Political tribalism occurs when political parties prioritize their own group's interests over national development, as demonstrated by the PNP's opposition to Jamaica's National Reconstruction and Resilience Authority (NaRRA) bill despite its potential to rebuild the country after Hurricane Melissa. This tribal thinking prioritizes 'is it good for my side?' over 'is it good for Jamaica?', which can delay reconstruction, reduce public trust, and harm national progress. True patriotism requires supporting national development even when it benefits the opposing political party.
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>> Yeah. You you know Caroline, there is a massive propaganda.
It seems like the PNP have launched a massive propaganda um against N. You know what is their problem with Nara? It seems as if N is causing a whole heap of problem in Jamaica. Is what happened to the PNP them man?
They know that N is going to wipe them off the map.
They're fighting for their life.
>> Yes. Well, I've been getting messages um that I am I am the lead I am the lead um I'm the lead for the other side in terms of knocking them on n and if I don't if I don't stop what that I am I am leading the I am leading the fight for the Labour party on the on the n bill and if I don't stop they're going to find a way to stop me.
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I turned you up. All right. So the the biggest political story in Jamaica right now is that the government officially passed the the NAR bill was passed in the Senate and it remains controversial not because it is not a good bill but because the PNP seems hellbent on discrediting narrow. It's an unfortunate um state of affair. And I'd like to ask uh the listeners a question up front tonight. Um does Jamaica need faster government delivery?
Does Jamaica need faster government delivery?
And this faster delivery even even if it means giving more power to the executive. You know, last week we we dealt with the whole matter of um social stratification and um classism and the whole matter of colonial the the culture of colonialism that causes us not to trust um each other.
Um is a fascinating time that we're on in Jamaica.
The matter of crime still a national concern.
Despite reported improvements, the government continues to to highlight reductions in major crimes and murders in particular in several police divisions. But uh there is still some concern concern remaining high in Jamaica. Um, Jamaicans are still a little bit uneasy about uh robberies.
There is some amount of gang violence.
The confidence of the public remains mixed and um there is still the political challenge, statistics versus public feeling.
The question is uh do you feel safe? The government is strategically moving from security to peace, creating a peaceful Jamaica. Um, do you personally feel safe in Jamaica? Do you feel safer in Jamaica than um two years ago? That's a question that the neighbors and my listeners could answer. if you feel if you feel safer in Jamaica.
Of course, all across the world, the cost of living remains a political issue. Even with NAR debate dominating parliament, uh, everyday Jamaicans continue talking about food prices, the cost of transportation, the rising electricity bills, and of course, you know, other matters relating to housing. the opposition is likely to focus heavily on the pocketbook politics, you know, pocketbook politics moving forward. I spoke with one of their surrogate today, Paloo Perry, and um my understanding is that the People's National Party is gearing up for the local elections which are due constitutionally uh next year.
Um, of course, Parliament is debating billion dollar projects, but ordinary Jamaicans are counting every dollar at the supermarket. And there's no question that there is a misery index in the country and therefore the government will have to balance its deliverables with the expectations of the people.
Um, political observers are noticing increased partisan messaging especially coming out of the People's National Party and the chairman of the opposition PNP Dr. Angela Brownberg is suggesting that the party is discussing possible or possibly taking sections of the NAR bill to court. So N may end up in court. Mrs. Brown Burke is also suggesting that the supporters of the party are um putting some pressure on the party's hierarchy for street protests. Imagine that street protest and so Nara could be played out on the streets. H imagine it could be played out on the street.
The reconstruction of Jamaica is becoming such a political issue that it could be played out in street protest.
Now I'm I want somebody to buy me a sneakers.
If it ever gets to the street in Jamaica, I will have to join that protest against them. I would have to join. You know I mean if if the PNP touches the street we're going on the street too. You just you just tell them that if they touch the street we're going there too. So it is going to be protest to protest. Any how them go on the street I I neighbor will be on the street. Likewise, as a matter of fact, I lead one of the one of the most massive protests against them this time around.
They never expect it. So, labor rights.
No, no, not not labor, not labor rights. Labor rights. Um, line up yourself because we're going to have to touch the street. Anyhow them protest you just you just make we buy some water and and some bag juice and some patty and we we hit the street same way they can't beat you know can't beat all right so um Mrs. Brownberg and and comrades test week test for no bad test for no bad with no protest in Jamaica. No protest no protest.
Um so there there are more parliamentary aggressiveness. The aggression in the parliament is a is a is a sign. There is increased social media campaigning. The bloggers are out.
Yes, the vloggers and bloggers are out.
I don't know what to call them.
Um, with governance and accountability becoming key themes and the parties are positioning themselves around recovery and e economic management.
Um, the fact of the matter is that if if are you expecting the local elections?
Are you are you expecting them and do you plan to participate in in that? The the prime minister continues to frame NAR as a once in a generation opportunity to modernize Jamaica and accelerate infrastructure projects.
That's um Prime Minister Andrew Holes um promising that faster roads yes will will will will come about. The prime minister of course is you know um going to be the minister responsible for the n execution and as a result of that one see that he is coming under increased attacks. Here is the prime minister um answering a question.
>> There seems >> in the parliament >> uh concern about centralization is the term used that n seems to centralize uh power and authority in sometimes the criticism is centralizes it in the CEO or centralizes it in the minister.
In the executive model, it is a deliberate strategy. The the whole idea was that the diffusion of the responsibility is what caused the lack of performance because you can't point at anyone to say you are responsible.
And so when Dr. Davies, Dr. and Davies um crafted it. The rational was to ensure that responsibility is not diffused that there is one focal point for which accountability can be effective. That was the idea. And I would want Jamaicans to appreciate that your government is very sensitive to any concentration, any centralization that may lead to unregulated, unwieldy executive power. That's not our intention.
But at the same time, Jamaica is in a different phase of its development.
And we can claim to be in a different phase of our development because we have gone through a phase of our development where we haven't really analyzed it yet in the sense madam speaker that our accountability our anti-corruption and oversight framework is probably the most robust in the Caribbean.
We spend billions of dollars when you look at so if you if you look at our over okay so um one of the point points that the opposition is um strong on is the whole matter of accountability. We had the prime minister there um outlining that. Uh we could get back to that later on, but the opposition is suggesting that development without accountability can become dangerous.
Anyway, um the political temperature is turned up. Um, the NAR bill officially cleared the Senate and the government says it's the key to rebuilding Jamaica's Jamaica faster after Hurricane Melissa. Uh, the critics says it hands too much power to the executive. So that's what the prime minister was answering there. So this evening we we are asking um what are we willing to to sacrifice um for speed the speed of our development? What it is that we are willing to sacrifice. But those are some of the discussions that we will have on the program later on. Let's now hop over to the pages of the notes.
And tonight we want to spend a little time talking to you about tribe or country. Tribe or country. Um, I may do this in a two-part series because I want to look at the whole matter of tribalism versus patriotism and how n comes into that.
For the next couple of weeks, n is going to be um on our lips. I actually went on the road today to gauge the public's view on NAR.
Um I'll share those with you in the coming days. What is what are the people of Jamaica saying about NAR? At least those persons who I have spoken to. One thing I'll say is that public education and onara need to be improved because when you talk to Jamaicans about n uh many of them are still in the dark as to what n means. As a matter of fact, it is quite embarrassing to play some of the vox pop about n as far as the public is concerned. It's a very civic illiterate community and that is something that ought to concern all of us. Please stop >> asking everyone to repost the live please.
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All right. So, why did the PNP vote no on the NR bill?
Let me tell you what propaganda sounds like.
It sounds like a no, a no vote in the lower house, a no vote in the upper house.
Then surrogates appear on every station.
They're all over the place.
There are threats of court action, threats of street protests.
All of a sudden, there are 28 civil society groups concerned I hear that even there are even groups affiliated with the church concerned all aimed at one thing n the national reconstruction and resilient authority bill.
So I ask you tonight listeners, I ask you tonight YouTubers, what about N has the PNP launching a massive propaganda campaign like I have never seen? What about now?
What N seeks to do is this. And this is not spin. These are facts.
One, Nara seeks to rebuild Jamaica fast.
Hurricane Melissa wiped out 56% of the country's gross domestic product.
56% not in 25 years over over one night.
N seeks to be rebuild Jamaica fast.
Secondly, NAR seeks to centralize reconstruction so we don't have 15 agencies tripping over each other while people sleep in shelters. I see um Dwayne Vase over there in in Eastern West M well central West M talking about um people people been thrown out of shelters and government was not prepared to to to to take the people out of shelters. N corrects that Mr. Vase but you voted no. So you would by the way have some of these members of parliament read the bill? I don't know. Have they read the bill?
The third thing that NAR seeks to do is inject growth.
Inject growth in an economy that's been flat for decades.
the opposition leader Mark Holding own put up a post that said Jamaica needs structural shift to deliver high levels of growth.
That's what Mr. Golding said. Mark Mark Golding said that you know Mark Golding said that Jamaica uh needs structural shift to deliver high levels of growth.
Well, Mr. Golden N is that shift.
So if N does positive things for the government and for the country, why block it?
If NAR does positive things for the country and for the government, why did you block it?
Could this really be an objection to something in the bill?
Could it really be that there is something in the bill that they are objecting to and what it is?
They say checks and balances.
They say blank check.
Peter Bunting said without God rails.
But let me ask you something.
If you truly object to parts of a bill, you amend it.
You don't kill it.
You don't vote no twice.
You don't send surrogates to poison the well.
You don't threaten court and street action.
Unless the goal isn't to fix the bill.
Unless the goal is to is to kill the bill or is there something the people of Jamaica are missing? Are we missing something?
Let's let's let's talk about if there are parts of the bill that you object to, you don't kill it.
You don't vote no on the whole bill.
You don't send your surrogates to to poison the well and you don't threaten court action and street and street protest.
Is there something the people of Jamaica are missing in YouTube? Is there something that the people of Jamaica are missing?
And I will tell you what it is.
I'll tell you what it is.
You are missing the oldest play in politics.
If my tribe can't take credit, no tribe gets to build.
That's it.
It is a tribal vote.
What you are witnessing in Jamaica is political tribalism wrapped up as principle.
They are hypocrites.
Raw hypocrites.
because that's not oversight.
This is partisan strategy because a government that rebuilds fast and delivers houses before the next election that gets the GDP moving.
That's a government that wins.
And if you are in opposition, you can't have that.
