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Ladies and gentlemen, >> Russell Branduss conspiracy theorist >> trying to bring real journalism to the American people.
>> Hello there you awakening wonders.
Thanks for joining me today for stay free with Russell Brand. Today's guest is Jim Gale. Here's some information about Jim Gail. Jim Gail is an entrepreneur, permaculture advocate, and founder of Food Forest Abundance. After building a successful mortgage company that reportedly generated over $1 billion in sales, a period of personal and financial upheaval led him to rethink what real security looked like.
Influenced by time spent in nature and studying regenerative systems, he shifted his focus toward permaculture and food sovereignty. Now, through food, forest abundance, he designs edible landscapes for homes, schools, and communities while promoting food security, self-reliance, and regenerative living through projects like the Freedom Farm Academy.
I'm fascinated to talk to Jim because I'm interested in establishing new communities that are off-grid and are not controlled by centralized, hypocritical, corrupt forces, whether that's media, government, or commercial.
That's why now we're devoting our time to learning from people who can instruct us in running our own communities. As part of my campaign to become mayor of London in 2028, we'll be bringing to the forefront policies and ideas designed to make participatory democracy normal referenda. Like in Switzerland, where four times a year people vote on stuff that's important to them. Well, why not have a London where you vote on the London that you want to live in? And why not have those principles wherever you live? The technology exists. Indeed, permaculture is in part based on the idea that technology could be used to give you food freedom rather than have food centralized and controlled. And while we're on that subject, why do you think there are agricultural protests all over the world right now? Because centralized power is trying to co-opt control over food. Eat the bugs. Own nothing. Be happy. Well, not while Jim Gale has got a say in it. Here's my conversation with Jim Gale.
Jim, thanks so much for joining us for the show.
>> Oh, thank you so much, Russell. It's wonderful to be here, brother.
>> What you're looking at right now, mate, because like we've started doing shows where we invite people on to tell us how we could create fully independent, autonomous communities where if we wanted, we could be off-rid. What's the point in switching one corrupt politician for another competition corrupt politician, whether that's at a national level or a local level? It's the system itself that needs to change.
And as long as people are dependent on a scarcity mindset and can't feed themselves or provide energy, we'll be enslaved to this corrupt system. My understanding is, Jim, that you've found one of the key components for getting us out of this prison.
Russell, I have I am going to demonstrate and show you and your amazing audience right now the solution to all of the world's biggest problems.
It's stewardship. It's earth care and people care. It's taking care of the land, which when we take care of the land, a tiny investment in stewardship will result in the most epic ROI. It's God's ROI. So, five for like 3 months ago, this system behind me was all brown. We had a mega freeze. It was all dead. And now it's a mega it's an incredible food production system.
In this system we have about 70 different types of perennial food producing plants. And when we create mass adoption when we create awareness that leads to mass adoption of stewardship it's the only way that we are going to win this war. And any plan that does not lead with stewardship, earth care, and people care is a lie.
I've noticed that Bill Gates is the most obvious example of billionaires that acquiring land, acquiring in particular farmland. I know too that many people in positions to do so are bunkering up and acquiring remote properties. And my strong sense is that by 2030 or around 2030 through successive crisis events, further authoritarianism will be leveraged on people of various countries if not all countries. And what I've been thinking, Jim, is that we need to create a confederacy of independent autonomous communities that are food independent and energy independent that use cryptocurrencies to trade with one another and use information technology to communicate with one another, but each community is fully independent and fully autonomous. Are you saying that through permaculture we could create food independent? I'm not saying that we could. I'm demonstrating that we are.
Our family homestead right behind me is 100% off-rid. We are non-compliant with government. We built our family homestead without asking for permission.
We did not get permits. I recognized the risk in this. And two and a half years ago, a government agent came to my house and he demanded to see building permits.
