La Junta y sus Métodos de Espionage. Jose Cohen

Added: 2026-06-02

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[00:07:02]Good night. I am Andrés Almurquerque, as you know, and this is our citizen focus space for today, Tuesday, May 19, 2026. Today is another anniversary of the death in combat of the apostle of independence, José Martí.

[00:07:35]On relevant topics I'm going to talk a little bit about Martí, although it may seem unnecessary, it may seem like a topic that's superfluous because everything, but sometimes it's good to remember the perspectives because you already find people out there who pretend that Martí would have behaved then in ways they don't behave today.

[00:08:07]Hey, he's snoring. Uh, but oh well, it doesn't matter. On relevant topics, I repeat that I will talk about the apostle of our independence. And well, as I promised you last week, I promised you yesterday, I have our friend José Pepe Cohen here who is going to talk to us about, among other things or fundamentally, the junta and its methods of espionage.

[00:08:48]Remember that this is one of the few classrooms, not just now that Trump says so and thank God that Trump says so, but not just now. This classroom, since it began, almost 6 years ago, has always argued that the Havana Junta was an imminent present danger to the vital interests of our great nation.

[00:09:25]And finally, after everyone vilified us and said, "Ah, but you're all crazy. But that country is a football field, isn't it?

[00:09:35]Look over there, like Consolito Viral used to say, look over there."

[00:09:40]So, in connection with this topic, it occurred to me to bring up this valid example that, moreover, they can't fool him because he was there for all these things that one says.

[00:10:04]And here those who are not Cuban say, "Oh, Cubans are always exaggerating." And many Cubans, I don't know if they forgot or what the hell is going on. Oh no. Son, stop that. That's all in the past.

[00:10:21]That's all in the past.

[00:10:27]As I always say, maybe I'm paranoid, but the fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't following me.

[00:10:38]We will always keep that in mind.

[00:10:42]So, well, let's bring in our friend Pepe Cohen to talk about the board and its espionage methods.

[00:10:54]What better day than the anniversary of the apostle's fall? Give me the curtain and bring Pepec to me.

[00:11:18]Good evening, Pepe. How are you?

[00:11:20]Good evening, my dear Andrés. How's everything going in the wrestling scene? But hey, he says that the pitcher keeps going to the well until it breaks, and it's about to break, eh, 67 years old.

[00:11:38]Oh, damn.

[00:11:42]Well, Pepe, look, uh, I always say, and I'm not saying this because you're here, uh, they know it, I always say that you're a unique character because, well, we're all unique in something, let's be clear, but well, in what I mean, in what I'm referring to, you're unique.

[00:12:11]Because most of the officers we 've seen so far, all with excellent courage, I'm not trying to create divisions, have seen the opportunity, they've stayed, they've switched sides, thank God, just like we all did, almost all of us here, we once sympathized with the other side and we realized it, each one of us in our own time. We waited a while and looked at each other. Okay, so far so good. But in your case, you didn't wait.

[00:12:50]You told them, "Hey, I'm here, I'm in here." Hey, and I remember that I was a tour guide and I thought the toilet bowl was from LG2.

[00:13:10]So I say, how dare this man, sir, go over to the enemy and stay inside? And well, as you told me in the audio and video test, the funny thing is not that you did it, but that you're not the only one.

[00:13:33]So that's when I say, we were defeated by the myth, they instilled in us the myth that, look at the rhetoric they used, this can't be fixed, but neither can it be brought down. No, security always catches you.

[00:13:50]Nothing can be done here. Do you remember what the narrative was?

[00:13:55]And then look how Pepe turned into third gear, did whatever he wanted, and how they still have to have people inside.

[00:14:03]So, before we talk about the fundamentals, right? About your methods, explain a little bit, although you already explained it to me, but it was like two or three years ago and I have more followers, followers who are not Cuban and who are a little confused, right? As is logical. How did you come up with the idea of ​​saying, "Hey, I'm going to switch to second gear and let God decide, and besides, what did you do for a living?"

[00:14:40]Because what you did for a living is key to this description.

[00:14:46]Forward.

[00:14:47]Well, the first thing is that maybe you, being a tour guide, were more vulnerable because you didn't know the method, but since I knew their methodology, I knew how to circumvent it, okay? I knew what they were doing, how they checked, how they counter-checked, where they put the microphones, where they put the cameras.

[00:15:07]But the reality is that I studied mathematics. I studied mathematics with a very specific application, which was cryptology. Some of the professors who taught us were Russian and they taught us subjects that were not taught in the mathematics faculty, such as parallel programming, statistics, a specific type of statistics that was applied to cryptology, and very specific things.

[00:15:32]So I started studying that because of my math grades. My family was a close- knit family, of course, otherwise I wouldn't have studied that, but I finished all my science subjects, math, physics and chemistry, with the highest possible score in high school and prep school, I mean, I wasn't that great, I wasn't that good at history, nor at spelling, but I was really good at math. They validated my exams, that is, I would go to exams and the professor would tell me, "Coen, take out your question."

[00:16:13]and it is validated. And they were professors, they were professors, graduates in nuclear physics, they were the best professors who taught us on Fidel's instructions, that is, they were preparing a team because what Fidel wanted with us was to compete with the Lourdes base.

[00:16:37]Then they prepared a military school for us with restricted access from the minin in the eleventh address. They prepared all the conditions. We were a small group of young people.

[00:16:51]And from the moment I was there, I began to notice the level of corruption at the time.

[00:16:56]Remember that when you, as a young person, access a level of information that is uncommon, right? Where were the bosses, the generals, you know, you really realize that everything Fidel and Raúl said was false. You realize the level of corruption, the immorality of those people, the level of how they manipulated the people.

[00:17:24]People start to feel repulsion and disgust for all of that. I have to tell you that at times, while in leadership, I faced situations; they brought in politicians, they calmed me down, but even though I was right, while in leadership, they transferred me to the intelligence service.

[00:17:48]The intelligence service, since I was a mathematician, where I started working was in industrial espionage, in the MS6 department.

[00:18:00]It was led by Colonel Brochi. The second chief was Beovides.

[00:18:06]They were scientists, that is, aligned with the process, but they were very well-prepared individuals. It was M6.

[00:18:16]M6, not MC, had nothing to do with the guard. I also interviewed him.

[00:18:22]He also wanted me to go work with MC, but at that time MC was dismantled. Thank God I didn't go to work there.

[00:18:29]Yes, M6.

[00:18:32]There are two M6s in the intelligence department. One is M6 with the normal number and the other is M6 with the Roman numeral.

[00:18:39]M6 with the normal number is the intelligence center of Spain and M6 with the Roman numeral was industrial espionage.

[00:18:50]Okay.

[00:18:51]So, I started working in industrial espionage and there they gave me the most important case, the one about microelectronics. There were officers there who were in charge of biotechnology, electronics, computing, robotics, and special materials. So, they put me to work in the microelectronics department, which basically did nothing but work against the United States, stealing microchip technology, processors, and memories.

[00:19:31]And there was a case, the most important case in the history of industrial espionage, I think, in my view, which was a couple of different origins, he was Argentinian, he was of Colombian origin, but they were, you could see them, he was blond, blue eyes, he spoke perfect English, that is, he passed as an American and he worked at the company Advanced Micro Device AMD in California and this person had already been recruited.

[00:20:02]Uh, he presented himself, he wasn't really recruited, he presented himself first at the Argentine embassy, ​​at the Cuban embassy in Argentina and then at the embassy, ​​the interest office in Washington.

[00:20:12]And the information reached Ramiro, who was the Minister of the Interior. Uh, Ramiro got interested because you know Ramiro was a big fan of electronics and computers, remember? Yes, this was after he worked on it, after they took him out of the minin and he became interested in this and these people delivered all the microchip technology back then. The Pentiums, remember them? The Pentium.

[00:20:42]Uh, all that information was delivered through Mexico. I received her in Cuba, but because of my own work I had access to privileged information that confirmed to me that the revolution was pure image. It was one, what do you call it? What do you call him? The board.

[00:21:08]The board.

