uh for this decision because they're going to be doing this thing in October I guess uh one way or another.

[00:56:17]Uh but uh you know go within people Alberta please go in with your eyes wide open on this would you? Uh Liz Rock says we lost all investments and corporations in 95 in Quebec. Maybe Albertans could learn from this. political instability kills. Uh you if you went through that, Liz, and it sounds like you did. I I know that people are going to say, "Well, there were other factors." Yeah, the the French only bill was a major factor in that. I get that. But again, it goes back to the point I just made, isn't it? Instability.

[00:56:44]If governments are creating instability, the people with the money are going to say, "We're out of here. That's it.

[00:56:50]Forget it. Not happening." And and that's what's happening in in the states right now. Danielle Smith is creating the same environment in Alberta.

[00:56:58]Instability.

[00:57:00]You know, should I invest in a pipeline?

[00:57:01]Hell no. I don't know what the government's going to be like. I don't know who's going to be the government. I don't know what's going to happen there.

[00:57:07]Who know? No. No. We're not going to invest in that. It's it's it's self-defeating.

[00:57:13]And I I I don't know if she's a stupid lady. I don't think she is. So, is she doing this on purpose to try to scuttle the whole thing? It's a question worth asking, isn't it? about just what her ma motivation is and her purpose is. Does she want to be the first governor of of of the new state of of Alberta and you know the 51st state? I don't know. I don't know. But she's sure acting like it. You know, don't how many thousands of times have I said this, Mariline, on the show. Don't just listen to what they say, watch what they do. And that's what you need to do with politicians. Jay Con says, "We need the law back in place to protect Canadian interests. You can't allow foreign interests to own majority in Canadian assets." I agree. Uh it's awfully hard to put the genie back in the bottle though, isn't it? Uh once Stephen Harper will release that and these guys are running rampant and doing this uh not just with the broadcasting and the the media institutions but with others as well. Uh there used to be pretty strong restrictions about foreign ownership. Not so much anymore and it's awfully difficult to try to get that back. Uh and you certainly can't go back uh you know to to the mega people that run for instance the national post and and some of these other uh media. let's and say you can't own this anymore. Uh, you know, cuz the previous guy let that happen. Kellyanne says people can't afford food and gas and they're building a fight cage for entertainment at the White House. It's the Hunger Games, isn't it, though? Yeah. Yeah. It's uh, you know, they're building uh, well, there's the ballroom. Let's not forget about the ballroom, right? Uh, there's the big arch that Trump wants to build, you know, that's going to have his name on it. Uh, you know, there's now this there's this this the fight thing that's going on on the front line of the White House. They've paved over the rose garden. I mean, that used to be a beautiful place, of course, a very serene place, and a lot of important announcements were made there. It's a patio now. It looks like an outdoor patio for a pub. Uh, this is the way Donald Trump is ruining. And it's not his house. Need I remind you, and American people don't seem to pay much attention to that. The White House does not belong to the president. It belongs to the people of America. And you're letting him desecrate that that sacred house. Anyway, on that sad note, uh, we're pretty much going to have to wrap it up. So much more coming up here. Uh we do thank you for participating in the live stream tonight. Uh quick reminder, next week uh we're going to come a day early. Next week the live stream is going to be on Wednesday evening at same time, 7 o'clock uh Eastern time and uh 4:00, okay, on Pacific. That'll be Wednesday night, not Thursday next week.

[00:59:34]Okay. Uh and I'll tell you, I'm going to the football game, okay? I'm Tigerat fan. I'm a Hamilton guy and a Hamilton Tigerat fan. And the season opener is next week. So we've got some business out of town. So, it's going to be Wednesday for the live stream. Okay. Uh Dedray says, "Yeah, I heard about the rally in Alberta. People that need to get out hard." Uh there's a lot of movement going on in there. Just to finish it off on that note, uh because it's it's I know it's kind of gloomy at this stage, but is encouraging to see that there are a lot of people in Alberta right now that are saying, "Okay, it's about time we got off our asses and did something about this. We believe in Canada. Got our problems. We got our concerns, but we we're going to stay in Canada. That's the way it's going to be." And hopefully that's going to be the predominant line of thinking on that. Thank you to everybody for being a part of this. Uh for everybody else who jumped across here, uh reminder from uh from our producer Marine here says across Canada Day of Action is tomorrow in Alberta. Uh thanks for being great Canadians everybody. And thank you for being part of this too. And we'll talk about that on the the podcast.

[01:00:34]Okay. About the the Canada Day of Action that's coming up and the rep the impact it's going to have hopefully not just in Alberta but right across this country.

[01:00:41]Okay. Uh, Kellyanne says, "Enjoy yourself at the game." Well, I hope they win. Uh, it's been pretty tough for the Cats over the last couple of years, but thank you for that, Kellyanne. Thank you to Maline Kelly, my daughter, for doing all the great work in producing the program. Uh, we're back at you tomorrow, of course, with a number of different things that we want to talk about tonight with the podcast. Thank you for your support, thank you for your subscriptions, and thanks for your participation. Until next time, I'm Bill Kelly. Stay in touch.