‘It’s becoming routine’: Third assassination attempt on Donald Trump

Added: 2026-05-05

[00:00:00]Well, joining me now is chairman of Republicans Overseas UK, Greg Swinsson.

[00:00:05]Greg, really appreciate you joining me.

[00:00:06]Thank you. So, here we go again. Yet another assassination attempt. What's your reaction to what has happened?

[00:00:15]>> Yeah, it's been a crazy day or 24 hours.

[00:00:18]I'm here in Washington DC. So, I was just out to dinner with with some people that were at the function last night.

[00:00:25]Yeah, I think I think everyone's, you know, a little bit beat up from it. And I think the the most important takeaway from all this is that this is the third attempt. It's starting to be, you know, it's becoming routine, which is which is really, you know, unpleasant to think of. So, but, you know, look, I I think that it it ended up okay. You know, the the Secret Service did their job.

[00:00:51]Everything's worked out. Um thankfully the asalance was not killed so you know there can be u fewer conspiracy theories spun from this and we actually have the you know the the uh assassin in custody.

[00:01:07]So that's a good that's good news. But yeah I think generally speaking people are still a little shaken up today.

[00:01:13]Yeah. And I mean, you know, the word routine that in itself is frightening and that that is and that is the exact problem and and you and I are going to unpack, you know, the the leftist narrative, the derangement that that you know has has led up to these sorts of events. But >> um the word routine is frightening in this in this um context. Um Greg, we've just seen a new photo of the accused gunman, Cole Allen's just been released.

[00:01:39]Here it is. This was after the arrest and an image of uh the shotgun was also released. But let's talk about this 1,000word manifesto that was left by him to family members about 10 minutes before Saturday's attack. I want to unpack it. Um, in it he writes, quote, I would still go through most everyone here to get to the targets if it were absolutely necessary on the basis that most people choose to attend a speech by a pedophile, rapist, and traitor and are thus complicit. But I really hope it doesn't come to that. So, Greg, he had clearly a very false concept of the president. The motivation will obviously be looked at closely. it will form part of an investigation. But I think it's safe to say that he was indeed anti-Trump.

[00:02:29]>> Well, yeah, that's an understatement, but but I think there, you know, there's there's two two considerations here. One is the guy's a lunatic, okay? You know, obviously he's got issues. He fits the profile of other assassins, uh, successful and not and not so successful assassins in that, you know, he's a male, you know, 20 to 35, living alone, you know, has has some issues, likes video games, you know, all of those sort of socially challenged characteristics of an assassin. But I think the other consideration here is that, you know, these these guys are obviously, you know, not well. And yet they're told constantly from the mainstream media here in the US, from the Democrats that the President Trump is evil. President Trump is, you know, anti-semitic. He's racist. He's, you know, the long list.

[00:03:28]He's a Nazi. He's a fascist. He's Hitler. I mean, these things are just constantly, you know, they're constantly out there in the airwaves and and you find these vulnerable, unwell people that are going to act on it. So, he picked up some of these complete, you know, ridiculous um, you know, lies. I'll just say simple word about President Trump. But if you're told it, you know, constantly over the airwaves or over the social media waves, you know, it's it's it's making these people act on their sort of conspiracy theory brains and it's really unsettling.

[00:04:13]>> Absolutely. Because all it takes is one sort of deranged lunatic to see it as a call to arms. when you hear, oh, you know, Trump's a fascist, Trump's Hitler, they they take it as a a a call to arms and they want to take matters into their own hands. We saw this in Pennsylvania.

[00:04:28]We've seen it. That's right.

[00:04:29]>> Every every single time. I think you're absolutely spot on. Um and the other part of the manifesto I just want to show you in it. He also writes, "Ting the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed. I'm not the person raped in a detention camp. I'm not the fisherman executed without trial. I'm not a school kid blown up or a child starved or a teenage girl abused by the many criminals in this administration.

[00:04:52]Turning the other cheek is when someone else is oppressed is not Christian behavior. It is complicity in the oppressor's crimes. So, Greg, you know, uh, deranged, anti-Trump, but also anti-Christian by the looks of it.

[00:05:08]>> Oh, totally. And I mean again, obviously the guy's a lunatic and and has many many issues, but he's been force-fed a lot of this, you know, kind of consistent rhetoric from the left, from, you know, from the Democrats, from the the media here. [clears throat] And so he's actually acting on some of these complete completely ridiculous, you know, speculations about the president.

[00:05:35]And again, you know, he's not well.

[00:05:39]We're, you know, I'm not arguing that every Democrat has has got the same views as this lunatic, but they keep preaching this banter about President Trump. It's it's consistent. It's loud.

[00:05:53]It's it's and it's, you know, untrue and unfair. But that's that's okay in politics. It's okay to criticize your opponents. it's okay for the press to, you know, to criticize a a political opponent or any any public official, but when it gets to the the level of rhetoric that we've had from the Democrats really for for 12 years now, um that's when it becomes really dangerous. And you're getting that from Chuck Schumer, the Senate minority leader. You're getting it from Hakee Jeff. I mean, these people are are feeding the frenzy. And it's really uncool and and and it's really it's just not healthy at all. And and it's it shouldn't be a surprise that some of these lunatics are going to act on it on on this kind of information.

