Brad Olsen on Antarctica Mysteries: Operation Highjump, Admiral Byrd & Hidden History

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[00:00:00]In one case, he describes this crack in the ice and just went for miles. They landed on it and they're kind of looking down into it and they could hear a humming sound like machinery down there.

[00:00:10]So, they knew that there was some kind of settlement or factory that was in operation and they knew that uh this was very dangerous territory. What if one of the most restrictive places on Earth isn't empty? From ancient maps to modern military encounters, Antarctica may hold secrets that connect lost civilizations, hidden technology, and something buried deep beneath the ice. Brad Olsen joins me to break this all down. This is the Ryan Files. Let's dive in.

[00:00:42]Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Ryan Files. This week, man, I am so excited. We've got Brad Olsson on the show. Now, Brad is an extreme traveler, author, and researcher who has spent years exploring hidden history, secret sites, and the mysteries that surround them. In his book, Secrets of Antarctica, Brad connects mainstream Antarctic science with ancient civilizations buried under the ice.

[00:01:03]Secret Nazi expeditions, Admiral Bird's mysterious encounters, and modern whistleblower claim claiming that something extraordinary may still be happening beneath the continent today.

[00:01:13]Brad, welcome to the Ryan Files. Good to have you on, buddy.

[00:01:17]Hey Ryan, thanks for uh reaching out and having me on. It's going to be a great conversation. I'm looking forward to talking to you and uh yeah, let's get down and dirty in Antarctica. There you go. So, exploring uh the topic of the Antarctica. And obviously in the work that I do with this podcast, it comes up all the time and everybody has their opinion about it, but no one's really sat down and had that one book that kind of gets into all the craziness of it. um because there's a lot of different aspects and you know throughout history obviously and then up until modern day.

[00:01:49]So let's just dive in. I mean you actually have been down in that area. Uh your explorations kind of led you to there. A lot of people say you can't go there. I know that that's not the truth but um tell us about you know first of all how your fascination began with Antarctica.

[00:02:05]>> Sure. Well, probably like you, it's just one of those mysterious places that I've always felt, boy, if I could go there, that'd be a great opportunity. And seven years ago, I had that opportunity. And it was aboard a sailboat crossing the Drake Passage. Not an easy way to go by any means, but in my book, Secrets of Antarctica, I have a picture as we are sailing into the Antarctic Pyramid uh Peninsula and wearing my uh cold weather gear. But I tell you, there were a lot of things that happened that I didn't expect. For example, there were two days that sun came out and we were took the polar plunge, jumped in the ocean with the penguins and the icebergs and sat on the deck of the boat in our bathing suits and sunbathed. So there there's a bit of a misconception that it's always cold down there. Just like in the Arctic, if you were to go to northern Alaska, there are days that are going to be warm enough to wear a bathing suit there, too.

[00:03:08]>> Right. Right. Well, yeah. Cold is cold though, Bubba. I tell you what, you take that cold plunge, you uh it'll wake you up, right?

[00:03:17]>> Oh, it wakes you up.

[00:03:18]>> Yeah. Every everything feels warm after you get out of that water. That's for sure. That's for sure. So, you've been down there. Um what's the first u kind of thing that made you say, "Hey, there's something going on here. Uh I need to write a book about it."

[00:03:34]Well, as far as I know, I'm the first researcher in this field who's gone down there self- financed to look into these bigger questions about what's really going on, what might be hidden under the ice. And my investigation began before we even got on the boat. It started at the Ushua Argentina yacht club where we're invited for New Year's Eve party.

[00:03:58]And I talked to several captains and crew members. And then when I got down there and went to uh six different research stations by six different countries, my questioning was the same.

[00:04:12]And that is, have you heard anything about uh these giant UFOs that are poking through the ice uh that have been known about since the 1970s when we're nicknamed by our intelligence service, the Nina Pinta in Santa Maria?

[00:04:27]as they know. Haven't heard about that.

[00:04:29]Well, have you heard about anti-dolivian civilization or these pyramids poking up through the ice? No, don't know about that. What about giants or UFO sightings or anything paranormal? No, they didn't know about that either. But I did learn a few things that I wasn't expecting.

[00:04:48]One of which was in several locations they said, "But there are low places you are not allowed to go to. there are no fly and no go zones. And they also said uh at one Argentinian base that just a few weeks prior uh their sister base called Belgrano 2 had a UFO sighting and they were talking about it among themselves and uh I got it out of the guy. He at first didn't want to say anything and so that's kind of why I feel it was authentic cuz his uh partner speaking in Spanish saying no you're not supposed to tell him and >> finally he left and then I got it out of him. So there there is some high strangess in Antarctica to be sure and I think I uh encountered little glimpses of it.

[00:05:40]>> Right. For sure. It had to be cool to have boots on the ground there actually.

[00:05:43]>> Yeah. Um, so let's, you know, go back to the beginning, man. Um, Antarctica before the ice. You know, it seems that there was a time period, um, through fossils that they found and whatnot where Antarctica was not this ice covered continent, but actually had forests and, you know, trees and fauna and everything else. Um, which is a bizarre history to say the least given what it is today and what we've always just assumed that it has been, right?

[00:06:10]>> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And that is in the fossil record that there was megapana, megaplora ferns that could only draw grow in a tropical steamy jungle environment.

[00:06:24]There are even two species of dinosaur which have only been found in Antarctica. So dinosaurs of course are cold-blooded reptiles. They needed the warmth to exist and here they are living at this continent. So it does prove that there is the uh continental drift, the movement of the continental plates and that the continents that we're aware of have been in different positions on the globe at different periods of time. And in my presentation that I gave right after I came back to this at big conferences, I showed a map showing the crossover of different species.

[00:07:09]mostly of animals to Madagascar, to India, to Australia, and to Antarctica.

[00:07:16]And there was there was a crossover and some of these large land mammals, they would no way could have swam that distance. So again, it proves that continental drift is real and that Antarctica had once been closer to the equator and once uh supported a steamy jungle environment, >> right? You know, a lot of people think, you know, this is like uh 12,000 years ago or last ice age or or whatnot, but we kind of get some information from Matts. Um that kind of indicates that maybe this wasn't, you know, you know, 12,000 years ago. Maybe this is a little bit more in our recent history. And I know that you've definitely dived into the map world on this, which is fascinating to say the least.

