Nasheed’s revisionist claims trade historical rigor for provocative rhetoric, relying on speculative logic that contradicts extensive archival evidence. This narrative functions more as an ideological tool for identity construction than a factual contribution to the study of African-American lineage.
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Tariq Nasheed Destroys Pan African's False History Claims
Added:Mr. Oru, pop hop on in, sir.
>> Yeah, last time you called me a teller.
What is What is that exactly? Tell >> Now, I don't remember speaking with you last time. What did we talk about last time? [snorts] >> Cuz I was from I was from Jacksonville, Florida, and you was telling me that I was uh my people. You didn't know, but you were saying I was >> Were you the teacher?
>> Exactly.
>> Okay. This was the Yeah, cuz you were talking about Carmelo deserve to go to prison cuz Yeah. You sound like a tether. That's what tethers say. Tether say [ __ ] like that.
>> Yeah, but yeah, he he deserved consequences. I didn't think he was going to get 35 years for murder. I I think >> Yeah, you were caping. You were caping [clears throat] for white supremacists.
That the Medcaf family, a bunch of damn white supremacists, sir.
>> So, usually tethers cape for them, sir, cuz it ain't in our spirit to do that as foundational black America.
>> No. What What is a tether?
>> A tether is somebody like you who pretends to be of the lineage, but they're not. Most likely you're from the Bahamas or some [ __ ] that your family is somewhere from the Caribbean.
>> No, my lineage my line is chased back through Georgia through uh Charleston, South Carolina.
>> Really?
>> Exactly. Through West Africa.
>> Through West Africa >> through the transatlantic slave trade.
>> Right.
>> That's reality.
>> That's the reality.
>> That's the reality. And >> what what country in Africa your family from?
>> We have no clue.
>> Right. Because we're foundational, sir.
We we our lineage goes our lineage goes further than modern African nation states right now.
>> Okay. The the the issue is >> what's the issue sir?
>> Mr. Oru, what's going on with your phone, brother? Did you drop some bush meat on >> South Georgia? No.
>> He said his his grandma was Native American.
>> Who? Who? Who?
>> Okay, that's true. A lot of black folks >> Slow down. Slow down. I don't know. Your phone went out and I don't understand what you're saying. Now, who's in Who's from Florida? Who's from Georgia?
>> My My grandfather.
Your grandfather's from Georgia.
>> From Georgia. Exactly. And his grandmother >> is full-blooded Native American. So, we know that there are plenty African-Americans, majority of African-Americans that have Native American ancestry, just like we have some white ancestry. But to say but to say that there's a whole uh genetic Afric genetic not because you don't like Africa genetic black tribe or something over in in North America. That's BS.
That's distortion.
>> How so? When there's proof of it.
>> There's a mixture. There's a mixture through through history. We know. I I know. I look at myself. I I can tell that I have like Native American in me.
My grandfather, he was jet black, but his his his um he told me his great-grandmother was jet black, but [snorts] she was Native American, right?
>> She had long silk hair silky hair.
>> There's a lot of them, right? Okay.
>> You're proving my point.
>> But she was Native American, >> right? You're proving my point.
>> She wasn't black.
>> You just said she was jet black.
She wasn't. She was dark.
>> Okay. Changing it up. You proving my point, sir. Yes, >> she wasn't.
>> You are pro. I know. Dude, I I grew Listen, sir. I grew up in LA. I ain't say nothing about Africa.
>> I didn't say Africa.
>> There were Native Americans, and I've seen them with my own eyes all in Alabama. Pure Native Americans. Jet damn black. Sir, I've seen them. Dark.
Okay. Okay. Okay.
>> I'm talking about black as a shoe. I mean, black, dark, dark black, >> right?
>> Full Native American.
>> You You hearing colors, you know the history, but we can't distort the history.
>> What's distorting the history? And you're proving what I'm saying, sir.
>> Listen, all over the planet, we know that there are indigenous darkkinned people, >> right? Who they would call negritos.