[00:21:12]They were real gangsters. I personally knew the head of intelligence; in fact, I shared with him that he later became a victim, he was murdered by the regime. Even his family doesn't really know that.

[00:21:25]Méndez Comín, general editor, Joaquín Méndez Comiche. I knew Prende; in fact, Prende's children studied with me from Mariat, the pre-university school.

[00:21:36]And Prende was the second in command of intelligence.

[00:21:40]And well, I met a lot of people there, including Broch, Beovide, all those people, but Broch and Beovide were mid-level, but these big-time generals were totally immoral, corrupt people. So, I made it my mission not to stand idly by, my biggest dilemma being working within that world of privilege. Okay?

[00:22:03]Because if you realize, we handled dollars, we had work houses, we had cars with private license plates, you know, we had a card that gave us access to everything, but I knew that all of that was corruption, that all of that was fake.

[00:22:19]And in one day it was a process. I said, "I have to do something because what explanation will I give my children when they grow up? I'll have to tell them that I was complicit in all of this, or I'll do something to change all of this." And I set myself the task of identifying other people within the intelligence service who shared my thinking; I couldn't be the only one.

[00:22:47]And then, through very subtle dialogues, conversations with people who worked directly with me, who went to school with me, whom I'd known for years, I began to establish very close communication. I tested the waters. I tested every officer within my reach, and with some, I managed to get them to say, "I think the same as you." Fidel Castro is a criminal. "This is all a gang of criminals who have usurped power and treated the island like their private property."

[00:23:26]Forgive me, forgive me, Pepe. And didn't it ever happen to you that you took a gamble and got away with it? There's always a margin of risk.

[00:23:38]Always, always. But you have a way of, for example, with people who work very closely with you, you have a way of testing the waters, of characterizing things.

[00:23:49]Yes. And in fact, and in fact, I'll tell you something, some of them heard me, you know, and they didn't betray me.

[00:23:59]Oh, and you know, they did n't dare do anything.

[00:24:05]Look at what I'm telling you. But I had a conversation that, for example, I remember something as simple as when Kimilsun died, they took us all to an office, to give you a real example. Yes, yes, they moved up Kimilsun's funeral, do you remember?

[00:24:25]Yes.

[00:24:25]And those people crying on television and all the drama, do you remember?

[00:24:30]Then I would take the opportunity to say to other officers who were with me there, "Kid, what do you think about this?" "Do n't you think this is something?"

[00:24:39]And none of them dared to tell me that it was done right. I don't know if you understand.

[00:24:43]They were common things. That's where I started.

[00:24:45]The officers who had been in Italy, in England, for example, one of the people who came with me on the raft was an experienced officer, he had been in New York for 5 years and in England for 5 years. So, I didn't talk about Cuba, I talked, tell me about England.

[00:24:59]And I realized that all those people came obsessed, and it's incredible, incredible what I'm going to tell you, Andrés.

[00:25:06]They felt admiration for what they had experienced in countries like the United States. They knew what democracy was, uh, freedom, I don't know if they were experiencing a conflict. All the people who have left Cuba to carry out a mission experience a perfect conflict. My friends who had been in Italy, in Spain, in England, intelligence officers, when I talked to them, they felt a real admiration for the countries they had visited, but they felt privileged. They lived for On top of the general population, they were buying cars, had access to dollars, and traveled the world. But I didn't want to play that role of accomplice for myself, my family, and my children.

[00:26:06]And I found people who were like me, willing to stop being complicit.

[00:26:13]Okay. And then I recruited—I don't know if " recruit" is the right word, it's hard for me to say it because they were my friends, you see? But I called these friends together.

[00:26:26]One of them, you know him, one of them is very famous because Obama negotiated the redistribution with him.

[00:26:34]Rolly, today I can talk about him.

[00:26:37]Before, people would ask me, "Did he stay on the other side? Did they catch him?" No, no. Rolly has an interesting story. Rolly does a lot of things.

[00:26:46]Rolly, first I want to tell you that even though you've never spoken to him, and I do n't think you ever will because he's living a completely private life here, he's one of the bravest guys I know because he did things with me at a level of... Incredible professionalism and prudence. What happened with Rolly, first of all, Rolly's parents were both intelligence colonels, his mother and father. They had been heads of centers in Colombia, very important people who later became frustrated with the regime after what happened to their son. What happened with Rolly, my friend, okay, and I'm going to defend him under any circumstances, is that when we were doing things in Cuba, many things, many things, very brave, okay? Very risky, gathering information and everything, everything, everything. They sent him on a temporary mission to Russia.

[00:27:44]Look, while he was doing all this, one day the boss called him and said, "You're going to Russia to work at the Cuban embassy in Russia as an intelligence officer for a special operation for 6 months." " What did we agree on?" And I do n't think I've ever told this story before. If I have, I don't think it's been given the importance it deserves, but when I spoke with Rolly, when Rolly was given the mission, I was in Cuba.

[00:28:09]Okay.

[00:28:10]We agreed on the following: If you go to Russia and stay there for six months, I'm going to mobilize to leave Cuba within those six months.

[00:28:22]Don't return to Cuba. In fact, he doesn't return because you're going to be the only person who, when you make contact with the CIA outside of Cuba, can tell this whole story. Because there's something important I want to tell you.

[00:28:38]When I make contact with the CIA from Cuba, the CIA can't believe, listen, that this could be happening. The first thing the CIA thinks is, this is an operational game, this is a double agent, and of course, this guy can't possibly have an armed network in there, okay?

[00:29:00]But what catches their attention, and what they begin to trust, is the information I start providing, because in a game Operational intelligence doesn't sacrifice important information. So they say, "He's not giving anything away." There's an operational game, you deceive them.

[00:29:21]But when you start handing over such compelling information, they say, "No, no intelligence service in the world sacrifices this." And they start taking us seriously.

[00:29:34]They start taking us seriously because of the quality of information we started delivering to the United States intelligence services.

[00:29:43]So, Rolly goes to Russia, he travels to Russia.

[00:29:47]I have a phone to contact him in Russia, but when I manage to escape from Cuba on a raft with another very high-level intelligence officer, higher level than Rolly, okay? A superstar, I also want to tell you, he's a brave guy too. Okay. This person comes with me on the raft. We arrive in the United States, but when I arrive in the United States, arriving in Miami, they put me on a plane and take me to the debriefing, right? I mean, sit down and tell us how all this is, because They had a lot of information, even information they were studying—they must still be studying that information— information that brought down Anabel Monte, the Wasp Network, things probably, I'm not sure, but maybe it's with Rocha. The thing is, I got there, but I didn't have a phone to call Rolly, and I explained and told him, "Look, it's not just me here." And I started explaining about other people who were with me.

[00:30:58]But the truth is, for security reasons that go beyond what you and I can imagine, they trusted that Rolly, upon learning that I had left, would stay put.

[00:31:15]They didn't want to make a call, I imagine, to the center and raise such obvious suspicion.

[00:31:23]Remember, you were in Russian territory; the Russians control everything.

[00:31:28]So, the curious thing about all this is that I asked Rolly, "Roly, yes, Rolly, Rolly found out that I left Cuba." Of course, it was a communication; my photo was circulated to all the centers in the world, including Russia."

[00:31:43]But in bronze, hey, how interesting.

[00:31:47]As a result, a few days later, Arroly summoned him to the head of the center in Russia to tell him that they wanted to extend his 6-month mission to 5 years. Imagine that, they were going to give him the opportunity to travel to Cuba on vacation so he could return to his wife and son.

[00:32:16]That was to prevent him from leaving at that moment.

[00:32:21]So, incredibly, since they couldn't link him to me, really, there was no way to link him to me, he returned to Cuba.

[00:32:34]Then, when he returned to Cuba, already in Cuba, which I think is a mistake that cost him 20 years in prison, what happened was the following.

[00:32:47]Rolly's wife worked at the Amejira Hospital; she was a doctor at the Amejira Hospital. Do you remember the Amejira Hospital? No?

[00:32:54]Yes? Yes, of course.

