APPROVAL OF CABINET: HON. NSAMBA SEEKS FOR MORE TIME TO APPROVE JESSICA ALUPO FOR VICE PRESIDENCY

Added: 2026-05-31

[00:00:00]Right honorable speaker, it's because the other side is eager to run through even without following certain procedures. Right honorable.

[00:00:13]Right honorable speaker, my name is Patrick Nsambo Shabe.

[00:00:17]I represent the people of Kasanda North.

[00:00:21]I'm raising on a procedural matter, uh, right honorable.

[00:00:26]This is a motion that has been presented to this house.

[00:00:32]My expectation was is that after the motion after the secondment there is some debate about the matter, right honorable.

[00:00:48]But right honorable speaker, why I rose up on a procedural matter I saw you going direct to putting the question.

[00:00:58]Yet not all members may be agreeing with the motion. So, right honorable speaker, are we proceeding well if we don't you don't al- al- al- lot time for debate of this motion? Thank The This is my ruling.

[00:01:23]When the mover was moving the motion there was a complaint this side that we are delaying the decision the approval.

[00:01:35]And I didn't want the speaker to be accused of delaying this process.

[00:01:43]But if honorable Msamba, you have an objection to the motion move.

[00:01:51]You can debate.

[00:01:53]You can say what you have to say.

[00:01:56]But also the word of caution, some exercises you should restrict yourself when it is an exercise in futility.

[00:02:14]But, Yes.

[00:02:19]>> Thank you. Thank you, right honorable speaker.

[00:02:21]>> Yes, Wakiso.

[00:02:22]>> Yes. Right, honorable speaker.

[00:02:25]Uh the post the position we are about to have as a country is key.

[00:02:33]And that's why actually at the end of it all, much as we're going to put a question, you will find that it is likely going to be consensus. But, that aside, it um and my matter I'm raising, given that I'm a shadow minister of gender designate, and I comfortably and I comfortably raise on matters of women. Right, honorable speaker.

[00:02:59]May your office, the way you've assured us on academic matters that you've already got the papers answered, may your office also assure us on the matter of birth of citizenship of the person we are talking about because elsewhere we've been seeing some names who have got dual citizenship. So, for us to get clarification and for us to go for this question well, we also request you assure us on all qualities and we shall be comfortable. I thank you.

[00:03:31]>> Uh I I appreciate your concerns as a as a member of parliament and a I would be glad and this house would be glad for you to counter the motion.

[00:03:50]They've moved a motion indicating she's Ugandan.

[00:03:55]She studied in Uganda.

[00:03:57]If you have a contrary information, bring it.

[00:04:09]>> Right, right honorable speaker.

[00:04:17]Right honorable speaker, debate in this house should really not be about those who are against.

[00:04:28]I know there are so many members out there who have nice words about honorable Jessica Alupo.

[00:04:43]When honorable Sewungu came out to say we are out of we we wanted to they they they complained about the time issue.

[00:04:53]Honorable Sewungu was saying ample time should be provided for debate. Right honorable speaker.

[00:05:01]Having said that, >> Was that in this parliament?

[00:05:05]>> Yes, that's that's what honorable Sewungu said.

[00:05:08]Right honorable Right honorable speaker.

[00:05:13]Having said that, it looks like the opportunity you've accorded it only for those that want to travel a futile lane as you have described it.

[00:05:31]And I want to say one thing.

[00:05:38]That the vice president >> my permission to say two things.

[00:05:45]>> Thank you Thank you very much, right honorable speaker.

[00:05:49]Right honorable speaker, the two things you have permitted me are these.

[00:05:57]The Constitution of the Republic of Uganda creates the office of the Vice President.

[00:06:07]And it sets out clearly the roles of the Vice President.

[00:06:16]And the person nominated has been a Vice President in the previous term.

[00:06:26]The people that brought the motion here denied us the opportunity to understand the constitutional achievements as per the person nominated.

[00:06:46]Much of the the the motion brought and the justifications they were talking about matters to do that this person has been a class monitor somewhere, has been a uh went to this course or this one.

[00:07:07]But what the people of Uganda want to hear, right honorable speaker, right honorable speaker, what the people of Uganda want to hear >> There's order here.

[00:07:21]Right honorable speaker, is the is the colleague in order?

[00:07:27]My name is Opolot Okoth Simon Peter, representing Kanyum County.

[00:07:32]Right honorable speaker, is the colleague in order to start a lying to us that Did the seconder and the nominator middle mention anything to do with class monitor anywhere?

[00:07:48]We did not hear that.

[00:07:50]Right, honorable speaker. Is he in order?

