THE WHEEL OF WIENERS EPISODE 1

[00:00:00]Wheel, wheel, wheel, wheel. No, NO.

[00:00:06]WHEN I put him on here, I didn't have to think I didn't think I would actually have to watch him. What have I done?

[00:00:12]Obama.

[00:00:13]>> So, I've been hard at work at new technologies, new innovations.

[00:00:19]Needless to say, I've reinvented the wheel, if you know what I'm saying. Now it's the wheel of wieners and we're going to spin to figure out what we're watching tonight. Okay, the spin of three and it decides what? Watch will we? She vibecoded this. I typed in the names in wheelmaker.com or spinthewheel.io.

[00:00:42]Okay, I don't vibe code anything. I only vibe. I just think it's useful because sometimes there's just too much to keep up with. Okay, and it's nice to have some variation. It's nice to have a little element of randomness to to change things up. Are you guys ready to spin the wheel and figure out what we're being tortured with right now? We It doesn't matter if you're ready. Ah, [ __ ] Jesse Lee Peterson. Listen, he can he can come out with some [ __ ] bangers sometimes, man. I don't have any rules on how much we're watching or what I'm doing. We're We're just going to pick a video. If it's boring, we'll skip it.

[00:01:25]And we watch until I'm done and I'm bored. Um, man, he's not doing anything.

[00:01:30]He's not doing anything interesting at all. He's talking to best-selling authors Dr. Brad and Jean Nelson. Laura, how Laura, how am I supposed to make a video without any content? Not Tommy Robinson, dude. I can't with Tommy Robinson. That's just going to be a full [ __ ] mess. Only Fans model/gamer stunned Jesse during interview. All right, let's try that one.

[00:01:53]Sorry. [ __ ] Chad Warden jump scare.

[00:01:58]>> I have with me today Tara Backop. She is a Twitch streamer and YouTuber. Car, thank you so much for coming on. I app >> for mature audiences only. He just puts that on the screen. What does he think that does? You're also a Twitch streamer and YouTuber. Yeah, we have a lot in common. That's why I wanted to see this one. I feel represented.

[00:02:17]>> Appreciate it.

[00:02:18]>> Thank you.

[00:02:18]>> I'm also a gamer. I'm not a model though. so much for having me.

[00:02:21]>> I noticed uh there's on Tara YouTube channel your bio describe you this way.

[00:02:28]It says body of star of a star, mind of a philosopher and heart of a gamer.

[00:02:39]Okay, I don't know if Jesse Lee Peterson is ready for this man. I think her power level might be too [ __ ] high for him.

[00:02:45]Holy [ __ ] This is amazing. This is perfect.

[00:02:48]>> Can you explain that to me? What is the body of a porn star first?

[00:02:54]>> Um, stereotypically someone who uh wears a lot of makeup and has plastic surgery to look kind of >> Impulse Gamer presents Terra's G-spot.

[00:03:05]Gamer spot >> of like fantasy, I would say.

[00:03:09]>> Do you believe in open relationships?

[00:03:12]>> I was in an open relationship for over 10 years. So I do I do but I don't at the same time.

[00:03:21]>> You look like an alpha male kind of a woman. I can't imagine you with a beta male. It would be too boring for you.

[00:03:28]>> It definitely would be too boring for me.

[00:03:30]>> Wow. Amazing. And so you can't tell me if you now your present boyfriend is an apple or beta.

[00:03:39]>> I'm just not going to talk about him at all. But we just talked about what I would and wouldn't be with.

[00:03:44]Well, I can I can assume that he is an alpha male since you're still with him for so long.

[00:03:50]>> Yeah, I guess. Yes.

[00:03:52]>> So, exactly. What is an only fan? I'm learning a lot. I learned >> Okay, shut the [ __ ] up. Can you please show me how does this work?

[00:04:02]>> A lot from you already just by going over your your material last night. What is an bro only uh fan page?

[00:04:15]>> So, it's kind of like a Patreon, but it's more geared toward like uh nudity, sex work, stuff like that. And um so you you pay >> absolute professional, by the way, >> to be on there, kind of like Patreon.

[00:04:26]And you see like the main feed, but then you can also like supplement your income by sending extra things through messages that they have to unlock with extra money. So, it's kind of like a good platform for that kind of thing, for the tease, >> right?

[00:04:38]>> And for the sexy stuff.

[00:04:40]>> And so, is it uh pornography?

[00:04:44]>> Uh, I think it's a subset of pornography usually.

[00:04:47]>> Is he high as [ __ ] right now? No, he's just like 80 years old, I think. I mean, he might be on like prescription medication or something, but he's kind of always been like this. He's 77.

[00:04:57]>> There are some people on there that just do regular content, but it's it's mostly sexy stuff >> really. And so do you >> That wasn't necessary at all to put in there.

[00:05:07]>> Take you get naked on your only fan page.

[00:05:10]>> I do.

[00:05:11]>> You do? How much does it cost to get you to get >> Wait, why did he censor it one time but not the second time?

[00:05:19]>> Well, that's a complicated question, but um I mean sometimes >> Oh, yeah. Sorry, that was really gross.

[00:05:24]I was just I was surprised by the censoring.

[00:05:27]>> Send out uh unlockable messages that are like 10 bucks. Other times I'll fund raise and I'll get a couple thousand for like a really big set or something and I do that usually once a month.

[00:05:37]>> Whoa, that's amazing. And so I know you don't want to talk about your boyfriend, but yes and no. Is he okay with this?

[00:05:47]>> Oh my god. And then she's going to be like, "Yeah, he's fine with it because it's my job." And he'll be like, "Amaze."

[00:05:53]>> Uh, yes. I would not be with someone who wasn't okay with me making my own money, especially because of how much I make.

[00:06:00]It would just be illogical. It would be an illogical amount of jealousy >> at that point.

[00:06:05]>> Yeah. And does he ever show a little jealousy like, you know what, I wish you wouldn't take it all the way off.

[00:06:13]>> Ew. What What jealousy is there to be had? What is there? She's not gonna [ __ ] the Only Fans subscribers or get in a relationship with them.

[00:06:25]Listen, sorry. If if you're subscribed to Only Fans, uh they actually do really like you. And as long as you have boundaries, you definitely have a chance, you should give them money.

[00:06:36]>> I don't know. He He's pretty laid-back.

[00:06:38]>> Oh, he is.

[00:06:40]>> That's all you get. Stop asking about him.

[00:06:42]>> I know. What other question about that?

[00:06:44]And then it won't be about him. It's about you. How did you meet a guy that's so willing to go along with you on this?

[00:06:50]>> Dude, it really doesn't take much, man.

[00:06:52]It just does. It men I feel like do not care that much.

[00:06:56]>> Um I almost hate to ask you this, but I need to know, right? Uh on your only fan page.

[00:07:03]How do I >> I don't think he hates to ask her anything.

[00:07:06]>> Make this clean cuz you're such a nice lady. You're not like a Amber Rose. If this was Amber Rose, I'd be, you know, um >> Ask me anything. Don't sugar.

[00:07:16]>> What if if she was Amber Rose, then what? What does that have to do with anything? Huh?

[00:07:23]>> Okay. So, on your only fan page, do you like act out sex? Do they want you to act out as well?

[00:07:31]>> Uh, they want me to. I draw the line at anything that would make me or someone else. So, well, not someone watching, but someone who's with me. So, I I don't do any masturbation. No actual sex, nothing like that. No, none of the actual stuff. I'm more just like a, you know, softcore non penet stuff.

[00:07:53]>> Oh, I see. Would you do it if the mighty was right? God damn, dude. Come on.

[00:07:59]>> No, I wouldn't. I would do it >> there. There's like very few things that would make me do it. It's not really about money.

[00:08:06]>> I don't know what I expected. I thought he would be more like, you know, you're going to hell and what you're doing is wrong and it would be more like a debate, but he just like wants to know how Only Fans works. This is [ __ ] crazy.

[00:08:17]>> For me, it's like I like sex so much that I don't want to turn it into a job.

[00:08:22]And one of the things that's hottest about me like having sex with someone is that no one really knows my O face. Like my face in real life. Like it's like the the fans don't know the O face. It's only the people in real life who do.

[00:08:37]>> Amazing. So, you have her old faith.

[00:08:39]>> Like, that's Oh, god damn.

[00:08:43]Yeah, she's an icon and is handling this so professionally and he's just like, "Oh, okay. So, you orgasm. What is that?

[00:08:52]>> Can we get a little example of your own face?"

[00:08:57]>> No.

[00:08:58]>> What the [ __ ] does that even mean?

[00:09:12]Don't look at the explosion, chat. It'll blind you.

[00:09:15]>> Oh, >> very secret. O face.

[00:09:18]>> Chris, would you let your >> face?

[00:09:19]>> I'm sure all of you guys there have an O face, too. Everyone has an O face. Come on.

[00:09:25]He is the uh only fan uh a positive of negative influence on society.

[00:09:33]>> Okay, here we go. Finally, let's talk about some [ __ ] debate topics and not not what an orgasm is or what Only Fans is and how it works.

[00:09:41]>> That's a tough one. Um I don't know. I would say it's just different. It's just like societyy's always evolving and you can always find a reason that something might be a detriment or a benefit.

[00:09:55]>> I love her pleasure.

[00:09:55]>> It's hard to say.

[00:09:56]>> Yeah.

[00:09:58]>> You ever think about that?

[00:10:00]>> No. I I don't think it's hard to say for Jesse, though. I think he knows. I think he knows exactly the right answer here.

[00:10:07]>> No.

[00:10:09]>> Amazing.

[00:10:10]>> I mean, not in terms of like whether or not it would change my mind. Definitely not. Um, I'm more I'm more I'm more toward people just being able to do whatever they want and if they have to grow new ways of coping with it, then that they're just getting stronger.