[00:32:56]And then one day she leaves work— this is like something out of a movie, you're going to... I saw it one day in a series, really.

[00:33:02]And while walking to his car, he had a Lada, a car, he was a doctor, a woman approaches him and says, "I have this letter for you to give to your husband.

[00:33:17]See how the counterintelligence operation in Cuba was orchestrated.

[00:33:25]The letter was supposedly for Roly, written by me."

[00:33:30]So, what they didn't calculate, of course, or didn't assume, or assumed, is that for me to receive correspondence from Rolly, or for Rolly to receive correspondence from me, the letter had to contain a password that only Rol and I knew. Do you understand now? Of course, it's like me telling you, "The sky is blue, bluer than ever," or writing a letter in red. I'm not going to tell you what it is because we're still keeping that a secret, you know. The reality is that she gives the letter to Rolling. The handwriting is mine because they prepare for that.

[00:34:12]Of course.

[00:34:13]But Rolly reads the letter and realizes that it's not mine. Of course, because it doesn't contain what we had established as the password. Rol, wait, he has two options now. He either hands over the letter or he doesn't.

[00:34:36]If he doesn't hand it over, he's in jail because he already knew that counterintelligence had sent him.

[00:34:41]And if he hands it over, which is what he did when he arrived the next day, He went to the boss and said, "Look, Pepe's letter, I have nothing to do with Pepe, I don't even know what he means, a provocation, but when he delivered the letter, they opened the door and there was military counterintelligence, the military, 14 people took Rolí prisoner, they disappeared him. Even the family didn't know where Rolly was. And the family were intelligence colonels. So you have an idea of ​​the repressive apparatus, how it works. Rolly was arrested.

[00:35:20]I prefer that the details be told one day. He told me, of course.

[00:35:24]Loon was in a work house, they put a light on him for I don't know how many days, he did n't know when it was day and night and in the end they linked him to me.

[00:35:36]Uh, I imagine the US intelligence services will know why that happened.

[00:35:45]We still have a lot of suspicion because there were agents, remember that the network was also made up of agents, unofficial agents, agents who worked for the government, such as those who delivered the Penkum technology, they were part of the network against the regime and they were in the United States, that is, they were not just intelligence officers.

[00:36:08]Those people were also recruited by me to work against the regime and to deliver technological information to the regime; they ended up working for the CIA. In other words, this is a long story. V.

[00:36:19]And do you think any of those people were double agents for the regime or something?

[00:36:24]No, I'm not a double agent, because if I weren't in the United States, they would have killed me. Not a double agent, but someone could have acted recklessly because Rol is incapable of acting recklessly.

[00:36:37]But an agent does not have the training of an officer.

[00:36:40]Yes of course.

[00:36:42]For example, from Guiller who came with me to the raft. There is no recklessness there. Forget about that. They are highly trained officers. Rolly never.

[00:36:50]The mistake and the recklessness was returning to Cuba. But an agent who does not have the training of an officer could have acted imprudently, or a relative in Cuba who knew about this, because sometimes one could unintentionally have been interrogated by military counterintelligence.

[00:37:18]Uh, we don't know. I think Rolly still doesn't know, and neither do I, but the truth is that they put him on trial and didn't sentence him to death because they could never prove anything against him and because they also thought that if they kept him alive he would talk and he never did. Of course, I'm saying that Rol is one of the bravest people I've ever met because he was kept in solitary confinement the whole time. He did n't talk to anyone, but they never managed to break him, as far as I know.

[00:37:56]Well, and then Obama was the card that Obama justified and would say the CIA in exchange for the Rabispa.

[00:38:06]They didn't want to release Rolin, they wanted to release this Jew who had also been taken prisoner there, who was also there.

[00:38:16]But here's what I understand, my friends, you know, especially the CIA—look at the size of this country—that without even knowing Rolly, without any evidence, they were so concerned for his life that they said, "There's no way around it if they don't release Rolly." And they got into a real bind, and Fidel Castro, just to make a show of releasing the spies— these spies who are all a bunch of lunatics, you know, really.

[00:38:50]So, they released them, they traded Rolly for the spies, and well, that's a story with many more nuances, much more complicated. Of course, because since I had officers in different departments, I had access to information that went beyond what I normally had access to, you understand?

[00:39:13]Right.

[00:39:15]And the information was very compelling, and in the end, I managed to get out, I managed to escape, and Rolly had to serve all those years in prison in Cuba, and well, today he lives in the United States.

[00:39:29]And you, do you sometimes feel guilty for him?

[00:39:35]No, no, not at all. way. And I don't think he feels that way either because I actually escaped on a raft. Rol was in Russia, I mean, I had to escape on a raft, but Rolly was in Russia. He was the one who had the easiest way to get to the American embassy in Russia. And that's what we agreed on.

[00:39:55]And why didn't he do it?

[00:39:58]Because he believed what they told him about the 5- year mission and he said, "Instead of leaving, instead of staying alone, I'm going to stay with my wife." Sometimes the sentimental side comes into play; you ca n't make mistakes. Look, I had my three children and the mother of my three children, and you know what it's like to leave three young children in Cuba.

[00:40:19]But I said, if I don't do this, they'll kill me.

[00:40:23]And then you'll never see him because they wouldn't see you either.

[00:40:28]I tell him, it's better to be far away, and I live with the hope that one day we can be reunited, as has happened because today they are all American citizens here and they are on the right path in this country. After 18 years, they left him I laughed in Cuba.

[00:40:42]Okay.

[00:40:44]It's better for me to be alive and for them to be alive than for me to be in romanticism and, because of romanticism, be dead. I was condemned to death in the same trial as Rolling. I was sentenced to death. I am condemned to death in Cuba.

[00:41:01]In absentia.

[00:41:02]In absentia. They took my family and condemned me to death. They put on that whole charade and my mother told them, "Well, go look for him in the United States."

[00:41:11]In fact, when I escaped on the raft, and a fisherman picked me up, I called my family while I was in Washington and told them, "Well, I have to tell you, they didn't know absolutely anything, that I'm talking to you from the United States, from Washington."

[00:41:33]And the next day a colonel from military counterintelligence showed up at my father's house and said, "Look, we know that he couldn't have escaped from Cuba." He's making a call supposedly from the United States, but he has n't escaped from Cuba and we're going to find him." "What a stupid idea."

[00:41:57]And then my dad said to him, "Well, you all know that, but you already know that he called me and told me he was in Washington DC in the United States."

[00:42:08]In the end I was here, of course, but they even dared to say that, I mean, I had hoped that I, with my family and my children tied down, would n't escape. In these matters, you have to think carefully about your decisions because it could cost you your life. Yes of course.

[00:42:33]Yes of course. Okay. So, Pepe, now explain to me why you say this, and why all of us who have an idea say it, and Cubans in general, because here there are still people even within the Republican party who claim that no, that the junta is not a danger to the vital interests of the United States, that maybe that was when the Russians subsidized the junta, that no way, that people are starving, that no, that Cuba, that the junta can't do anything.

[00:43:36]Please explain to us how they handle each exodus, each possibility of sending a bunch of their agents here.

[00:43:39]The problem is that politicians are politicians. Politicians are not always well informed. Not everyone is Marco Rubio. If you notice, Marco Rubio has become Trump's right-hand man advisor because he is not only a politician, but he has dedicated himself to studying all the conflicts in the Middle East, Israel, not just Cuba. He is an expert on Cuba and knows the nature of the regime because of his Cuban ancestry, but he knows, but there are politicians who are elected and don't even know where they stand, neither about politics nor anything else.

[00:44:14]That's the reality.

[00:44:16]Yes.

[00:44:16]And they start giving their opinions and making decisions.

[00:44:18]This is a country. This is how democracy works. This is how democracy works.

[00:44:23]Now I can assure you of something without exaggeration, and I'm saying this because it will reach this country, and besides, with the information I provided, I believe that at least the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency officials, at least those I've spoken to, have no doubt that Cuba is perhaps the most dangerous country because of its proximity and its massive penetration over time.