[00:08:00]>> Yeah. Yeah. You can't uh you can't ignore it. And in my book, I have a chapter called Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings. And that's named after a book by Charles Hapgood, who's really the uh expert in this, and I quote him. Um, and also feature several of these maps that he also featured in his book. Now, let me just read this quote, which I start the chapter out in. said most of these maps, these very old maps of the age of exploration were of the Mediterranean and the Black Sea. Those are the first areas that were charted out, but maps of other areas survived. These include maps of the Americas and maps of the Arctic and Antarctic seas. It became clear that the ancient voyagers traveled from pole to pole. Unbelievable as it may appear, the evidence nevertheless indicates that some ancient people explored the coasts of Antarctica when its coasts were free of ice. It is clear too that they had an instrument of navigation for accurately finding the longitudes of places that was far superior to anything possessed by the people of ancient medieval or modern times all the way up until the second half of the 18th century.

[00:09:24]>> Oh wow.

[00:09:25]>> When longitude was fully understood and discovered. And so when you look at some of these maps, most especially the Perry Ree map, I'm sure you've heard of.

[00:09:35]>> Oh yeah.

[00:09:35]>> Which shows Yeah. the full coast of South America as seen here with Africa there, but also the bottom portion of it, a land mass, which is where Antarctica is. And so what's interesting about that portion, the bottom of the Perry Ree map is you see there's a series of islands, right? That's at a location known as the Fitner ice shelf.

[00:10:00]And they've been doing scans of the ice and finding indeed there are islands pretty close to the position as recognized on the Perry Ree map that are there. So it's it and even in the Perry Reese map he says in the finer notes on the writing on the side of the map that he used source maps dating all the way back to the library of Alexandria as well as the time of Polei which is a 2,000 years ago right >> and many of those maps are lost but some have survived such as the PTOI world map the very first map to basically show the entire world and I have it reproduced here that um also has a land mass on the bottom of the map. See here, a map of the world and Antarctica back in the time of the ancient Greeks. So to me this is one of the many smoking guns that uh the ancients had of of a grasp of the globe, the continents as where they are, but also like in the Perry Ree map, an understanding of the coastlines before they were covered in ice, >> right?

[00:11:14]>> So that must go back quite a distance.

[00:11:17]That must go all the way back to the the last ice age or before then, >> right? Well, we're talking really old source maps that were used for some of these.

[00:11:26]>> Interesting how that stuff will uh just keep on coming up because Perry Reese map, wasn't that in the 1500s? Uh >> 1513. Yeah.

[00:11:34]>> Yeah. So, I mean, and then you're going back to ancient Greece and then gosh, back to, you know, an ice age. So, who knows exactly when uh the shift happened from, you know, non ice covered to ice covered. But that is fascinating.

[00:11:48]uh scans, satellite scans and and whatnot, GPR and everything else have kind of ver verified like Yep. That was the coast that they got. I mean, it's still there's accuracies to this day.

[00:11:58]Correct.

[00:11:59]>> Oh, yeah. Very much so.

[00:12:01]>> Yeah.

[00:12:01]>> And there's another map that shows Antarctica being free of ice. And there's a passage that connects through uh through the continent and I'll show that to you in a minute. It's called the the Bachce map. You see how South Pole and then there's a water passage.

[00:12:24]>> Yeah.

[00:12:24]>> Through it. Well, if we look at what Antarctica looks like without the ice, lo and behold, it's a pretty good depiction of the continent with that uh waterway under the ice.

[00:12:40]>> Very cool.

[00:12:41]>> How they know that knowledge? It's just amazing.

[00:12:44]>> Do you think that there was a Antarctic uh um civilization, humanoid, you know, humans uh there? Um it seems like there there there was um but do you think that they had anything to do with the maps and we just kind of somehow through history lost track of who it was?

[00:13:02]>> Oh yeah, absolutely. It could be just about anybody and that some of them are very very old. It's known because some of them can be dated with the organic material. For example, the Perry Reese map is drawn on gazelle skin and others are on vellum and other organic material that can also be dated. But yeah, the big question is then who uh who did those earlier source maps? And so, um, yeah, that then that really opens up everything gets older and older as, uh, Graham Hancock says, and that includes where these maps came from.

[00:13:44]>> Yeah. Yeah. Poor Ferdinand Mellins rolling over in his grave like, "Yeah, I guess I'm not the first person to circumn the world." Um so you know we go through history um all these years and for the most part it seems like Antarctica just kind of remained unexplored you know and and certainly um just because of the way the uh the currents and everything are um it's not you you cross the Drake Passage it's not necessarily uh the most hospitable place in the world to be sailing um and obviously when you get there you're you're it's cold, you know, you're you're dealing with the elements. But fast forward to, you know, the the 1900s where we believe that there was a group of uh people called the Nazis from Germany that uh decided that they were going to go down there and start exploring. Um, and a lot of people, you know, automatically discredit this uh right out of the gate, man. And I've done some research on uh post World War II and how people were ex, you know, escaping on rat lines to Argentina and South America. Um, but it it seems like there's a connection for sure with Antarctica.

[00:15:00]Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because South America definitely has a lot of connections to Antarctica, not only being the closest continent, but also one of the locations that the U at the end of World War II, the fighting forces, the Vermacht, the Luftwaf, and the Crees Marine, the three forces of the military, all surrendered.

[00:15:28]But the Third Reich never surrendered, nor did the SS. And the SS, this elite core that was largely in charge of a lot of the advanced technology, they all disappeared at the end of the war. A lot of them, like I said, escaped on the rat lines, assumed new identities, got jobs there. Some of them came to America through Project Paperclip and kept their names like Warner von Braonn and Herman Oberth. But as far as Antarctica goes, it's an absolute fact that the Germans did go down there and set up a colony.

[00:16:02]This is their map of the area and it shows where uh the Schumacher ponds are, these lakes that never freeze. And I I always try to point out that Antarctica is the most volcanically active continent of the world. There are 14 known active volcanoes.