[00:07:54]>> Uh Honorable >> Trying to demean the person of the vice president, really.

[00:07:59]>> Honorable Sampa, and this is to colleagues as we are undergoing through this uh induction and orientation.

[00:08:09]I must apologize for asking you to giving you permission to say two things.

[00:08:14]I'm sure this last one is the second one is not what you were prepared to say.

[00:08:23]Because on the record there is nowhere where a matter of class monitor was mentioned.

[00:08:32]And honestly, I thought as you rose, you would do is a senior member of this house.

[00:08:40]And I thought you would be substantive enough either for or against.

[00:08:47]But now looking hearing him, I do not know whether he's for or against. Why don't you allow the motion a question to be put so that we have a vice vice president?

[00:09:01]Because I also have this side.

[00:09:04]Would you be because by the time the leadership of any organization fronts a person like the leader of opposition, if he's to be designated.

[00:09:16]The speaker is talking.

[00:09:22]Come and sit near.

[00:09:28]Okay. So, honorable honorable Musamba, I think you you've concluded.

[00:09:33]>> Yeah.

[00:09:33]>> Right, honorable speaker. I had not concluded.

[00:09:38]Actually, I'd just started.

[00:09:41]Right honorable speaker, I raised my matter basing on the constitution.

[00:09:46]I don't know why my friend, a senior colleague, out of the matter I was raising, he only had the example. I don't know why.

[00:09:58]Because that is what was Right Right honorable speaker, Order.

[00:10:03]Order. Honorable speaker.

[00:10:06]Order. Thank you so much.

[00:10:08]Right honorable speaker, my name is Babirye Betty Ochan.

[00:10:13]I'm the member of parliament for Okoro East.

[00:10:16]Right honorable speaker, the honorable member and the senior, I think this is his third term.

[00:10:24]He's been here when the right when her Excellency the vice president was appointed as a vice president.

[00:10:35]She's been here for some time and she's aware.

[00:10:38]He did not raise any matter of nationality.

[00:10:42]Is he therefore in order for him to raise such a matter or he's just deliberately wasting the time of this house?

[00:10:50]Thank you.

[00:10:53]Honorable Ssembatya, I think we've dragged on this for long.

[00:10:58]There's consensus that the vice president nominee nominated by the president of Uganda has attracted a lot of consensus. Why don't we vote by row? If you are not in favor, you can withhold your what?

[00:11:18]Yes.

[00:11:20]Most obliged, right honorable.

[00:11:22]So, can we put the question?

[00:11:25]And those in favor beginning this side, row by row, first row, and the clerks you count.

[00:11:49]Second row Can I go on third row?

[00:12:13]Third row Fourth row this side, you're raising your hand in favor of the motion. That means you are saying yes.

[00:12:52]The fifth row at the back and the rows in front of the speaker.

[00:13:38]>> First row here.

[00:13:48]Keep until I announce another row.

[00:13:57]Second row.

[00:14:06]Keep your hands up until Third row.

[00:14:20]Those standing, you can first hold on. I will take another count.

[00:14:28]So, if you are in the gallery and you want to vote, please you come down.

[00:14:38]Third Third row, keep your hands up.

[00:14:43]Fourth row.

[00:14:53]Yes.

[00:14:57]And the fifth row at the back.

[00:15:14]And the standing row.

[00:15:26]>> Okay.

[00:15:27]You are voting for approval of the vice president. Just in case you just came in.

[00:15:35]And here This way they are done?

[00:15:44]There are those who have just come.

[00:15:47]Honorable C. Senamuddiwa and the group and the and honorable Msasizi and honorable Ngola and Busia municipality Show their hand. Show their hand.

[00:16:07]It's not anything that we want. There is a winner or loser.

[00:16:12]It's just a requirement for simple majority for those who are present.

[00:16:16]Which I know we have it has already superceded.

[00:16:28]You are done?

[00:16:45]I know honorable Rona is in the gallery.

[00:16:47]I can see honorable Faith.

[00:16:50]Honorable Catherine Achola, honorable Charity I can see honorable Brenda Honorable honorable Nabpok Nangoli Mbale There are several.

[00:17:08]This is overwhelming.

[00:17:17]Honorable Owuor Owuor a wall.

[00:17:22]Betty Yes, honorable Segumire.

[00:17:32]Honorable Amelia is here. She has Okay.

[00:17:38]So, can we We we we want those who have not raised their hands.

[00:17:57]Those against we could also find out because you may Let's know.

[00:18:07]Let's Let's begin those who are against on this row.

[00:18:11]The first row.

[00:18:15]Honorable Joel, I know you are going to vote no.