So you'll call it dangerous.
You'll find civil society groups to come out and support you. You file court action. You march not because n hurts Jamaica because n helps Jamaica under their watch.
Is there one listener listening to me tonight that feels that n hurts Jamaica?
Is there one person in the audience?
Raise your hand or forever hold your peace.
That's the oxymoron. The oxymoron tonight.
destructive opposition.
It's oxymoronic.
You say you love country, but you oppose country rebuilding.
You say you fight for people, but you fight the bill that houses people.
It's an oxymoron.
If the PNP tabled n in 2020 or in 20 uh 2016, would they vote no today?
If the answer is no, then it isn't principle. It is propaganda.
It is propaganda.
And let me tell you something.
Court action won't put on any roof.
Street protest won't pour concrete.
Surrogates like Perry and Caution and Andre. I see Andre Stevens losing his mind.
What a what a man.
What a man, Mr. Andre Stevens.
You know, you know, um it does say something about the PNP, you know, when a man like Andre Stevenson Stevens gets pride of place in the party, the the opposition leader is promise promising to to give Andre Stevens a seat in the Senate. Imagine that. No, no, not a seat in the senator. A national award, Andre Stevens.
That's the company that the the PNP associate with. I don't have anything against Mr. Stevens, but Mr. Mr. Stevens is nothing but a propagandist.
No. And and what a way rude is what them do is what them doing is what the Labour party do to him. Don't Mr. Stevens why why stay so what a man bitter you can see the bitterness coming out of him coming out of nose coming from all about him. Oh god man.
Somebody need to give that man give a bath.
You need a bath, man. Hey. Hey, there's Mr. Stevens. Oh, come on, man. Come on.
Give a bath.
So when you see the campaign, when you hear the sorrow gets losing their minds, flipping and flopping when civil society suddenly wakes up. I didn't know that there were 28 civil society groups in Jamaica until until Nara. I never knew it.
All of a sudden, civil society has woken up. Know say civil society Jamaica have 28 civil societ this is this a country this a country Jamaica always a keep. You know Jamaica always a keep 28 civil society groups all of a sudden you know I found their voices including the church and I don't criticize the church I am a part of the church but I can tell you something. Listen to me. Let us let us be careful here. Let us be careful.
There there's a good reason why they why they um they they they separate the church and the state. Very good reason.
Let us continue to preach the gospel.
Tell people about Jesus Christ. Yes.
And um people say, "Well, why do you come up here and do this? I come up here and tell people the truth." But this country needs truth tellers.
Let me look to my Tik Tok people here.
I'm coming back to your YouTube. This country needs truth truth tellers. There are too many damn liars in this place.
Too many liars.
Too many people who are prepared to sell themselves to sell them soul for a morsel.
And let me let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something.
My listeners here on Tik Tok, my listeners here on YouTube, we ask for your contributions to keep our program going to pay our bills.
Yes, we have two sets of internet running this program. Several pieces of equipment. We put in we invest a number of time we don't get a salary from any any political party any business and nowhere. So if I come up here and I ask you the listeners to support the work we do I don't make any apology for it.
I don't make any apology for it because so long as this voice is on this space, nobody is going to tell me what to say. Nobody.
And any day, any day my voice is a paid for voice cuz I don't have to be here, you know.
Mind you, you think I have to I have to be up here.
any day that my voice becomes a paid for and I want my listeners to know that too. I'm never going to be muzzled. No one at all.
There's no power that can muzzle me. I am here to tell you what is truth and if you have a problem with it, don't listen. Go somewhere else.
And what you cannot come up here and tell me is that what I am saying is not true.
You can't do that.
I challenge anybody to come up here and tell me where have I come on this program and told a lie.
I have a reputation to protect. I have a conscience to protect. And I'm not going to lie to you.
My truth does not align with some of your views.
It doesn't mean it's not truth.
My truth are the truth that the Jamaican people deserve to hear because there are too many voices in this country. Too many voices in this country that are prepared to sacrifice themselves on the altar of political for political favors. I don't want no political favors from anybody at all.
I give myself to my listeners and it is to the extent that they support me and the network we keep going. We are open for anybody, anyone who wants to sponsor, who wants to contribute, you can, but we ain't taking any bribes, no under the table, nothing.
straight up.
And when you speak the truth, people talk about bias.
You know my views on bias and balance.
You I I those are nonsense. That's are rubbish. You you speak you speak to your people and you tell them the truth.
This country needs more truth tellers.
There are too many people in media, in business, in church and in civil society groups. They are proxies proxies for the people's national party.
And that is why Jamaica after 63 years of independence has a GDP per per capita of eight uh eight simply $8,000 compared to Singapore that is 80 $88,000.
And a lot of these proxies living good lives, driving good cars, living good homes, and when they are sick, they can take a um um an airplane and go to go to Miami.
And the people who they are brainwash washing have to line up at the hospitals.
They're all right.
If the thing builds Jamaica, why block it?
I see you. I see you. Winston 18 minutes to 9:00.
But I'm not done yet.
I'm not done yet.
Tonight we want to talk about tribalism.
My moderator Caroline sent me this piece of information. So I share it with you. All I have done is refined it for you. Caroline, these are your thoughts. You have to go pay me.
She's a bright woman. You know, my moderator Caroline, very, very brilliant, brilliant woman.
I want to tell you a little bit about tribalism.
Not the tribalism of 1,000 years ago.
They had spears and borders.
I mean modern tribalism.
The kind that wears a suit. Tribalism dressed up in suit.
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$200 Caroline tribalism dressed up in jackets and tithe sitting in parliament and vote votes no while your roof is still troping.
Tribalism you see is humanity's oldest software.
It is the oldest software of humanity.
It keeps us alive when we lived in caves.
My clan, right or wrong, meant protection.
My clan, right or wrong, meant survival, food.
But a society cannot grow if it never updates that software.
This would this should this this should make all of you take out your cur chief and start bow because it tells you that your country is in very serious trouble. What I'm speaking to you about is a thousand years of history.
A thousand years of history.
let go on your parliament last week. Let me tell you something guys. You them talk about street protest. We should all we a wy protest a whiffy protest and we should have protest this.
And let me tell you this because Rome didn't fall because of the barbarians. You know you know the barbarians in Rome. How much how much of history do you know?
Rome fell when the Romans decided that they were going to make a choice between the popular and the optimates.
Those two tribes, the popular and the optimates that those tribes mattered more than being a Roman citizen.
When the tribe inside the nation became more important than the nation itself, the nation is failing.
And I'm telling you this, Jamaica, that what you witness in parliament is a failure of your of your of your your country.
You know, I want to back that up and I want to and I want to tell you it again, you know, because I don't want you to miss it.
The Romans, powerful country, powerful nation, when they decided that the tribes inside the nation became more important than the nation itself.
The nation is falling apart. Right now in Jamaica, there is only one political party, one There is a tribe and there is a political party.
Now the comrade is not going to like that but it is a fact.
The Jamaica Labor Party is a political movement.
The People's National Party is not.
It is a tribe.
and their former leader spoke of the fight for scarce benefit and political spoils creating hostile tribes that are perpetually at war.
Well, the Labour Party has moved on from that. It is no longer a tribe. It is a political movement grounded in a in an ideology in a philosophical um um architecture.
The PNP has deepened themselves as a tribe.
And you know Jamaica Jamaica knows this story. together.
1960 to 1980, West Kingston vers versus um South St. Andrew, orange versus green was never about policy.
It was about belonging.
Your tribe fed you.
Your tribe protected you.
Your tribe told you who to vote for.
Your tribe told you who to hate.
And while we were loyal to colors, the country bled.
Gangs and guns flooded into the country.
Communities were garrisoned.
GDP flatlined for decades.
That's the cost of tribalism.
Tribalism trades long-term nation building for short-term group survival.
It is the survival of the group.
Why parties choose tribes over country?
Because tribalism works.
It's easy.
Country is complex.
Jamaica is 2.8 million people. You never you never meet all of the people in Jamaica, but you're a labor right or you're a comrade. That's that's a family. That that's identity.
And let me tell you that parties practice tribalism for three reasons.
Three reasons. One, power. two accountability shield and three survival.
Three reasons power accountability shield survival.
A tribe is easier to mobilize than a nation.
fear of the other side gets votes faster than a 20-year development plan.
If my tribe does it, it's a strategy.
If your tribe does it, it's corruption.
The rules change based on the jersey.
What you seen in parliament have nothing to do with no principle. You know guys, it don't have not a damn thing to do with principle. There is nothing there and nothing is the color of the jersey.
The only predominant factor in this is that the jersey of the proponents of Nar green. That's it.
If it were if if it was an orange jersey, they would have voted yes. the same people that voted no would have voted yes.
It's it's it's it's 101. It's philosophy 101.
You know, um philosopher um Plato.
Plato, you see, Plato warned the republic, the republic that when loyalty to fraction exceeds loyalty to the polls or the police, the police dies.
Let's interpret that and place country where police is. When loyalty to fraction exceeds loyalty to your country, the country dies.
We are not Jamaica. Listen to me carefully.
We are not Jamaica the nation.
We are Jamaica the tribe PNP and the party JLP.
That's a definition of where we are today.
And tribes don't build.
Tribes raid.
You hear what I tell you? Tribes no bill nothing.
Tribes raid.
One bill, one raid.
Could spend 10 minutes on that, but I think you get the point.
If you are a student of psychology or philosophy or maybe you're a student of political science, n is a very good case study case study because the hurricane wiped out 56% of 56% of the country's GDP.
uh whole towns are wiped out are in rubble. The the nar was tabled to rebuild fast.
The PNP said no.
Now listen carefully. My my neighbor rights friends listen carefully.
They say it's about checks and balances.
They say it's fighting for Jamaicans.
That is what the um the the um chairman of the People's National Party, Angela Brownberg, uh said that the the PNP is fighting for Jamaicans.
Well, let me ask let me ask you to judge a tree by its fruits, not its labor.
You don't judge a tree by its labor.
You judge it by its fruits. By the fruits, you shall know them.
Don't only listen to what a man says, look at what he does.
If an act helps the tribe but hurts the nation and you choose it anyway, that is the definition of tribalism because a no vote on reconstruction after a category 5 hurricane cannot be patriotic.
Now, we're not going to get to patriotism tonight cuz it's going to be too lengthy.
It cannot be patriotic.
And so, if you are not a patriot, you are a tribalist.
