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Welcome to TSR Live, the at home edition. Okay, we are all in Chicago right now. I know by my crib it is storm sirens going off. Fellas, where are you checking in from and what's going on around you?
>> Oh yeah. Uh I I was making fun of the weather until [clears throat] I looked out the window and watching these trees move like they moving. I'm over here on the south side near Bronzeville and it is crazy. Yeah, the sirens just kicked up again by my house. I know Zach was showing us earlier there's some crazy storm damage already by his crib. So, we are safely at home right now. So, Roomies, we definitely gonna give you a show tonight and hopefully we keep power and we keep safe. Um, I think we wanted to take a look at some of the storm damage if we had if we had photos.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's Zach. That's by Zach's house.
>> Yeah, that is insane.
>> Yeah. entire tree ripped up out of the ground in Chicago right now. Um, these storms, they hit yesterday and it hasn't stopped yet.
>> Yeah. And for people that are not in Chicago, this is weird for us. We don't really have a lot of natural disasters.
So, when things like this happen, the city is like, what what's going on? The biggest thing we had to deal with is snow. Yes, we have it's the windy city, but we've never really seen wind like this right here.
>> Yeah, that is scary. Oh, I hope they pay some good car insurance. Okay.
>> Yeah, >> we got Zack back. Zack, you good?
>> Yeah, I'm good, man. As I know. Have you told everybody about the storms we're having here in Chicago? It's crazy.
>> Yeah, we were just a photo from by, you know, around your area where this tree was literally uprooted. You good over there?
>> Yes, we are. We are all good. We are safe. But yeah, it is really going down.
It's trees. It's tree all over the neighborhood. Trees are down. So, and they've been down. They gonna stay down because it's a lot of work to do in Chicago because a lot of trees are down.
>> All right. Well, we're going to get the show rolling while we have power and get our guests on in here because we got a packed show tonight. Roomies, we got to kick it off talking about the drama that has been on the timeline today and that is the love triangle heating up all over again with DeAndrea Sanders who sat down with the deep end with the LRae podcast and she didn't hold anything back about her relationship with her baby father Jack Whis. But you know, the internet never sleeps and this has everyone looking back at the mess. So now the internet is talking of course and the timeline is kind of split. Have you guys been able to see some of this? If not, let's take a look.
>> I know there was a little bit of drama between like, you know how they would say the love triangle between you and a deaf or you and a Drezy. I know you and Drezy was together for five to six years. Like that was I'm not going to lie, we always rooting for you and Dre.
So my thing is >> we kind of grew up together. You feel?
>> Exactly. And those are the most important relationships, you know, in terms of you becoming a man, she becoming a woman that age.
>> And those are the type of relationships where it's like >> a lot come with those type of relationships because you have to grow within the relationship, right?
>> And growing pains is hard sometimes. So it's like >> I feel like with me and with me and Drezy now, I got a lot of respect for Drezy. You know what I'm saying? Like don't take off yet.
>> Outside of anything, like >> the way that we ended was a little sloppy. Yeah. cuz it went online and it was random >> and I wasn't all the way >> my heart went all the way out of it. You see what I'm saying? Even though like in my mind I thought that I was ready for something else. Like >> you're not really ready for something else until you completely done with something.
>> Exactly.
>> You know what I mean? So it's like at that time being younger, how old I was, I just >> I was moving fast >> and I knew what I wanted cuz I wanted a son, but I also wanted a family. But I knew a son was at the top of my mind. It had been on the top of my mind since I was in a relationship with Dre.
>> Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, um, >> so you heard what he had to say there.
Tone Roomies, I want you to weigh in on this, too. When it comes to a high-profile celebrity relationship, do you think being completely public online helps or hurts the bond? Are you team A?
Drop a A in the chat if it hurts and you say they should keep their relationship private. Or are you option B and you say, "Let us know. Let's keep it real."
Uh, put a a or b in the chat. Tone, when you see uh Jaqu talking like this about Drezy, what do you think?
>> He miss her.
>> Okay, that's what it's giving.