[00:44:53]from the United States. Perhaps if you were to tell me that Cuba does not represent a threat because the Russians withdrew their nuclear missiles in 1961, which by the way, if you want to know if Cuba is a danger or not, remember what Fidel Castro was prepared to do in 1961, that if it were not for Russia, if it were not for Nikita Khrushchev, he would have bombed the United States with nuclear weapons. That was his decision, to disappear. In other words, Cuba has never been able to do more than it wanted because it hasn't had nuclear weapons, it hasn't had missiles, it hasn't had the... Now what they have dedicated their whole lives to is penetrating, that is, taking advantage of Cuba's proximity, studying the people within the government and all the resentful scientists. which are plentiful in the United States to recruit them, and so Cuba has done more harm to the United States, not because of the weapons it can fire against the United States, but because of the information that has been stolen massively for years to share with hostile countries. That's correct, to the United States. So, the M1 department, where I worked, I worked in the M6 ​​department, the priority, I don't know how it is, I don't know how they have the cynicism to say that Cuba is not a threat to the United States, only they believe that in a self-protective speech.

[00:46:35]In departments M1 and M6, the priority was working against the United States.

[00:46:49]Cuba's most important intelligence centers are M15 and M2. M2 Washington DC, M15 is the United Nations and uh Mexico and M20 which is Canada. In other words, Canada is there.

[00:47:06]But Canada is not important because of Canada itself, but because it is close to the United States. So, the operations they set up in the United States were carried out in Mexico by crossing the border or in Canada, because the FBI wasn't in Mexico and because they had a lot of people recruited in Mexico against the United States.

[00:47:32]All the technological information that scientists provided was delivered in Mexican territory to intelligence officers who worked as diplomats in the office in the center of Mexico, in the Mexican embassy. They traveled to the border, received the agents there, handed over thousands of documents and technology, and the same thing happened in Canada.

[00:48:04]So, whoever says, "Hey, how they sent people." Very simple. It's very simple. For example, in the year 94, when the exodus was going to happen, there was an order from the high command. When I say high command, not the underlings, that comes from Fidel and Raúl and fundamentally from Fidel, because this could be a diplomatic conflict.

[00:48:30]And the idea, the order was that all counterintelligence agents and collaborators, because those who worked with those people internally in Cuba were counterintelligence, not intelligence. But it was so massive that they sent intelligence officers to cooperate with it and they were knocking on his doors. I had a list with me, go see so-and-so at such-and-such address.

[00:48:56]Okay. And he is the felito agent. You were playing for him, Alejandro. Yes. The feline agent.

[00:49:02]Yes. I have one that showed the sweet potato. As we say in Cuba. We have, do you remember, Sweet Potato? The car, the sweet potato, the park pass, in a park on the corner of the house, and he said to him, "Look, we want to make you a proposal. There's going to be a mass exodus, and we're seeing all the people, all the collaborators of the revolution and for the revolution, all that nonsense, who want to emigrate with their families, not just alone, but even with your family. Yes, yes, to set you up, to set you up well. We'll set you up, you travel, you'll be protected, the border guards won't stop you, and if they do stop you, we'll authorize you to get to the United States with a communication plan, and eventually, in the future, we'll contact you because when you're gone, we won't pay anything. I mean, the regime, in fact, you could die at sea.

[00:50:02]Be careful, you could die at sea because Cuba wouldn't give you a boat or anything, but if you arrived, then you had a communication plan, you could start working here in the factory wherever you wanted, and eventually, the intelligence service benefits from any information, not just the Information from Anabel Monte.

[00:50:24]The intelligence service benefits from knowing even how Medicare is scammed.

[00:50:30]That's the point I wanted to make. They 're experts at it.

[00:50:35]Okay. I can't speak for everyone, but many of these people are already involved. If I were the FBI, it would n't be difficult to start identifying potential Cuban government officials because they don't have that secret information, but they could be scamming Medicare or Medicaid. They know the whole mechanism, they know how to make an ID, which state allows it, which state doesn't. They know how to get a license, they know how to apply to work for the government, how to work in immigration. Imagine a guy like that working in immigration.

[00:51:13]Well, Mariano Fajé. Well, Mariano reached that level, but I'm talking about anyone. Imagine you come here, become an American citizen, apply and work in the police, apply and work as an advisor to the Cuban-American congressman. What do you think?

[00:51:34]As a professor at the university. Look, Arturo López Levi. Do you know who Arturo López Levi is? It's López Calleja.

[00:51:41]Well, López Calleja in Cuba. First, he 's a sort of cousin of mine. Did you know that?

[00:51:48]No, I didn't know that.

[00:51:49]Yes, we're Jewish descendants.

[00:51:52]Yes, he's my cousin through one of my grandfather's aunts.

[00:51:57]Okay. They both came to Cuba in the 1910s. Well, Arturo López, the one who's a university professor, the one everyone considers a reference point.

[00:52:10]Arturo López, and I think he can't deny that, okay? He was an intelligence officer in Cuba, in department M3.

[00:52:19]Arturo López would come to my office. I work on the ninth floor of department M1. I mean, to get into that building, to be an intelligence officer, I don't know, I think he went through Israel, through a Jewish-through-Israeli program, and from Israel he came here. I think he doesn't deny this, but think about what I'm going to tell you now. Arturo López might say to me, "Pepe, you were an intelligence officer too." Yes, but listen, I was an intelligence officer and I broke with The regime.

[00:52:50]But you were an intelligence officer and you continue to serve the regime, taking advantage of the legality of this country, taking advantage of the freedom. How do you explain the difference to me? To give an example, okay? You were an intelligence officer and you're still here, using a philosophical, pseudo-intellectual discourse, as a university professor, defending the regime. However, in this country, the laws allow that. I don't know under what circumstances something like this can happen, but so you understand, if he publicly, having been a Cuban intelligence officer, apparently, as I understand it, says, "I broke with intelligence."

[00:53:44]Yes, but you came to the United States through Israel to publicly defend the Cuban regime.

[00:53:55]So, it's something that I don't know how the process happened. What I can tell you is that Arturo López was an intelligence officer.

[00:54:06]I think he can't deny it; he doesn't deny it. I do n't think he denies it. So, imagine, Arturo, imagine all the thousands of agents who have come to This country, and they work in immigration, the police, I do n't know, private detectives, uh, I don't know, security companies, I do n't know how. Someone can't think that Cuba, acquiring all that information, is passing it on to all the enemies of the United States—how to defraud the government, how to infiltrate, how to cross the border, what the process is. All that information is useful to the enemies of the United States.

[00:54:58]Yes.

[00:54:59]And Cuba has become the springboard for providing not only secret information, because Cuba didn't have the capacity to use this technological information.

[00:55:10]But if you gave it to the Iranians, they could build a missile. They passed it on.

[00:55:16]Of course. And to North Korea, they prepare, I don't know, they hack the US government's computers. Cuba doesn't have the preparation or the technology for that, but the enemies of the United States, Russia, for example, gave all the technological information from Advance Micro Devices to Gorbachev. I was the one who prepared the transfer letters; the head of the department signed them. I 'm talking about thousands and thousands of Papers.

[00:55:46]So, you don't just hypothesize, like in my case, that this could happen, no. You can prove it because you saw it with your own hands. I'm a witness.

[00:56:02]You're an analyst from the outside. That's why I say, gentlemen, I'm not speaking to you from the outside, I'm speaking to you from the inside about how the Cuban intelligence apparatus and government operate. The Castros' priority, their obsession, is to harm the United States.

[00:56:26]The United States.

[00:56:27]Yes.

[00:56:28]In fact, there's a wartime plan. This drone thing now... there's always been a wartime plan. Remember, I 'm not the only officer here. You can contact other officers, they'll tell you the same thing.

[00:56:42]Any of the officers who worked in intelligence or counterintelligence are willing to denounce the regime because some have changed their names and prefer to remain anonymous. I respect that, and I never harmed anyone. Everyone knows me as Pepe Cohen. Where I was born, where I lived. Nobody can point the finger at me for anything, absolutely nothing. I never hurt anyone, but I did hurt the regime. And I was also a witness, for example, to how they stole technology, how they tried to decipher messages, how they handed over all the information from the airwaves that Cuba was capturing to the Russians, to the people at the base, so they could break the codes and intercept communications within the United States.