[00:10:25]>> Yeah.

[00:10:26]>> Honestly, so whatever you have to do to cope with it and still have a healthy mindset.

[00:10:29]>> Have you ever seen an ape turn into a human being?

[00:10:32]>> I was when I watched the stuff last night, I was thinking about another woman that I interviewed by the name of Amber Rose. Are you familiar with her?

[00:10:40]>> I am kind of. and she started the [ __ ] walk and the reason for according to Amarose is to take away the shame of being a what do you think about that um I'm not into the hyper feminist stuff I I kind of think that uh you know there like societyy's going to do what society wants so if you try to say like hey society stop thinking this or that like it's >> all right I think now is a good time to just go ahead and eject on this one Um, this is more what I'm looking for from Jesse Lee Peterson. Something like this.

[00:11:19]>> You wrote a book called We Are All Apes.

[00:11:23]>> That's correct.

[00:11:24]>> Where's your proof that we are all apes?

[00:11:27]>> What is an ape?

[00:11:29]>> Right. What is an ape?

[00:11:30]>> Right. An ape is any member of the taxonomic super family homoidia.

[00:11:34]>> Amazing. Have you ever seen a human being turned into you ever seen an ape?

[00:11:40]Have you ever seen an ape turn into a human being?

[00:11:44]>> Like this is Jesse Lee Peterson at his absolute peak, man. You can't dominate this force. This is the greatest debater on the internet, I think.

[00:11:52]>> Have I ever seen a dog turn into a dachshund?

[00:11:54]>> No. Have you ever seen an ape turn into a human being?

[00:11:57]>> Have I ever seen a a a car turn into a Corvette?

[00:12:00]>> Are you Can you hear me?

[00:12:02]>> Yeah. Have I ever seen a shark turn into >> No, you don't understand. You're getting the question wrong. I didn't ask that >> fish.

[00:12:07]>> I didn't ask about any of those things.

[00:12:09]I asked when have you ever seen an ape turn into a human being?

[00:12:14]>> I'm trying to illustrate the fallacy of your question.

[00:12:17]>> How's that fallacy? You wrote that we're all ape. You must have at some point all these hundreds and thousands of years at some point you would have seen illustrated if an ape turned into a human being. Have you ever seen an ape turn into a human being?

[00:12:37]>> Once again, humans are apes in the same way that a duck is a bird. So, if you ask me if I've ever seen a bird turn into a duck, that's kind of a stupid question. We're asking >> because I didn't ask that. I didn't ask.

[00:12:53]I ask you I asked you ask ask I ask >> have you ever seen an ape turn into a human?

[00:13:01]>> I don't know what all that was. He was just recalibrating.

[00:13:04]>> That is a nonsense question.

[00:13:06]>> Why?

[00:13:06]>> This is why I think the entire format of debate is functionally pointless because if you're willing to play dumb enough and audiences genuinely don't give a [ __ ] If you're willing to play dumb enough, you always win. [ __ ] Socrates never thought about that one. Okay.

[00:13:22]Neither did Plato.

[00:13:24]>> I was there.

[00:13:25]>> Because it's like asking for a place halfway between Los Angeles and California.

[00:13:29]>> No, it's not. I didn't ask about that.

[00:13:31]>> Yeah, I know. Well, you don't know what you asked.

[00:13:33]>> I do know. You wrote a book called We Are All Apes. And it gives the proof.

[00:13:38]>> I'm asking, have you personally seen a human being, an ape turn into a human being?

[00:13:45]>> Who won this though? Jesse Lee Peterson won this. He wins. He [ __ ] destroys.

[00:13:49]He does this for like 10 minutes. It would be impossible for a human being to be anything other than an ape for the same reason that it is impossible for a dachshund to be anything for a but a dog. Have you ever seen a dog turn into a dachshund?

[00:14:03]>> Why are you running from that question?

[00:14:04]>> I'm not. I'm answering that question.

[00:14:06]I'm illustrating question. You're running from that question. You wrote the wheel.

[00:14:11]>> I'm facing you head on answering your question directly. No, you're not.

[00:14:15]Humans are a subset of the category of apes.

[00:14:18]>> I didn't ask you that. We start.

[00:14:21]So therefore, it is nons. It makes no sense to ask.

[00:14:24]>> Have you ever seen a rectangle turn into a square? No, that's not the question.

[00:14:29]>> You're not you don't get it.

[00:14:30]>> Subcategory. It is exactly the same as asking if I've ever seen a bird turn into a duck.

[00:14:37]Do you understand why the why the qu why your question? Have you ever seen a bird turn into a duck? How about I ask?

[00:14:42]>> But that wasn't a question.

[00:14:44]>> It's also really funny because you could answer this really simply by just playing the same game. You got to play a mind game back. You got to answer with a riddle. Basically, we we've never turned into human beings. We're We're apes the whole time.

[00:14:57]I would win. We're already apes. We don't turn into them. We're already apes. That's not the question, though.

[00:15:03]>> But that but that's the same question, isn't it?

[00:15:07]>> Then he'd say, "Amazing."

[00:15:09]>> I'd say, "No, I've never seen an ape turn into a human being because we're apes from the time we're born. God made us apes." I think he would get that. We all you tried to divert.

[00:15:19]>> You tried to deviate from the question.

[00:15:21]You wrote a book called We Are All Apes.

[00:15:25]And so, how did how can you write a book that says we're all ape? Well, you never seen a h ape turn into a human being.

[00:15:33]>> Have you ever seen a duck turn into a Have you ever seen a bird turn into a duck?

[00:15:37]>> Why are you dodging the question, man?

[00:15:38]>> It's not even like that good of an analogy. It's clearly not working. You got to try something else.

[00:15:44]>> I'm not dodging the question. I'm answering it.

[00:15:46]>> No, you're not. Can I when I ask you if you love a Christian, you you you went all that question.

[00:15:52]>> I asked you where you going, you tell me where you been.

[00:15:55]>> And I and I answered your question directly.

[00:15:58]>> No, you didn't. You're not answering.

[00:15:59]>> Yes, I did.

[00:16:00]>> So, one more time with that and then we have to move on.

[00:16:04]>> You don't understand.

[00:16:05]That's why I'm trying to explain it to you.

[00:16:07]>> Have you ever seen an ape turn into a human being?

[00:16:11]>> Okay, let's look at that. What does the word ape mean? That means that means a a bipeedal uh homoid uh with certain number of hair follicles with a certain type of teeth with fingerprints and fingernails. That means all of these descriptive features that we share. Have I ever seen us turn into us?

[00:16:32]>> You just use a word but you're not making sense because >> dude, you hit anybody with that and they would lose their [ __ ] minds. You're just using words, but you're not making sense. Answer my question.

[00:16:47]>> You don't know anything at all about taxonomy whatsoever.

[00:16:51]>> So, how can I not answer that question?

[00:16:54]Somebody doesn't know anything about it.

[00:16:56]>> Not able to answer that question. I want to do a followup ape.

[00:16:59]>> Do you understand that the word ape is a taxonomic question? Right. That's a that's a taxonomic word. Do you understand what it means?

[00:17:06]>> No, that's not the question. Are you deviating?

[00:17:10]>> No, I'm not deviating. Now, if you prove to me that you've seen a ape turn into a human being, >> prove it.

[00:17:17]>> Prove that you've seen it.

[00:17:18]>> Word to me.

[00:17:19]>> Show me a video.

[00:17:20]>> Anything. But let me let me ask you this.

[00:17:22]>> But but this word means one thing. What does it mean?

[00:17:25]>> I have no idea. It means any member of the taxonomic set super family homoidia, which means that it has a number of these characteristics. Fingernails, excuse me, fingernails and fingerprints.

[00:17:35]the the serpent certain type of dentition that we have, the certain type of ears that we have, all of these characterist that the the two pectoral mamm etc. There's a whole long long list of different physical characteristics that define what >> you can hear you can hear his footsteps as he runs away from the question.

[00:17:52]>> An eight is okay. I don't care about the whale any but what I do want to know the words I do want to know if you ever seen >> Ask me a nonsense question. I want to know, have you ever seen a ape turn into a human being? After all these years, you would have think that somebody somewhere somehow would have seen a ape turn into a human being and no one has ever seen that >> except that you you're asking a question that makes no sense.

[00:18:18]>> Even if people that you have read, >> if you can't answer the question, it means you have a bad argument.

[00:18:23]>> And the folks that you listen to have done have never seen that.

[00:18:27]>> Are we done here? Cuz you're not going to listen to my explanation. You're asking me ex >> because you're not answering my question.

[00:18:33]>> I am answering your question. You're going to rob my question. What it means?

[00:18:37]>> You're going to rob my question. You're not answering my question.

[00:18:39]>> That was a [ __ ] catastrophe. What do you say we spin the wheel again? Again.

[00:18:46]Wheel. Wheel. Wheel. Wheel. No.

[00:18:50]NO.

[00:18:52]WHEN I put him on here, I didn't have to think. I didn't think I would actually have to watch him. What have I done? Oh no. Oh, this is a wreck. Walmart goes full Muslim.

[00:19:06]Supergirl super disaster. We're not doing the Carmelo Anthony case. I will actually get banned if I hear this [ __ ] talk about that. Massive tragedy. Look at this [ __ ] face, man.

[00:19:19]He's just doing anything. Making content on whatever [ __ ] happens in the world because you got to hear the quartering talk about it. He's talking. This is about the earthquake in Venezuela. What the [ __ ] would you have to say about that at all that it happened? I guess.

[00:19:35]Holy [ __ ] Okay, he posts like twice a day, man. He's spamming gigabased award to tobuscus. Let's try that.

[00:19:43]>> Who doesn't love a good Ilon Omar story?