>> I miss my baby. I want my baby back. I'm sorry I messed up. You know is is he understands media. He knew what he was doing and he was send he was sending one up to Drezy and we'll see what she responds. But as a person that's been in a uh public relationship, you 100% want to keep it private >> all the time. Private works. And Zach, I mean, I know Zach agrees about keeping a relationship private over public. But when you heard heard Jacques, we talked about it earlier, Jquis saying stuff to Drezy in that interview, what did you think?
>> Yeah, he was definitely saying, "Baby, come back to me. Come back to me." He was singing it, please. But I didn't like that he kind of threw his his his baby mama under the bus >> because, you know, don't make a already tough situation tougher, Jacquis. That would be my my warning to him. I understand that you want to confess your love. I understand that. But you also got to deal with the woman that you got a baby with all the time. And she can make nobody, Tone, you know this. Nobody can make your life harder than your baby mama.
That's the only those are the only women that's actually the only people in my life that can make me mad like they can irritate my soul that get me I'm been work I'm punching the air I'm walking back and forth I can't sleep is my child's mother any of my children's moms yes it gets it gets a little sticky I I just I I wonder did he did he maybe see Drezy because you know he performed at Tone Capone day I don't know I don't know if Drezy was in Chicago the same time he was in Chicago, but he sure took that booking awfully quick.
>> Oh, he loves Chicago and I can confirm that he's still very friendly with Drezy's family. I did see her mom at Tonka Pon Day where he was performing and she looked very proud of Jaquis. So, he did keep it cute with the family, which is a good sign if you trying to spin the block. Jaqu got the tea.
>> I ain't got no tea. Uhuh. I got some water. I GOT SOME WATER. But I'm just [laughter] I know I saw Drezy people there and I saw dry Quez in the same room. So hey, I hope that all good.
>> And the good thing about them, they young. So everybody gonna figure it out.
Y'all good. They gonna be good. DeAndre Long.
>> Yes, absolutely. All right, let's get to this though. Moving to the court, the New York Knicks are officially one win away from history after off such a wild one-point comeback victory last night.
Janet Brunson and the Knicks hold a commanding 32 to1 lead over Victor Wyamba. Uh, and it looks like that Wimby could be this this moment could be too big for him. I I I when I saw this and when they were up 30, the Spurs were up 30. I thought Wimby was going to walk away with this and they were going to come back and the Knicks did what they were supposed to do. And yeah, shout out to OG Noble.
>> I know a lot of people are giving the Knicks a lot of credit for this, which they have. They've had like four uh big comeback wins this entire playoffs. You know what I'm saying? They keep coming back and winning and similar to like the Bears did last year. You remember when the Bears kept coming back and we kept saying it was luck, but obviously it's something special with this New York team. I ain't going to lie. It's it's something special. They don't quit. They got a lot of dog in them and they're very deep. All right, but I blame the I blame the coaches because they went and shot like eight threes in a row, didn't get no buckets, and then, you know, they came back and won. I blame the players Wimby and definitely the Aaron Fox. If I am the Aaron Fox, you have to either win next two games to win this series or move cuz you're getting traded, buddy.
You out of here. He's out of here.
>> He was gone. Anyway, Kiki, when you when you heard I know you got a lot of brothers. Were they all excited and screaming when they watched the game?
>> Damn the brothers. I WAS EXCITED. OKAY.
YOU KNOW, I LOVE A SPORTS MOMENT WHEN IT GET EXCITING. I'M NOT watching the season, but I will watch the championship game. [laughter] >> Yeah. A little drink, a little buffalo dip. I was definitely locked in.
[laughter] So, for me, it is all about the celebrities who have been popping out courtside for the Knicks. I mean, the last game was super lit. You had Taylor Swift in the building, Kylie Jenner, Haley Bieber, Fad Joe, his daughter, everybody was in there. Um, and so Roomies, I do want to know in the comments, are you going with the Spurs or are you with the US? But when we talk about the Knicks, you cannot mention it without bringing up Jordan Woods because baby girl has been riding for the Knicks since her man has been holding it down.
Um, she's also been showing up at every game serving looks from head to toe. Her fashion is, and y'all know I love a custom piece. You know, I'm like I look custom. You put a little patch on it, put your name on it, put the team.