>> We know that. I'm not getting into Elijah Muhammad, nothing like that. and no fantasy knowledge yourself.
But there there are dark fe people from Fiji that's dark.
I've been there. I've seen them. I know they're they're they're the original um uh Asians, Chinese look just like a just look exactly like a African tribe.
>> Right. You're proving my point.
The the point is those are over time those are different people where so they had an ethnogenesis and explain that ethnogenesis to me.
>> You what you just said over time they become a different people. That's what an ethnogenesis is, right?
Mr. Oruru, I don't know. He must be googling some. I think he's googling what ethnogenesis means. He's He put me on hold. He's on hold.
>> Right here.
>> Did you Google ethnogenesis?
>> No, I I I didn't yet because I don't want to put you on hold. Right.
>> I know. I know there's a possibility that I I had a book early, Ramsi and the link between South America and and Egypt and Egypt with the old >> No, now we're just going all over the place. Let's let's bring it back with old MC heads and all of that.
>> Let's reel it back. Let's reel it. You just acknowledged that Fijians, people in Fiji look like DNA, >> but they they what >> there's there's specs of DNA throughout North America. But to say that there's a whole ethnic tribe of of Africans and no slave trade, that's that's BS. That's distortion.
>> I didn't say a tribe of Africans and no slave trade. I didn't say that. What are you talking about? You you said it's not you said slaves slaver slavery was a minimum of of black folks that came that way >> they brought out of all the millions of people that they brought to North America this is very well do it less than 6% this ain't me they documented everybody who came over who was brought over the number they had >> over time >> it was like it was like >> three million three million total in in the 1700s or something like that >> not not North America not here. It was no 3 million total.
But over over with the cotton gin, I I talked to >> Listen listen. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Listen what I'm saying. Listen to me.
You think they brought 3 million people over here from Africa on a boat in the span of 200 years? Yes. Okay. Let's look at 200 years. It takes 9 to 10 months one way to get here on a boat from Africa in the 1700s.
How many people you think was in that damn boat?
[snorts] >> The middle passage 300.
Let's say it was 300. It wasn't them many people, but let's say it was a boat full of 300 people.
>> 200.
>> Yeah. Let's just go Let's go with a high number. Let's say a boat with 300 people on the bottom came and it took 9 months one way to take 300 people from Africa to the America.
How many trips would that take to get up to 3 million?
3,000.
That's a damn lot. That's a lot. They didn't make them any damn trips, sir.
That's logistically impossible.
>> N that that that was going on. It was a whole system. You talking about two decades, >> 3,000 trips. You talking about >> that takes nine months each.
>> You you So you saying Malcolm X and all of that is a as >> No, no, no, no. We're talking math now.
We're just talking mathematics, sir.
>> It's it's you can pull it up. You can >> just talking mathematics.
>> Okay. You can Google search this yourself. They got documents from every thousand years for that to happen. Over.
It would take thousands of years for that to happen in those numbers to bring 3 million people over here in a boat that 9 to 10 months one way. Our mind just waking up within the past 50 60 years. But people been educated way back there in the 16 1700s. This stuff is well doc documented as far as cargo.
They had all they had a list of all the cargo all up and down the all up and down not just North America but central and south America. I'm sure you came across the book um we the black Jews or something like that by the Nation of Islam.
>> You're all over the place now brother documented where it's documented.
>> You're just throwing stuff on the wall right now brother cuz you know though that math wasn't math and you you figured out that math wasn't math. Nah.
200 times 200 times 3,000. What you talking? You talking about a whole system of whole lifestyle. You talking about just just like me and you talking getting up and going to work tomorrow.
Whatever. That was the reality. People are getting up, going to work as a slave trader, as a merchant.
That was their job. That was their life.
[music] All right, brother. [applause] Thank you so much.
>> Okay. Yeah, he went on and tapped on out. Yeah, he he went on and tapped on out and just start tether babbling. He just started throwing crap on the wall cuz he he realized that math didn't really math like he thought it was going to math.