[00:57:30]I don't know if that's considered a threat or not.

[00:57:34]I don't know anyone here who can say, some politician, that they don't know anything about what I 'm talking about.

[00:57:40]Well, I've told you that I went to testify before the United States Congress.

[00:57:43]Yes.

[00:57:44]And a congresswoman told me that I'm not credible because I'm a traitor to the Cuban regime. Imagine if a congresswoman said that to me.

[00:57:52]And I told her, "Ma'am, you represent the United States, you represent the Cuban regime in the United States Congress."

[00:58:00]Of course, for you to come here and tell me that... I've risked my life to defend the values ​​of this country, and for you, an elected congresswoman, to say that to me. That only happens in the United States, in a democracy.

[00:58:17]But you know, you know they carry that in their souls, they carry the fence, and you know that very likely over there in counterintelligence they have a dossier this thick with a ton of photos and stuff, and when they tell her to bark, she has to bark like Dick Durbin, Senator Dick Durbin who practically came to blows with Marco Rubio. No, but you're not going to invade, are you? Because it seems like someone told her, "Hey, remember what I have here, so go out and take that stuff from us."

[00:58:58]Listen, what's going to come out, what could still explode, the amount of secrets we could find out, just by shaking the mango tree a little, it's enough to make people commit suicide here.

[00:59:15]Look, there isn't a single American citizen who goes to Cuba. Look, I'm talking to you now, not about congressmen or... Senators or anything.

[00:59:27]You South American, they have n't vetted you before you enter Cuba and they don't have your dossier, your file, and your profile because they're trying to recruit everyone, everyone. Look, we used to get a ton of information like this every Monday about all the American citizens who would be traveling to Cuba: name, surname, date of birth, origin, where they worked, to see if they were targets of operational interest.

[01:00:04]And I'd say, "Hey, so-and-so, listen, I'm interested in this guy who works at AT&T."

[01:00:11]How do we approach it?

[01:00:13]And then through ICAP, through CES, through all the phantom intelligence entities, using scientific collaborators, they would write him letters, make contact, and in the end an intelligence officer would appear who identified himself as a mathematical scientist to talk to the mathematician. They took him to the Ajeira hospital, they showed him the revolution. with A and it stopped in a recruitment process, just like I 'm telling you.

[01:00:48]And those people were then recruited and blackmailed because they put cameras in the Riviera, in the Habana Libre. You have to understand everything, how it works, to realize the hostility of that regime towards the United States. You agree with me because, look, let's be clear. It's normal that if you are my enemy, you defend yourself against me, you try to hurt me. Okay, I get that.

[01:01:17]It's part of the fight.

[01:01:20]But you dare to categorize the Castros' interest as obsessive, compulsive against the United States.

[01:01:31]Yes, it's a personal thing, it's a visceral hatred.

[01:01:36]Notice the point that when the Soviet Union was dismantled, they tried to conspire with the Russians, with Jenev, against Gorbachev, did you understand? You know what I'm saying.

[01:01:51]And look, they haven't changed their uniforms.

[01:01:54]They still wear the uniform from the time of the Soviet Union.

[01:01:59]Observe. Yes. I mean, they long for the Soviet Union and they die, they die hating the United States. I honestly don't know the origin of such a feeling, but it's a sick obsession of the Castros, okay? that have infected the rest of the corrupt generals, you know.

[01:02:31]Sure, sure.

[01:02:33]But he's obsessive.

[01:02:35]At this point, they wish the United States didn't exist; they wish they had blown it to pieces. In the end, the United States prevailed, as is logical, being the most powerful country in the world.

[01:02:47]And with Donald Trump leading this country, eh, which they haven't quite figured out, things are going to change.

[01:02:57]No. Hey, hey, Pepe, do you think I'm talking like a madman now and I realize I'm stepping out of your area of ​​expertise? I'm asking you to do a predigitation exercise, but do you really think that this time there could be a change in Cuba, a substantial change, right? Do you think that this time there might be a change? Look, I'm going to explain it to you as if I were in the intelligence service and had to do an analysis of that, which was one of the many things we had to do. Okay.

[01:03:42]Oh.

[01:03:42]Yes, yes.

[01:03:44]I'm not a political analyst, but I did have to be an intelligence analyst, you know. And they taught me to see the signs. Look, if you ask me, this is my opinion. My opinion is that the process of regime change in Cuba has already begun. It has already begun. It does n't happen overnight; it will probably culminate in a military operation, but it's already a decision, you see, by the United States government that the regime has to change.

[01:04:15]Everything that is happening, all the events that have occurred in recent months, even before Maduro, are to strangle the regime, to put it in a critical position, to dismantle it.

[01:04:36]They will resort to a military operation when they have no other option, because they would not want to risk the life of any American citizen in the slightest, of course, and that is what they will avoid by all means, but they are determined. There's no way. and make sure this is recorded. I'm not like that, futuristic or anything like that, but if I have to do an analysis, I think they're analyzing the same thing too. There is a determination on the part of the regime to eliminate the Cuban government, because for them it is no longer just a matter of Cuba, nor of Marco Rubio, nor of Donald Trump's relationship with the Cubans.

[01:05:28]It is a thought regarding the Western Hemisphere.

[01:05:35]Donald Trump is determined, resolved that it is impossible for the national security of the United States to have countries in the Western Hemisphere, specifically in Latin America, that harbor enemies or are allies of enemies of the United States. And Cuba is the head of the snake. It's not just Cuba; they have three drug trafficking countries in Mexico, including the government, of course, and also Colombia, and the regimes that have relations with Iran, with Isbold, but there's a strategic problem here, when MAGA means America First and we're going to eliminate any danger. Remember that Cuba is not China, which is developing like China but is 10,000 miles from the United States. We are talking about the Western Hemisphere.

[01:06:32]Uh, Donald Trump's doctrine, his mentality, is zero tolerance. So, for me, the process is just a matter of seeing how it ends and in what way, but it has already begun. If you tell me, do you think there wo n't be a failure? It is a process that has already begun, and everything you have seen and everything we are going to see is to strangle the regime, to make it perish one way or another. That's what I think. There is no turning back, there is no chance they can survive.

[01:07:06]Donald Trump will not leave this period, and probably before November, which are the elections, without dismantling the regime. He will go down in history, remember what I'm telling you, as the person who not only removed Maduro and changed things in Venezuela, but who is also in Venezuela and is watching the process. Okay, I'm going to ask you a question. Do you think Venezuela is finished? Is the process over?

[01:07:36]No, no, not at all, not at all.

[01:07:39]You see, they caught Maduro, there's Delsi, but that's not over.

[01:07:43]No, no, not at all.

[01:07:44]Go elections. So, people think these processes happen overnight. What surprises me, Andrés, is the mastery and the solution that these people have found, for example, in the case of Venezuela. That was unimaginable, putting Delsy, who was the vice president, at the service of the United States during the change is an unprecedented thing. I know people do n't understand that easily, but that 's the process. These processes don't happen overnight, and the one in Cuba won't happen overnight either. What will happen the next day when they dismantle the regime? That's why Marco Rubio is going to the Vatican, because among other things, if you ask me to analyze all of this, they're saying, "And how do you feed 11 million people the next day?"

[01:08:39]So the Catholic Church has to take action now and in the future too, because there's a church on every corner in Cuba. Is it true or false?

[01:08:48]Yes. The Catholic faith has historically predominated in Cuba.

[01:08:51]Yes.

[01:08:52]Then they can establish mechanisms through the Vatican. It's not just about putting an aircraft carrier there and making a queue; it's about figuring out how to feed it and how to manage the transition process, because that comes later.

[01:09:04]But what is clear is that the regime can now rest assured. It is my opinion, my humble opinion, that the regime will not survive this and that the process of dismantling the regime has already begun. Everything you're seeing, the CIA visit, do you believe that? He is not a diplomat.