Jordan has your girls up with her fashion. Um, she even had like a custom bag that she's saying is like the good luck bag and people are super excited about seeing all the celebrities at the game. So, have y'all been seeing her fashions?
>> I have. I've seen her fashions, Kiki.
And we know you love a custom piece, something [laughter] with your name on it.
But hey, but the wildest thing though, have y'all seen these Knicks fans? These Knicks fans are going absolutely crazy.
I mean, they climbing up stuff. They broke the window on the on the Spurs bus when they lost on after game three.
Okay, Nicks fans are going absolutely nuts. Even it's going viral. They beating up uh Spurs fan ripping the jerseys off their back. It's been crazy.
And you know, it's been like a 53 year weight since the Knicks have have won and or yeah, since they won the championship and they ready to tear it up. So, I want to bring in a roomie to talk about it, man.
>> Let's get a roomie in.
Room A. How you doing?
>> Hey y'all.
>> Hey. Hey. What's up? What's up?
>> Good. How are y'all?
>> Good.
>> What's your name?
>> My name is Megan and I'm from the south side of Chicago.
>> We all shelter in place. [laughter] >> Yes. Yes. If you hear the noise, you already know what it is right now, >> right?
>> All right. So, what do you think about this the the championship and where we are? Are you going with the Knicks or the Spurs?
>> So, at first I was going with the I'm not going to say at first I'm not flip-flopping. I still want Wimbby to win this one. You know, he he young. I think he hungry. He looking good out there. However, just that experience, he ain't cutting it. He ain't finishing like he need to. So, after that win last night, I definitely think the Knicks, they deserve a title. They They deserve it. They just deserve it.
>> Yeah. And shout out to Jaylen Brunson.
is an absolute winner. Like a just a real winner. He won here in Chicago, won he won in college, and now he's going to win. Looks like an NBA championship.
This a solid dude. Uh but look, this this thing though, the ticket prices right now, everybody super insane. Now the finals costing thousands of dollars, my price is ruining the game. Is it is it ruining it for real fans? So the options are here. the crazy ticket prices are just pure greed replacing, you know, the true loud fans with rich people who don't even care about the team or option B. It's a huge historic event in a major city and if people are willing to pay that much to get in, you can't blame sellers for taking the money. What are you thinking? What do you think, >> man? So me personally, I have a season court size season in my house where I pay my mortgage. We gonna watch that every every game. However, if if the sellers is selling and the buyers are buying, I won't get mad at them. Listen, it's a win-win. And this some this ain't happening in over 50 years. So if you really invested, you gonna pay that money just to be in this place. So I I'm I'm with option B.
>> I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to go option A. I just feel like you are really doing a disservice to the heart to the fans who have spent years and years watching a losing franchise. You know what I'm saying? And still coming to fill up Madison Square Garden. And as soon as y'all get popping, soon as you get hot now, you want to go and charge $9,000 for the cheapest ticket to get in there. And I I I just don't I mean, unless you're a seasoned ticket holder, that's the only way you were already locked in. And I just think that's unfair to the people who really care about the Knicks. I think you got a whole bunch of I mean DJ Khaled was courtside looking at his phone the whole time. You know what I'm saying? It's just become a a big spectacle. I mean even Trump wanted to show up all of a sudden and make them lose a game. So it's just I I I don't know. I don't think you should do it like that. I understand it going up a bit, but come on, man. 5,000 >> for the nose bleeds. That's crazy.
>> Yeah, that's wild.
>> Catch me.
Nah, I mean I'm going I'm going like option B, man. You know, it's worth the price. And then we talking about New York City. This is New York. We talking about the number one market in the country. Everything is expensive in New York. So those ticket prices represent New York City. It's it's the most expensive city to live in. Everything costs a lot. I mean, gas probably is crazy in New York. Like I mean, this New York prices are New York prices. And the people you only people that really were complaining about these prices were people outside of New York cuz they're used to being price g cuz it's kind of the thing in New York.
>> Okay. That's why they fighting all the time. They mad.