Yeah. When you start when you start looking at the logistics and the it didn't take no damn who said three month it didn't take no damn three months it was like six seven eight nine months family. Yeah. That took a long time for them to go back and forth.
You understand?
Logistically and numerically that don't add up.
That doesn't add up. Ladies and gentlemen, you didn't.
They didn't bring all them people over here on no damn boat.
That's mathematically impossible with those numbers.
Come on, man.
Let's stop playing. And when you just break it down and just start looking at the logistics of it, we see what makes sense and what doesn't make sense. Yeah. It would just be easier for them to say, "Hey, you over there in that village, that tribe, you're a negro. Come on over here, man.
We got you. Just get on that plantation.
You're you're a mulatto."
Yeah.
That that was simpler than a 9mon boat ride.
You dig? where you getting sick on the boat and you got to go negotiate or it's very easy to say, "Hey, we'll just get one of these people from these tribes and put them on a plantation."
Yeah.
Yeah. Now, I'm not because there are people who say the [ __ ] just the the slave trade by boat didn't happen at all. I'm not saying that because there are documents. Yeah. I'm saying yeah, the the trade did happen by boat. They were bringing people here by boat, not in the large numbers that they tried to lie about. It wasn't large numbers. It just wasn't.
That's my argument. Now, if somebody else has another argument, that's fine.
That's that's what it is. It don't change lineage, though. All right? That don't change lineage.
All right?
But let's just be very, very real.
All right?
Let me see.
All right, raise your hand, family. Let me get you up in here. Shout out to everybody in here. Yeah. And and and that's just giving a high number.
If it were 300 people on a boat, which that's the high number. That's on the high end.
But no, no, no, no.
All right, let's see who we got. What's up, Panamera? How you doing, beloved?
Yeah. Now, because I'm This dude, he kept actually proving my point. He like, "Well, I know some very dark Indians.
They ain't African." Yeah, that's the point, [ __ ] That's what we're saying.
That's what we're saying.
But, but there's some other dark peoples that is in uh Fiji. They dark, too.
Yeah.
where they they they they are different people over time. They become a different people. Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what we're saying, sir.
The guy kept trying to debunk but kept proving the point. Yes, sir. You are talking about an ethnogenesis.
He put me on pause and had to look it up. That's why he had me on hold. He was looking up what ethnogenesis mean.
So this guy sat here and debunked himself.
Yeah. That's why if you just sloww walk him just like the Gulligi guy, he debunked himself.
You just let them talk and just be very logical. They'll debunk themselves, man.
That's why they they get quiet.
Yeah. No. No. We ain't getting Well, didn't you make a movie? We ain't No, no, no, no, no. That's not good. He getting into personal occupations. We're talking about lineage. Let's stick to lineage. All that other [ __ ] is a smoke screen. Let's stick to lineage cuz sound like he's about to say, "Well, you know what? Ethnogenesis is a clause." That just a clause. You talking about a clause.
Good lord.
Let me take me a sip of my water. What my lady in here doing? My lady Lexi, what you doing in there?
Get my lady rumaging around out here.
All right, let's get those hands up.
All right, raise your hand in the comments, family. Let's get you up here.
We having a good conversation tonight.
We having good talk.
Let's get KW. Where you at, KW?
KW in the building.
KW, who is that?
>> What up, Tariq?
>> Hey, Kdub. How you doing, fam?
>> Damn, [ __ ] Finally. [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm going to get Carpon to [ __ ] with you.
>> But I didn't I didn't know you trying to get him. How you doing, brother?
>> I'm [snorts] good, man. Um, look, man.
To be honest, I'm tired of dealing with these tethers, man. This dude, that last dude you had up there, the way he said tether, you could tell he was a tether.
[laughter] >> It's like, man, >> that's a giveaway. When they're offended by the word tether, if you're offended by the word tether, you're usually a tether.
Tariq Tariq, look, man. I'm We better than these [ __ ] I'm telling you that now. As as a group, FBA [ __ ] we we the number one black people on this planet. We done gave this country, this this world, everything that they got, they done got from us.