Every member of parliament that went down to the parliament and voted no, you are not a patriot.
You are a tribalist.
Even if you didn't realize that you are, you are or you were, you are.
You should have shame on yourself.
Some of you members of parliament don't tribalism.
You cannot say I love Jamaica while voting to delay the rebuilding of Jamaica.
That's is a contradiction in action.
It's not an oxymoron. It's not an oxymoron.
It's a hypocrisy.
Selfless obstruction.
That's the oxymoron.
You don't obstruct the country's recovery selflessly.
You do it to score points to deny the other tribe or the other party a win to say if if we take credit no one rebuilds. That is not governance.
That is delletterious.
It is a delletterious. It is delletterious to growth because it kills trust.
investors they watch parliament and and when relief becomes political football the money stays away.
It normalizes sabotage.
If no is the default to everything the other side proposes, then nothing gets built and it punishes the people to punish the party.
The roof is leaking in St. Thomas in West Malone and some of those people do not have a party card, you know.
And no vote keeps their roof leaking.
Neighbor rights, listeners, patriotism means you vote. Yes.
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Patriotism means you vote yes and then fight like hell to add the safeguards.
You don't burn the whole house down because you don't like the contract. Mm- tribalism means you'd rather Jamaica stay broken than let the other side fix it.
So when I look at N when I look at the N's no vote in light of Hurricane Melissa, in light of mothers in shelters, in light of another hurricane season coming upon us, I can only call it one thing.
It's not oversight.
It's not principle.
It's tribalism.
plain, raw, and destructive.
And Jamaica, our Jamaica cannot afford it anymore.
Away with tribalism.
Away with tribalism. THE TRIBE OF THE PNP don't want them anymore.
Jamaica should shut them out unless they change.
We should have nothing to do with the comrades because they are not for Jamaica.
You should be accountable to country before party.
Be a patriot before a partisan. And tonight ask yourself who in parliament voted for you.
Mr. Mr. Mr. Stevens over there run up in mouth. Who in parliament voted for you?
Who in parliament voted for you?
And who voted for their tribe? One set of people voted for the people. The other set voted for their tribe.
And it's a pity. It is a pity that we can't divide Jamaica in a two and give it try. Give that tribe for them peace and say stay over there and you would have see how them how them selfdestruct and those who are patriotic you would have see how them build because tribes don't build nothing them break down tribe only come the Bible tell you the thief commit not but to kill to steal and to destroy but I I am come that you may have what? Life.
Life and have it more abundantly. Tribes not no build nothing. Tribes not carry nothing. Come to the table. Tribes come to rob, kill, steal and destroy.
And that is what you saw in the parliament.
Patriot patriots and tribalists.
Now you will have anything to do with the tribe. The tribes run them way.
Run them way.
Don't mean you're no good.
Before I close, tonight we put a man on the stand, not in the court of law, but in the court of accountability.
I shared with some folks on Sunday on this whole matter of accountability.
It's humanity's greatest challenge to be accountable.
I see Mr. Golden singing singing songs on Mother's Day.
Loser for you, Mr. Golden. Loser for you.
I think Mr. Golden would be better as a singer than a politician.
And you know for Mr. holding to to be leading this tribe.
I like to try to have Jefferson Golden singing. She's royal, >> you know. I think Mr. Golden Mr. Golden would do better as a as a as a um what they call it um as a singer than a politician. He's a terrible He's terrible at it.
I want to put Mr. Golding on the stand of accountability.
Martin Jefferson, come to the front of the class.
Mark Golden opposition leader.
Is he a Casey?
He's a man who is a leader of the tribe.
I could tell you about tribal leaders tonight, but it is it is um it is going to be a little too heavy for you tribal leaders.
And what is fascinating is that Mr. Golden is not does not identify with the tribe he leads.
Mr. Golden Mark is of British descent.
Whether he was born in the United Kingdom or not is of no relevance to me personally. I don't business with that.
Well, not for this discussion.
I will take that up at another time. But Mr. Golden is leading a Jamaican tribe and he is not even identifying with the tribe. It tells you something about the people who he leads.
Fascinating. You know, people like Dayton Campbell, a black man.
Peter Bontin, a black man.
Nikisha Burchell, a black woman.
Angela Brownberg, a black woman.
Dr. Doors, black man. When you look over on the PNP PNP side, you don't see no white white somebody over there.
All blacks and the leader of their tribe is a man who according to Mr. Warington is a descendant of slave masters.
What a fascinating time we are living in Jamaica.
What a fascinating story.
You know, Mr. Golden posted himself at 11:10 a.m. on April 22nd, 2026.
Quote, Nara is quoting Mr. Golden a revamped attempt to inject higher levels of growth.
That's what Golden Post, the leader of the PNP clan, the leader of the PNP tribe.
If the people in the party had any selfrespect, they would go reverse the vote.
They don't know their history.
They have no respect for history.
Oh, I tell you. Oh, man. I feel this.
Oh, if ever there was a moment of shame on black man party, PJ Patterson told an audience in um in Christina that if he came down off the platform and walked among the people, they wouldn't know the difference. And he was right.
Black man party is been led by a man who is yet to prove whether he is truly a Jamaican and the PNP followed him and voted no. What a betrayal of your people. What a betrayal of your people. And then I heard Miss Angela Brownberg talking about being a descendant of Nani.
Angela, you think Nanny would have gone to the colonial parliament and voted no?
You don't know history, Miss Miss Angela Brunberg. Shut up.
That's why can only get uno can only get Andre Stevens to speak for as they only they are only full of emotions not intellect not intellect they speak out of emotions they are trying to get a forward I ain't I ain't trying to get no forward Lord, safe in my space, confident in my ability, inspired to do this.
Don't even have to look on the screen. I can come here and speak into this microphone.
You don't know history.
You are a descendant of Nanny and you go down to parliament to vote against your black people in your constituency led by a man who had to go on a debate stage to prove to take out a piece of paper to show the country whether or not he was born in Jamaica.
What a betrayal of your people. All of you, 27 of you over there.
had if this country was was one where there was better um education and selfrespect not one seed to no win Jamaica could almost becomes become an autocratic country because the PNP would have been would have been banished for life for this. It is a most distasteful thing that you have done. And to think that you are all talking about um um taking to taking to court. Take take what to court. Take what to court and street protest. Let me tell you this.
Let me tell you guys this. You're not in the majority.
Your tribe is not in the majority.
And and and if and let me tell you this so that you know, okay?
The tribe you have does not include the Jamaica Defense Force and the Jamaica Constabularary Force. And any resistance put up in Jamaica will be thoroughly suppressed.
Thoroughly suppressed.
You learn that cuz we will not see. You're not in the majority. There 200 there are 2.8 million of us and 401,000 voted for you. That's your tribe.
And some of them you paid the the malignant influence of money was used to get them on your side. They are not true comrades.
2.5 million of us want n. You hear me tell you that?
And Nara is going to go forward in a Jamaica.
No matter what do no matter where come that tribe will be silenced stopped.
It will be stopped and the ascendancy going ascendancy here.
Learn that. Well, you here and you're sending threats sending threats to me.
You're sending threats to me.
Well, a man can only die once. You know, I can tell you this. I'm not afraid of death. I am not afraid of death.
I am not. For to to to live is Christ and to die is gain.
And we all have to die one day. Okay? If you think it's if you think it's a joke, I have been in many morgs and I've been to many funerals.
I don't see nobody live forever.
So, I have to do the work that I have been appointed to do. And let me let me let me just let me just let me just make this clear.
Let me just make this clear.
If God be for you, who can be against you?
Okay. So, nobody can't move me before my time come. I am a I am a believer in predestination.
That is me. I believe that you your your birth date is set and I believe also that your death date is also set by divine providence.
And as David declared in the Psalms, yeah, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for thou art with me.
Come back here.
I ask you neighbors, do we place trust and power in the hands of a man who thinks like Marold.
Follow me carefully.
For Golden is a tribalist.
I have a little problem with the Labor Party, you know, but I don't want to expose it here cuz they tend to be quiet when they must speak.
You have to connect things.
Golden is a tribalist and the PNP themselves are blind.
What golden le is tribal thinking and tribal thinking is dangerous thinking. Hear me carefully.
What is tribal thinking?
What is tribal thinking?
Tribal thinking is when the first question isn't is it good for Jamaica.
Tribal thinking is is it good for my side?
Is it good for my side?
Tribal thinking says if the JLP tables it, it must be corrupt.
If we can't control it, it must be stopped.
Golden is a man who wants control.
That thinking is independent of the Jamaican reality.
It is part of the vestage of colonialism.
If they get the win, we lose. Even if Jamaica wins too.
Golden is a tribal man and his thinking must be stopped.
Holding must be stopped.
>> Asking everyone to repost the live please and please continue to tap and share and keep the comment section active. Thank you.
2,400 years ago. You see, 2,400 years ago, you know, the stone age did not end because we ran out of stones.
We found new ways of doing things.
There have been revolutions in history and we can learn from that. Human life we have existed for thousands of years.
2,400 years ago, Plato told us that the city fails when men love their fraction more than their city.
The city fails when men love their fractions more than their city.
100 years ago, Marcus Garvey told us up you mighty race.
You hear what I tell you? Plato 2,400 years ago spoke about the city failing when when the fracture the the the clans the tribes are placed ahead of the society.
Golden is a failure.
And Jamaica must reject failed systems and failed personalities.
We must break free from this type of thinking.
Marcus Garby did not say up you mighty party.
Marcus Garby said up you mighty race.
People of Jamaica, take off the orange shirt.
You know, I get the feeling that the the comrades are blind that they need the scales to be removed from their eyes.
I don't think they understand the path that they are being led down.
And you know, you see money, you see money, see money.
You know, too poor, you know.
you know too poor.
I will leave it at that.
My go is a brilliant man you know head of a law firm.
He understands checks and and balances and fiduciary duty better than than most of his colleagues.
So when Mark Holden leads a no vote on reconstruction after Hurricane Melissa, we have to ask why. Why?
You cannot you cannot claim to fight for Jamaicans while voting to delay the rebuilding of Jamaicans, Jamaican homes.
That's not principle. That's that's position. That's clandiststein positioning.
Selfless obstruction.
Um, it's 26 after after um um 8:00 and I believe that I want to wrap this up and go to my um my my my colleagues.
Um, the tribe is profitable.
The country is expensive.