Yeah. Need to leave bring the prices down. Let some people in. That's why they out there beating up people because it's too high to get in. But okay.
[laughter] >> Outside.
>> Well, thank you. Appreciate you joining us. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot for your tape.
>> Thank >> All right. Now, listen y'all. Our first guest is making waves on the Real Housewives of Atlanta. She is an entrepreneur, a powerhouse, and a partner lighting up the screen alongside Porsche Williams. Let's welcome Sway to the show. Sway, what's going on?
Hey, Sway. How are you?
>> Up. We gotta get sound for Sway.
>> There we go. How yall doing? Y'all good?
>> Yeah, we hear you, Sway.
>> We are good. Now, Sway, I don't know if you saw it, but we've been debating this wild NBA Finals ticket prices at Madison Square Garden. I mean, the cheapest seats are costing thousands of dollars.
And I want to know, as a successful entrepreneur who knows all about premium service and business, where do you stand on this?
>> Man, I agree with you. I mean, I I get it to a certain extent, you know, when the demand is there. That is when you can increase your price. So, I do understand. I don't know what the price was previously, but we literally were looking up tickets about an hour ago and it was like 26,000 like six rows back on the on the floor cuz me and Porsche was thinking about going and I was like, man. But, I mean, I guess you can do it when the demand is there. You know, they're paying for it. They packing it out. So, it's not really much you can say, but you know, heck, it's business, I guess.
26,000 for the >> 26,000 and it's probably 28,000. It's been going up like every hour it seemed like.
>> Wow, >> man.
That's insane. Dripping the same ball as before.
>> Okay. [laughter] >> But it's madness out there. I've been seeing the city is going crazy. So, I'm happy for the city of New York.
>> Absolutely.
>> So, you rooting for the Knicks sway or the Spurs?
>> I think I'm rooting for the Knicks just because it's been a long time coming and I just like seeing the city light up.
So, I'm I'mma go go with the Knicks this time.
>> Okay. All right. Well, you know, we've been watching this season unfold on Bravo and Porsha wasted no time introducing you to the group of ladies.
So, after coming on the show, being in the spotlight, >> who is giving you the warmest welcome on the on the show?
>> You know what? I would say the warmest welcome probably Cynthia. I would say Cynthia and Fedra. I mean, they all did when I met them. Um, but I'll tell if I had to pick one or two, I would say Cynthia. She's real genuine person.
>> Okay. Who's the one person that you had to like give a side eye to or kind of keep your guard up with at first?
>> Well, at the time, everybody was cool.
So, I didn't really have to side eye anybody, but now watching the show, I'm I'm almost going crossey. I got to side eye the cast. I'm like, I need some glasses. [laughter] Everybody at this point. So, but yeah.
And when I when I met them all, it was it was cool. So, I didn't, you know, wasn't in the middle of any tension or drama or anything like that.
>> Okay, now we got to talk about it. Baby Daddy Dennis is also on the show and he's a massive part of Porsche's life because of the co-parent PJ. Um, but he's never been shy around the cameras.
Dennis know how to turn it on, honey.
So, coming into this dynamic as the new partner, how has it been like navigating the boundaries with Dennis being a part of it, too? Yeah, I mean we're still, you know, we haven't had too many interactions, but the few we had have been have been cool. You know, I feel like for the most part, he he respects the relationship. So, I don't sense any bad energy or any issues, which I'm thankful for that because I don't really like, you know, any any baby daddy issues, but I think they have a good um uh co-parenting relationship, which I truly support. Um, so everything's going good so far, and I'm very confident that it will remain that way. So, everybody's being respectful.
>> All right.
>> Yeah. That's dope. Now, Sway, the ladies love to stay in Porsche's business, and early on, they were doing a lot of talking about her dating roster, specifically trying to, you know, piece together what was happening with Mike versus her connection with you.
>> How did it feel watching those early episodes play out?
>> Um, it didn't really feel a way. I was fully aware, you know, when we actually filmed it. So, watching it, it's not like it was anything new to me, you know, and you know, that's how life goes. We all date, you know, she was dating, I was dating. We date until we find the right person. So, I didn't feel a way about it at all. It was just a part of the experience.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> Knew what was coming. Sway was like, "Let her go ahead get them out the way.