>> Mhm.
>> So, it's like, stop stop sitting over here trying to explain to these [ __ ] who we are and all this [ __ ] We know who we are. All we got to live is in our truth. And trust me, everything else is going to fall into place. No doubt, my man. Thank you so much, K. I appreciate you. Vicious Venicious.
>> Yo, what's up, bro?
>> How you doing? Um, you're Haitian, right?
>> Nah, no, my people's from Louisiana, bro. My grandma Creo. Oh, >> okay. There you go. Okay. What's on your mind, >> man? You know, I was listening to y'all talk, bro. And, uh, people love to bring up like the 1700s, 1800s. So, I started looking into America history in the 1400s, the 1500s, bro. And it blew my mind. Like, it was undeniable.
So, I found out the first person to ever go to court and own a slave for life was a black man. They said he was an African man in his name was Anthony Johnson. I'm like, yo, what what African dude named Anthony Johnson? And why was a black dude in court in the 1600s? And why did a black dude beat white people in the court in the 1600s? And why did he, you know what I mean? And I found out we had more rights in the 1500s and 1600s than we had in the 1700s and 1800s. Bro, we had rights over here. How could we have rights in the place to where they brought us to?
>> Well, the thing is, um, Anthony Johnson, that was a he was a I think he was probably from Angola. Portuguese had enslaved them and the the um English pirates many of them were intercepting Portuguese ships and taking that's why you have a lot of people who were brought over here early on in the early 1600s they had like u Portuguese names but before that the white supremacists like to say that he was the first so-called slave owner he wasn't there was a person named Hugh Gwyn who um had a slave named John Punch before that. So, there were white tea people who were owning slaves before Anthony Johnson. They just like to throw that lie out there to make it seem like black people were just as complicit.
>> It's It's not really the slave owner thing. It was the fact that he was in court, bro. It's the fact that he was in court and he won a court >> because he was he was an indentured servant himself. Mr. Anthony Johnson was an indentured servant. And um afterwards, they took all of his property later. they started having these draconian laws to snap down on the black population in the mid600s because um at the time black people were land owners and all that but then there was a rebellion called Bacon's rebellion where black and white people got together and fought against the white elite so they start making up these racial categories and racialized laws to disenranchise the black population to use the poor whites as a buffer class.
So we got to put all of that in the right context.
>> All right.
All right. And also in the the 1600s they had laws saying that if you are the child of a of an Indian woman or an indigenous woman you could not be enslaved. This is what they were using later on in the 17 and 1800s. They were using the law from the 1600s because again all they started to do when the English came they started to reclassify natives as Negroes and this is why they didn't want us to read because we start learning the laws and saying wait a minute I just saw that there's a law saying if your mother or your grandmother whatever was an Indian you couldn't be enslaved. Well I don't know they didn't call me some [ __ ] like a mulatto or whatever. I don't know what that is, but I'm from that tribe and that's how people would get their freedom. So, it's it's deep. It's very deep history.
All right.
All right. Let me get some more people in here.
Let's get Pony.
Um, Pony Boy.
Yo, Pony.
That sound like a punk. Um, Coco. What's up, Coco?
Coco.
All right, Coco ain't saying nothing.
Let me get you out of here, Coco. All right, let's try it this way. Let's There you go. Raise your hand. Let's get those hands raised. Let's get the hands raised up, ladies and gentlemen, and we'll get you in like that. Let's get Tommy in here. Tommy, hop on in, sir.
Let's raise those hands, and we'll get you in like that. Tony, what's up, Tony?
Tommy. Tommy, I'm sorry.
>> Hey, Flex. How you doing?
>> I'm good. Tommy, how you doing, brother?
>> I'm doing good, man. I got I got something I wanted to say, man. You know, a lot of times I listen to these people and they quote American history, but a lot of American history is a damn lie.
Yeah. You know, and and that's the part that I think need to be straightened out, man, because it's too many lies.