[00:19:47]>> Illen Omar.

[00:19:48]>> She got absolutely humiliated again after yet another meltdown and an interesting new vector.

[00:19:54]>> Yeah, absolutely humiliated again.

[00:19:56]Another huge W in the culture war. We ratioed Ilian Omar, whoever that is, >> of roasting these woke Democrats comes from a very >> uh how would I say a very unsuspected source, >> very likely source.

[00:20:15]>> A former Minecraft music YouTuber with over 6 million subscribers who has videos that get close to >> Yeah. 6 million subscribers. And how many people watch his videos? Not 6 million.

[00:20:27]>> But you can see she got completely destroyed in this. Completely destroyed.

[00:20:35]Completely destroyed.

[00:20:38]What? He's just scrolling past a bunch of [ __ ] Chud takes with zero likes.

[00:20:44]Zero likes. Zero likes. Zero likes. Zero likes. None of them have any one like.

[00:20:49]One like. One like. One like. All had These all had one like. [ __ ] destroyed. Destroyed. destroyed.

[00:20:56]>> Not completely destroyed.

[00:20:57]>> Completely destroyed.

[00:20:58]>> It's completely destroyed.

[00:21:00]>> Completely destroyed.

[00:21:02]>> Completely destroyed.

[00:21:03]>> Completely destroyed.

[00:21:04]>> And then today, to add to her humiliation, I have to dude to add to her humiliation, the Nugget and a Biscuit guy made a song about her. Yeah, dude. She's [ __ ] She hates her life now. We [ __ ] got her ass. We did it.

[00:21:22]>> Shout out to Toby Turner.

[00:21:25]He is an OG YouTuber. Now, stick with me here because this is funny and it's really, really interesting.

[00:21:31]>> This is a guy with 6.07 million subscribers and has videos as popular as >> Oh, go to popular. See how old they are.

[00:21:45]>> I 14 years ago.

[00:21:47]>> You can swing my sword. 100 million views, 67 million views, 50 million views. He is an extremely talented >> 12 15 years ago >> musician. I don't know if he does his own >> extremely talented musician is crazy >> animations too or not.

[00:22:03]>> No, >> he also went through some sort of cancel thing I'm unfamiliar with.

[00:22:08]>> Well, that's you know he has allegations which means the quartering has to take his side automatically. Trump's the president man. You got to defend every rapist. That's the rules when you're a right-winger.

[00:22:17]>> But he released a song today.

[00:22:22]Okay. Like he released a video 7 months ago memeing on people complaining about food stamps. Like >> wow man.

[00:22:29]>> Whoa. Toby Turner based? I thought this was the DJ McNugget guy.

[00:22:34]>> He's AI posting. Ew.

[00:22:36]>> I thought he wrote DJ Nugget in a biscuit performs at the sphere.

[00:22:41]>> What do you mean I thought he wrote that? That's a video title from seven months ago. That's also AI video. What?

[00:22:47]What do you mean I thought he wrote that? Huh? guy.

[00:22:51]>> DJ McNugget guy. He He has no idea who Tobascus is. What the [ __ ] He had to go to his most popular videos and be like, "Wow, my sword." I thought this was the DJ McNugget guy.

[00:23:07]What? I thought he wrote DJ Nugget in a biscuit performs at the sphere.

[00:23:14]He has no idea who this guy is. He's just reading. I thought he wrote this recent video. He wrote that. He wrote DJ Nugget in a biscuit performs at the sphere. Also, wait, can the sphere sue him for this? They're latigious as [ __ ] about what is the sphere and what's not the sphere?

[00:23:31]>> Like what? Then all of a sudden it's I was wrong about Tourette's and then >> what nature's nword pass >> and food stamps and then get the f out of my country.

[00:23:49]Now I'm going to react to this and if Toby wants to claim the revenue, he's absolutely positively welcome to do so.

[00:23:57]You got 6 million subscribers, but I know you need that money, man. I know you need the money for my 20k views on YouTube. 40k. I know you need that, Toby.

[00:24:07]>> Um, you know, I'm going to probably play more, but you should subscribe to Toby Turner and follow him on X because he he seems to be very very based. So, >> he seems to be he doesn't even know, >> you know. I think this and then there's a remix already out that's actually uh also awesome.

[00:24:26]>> Yeah, he's laring as a Tobuscus fan, which is actually kind of crazy. So he put this out, right?

[00:24:32]Okay. So let's look at again. This is a Minecraft songwriter. Now puts this out.

[00:24:37]Now deporting invader scum. Violent mobs go this way. People with 10 plus mug shots go that way. We can go to the comment section.

[00:24:43]>> Is he not playing the song?

[00:24:45]>> You know, I did not have Tuscus dropping a Deportal song on my 2026 bingo card.

[00:24:52]You know, uh saw this on if I didn't believe it. I don't know what that means. Is if still around? Certified Tabuscus gem.

[00:25:00]>> The noticing is spreading. There's a anti-Semitic dog whistle in there.

[00:25:04]>> Um.

[00:25:04]>> Oh, he had to skip that. You didn't want to point that out. Quarter pounder. Come on, man.

[00:25:09]>> Maybe the I Funny thing is a uh inside joke. I don't know. Shots fired. I'm going to get this video before it's deleted here before it gets deleted. You know, I haven't seen a Toby song since Mini Minotaur. And now the This is the comeback I needed.

[00:25:24]>> Dude, these are written by AI. They have to be. This is the comeback I needed.

[00:25:30]Okay.

[00:25:31]>> Tbascus is noticing. He's He's known for years. Toby's been noticing for a while now.

[00:25:37]>> Yeah. What do you think that's about, man? That's anti-semitism.

[00:25:39]>> Just when everyone thought he disappeared, he returned when he was needed the most. I mean, >> just [ __ ] like, there's a genre of YouTube commenter that would love this kind of [ __ ] [ __ ] Like this guy has a [ __ ] Dude, this guy has a Ugandan Knuckles profile picture. Like, graduated in [ __ ] 2018, 2019, peaked in high school ass [ __ ] Just loves the most obnoxious, unfunny, racist YouTube content. And says [ __ ] like, "Just when everyone thought he disappeared, he returned when we he was needed the most." They they say the stupidest [ __ ] most NPC Reddit ass catchphrase [ __ ] regurgitated memes over and over again. Every big YouTuber's comment section that's not like super leftist will look like this.

[00:26:25]It's so annoying.

[00:26:27]>> Absolutely crazy. He's extremely talented with music. Now say what you want about the style of music.

[00:26:31]>> Yeah. Somehow Tobuscus returned a thousand updes on that one.

[00:26:35]>> He may not like it. Um, I think it's a cool song, but uh just I'll just play like a little bit of it because again remember there are some words here some spicy language too. So just you know be warned for that.

[00:26:51]Why do you care? What spicy language?

[00:26:55]All of a sudden this like matters to you. What are you woke?

[00:26:59]You're listening to a deportation song.

[00:27:04]>> Kind of reminds me of like uh Interpole.

[00:27:07]>> Yeah. Way to stop it. 5 seconds in, [ __ ] >> Uh, a little bit.

[00:27:16]>> Wait for it.

[00:27:18]>> Get the [ __ ] out.

[00:27:24]>> Get the [ __ ] out. Get the [ __ ] out.

[00:27:29]I'm sick of these people who think that we're equal. Get out of my country. But we delete you. We don't want your culture. We don't want your flags here.

[00:27:37]We don't want your language.

[00:27:40]>> What? Polluting our street signs. Can you imagine not having real problems?

[00:27:46]You're You're [ __ ] worried about your street signs having too much words on it. What a [ __ ] pampered entitled Oh my god. Insane [ __ ] take. Holy [ __ ] >> Now wait, we'll wait till the Iliano Marburn and then we'll take a quick look at the um >> Whoa.

[00:28:10]>> the uh >> the remix because the remix is also kind of kind of good.

[00:28:20]by the way, I love Interpole, so like I kind of I I' really like the vibes of this. I don't know if that's what he's going for, but it reminds me of them a lot.

[00:28:29]>> Now, obviously, Interpol would never write a song like this, but >> I think they have a new record coming out, too, by the way.

[00:28:36]>> Like, this reminds me of a different band. I would much rather be listening to that right now.

[00:28:41]replace.

[00:28:45]>> No, you didn't. You didn't see that.

[00:28:55]>> Because of the United States.

[00:29:00]>> What is that?

[00:29:02]He just [ __ ] came.

[00:29:08]>> It's great.

[00:29:11]Yeah. Also, the United States has slavery, too.

[00:29:23]>> Yeah. This is literally Adolf Hitler [ __ ] I can't deport them fast enough.

[00:29:29]We have to do a final solution. That's That's Hitler, man. This is a Hitler song.

[00:29:38]Invader scum back.

[00:29:45]>> I mean it's shut up the same damn story. Another new shot.

[00:30:00]>> I mean it's so good.

[00:30:03]>> No, >> like it's I I think it's actually a good song. It's got that, like I said, it's got a little bit of that Interpol vibe, which I really, really like.

[00:30:12]>> I I >> Dude, he said it like five times. It's the only thing he says about the song.

[00:30:16]He likes it and it sounds like Interpol.

[00:30:17]Oh my god.

[00:30:18]>> Mean that isn't Toby's got his own style and it this definitely fits his style and I know >> he does it. You don't even know. You thought his name was like DJ McNugget or something.

[00:30:29]>> Musicians hate it when you're like, "Oh, you selling to this other band?" I get it. I I I don't want to take anything away from this.

[00:30:36]>> Well, I get it. But he sounds just like it. Probably because it's stolen AI slop. Okay. Probably because he said, you know, make it sound like this song.