And I walked up to him with my camera on and I shared with him that compliance with your agency will lead to the death of our world. And he basically said, um, "Show me the way." And I did. And he started crying. He's he told me, "Jim, I'm a pastor on the weekends." And he left my house in tears. He said, "I will never bother you again, and the government has never been back."
Jim, that's a really inspiring story and I really hope that as a result of this appearance, you don't have a Waco style disaster on your hands because one of my great teachers and mentors tells me that as soon as you make that assertion, government, don't come in here, that's when it really, really starts. As soon as you start to demonstrate whether it's as like our mutual friend Joby weeks that Bitcoin can make you independently wealthy and presents a challenge to centralized finance or whether in information technology you can communicate offssage information to large numbers of people you become a kind of threat to this system. But I'm I'm going through a lot at the moment and I can't talk directly about some of it because uh you know contempt of court laws and the potential of my bow being withdrawn. But I'm very very interested Jim in community. I'm tired of the [ __ ] man. I'm tired of participating within their system. I'm tired of like coming up with, "Oh, maybe if I do this or that, you know, I'm thinking about running for political office, specifically mayor of London, but only so London can be a place of referenda like Switzerland, where you'd say to the population, you don't really need a mayor. You can vote on all of these issues. Here is my suggestions and guidance. We'll look at your polling data and we'll do what you tell us to do." like political systems should be administrative bureaucracies with no power at all except for the power of consensus. Um we can't achieve that, can we? If they can just turn off taps and starve us and switch off our energy.
Brother, what I'm sharing with you is the idea whose time has come stronger than all of the armies of the world.
It's what Sun Sue was referring to when he said, "Know thyself, know thy enemy.
A thousand battles, a thousand victories." I've been on about a thousand podcasts and I have spoken very clearly. I have publicly invited the sheriff and the tax collector and the mayor and the governor and the president to be stewards of our land. If anything happens to me, it'll only further the cause. So, the only thing they can do to me is censor me. We can't bring you this content without the support of our partners. Here's a message from One.
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>> Failure and desperation.
I started a mortgage company 30 years ago, did $1.3 billion in revenue, bought a boat, lived on the ocean, and then I learned that the world is controlled by some sort of evil. And then I went through the process of awakening and I invested every penny I had into the solution until I wound up dead broke six years ago because of the narrative, the false narrative of COVID. And I was desperate and I was not a man of full faith. And I was weeping and I was walking and I was begging God for guidance. And it hit me. It hit me real good. And I opened up my eyes and I could see clearly. And ever since that day, the miracles have been absolutely epic.
Tell me about some of those miracles.
I'm interested in your conversion to faith. if I'm a new believer in Christ myself and I reckon we'll get into that, but tell me tell me about uh tell me what happened and tell me about these miracles.
Well, I we are living offrid in a homestead that's absolutely epic.
Failure and desperation got me here. We have no money in the bank, but I've never felt wealthier in my life. We are surrounded by all the food, water, and energy that we could need. We are on a private 430 acre lake where we've got the only docks on the lake. On the east side of our property is a mile long runway where world leaders will be flying in to learn about regeneration and freedom. We are here. I am here to lead. I'm running for president of the fictitious conceived in hell idea of government. I am running for president to dismantle the whole [ __ ] thing.
That's good, Jim. Now, where do you think where do we where do you think we are? I'm having fun. Good, man. Good.
Good. Yeah. I think that don't get too intense, Jim. It scares people. I'M SPEAKING FROM >> I'M SPEAKING from experience, Jim.
>> You know, thank you, brother. So many people.
>> Yeah.
>> No, carry on. Carry on.