Tribes give you applause today.
Country might not thank you for the next 20 years.
Mar Golden had a choice.
Amend NA. You're a lawyer.
Strengthen NA.
Put your legal brain to work and make it bulletproof.
Pick up your phone and call the prime minister. Write a letter to the prime minister. Instead, he led this strife to kill it. So I ask you listeners, do we place trust and power in the hands of such a man?
Because leadership is not about saying no, you know, it's about knowing when yes builds a nation.
You don't build a you don't build a a country with press releases. You don't build it with votes.
And on April 22nd, the tribe led by Mark Boling voted, "We will not rebuild the country.
We will build our party." That's not oversight.
That's not patriotism.
That's tribalism in a silk suit.
And Jamaica cannot survive another 50 years of tribe over country.
Um, that's that's what I'm that's where I'm going to leave it for tonight. Um, thank you. Thank you, Caroline. Thank you for your your your your help with um with our our our our notes tonight. Thank you so much. Let's let's um let's head over to the to the to the calls um 29 after 8:00 and then we will check out at at 10. Um, who who do we have? Um, first >> we got Carlen Adam.
>> Okay, I think she's she's she's loading.
Hello. Hello. Hello, Carlen.
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Hello.
>> Uh yes, Labour. We have protecting um we're not able to see the screen well because of >> Okay, let me let me let me um let me um let me adjust adjust adjust um let me see if I can adjust what I have here.
Okay, hold on.
Um it's important that I I adjust um that. Let me adjust that. All right. Let us come here, sir. And we come right here and we should be okay now. All right. Great. There we go.
>> Even neighbor. Good evening.
>> Hey. Hey. Hey, Protect. How are you, man?
>> I am all right. Neighbor. How are you?
>> I'm fine. I'm fine. Protecting.
Protecting Jamaica. um the the description of the political parties in Jamaica as one being a political movement with a philosophy and an ideology that is all encompassing a broadening of the tent is a positive coming from tribes.
however protecting Jamaica. Am I not correct if I um if I suggest that the PNP under Golden have deepened the philosophy of tribes and if you look at the Nar vote isn't that what you see one party being patriot patriot patriotic the other being a set of tribes and a be part of that question protecting because I know you be lengthy as you go into the history. Imagine imagine that tribe being led by a man with with not much identity in Jamaica and is still to prove whether or not he is even a Jamaican. Imagine the party succumbing to that type of leadership and voting against their people.
Yes, he's >> Yeah, neighbor.
>> Yes.
>> Good night again, listeners. Miss Caroline, good night.
Um you see I believe in a neighbor that even though we skirt around the issues sometimes as Jamaicans literally we are being forced to have the kind of conversation that I have been having for the past many years.
>> Uhhuh.
Now let me start here with the first part of the question I ask.
There is a allout political war in Jamaica right now neighbor.
>> Yes.
>> And but it's not just a war of ideologies and you know the usual whether it be violence or you know the ideology mainstream. It is a war of worthlessness against progress and ambition.
>> Worthlessness.
>> Yes.
Now there is no difference really of such with Mark Golding at the head of the PMP. Now what is happening with Mark Holing at the head of the PP because of his lack of political experience is that what used to be a subtle underbelly, a subtle um mission under on the ground is now brought to the surface. It's now highlighted >> because the PMP is being managed by people who don't have the political experience.
So what we're seeing happening in the Jamaican society now with a Jamaica Labor Party in its full resurgence, and I'm I'm I'm talking about the structure of the Jamaica Labor Party from the 1940s, the 1960s, the 1980s to now is the same.
The Jamaica Labor Party has always been about the development of Jamaica, the advancement of Jamaica and Jamaicans, the improvement of the society and its system so that they work in favor on behalf of its people.
It is the same Jamaica Labor Party today.
>> Yes. the PMP >> you you you are you are you you are saying that the the Jamaica Labor Party has not really changed from its philosophical underpinnings the architecture of the party has remained basically constant with some slight movements here and there based on the leader >> basically the modernization because the philosophical foundation which underpins the Jamaica Labor Party remains it is just we're in a different era. We refer to it as a modern era.
And so the tweaking is just kind of cosmetic, you know, just to get the party a little bit more lookable to the Gen Z's and, you know, the young people who, you know, like a more modern approach. But the very foundation of the party that establishes the party and its beliefs, they are the same. Now it is now a situation where you can see clearly the differences of both party. You can see that the Jamaica Labor Party is all about the development and the advancement of Jamaica and you can see that the People's National Party is the hold down group of people.
>> The question is is the question is um protecting um hold your thought. Do do you think that the the the general members of the party including the members of parliament are aware of this?
>> Yes ma'am.
>> They are aware.
>> Yes ma'am.
You you are telling you you're telling me sir that these people have come together with golden to to to to to be on a destructive path not all of them you know because there are real problems in the >> people are within the party right now crying out for the leadership to take a different direction.
>> I suspect so.
>> Yes, it is not that they are really just following blindly. But but the People's National Party holds true to its system of operation where you really sidestep or overstep the leader. The leader and the leadership is the leader and the leadership. So you fall in line.
>> Yes.
>> But we are There's this situation that is boiling up now in the PMP. It's like a pressure cooker kind of situation where lead bus and it is going to be very very very rocky over there. the leader go bus because there is a good fraction of the party who does not believe that they have the backing of the majority of even their very um supporters with this kind of nonsense and nastiness and foolishness that they this road that they're going down.
They're not backing them and they know it. But Mark Golden really don't know anything more. Him not understand anything else. He don't have the political experience. Neither does he have the capital. And he knows that his time is running out. The challenges are going to come over the next three years.
And so they're nervous because of the lack of political experience. So they think in the leadership that it makes sense to continue to ponder to the foundation supporters of the party the base because the the challenges are coming neighbor the challenge them are come so I think that there especially Mark holding is caught between a rock and a hard place and we know already that he's not a leader so he does not know how to be flexible. He does not know how to be nimble. He never practice that in this kind of for this kind of situation. So, he's not prepared. And what we're going to see is sort of an unraveling before there um is a period of kind of coming back together. I am hoping that this unraveling starts in another two and a half, three, three and a half years. I hope that my gold continue to hold out until then. But the next part of the conversation now neighbor that I really love to talk about.
>> Yes, >> I don't tic like when we really touch that topic, but I think I have learned over the period to tow the line on the issues the leadership of the party through none other than Angela Brownberg drew on our national heroes.
>> Yes. in her defiance against what she did in the parliament. because it is her just in case some people forgot that you know as she calls where she calls upon herself in the parliament and it was it was a I mean me laugh me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me put put on a big laugh when she threw on the the the the national heroes because it is proven that the man where she have a leader party.
The him family owned over 130 slaves in a Jamaica for him grandfather.
It is proven that Mark didn't get a bounce to set up in business and set up himself from the wealth that was amassed from his grandfather and great grandfather owning slaves in a Jamaica. Uhhuh.
Now, may I wonder if the PMP are hoping that we really don't have this kind of conversation on a national level so that they can tiptoe around the very elephant in the room and try to reposition themselves as some vanguards of virtue or whatever it is they are proposing to do.
Neighbor I am uncomfortable >> boy. Yes, >> I am uncomfortable neighbor. I am uncomfortable.
Me love watch parliament in years. I used to go to the parliament when I worked in the public service and now nowadays for the past many years I watch the parliament every Tuesday. Me uncomfortable when see this big lump of excretion s me uncomfortable very uncomfortable. this big lump of nothing parliament comfortable and I don't think >> I don't think the PMP are very comfortable either but them know them have to work with it and so this whole situation we have today neighbor it is what the PMP used to walk door to door and teach covertly They literally teach their people to be worthless to be dependent on the system.
It is now being brought to the surface and because of the inexperience of Mark Bowling, we notice Mark Golding nationalized everything.
He nationalized the last local government election.
nationalize every issue and what they are doing now them nationalize worthlessness.
Chuck Finley said something a few weeks back or a few months back that if you go to one of the hurricane ravaged areas neighbor listeners you're going to see two sets of people you see one man a search try put back in stop and you see one another man sit down hang down head and I look down the road to see who come and every word come out my mouth is They wait on the big man and wait on some help. The man moving around trying to find zinc to put back in house is the labor right and the man sit down and wait on the big man to come give him a thing and go help him is the PMP.
And when Chuck Finley said it, it hit deep neighbor and listeners because it is so very true.
Now the people's national party know that them train these people to be workless.
So when you hear them publicly nationally on their bullhorn echoing whatever sentiments this they echoes they know the audience that they have already prepared out there to receive the kind of messaging that they sending.
Angela Brownberg I must say a day ago about 24 hour or 26 hour ago say on um on a podcast that the PMP supporters are expecting them to hit the street. What are they going to hit the street about?
>> Uh well I I I've been asking that question >> but I wouldn't mind you know you know protecting I I wouldn't mind it come to that you know.
>> Yes sir. I want I want them to hit the streets up because I know them want hit streets.
>> Yeah.
>> Because hold on hold on for a second. I I I I think I think the people of Jamaica are waiting for them on the street. You know, you know they are in the minority hit with street over sir >> labor.
I am I am still as you know my position already and I am still waiting for the government to roll out its public education campaign. I am waiting >> you are right sir because I I actually I actually um when I started earlier >> even neighbor Good evening >> good evening Mr. start just give me a second when I started earlier protecting um said how disappointed I was uh and I'm going to bring it to the to the listeners view that when you go on the street and you ask people about N the they the it's not very impressive sir it's not very impressive and I think by now the bill having passed both houses of parliament there is still inadequate information out there and it is it is within that vacuum um protecting that the PNP thrives.
>> It is within that vacuum that they usually grow some strength >> and and that's where and that's where the tribes and that's what and that's where the the tribes protected find their currency in ignorance.
Labor.
Remember before the debate started, I said to you and the listeners, if the JLP does not run concurrently with the debates, a public education campaign, a robust one, they are going to be found wanting when this whole thing is done. Now there are still many questions left to be answered by the regular citizens.
>> Yes.
>> And the PMP ALREADY DID WHAT they had set out to do because for them people listen to them.
>> Yes.
>> Them four them 325,000 people listen TO THEM.
>> BUT BUT LET ME LET ME let me ask you this. What what is the problem with the bill? Why is the PNP so viferous pushing back against it to the point where Angela Brownberg is saying that they are they are talking in the party about taking it to court and or going on the street? What about N is so egregious?