[00:06:43]>> No. And even the likes of, you know, Kla Harris, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, and they've all said the same thing. Hillary Clinton, they repeat the same lines over and over again. Um I want to talk to you about the media's reaction to the shooting. Let's start with CNN because this clip here, this was 30 minutes before the shooting. Have a listen to this rhetoric.

[00:07:05]>> The correspondence association was trying to sort of mend some fences with a guy who wants us dead. Figuratively.

[00:07:13]Figuratively, he wants journalism dead.

[00:07:15]It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I don't think this is a great night for journalism. It's a night that's meant to be celebrating it. But I I think it's a real bummer, isn't it? Yeah. So, there goes that inflammatory language again.

[00:07:25]But have a listen to this. Immediately after the shooting, CNN host Laura Coats blamed it on gun violence.

[00:07:34]>> Let's not forget as well that as you mentioned, Scott, and we've talked about some of the people who became the center who were present in the room, Erica Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk. You have people who are civilians who may or may not have had their own experiences with gun violence in this country. And as we know, gun violence, cease police also there, a victim of gun violence as well. And there there are others who we are um not naming in the moment as well.

[00:07:57]And just to think about the prevalence of gun viol gun violence, gun violence, why are their heads so buried in the sand?

[00:08:08]>> Yeah, they're they're always going to have an automatic default to gun control and gun violence and and you know, it's interesting that they don't like the facts at CNN. And I mean 92% of dome of of violence of of violent crime has nothing to do with guns. It's done without guns. You've got, you know, all the statistics that support the fact that, you know, the these lunatic people are going to do they're they're going to commit crimes no matter what. You know, the the the man who robbed my next door neighbor in Chicago had 18 felony convictions. He did not have a gun when he stole $1,000 from from the the building next door. It it it doesn't matter, you know, whether it's gun violence or any violence. That's why but but again, CNN will always default to that and it it makes no sense. They're um of course they did that and and you know, their comments prior to to the incident last night was typical and and they're saying, you know, we we want you know, he wants them dead. That's obviously not true. She at least said the word figuratively, not literally, but the rhetoric is still there and it's it's typical and and and actually last night was a nice moment for the media to sort of kiss and make up with President Trump. It's uh it's it's really sad that they had to kind of do their best to ruin the moment uh when it when it was meant to be, you know, an actual actually a pleasant function last night.

[00:09:44]Yeah, they always do their best to to ruin the moment because, as you said, it's like a default. They they go back to what they know. It's their comfort zone to just always criticize and demonize and attack. And and even this the coverage of it, I thought was extraordinary. Um CNN said the dinner was quote interrupted. Interrupted. I mean, they may as well have called it a peaceful dinner interruption while they were at it. I mean, seriously. And then look at this. Bloomberg, they called it a security incident. just just your average run-of-the-mill incident, Greg, you know, why >> even after multiple attempts, multiple assassination attempts on Trump's life, it's just u it gets played down. I mean, this isn't just your run-of-the-mill daily episode, you know?

[00:10:30]>> Right. Yeah. They they can't bring themselves to actually say what it what actually happened, right? And and I think if that, you know, the asalent happened to be African-American, if if he had, you know, gone into a shopping mall and killed people, they wouldn't even report it because they don't like to report when people in their favorite their favored groups, their favorite favored identity groups commit a crime.

[00:10:54]Now, this one was just too obvious. They had to admit it. I'm sure they won't say that in in any of their coverage, but but it is it is really sick that they immediately default to it's a gun crime or is a security breach. No, this was a fanatic that's been fueled by Trump derangement syndrome from those people.

[00:11:15]The very people that are reporting on this have fueled this. And I think that's, you know, it's it's fascinating to see how they they try to bury [clears throat] something as a security breach or a security event when it's obviously a person driven by TDS to kill the president. I thought there was a very respectful Democrat, and I can't remember her name, I'm sorry, who came out and and made a comment last night and said, "Stop trying to kill the president. That doesn't help anybody."

[00:11:44]And I think that was, you know, welcome.

[00:11:47]and and you know probably very bipartisan in many respects.

[00:11:51]>> Yeah. I mean we we need more of that sentiment from the Democrats, you know, because again it's it's trying to cool the temperature down so that these leftist lunatics don't take it as a call to arms. Um it was interesting because Donald Trump he in in in the last couple hours he's done an interview with 60 Minutes on political violence in America. Um this particular part of the interview struck me the most. This is what he said. Also at the dinner last night was your secretary, Robert F.

[00:12:17]Kennedy Jr., his sister, Carrie Kennedy, was there. They've both witnessed their father and their uncle be assassinated.

[00:12:26]>> Erica Kirk was there. The House Majority Leader, Steve Scaliz, was there.

[00:12:33]>> Political violence has touched so many people in that room.

[00:12:38]>> Is there something that you as president can do? What can be done to change the trajectory?