>> So many people have told me, Jim, you're going to get killed. You're going to get whacked. I'm like, you know what? I've contemplating that, but I've also contemplated my goal. My goal is for our kids to have a future. And right now, I'm hyper aware of the bee population collapse, the ecosystem, the plankton, the mining, the extraction, the agenda that is playing out before our eyes. I'm hyper aware that all of these distractions of governmente are simply taking our attention away from the fact that when we walk into the grocery store in the United States, it's poison. And one in three kids in the United States have diabetes and and they're suffering, right? All else is a distraction from the war that's actually happening all around us. And the solution to war is faith and courage and stewardship and service and transparency. It's all well and good you saying that you can have a permaculture utopia there with your 400 acre lake. What about normal people in towns and cities? How can they meet their own food resources? Jim, so this is so beautiful. Everybody can start growing food. That's all the world needs is mass adoption of awareness that leads to planting seeds. If people have a condo, we're working with homeless people, giving them sweet potato starts and they're creating sweet potato beds around their homeless encampments. So, there's nobody that can't grow food.
Everybody, and by the way, we have created um school reform models. In fact, here's I met with Bobby Kennedy two and a half years ago and I said, "Bobby, the campaign strategy that I'm going to share with you now, will not only win you a fair election, right? We all know that it's not fair, but the campaign itself will change the world."
And then he said, "Oh, really? Show me.
Tell me what is it?" So, I laid out four documents in front of him. The first talking point is I will take the poisons out of our schools and our children will heal. If this is the only thing we did is turn every school into a nursery and we added the curriculum of regenerative agriculture or permaculture or stewardship, then every school it would absolutely change the world in four years. Same thing with prison reform.
Same thing with park and county land reform. We literally have the answers to all of it and that's what the whole campaign platform which is called stewardshipparty.org.
That's what it's all about. Going to click the link in the description at the bottom of the screen and it'll take you directly there. Now, when I was a kid growing up, mate, uh they we had a lotments at the end of our street meant that the houses if they didn't have enough room could grow food down there.
It used to be considered a normal thing and like my grandparents' generation and parents that would have been a standard practice that you'd participate in the provision of your own food. And of course like mass centralized agriculture and big food benefit from us being absolutely dependent on very very cheap salt and sugar loaded synthetic foods that ultimately maybe cause more harm than good. Um, and I I I wonder, Jim, if it would be possible for a city like London to meaningfully participate in a scheme to provide a significant amount of its own food. Think about the climate in that place. You know, that cold, chilly old, grizzly old, drizzly old place. Would it be possible for London to be transformed?
Not only possible, it's not greenwashing. It's not this sustainable WEF initiative. It's fiscal infrastructure. When we simply take the poisons out and in fact in in America here, we have 50 million acres of lawn.
If we simply converted half of that into fruit trees and berry bushes with maybe some chickens running around, we would have enough food growing where the billion acres of poisoned farmland would go back to nature because there'd be no use for it in in a commercial sense.
Do you think that there's significant work done both administratively and in terms of the conscious levels or conscience levels of the American population to prevent those kind of ideas being popularized?
It is the fundamental deception of our world. We are working with incredible organizations like the Church of Glad Tidings where we're designing embassy gardens and we're integrating the schools into the practice. So the students can learn how to grow food at school. And so it's a matter not of new taxation or new force and violence and coercion of governmente. It's a matter of tweaking the resources that we are already using and using them more wisely.
I mean it's very exciting mate. Have you attempted to do it? Have you implemented it beyond your own residence? have and and two questions. One, have you and also are you are you meeting your energy needs? Are you truly off-grid there?
We're 100% offrid. We still buy food at the store because I don't know how to cook yet and I'm learning. Almost every day I eat fish and eggs and some fruit from the land. We have now designed there's an entity called foodforestabundance.com and we have designed permaculture landscapes for people in 54 countries and every US state and design creating the vision casting the vision is the first step in the process. I've also donated all of my assets to the stewardship of humanity. My family homestead belongs to a trust. It's it's my family's property. So, I own nothing and I'm happy. But not the way Klaus Schwab speaks it.
>> Yeah, I like that idea. I like the idea of returning to an identity that's not dependent on possessions but on who you are in the living flow. Hey mate, so like had you had these ideas prior to your religious experience? Tell me how how your religious experience has impacted and influenced all this.