[00:30:44]I like >> this is like what's what makes it great which like um I'm not like a big Tom McDonald guy because I'm not really a fan of rap but I I respect that he's good at his craft and what makes his music kind of >> the message of it supersede uh just kind of like putting out a meme song is that it's actually good music.

[00:31:06]Like he's a good rap artist. I I just don't care for rap. That doesn't mean I can't listen to a song and think, "Okay, this is a good song and has good production, has good stuff."

[00:31:15]>> Yeah. I This guy lives in just a [ __ ] fantasy world. He really just lives in a fake constructed like manchild playset play place world. I don't know how else to describe it. He's living the soft life being a [ __ ] like right-wing podcaster listening to constant right-wing echo chamber media. Yeah. He lives in Fisherprice, America. Holy [ __ ] >> So, same with Toby. He's an incredibly talented musician. And uh to go from Minecraft videos to this uh I did not have that on my bingo card.

[00:31:50]And then like an hour, dude, they just say Twitter catchphrases. I swear to God. Hour later, this um Adolf Elmer.

[00:32:04]It's insane how anti-Zionism is too far.

[00:32:07]But this is the stuff these guys find funny. You say Israel is an apartheid state and they're like, "You sound like Hitler." And you're like laughing and following Adolf Elmer. Huh?

[00:32:20]What the [ __ ] Uh, put out a remix and all credit to him. You can find him on X. I don't know if he's a YouTuber or not, but I'll just play a little bit of this. I hope this is like a thing. I hope this turns into a thing where people are reacting or people are remixing the song and it becomes like a a that would be amazing.

[00:32:44]>> Yeah, everyone needs to hear remixes of this song. It needs to become the next big meme of 2026 >> because I love the message, right?

[00:32:54]>> The message is the entire lyrics of the song. It's not really a message so much as it's just the text of the song. Now, this one is also a little bit I I I really like this one, too. To be honest, I just went through reverse puberty there for a second.

[00:33:13]This is like a little more industrial. I guess >> Yeah, dude. Get the [ __ ] down. Get the [ __ ] down.

[00:33:33]>> I'm sick of these people who think that we're equal. Get out of my country before we delete you. We don't want your culture.

[00:33:44]Go [ __ ] yourself.

[00:33:57]>> I was great.

[00:33:59]>> Oh my god. It's so bad. This is the worst song I've heard in my entire life.

[00:34:06]Holy [ __ ] He's like Tom McDonald sucks and then puts this on. Holy [ __ ] It does sound like Hasbin Hotel. NO, THEY JUST GOT TO say [ __ ] Oh, wait.

[00:34:17]They do say [ __ ] They do say [ __ ] in it. He says [ __ ] Somalia still has slavery. Go [ __ ] yourself in.

[00:34:36]>> By the way, I don't know if this guy's a YouTube channel, but >> I don't know. You already said that, man.

[00:34:40]>> You can find him at Adolf Elmer on X.

[00:34:44]I mean, >> dude, why are you giving a shout out to Adolf Elmer?

[00:34:49]>> This is great. Was the line about replacing the American flag with Somalia flag? Was that supposed to be about Ilon Emar or whatever?

[00:35:00]However, he says her name wrong cuz he kind of just stopped talking about her halfway through the video. Yeah, he keeps calling her different [ __ ] By the way, I don't know if this guy has a YouTube channel, but you can find him at Adolf Elmer on X.

[00:35:20]I hope I mean this is >> the Iliad by Omar.

[00:35:23]>> Great.

[00:35:25]So often there's like it feels like the left has kind of the strangle hold on music and you know uh entertain.

[00:35:39]>> Yeah. art, arts and creativity. It's crazy. It's almost like all of you guys are [ __ ] terrible. Stuff like that and untalented.

[00:35:50]>> And I don't even know.

[00:35:52]I don't even know if like that means I don't know where Toby Turner's politics are.

[00:35:59]>> I think I do. I think I actually know exactly where they are. I would assume he's like a lot of us, somebody who's probably very accepting for a very long time and that you you can only push people so far. And um >> yeah, he was forced to become a white supremacist Nazi.

[00:36:18]>> Yeah, definitely go support both of these if this guy is like does this stuff if it's his original.

[00:36:23]>> The left forced these guys to become Nazis, man. It's just crazy. Can't believe we did that to them.

[00:36:29]>> I hope I think I assume it's his original thing.

[00:36:32]Um, yeah. I mean, it is. He went from chicken in a biscuit to chief.

[00:36:38]>> Dude, why does no one know what the song is? It's Nugget in a biscuit. Nobody knows what it is. Chicken in a biscuit.

[00:36:48]That's a cracker.

[00:36:50]These are all fake fans, dude. All the real Tobuscus fans think he's [ __ ] weird as [ __ ] Why are they laring?

[00:36:57]Commander of the deportation service at lightning speed. Goes to show you these people should not have left should have these hags should have left the internet and gaming alone.

[00:37:05]>> Who pissed >> gaming? What are they talking about?

[00:37:08]Just women in general >> off the internet. Autist >> leave gaming alone.

[00:37:13]>> WHAT THE [ __ ] I thought this was about immigration to be left alone and not be a part of this. Like I I love it. Uh and I love that it roast Omar. So get wrecked Omar. And congratulations on to on Toby. I think I hope this song.

[00:37:32]>> Congratulations on Toby. Dude, I don't know if you could make a worse video than this if you tried. He's actually terrible at this. You know, does really well for him and uh and I hope he makes a lot of money. You could probably buy it. It's I guess it's not on iTunes yet.

[00:37:48]He said not accepted on iTunes yet, but you >> Yeah, I wonder why.

[00:37:53]>> Also support him on Patreon. I would recommend, Toby, if you're going to go down this path, you should think about alternative places for people to back you because I'm not sure Patreon's going to keep you around.

[00:38:04]>> Yeah, they should take his ass down.

[00:38:06]>> If there becomes a hub up about it, >> let's spin the wheel one more time and see how we end this video. It's gone so well so far.

[00:38:24]I hate that this is the one that I did want to see. I'm just I'm glad it wasn't Dilly Show again. Dilly show is rough.

[00:38:31]The Dilly Brothers or whatever. I can't handle that. Don't do that to the Raiders. What do you mean? This is important. Bill Maher uh has a new episode of his horrible, horrible podcast where he gets absolutely drunk as [ __ ] around all of his guests. And his latest guest is Epstein affiliate and pedophile Kevin Spacy. I have no idea why he thought this was okay. I really want to see what people think about this. One of the best interviews ever. Okay. All right. Phil's audience is just ready and willing to accept this.

[00:39:05]>> Why you >> I said this earlier. Oh, he's selling his merch, too. That's nice. I said this earlier, but I think there's a subset of people in society uh that no matter how evil or horrific the actions of a particular white man in entertainment are, they view it as like a timer where they're like, "Okay, only a matter of time. We just got to wait it out before we can bring this guy back." And there's a lot of examples of this. They're bringing back [ __ ] Louis CK on Netflix. He gets a new special. Why the [ __ ] not? What? Who cares about anything? [ __ ] Candace Owens tried to free Harvey Weinstein with her series Harvey Speaks where she just, you know, constantly bered and attacked the accusers of Harvey Weinstein that were very well corroborated and like proven to be telling the truth in court. That was [ __ ] crazy. And now we have Kevin Spacy. The same year the Epstein files released, he decides to try to redeem himself on Bill Maher's podcast of all places, which is crazy because Bill Maher is not here to talk to you even about being cancelled. He's here to talk about himself and how he's canled. So, this isn't exactly the place to be uncancled >> in front of a journalist and then they turn it into a story.

[00:40:14]>> Who did that?

[00:40:16]>> Dude, Bill sounds [ __ ] swashed in this episode. Who did that?

[00:40:22]I I I have to share with you something I've never said publicly.

[00:40:26]>> I guess we're telling tales out of school. We might as well.

[00:40:30]>> Like what happened?

[00:40:32]>> And is Kevin Spacy really here?

[00:40:34]>> Is Kevin Spacy really here?

[00:40:36]>> Really here?

[00:40:37]>> Wow.

[00:40:38]>> Man of his word. I >> thank you for having >> you kidding.

[00:40:43]>> Really?

[00:40:44]>> Yeah.

[00:40:44]>> He doesn't even know how to introduce himself. He just goes man of his word.

[00:40:48]and he goes, "Hey, what is this sexy ass music?" So, okay, if you don't know, Bill, Bill Maher is the real life Glenn Quagmire, and he has this like really creepy rapey basement that he does his podcast in, and it's a lot like Quagmire's house from Family Guy.

[00:41:01]>> And he has the music and everything.

[00:41:02]It's It's gross. Ew. He also has this [ __ ] signed Trump thing. A lot of pedto representation on the podcast today. Bill, >> thank you for having me.

[00:41:10]>> Hey, you kidding?

[00:41:11]>> Thank you.

[00:41:12]>> Really?

[00:41:12]>> Yeah.

[00:41:13]>> Thank you so much.

[00:41:14]>> I can't wait to talk to you.

[00:41:16]>> You say really there. He said, "Thank you for having me." And he went, "Really?"

[00:41:20]>> Excited all day because I don't I don't see you. Obviously, reasons of an unpleasant nature that prevent >> Yeah. You know, pedophilia. You were accused of grooming and sexually assaulting a 14-year-old.

[00:41:35]>> You from being But, you know, for the longest time, you know, you were just uh you I'll say this. I don't know if we could talk about the obviously.

[00:41:43]>> Oh my god, he's lit, dude. Dude, give me what he's on. What the [ __ ] >> Management, crime, what fits. But like you were always a working actor. For you to like lose working, you look like you always seem to be the kind of guy who like loves to be on a set.

[00:42:00]>> The kind of guy loves to be on a set.

[00:42:05]Jesus. Honestly, excellent study for uh any aspiring actors out there. If you want to do a drunk scene, study this.