What about >> N?
>> NH >> is going to send the PMP further into the political wilderness and they're afraid of it. They cannot allow N to succeed.
And I hope because I know people listen to your program neighbor.
I hope that some person of influence in the party is listening to me now. Have no straight line to nobody again.
>> Uhhuh. Well, they cut you off.
remain anonymous.
>> Okay.
>> Yes sir.
>> I hope that they are listening.
If again understand this politics has changed globally. It is hard. Politics is harder now. It is hard for democracies to survive globally. Now that is the first understanding. And once you understand and accept that, then you should also understand and accept that if you do not speak, if if you do not minister, and I'm speaking to a minister somewhere now, if you do not minister to your congregation, >> you lose them.
>> Then you're going to lose them.
>> Yes, sir. As a matter of fact, I see that happen all the time in a church.
People left.
>> Okay.
need to minister to your congregation and if the entire Jamaica is expecting the government to do well by Jamaica, they at least need to understand how this doing well is going to work out.
But in my polit in my life um um protective I have never seen the PNP mobilizing so strongly on the ground against a reconstruction bill, a bill designed to rebuild the country after a category 5 hurricane. Can somebody tell me why is the opposition against it?
>> Never.
And that's not what I'm afraid of because anybody can hold any position on any issue. What I'm afraid of is equally there is not a push back to give the next view the alternative position to the position the PMP has established. And guess what?
I wonder if the Jamaica Liber realize that even though everybody want them pretty suit and talk about want play politics, I wonder if them realize that this is politics 101. And if they refuse to participate in politics 101, then they need to take note that he who writes the written page controls the thinking of the age. But if you allow the PMP to write the page, then it is the only thing that the people will be reading and discuss.
The Jamaica Labor Party need to realize that the politics can never be put aside. A politics make democracy work.
It is politics make democracy work. We not fe the street. We not feed the street. But the hair waves.
>> Yes sir.
>> People understand a girl about 10 years ago >> or his girlfriend name.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Can you imagine?
>> Yeah. The public education is weak question.
>> Yes.
>> Interested in a parliament when reached on the TV news.
>> Quite true. There must be a robust multi-million dollar public education campaign that allows the people to understand what it is that the government is doing. You know, well, you're quite you're quite correct, sir. Hold on there a little bit though.
Protecting um I have two other persons here. Let's hear what they have to say.
Oliver Bartley, you've been trying to come in.
>> Yes, Mr. Bartley. Hello.
>> Yes. Blessed. Blessed. Blessed. Blessed.
>> Blessed.
>> Yeah. Ask one question.
>> Yes.
>> Well, how is that how is that relevant, man? Come on.
>> Clarify. That's why.
>> Well, speak to the substance of what he says. His age is not a factor.
Me and all of the government 1962.
>> Oh. Uhhuh.
>> 10 days after independent.
>> Oh 64 now.
And he observe all of the politician then all of the government then.
Yeah.
from from come right up till now.
Um the bashing the PN >> No, no, no, no. He's he's not bashing the PNP, sir. To b to to to bash is a different thing from to critique. That's not bashing. Bashing is a different thing.
>> All right.
Yes.
>> All right.
But one man may have the power to do what he wants to do with the >> Who is that man? Who is that man?
>> The prime minister. So what is what is wrong with that?
>> No, that cannot be right.
>> Or hold on, hold on, sir. You have children.
>> Uhhuh. How many?
>> Two people.
>> Yes. Are you married?
>> No.
>> Oh, you run your yard? No. Are you on your yard?
>> Yes.
>> What wrong with that?
>> Oh, you never leave one yet?
>> You're right.
>> OKAY. WELL, WELL, MY BROTHER, LET ME let me tell you something. And I dealt with this last me let me tell you something sir the prime minister in my view could have run anything he want run because you know what sir I vote for a government and that government is led by the prime minister.
The prime minister sir is the head of the executive which is the cabinet. You know what that means?
You know what that means, sir?
That the that the prime minister tomorrow can fire the finance minister, replace the minister of national security.
The prime minister has awesome power.
You know, sir, already the prime minister can do tomorrow morning. They could call a state of emergency.
And there are several other things that the prime minister can do by virtue of the fact that he is the head of the executive.
He can take bills to parliament, change laws. Mind you, they have to pass through certain legislative process. We run what is called sir a a a democracy and under that democracy there is what a separation of powers. You you have you have the the judiciary, you have the legislature which is parliament and you have the executive.
The executive has awesome powers already sir if the prime minister wanted to abuse power. He could understand that n gives him no more power and he already has has you know you know he's he's in charge of the national housing trust several boards.
Tomorrow morning you could wake up and hear that we have a new minister of health. You know sir, we have a new minister of transport.
Tomorrow morning you could wake up and hear that prime minister has decided to to scrap the minister the minister the minister of of energy is no more. Prime Minister has that power. So what you talking about more >> since he was responding to something I said let me respond to you. You know it is a little mysterious sometimes and that's why and those who listen to me know my positions but since he's here already let me respond to you and let me take in about five deep breaths so I can be as calm as possible now >> but answer answer the question protecting about the the prime minister's power because I think I think it's a constru Yes.
Now that this man say but all of the Kool-Aid PMP share out drinking because of PMP talking point that that power is too centralized with the prime minister. NOW WHY IS THE PMP saying that?
The PMP knows that in a democracy especially Westminster democracy >> yes >> the center of power is the leader of government the prime minister >> absolutely >> everybody knows nobody because the PMP wants to develop Jama too much power is with a prime minister and you see something tired to talk especially men we must drink Koolaid we have stoppage of water okay we must drink Kooline now let me move on the same holiness that have done more in 10 years than the PMP did in 18 and 12 years in 18 years.
Andrew have done 10 years to develop Jamaica more than did 18 and a half years. And guess what is 18 and a half years is under three prime minister and then do one might thing and 10 years I've done more than all of them when spring Make it four lane complain everybody think everybody drive road with over the same again.
No problem.
Same highway when just came in 2016. He built a highway field straight through to somewhere in a bush from Westland to the same nonsense in a bush. It done so many years ago everybody drive complain.
>> Yes.
>> Almost finished with the longest and bridge in the English speaking Caribbean.
Everybody complain no problem everybody free minutes.
Yes.
And you never running power over UC power and all those multi-million projects they are completed within budget. any of them under money.
Now on to develop Jamaica. We have come out category five hurricane. The second biggest hurricane in the history whatever 174 years. The second biggest hurricane and he's now putting a plan together a sensible structure to develop Jamaica.
And just because Andrew drive from parish to parish and dish out money as Mark said just give every million $50 million that everybody sir.
>> All right. Um, respect to you. Um, you have anything else?
>> No, man. No, no, no, no. We having a conversation. We have conversations.
>> Huh?
>> All right.
>> Yes, sir.
the road thing since you want to have a conversation.
Every road being built in Jamaica now was developed and the plan left at the UDC by Edward Siaga in 1967. Ask another question sir.
So if you want to talk about highway 2000, Highway 2000 was developed and left at the UDC by Edward Siaga named Spanish Town by no toll road wasn't supposed to go there sir.
And when the PMP said they do nothing, they went to France find and cut a deal with the boy used money it AND THEN PUT A toll and pay for 50 years. You know who pay already since okay THE ROAD CUT FROM OUT OF FERRY GO STRAIGHT through to center that is a development road left at the UDC by Edward Siaga in 1967 somewhere between 1967 1968 was negotiating FUNDING WITH THE French for that road THE FRENCH STARTED THE ROAD. BOY STARTED THE ROAD AND COULD NOT FINISH IT. WHEN BRUCE GOLDEN CAME IN in 2009, Bruce Golden to China and beg the Chinese to come go. You know what the French COULD NOT DO? WHEN REACH HILLSIDE RIGHT across much thoused the road to carry. So the every time they put up the base, it kept falling.
It kept crumbling. Everything just kept crumbling. And Bruce goes and cut a deal with the Chinese and the Chinese build that road so we can drive on it today. Bruce Golden get the Jamaica from that Jamaica.
>> Uhhuh. I see.
>> Road 1968.
You want to talk about roads? the continuation of the highway go right in St. Elizabeth and West and Jamaica Labor Party plans. These are Oh, you thought it was PMP because PMP spent that considerable amount of time in power. So there's no way the PMP did not have a plan. Everything the PMP was doing.
You want to talk about the transport center.
You want to talk about the transport center that was supposed to be built downtown the glory of the Caribbean. It would have been all OF THOSE PLANS AT UC done by Edward Siaga from 1967 1968. Sir, you want to talk about market did not finish. You want to talk about the market so that you can go and shop and defend sus when the Jamaica party was building a four lane road to the airport and when PMP came in in 2012 what did they airport but look like PMP you drink some question talking points and I think this is where I s anything Right.
From 1944 when Jamaica got universal adult suffrage and Alexander Berman became the first premier. The first set of school 300 schools were built by the Jamaica Labor Party. And when the Jamaica Labor Party came back in 1962, another 500 schools built >> Hold on. Hold on for me. Hold on.
>> Hold on. Not to mention the np hospital.
>> Hold on. Hold on for me. Hold on for me.
Um over on YouTube. Um KC KC KC5383.
Thank you for your comment. Um he can spend the 6 billion in the NIR. the same amount is to be spent on the NAR.
Technically, the money coming for NAR is secured by the NI. Very good point that um KCKC. So, we talk about trust. I it it's it's it's already it's already um that that money is is is is in the NI and the government is managing that well. But I want to tell um Oliver Bartley, you see um Mr. Mr. Bartley the prime minister of Jamaica you see already holds massive executive power under the constitution n doesn't create imperial power it is just what n does centralizes reconstruction the reconstruction authority the p the prime minister already influenced Whatever N is doing is already can already be done by the prime minister. What N does is just centralize the reconstruction authority. The prime minister can already influence through other means. The prime minister can instruct nationals in trust tomorrow to go build houses anywhere in Jamaica once it um it passes c certain um certain um uh you know technicalities.
The the power of the prime minister under the constitution already are awesome. Sir Nara adds nothing.
I will not continue to have a conversation this way neighbor.
>> Okay.
>> And all of a sudden overnight the prime minister's powers must be questioned because the PMP not get no money for go dish out.
>> Yes.
>> I refuse to have conversations along these lines. The prime minister of Jamaica is the prime minister of Jamaica and when he was voted on the 3rd of September all powers were invested in him.