[01:09:26]An errand will be delivered with the box, with the little bow on. No, but let me see it. No, no, no. There you have it, I'll leave it at that.

[01:09:34]Hey, that man is traveling from Washington. If it were a diplomatic matter, they would send it through Hammer's representative.

[01:09:42]Look, go there and tell him, uh, a guy from Washington lands on a plane, meets with the Interior Ministry, the intelligence officers. So that? To tell him, "Look, we've been tracking the island for four or five months, we know where this is, where... Remember, remember that everything is happening in parallel here: the drones, the planes, we fly over here, we know everything. Look, we've come to tell you that we know everything and that you have no options. We do n't want to carry out a military operation.

[01:10:16]Think about what you're going to do because we're determined. That's an ultimatum. People think he went to negotiate, but there's nothing to negotiate. You don't negotiate with someone who's defeated. It's the same thing that's happening in Iran.

[01:10:32]Iran has one option. Either you bomb them to finish dismantling them, or they surrender because that's what Donald Trump said. What are we going to negotiate with you if you insist on maintaining the nuclear threat? If you don't have a navy, you don't have a submarine, we'll take down everything you have. The Revolutionary Guard is using boats, but you don't have an army, you have nowhere to run.

[01:11:00]Now people are saying, 'Why don't you just bomb them?' Because everything..." Donald Trump will save what he can. " Or wouldn't you do it, Andrés?"

[01:11:07]No, no, of course not.

[01:11:08]How much does each missile cost? How much risk is involved? When? So, everything we can do, or everything the United States government can do to dismantle a regime like Cuba's, without firing a shot, they're going to do it, but they're determined, and that it will culminate in the dismantling of the regime, I have no doubt, I personally have no doubt whatsoever. And in fact, I think that process is already underway, we're not even going to find out tomorrow. The process of destroying that regime is already happening. That's what I think.

[01:11:40]I think that, as always, the pitcher goes to the well so often, as I was saying, until it breaks. And I think they didn't realize that this time it wasn't just talk, but that it was over, and they could lose the opportunity to run off with their money because... Well, look, look, Andrés, look, neither they nor they have calculated correctly because they've spent 67 years trusting that it's never happened, right? A lie. It's Correct. That's right. Just like there aren't people in exile who believe it either.

[01:12:21]It's because as human beings we have inertia.

[01:12:25]Of course. It's never happened. 67 years. Since Ronald Reagan's time, people also thought it was going to happen, it never did. It's not very... It's that they thought what happened with Maduro was n't going to happen either. I don't know if you remember. Don't you remember that with Maduro, people were in... Of course.

[01:12:41]Okay. So the people in Cuba must be saying, "For 67 years they're going to get away with it." Hey, gentlemen, look at what's happening.

[01:12:48]They have the island surrounded by drones. Did n't you see the video that Southern Command released today?

[01:12:54]Yes.

[01:12:55]And did you see the photo they ended with? Did you see that video?

[01:12:59]A little bit.

[01:13:01]No, no. The final photo is a satellite image of Cuba. You have to see that.

[01:13:08]What is the command showing? That's what they're playing at, they're spending money to send... they're saying, "We are determined."

[01:13:16]You have to see the video, but in the video, they... uh... images of the Command's weapons appear. South, military operations, landings, everything, everything, everything, but in the end, a picture of Cuba illuminated from a satellite comes out.

[01:13:33]Listen, they're sending signals left and right. They're sending all the drones. There are people who say, "But they don't have an aircraft carrier." They don't need an aircraft carrier. If the aircraft carriers they used to take Maduro were farther away than Miami is from Cuba, they don't need any aircraft carrier.

[01:13:51]From the Keys, from Jacksonville, and from Miami, they send in a matter of hours what they need to do what they have to do in Cuba, but they think that this idea that we're going to maintain a united discourse saying that there's going to be some kind of bloodbath... Get all that nonsense out of your head. There's not going to be a bloodbath, and they're not going to kill any Americans.

[01:14:20]Those drones are going to stay put; they're not going to advance two meters. Don't you realize? They don't realize because they've been doing this for 67 years.

[01:14:29]Yes.

[01:14:31]And they It's going to be too late because now I think that if you manage to interview Maduro in New York, he's going to say, "What a stupid thing for me to do."

[01:14:40]In the end, do you look where you're looking or not? "Think about it."

[01:14:43]Sure, but they think nothing's going to happen to them because they're living in a fantasy world.

[01:14:48]Okay, Pepe. Well, listen, the first thing I want to do is thank you for being here. Uh, it's boosted my ratings spectacularly, uh, because people are interested in this kind of conversation that isn't critical, not direct. I did this, that, the other thing, talking. Of course, of course.

[01:15:13]Uh, because we don't rile people up, right? But wait, now Pepe is going to reveal. No, no, we gave it to him right there, take it and carry it away.

[01:15:24]I know that's how it is.

[01:15:25]Hey, well, that's it, a hug, thank you very much, and we'll see each other in the next few days. Well, thank you for all the work you do, for your perseverance, for your dignity, and for the kind of Cuban you are, which is what we need for Cuba. A hug.

[01:15:41]Take care, Pepe, take care. A big hug.

[01:15:44]Well, folks, We had Pepe Cohen here, and this time I asked him the questions, and he answered without hesitation, but look, I didn't... Hey, it's this, it's that. I worked here, I worked there, we weren't just warming up, no, but now Pepe is going to reveal everything, right? Here's the package, take it home.

[01:16:16]I loved it, I loved the exchange and how the interview flowed, even though I already knew him, we had interviewed him here a while ago. He's not the only former Cuban official we've interviewed, but every now and then it's comforting to have guests who bring this positive energy. And gentlemen, I noticed a detail about Pepe, the ease with which he talks about... because I recruited so-and-so, so-and-so, and I made a network where... no, Cuba, no kidding. Yes, inside Cuba, as if it were just going to play Kimbumbia in Jayalía.

[01:17:15]So, I made a network like that, like nothing to... must have left our friends who were debunked by the FBI There's a short circuit there, because with so much pomp and nonsense, when someone comes along and throws it all out the window, of course they all fall apart immediately.

[01:17:42]Okay. Well, let's go then to the anniversaries of those murdered by Castroism.

[01:17:51]Let's go.

[01:18:06]Well, let's see here.

[01:18:12]Okay.

[01:18:14]Well, yesterday was May 18, 2026. On May 18, 1963, Ismael Morales Batista was executed by firing squad in Camawayi.

[01:18:34]Infante Hidalgo, Roberto Alemán, Roberto Hernández, and Onio López Revilla were executed by firing squad in Matanzas.

[01:18:49]Pedro P. Sánchez González fell in a confrontation with Castro's militias and state security forces in Hu de Melena. His body was transferred and displayed in Hawei Grande, Matanzas province.

[01:19:10]In 1964, Orestes Gómez died in combat at the Manaquitas farm in the Escanambray Mountains. In 1965, Gilberto Pino Guzmán and the doctors Galis Menéndez and Albariño were executed by firing squad in the cabin.

[01:19:36]In 1967, Félix Montesino was also executed by firing squad in the cabin.

[01:19:45]Today is May 19, 2026.

[01:19:54]On May 19, 1962, Estanislao Rivera Milán and Amadito Yera were executed by firing squad in Corralillo, Las Villas province. In 1980, Ramón Vera was executed by firing squad in the cabin. And finally, in 1991, Gerardo González González was executed by firing squad in Manzanillo, Oriente province.

[01:20:36]Eternal glory to our heroes and martyrs. Let's move on to the relevant topics.

[01:21:02]Okay.

[01:21:03]Let's see here.

[01:21:09]Give me a second.

[01:21:15]Okay.

[01:21:23]I had said that I was going to mention, in this relevant topic, the anniversary of the death of José Martí, José Julián Martí y Pérez.

[01:21:45]And gentlemen, I am going to reiterate what I said when I made the introduction. It is extremely unfair to categorize, to classify people with today's criteria, These people lived much longer than 100 years ago.