My spiritual experiences um were fundamental. Without them, I would just be drinking on the curb somewhere or doing whatever. I' I'd probably be still a mortgage guy, right? Mortgage means death pledge. Um my awakening through intention and trauma and a lot of meditation and prayer. There's it's in layers. It's like peeling away the layers of an onion, right? Sometimes that comes with tears. And the awakening process, I'm I feel like I'm at a place now where most of the time I can sit quietly here and my head is completely silent. I can, like Tesla said, if you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration. But the word think is misplaced. If you want to truly experience the secrets of God, spirit, Christ consciousness, then feel the frequency, the energy, and the vibration and ask questions. And when we ask GI for questions, GI has the best answers. I've been going through this process that I'm calling peristalis, you know, like I'm going through this kind of crushing and then release, crushing and then release, crushing and then release. In the periods of feeling like crushed, it gets so close to it's so painful, Jim, that I just feel like I can't survive it. And then it releases and always accompanied with interesting insight. I came up with this phrase that I know you're going to love, blockchain Amish, that we should become the blockchain Amish, fully independent communities. um that but that we do use technology in order to trade and to but like the community itself whatever ideology the community has is up to the community. You could have an LGBTQ plus community if you wanted Muslim, Christian. It's not anyone else's business. You would have true individuality, true variety and diversity, not superficial diversity while under the surface homogeneity and total centralized control rules actually make every community independent in every single way possible.
Diversity is the foundation of strength of our system in permaculture and of humanity. So what I my foreign policy is very simple. It is to talk to the people and to share knowledge to share information and to share seeds because when we can help the people, the Muslims and the Jews and the Christians and all the different groups come together around one thing. Tikkum olum in in Jewish uh means uh in Hebrew means stewardship, right? And there's a Muslim word for stewardship. All communities around the world have a word for earth care and people care. And that's the binding element that stops all the wars when we share information. And by the way, this idea of free energy and blockchain. If we took 35% of the crypto market cap and we put it into food forestry, we would have 100 $1 million food forest nurseries in every single city in the world.
So how and right okay so what you're talking about firstly generate the revenue through the 30% market cap of crypto then have a a global initiative that would have to be decentralized and locally organized to implement forestry what's is that what's the term that you use food forest >> what does that mean like the garden of Eden it's like imagine that you're in the Garden of Eden and most everybody has a Garden of Eden narrative in their history. So imagine that you're sitting there. What would you like to see? Would like I'm looking at two different kinds of sugar cane and comfrey and aloe and mint and guavas and grapes and passion fruit and I could go on and on. That's what this is meant to be. And every zone has their plants. Every zone can do this, right? It's, you know, polar ice caps and tundra are a lot harder. I don't know why people live there, but they eat a lot of seals up there. My my point is is this can be done everywhere in the world, and it's a matter of creating the awareness. And Russell, that's why I'm so thankful to be on your show. I've sent several videos to you because I love your work for years now.
And this is absolutely an amazing day for me because this message is going to catalyze a shift in awareness that leads to thousands if not millions of people becoming stewards again and planting seeds. How does the technology help us to overcome the conditions that prevent growth? Because if you think about it, and and I know that you do cuz you're an absolute lunatic plainly, is that agriculture, while it met a lot of food needs, what it actually did is it centralized power and it reduced diet.
That's why people end up eating rice or potatoes or some crap like that. You don't eat varied food no more. Now, of course, it solved a lot of starvation issues, but what you're suggesting with your garden or forest model is a kind of um abundant hunter gatherer model in a sense that you're you're living in abundance, but with variety, but you've already said that not every environment affords the same type of soil. I'm always hearing the crop, there's only one more harvest left in the crop. I'm always hearing things like that in Europe. They're always saying stuff like that. And the farmers in every country across the world, by the way, are in crisis. Whether it's Sri Lanka or the UK or Germany, they're all getting top down edicts. They can't use this fertilizer.
They can't use that. They're getting destroyed. They're protesting in France.