>> Yes.
>> And I will not time to a conversation that questions his powers. His powers are his powers who don't like it.
>> Well >> simple.
around them one side do not give time to the questioning of the honorable prime minister's power >> or when the next election come you know what to do >> the prime minister is the prime minister whatever because so the most people on the face on the earth say so that MEANS THE THE PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. THE BIGGEST GROUP OF CRIMINALS ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH because the prime minister TOO MUCH POWER CENTRALIZED. THAT'S HOW IT GO.
>> YEAH.
>> And they KNOW IT'S A LIE BECAUSE THE bill basically brings everything into full focus with the center of government.
>> Correct.
respected.
>> It adds no power to the prime minister really >> NO the prime minister report to cabinet.
Isn't that how the constitution structures governance in the country put him as prime minister and he must stand there and perform as prime minister.
Great, great. Uh, before I bring Scratchy in Balfor Morgan, good evening to you.
Morgan, Balfor Morgan 7. Good evening, sir.
>> No, not there at all. Hello, Balfor.
He's gone. Let's jump over to Scratchy.
How you doing, sir?
>> I'm okay.
>> Scratchy. um this this idea that somehow all of a sudden Prime Minister Holmes's uh power is being questioned is a bit of rubbish you know um because don't you agree with me primer that prime ministers under our constitution carry awesome executive power to do a lot of things in Jamaica that quite frankly some of them could abuse their Westime just neighbor prime minister neighbor prime minister the reason for him being the prime minister neighbor minister the prime one neighborh know when I hear about the prime minister laughing because when you look at the PNP neighbor support America America don't even support but yet come too much power that Is it no comparison to what the 21 president have no comparison to what the Venezuelan president have >> just for information just for information scratchy because I think the people here need to understand that the the executive power under the constitution the prime minister has or have those powers already that n really had no power that the prime minister already have to direct government how to function in Jamaica.
I'm saying about the prime minister too much for his neighbor because neighbor two countries mainly Venezuela and Cuba neighbor and these countries neighbor of these countries humongous amount of powers neighbor too much neighbors and people's rights human rights >> and people's rights >> and people's rights neighbors coming out of these two neighborh person and stuff like that.
for standing up against your country support. So the neighbor right now as it relates to our neighborhood authority is coming a thing.
>> Quite quite true and and quite frankly the prime minister ought to be commended because there has been no instance where this prime minister has abused the power invested in him by the constitution.
Look, look, look at how he managed the country during COVID when he had some ex um um powers under the under the disaster risk management to you know and he he did say that at that time during COVID how he realized the awesome power that he had could basically lock down the country and he was was very judicious in how he used it. Scratch neighbor so much neighbor and neighbor citizens neighbor and also neighbor despite the amount of power that was given between disaster risk management neighbor he still restrained himself neighbor from using the full authority of that power neighbor so that he would not be seen as pushing and for the people neighbor in a very distressed time and this moment.
>> Yeah. And is it is it is it is it not true that the prime minister could already push reconstruction through through the existing ministries? N makes coordinated instead of scattered. The prime minister budget of the government. Prime Minister have awesome awesome influence over over that you know scratch >> definitely neighbor the prime minister has awesome influence over the budget the budget is crafted prime minister knows they have to know what is going on with the budget neighbor because the prime minister neighbor when each ministry agencies and department neighbor sending their budget neighbor the prime minister is one neighbor but the prime minister ultimate power as to which projects are what neighbor's main priorities neighboring neighbor because his visual neighbor mostly the cabinet is following neighbor because the head of the cabinet is exactly the prime minister neighbor and the lead neighbor.
>> Let me take you back now to the the main theme tonight. Um, scratchy uh tribalism. Are you concerned scratchy that uh 63 years after our independence?
There was a time in Jamaica Scratchy when it was about the tribes. And if we are to be very honest, both parties.
It is my view, Scratchy, that the Jamaica Labor Party have moved away from the type of tribal politics that is about protecting the interest of the clan and are more focused on the protecting the preservation the progress of the nation.
Does the no vote of the PNP not solidify the clan the clan idea which is rooted in political tribalism? Is the PNP not being tribalist in the in the no vote, the exclusive no vote? None broke with their part because even on the government side, you saw Mal Malagu for um raising some objections. The PNP were at one in this no against reconstruction uh tribes strategy. They they come to take they steal. They're not into building. Does it not concern you that right now in Jamaica we seem to have a political party and a tribe?
Um definitely neighbor what I can say neighbor is that both political organizations neighbor one time neighbor the same neighbor and and we can attest to it neighbor that Jamaica li a neighbor you know how you know neighbor it is judge neighbor compared to in the past how they used to practice their politics of the past compared to now and we have definitely seen it from a success because they have won three consecutive elections never done before that victory is a result of the change in policies that Jamaica Labor party and Michael don't forget that Michael is the one who kind brought forward this change neighbor Jamaica Labor Party neighbor and it has brought them from a success neighbor still in the tribal warfare neighbor still stuck in the tribal politics of their style that they use in still thinking that this is 196 not realizing that played out at this point And that's no place in this new society neighbor and that is why we have seen neighbor unpreced and you look at the stance that party took the style of politics of words that opposition wanted to take the Jamaica labor party they didn't get distracted by people They stay focused. They released their manifesto. They went out in the street achievement and stuff like that. So I believe neighbor tribal nature Jamaica labor party in terms of going tick and terri still managed to gain 14 years. I must say we must also understand a lot of neighboring uppers.
This is more substance. So the Jamaica Labor Party neighbor choice neighbor had to stay because the supporters are supporting favor for that person wanting programs for neighbor because I can tell you this neighboring part of our population the population Jamaica made the change party favorite and something like that. They had to stay on point. They had to stay focusing across Jamaica. And that is the reason why we saw Jamaica Labor Party come out.
I always try to point out all the consequences across Jamaica whether they are rural or urban neighbor party neighbor Jackson one neighbor Julber that one neighbor neighbor of Jamaica.
income.
and support the community's neighbor influencing the gated community neighbor influence who didn't need a strong man to put on their neighbor for a living.
So those person's neighbor in that constituency neighbor where there's a pocket in constituency and those are the ones who across neighbor I stand to be corrective but if you look at constituencies across across neighbor conituenc one neighbor that a large amount of population to middle income in the neighbor going into the election things were really bad against neighbor to no upper middle class incomeunities neighbor every single one neighbor I can tell you neighbor that 30,000 upper middle classif that want to read achievement. It is not the base that want to hear anything about economy. It is a base neighbor that all they want your neighbor is empty promises neighbor and that is what they believe in and Jamaica Labor party neighbor the person who support the Jamaica Labor party financial strength neighbor and not accordance neighbor these person will pull their support and election neighbor need upper middle class as much as you need the lower Jamaica won that unprecedented term because the upper middle class came out in support of them for that neighbor. I can tell the neighbor party is not the same neighbor. Jamaica Labor Party has to campaign different. They have to carry themselves different. They have to speak different neighbor because neighbor that support them has the power neighbor to hold them accountable and has the power neighbor to talk neighbor and take away their support from them and they don't want that. So they have to act neighbor in a way that is in the best interest of Jamaica and Jamaition who don't care about you know people large population that don't care about anything that has to do with economy don't care about the advancement of Jamaica boldly go against neighbor and don't for any of them supporters neighbor because that is what about neighbor development destruction over construction.
>> Wow. Okay. Well, that's fantastic to hear from you as usual. Let's jump over to to YouTube though where we have member member member Enriquez. Good evening to you member Henriquez.
>> Good evening neighbor. Good evening scratch Caroline other guest and um neighbor rights YouTubers everybody.
Have a good day.
Uh, good evening Harry.
>> Hearing my neighbor.
>> Um, >> hearing me neighbor.
>> Sorry, I'm hearing you now member. How are you, sir?
>> I'm doing good now, neighbor. I'm doing good.
>> You are doing I am hearing you quite quite okay.
Go ahead, neighbor. I'm hearing you.
>> I don't I don't know. There there there's an echo. There there's an echo. There's an there's an echo. I hope I hope that um Harry's hearing me. Um go ahead, Harry.
>> I'm hearing you loud and clear.
>> You're hearing me loud and clear. Okay.
Okay. Okay. Thank you. All right, Harry.
Um, by the way, um, let me tell my my my YouTubers that there are some information going across your screen.
Let me see if I can get let me see if I can get that information up. Um, the the viewers on YouTube are encouraged to join the membership, to subscribe to the channel, and to check out the Hello Neighbor store. So, go to the Hello Neighbor store and check that out. Also you may encourage well I'm going to encourage them to to uh to send super chat. Yeah your super chat um will be read live on air.
All right so membership subscription merch information uh that information is going across your screen now. Please go to the Hello Neighbor store and um and check out what is happening over there. All right, member Harry, welcome again, sir.
>> Always good to be here, neighbor.
>> Yeah, member. Um the the the topic tonight, tribe or country. Um member Harry, you're a young man and as you look on on the debate in the parliament, member, how does it come across to you looking at both of these parties? uh uh member, do do you feel that the tribalism >> is is is once again is once again predominant in in this debate?
>> Well, there there's always tribalism in Jamaica's culture and a neighbor, right?
Specifically in the political arena. Um people who are diearted and call themselves diearted this or diearded that. and and as such will always have the political lines being drawn no matter what. But I think what has you know been shown in in both both houses of the parliament is is a a lot more distasteful than what we we've come to know. It is a a new in modern political um sayings right in in terms of how the politics have changed. We should not be having this high level of tribalistic behavior and tendencies being being radicalized throughout parliament, especially at a time like this. That that call for more unity, a unification in in in how to get the country to move forward. And that in itself neighbor can do great harm to this recovery process because when when you look at it it can hurt in terms of the the reconstruction when it comes on to the national planning you know who which communities you know how they come together the continuity of of various projects right how do we shape these products um projects sorry Now it can cause a what what I would say it's a polarized effect neighbor where when you look at it you see the opposition for example you know they may see something a project being passed and they're not satisfied with the the amount of of um recovery activities that are being done in in their area and as such they them block road they go ahead and they put up a fight they stall projects Because people need to understand that n answers to parliament, you know, as an oversight and that is where projects are decided on. And with this tribalistic view that we that we're seeing now, it simply means that the opposition can always stall these projects before they even get off the ground. And that doesn't hurt those who are in parliament. It hurts Jamaica. It hurt Jamaicans in need of of this recovery process. Right? So it it can cause grave harm neighbor. and we're dealing with with climatic issues in a neighbor. So, it's not just about speed when it comes on to this. And when you delay something like that, it it it hurts because we have to also be preparing for disasters to come and and if if you're going to to argue over what I've seen naturally in our process who which which party get how much people you have 10, me have six, no work can go on. And when you look at that in a neighbor, it moves the the the the >> the meter from competence because the truth of the matter is we should not be seeing color when it comes on to this recovery because it's a nationalistic view that we should have. But again, because people are so tribalistic in their ears, the dieharded comrades and so on, you know, they they are hungry for for what they're used to because what they're used to has changed over the last three terms, over the last decade. So the the some people may say the hand out government and and so on is is a thing of the past and as such now you have to show your competency and a lot of times neighbor you will have you won't have an equity when it comes on to that because if if it so happens that for example an area A is being reconstructed and and it just so happen that Labor party have five man that is more qualified you give them the job because of not because of party colors and and and you want to to have that equity in terms of numbers. It has to be equity in terms of deliverables, right?