[00:12:44]>> You know, you go back 20 years, 40 years, 100 years, 200 years, 500 years. It's always been there. People are assassinated.

[00:12:57]People are injured. People are hurt. And I'm not sure that there's any more now than there was. I do think that the hate speech of the Democrats, much more so, is is very dangerous. I really think it's very dangerous for the country.

[00:13:11]And I mean, we've just spoken about that speech from from multiple uh Democrats over and over again. Uh but what does this say about the temperature in America right now?

[00:13:22]>> Yeah, the temperature is pretty high.

[00:13:24]And and I have to agree with President Trump on on everything he said. And and that's not just because I'm a supporter, but because he's right, you know, okay, 60 years ago JFK was was, you know, was assassinated. um RFK, you know, 55 years ago, and those were difficult times in America, there was a lot of that going on. But it's more recently, the last 5 or 10 years, it is completely one-sided.

[00:13:52]And whenever I hear these CNN types say, "Oh, it's on both sides or political violence on both sides." It's not. Okay?

[00:14:00]Republicans are are very much for the Second Amendment. Uh Republicans have guns to protect their loved ones.

[00:14:07]Democrats have guns to kill people they don't like. And that's unsettling. I know that's probably not fair. And I'm not suggesting that all Democrats are are like that, but that's really how it's worked out. And I think you saw it in the assassination of the the CEO of United United Healthcare um you know, recently. Um and and the the left, the progressive left is celebrating the so-called asalent Luigi, you know, like that's a good thing. And I think that this kind of encouragement is really dangerous. So I think the president made a really good point that the radical language from the progressive left is causing this political violence. And and you can you can run through the list of assassinations of political violence in the last years. It's predominantly radical radicalized progressive left Democrats. also fitting the social profile of lonely men, you know, between, you know, lonely young men with other issues living in their mother's basement and watching, you know, watching too much internet. But generally speaking, it's 100 I wouldn't call it 100%, but most predominantly radical Democrats trying to kill or harm Republicans.

[00:15:33]>> It just is. And it's it's always the tolerant left, you know, that they say that they're the most tolerant and the most forgiving and the best of them all.

[00:15:40]And they are actually the worst. They they they are they are absolutely the worst because have a look at these signs outside of the venue last night. One of them said death to the tyrant. Uh and then there was another one saying death to uh death to all of them. Well, I mean that to me that that's that last one there, death to all of them. That's it's almost like saying death to America.

[00:16:02]It's death death to to to everybody, death to you know that. And that and that and that is problematic to to me, Greg. That that really is problematic that we have this next generation of people who've almost grown up and actually we see it here in Australia.

[00:16:16]They've grown up in a very anti-West sentiment and a very um it's very hateful and I do worry about what that means down the line where people can't settle their disputes at the ballot box.

[00:16:31]We live in a wonderful democracy, you and I, you over there in the States, me over here in Australia, where we can settle our difference at the ballot at the ballot box, but there are people who go down this deranged pathway and and don't want to use the ballot box to exercise their rights.

[00:16:48]>> No, you're absolutely right. And I think it's it's really unsettling and it's really troubling that we have this, you know, sort of surge of violence, political violence here in the US.

[00:16:59]Again, it's fairly one-sided, but I do think that, you know, the president did a good job last night. You know, he was very calm. He he was, you know, very confident. He held a press conference in the in the uh press office at the White House, you know, only a few minutes after the the um occasion was finally cancelled. He he wanted to keep it going. he wanted to continue with the dinner, but finally the Secret Service and the and the security people um convinced him that that that was not the right moment. And so they all, you know, cruised over to the White House and had a and he had a really great press conference. So I I think, you know, the president handled this really well. I I hate to say it, but I think he's kind of used to being, you know, having to experiencing these assassination attempts. I hate to say it, but it's true.

[00:17:50]>> Yeah. He he I mean the fact that he held a press conference so quickly after having to explain to people why he keeps being the target of people wanting to kill him. The man is you know 79 years old and he still delivers in such a calm manner to try and bring people together I think is a credit to his leadership.

[00:18:07]And before I let you go, Gregor, I want to talk to you about the scenes after the shooting because obviously we've got people hiding, people taking shelter, and at the same time, you have got uh guests nabbing bottles of champagne here, taking bottles of wine.

[00:18:24]I mean, I don't know. What do you make of this?

[00:18:27]>> Yeah, I it's it's really kind of sad to see. I think, you know, maybe the idea was, okay, you know, we were supposed to have this, you know, glamorous dinner tonight. I I don't know if they paid for their tickets or they paid for their seats. Maybe it's, you know, grab a roadie. Um, it I guarantee you this, Danica, it was a Democrat Democrat um journalists that were stealing the champagne.

[00:18:53]>> Oh, I I I don't doubt that at all. I you know, they're just um there's no class about them, put it this way. I mean, there was a time and a place for that, but they just yeah, just the same old from from what we believe would be a Democrat jouro. Uh, Greg Swinson, a huge huge 24 hours over in the States. Really appreciate your insights. Uh, really really appreciate you joining me to discuss it all as well. Thank you so much for your time. No, >> thank you. Great to be with you.