>> Get it out the way real quick and wrap it up real quick and come on home."
[laughter] >> Now, we can get into the good part of the season.
>> But Sway, we know you are a mogul.
Before the world knew you on this Real Housewives platform, you've been a mogul on the move. What made you get into the salon suite business?
>> Yeah, so I grew up in the industry. My sister, my mother, they were um hair stylist and braiders actually in the industry and it was an industry I always wanted to be in. I remember just when I was young going to the barber shops and salons and saying, "Man, I want this career. It seemed like they got that free. They worked their own schedule.
They get to wear what they want to wear.
Uh me being a tomboy working in corporate, I was like, I don't want to have to dress up and all that stuff."
So, um, I originally was going to open a salon or a barber shop, but once I saw the salon suite concept and how lucrative it is and how it's pretty much like real estate in the in the hair and beauty industry and being a landlord, I said, "Okay, let me go that route because again, it's it's less handsoff.
It's semi-passive and just more lucrative overall." So, I work in the suite first. That's when I first was introduced to the concept. Um, and then me when I see something I and I see the potential in it, I just go full blast into it. So I opened my first salon suite with a partner. Uh we parted ways.
Then I started the Encore brand. I also became the first blackowned salon suite brand to gain franchiseor status. So we have three locations that are franchise locations. Uh and now I teach people. So I really love just teaching people how to do exactly what I did in this industry.
>> Now you know we all been googling you and I've been seeing some of your old photos as a barber. YOU WAS LIKE UM CUTTING T pays hair at one point too, right?
>> Yeah, I used to cut T pay's hair. I used to go to his house. So, I cut a couple of celebrities. Um, but I really focused on my more loyal, consistent clients, you know.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> I was pretty good, you know. I would do the designs. I could draw Bart Simpson, the beach scene, all that stuff. So, I was really artsy with it. And I was pretty good at it.
>> Can you do um do you do man units?
>> I did not. I kind of got the industry right before, but I will say if I was still in the industry 100% I would have been doing man units for sure.
>> Well, Tone, go ahead. Now, just you need to get in.
>> On you, Tom. We can get a little prank on there.
>> Wait, I'm happy being bald. I'm happy being bald. That's just that's that's him messing with me. I got all y'all got hair on this screen. I'm the only one that's got this handicap up here. It's all right though.
>> Look nice and smooth. You don't got >> That's it. That's all I ask for. I'm good. I'm good. But I mean, you're doing a ton of things. And also author. So tell the roomies about this book, Sweet Victory.
>> Yeah. So, I have a book called Sweet Victory. Just basically sharing my story. I think a lot of people, a lot of people don't know my story. You know, a lot of people see successful people and think it just happened overnight. And so, I think it's important to let people know they can relate to you. And I think reading that book, they will see, you know, it will resonate with people and they'll see, okay, you know, Sway went through a lot of the stuff that I went through. So, I can do it too because a lot of times we count ourselves out. So, I have a book called Sweet Victory that's coming out in August and just super excited to share my story with with the world, you know, because I consider this a lot. I've done so much in my life and I've been through so much. I wear this big old smile. People probably don't even believe the stuff that I went through. So, I think it's important just to, like I said, show people that you can relate to them and no matter their situation or where they come from, they can do the same thing.
So, I have the book coming in August. I also am a developer. So, um I build h homes throughout the state of Georgia and I also own a restaurant in Atlanta called Ann cheese where we have gourmet grilled cheese sandwiches. So, I got my hands in a few things. Just trying to diversify the >> Damn lady. Yeah, >> I'm not doing nothing. [laughter] >> Gotta keep the ball rolling. Once you learn how to make money, you got to learn how to grow it. So, you got to keep, you know, planting those seeds and and and diversifying. So, that's what I'm >> You love that. I love that. That's very cool. Very cool.