Because at the end of the day, NAR will be judged by results and by nothing else.
>> And this is how the tribalistic view can can hurt it. Um when it comes on to that now the the the shared responsibility also gets divided neighbor, right? Nobody wants to to hold each other accountable.
It is going to be I'm going to defend my person against you. It's us versus them.
And we've seen what that cause neighbor.
We've seen it from the 70s, 80s, 90s coming up. And that's it has not brought Jamaica um to fruition. It has stalled us. It has push us back when the rest of the world was moving forward. And as such, I'd say it holds no place in today's politics, in today's governance whatsoever. But unfortunately, we're seeing a selective few who they have more power than anybody else want to bring back those days. And and I say those days should not enter um or should not go beyond our parliament to in our society.
Let me ask you, what is the damage to the future of Jamaica that you think um this moment does? Um is it is it should it be just um you know passed on as you know the PNP voted no, the government voted yes. What are the what are the the lessons that we can learn from this Harry and and and at the same time how is the people's national party to be viewed in light of what is happening at this point mind you uh we are in a period of national reconstruction and the PNP have been nothing but obstructionist how do you think the PNP are to be viewed or how do you think they are being viewed and What will history record of them for this moment?
>> Well, there's two sides to it in a neighbor because currently as as it stands, you know, history is written every day. And as such, the opposition is writing the history that they think will prevail. And I say that because they're doing everything in their power that they know, right? which will stall to to to to delay to um to disrupt to distract right and I can't call a whole lot of this in a neighbor but it is one that comes down to everything they're doing that they think is power because my golding has said it they have gotten 14 more um seats there there are 14 more voices in parliament and he has kept forgetting that strength is not necessarily early numbers.
The competence and how you you execute and as such they're mistaking that yes there are 28 of them and as such we can fight every and anything but at the end of the day those persons who would have voted for you for one reason or another you are delaying their very advancement.
You're delaying their recovery. You're delaying them to build back better to build forward. You're not hurting yourselves now because all 20 of them perfectly fine get at the end of the day get $15 million a year time and counting right because they're the ones who are feeling the pain. They are the ones whose roofs were were were were blown off whose house was decimated and as such they think that with all the persons they've infiltrated in different um institutions across the country they think that they can shape how how history remembers them in a powerful way. The truth about um par little little breaking up there >> hearing me neighbor. Yeah, you're breaking up a little. Go ahead now.
>> Yes. So, I'm saying the the other part to it is how the actual Jamaicans who wants this recovery, including some of their people who voted for them in a neighbor. This is how they will tell history. It is not how 400,000 people tell a history of of 2.8 or 3 million people. It is the collective that will decide it. And once NAR does its job and is executed the way it ought to, we will see how history should and will be recorded in terms of how and what are the results of Jamaica. And the truth about it is that the the the international stage as well neighbor >> yes >> will etch a part or a chapter in Jamaica's um history books because >> this n delivery and the results that will come will be studied for decades to come not by like states but also by major countries across the world who will want to model this right because >> thus far we are in line and ahead of a lot of major countries when dealing with disasters. We've seen it with COVID and we're seeing it now. The World Bank has said it best. We are forward thinkers neighbor and as such for a small member state and we're putting something like this having studied three of worlds stating disasters and to implement something like this in such a great way and I know a lot of people they're talking about um you know the prime minister has has a lot of power and so on and there's no oversight and all of that is is crap because unlike the other um country's neighbor how this has been and and will be implemented is a multifaceted thing. You know, it's it's it's accounted on different levels and I think people aren't what the levels are, >> right? I hear people beating Drum Rock, but they praise Epoch. Drumro is a better version of Epoch. So, how do you and let me put it this way, Epoch Neighbor is the best institution of its kind in Jamaica's history. Epoch.
Epoch. Right. Anybody can >> tell us a little bit about what EPOC is about and what it does.
>> So the EPO is the economic program um oversight committee neighbor which in terms of the global it's globally recognized for one which means has to be something good right and it is an independent committee.
So and I love the fact that Mr. Mr. Um Duncan spoke about it in in the Senate last Friday to let the people know that this was not a political committee but an independent body. It wasn't brought out because of of any JLP or any PMP or the IMF at that EPOC would have been created without any of those parties or um IMF. Now the EPOC authority neighbor is actually not legislative. Let let people understand that. So it is a social consensus among the members who are taken from different areas in society that come together to actually handle the macroeconomic transformation of Jamaica. Now when we speak of it, it handles the fiscal aspect of of of Jamaica neighbor and that and this bred through the financial institutions right and the financial sector of Jamaica. And if Epoch can do such a great job and Jamrock is modeled from it and a better version of it which is also independent cuz I always have to say the opposition will have somebody on it, the the the government will have somebody on it, the the private sector will have somebody and and so on and so forth. These persons will oversee all of what is happening and they have full right to do so because we've seen that you don't need legislation when it comes on to this version to ensure that we have coherence and that we have compliance because remember EPOC is globally recognized and is globally accepted. the IMF pass EPOC to neighbor it is because of EPO why we deliver um part of why we deliver under that IMF deal. So if we model e with work why is it that people are saying there they aren't oversight in fact I think they they fail to understand because I said it it's multifaceted it comes in different levels now when you look at it neighbor overall nara will be accountable to to to cabinet and the prime minister is accountable to cabinet which is parliament just the same right any plans and projects that are being done are agreed upon in parliament. So it is not one where minister this is the project nobody can tell me nothing. No. And one of the beautiful thing about it as well neighbor the financial oversight aspect of it the accounts are audited must be audited annually and if persons are worrying about the time frame right the cabinet secretary selects an external auditor not the prime minister not the parliament not mark golding not the minister is carrying out a project the secretary goes for external internal auditor that's oversight. So when they talk about Andrew Holes having all this power it is nonsense. But when you look at even going further neighbor right all the the accounts when it comes on to the auditor general this is different from the external auditor you know the auditor general has no statuto when it comes on to holding back the she he or she I know it's a she now but if it changes he or she has full access to every document and every accounts that come through n that is oversight and and and she won't be doing it every 6 months, every 3 months. It's on the go every and anything that goes through. So I don't see why people saying, "Oh, there's no oversight on this one man have all this power." This is nonsense, neighbor.
>> Yes.
>> Right. Now, if you want to look at it as well, the CEO can be neighbor if any mishaps happen, you know, and he will also answer to parliament because he has a review to do too. So if the job is being done and it's not being done according to the books, he can be fired and be held accountable just the same.
Now these are oversight and a lot of oversightes are within our already existing structures. So I don't get it why why people think that in fact NAR still is accountable to to um the PAC neighbor and the PAC right which is cheered by the opposition by the way unless them don't trust themselves and the people don't trust them it there's also where they have to ensure that they they they commit and they they uphold the integrity commission right they have to abide by all of those rules and regulation. So when people going to say this and that and they have to understand the multifacet the different levels as what does and the areas that hold them accountable. If you don't understand just say you don't understand but don't run with this narrative. This is where knowledge is key and ignorance is not bliss because it can cost you your own recovery. So it's better you to be in the know and stop regurgitating information and run with it. It's not that time. You get the information and if you don't want information then you stay out of the recovery. But don't try come with your ignorant self when it comes on to this issue and want to impart it as if it is fact. How you feel don't matter. This recovery has to be done and has to be done through N because we've seen it. It is not just a $6.7 billion US that is at at stake neighbor. There are because NAR will be crowding in other um projects. Remember I know the government itself could even couldn't even um deliver its own projects. Money that has been budgeted for years upon years and this has been happening for decades can't be spent because of the bureaucratic process and and and and the the the procedures procurement take four years for approve one one little fence one school. So you know how much government couldn't spend money but n will be helping us with that private sector um development that is there people can't get it past them with approval that's money outside of 6.7 billion and that now would be crowding in all of these things so when people talking things ne they need to come with the facts and read the bill and come back again and not listen to to to sound bites and clickbait and all of that read the damn thing for themselves man >> well well Yeah. All right, Member Harry, coming back to you. Um, Protecting Jamaica, uh, we have 10 minutes to 10:00 and um, I'm going to have to give you three out of that. I'm going to give um, Scratchy three and I'm going to give my member Harry three and I'll take one minute to to um, put a lid on on on the on the show tonight. Uh, protecting Jamaica. Uh, you have three minutes, sir. Um, you know the subject we have been talking about. You have three minutes at large. Three three minutes will not suffice neighbor. But you know what? I hear Ari using some words a while ago and I think we're falling into the trap supporting the PMP's argument when we use them words that them don't know and they are not aware and they are not familiar with neighbor.
These people know what they're doing.
They have no intention of allowing N to be the golden end that lays the golden egg.
>> Yes, >> they know what they're doing.
Keith Duncan stood up in the parliament on Friday in the Senate and he reminded them that the PMP don't own EPO. It is himself and the business leaders who came up with the idea and drafted the parameters and went to Peter Phillips with it and he and he signed off on it and he named Janette Calder because and and reminded her of her statement she made in regards to Epoch and how significant it was that you have such a body to see to the monitoring of a program that the government was undertaking with IMF.
And then he he continued by saying that um Jamrock is the same thing as EPOC.
So the same support that you give EPO and the same voice that you gave EPO when the PMP was government when Epoch came to life.
Jamrock is the same thing, even more powerful and even more structured than the epoch.