[00:16:24]>> Wow. and 93 geothermal vents, known heat sources coming up through the the mantle of the Earth. And so you have the propensity to open up these large under ice domes with that internal heat and an energy source and a habitable live space.

[00:16:45]>> Yep.

[00:16:45]>> It's quite plausible that there could have been and maybe still is some kind of advanced civilization that lives down there.

[00:16:53]>> Yeah. And you know, you look at just modern day Iceland to, you know, they're using geothermal to, you know, stay comfortably warm in a in a place that otherwise can be very cold, you know. So that's kind of interesting. Um, now they were down there before World War II. Um, >> yes. Was this a strategic thing just based upon um you know uh you know maybe having a base in another part of the world access to the Americas um or was it based upon some technology and maybe even some uh you know news information that they had through I mean there's listen there's a lot of different things that go on with the Third Reich including cult stuff and and some really you know wild stuff going on. So what was their purpose? I mean, it could be both, obviously, but what what do you think the purpose was of the Nazis going down to Antarctica?

[00:17:48]>> Well, remember in the 19th century and before the other European powers such as Britain, the sun never sets on the English Empire. Uh, the French were great colonizers. Even the Dutch who had Indonesia, the Spice Islands, is one of their colonies. The Germans were never really successful at colonizing faraway lands. They had a couple in Africa and Namibia and Somalia land, but they're kind of never really succeeded like the other European nations did. Even Belgium, small little Belgium had the Belgian Congo in the middle of Africa, which is something like 20 times the size of Belgium. So, Germany needed land to expand. they kind of were late to the game in uh claiming those colonies. So they always needed a place to go. And then so during the 1930s they started their explorations of Antarctica and by all intents and purposes they set up their base 211 the new Berlin city and then in my research I found a third place in New Schwaban land called the Thu Refuge. So they they put in several locations. They moved a lot of personnel down there. And that should be a telltale sign that they were there to colonize Antarctica. This is the Thu Refuge, which you can see is mostly underground, but utilizes uh geothermal activities, has submarine base and an air base. And I've been able to pinpoint this one because there are these uh domes in New Schwaban that are huge. You can see them on Google Earth.

[00:19:40]And I collected a few uh photos of them because they're just so fascinating and it looks just like that uh illustration I just showed of these um domes under the ice. So, so they had the ways, the means, the personnel and a lot of money went missing out of Europe at the end of the war because of course the uh Germans first thing they would do when they took a country like France, Belgium, Holland, they would go right for the gold stock piles and many metric tons of gold just went missing. Here are those domes I'm talking about. You can make this one out right here. And it's huge. You can fly an airplane into it.

[00:20:26]>> Wow.

[00:20:26]>> This is Google Earth, and I've been able to uh locate not only one, but two of them.

[00:20:32]>> Wow.

[00:20:32]>> Uh very close to each other. So, I think that's part of the tool uh colony. And and then you have all these missing Germans at the end of the war that have never been accounted for. um as well as uh Ukrainian women to uh give the men a little comfort down there. They were taken out uh and as well as the Croatians volunteered to go down there.

[00:21:01]And so some of this stuff is really fascinating, Ryan, because we came across this u transcript from one of Hitler's speeches. Very little known uh speech he gave about recruiting people to go down there. It's in a subchapter called the Germans never left. And then here are the Germans who uh had basically been in charge.

[00:21:27]Yeah. German's like, "Oh yeah, we lost World War II." And then you see you got uh Wernner von Braonn, head of NASA, Walter Halstein, head of the EU Commission, Adolf Hinger, NATO's chief of staff, and Kurt Waldheim, secretary general of the UN. All these high positions after World War II with former Nazi officers and SS, >> right? This is really interesting, Ryan.

[00:21:56]And if I could read this excerpt here.

[00:21:59]>> Yeah.

[00:21:59]>> It from the conscript of the fur's order from October 1st, 1940.

[00:22:05]>> Okay.

[00:22:06]>> So just right even before Pearl Harbor, >> right?

[00:22:10]>> They're already making plans to colonize Germany. The conscript reads, "The joint and organized research of our scientists, sailor, and submariners of the marine who achieve the impossible."

[00:22:24]This is Hitler talking. and the successful work of the SS detachments in the field of study, the heritage of the ancestors of the Great Reich have allowed us to discover new and immeasurable territories for the German Reich. So, here they are. They found a land they could colonize, which are located under the ice of the South Pole.

[00:22:47]In connection with the opening up of new territories, I order within the next six months with the members of the armed forces, the air force, the marine, and the reich chancellor the units of the SS to carry out a careful and covert selection of volunteers for the development of the armed forces.

[00:23:08]New territories of the German Reich and New Schwabinland. The commission that works on the selection of candidates must take into account that the volunteers will say goodbye to the fatherland forever and will be sent to New Schwabanand for a permanent stay.

[00:23:27]The measures for the resettlement of the best candidates from the ranks of the military and SS members must be carried out in strict secrecy. as a person responsible in the Reich for the resettlement of a part of the population of purebred Aryans to Nishwabanand for the ensuring the secrecy of this action.

[00:23:49]I appoint Reich Schlider Martin Borman signed the furer and Reich Chancellor the Supreme Commander of the armed forces.

[00:23:58]>> Wow.

[00:23:59]>> So he puts Borman in charge. Borman's the money man. He's the guy who was tried at the Nuremberg trials in absentium, sentenced to death if they ever caught him, but they never caught him. He keeps popping up all over the place in South America in the 1950s with all this money, all this loot that they got out of Europe and financing businesses and buying these huge trackcts of land in South America. And this is the South America connection, >> right, >> that John Leer calls micro nations. And I got close to some of them. Um, can't quite go into them because they're private property and heavily guarded.

[00:24:43]>> Wow.

[00:24:44]>> But they basically are these micro nations run by the Germans in Brazil, in Argentina, and Chile. And and now there are people that are starting to come out and say, "Yeah, we lived our whole life in some of these." And it it was kind of slave labor type of uh atmosphere. If you're not one of the top people, you're basically working for nothing. And they they basically that's where they moved a lot of the equipment after the war to these micro nations in South America and to the colonies in in Antarctica.