They're protesting in my country.
They're protesting everywhere. So tell me, first of all, I mean, I obviously know why that is. It's cuz centralized interests are trying to control the food food sources and they're trying to shut down farms as a way of doing that. It's absolutely ridiculous really. But how um in a place like where I live now, I live in the panhandle, Jim. I'm not that far from you. I don't suppose mate like I'm up there um you know around Destin Panama City and all that.
>> So like here the land is very very dry.
I do know some people doing some farming and stuff like that. How are you what type of technology is being used to ensure that 365 you can meet uh the food a community's food needs?
>> Yes. So two uh answers to two different questions there. Henry Kissinger in 1974 as the head of the Council on Foreign Relations, the guy who appointed Claus Schwab and met with every US president said, "If you want to control nations, control energy. If you want to control people, control food." And so what we have right now is the black rocking, right? Black Rock is not only the name, it is the intention, right? By their deeds you shall know them. And I heard you say that many times. And so the first step is to be aware that this whole thing is an agenda. And what I've come to believe is this is what started with the original fear, the original seed of fear planted in the garden of Eden, which is planted in all of our minds through our our his stories, right? His story is a complete fabrication. It's a complete lie. It's time to write our story now. And so I am being the change that I want to see in the world on every conceivable level because there's nothing else that makes sense. We cannot hold fear and faith in the same body. So I'm choosing faith because I can't choose anything else anymore. Speaking of choosing stuff, you can choose to bet on so many different things on Poly Market, it's hard to keep up. When will the United States confirm that aliens are real? Even if they do, it's probably just a distraction. 2026 FIFA World Cup winner. I'm England all the way, but I don't see how they're above Brazil. Anyway, get on over to Poly Market and bet on anything, you crazy fools. Tell me about the technology, mate, to make food grow in dry land. Tell me about it.
>> So, it's called permaculture. First of all, catch and store water, >> right? That is in dry places. It's more relevant than anywhere. So, how do you do that? You create swailes, which are ditches on contour, and you fill them with biomass. Right now, they're greening areas of deserts across Africa by digging ditches like half moon-shaped ditches and then filling them up with seeds of hardy plants and biomass. So, if it rains once every 3 years, the rain soaks in and now they have a green wall being built. And this is done in every climate. here. I've got an illegal septic system and I've told the EPA, I cannot comply with you because compliance to your system means death, right? As they spray us and poison us at every level. And they're not bothering me because bothering me would be bad for them because of how outspoken I am and the fact that I'm right. And so my septic system creates the environment using a living microbiome for rapid decomposition of [ __ ] And then this whole system behind me is fertilized by our family septic. That's so cool. I once went to the Harry Krishna had a place in Mumbai um or just about an hour outside of Mumbai in India that was fully food independent and they were they were growing everything that they were eating. They were looking after their livestock. They were vegetarian of course the Harry Krishna and I was vegan back then. One thing I do remember is I couldn't get a good cup of coffee out of those people. They won't drink tea and coffee those Krishna but that that you know you can't you can't impose that on everybody. So what you're saying is that if you focus actually if you return the individual and community focus to basic ideas like provision of food and shelter using modern technologies that are always marshal towards centralization and the implementation of control rather than the facilitation of freedom then we could actually live a very different kind of life. A life that's more connected connected to the stewardship of of land and communication with one another. and you've achieved it yourself and you're participating in projects elsewhere. How is it? Can you tell me that you became friends with the fugitive u longest uh house arrest prisoner in American history, Joby weeks, Bitcoin entrepreneur, friend of the show and guest. How did you become friends with him?
>> So, he heard about what we were doing and he came here and he spent uh time here on several occasions and we had a blast. um that that fell he is is a hoot to hang around and we talked about solutions. He wrote a document probably over a decade ago now that lays out solutions. We have written lots of documents that lay out solutions. Now our job is to get awareness on these solutions and they include decentralized money. One of
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