So give it the same voice and give it the same um support.
a neighbor. Again, I try my very best sometimes when I put my thoughts together concerning the issues that are discussed daily in our society.
I try my best to not fall into PMP trap because it would I think it would make better sense to tell the people them say, "Listen me, N is going to rebuild Black River. It is going to rebuild West Mland, Anova and Trilani and St. James.
It is going to rebuild these places, but also not just to rebuild what was.
It is going to rebuild people's lives, but it is going to build better than what was.
Anara is this vehicle through which a lot of other projects that needs to take off are going to happen. Here is one example.
Even while we are discussing N neighbor and listeners, Desmond McKenzie gave the West Mullan Parish Council all the money for build the bases for some houses for the people them who did in a shelter. The PMP them who did a shelter.
The West Mullan Parish Council take the money.
The contractor start the bases and reach about five or six and couldn't get no money to pay the work on them.
The job have to stop.
This is what N cannot deal with and this is what N is going to fix.
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE WHAT THE MP WANT YOU know to set up a committee to use the same apparatus that exists to do the rebuilding so that them can use the parish council them where them are in control of to make some money for run election but to also hold up some my project them say government can get bad mouth n is going to cancel out all of that nonsense and skull duckery but better yet what neighbor The people's national party will not have any handle on anything that n will be doing.
And there goes the problem.
No money pass.
Million clans man drive one water truck the whole of St. Katherine.
One man draw some light one bush one bush one year and say Christmas tree lighting that in an over and 750 million was spent the people's national party knows that with a structured approach to developing Jamaica and rebuilding those areas that were demolished by Melissa. They know THAT THE ONLY PROBLEM them have is that no money pass through them hand and we need to talk the things them how them are YOU KNOW THE PMP WANT MONEY out Thomas election thing Portland to feed the hungry them call them and what you see them doing now neighbor they are campaigning them start the campaigning why because as I said you know we tell you know the PMP does not have a base bigger than 325,000 people they don't so what they doing they trying to keep the base alive them know them not have no more money to spend next year when a local government election.
I wonder if some of us forgetting that local government election is due next year.
All they're attempting to do is to keep the ground fertile politically, keep the base alive and we should not allow them to get nangled in this kind of political nastiness.
NAR is here to rebuild, to build forward, and to build more resilient the parts of Jamaica that was ravaged by this hurricane. And I will not walk into them trap and follow them in espousing any argument or any position that says that them understand. Oh, and them not get this and them very well understand what they're doing. And the Jamaica Labor Party need to understand that they understand what they're doing and prepare a set of counterarguments that helps the people to understand what the PMP is doing and what NARO will be doing. Good night to all patriotic Jamaicans.
Thank you so much um to protecting um over to you now um my friend from Canada. Um I hope your heart feels is feeling a little better tonight.
I needed that one.
Put the ar neighbor.
>> Well, I'm just I'm just asking you for your closing comments um until until 8:00 tomorrow, sir.
>> Well, my closing neighbor, you know, my neighbor thinking Jamaican just continue to come out.
um push the government points, push the good thing that we know the government is doing, continue to highlight the good of the government, you know, continue to to spread the good word of N with your friends, family members and even your siblings who are in schools neighbors. I always say neighbor I believe that neighbor we might be we might be a part of the generation neighbor that conceptualize n and saw the passing of the n bill neighbor but I but there's a younger demographic group neighbor that is coming up neighbor that that that next election neighbor I always say we be calling up on this group this group neighbor the 16 year olds neighbor yes the 15y old the 17 year olds neighbor who are currently in high school >> these are the person's neighbor who will be asking neighbor to come as first time voters in the next general election neighbor. I think neighbor make perfect sense if if we give this group neighbor a full understanding of what n is from now don't wait until 2030 neighbor to be going over it again and trying to and trying to acknowledge and trying to explain to persons what n is I expect neighbor that with ning of n I expect neighbor massive public public campaign neighbor when I say massive neighbor massive public campaign neighbor and our public buses neighbor I know every way you going to billboard across the island neighbor it's all about N paramil neighbor branding shirts caps key rings stuff like that neighbor pushing neighbor yes >> and and just a public education neighbor because sometime we often see public education neighbor is where where these guys just find a media house neighbor flood this media house with millions of dollars neighbor and ask this media house neighbor to carry ads and stuff like that neighbor. Yes, that still have some form of of thing in our society. Yes, they still need for that. But the main public campaign neighbor should be one neighbor that target our institutions neighbor and the main institution that I would target neighbor is our schools. Yes. You know I would ask government to also be creative in the persons who are asked to be the neighbor who goes neighbor and carry out the message you know see if we can find creative ways to use influencers positive influencers neighbor give them the give them give them the booklet the pamplet so understanding of what n is and ask them to go into our schools neighbor because I tell you neighbor I'm going to say it again neighbor this is the co group that we'll be calling up on neighbor to vote Come 2030 neighbor they will be the first time voters and I think it would make perfect sense neighbor if we let this co group have a better understanding better knowledge of what n is neighbor so that come 2030 neighbor when they have seen some of the projects neighbor that might have been rolled out as a result of n neighbor they can acknowledge it they knew about it from a tender age and now in their adult stage neighbor they can vote on it neighbor and support it going forward so that that is my take on n a massive public education campaign. There's a lot of funding in AR and I would expect that a part of that funding neighbor is done neighbor towards the campaign neighbor and the pushing because this is too important neighbor.
>> Yeah. This is too important for it to just fly over the heads of our citizens neighbor and and sometime neighbor my granny always say sometime the tree when the tree grow the tree too big.
So I think neighbor sometime I don't want to waste my time neighbor pushing narrative neighbor to some of the soal neighbor who stuck in old neighbor who still believe Michael man is Joshua neighbor who still believe that Michael really did give Michael correction neighbor you know I I don't want to I I don't want to convince those person about what n I think there's a younger group neighbor who understand technology there's a young coming up neighbor who knows and can see the neighbor what development look like an appreciation for development neighbor there's a younger group coming up neighbor who have more pride and more dignity than their parents or their grandparents who support the PNP neighbor and I think neighbor at some point neighbor this group neighbor will be given the opportunity neighbor to have their own free will as to where they vote go I believe neighbor that in the future come 2030 a lot of these traditional communities that we see where persons normally vote in line with their grandparents vote in line with their parents neighbor in a lot of these this PNP committ especially neighbor we're going to see persons change in neighbor and branching off because what these PNP supporters these PNP soal dinosaurs don't understand neighbor that their kids or their grandkids is in the form of schooling system neighbor a lot of these kids are consider bright and any bright student neighbor any bright child coming up neighbor would definitely based on what looking at what is going on neighbor we not support the people's national party neighbor so I can tell neighbor that come 2030 and about third term neighbor based on the third term was yes it was very consequential important neighbor but I think 2030 neighbor that four term neighbor is going to be even much more much more telling neighbor going forward neighbor because that four-term neighbor is something neighbor that we have to look to and the four neighbor the government will be judge neighbor solely neighbor and what and it's reconstruction of the disaster area so with with time con neighbor for as a result of Right. But >> yeah man pick it up neighbor before you pick it up there is something important I scratch you just a little while that I was saying earlier you say if the government smart the prime minister few days after the ilang was dropped endorse it if government smart then put nilangi >> well yeah that's so true very true very very true u member member Harry >> yes Mr. President you know, it's yours is yours to is yours to take home, sir.
Take us home tonight. And um um when you're through, tell our our friends over on on YouTube. Um goodbye. It's it's over to you, Harry, to to bring our program for tonight to a close.
>> Well, to to to utilize the kiss meth kiss method, you know, neighbor, keep it sweet and simple.
>> Yes.
>> I I just want to implore every Jamaicans to to just read for themselves, neighbor, right? tune in to programs like these that will give the facts over our feelings. Right? These are conversations that matter, especially when it comes on to to the livelihood and reconstruction of of our not just physical structures neighbor but a whole cultural society. um when it comes on to ensure that we aren't left in in in in in the wilderness as we've seen after major hurricanes neighbor for Jamaica to go back on the map and and and really and truly realize the potential that we all have grown up our forefathers have seen it neighbor and say yeah man Jamaica can do this and we've never done it n will catapult that for us right it's a catalyst to getting these things done and I want everybody to inform themselves as best as possible as it relates to the government, you know, endorsed in terms of what scratchy said, you have to find ingenious ways now to to get it out, right? To educate people, ensure that they know that this is their civic duty because there's an important part to NAR where the citizens when when the data is being collected and the projects to be decided on, it's the citizens that will decide those neighbor based on the information gathered on the ground. And as such, if you don't know what you really want and what is capable, then you won't be getting what is best put forward. So you have to know so you can actually have a grave input when it comes on to to N and the reconstruction of your very communities to the greater extent of Jamaica. So like I said, neighbor, keeping it short.
And I want to to to say to everybody else, neighbor, the diaspora, keep on spreading the good word. keep on advising people about it. Keep pushing them to to get the information cuz you play a big role. You know, it is not just remittances that that that you play a big role in and have a big say in Jamaica. Now is the time to also ensure that those who are overseas that wants to come back home, they can play a part in shaping the Jamaica that they want to come back home to and and I land it there. As regards to YouTubers, you know, you can always give give your word in through the through the comment section. You know, there's also the the super chat. You can always send your super chat as well. We we do advise you to to to go ahead and do that. The merch is on on the website as well. You know, you can you can take a look at the merch. You can see what you like. You can advise us on on on you know, any purchase you do want to make that happen directly through the the website as well. And you know, we're looking to bigger and better things. This is the Politics Plus Network, where conversation matters, where you matter, your voice matters, and of course, we're going to echo what is true and right for Jamaica. So, YouTubers, love you. Have a great night. Continue supporting. Tell a friend to tell a friend, and tell that friend to tell a friend. Like, share, and subscribe, and let us grow together and help Jamaica build even better.
>> Fantastic. Great. Well, um, Shafrine and my friends on YouTube, thank you so much for, uh, tuning in tonight. Tribe or country, the PNP's no vote, the N debate. Uh, I think there's there's no bigger story in Jamaica at this time and therefore we're going to have no choice unless there are other breaking news tomorrow to continue this discussion on N. In the meantime, we invite you if you are on Tik Tok to join us tomorrow morning at 8:00, 8:00 a.m. for live at 8 with Hello Neighbor and Caroline. We go from 8 until 10:00.
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