[00:42:12]Study his mannerisms. Study his study his speech patterns. What's the overunder on Kevin Spacy having spiked his [ __ ] Oh no. I hope not. It honestly it seems like Bill got drunk before he even showed up to the studio.

[00:42:24]>> Definitely >> like Dairo's like that, right? They just go from one to that's why they do some [ __ ] >> Because you just you'd rather work on some [ __ ] than not work, right?

[00:42:34]>> You'd rather work on some [ __ ] Although, you know, when you start off, you know, no matter what the film or play or television thing is, you always think, "Oh, I'm going to try to do my best work." And >> I'm going to believe in it. And, you know, then every now and then you you make a nine lives. What can you do?

[00:42:50]>> What was that? Was it a bad movie you were in?

[00:42:53]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:42:53]>> I never saw Nine Lives.

[00:42:55]>> I turn into >> I saw Cats Versus Dogs, though. Is it just the shaggy dog but with a cat and Kevin Spy instead of Tim Allen? Same thing.

[00:43:03]>> Okay. That is the worst poster I've ever seen. I didn't even give it any thought.

[00:43:10]You're so right. What does it tell you about anything? If you really look hard, you could be like, "Okay, the cat has a marker and the cat wrote me on a picture of Kevin Spy. Therefore, the cat must be Kevin Spy."

[00:43:30]What is he writing on? a picture of the three of them that he printed out.

[00:43:37]Yeah, the cat looks so dead. It looks like a doll. What the [ __ ] The eyes are all [ __ ] up.

[00:43:46]They had to like rush job the [ __ ] eyes cuz it probably wasn't looking the right way. So that's why it doesn't look natural. They like moved the pupils or something.

[00:44:00]It might be the [ __ ] uh compression on the image, but that's what it looks like. No, this is way pre-I. This movie is from 2016. Yeah, it's just a talking cat, actually. Holy [ __ ] >> A cat.

[00:44:12]>> [ __ ] up art like this that was made before AI is truly a gem we should preserve. I agree. We can't let people forget the golden years.

[00:44:20]>> But how where where in your career was this?

[00:44:22]>> It was at a point where >> Wait, when did he get the allegations?

[00:44:25]Wasn't it like 2014? This was was nine lives after. It's got a 14% on Rotten Tomatoes. There's not a laugh to be had.

[00:44:35]I guess you have to be a cat lover or a father or have had someone you love in a coma to appreciate this movie.

[00:44:44]Is that the plot? Kevin Spy is in a coma and he becomes a cat so they didn't have to pay him for being on screen for the whole movie. Just his voice for the cat.

[00:44:54]I definitely love this movie and think you should disregard the low ratings and check it out. It's a clean family movie, too. Wow. Clean family movie with a pedophile in it. I I don't know about that.

[00:45:06]>> I was willing to make make a movie just for money.

[00:45:09]>> No, but because you were because you were past the you were very bankable.

[00:45:14]>> It was I was a bankable star and I I had no idea that a movie about >> you had done usual suspects and >> Oh, yeah. This is this is like you know after House of Cards. Oh. Oh, I see.

[00:45:24]>> Yeah. After the allegations, >> this was Yeah, this was this was a movie that I never knew that a movie about a cat could be such a dog.

[00:45:32]>> Well, he tried like three times to get that out and Bill kept interrupting him.

[00:45:36]>> Is that how you went and promoted it?

[00:45:38]>> Yeah, I know. There was a time when uh I mean, poor Bruce Willis now in bad shape and I knew him a long time ago pretty well for a little while when he was first out here and he hung out at the comedy.

[00:45:49]>> Yeah. So, 30 40 years ago.

[00:45:52]>> Clubs. Um, so sad.

[00:45:53]>> But there was a time when I would see when I would watch movies in hotels.

[00:45:58]That's where I see all my movies for a while. That stopped. But the >> It does really look like it's two Bill Mars. That's [ __ ] weird.

[00:46:04]>> It used to be a real treat in a hotel room because they would have the first run movies, >> but you you buy it. Of course, it wasn't. And so like >> So you weren't watching the porno. Is that what you're saying?

[00:46:16]>> There were there was moments when I did.

[00:46:18]>> You would bring that up. Ew.

[00:46:20]>> Breakdown.

[00:46:21]>> Yes. But I it kind of sucked because if you can't can't fast forward, >> right? Yes, that's that's true. You mean get past the story points, >> right? This is so long ago there were story points.

[00:46:32]>> Oh, I see. That's not how porn is today.

[00:46:35]>> But I'm saying you have to tell much force.

[00:46:41]There was a time when like you could see Bruce Willis like along as you scrolled through the movies there would be like at one time three or four you'd never heard of with him and he always had like a very small part I'm sure they shot it in a week or less >> that's right >> and but that it was a tribute to how big >> guess they're just talking about shitty movies that you do for money >> his name is >> that you could slap him on there to all these movies and they would go straight to the video, but somebody was making money.

[00:47:15]>> We were I was just in the car with the Evan Loenstein who I I know you know Evan and >> Jire we were just talking about the fact that you know Sam Jackson when I think about how many movies Sam Jackson has been in >> and and a number of them were films that you know he must have worked a couple of >> grabbing the ice with his hands. Ew.

[00:47:33]What if someone else wants a drink >> days and they paid him a a shitload of money?

[00:47:38]>> Yes. to say [ __ ] or whatever it is.

[00:47:42]>> Yeah, that's all he does. Huh?

[00:47:45]>> That they wanted him to say. And I'm like, good for him, you know?

[00:47:48]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:47:48]>> Look at all the movies he made. How much money all the movies he made made. It was incredible.

[00:47:52]>> Yeah. Especially since we know he can do so much more. So, it's funny.

[00:47:56]>> I just think Samuel Jackson is just a guy who likes to work. You know what I mean? I don't think it's any more complicated than that. He was in [ __ ] GTA uh San Andrea. He's just in random [ __ ] Yeah. He's Officer Tenpenney. It's funny when you >> He's the best. I did a movie with him uh called The Negotiator that I absolutely love and I always wish that we' done a sequel >> uh to it because I think it's it's >> If I was Samuel Jackson, I'd be pissed that he [ __ ] mentioned me. GH >> material.

[00:48:22]>> Do not talk about me.

[00:48:24]>> You played a negotiator or he did >> I played the negotiator. He played Yeah, he played a a cop who been falsely accused.

[00:48:31]>> I would have pegged you for the psycho.

[00:48:33]>> Really?

[00:48:34]>> No, I'm kidding.

[00:48:36]No, you you you have had a very broad range. I mean, you you were never sort of like >> What are you talking about? I was never into broads. Hey, wait a minute. Hey, just a second.

[00:48:51]>> What?

[00:48:51]>> Hello. Thank you. Thank you. I'll be here all week. Thank you.

[00:48:55]>> You know what, Kevin? I never understood what >> I was never into broads. Hey, >> you have had a very broad range. I mean, you >> Oh, because he's gay.

[00:49:04]>> What are you talking about? I was never into broads. Hey, wait a minute. Hey, just a second. Hello. Thank you. Thank you. I'll be here all week. Thank you.

[00:49:12]Took Bill a minute to laugh at that one.

[00:49:15]>> You know what, Kevin? I never understood why you kept >> Bill might be like blackout drunk and I think he should drink more.

[00:49:20]>> That a secret. Like it kept there's >> he's gay. Kevin Spacy probably had the worst coming out representation of all time. I mean, he only came out as gay because he was accused of assaulting a 14-year-old boy. And he was like, "All right, I'm coming out now, guys. That's what you all wanted me to say." That That's literally how like he handled that. It's [ __ ] crazy. I've never clicked faster. It's 5:00 a.m., Bill.

[00:49:50]They watched this at 5:00 a.m. I find this one of the funniest Club random.

[00:49:54]It's good to see Kevin Spy again.

[00:49:58]Welcome back. Miss you. This is definitely one of the best episodes ever. Didn't Wasn't that one of the first comments? Maybe not. I don't know if they got the [ __ ] PR bots out in force for Kevin Spacy or if like people just [ __ ] love Kevin Spy still this much. Holy [ __ ] They all love it.

[00:50:15]That's [ __ ] crazy. The quickness of Spacy's mind remembering things is uncanny. This is [ __ ] insane. Oh my god.

[00:50:23]>> Point where it was like so much cooler to be gay. Like I I don't want to inject myself into this, but honestly, I mean, I I don't get a a lot of breaks from the media, especially, you know, they're a little >> Oh, yeah. He's been he's really been through the ringer.

[00:50:37]>> Too woke and blah blah blah.

[00:50:39]>> If I Kevin Spacy doesn't care much for wokeness, huh?

[00:50:44]>> Funny how that works.

[00:50:46]>> Yeah.

[00:50:46]>> If I at some point had come out as gay, I they would be like it would be the greatest thing that ever happened. I mean, and I would be feeded and there would just You're a little gay, you know.

[00:50:57]>> No, >> no, not even a little.

[00:51:00]>> You know, you're pinned against a guy against the wall with that kind of a question. And it just it makes you sound gay when you adamantly admit that you're not.

[00:51:10]>> Yeah.

[00:51:11]>> So, he's insecure.

[00:51:12]>> [ __ ] >> He did a slur fake out. Really? Less than 10 minutes in, Bill. less than 10 minutes into the podcast and you're doing a slur fake out. Yeah, he said pin a guy against the wall. What the [ __ ] Yeah, thanks for being here so I can talk about myself. What up, Audra?

[00:51:33]That's exactly what Bill is doing.

[00:51:35]That's what every episode is.

[00:51:37]>> Question. And it just it makes you sound gay when you admit that you're not.

[00:51:42]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:51:43]>> You [ __ ] >> Look how drunk he is, man.