[01:22:19]People must be judged by the historical context in which they live, because otherwise we fall into what I capriciously call presentism. That is to say, when you judge a person who lived 100 years ago by today's standards, I say that Martí died a pointless death to become the most useful dead person of all our times.

[01:23:04]Martín is used by the left, he is used by the right, everyone uses him. Each person wants to interpret him in their own way.

[01:23:14]Each person wants to further their own agenda with the figure of Martín.

[01:23:26]And so, in that sometimes sugarcoating, in that other times demonization, excuse me, Martí dies a little more each day or is revived in the minds of those who prefer to analyze him exactly within his historical moment, without pretending that he behaved as I myself do not behave today.

[01:24:14]From here, I want to pay a very humble tribute to the figure of this man who loved intensely, suffered even more intensely, and was never afraid to speak his mind. He thought it, said it, and made people feel it.

[01:24:42]And that, ladies and gentlemen, is already a step forward, one of those that, by God.

[01:24:54]So, let's move on to the next point. I'd like you to give me a couple of minutes because I put the wrong script on the teleprompter, so I ca n't read it. I already have both glasses, uh, I already have both glasses. So, I'm going to leave it with Huerca's song, and in the meantime, I'm going to put today's text on the teleprompter because otherwise, I'll have to remember it. I used to do it once, but I've lost my touch. Okay, go ahead.

[01:25:50]There's a light behind the fear, a truth waiting to be awakened.

[01:26:02]Serene voices. Time and memory.

[01:26:06]A people learns to walk.

[01:26:13]Cuba lives in every thought, in every story to be told, because silence also preserves what should not be changed.

[01:26:36]Tired hands, open eyes from the Hermitage of Charity, always looking toward the horizon. And every experience leaves its mark, every hope remains standing.

[01:26:53]We gather night after night with respect and dignity.

[01:27:06]Looking at the A world with firm conviction, without renouncing the truth.

[01:27:17]Focused, focused.

[01:27:23]Here the truth is spoken, because the history of our Cuba must never be forgotten.

[01:27:41]Focused, focused with firmness and clarity.

[01:27:51]We remain steadfast on the path without losing our will.

[01:28:03]Every word carries weight, every opinion, identity, looking at the world and its paths with experience and dignity.

[01:28:16]Focused, focused on the truth and on thought.

[01:28:27]Even if the night tries to cover us, the light returns once more.

[01:28:39]Focused, focused, with memory and will.

[01:29:00]We never surrender.

[01:29:08]Why?

[01:29:25]Okay. Well, let's... Now I have the teleprompter here. Let's see. Let's go.

[01:29:34]Well, gentlemen, let's continue with the relevant topics.

[01:29:42]Two planes collided two days ago during a maneuver, during some exhibition flights. Actually, both planes collided, each plane with two crew members who, thank God, managed to eject. They were rescued and are not seriously injured, but the only thing to lament was the material loss. Of the two planes that must have been completely burned. But well, luckily there were only material losses, because the four pilots, as I said a minute ago, ejected and managed to save their lives, thank God.

[01:30:37]Another relevant point is that Mark Ferman died at 74 years old.

[01:30:45]For those who don't live in the United States, even for many who do, but only live in the United States 40% of the time because they only—and this isn't good, yes, it's a criticism, but it's not constructive criticism— only watch Spanish-language television, only watch Spanish-language television.

[01:31:10]Okay. Mark Ferman was at one point, I don't know if you remember, during the trial of O.J. Simpson, the first criminal trial.

[01:31:24]Well, Mark Ferman was at one point the star witness for the prosecution.

[01:31:35]I'm going to—I'm thinking out loud—elaborate on the topic so you remember. But remember, this happened in '92, if I'm not mistaken. No, no, not in '92, the O.J. Simpson trial was in '94 Simpson. It lasted practically a whole year, and I think it was the first time television followed a trial from beginning to end, from the first day to the last.

[01:32:19]Mark Ferman was, for a time, the prosecution's star witness.

[01:32:27]Later, I'll tell you who the Attorney General was, who the assistant attorneys general were who handled this trial.

[01:32:41]And well, I hope you know that Simpson was acquitted in that case, and I want to use it to bring up the issue of money. And I want to do a program with Faisicel about that because we say justice is equal for everyone, but there are people who can afford very good lawyers while the rest of us have to go with government-appointed lawyers, who we know generally don't have the resources, the stature, the appearance, or the structure to do the necessary investigations. This idea that justice is equal for everyone is the biggest fallacy I've ever seen in my life.

[01:33:43]Um, I want to discuss this in a relevant way. No, I don't want to. No, yes, you want me not to. No, this isn't going to happen. Let's move on to the next topic, and I'll elaborate later when I discuss this in the relevant sections. Another relevant point, just thinking out loud, is that Trump supposedly suspended an attack on Iran, which he says was just an hour away from launching, because theoretically, it seems like a sort of agreement is finally close.

[01:34:37]I personally believe that all of this is theater, and that he moved some forces to pressure the Tehran regime and then said, "Hey, wait a minute, but I think it's all smoke and mirrors because, gentlemen, I do n't believe the Tehran regime is going to give in."

[01:35:06]Intron is going to have to give him a good whack on the head, because what I do agree with 1000% is that what cannot happen is that Terán gets the nuclear bomb and has us like the panda, because that would be the end of civilization.

[01:35:31]I believe we are in the middle of a masquerade ball from which we could emerge victorious, but a masquerade ball nonetheless. We will have to follow the situation very closely, gentlemen, seriously.

[01:35:51]Okay, so let's give you the curtain of thinking out loud, please.

[01:36:01]Okay, let's go. Thinking out loud.

[01:36:21]Well, gentlemen, it is important never to give up trying to erase the [ __ ] narrative and impose our own.

[01:36:41]And to those who mock my claim to one day impose the narrative of the right or the center-right or common sense, whatever we want to call it, I will reply that about 100 years ago, right?

[01:37:04]Cranchi was from the 1920s, right? Uh-huh. We are in the 26th century, that is, 104 or 105 years ago, it was unthinkable to even dream of one day changing the status quo in universities, in the arts, and yet today it is rare to see an educational center and an artistic manifestation that does not demonize us, does not call us supremacists.

[01:38:01]So, the question for those who are surprised by why I poop is, I don't know how the United States got to this point. I don't know how we got here. Ah, this youth.

[01:38:18]So, there are many people who are surprised.

[01:38:23]I have two questions. The first one is, where the hell were you guys? Where the hell were they?

[01:38:32]While millimeter by millimeter they have eroded our space.

[01:38:44]So you also wonder, how did they do it? And the answer to this is an energetic working, damn it, working and paying the bills.

[01:39:02]Look at how much money the enemy spends to pay for their survival, because it's a matter of life or death.

[01:39:14]While our millionaires, the so-called right-wingers, the neighborhood crooks, revel in their stinginess without understanding how close they are to losing everything.

[01:39:39]All.

[01:39:43]Okay, the next topic in thinking out loud is the dream team.

[01:39:51]I don't know, I was talking about the relevant issues in the OJ Simpson case in connection with the death of Mark Ferman.

[01:40:06]Okay, I'm going to put things in context.

[01:40:11]Oj Simpson eh, number 32, that was the name, number 32, right? I don't remember. I think so. I think so. Oh, J Simpson was 32.

[01:40:27]Okay. I think it was number 32. He was an extremely famous, extremely charismatic American football player, who married a young white woman, Nicole La Ah, damn. What was Nicole's last name? Okay, I forgot. Nicole Simpson was there when she got married, but okay.

[01:41:09]Nicole, something like Nicole B or something like that.

[01:41:15]Well, Nicole had a sister, Denise, and she had her mother.

[01:41:27]And well, she starts dating Simpson.

[01:41:30]Simpson leaves his wife and marries her. They have two children, Justin and Sydney, who must be 5 and 9 years old by now, I think. At the time in '94, when the trial took place, it turned out that one night there had been several episodes of domestic violence at the Brandwood house in Beverly Hills, California.