That's what makes the truth like um unbelievable, if you get what I'm saying. When you start telling the truth, people like, "Oh, that that that only makes sense. That's crazy." But it's actually the truth, >> you know? That's why we going back and forth about this Indian talk and all this little crazy [ __ ] when they look just like we look. That That's what they look like.
>> Yeah.
>> And another thing, this my last thing, Flex, I think we need to find a way to add gatekeeping to the culture, man.
Because, bro, it's a must now, man.
>> It's a real must. That's all I got to say, champ. There you go. Thank you so much, brother. I appreciate you.
>> All right. All right. Let's get um Let's get those hands up in the comments.
Let's get those hands up in the comments, ladies and gentlemen.
All right. Yeah, there's a lot of the history that we don't know about.
A lot of stuff is buried. A lot of stuff we we're not familiar with. Um let's see.
Let's see.
But [snorts] um it's very important that we understand the history because what happens is people start lying just like these tethers. They start lying and if they just keep lying over and over again unchallenged the lie becomes the truth. They take on the same mindset of the white supremacist.
The the white supremacists just start doing all this incessant lying and if you don't challenge that it just becomes the truth. People just accept it as truth. What's up, Breeze Omega?
Breeze Omega. And we know the white supremacists are pathological liars.
All right, Breeze. What's up, Breeze?
>> Breeze.
>> What's good, Tariq? Can you hear me?
>> I can hear you, brother. How are you?
>> What's good, my good brother? Um, I'm just saying as somebody who's um I currently live in Virginia. My family, my daddy's from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. My mother, >> my mama, Elizabeth City, North Carolina.
Um, I'm just saying I grew up in Hempstead Long Island and on Long Island all the Indians were never red. They were all black.
>> Yep.
>> Oh yeah. Flavor Flave. Do y'all know Flavor Flave is indigenous? His name was indigenous. [clears throat] >> Yes sir.
>> Yeah.
>> Yes sir. Yeah. So like all the black people out in Wine Dance, Amville, K Swag, all these people are the natives that were already living there. Part of my family is from that lineage. So when people talk about that, I've never seen a red native. All the natives on Long Island were black people. So people constantly forget this notion and they have this idea that we all came from Africa. Even if that was the case, the um white supremacists in their own right say that only about 3.5% made it here. We do that. They say 3 million from the transatlantic um slave.
That's 350,000 people possibly made it here. And then and that's basically what it is. So that guy was way on point. I appreciate everything you do for us, Flex. And yeah, I'm out, my man. Respect it. Respect it out. All right, Cool Breeze, the original Cool Breeze, hop on in. Cool Breeze, you said. Uh, hop on.
You got to say what you got to say in the in the queue.
Cool Breeze, I I invited you up.
Cool breeze, I want you to get on up because you saying some very interesting things in the chat. So, let's And you ain't got no followers.
So, maybe you're just saying stuff for attention. Okay. Yeah. When you say something egregious and you ain't got no followers and you won't get up and say it, usually that's a punk who just wants some attention.
All right.
Let me see.
All right.
Yeah, the tethers really hate the fact that we can also claim indigenous ancestry. They really don't like that because that takes us all the way out of the whole de facto immigrant thing. See, they want to make it seem like slavery was a deacto form of immigration. They want to make it seem like, "Yeah, y'all were brought here. Y'all were brought over here." No, some of us were already here. Uh-uh.
Uhhuh. Yeah, we were.
Yeah, we've been here way too long to not have mixed in with the indigenous population or not have some indigenous ancestry. It It's impossible for us to be here this long.
Yeah.
Because now that completely takes us out of the whole forced immigration narrative that they like to try to crowbar. We are not immigrants in any sense of the word.
We're just not.
And all of that pretending talk, that's a shaming tactic. That ain't going to work. That's not going to change history. That's not going to change lineage. In fact, most of us when we do lineage um research, when we research our lineage, we will run into an indigenous person before we run into Africans.
Why you bullshitting?