[00:25:20]>> Fascinating. Fascinating. So, base 211 is the the base, I guess, the the German base, the the one the first base that they had down there. Um, if you were to, you know, boots on the ground, stand over top of it today, >> you wouldn't know it was there, right?

[00:25:36]You might see, like you said, some do hills or or whatnot, but you wouldn't really know that it's there.

[00:25:41]>> No, it's under the ice. They're all under the ice or burrowed into a mountain side like the Thu Refuge. Did you ever hear of a guy named Robert Johnson? He's called the last survivor of Operation High Jump. He just passed away a couple years ago.

[00:25:57]>> Okay.

[00:25:58]>> But Rex Barer of the Leak Project got one of his last interviews and I've watched a bunch of his um testimony and how they kind of speak about what he said. So he was handpicked by Bird himself to go on Operation High Jump and rather than saying, "Are you okay with the cold? are you good with uh weapons?

[00:26:21]He says, "Can you keep a secret?" And he liked Robert Johnson. And he said, "Sure, of course I can, Admiral." And and you may not know this either, but Admiral Bird's son also accompanied him on Operation High Jump. And he died under very mysterious circumstances.

[00:26:39]>> But Robert Johnson kept his secret till the end.

[00:26:42]>> Wow. And it wasn't until he was in his 90s did he finally come out. And he said that they sent missions to New Schwabanand to look at areas on the ice. And some of them they knew there was something going on.

[00:27:00]In one case, he describes this crack in the ice which is perfectly straight and just went for miles. They landed on it and they're kind of looking down into it and they could hear a humming sound like machinery down there. So, they knew that there was some kind of settlement or factory that was in operation. Uh they lost a couple men trying to go into ice caves and they knew that uh this was very dangerous territory. So when operation high jump went into search and destroy, and this is what a lot of people don't understand about that operation, which was called off two months into the six-month expedition, >> because ships came up out of the ice and holes in the ice. And this is our rendition of the Battle of High Jump on the cover. They took out one ship. They could have taken out them all. And we couldn't shoot those craft down. They had some kind of force field around them and took out just about all the airplanes and had a great loss of life.

[00:28:04]And some of those uh sailors even made mention of that when they came back. And as they were coming back, Admiral Bird gave an interview uh to El Makurio newspaper. You probably know that where he said, "Have craft that can fly. We'll have a new enemy that can fly pole to pole at incredible speeds." Yeah, >> in 1947.

[00:28:28]>> If this episode has you thinking, we go even deeper in the aftermath. Unfiltered off camerara conversations that you won't hear anywhere else. Join us on Patreon at patreon.com/thean files. Now, let's get back to Brad Olsen. Well, what's fascinating about Operation High Jump is the fact that, okay, World War II had just ended. Um, and I I I think it's fair to say at that moment in time, most of the world was collectively breathing a sigh of relief.

[00:28:59]Uh, it had it had just experienced the biggest war in history. Um, and there was finally peace. Um but not in the United States because we decided to put together an entire basically an armada, you know, um fullon with battleships and aircraft carriers and everything, destroyers and launch, you know, with this force down to Antarctica. We weren't going on an expedition. We were going to war.

[00:29:27]>> Um and you know, it's just it's so evident by the personnel and what they took with them that that was the case.

[00:29:33]But they were expecting to go down there and they were ready for it, they thought. But apparently uh not so ready because like you said it was got cancelled after 2 months. Um their ships limped into the nearest deep water port which was uh Santiago I believe >> in Chile and um beautiful town by the way. Um but that's just a a fascinating piece of history and you also have Bird talking about it. I mean, I think it was before the handlers got to him. Um, he probably said things that he wasn't supposed to say, but like, you know, allegedly some high, you know, energy beam weapon split a ship in two and all kinds of stuff, you know, like we're not in Kansas anymore, but nobody seems to know this and or believe it.

[00:30:24]Well, that's to their own loss for not really looking into this and and doing their own research because a lot of this stuff is available now on the internet.

[00:30:36]Like I said, with Robert Johnson's last testimony, the diary of Admiral Bird, he underestimated them. He didn't think that they could weaponize these UFO craft in the way they did, and they were pretty much taken by surprise. But just like in this uh recent conflict, they struck first and then the response was much greater than they had anticipated.

[00:31:06]So Bird had to stumble home. Uh he was put in quarantine. Uh he did go down a fifth and final time after high jump.

[00:31:17]And this is called Operation Deep Freeze. And um Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, she's interviewed uh Captain Mark Richards on a number of occasions. He's in prison on falsified charges uh because he was part of the secret space program and he knows a lot of this stuff. And I bought his book called Operation High Jump at a UFO conference once, read the whole thing and excerpted it. And in it he says that after high jump that we were going to come back there and basically annihilate them. And they said, "Okay, hold on."

[00:31:55]There was a there was communication with the Antarctic Germans. By the way, they don't like to be called Nazis anymore.

[00:32:00]They're they're the Antarctic Germans.

[00:32:03]And they said, "Look, look, let's compromise. What do you want?" More than anything else, the US wanted a UFO craft. In fact, that's what Bird's original mission was to seek and destroy base 211. And they knew about two crafts that had there many more than that, but they knew that there were two and he was meant to bring those back. So then the US says, "All right, well, we want one of those UFOs." And during Operation Deep Freeze, they landed one on the deck of an aircraft carrier late at night and they whisked it back off. That was Bird's last mission. And then he kept talking when he shouldn't have because basically when he got back from high jump he was read the riot act for giving that interview with El Mccurio newspaper and then also um they reminded him look you're a military man you are sworn to secrecy but he kept talking about the land beyond the pole and there was that interview on long jeans radio black white >> and he says said several times that for young people to explore the world, well, it's getting kind of crowded up there in the Arctic. They should go down to Antarctica and there's this land beyond the pole. Well, what do you mean by that? Because according to uh mainstream, there's nothing on the polar plateau for hundreds of miles in all directions.

[00:33:32]There's no such thing as a land beyond the pole. But he kept saying that and I think they were a little bit frightened that Bird was going to finally spill the beans. And after that long jeans interview, he died of a heart attack in his bed only a couple months later. All right.

[00:33:53]But R when he got he was really good friends with James Foresttol.