>> Yeah, I gotta get I gotta do something else. Um, [laughter] all right, Sway, we want you to stick around for this next TSR. Great debate.
and Roomies, we definitely need you to chime in in the chat and we want to know um it has to do with with household habits. All right, so is making the bed every morning a mandatory life requirement or a waste of time? All right, put in the chat option A make it immediately. It sets the tone for the entire day and feels better when you crawl back in or are we going option B, leave it unmade? You're just going to get back in it and mess it up anyway.
sway. Which which option you take?
>> Option A. All day. You got to set the tone for a day. I always say how you do anything is how you do everything. So from waking up and just set fixing your bed, it sets the tone for everything else. I mean, I can imagine me walking in a room and the bed is messy. It's like you kind of you setting the tone in that way too. Today probably is going to go messy. So I I preach that all the time 100%. Get up and make your bed for sure. So I'm going with option A.
>> Now Sway, I got a question for you. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not going to say that this is from I don't I don't know Porsche's sleeping habits, but let's just say that you wake up early cuz you a grinder. You a hustler. You get to the money. You get up early. You trying to make your bed, but you got somebody in there sleep. Like how do you deal with it like that? How do you >> I'mma kiss my baby and I'mma fix my side of the bed.
>> Oh, you fix your side. Okay.
>> Fix her. I'mma fix it. But I still t it's just a habit. I gotta at least just pull my sheets up, my blanket up and fix my side of the bed. For sure.
>> Okay. Makes sense. I like that. I I like it. I I mean, I'mma tell you ladies, you come in my house and make up my bed, I love you forever. That's one of my favorite things. I go to the bathroom and >> that I don't I Yeah, I I kind of hop up and go because I I kind of hop up and go, but I do like what you said and I've heard other people say that like you need to make your bed and it it kind of helps start the day out and it it good habits. Because it's like you you check one thing off the list. It's small, but it adds to the bigger picture. Like, okay, I accomplished one goal. I did one thing. Now, let me do something else.
You know what I'm saying?
>> Yeah. So, I've heard a lot of successful people say that. So, guess what? I'm making a bed up tonight.
>> Make your bed tomorrow. Okay. Send me a picture when it's done. [laughter] >> Come on, slave. Teach the people. Help them get some money. And I know we're gonna keep seeing you on this screen throughout the season.
What did you think when you saw those AI pictures of you and Porche where everybody thought y'all were engaged?
>> Oh my goodness. I literally got a text today. People really First of all, I said, "Dang, y'all couldn't AI my face better than that. Y'all be looking like me." It's crazy. I ain't going to lie. AI is crazy. And what's crazy is no matter how much it's not true, there's somebody that's going to always believe it. There's always people who still think we're engaged. But that's the the cons to AI is people can just make up anything. So they've done it twice. They said we were engaged twice. So, I'm like, "Y'all will know when we're engaged." I think. I don't know. But >> I hope y'all I hope y'all let us know.
>> You know, Blond gonna know first. Y'all gonna know from us first if we're engaged for sure. So, it's just one of them things. At first, I was like, "Dang, that sucks." But now I see how it goes. So, it's one of them things where it's like, it is what it is, you know?
>> We love it.
>> Okay. We'll look out for the announcement.
One thing about Porsha, we love her, but she keep a ring. Yes, >> okay. That's a real out there.
[laughter] >> Anything else you want to tell the roomies where they can keep up with you, >> man? Oh, yeah. Definitely follow me on all social media platforms. Sway_thepro.
Also on YouTube. I do weekly free events where I teach people how to get into the slime industry the right way. Um, and just to motivate the people and tell people, look, you know, success is 97% just believing in yourself. So, whatever it is that you do, believe in it, put in the work, and just keep going because most people don't fail, they just quit too soon. So definitely check me out if you're just looking for motivation, inspiration. You're gonna find it all across my page along with a few splashes of me and my beautiful baby for sure. So >> yeah.
>> Yes. We love the content, honey.
Especially on the private jet.
[laughter] >> Thank y'all.
>> Thank you so much for joining us, Sway.
>> Absolutely. Y'all have an amazing night.
>> You too.
>> Good. She was cool.
>> Very cool. Very cool.