We will, if we trace our paperwork back, dude, I'm talking personally, we'll hit some tribes before we hit a an indigenous tribe here before we hit an African one.
If we hit one African, yeah, a lot of us, you there is no paperwork showing any African anything.
You understand?
For a lot of people. Now, I have seen some people where some of their documents in some cases said, "Okay, African." I've seen some I've seen some documents.
But when you go to plantations, go down to plantations in Louisiana, they'll list the names of the people on the plantations, it's very interesting.
They have categories for the ones who were brought over from Africa and the ones who are already here. I've seen that on plantations in Louisiana.
They'll have Yeah, he came from Angola.
Um um Jimmy that was an American negro or indigenous negro. They they have stuff like at that at those plantations.
They make a distinction.
Yeah, it's very interesting. Yeah, it's very very interesting, man.
But yeah, down in Louisiana, you know, they're really tapped into the culture. That's why they got Why do you think they got the black Migro Indians?
They got the black Migro Indians for a reason. because they know their history.
They They're very familiar with their history down there.
Excuse [clears throat] me.
Man, let me see.
Let me see.
All right. Let me get Let's get one more in here. We get one more in here because we got a lot of people in here. Respect to the family.
Respect to the family. Do y'all want do y'all want me to stay longer or do we need to give one more? If y'all want me to stay longer, we can do what? 30 more minutes. Y'all got to throw some gifts up. If y'all want me to hang out with you a little bit more, if y'all want y'all want me to stay a little longer, we do. Come on. Let's throw some gifts up. Let's see how Let's get some gifts up in the room then. All right, let's get some gifts up in the room then. If we're going to do it like that, let's put some cakes on it. Right.
There's some chains and throw some more gifts. Not not just some roses now.
Let's throw some lightning bolts. Throw some spaceships up in there. Throw some lollipops. All that [ __ ] y'all be throwing up. Let's get it. Yes. Yes.
Yes. Lollipop. So good. M. Yummy cake.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Money gun. Oh yes.
Boxing glove. Punch. Punch. Punch. Come on now.
Lightning bolt.
I give you the sound effects. Let's get it popping. [ __ ] Heart. Love. Love.
Love.
[laughter] Oh god. Let's get this. All right. Let's get it popping.
Let's [clears throat] get this thing popping.
All right. Let's get some of the family in here. Who is that? What's up, Miss Knight? Somebody named Miss Knight something. Get on in here, beloved.
Then let's get Kofio. Copio.
Miss [clears throat] Knight, Night.
>> Hey, Tariq. How you doing?
>> Hey, how you doing, below?
>> Pretty good. Pretty good. Um, I wanted to say something to that Haitian you had up here earlier, the one that was working at uh Amazon.
>> Yes.
>> Our president just said on the world stage that Haitians have AIDS and they've brought AIDS to our country.
>> Oh, damn. To me, that was a dog whistle to other countries that will be accepting Haitians. So, he should really be concerned about that. That was said on the world stage tonight. That that was said tonight, fam.
>> I got him here. Cliff, hop over in, Cliff.
Cliff, unmute your mic. Cliff.
Okay. He He's pack Okay. I tried to bring him back up. He's um boxing up some Amazon orders right now, but Yeah.
But go ahead, beloved. Go ahead.
>> Yes. So that our president made that announcement tonight just out of nowhere.
>> Wow.
>> Just said it.
>> Wow.
>> So now they're all in a tizzy, but I mean their main concern should be about that. I mean, how are they going to move around knowing now that um our president made that announcement they that they are carrying a disease and they're spreading it around? And he basically just said that they're the reason why the numbers are up.
>> Oh, damn.
>> They're the reason.
>> Damn. So, I just wanted to come up here and say that and I wanted to know how he felt about that, but I guess he's not in the mood to talk, but you could drop me, Tyreek. Thank you.
>> Thank you, beloved. Thank you, dear.
>> Electric rude work. [music] Electric rude work. [music] [music] Electric road.
Electric road. [music] [music] Hey, [music] [music] hey, hey.
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