[00:34:00]And remember James Foresttoall was the first secretary of defense. And so I have a picture here of uh Bird coming back with Foresttol and giving him a stuffed penguin.

[00:34:12]>> Yeah.

[00:34:13]>> And so Bird told Forestall everything.

[00:34:16]And so then Forestall is walking the corridors of of the Pentagon and like a madman saying, "The Nazis aren't defeated. They're still down there.

[00:34:28]They've got UFO craft. we can't do anything about it. And he wouldn't stop talking again. So they committed James Forestell to Bethesda Hospital. He even started talking again to the hospital staff and then they said, "Well, he's got to be silenced once and for all." So then he he got suicided out the top window of the >> naval hospital there in Bethesda, Maryland. And it said that James Foresttol is the first casualty of the UFO cover up.

[00:35:00]>> Wow.

[00:35:01]>> And it has to do with Antarctica.

[00:35:03]>> Yeah. Fascinating. Uh speaking of bird, um in his diary and uh just everything that is kind of a he's kind of an enigma. I mean this dude has he got like what three ticker tape parades I think.

[00:35:16]Oh yeah. And just like >> what a what an interesting character to say the least. Um, but man, he brought up some other fascinating things. It's kind of off the topic, but kind of connected. Um, ideas about hollow earth, uh, the lands beyond, you know, what are or do we got the wrong model of the earth? Uh, all kinds of stuff like that.

[00:35:38]What has your research kind of I mean, you you got to be just, you know, people automatically are like crazy about this stuff. They just, you know, it's polarizing to say the least. But, um, what's your research telling you about some of those topics?

[00:35:55]>> Yeah. The no-fly zone over the North Pole, the conscript of Adolf Hitler saying, "We're going to make a colony near the South Pole, and Bird's diary describing flying into a verdant green valley."

[00:36:13]>> Yeah. And as soon as he gets down there, they lose control of the plane and lose touch with the radio. And wing tip to wing tip, these two what he described as fluger rods or honeyoo craft um come over the radio and say, "Hello, Admiral Bird. You are in good hands. We will be landing shortly in the domain."

[00:36:36]And he describes this in detail in his diary.

[00:36:39]>> Yeah. The missing diary of Admiral Bird, a secret expedition and journey to a paradise inside the earth is the subtitle. And then in there, and I excerpted in the book, he is then escorted into this city, which he calls like a Buck Rogers city. I I kind of imagine it like the the Wizard of Oz.

[00:37:01]All right. And they get to the Emerald City under the ice and they go on these uh floating uh conveyor belts into the inner domain of the Ariani. And he goes to meet the master who then warns him about uh the US just nuking Nagasaki, Pearl Harbor, and doing nuclear bomb tests, how dangerous that is. And and when he's meeting with the master, he says, "Well, why did you want me to come here?"

[00:37:36]>> Yeah.

[00:37:36]>> As he he said that he he got telepathic messages that he was meant to go back.

[00:37:42]He was the very first one, by the way, to discover and fly over the South Pole.

[00:37:48]And I have his flight map here in the book. So Bird must have seen the hole in the ice. And this is just a few years after Almanson and Scott party reached it in 1913. Here's Bird flying over the pole. And you'll notice right here um the blowup. He gets to the pole and you'd think, "Oh yeah, we made it. Let's turn around and head back." No, they fly over 150 miles out of their way to see something under the ice. And that is in the exact location that uh Brian S. who I got the great opportunity to interview last year for this book. He was one of Linda Molton How's um whistleblowers and he he basically saw the hole in the ice and I asked him at length what that was like and how was he able to um see it. But I'll show you this map of um the clean air sector. And there's a blowup right over the South Pole. That's the no-fly zone. And it's also a nogo zone.

[00:39:07]You're not even allowed to uh take a snowmobile or cross it in any way. And so Brian S had to do this emergency evacuation. This is his map, right? He says um he told Lyn Molten and myself that they had to fly out to the coast to the Davis station an emergency evacuation from the South Pole and the direct route was right over this clean air sector. And when they did it, everybody on the crew saw the giant hole in the ice. So I kept pining him down. I said, "Okay, well what did it look like?" He said, "Well, there were snowmobile and and cat tracks that went out from the South Pole station where you're not supposed to go even overland."

[00:39:57]And there was no buildings, there were no towers, there was no equipment to indicate it was a clean air sector. So he said that was just a cover story because they're covering up the hole in the ice. So these snowmobile tracks go directly to the hole and then they corkcrew down into the hole. There's a road that goes down there as well. So not only can you fly a plane down into it, you can take a a cat track or a snowmobile down into it, too. And so Prince Harry goes there in 2013 with a bunch of his army buddies. They go cross-country skiing across the polar plateau where there's supposed to be nothing for a week and then they must have gotten permission to go take a look at the hole, maybe even go down it a certain >> Wow, that's very interesting. We'll get we'll get to uh politicians and the the big hole here in a second. Um fascinating, man. Um so, you know, you've got Germany now. I I didn't know about Deep Freeze.

[00:41:03]So, that's interesting. You know, they just uh landed a UFO on our aircraft carrier and we went on our way.

[00:41:09]Interestingly enough, all this was happening about the same time as Roswell. Um so, which is fascinating. Um and you wonder if there's any connections there. But anyways, you know, all all of a sudden comes along the Antarctic Treaty and I think it's now 58 countries um and whatnot, which again it it It basically makes the continent um offlimits uh you know and essentially um obviously you can go there and there's ways to get there and things like that but you got to go through a lot of uh paperwork and red tape and it's very expensive. Um there was a gentleman who uh did something called the final experiment recently. There you go. the Antarctic treaty up he signed on.

[00:41:59]>> Uh and uh he had an experiment called the final experiment. It was about disproving flat earth and the midnight sun in in December and so on so forth.

[00:42:08]But he was and he's a millionaire. He's a millionaire, but he was able to go. Uh I interviewed him. Um interesting individual to say the least. But all that being said, for all intents and purposes, it's it's kind of off limits.