[00:51:51]>> He's a slob.

[00:51:52]>> Cheers. Yeah, >> thank you for having me. Thanks for being >> and I know you've been >> thanks for being >> talking about having me and and and it's been meant a lot to me. There's just been a period of years where the advice that Evan and I were getting was that I I because I was dealing with court stuff that I just couldn't come out and have the kind of conversations I would like to have.

[00:52:11]>> Look, I'm not lie to you. I I mean I go by numbers when with scandals. Not I say go by and and it's an interesting question maybe to ask you like if if it's like one person I'm always like well I don't know if I wasn't in the room when it gets to like >> like on that standard then no one is guilty of anything unless you saw it happen in front of your eyes nothing ever happened. Have you ever seen an ape turn into a human being? No. It doesn't happen. Can't happen. That's Bill's mentality on pedophilia and rape. Oh my god. You know, you've said, "Come on, man. This just too much smoke to be no fire."

[00:52:51]>> Oh, I never said there was no fire.

[00:52:53]>> Okay. All right.

[00:52:54]>> Yeah. I never said I didn't do anything wrong. It's just not as bad as people say. Classic [ __ ] excuse for guilty [ __ ] >> This wasn't a raging.

[00:53:02]>> No, it's nuanced. My relation I can't I don't even want my words to say that.

[00:53:06]His relationship with Epste is so nuanced. Yeah, clearly >> fire it was a small kitchen fire that could have been put out with an extinguisher.

[00:53:15]>> An import to me the most important point in this case and we discussed all is that at a certain point the law does have to have some merit with people. You had like five I think five ones I heard about and each time Yeah. That's just the truth. the >> what is he saying?

[00:53:36]>> You know, just they lost you. You I think you're like five and0 or something.

[00:53:41]>> We we haven't lost one.

[00:53:43]>> We we Yeah, we've been >> winning in a court of law for a [ __ ] abuser wins proves absolutely nothing.

[00:53:49]Again, he still has Epstein connections.

[00:53:52]Just that alone is incredibly suspicious. Yeah, he heard about five, but he won the cases, I guess, which was, you know, he's he was found not guilty. So that means, you know, the justice system always works every time.

[00:54:04]We don't have a rep, rapist, pedophile, president. No, we don't. No, sir.

[00:54:07]>> Found not guilty in every court we we've gone into with a with a jury.

[00:54:12]>> Right. And one Elton John, didn't he testif John testified in a in a in a case in Great Britain.

[00:54:17]>> Why was he Why was he >> Because what am I gay?

[00:54:24]>> Like gay celebrities hanging out together. Weird.

[00:54:28]>> No, it wasn't about a party or anything like that. And it was about the fact that that that a person who had accused >> Yeah. Elden John's been a weirdo about a lot of different [ __ ] >> to >> me of something had also um made up something about him and he felt it was very important that the >> Yeah. Witnesses I think accusers at least one accuser of Kevin Spacey died under mysterious circumstances. At least one. Yeah. So there is that too that this person was not consistently telling the truth. Do you think there's more making up in the gay community?

[00:55:01]>> Making up? Make Well, making up stuff.

[00:55:03]You said >> Oh, >> what? That already barely ever happens.

[00:55:09]>> You said that he made up something about >> Yeah, he made up something about about >> And you're And the reason why I assume you've won five times is the juries thought that people were making stuff up.

[00:55:21]>> Not that there wasn't nothing.

[00:55:22]>> No. And there are certain cases where >> part of something is true, but it's been rethought. It's been >> redesigned or it's been entirely made up certainly in the case of of Anthony Rap, which is a case that we won in in federal court in New York.

[00:55:41]>> Which one was that?

[00:55:42]>> Anthony Rap sued me. He' done >> which one? He was the first person to accuse me of something from 31 years before >> something >> or in 2017.

[00:55:54]I know that name. I've heard it.

[00:55:55]>> The circumstance was he did an article in BuzzFeed magazine in which he accused me of being attracted to him and wanting to be sexual with him when he was a a teenager, when he was just a kid. And it took us until we got to court uh many years later in 2022 to be able to prove that in fact the entire story was not true. There's just no way, man. I don't [ __ ] believe that at all.

[00:56:18]>> The foundation of the story, uh, he built around a bedroom in an apartment that he said I rented in which he'd gone into a bedroom at a party that I threw.

[00:56:28]He'd been invited to this party and that at some point, very drunk, I came into that bedroom, leaned against the door, was so drunk I probably wouldn't remember, and that this encounter happened. But as it turned out and as we proved in a court of law, I lived in a studio apartment. There was no bedroom.

[00:56:46]There was no door. There was all the entire foundation of what he told this story around completely crumbled.

[00:56:54]>> What if it wasn't your house? What if it was someone else's house? That doesn't mean that doesn't Yeah. As if he also couldn't have multiple properties, which he did have. what >> with the evidence and also we had incredible testimony by John Borrowman who was a friend of his at the time and had been to my apartment with him. The only time he'd ever been in my apartment was when they came to meet my dog. So the whole thing was made up. Um >> Okay. So listen, I'm not >> Wow. Way to include the fact that you actually literally met this person and had a interaction. Okay. So he had actually been to your house before. That doesn't what? Oh, wait. Mutual friend.

[00:57:32]Yeah. Yeah. Wait, what? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Why was he showing up to your Why was a teenager showing up to your house with a mutual friend >> and to meet your dog? That sounds suspicious as [ __ ] >> To my apartment with him. The only time he'd ever been in my who was a friend of his at the time. And had been to my apartment with him. The only time he'd ever been in my apartment.

[00:57:53]>> So him and his friend were in your apartment to meet your dog. So is it two teenagers? How did they get all the way up there? was when they came to meet my dog.

[00:58:03]>> So, the whole thing was made up. Um, >> okay. So, listen, I'm not that kind of interviewer who like and then this now that >> I don't remember anything, so I can't ask no followup.

[00:58:14]>> Show like I do my homework and like I I don't even remember this guy's name.

[00:58:19]Play me. This is not 60 minutes >> clearly.

[00:58:22]>> But I'm also I feel >> that's why he's here, Bill Anderson. I'm very disappointed.

[00:58:26]>> Yeah. I'm also fair and I also am, you know, >> you can't be fair when you're this drunk, man.

[00:58:31]>> I think my bond with Modian's truthful.

[00:58:34]So truthfully, again, >> hang on, let me turn the caption off on that one.

[00:58:38]>> You know, I think my bond with my truthful >> I think my audience truthful.

[00:58:45]>> So truthfully, again, like 20 like when 20 people feel like something like that's that's a lot of people. It's >> I thought it was five. No, it's 20.

[00:58:55]>> Lot of smoke. It's a lot of uh I don't know there is always nuance and people it's terri >> yeah but are all of them lying >> terrible I think that people skip over it and one of them is time moray change people they just do people do >> like the fact that there's no comments mentioning how drunk Bill is is [ __ ] crazy that that's got to be the biggest indicator that this is botted all the comments are about how much they love Kevin Spacy his PR team had to have botted these comments comments. There's no way. Bunch of [ __ ] no profile picture Andes. Yeah, Bill is high as [ __ ] No, he's just drunk. Wow, Bill does not hold back. There's like two comments about how high Bill is or how drunk he is, but they say hi. They both say hi for some reason. Great actor.

[00:59:42]Love him. Bring him back. Like, did were you even listening for God's sake?

[00:59:47]>> Acted differently. I mean, it it's we get better generally as we more enlightened. But um but um >> Bill is is one of the few people that have gotten absolutely more stupid with age. Okay, maybe not few. Maybe that's true of many people.

[01:00:02]>> You know, you must have known you were a you know forward, shall we in the old parllet a forward.

[01:00:13]>> I hit on a lot of guys.

[01:00:15]>> Yeah, but hitting >> and sometimes they don't like it and then you do it anyway.

[01:00:19]>> And like I mean Yeah, I did a bit about >> This is an insane way to have this conversation, dude.

[01:00:26]>> The the one again, you got off totally.

[01:00:30]I mean, I think the jury was like took two hours to say the kid >> that doesn't mean anything.

[01:00:36]>> The piano bar.

[01:00:38]>> Oh, yeah. That actually never went to trial.

[01:00:40]>> Okay.

[01:00:40]>> That never went to trial cuz he they tampered with evidence and then he took the fifth uh in a pre-trial um meeting with my lawyer. I I'm just again >> that doesn't mean anything >> remembering this from the I used to do a bit about it in my act in your in your defense >> because the bit was >> Yeah, I'm sure Kevin never ple pled the fifth ever during any of these cases.

[01:01:03]Yeah, sure, man. Totally.

[01:01:05]>> As I read as I recall, I mean that like he he says like >> what Bill was in his hand for like three minutes and then he like said something and I remember like Mr. Face me.

[01:01:20]>> Wasn't that part of it?

[01:01:21]>> In a very crowded bar with lots of people looking at me.

[01:01:24]>> I mean, your [ __ ] could have been in his hand, but if if it's there for three minutes, >> my [ __ ] was never in his hand. Really?

[01:01:30]No. No. He He He claimed something else.

[01:01:32]Uh, but yeah, that that that >> Oh, he claimed something else, but it wasn't true anyway. Whatever it was, >> never even got to court.

[01:01:38]>> That one was thrown out.

[01:01:40]>> He claimed something different. Bill's not He's just [ __ ] making [ __ ] up, I guess.

[01:01:43]>> But isn't I mean, this is a >> dude. Oh my god, he's so drunk. I've never seen him this [ __ ] up.

[01:01:55]>> Inappropriate question that, you know, again, Keith Morrison, I don't think is going to ask, but like, come on, man.

[01:02:03]There is a difference between the heterosexual world and the gay world.