She was inspiring me. I'mma make my bed up. You need to go get you a LLC or something.
>> I know something. [laughter] >> Zack's Chicken Snack. Zach's Chicken Shack is on the way.
>> I like that. I like that.
>> I love it. Hey guys, let's go ahead and get to the next G guest. If you want to talk about true longevity in Hollywood, you have to talk about our next guest.
He has been delivering unforgettable performances since he was a kid and has not stopped yet. He gave us one of the greatest Disney soundtracks of all time, starred as Michael Jackson, and acted in sitcoms that shaped our childhood. He continues to be one of the most respected actors in the game and is wrapping up the last season of The Shy.
Put some claps in the chat for the incredibly talented and my brother Jason W. What up, boy?
My dog, can you hear us?
Jay, can you hear us?
Can you hear us?
>> Can't hear us.
>> I don't think he can.
>> You gotta go out and come back in, Jay.
You got to go out and come back in.
>> Text sometime.
>> Yeah, I'mma have to text him and tell him.
>> Yeah, that's dope. But it's just, you know, first of all, Jason Weaver is Every time I see uh uh Jason Weaver, I'm like, he's such a legend. You know what I'm saying? He's such a legend.
>> He's such a legend.
So excited. I've been, you know, I've been asking to talk to Jason Weaver forever.
>> You have to call him. YOU GOT SIMBA IN YOUR PHONE. THAT'S CRAZY.
>> RIGHT. [laughter] >> I was like, >> we got y'all over there.
>> Y'all safe. Otherwise, >> yes, I think I think we safe, Kiki. Um, but I don't know. Keep us in your prayers. Um, I'm getting ready to go buy all the toilet paper from CVS that they got. I'm gonna buy all the water because that's what you do when there's a storm and all the bread >> and the eggs for what? I don't know, but that's what you do. [laughter] I'm not worried about this storm ain't nothing, man. And it look like the sun like I'm good, man. It's gonna be good. But to the roomies though, quick story.
Jason Weaver, even though younger than me, he was one of the people that really taught me about how you can make it in entertainment. Like I I actually got a chance to see a person really make it an entertainment. That's my brother >> and has been making it the entire time, you know. Um he's been a part of some iconic things. There he is.
>> What's up y'all?
>> Hey, [laughter] how y'all doing?
Hey man, blessed highly favor. What's up, boy?
>> What's happening on the >> show?
These are my these are my people. My They just like family, man. As Kiki and Zach B. We on TSI Live, man.
[clears throat] >> I'm I'm already familiar. I'm big fans of y'alls, man. I I check out the show.
It definitely comes through my feed on Instagram. And uh salute to you guys, too. I'm so happy to be here to talk with y'all. So, thank y'all for having me.
>> Absolutely. for being here.
>> Absolutely. So Jay, now like you just recently mentioned how much the cast truly means to you outside of film and now the show officially is is coming to an end this summer after nearly a decade on the screen.
>> Now what was that energy like during those final days and how does it feel to say goodbye to this incredible family that you've been a part of for so long?
I think it's sound dropped. We sound dropped.
>> Yeah, I think somebody called him.
>> Yeah, hold up. We We can't hear you. I think somebody called you.
>> Go out and come back in.
>> You gotta go out and come back in. Yeah, you gotta go. That's cool.
>> Technology, homies. Technology. We streaming tonight. And while we get Jason back though, guys, I want to give you this update. Porsha Williams was watching when Sway was on and Porsha hopped in the comments on IG. She said >> she said they ain't gonna know nothing.
Third time is the charm. Lol. So when she gets engaged this way, Porsha telling us her business. So [laughter] join in the chat. We got to get you on the show, Porsha.
>> You didn't think Porsha was gonna join it, man. I knew that was happening. I knew Porsha was somewhere on that.
She watching what everybody was doing.
Oh, I definitely >> For sure. For sure. When I saw her comment, I'm like, "Oh, Porsha, we got to get you on the show now."
[clears throat] >> And I get her, though. Third time's a charm. That's why I be trying to tell Kiki. Third time.
>> You do.
>> I got two more time. [clears throat] >> I'm only on my way to my first one.