[00:42:22]Uh, and they say that because, hey, we want to we want to preserve this. We want it to just stay in its natural state. You know, we don't want to disrupt the ecosystem with all of our stuff. Meanwhile, it it sounds like that's exactly what's happening, but it's just all on the down low. And it sounds like there's something there that doesn't allow someone to take it over in as much as um I I I guess whenever you get 50ome countries cooperating on something like that all some of which are enemies um it seems like there's more to the equation than just you know some I mean crying out loud we look at the rest of the planet Brad we're not worried about that but we're going to go to this extreme for Antarctica. Something's up, right?

[00:43:10]>> Yes, something's up. And I quote a uh interview with one of the top military people out of Iran of all countries who said that they want to put up a base and they're just going to defy everybody else's uh opinion of where they should put it at the South Pole.

[00:43:29]>> Yeah.

[00:43:30]>> So, I think the word is out in the intelligence community that this is the core secret. This is what they're hiding is this entrance way down two miles below the polar plateau to a secret location to the city, the domain of the Ariani that bird flew to and also where the Germans were able to navigate their yubot. And I'll just show you. These are some authentic map documents that came out after the end of World War II. Well, they were they were basically, as you know, um Russia, there's our mascot.

[00:44:09]>> Yeah.

[00:44:11]>> As you know, uh Russia was the first to get to um Berlin, right? the end of >> so they pulled out all the documents from the navy, air force, army and also the um ar uh the um ananurbase society which was the occultic study group that Hitler mentioned in that conscript that they were looking for the origins of the Aryan Empire. Right. So, here is the German yubot instructions that go specifically to a place called Agartha.

[00:44:51]>> Wow.

[00:44:51]>> In this inner earth realm. And this is called uh the orders for the map for passing of the ocean depths. And you know how Germans are, they're very exact. They say 953.2 meters. That's what they mean, right?

[00:45:06]>> So, we were able to chart it out on Google Earth. This is really fascinating, Ryan. So, just according to all the German directions, where do they go? Within a 100 miles of the South Pole.

[00:45:19]>> Wow.

[00:45:20]>> But like Hitler said in the conscript, we want to set up our colony there. So when when a bird flies in, and this was one of the first flights of 19 of late 1946, first flights of high jump. He goes down there and it's these two tall Germanic guys that are flying the flugarods that escort him to his meeting with the master. And on the way out they um they lead him out the same way he came. Last thing they say is off vidane goodbye in German. They're speaking German down there. So what I think is the new Berlin city kind of co-opted with the domain of the Ariani and that's where the biggest settlement of the Germans is located.

[00:46:14]>> Fascinating.

[00:46:17]Do you think there's a connections with um the fatherland Germany? Uh do you think that they kind of become their own breakaway civilization?

[00:46:25]>> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's called the the dark fleet or knockwaffen.

[00:46:30]And I've even met some uh super soldiers who came out of the knockoff.

[00:46:36]Yeah. I was just speaking at a conference in the UK in December and two of them, Penny Bradley and Drago Reed, we were on a a closing panel and the uh the conversation turned to the black goo. And I have a chapter of it in my book because it's an island located not too far off of Antarctica, a few hundred miles away that's perpetually frozen called South Tulle Island. And that is where the black goo is stored because when it's frozen, it's inert. It can't activate. But when it's brought to a warmer climate, then it can be used.

[00:47:16]And in the case of these super soldiers, they both said they took small amounts of it to give them incredible stamina on the battlefield or to be able to withstand pressurized environments such as in a submarine or in a spaceship.

[00:47:35]>> Wow. And so that's what the Faulland Wars was all about was to acquire this black goo in 1982 and use it for their secret space program. Wow. Interesting.

[00:47:50]Fascinating stuff. You uh mentioned uh Linda Molton How um several times um and uh she also had a whistleblower that she interviewed specific to Antarctica um referred to as Spartan One.

[00:48:03]>> Oh yeah. Um, tell me a little bit about Spartan One and um, I I guess everything. Uh, it's a fascinating story.

[00:48:13]>> Yeah, it sure is. And Linda just has an impeccable reputation that the whistleblowers know they can trust her.

[00:48:22]She she won't give up names if they don't want or she'll basically protect their uh, their material if they want.

[00:48:31]And so this is Spartan one.

[00:48:34]I would say this is another one of those massive craft under the ice. This is um Nina Pinter Santa Maria. And this is what is showing through the ice. And this is basically this the scene of the Beardmore glacier where it's located.

[00:48:52]and he goes into this thing and it's the touch of a finger opens a door and then it's in a space that's much much larger than what it appears from the outside.

[00:49:03]And incidentally, that's what people who are abducted or go into UFOs report that it looks like it's a small 33 and feet in diameter craft, but when you go inside, it's a massive room. So this is the same case and it goes way down deep down into the ground. So it could be a connection point also to an underground base. But it had these strange hieroglyphic writing almost um almost Egyptian.

[00:49:34]But what there definitely was is this indication of the black sun. This is also a Spartan one rendition of what he saw. these walls with hieroglyphs and then the black sun, this very very uh occultic symbol of this power source of this orgon energy of this vril energy they also called it or of this inner sun of inner earth. It is one of the most mysterious symbols of the third reich and they love their symbols.

[00:50:11]>> Oh yeah. Ani swastika is full of symbolism and meaning. But this black sun, by the way, it is still forbidden to use just like the swastika. You can't fly a flag outside your home with the black sun or the swastika or even build one of these model kits of the honey craft. So my other colleague David Hatcher Childris who's also written about uh Antarctica and the German high technology he ordered one of these model kits of the Haniboo all the way from Turkey because you cannot buy them in Germany. It's illegal.

[00:50:54]>> Wow.

[00:50:54]>> Yeah. So they're hiding something down there. Brian, I don't think they want us to know to the extent that uh they had developed this high technology.

[00:51:06]>> And it's fascinating to the a word that comes two words that come up again and again and again and again uh tool and veril. Uh there was a tool society and there was the veril society and they were connected with the cult stuff and you're saying real energy um connected with the black sun. It's just uh there, like I said, we're not in Kansas anymore. There's more going on here than uh maybe at surface value. Um no pun intended, right?

[00:51:34]>> Yeah, exactly. Much more going on here.

[00:51:37]Um get into the VR women who are the psychic mediums. Here's the picture of the Honey Boo 2 model by Revel.

[00:51:48]>> Wow. And in the inside is just uh like an authentic UFO with the the jump seats in there and everything we've uh been told. You can buy it as a model kit.