[01:02:11]>> What the [ __ ] do you mean? I I'm not saying that excuses bad behavior. I'm just saying like there >> Yeah, gays can be rapey. Is that what you're saying? That's awesome, man.

[01:02:22]Great stereotype.

[01:02:23]>> There's no equivalent of a bath house in the heterosexual world.

[01:02:30]>> Jesus Christ, man. So, that means boundaries don't matter, I guess, >> right? Paloma Springs. Yeah.

[01:02:37]>> What?

[01:02:40]>> No, but isn't that gay? Yeah.

[01:02:43]Um, look, I I I would say this. I certainly >> Yeah, it's because straight people could probably feasibly have sex wherever they want. Really? And back in the day, gay people had to keep it under wraps or they might get like [ __ ] killed. O >> over the years that I have been um an >> Yeah. Also, you have to be over 18 to go to a bath house, so Kevin probably won't know much about that.

[01:03:08]>> Sure. And I certainly uh I kept I was I was very very closeted. I was fiercely closeted. I didn't want anyone to know anything about me. And of course I thought I was so clever that no one knew. But of course >> I still I wish I didn't know anything about him.

[01:03:21]>> Everybody knew.

[01:03:21]>> I knew.

[01:03:22]>> Yeah. You knew.

[01:03:23]>> I >> And I never got near you. All right.

[01:03:26]>> I know. I did a a great joke about you that the audience just completely didn't get at the 19 >> Oh, that must happen a lot. The audience just doesn't get it. 1997 Oscars. It was Hy Joel Osman.

[01:03:41]>> Dude, how does he even remember, man?

[01:03:42]Holy [ __ ] >> He remembers his flops from 40 years ago.

[01:03:48]>> Remember the mo the Bruce Willis movie?

[01:03:50]>> Sure. Bruce Willis movie. Yeah.

[01:03:51]>> What was it? I remember maybe you were up against him or you were there.

[01:03:54]>> I see Dead People. Yes.

[01:03:56]>> Yeah. I see Dead People movie.

[01:03:57]>> Exactly. I said uh the Oscars went on so long this year by the end of the evening. Haley Joel Osman had a beard and Kevin Spacy didn't.

[01:04:09]>> That's a good joke.

[01:04:10]>> So good. And they laughed at the first part and totally they don't know what >> Oh, that's so interesting.

[01:04:16]>> They didn't get it. They didn't get the joke.

[01:04:19]>> They didn't know what a beer.

[01:04:20]>> Maybe you should have said, "I see gay people.

[01:04:21]>> They're not They're not sophisticates like us, Kevin."

[01:04:24]>> Yes, I see.

[01:04:25]>> You see, we're sophisticates.

[01:04:30]>> You're something. You're both something.

[01:04:32]That's the part of me that's gay. I'm very [ __ ] sophisticated.

[01:04:36]>> Sophisticated. Yeah. Yeah, >> dude. He's [ __ ] trashed. What do you mean sophisticated?

[01:04:42]>> So, where where were we in my grilling?

[01:04:46]Well, >> I'm [ __ ] sophisticated.

[01:04:50]>> You know, the question to me now is like I think you I think my >> Spidey instinct is Yeah, you should get you should have gotten some punishment.

[01:05:01]You I think you were a little too forward, shall we say, >> bro? So, you agree he is rapist? He's a rapist. What? No, I think you should get a little slap on the wrist. Come on.

[01:05:15]>> They made a lot of obviously people got uncomfortable.

[01:05:18]>> So, why are you doing this? It's just enough time has passed. It doesn't matter. That person's [ __ ] feelings.

[01:05:23]They're their their hurt is fine now cuz you're over it.

[01:05:26]>> Question now is you paid a lot. You know, it's it's like when Bernie says rich people don't pay taxes. Like who the >> Yes, he has allegations from people who were 14 at the time and he was also an affiliate of Jeffrey Epstein who went on a trip Kevin Spacy went on a trip with Jeffrey Epstein and [ __ ] uh Bill Clinton to Africa.

[01:05:47]>> [ __ ] you. I pay like 60%. You [ __ ] right?

[01:05:52]>> I Okay, it's like how much is enough paying?

[01:05:56]>> So like when did this start? So let let's say let's say let's say let's talk about your sentence that you've served this started to put that on this started in 2017 in October of 2017 this began and I would say >> and you're still you're in still in show business jail. Well, I I feel less in jail than I did. Okay. But I do certainly now feel that when people look at things and when they I know, as you said, you didn't really pay attention to the details and I know most people don't, >> but I think when people actually start to hear the facts, understand what we've won in courts, I think people now look at this and think maybe 9 years has been enough.

[01:06:38]>> Well, that's the >> What do you mean, man? How entitled can you be? Oh, maybe I've had enough time not having a job. Maybe it's time for me to have a job again. What the [ __ ] Maybe people should like me now. It's been long enough. You should have gone to prison.

[01:06:55]>> And if I had been a sports figure, I would have been benched for seven games.

[01:07:00]>> Yeah. I mean, dude. Oh my god.

[01:07:04]Yeah, that's a separate issue, man.

[01:07:07]Athletes are also sometimes rapists and don't go to jail and it's also insane.

[01:07:12]That's not a good thing. Kevin Spacy's addressing questions about participation participation in a 2002 humanitarian trip to Africa that included former President Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein. Humanitarian.

[01:07:26]He said Tuesday he didn't know Epste or his since convicted accomplice Galain Maxwell when he flew on Epstein's private jet as part of a group participating in the program on AIDS and HIV awareness. Yeah, sure man. I didn't want to be around this guy because I felt he put the president at risk on that trip to South Africa because there were these young girls. The actor said on Piers Morgan, we were like who is this guy? When dude he was closer with the president than you were, man. Come on. When Morgan asked Spacy to clarify, he said there were young girls on those flights. Yeah. And he didn't feel the need to say anything is the crazy thing.

[01:07:59]It's almost like he thought it was normal.

[01:08:02]>> Do you know what I mean?

[01:08:03]>> Why you say why are you comparing it to that?

[01:08:05]>> Well, because that's what happens. A sports person is accused of something and they're benched for seven >> sports person seven days, seven games, and then they're back on the field.

[01:08:13]Sports figures have been thr I mean who's the guy who I'm shouldn't it's not funny but he clocked his wife in the elevator and he never played again.

[01:08:23]>> Well I don't I don't know about that.

[01:08:24]>> He doesn't know anything about sports >> particular case but I'm saying well >> if you're hitting home runs they they they want you on the field.

[01:08:32]>> Yes.

[01:08:34]>> But Kevin Spacy isn't hitting home runs.

[01:08:37]He's like, he's saying he's so good that they have to let him back into Hollywood. He's just that [ __ ] good.

[01:08:44]You have to keep him around.

[01:08:46]>> Yeah. You mean Yeah. Yeah. You're right.

[01:08:50]>> So, I Okay.

[01:08:51]>> Believe we're at a point now where I think people are now beginning to look at what actually happened. And I'm I feel much more welcomed and I think that things are moving in the the direction that we we hope that >> he wants to be Jared Leto. You're right.

[01:09:06]You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right.

[01:09:08]You're right. This is why it's not You can't just do a You can't just cherrypick the guys that have to face consequences, man. You have to make them all face consequences. Letting Louis CK back in the comedy is such a [ __ ] mistake. Letting Jared Leto stick around is such a [ __ ] mistake because it's just going to bring more of these [ __ ] guys back into the spotlight that think that they can get away with it, too, because why wouldn't they be able to >> removing it?

[01:09:31]>> Yeah. Because I think a 10-year sentence is a serious sentence.

[01:09:35]>> Yeah. And Jared Leto is also a shitty actor that somehow stays relevant and in like mainstream projects for some reason. It's they're a lot alike actually.

[01:09:43]>> And I know like I don't know. Thank God, but I surmise that like it's a it's an every day sentence. I mean, you know, a certain s >> Oh, he's been through so much.

[01:09:57]>> Parts of it. You can't go out, >> right?

[01:10:01]>> I go out all the time.

[01:10:02]>> No, always throughout this whole thing.

[01:10:04]Wow. Bill's like, "You must be just as much of a victim as me."

[01:10:08]>> Not throughout the whole thing. I would say in 2018, I didn't really want to be seen.

[01:10:13]>> I Exactly. I >> And and I and I sort of kept to myself and I actually started wearing a mask before CO, which was pretty funny that I was wearing a mask cuz I didn't want to be seen.

[01:10:22]>> Um but then I got through that and I did a an enormous amount of therapy. I went through a lot of programs that were very helpful.

[01:10:28]>> Shane Dawson ass [ __ ] >> Incredibly helpful for me. And then in 2019, Evan suggested that we sort of take a trip. And so we went around Europe for off and on about 6 months and we backpacked literally and >> Oh my god, dude. And then he had the audacity to come back to the States and cry on Piers Morgan that he doesn't own as many properties as he used to and he's running out of money.

[01:10:51]>> Jesus Christ. And and that was when I was able to without a hat, without glasses, without hiding in any way >> because no one gives us the world.

[01:11:04]>> You're washed.

[01:11:04]>> And I can tell you that we were stopped.

[01:11:07]>> Is that that guy from Nine Lives?

[01:11:08]>> 70 times a day by people who were so generous and so happy to see me and asking, "When are you going back to work?"

[01:11:17]>> Europe.

[01:11:17]>> This is all over Europe. All over.

[01:11:19]>> I don't believe that. I really don't believe that.

[01:11:21]>> Everywhere.

[01:11:22]>> Yeah. All over Europe. Where the [ __ ] did you go in Europe? A lot of [ __ ] Kevin Spy fans in Muldova. Or where where did you go, [ __ ] Europe.