[01:42:10]Uh, there had been quite a bit of exposure to the police, but since UJ was a tasty guy, well, the police, okay, the body of Nicole Simpson appears, who had already separated from OJ after episodes of beatings and things like that.

[01:42:36]The bodies of Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman are found. Who was Ron Goldman?

[01:42:43]A waiter who worked at the Metsaluna restaurant.

[01:42:48]And as for being a waiter, gentlemen, a waiter at Metsaluna earns in a month, possibly what I earn in a year. So I don't say it with the slightest reservation. Also, in California, especially in that area, many people study, uh, they have a career in acting and that, they work in nightclubs, they make some money and suddenly their opportunity comes and they become mega-millionaires.

[01:43:22]So I'm just saying this to put things in context.

[01:43:28]Okay, Ron Goldman.

[01:43:31]The bodies of the two appear with their throats slit. Okay. The Simpsons are being accused.

[01:43:39]Okay. The police messed up; the detective took the glove home because they found a glove that had allegedly belonged to Simpson for playing golf. Uh, okay. So, they retrieve the glove; they have it stored there in a refrigerated chamber.

[01:44:07]This detail is important. They have it in a refrigerated chamber. I'll come back to this detail shortly. So, OJ Simpson, who it seems could be put behind bars for a lifetime.

[01:44:26]Creates a his lifelong lawyer was Kardashian, the father of the Kardashians, the original father of the Kardashians.

[01:44:41]So, well, he was a good lawyer, but he's a real hack.

[01:44:47]There Esteon was with one foot in jail or the electric chair and the other in the cemetery.

[01:44:55]Then Simpson calls Bob Shapiro.

[01:45:01]Bob Shapiro was the first to approach.

[01:45:06]Then they call Johnny Cren, who had defended Michael Jackson.

[01:45:14]Johnny Carren has died. I think Chapiro also died of brain cancer, like Johnny Carrer.

[01:45:21]Then they called Bailey Hlye Bailey.

[01:45:31]Then they called Barry Sheck, the person who knows the most about DNA in our great country. He is a spectacular lawyer, specializing in DNA.

[01:45:47]They called What Else? What else? What else?

[01:45:53]Okay, I don't remember. Those were the fundamentals of the Dream Team. Notice that they named it the Dream Team.

[01:46:02]So, from the very beginning, the prosecution started making mistakes. The mayor, no, he wasn't the mayor.

[01:46:17]No, it wasn't the mayor. The mayor of Los Angeles was Villa Raigosa, I think.

[01:46:26]I think so, I think so. I don't know if D Ros had already arrived, but the DA was Garceri, a man of Italian origin, a hairy little guy. Ah, Garcetti.

[01:46:42]So, that was it, dear.

[01:46:46]The assistant Ds who handled the case were Mar Clark and Chris Darden. Christopher.

[01:46:59]Uh, so I remember that things were manipulated because Christopher Darkn was black, so they said to him, "How are you going to condemn a?" "What the [ __ ]?" The guy had to fight, and it didn't help his fight that he ended up in bed with Marcha Clark. So you say, "Well, they lost the case because they were incompetent or because they were more busy cuddling and enjoying the wild life than trying to find a conviction, a sentence for O.J. Simpson. We'll never know because you can chew gum and eat at the same time, really.

[01:47:51]But anyway, that's how it was.

[01:47:53]The judge's name was Ians Ito, of Japanese origin.

[01:48:01]The trial lasted practically a year, and I'm going to go back to the glove.

[01:48:14]Uh, from the very beginning, from the start of the trial, Johnny Ccker started sending him messages, but intelligent messages, not messages where he knew who was sending them. Indirect messages. ' Hey, tell Simpson to try it on, to try on the glove, brother. Tell him to try on the glove. If the glove fits, then we know it's his. Tell him to try on the glove.' And Christopher Darden refused. Johnny Cran was also Black.

[01:48:49]So, uh, but Johnny Cran, uh, well, he's a lawyer. You know how lawyers in this country are." His job is to get his client acquitted, right?

[01:49:03]So he used all sorts of maneuvers, like, if you 're some kind of guy, because honestly, they were irrelevant, sir, because Simpson was given every opportunity.

[01:49:22]But anyway, this also comes a few years after the beating they gave Ronny King, I don't know if you remember. He was a Black criminal, Ronny King, uh, but some cops beat him up and took him down.

[01:49:42]They took to the streets, they burned Los Angeles, damn it.

[01:49:46]Okay, so in the end, Simpson gets acquitted, in my opinion, 90% because Christopher Dard and Marshall Clark finally took the bait and said, "Try the GL, try the glove." And Johnny had run a line that said, " If it doesn't fit, you have to take him down." It was a joke.

[01:50:38]So these people say, "No, put it on him, gentlemen." After a glove has been in a refrigerated chamber, it shrinks. "They should have put talcum powder on him, they should have put a surgical glove on him before and after, but they didn't."

[01:51:08]And that started, and it was devastating for the jury. It wasn't that they were completely absorbed by it, but it was devastating. The jury, besides the fact that they changed a lot of jurors, I think there was only one left, but well, the jury after that image, because Simpson also pretended to be trying to put it on, and perfect.

[01:51:40]So that image is impossible to erase from your mind.

[01:51:47]Result: Simpson walks free.

[01:51:54]Simpson is already dead.

[01:51:57]He was in jail for something stupid, for... Okay. For some nonsense.

[01:52:03]Okay.

[01:52:05]Uh, Simpson gets out, and all this is to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, Simpson was Black.

[01:52:18]The lawyer who later took over everything because it was Bob Shapiro, but in the end it was Johnny who took over, who had already defended Michael Jackson. He was also Black.

[01:52:33]Christopher Darden, the assistant district attorney, was also Black.

[01:52:42]So, my question is, where is the racism in this country? Which surely exists, as it does everywhere. parts, but it's suffocating.

[01:52:52]But also, the main person involved was also Black. And he walked away.

[01:53:01]He got off scot-free, but it wasn't because of the color of his skin, it was because he had the money to pay.

[01:53:14]If that happened to you, you'd get cooked ten times over. Look, uh, what's his name? Flint, Michael Flint, the national security advisor appointed by Trump in his first term, who couldn't even take office because the FIE cornered him, and an innocent person, so as not to lose, because he realized he was going to lose everything, that he was going to lose his house, because here you have to pay lawyers unless you want to settle for a public defender, and we all know what public defenders are like. A complete and utter piece of [ __ ], and no, and it's possibly not because of a lack of intellectual capacity or competence, but because since they're not rich, since they don't have ten assistants, they have to do everything themselves.

[01:54:27]So, justice is truly equal for everyone.

[01:54:37]Is she blind?

[01:54:44]How?

[01:54:48]So, gentlemen, I can only conclude that justice is not It's the same for everyone, but those with money have a much better chance of getting away with it, even if they're guilty. This is a case that left many of us with a thousand doubts, because the bottom line is that those with money can afford to pay arrogant, impeccably dressed lawyers who practically curse out the public defenders. These lawyers are out of sorts, overwhelmed, and constantly swamped with work, while we all stupidly say that the law is the same for everyone.

[01:56:01]Yes, for everyone who can afford it. That's one of the flaws of our society. I'll leave you with that. But do you really believe that the law is the same for everyone?

[01:56:29]I'm going to try to bring in Dr. Faisel Iglesia to discuss this topic with him, because I truly believe it's extremely important, and that legal representation is essential for all citizens.

[01:56:52]So you ask yourself, how many people must be in jail who perhaps did nothing wrong? And how many criminals are on the streets? Number one, because they have money, or because they're criminals kept on the streets by the ISDA. This is the new A variation, uh, that I'm going to delve into tomorrow about why the [ __ ] is so tolerant of criminals and so intolerant of the people.

[01:57:39]Let's see. Let's go. Tomorrow that's going to be the first topic of Thinking Out Loud.

[01:57:47]Well, folks, tomorrow we have Marrero here. With Marrero, as I promised, we're going to try to analyze Trump's visit to China.

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