[00:52:00]>> That's crazy.

[00:52:00]>> Hilarious. the the the Nazis fascination with the occult, starting with the real women, Maria Orsik and Sigril, uh is unparalleled in modern western history because the Third Reich was the first and the last government to openly support the studies into the occult. And they were absolutely fascinated with the idea that there was an ancient ancestor, the Arians, who who could have lived under the ice or in another part of the world. They were doing these expeditions to Tibet and southern France. Just like in the movie Raiders of the Lost Ark, you know, life imitates art and art imitates life in this case. And they really were doing these uh expeditions in the 1930s because they wanted to get these artifacts. They felt that they knew in a coming war that they were outnumbered. So they needed a qualitative advantage, not quantitative. They knew they didn't have the numbers like the Soviet Union or the Allies. So they had to build everything better and their armaments were much better, all their tanks and everything else. The only thing they blew it was with the Enigma machine and that was how they cracked the code and basically took out a whole bunch of Ubot.

[00:53:29]>> Yeah.

[00:53:30]>> Um and they didn't know until the end of the war that uh >> the Enigma code had been cracked.

[00:53:36]>> Of course, the a movie about that and Allan Turing was this uh this genius in the UK who was able to figure it out, >> right? And he so even with um as it relates to Antarctica, the British had several bases down there and I've I visited two of them. One of them called Port Lockroy and another one at the Vernansky base, which is now Ukrainian, but was donated to them by the British. And you walk into them, Ryan, and it's like you're stepping back in time. The radios are still there. or even some of the canned food is on the shelf and just a lonely existence living down there. But they were using the cracked enigma code to spy on the Germans and this is how we knew that they were bringing all kind of material and personnel to their new Schwaban land base, >> right? um because they were spying on him. And one of the last transmissions out of Germany was uh Guring who was put on trial at Nuremberg and sentenced to death. He popped a cyanide cap before they could hang him. But he was talking to a yubot off southern Terod del Fuego, one of the last cables out of the Third Reich, and giving instructions to a yubot all the way down there.

[00:55:00]>> Wow.

[00:55:02]So many data points connect to the Germans setting up shop down there and existing well beyond the war.

[00:55:11]>> Yeah. Yeah. The fascinating thing that we haven't really really got into um in all this, we we've touched on it, but it's basically the ET question, >> you know. Um is this like a secret? You know, you talk about the Ariani. Um >> yeah, >> but are are we talking about um humans?

[00:55:34]Are we talking about non-human intelligence? What are we talking about here? uh as it relates not just to Antarctica but I guess the phenomenon that you see worldwide um disclosure and everything else that people are talking about but like what are what is the the ET factor in all of this?

[00:55:53]Glad you brought that up, Ryan, because I got a whole chapter called Antarctica ETS in the book where I just put together all the evidence for uh bases down there as well as pictures from Google Earth about anomalous looking machinery type craft on the surface, >> right? and also the scans below the ice showing um city-like grids. Um and just like remember how last year when they were doing the scans of the Giza Plateau and all information came out about what's underneath >> Egypt and around Cairo. Same thing here.

[00:56:37]They're doing it and scanning around uh these certain areas and finding incredible city-like grids. And I'll just remind your audience that mother nature does not create perfect right angled cities.

[00:56:55]And this is just is too much of a coincidence to have um these scans that are coming back with what look like a whole planned city grid uh for it not to be something um very advanced out there below the ice.

[00:57:15]>> Absolutely.

[00:57:16]Um, you have uh John Kerry uh you have Prince Harry now skiing across the head.

[00:57:24]>> Yep.

[00:57:28]>> Fascinating.

[00:57:30]>> Uh you got John Kerry visiting on the the last day of the um >> presidential election.

[00:57:38]>> Yeah. And going down to Antarctica kind of quick little trip. seems that that just doesn't make a lot of sense unless there's something there that is I guess potentially impacting power in the world um to some degree. What's your thoughts on that?

[00:57:58]>> Yeah. Right. Exactly. He was the first Secretary of State to go down there during his term. He was there when Trump won the first time against Hillary Clinton in 2016.

[00:58:13]You'd think he'd be campaigning for his party in the US, but no, he's going down Antarctica. And after he landed at McMmero, he then got back in the plane and went further a field somewhere that nobody knows for about a week. So presumably to one of these uh inner uh planetary corporate conglomerate they're called ICC uh bases where he was given the marching orders or to to basically say okay here's Trump in power what do we do and getting his own orders to take back and say uh okay this is how they want us to handle it >> fascinating changes your u perspective on geopolitics ics some of this, you know.

[00:59:01]>> Yeah.

[00:59:02]>> Yeah, for sure. What's your uh what's anything that we I haven't hit on, I guess, basically in your book that uh you want you want people to know about?

[00:59:12]>> Uh well, there's there's a chapter about the Patagonian Giants.

[00:59:15]>> Yes. Yes.

[00:59:16]>> Patagonia is a region in south southern tip of South America as well as Terod Del Fuego. And we had to drive through there to get to Ushuaya where 90% of all the boat traffic leaves from. And when we get to uh Terod Deluego, take a ferry over the Mellan Straits. And I'm thinking, oh, land of fire, Terod Deluego. We should see volcanoes, but it's not. It was named the land of fire because the Patagonian giants would create these huge bonfires that the European explorers would see at night and they'd see them dancing around the fires. And these giants, Ryan, they were twice the size of a normal human. Uh, in fact, Mellin was the first to encounter them. And he said uh in the official histo history history of the Mellan trip that these giants their hips would come up to the shoulders of the Europeans.

[01:00:20]>> Yeah. little montage of images of these Patagonian giants. And they may have emerged from an opening in Antarctica and just migrated to this area of South America, which by the way is the closest other continent to Antarctica, >> right? And so there was a book called The Smoky God of a Father and Son Norwegians who sailed north and entered the North Pole uh hole in the ice, sailed all the way through and then popped out in our uh in in Antarctica some years later, but all the while experienced these giants when they were down there. And when the sun was sailing back, he met the Patagonian giants and said that, "Well, these are some of the remnants of the giants of inner earth and they've just made their way to the surface and have lived there for many generations."