[01:11:32]That's a continent, man. Oh, yeah. He wait he was in Israel. Wait, that's not Europe.

[01:11:37]>> But I feel like Europe is a more forgiving. It's an older culture. You know, they're >> the same way in the United States.

[01:11:44]>> They're cool with perverts.

[01:11:50]>> Not wrong. Not wrong at all. Who is that [ __ ] French pedophile act director?

[01:11:55]What? Why can't I remember his name?

[01:11:56]Roman Palansky. Yeah, there's one.

[01:11:59]>> It's been the same.

[01:12:02]>> Oh, there it is.

[01:12:02]>> It's been the same in the United States everywhere.

[01:12:05]>> That's funny, Bill. That's funny. He's also an actual pedophile who fled the country to escape being charged >> where I go. I know there's people online that that say nasty things, but I've not met one of them in real life. and a bunch of actors and directors like [ __ ] Quentyn Tarantino signed a [ __ ] letter to welcome him back into Hollywood or whatever a petition. It was insane, man.

[01:12:28]>> That is an interesting phenomena I've also experienced.

[01:12:32]>> And it's funny, you know, you want to say it back to the media and I I won't about, you know, anything because you just don't want to pick that fight with them. But sometimes when I see Trump just speak his complete internal monologue without, you know, doing things that it's just like he will say something and the one I'm thinking of is like I've wanted to say that. He he he just when >> like we have the hottest country in the world and two years ago we were a dead country and now we have the hottest country. Bill's always trying to say that but he just can't find the can't find the words. He was he somebody pissed him off in an interview and he just went, "You're a terrible person."

[01:13:14]>> Right. And it's like I can't deny I got you.

[01:13:18]>> And there's a moment where I would >> Yeah, cuz you're also an insecure man baby who can't handle someone saying no to you. It's why you're talking to Kevin Spy who is similar. Is Bill a Trumpy? He wants to be a liberal, but he's like met with the president and loves his personality and his jokes. Birthday boy.

[01:13:37]That was him on his birthday. looking spry.

[01:13:40]>> That's exactly what I was thinking.

[01:13:42]You're a terrible person. It's not a sincere question.

[01:13:45]>> It's a gotcha thing. It's a you know virtue signaling thing.

[01:13:50]>> Sure. Sure.

[01:13:51]>> You don't believe it yourself. But I don't >> Yeah.

[01:13:55]>> Not our president. He does that. Are you are you uh do you have plans for the 4th of July?

[01:14:02]>> I I don't have I haven't made >> Super interesting podcast question, Bill.

[01:14:05]>> As yet. Um you want to come over?

[01:14:09]>> Uh I I think there's a lot to celebrate.

[01:14:13]>> Yeah, I was just uh working on a piece for the show that says that exact same thing. Uh it's amazing that >> especially I don't want to keep picking on the kids, but the younger generations, >> they they just don't have good perspective either.

[01:14:29]>> Yeah. Why aren't they excited about the future? That's crazy, man. And it's almost like a sandwich is $16 and we can't buy a [ __ ] house. What?

[01:14:38]Why? Why is the young Why is the youth so angry?

[01:14:41]>> Much better they have it >> than people anytime before them.

[01:14:50]>> You heard it here, guys. Block surveillance cameras all over your local towns and everywhere you go. AI swamp YouTube shorts like $2,800 average rent.

[01:15:02]$5 gasoline per gallon. You should love all of these things because you have iPhone now. You have iPhone, so all of the other things are good, too.

[01:15:11]>> And how much better they have it here than almost anywhere else in the world.

[01:15:14]>> Yeah. I'm also very optimistic and I and I believe whatever I mean, look what I just said.

[01:15:21]>> I really love that Bill Maher has a really easy cushy life. So he then like enforces that on everyone and says, "America is the best country in the world because my life is awesome and that means that you can have an awesome life too. you just have to try rather than him getting completely lucky.

[01:15:35]>> I think is is is echoes what I mean by this which is that the the society that I have met, the society that I've been introduced to, the people that have come at me over the last 9 years have not been divisive and angry and pissed off and they >> see that's a problem though. I do think that's a problem. He should have had a lot more adversity in day-to-day interactions with people >> been so welcoming and lovely and loving that a I I'm so happy that that's the that's the society that >> where do I where do I fall on this scale?

[01:16:14]>> You fall you fall very much in the you have been incredibly supportive because Evan has told me >> Yeah.

[01:16:19]>> I know you've wanted me on this show for a long time. You've been very much on on on side and that means a lot to me. I'm Yeah, I'm keeping it real and not >> No, he's not >> letting you off the hook.

[01:16:29]>> Yeah.

[01:16:30]>> You know that because that's the reality. But again, we all go through life and the judgmentalness of like >> like he has more anger towards pro Palestinian protesters than he does a pedophile rapist Epstein affiliate.

[01:16:47]Dude, >> everything is a hanging offense or, you know, it's it's always a life sentence.

[01:16:52]It's like, no, things are proportionate.

[01:16:54]That's how the real law works. You know, not everything the death penalty.

[01:16:59]>> That's true.

[01:17:00]>> And it's just true. And I again that I >> Well, I I mean, I do think rape and, you know, pedophilia, I don't know. That one's a trickier subject, Bill.

[01:17:10]>> Hate to pick on the kids, but they just don't have any perspective about how how lucky they are. The idea that when we I we're around the same age, you I mean, I'm 70. I don't think you've hit that yet.

[01:17:22]>> I haven't yet.

[01:17:23]>> Okay, but you're right.

[01:17:25]>> I just known a member of the Congalles national football team. His halftamel were everywhere. That's awesome. That's sick as [ __ ] What up, Arun? Hope you don't mind.

[01:17:32]>> I'm 66.

[01:17:33]>> You look good. Thank you, sir.

[01:17:34]>> By the way, for for the stress that I must have been, you look good. Thank you, sir. You look like >> like you could, you know, I mean, play.

[01:17:45]>> Wasn't JD Vance on Club Random? I don't remember. I don't think so. Kind of funny that they ignore him. behind closed doors, they'll hang out with him.

[01:17:52]>> Play the, you know, at that age, again, we're close. All you can do is the best you can do is be like, not hard to look at.

[01:18:04]>> That's Is that the review? Not hard to look at.

[01:18:08]>> Is that terrible?

[01:18:09]>> No, not at all.

[01:18:11]>> For our age, I think that's pretty good.

[01:18:13]>> Sure.

[01:18:13]>> You know, >> yeah, >> we're we're not Glenn Powell.

[01:18:16]>> Oh, yeah. JD Vance was on the HBO show.

[01:18:18]Yeah. We never were. I mean, that's actually much more of an achievement for you in a way because like, you know, I was in commentary.

[01:18:26]>> God, the way he grabs the ice with his dirty old man hands. Ew. That goes in other people's drinks. Bill, grubby ass, nasty ass old man. Gh.

[01:18:38]>> I'm a comedian, but you were like playing leading man part.

[01:18:40]>> Pushed like five ice cubes and grabbed two. Well, and if I look at the actors that I grew up admiring, Spencer Tracy, Henry Fonda, Jimmy Stewart, Kagny, I mean, these actors had decades and decades and decades of being um at the top of their profession and and and were they doing the same things as you?

[01:19:01]>> Right. I think actors are better in their 50s, 60s when they get in that right there. There is something >> Yeah. Your the best is yet to come for you, Kevin. that is takes obviously decades to get to this sort of level of you know the old thing don't get caught acting you know where it's just it's just the most naturalistic kind of performance >> I'm also I'm at a point because of the last nine years where I had never done therapy before I never >> dude I'm sorry I got to I got to stop I can't I can't with this [ __ ] the Wheel.

[01:19:40]The wheel's dead to me. This was a terrible idea. I want to see Bill falling asleep by the end. There's an unlit joint that he will never smoke.

[01:19:48]>> Uh, they only do that in Texas now.

[01:19:53]>> No.

[01:19:54]>> Okay, let's see what the joint looks like at the end of the podcast.

[01:19:57]>> Except >> and the verdict is for the people, but but it must be said that you >> a lot of uh penance has been paid. Like there was a lot I'm sure there's just BEEN >> OH MY GOD >> A LOT of bad bad days and bad nights and >> but with penance comes also enormous I I'm enormously grateful and I've got Evan Loenstein in my life who is the most curious man I've ever known and the guy who by the way he spends so much time challenging opinions and challenging ideas and he challenges me all the time more than anyone and I'm enormously grateful to have him in my You're in love with this guy. Can't you see >> without question? I love him.

[01:20:40]>> Oh, but not hitting each other.

[01:20:43]>> But not in that way. Yeah. Not not in the the other way.

[01:20:47]>> Why not cute enough or >> I mean what what's your >> We just we just have we have a friendship that's gone 26 years.

[01:20:54]>> Steady boyfriend.

[01:20:55]>> I don't have a steady boyfriend, but I but I'm in the market.

[01:20:58]>> E.

[01:20:59]>> Well, don't no one wants to date Kevin Spy.

[01:21:04]>> I wasn't looking at you. was answering your question.

[01:21:06]>> You plainly were. Now get out of here.

[01:21:08]>> Bill is so sexually insecure. It's very uncomfortable.

[01:21:14]>> Thank you.

[01:21:14]>> Like, can he walk?

[01:21:15]>> Pleasure.

[01:21:17]>> Pleasure. Thank you so much. I got to see him walk.

[01:21:18]>> Absolutely.

[01:21:20]>> They cut cuz he [ __ ] ate [ __ ] as soon as he walked away. Okay. Well, everyone say thank you, Wheel, because that was the first episode of the Wheel of Wiiers. And I hope everyone enjoyed it.

[01:21:36]If you liked this video, uh, give it a like and maybe I'll do another Wheel of Wiiers episode with different stuff on it instead.