[01:01:22]>> Fascinating, man. Kind of changes everything. Uh, you know, the the the makeup uh of the earth, uh, the anatomy, I guess you could say, of the earth. um all the stories that are hidden. You know, there's so many stories about giants that have just been crushed and hidden and Smithsonian Smithsonian away uh hidden and disappeared. Um and it it's fascinating because you bring it up and you know, you'll get a little uh this video will get a little uh context warning on it.

[01:01:54]You know, there's no such thing as giants. There's no such thing as Antarctica is just a base. all this different stuff. And you know, it's it's so funny that all these quote unquote conspiracies um we have seen recently how there's so many conspiracies that you couldn't talk about that now all of a sudden everyone's like, "Yeah, okay. It it's true." You know, and so it's it's like there's something to all this. There's just too much there there for there to be nothing.

[01:02:22]>> I agree. Yeah. Yeah. It's the big uh big enigma. And that's why I say on the back of the book, all roads lead to Antarctica. Of course, no roads lead to Antarctica, but all the conspiracies do.

[01:02:35]And uh it continues to fascinate. So every year there are these big stories that came out of Antarctica. So last year was the scanning of the po ice and then finding these gridlike cities down there. Uh they're also finding uh radio waves and cosmic rays that are coming up out of Antarctica. Usually they're they're coming down, but this year the big story was the gravity holes that have been detected. So just these big gravity anomalies under the ice in Antarctica. So there's just something really strange and not fully understood about what's underneath the ice down there. And to me, it's one of the last great mysteries of planet Earth.

[01:03:21]>> All right.

[01:03:21]>> Under the ice in Antarctica and the deepest depths of the ocean are really the last unexplored terrain on this planet.

[01:03:28]>> Absolutely. And ironically, the two places that you find UFOs going to and coming from.

[01:03:36]>> What do you know?

[01:03:37]>> What do you What do you know? Um, aliens, uh, interplanetary, uh, inside the Earth, uh, all of it, interdimensional. What's your thoughts?

[01:03:49]>> Probably all the above, Ryan, because you know how we've always been conditioned, oh, look to the skies. The extraterrestrials are going to come down from some far away planet. What about right below our feet? What about the inner terrestrials here on Earth? Yeah.

[01:04:05]And then the third category are the ultraterrestrials, those interdimensional extraterrestrials that can phase in and out of our reality.

[01:04:14]>> Yeah.

[01:04:15]>> So there's just so much we don't know and so much we're learning that is just absolutely mind-blowing and that is finally being accepted by academia, the government. You know, Trump last month tweeted out that he's ordering all the the military to release everything they know on UAPs and UFOs. So, we're we're living in an extraordinary time right now.

[01:04:40]>> And what seemed absolute fantasy or crazy talk five years ago, now people are accepting is reality.

[01:04:51]>> That's what's so funny about it, right, Brad? I mean, it's like like you said, five years ago, just five years ago, >> I mean, and how much and how quickly things have changed. But I guarantee you this. I guarantee you this. I believe with all my heart, so many of the answers lie in Antarctica.

[01:05:12]>> You got that right.

[01:05:14]>> Yeah. Tell people how they can get your book, man. Uh, and follow you and all your research, everything that you do.

[01:05:20]That's awesome.

[01:05:21]>> Thank you. Well, yes. To to get a signed copy of the book, go to cccpublishing.com, that's my business publishing website along with other authors, Leo Lagami, Michael Jacobo, Laura Eisenhower, several other authors, but all of my books are on there. And if you order my books off of cccublishing.com, you can get a signed copy. It's about the only place to to get a signed copy or if you see me at a conference. and I'm leaving tomorrow morning for LA.

[01:05:53]I'll be at the Alien Event Biomed Expo this weekend. Uh, and go to brad Olsen.com for my conference schedule.

[01:06:01]Um, and uh, otherwise you can find this book on Amazon or all the large book retail websites or if they don't have it, I always try to encourage people to go support small businesses. If your local bookstore doesn't have it, they can order it within a day or two.

[01:06:20]We got a great distributor, independent publishers group. They'll get it shipped out right away.

[01:06:26]>> Awesome, man. What's next on the agenda for Brad? What what what do you got going on? Can you talk about it at all?

[01:06:32]>> Sure. Sure. Well, I am writing my 12th book, which is uh underwater archaeology. So, >> yes, >> that'll be out in about two years. It takes me three years minimum to write a new book, but I'm well underway. and even a 13th book on giants which will be out probably uh 2030ish.

[01:06:51]>> Gotcha. I >> takes me a while. But then uh I've got a whole bunch of great conferences I'm going to including contact in the desert which will be end of May. Also in May I'm going to Germany to give this new presentation about the German Ubot under the ice. So that'll be really interesting to see how well received that'll be. And then I'm also going to uh Bosnia in June for the pyramid conference in uh Dr. Sam puts that on near Sievo. So that's going to be cool at the Bosnian pyramid site.

[01:07:28]>> So just a whole bunch of conferences over the next couple months starting this weekend. I call it conference season begins >> as ski season uh tape was off.

[01:07:38]>> I was going to say, yeah, you were just you were just ski >> my life.

[01:07:41]>> Nothing wrong with that. Hey, this has been a fascinating conversation. I appreciate you so much. Thanks for coming on the Ryan Files, man. If you ever need anything, get a hold of me.

[01:07:48]All right.

[01:07:49]>> Yeah, you bet. And let's do it again sometime. This is great, Ryan.

[01:07:52]>> Awesome. Ladies and gentlemen, >> all the right questions.

[01:07:55]>> Get his book. Get his book. Get the signed book, too. Why not? Right. Olson, thank you so much.

[01:08:01]>> Very welcome. Thank you.

[01:08:10]>> That was Brad Olsen. And even if a fraction of this is true, Antarctica may be one of the biggest untold stories on Earth. From hidden structures under the ice to unexplained activity and restricted zones, the question isn't just what's down there, it's what we're not being told. If you want to go deeper, check out the aftermath on Patreon. That's where the conversation continues. You folks are awesome. Be amazing, be positive, and stay curious out there, my friends. And I'll see you next time right here on the Ryan Files.