>> You gonna be good. You know what I'm saying?
>> I be on my third one by now. I'm not gonna lie. [laughter] Oh, you have a husband every couple seasons and life just to KEEP IT SPICY.
THAT'S WHY I LOVE WATCHING Porsha really cuz she didn't had like 17 different lives, you know, since we known her. I love watching stuff like that. Like girl, [laughter] >> you said keep it spicy.
>> Keep it spicy. I gotta catch up. No, I'm just playing. But look like we get Jason back.
>> I don't want I I you know, I just want me one one wife one day, one time. When is the day?
>> We don't believe you to.
>> Why not?
>> We just don't. But >> believe I just put something in the chat, man. Put a some some praying hands if y'all believe me, man. I'm telling I'm I do want to get married. I just It got to be right.
>> I get it, man. I get it.
>> Right, man. I do. I do.
>> I think you like the idea. I think you I think you enjoy the idea. You know what I'm saying? But I don't know if you really want that.
>> I don't want a wedding.
>> Yeah.
How much cost? No, I want none of that.
I don't want none of that price tag. But you [laughter] how much that cost. No >> child. That's nothing to you.
>> We gonna have a good old reception sponsored by Hennessy. It's gonna be a time when [laughter] >> Now that's what I want. Now I ain't gonna lie to you. Now that's what I want.
Oh yeah.
>> Oh yeah. It's gonna be all right. We got back in here. I because you know it's it's a lot I can really sit and tell you guys it's a lot it's a lot of great questions we could ask just because of the fact of Roomie it because I've seen his work habits and I you know I was out when he was I was out there and we you know I was staying staying with him when he was you doing um smart guy and I remember we'd be partying in the living room partying women hey every well yeah it was a lot it was a lot we having a good time >> here we will go crazy. What are you talking about?
>> I'm telling a story. I'm telling the story. I got to finish it. Jay, I'm giving you I'm giving you flowers. He will go and lock himself in his room and just not come out. Then we go to set in the morning. We go to set in the morning and they had it. It's called being on book or off book. Jason would know his lines. Everybody else would be reading on reading the script. Jason would put it down. He knew his lines before everybody. And I just I watch how the discipline that he had every day with his acting career. You can just see why why he is where he is today.
>> I appreciate that, Toad. I That's crazy.
You remember that, man? Like he of course he talking about the smart guy days. Um no, man. That that was an experience like even having y'all out there with me and being able to see like what it was on the dayto-day like my routine and just to have that that brotherhood and that camaraderie and that support even while being like disciplined and focused and in the moment of working on that show because when you do sitcom TV it's really well back then when sitcom TV was a thing it was really fastpaced energetic uh you had to perform at a high level so like you the the capacity mentally would just like kind of exhaust you at different times. But I remember during the time when you know Tone was out there and I remember Sweep and them all came out and Yang and uh I think Boog even came out too one time like just to have that support from my brothers. Um that really meant a lot. It made the job even easier and a lot more fun too because we we had a great time. We really did. [laughter] Jason, >> I mean you you you know how rappers they you be like, "Man, this rapper is a good beat picker." Like they they pick good beats. You a good script picker. Like you always you always on something that lasts a long time, something that's like impactful, something that got the cult.
Like how do you choose scripts or how do these scripts find you?
>> Man, I'mma keep it real with you, bro.
like, and I appreciate you you sharing that or expressing that, but I can't even take credit for that because, you know, it's hard enough as an actor getting a job first and foremost. Um, and then also being able to be a part of work or films or shows that really resonate and connect with people, that that's such a rarity. So, you know, it it may sound cliche to a lot of people when I say it, but it really is the truth. Like I give all of the the praise to God for that because I'm not in control. Like all I do is just I put my best foot forward every day. Any self tape or any audition or opportunity that's thrown in front of me where I feel I can go in there and execute, I just try to put my best foot forward and and lead with a spirit of just um you know, just creativity and and openness to collaborate. And I I I guess because I lead with that kind of energy, um it it kind of just shows up in the work and it helps me align with with other people who are either likeminded or on the same spiritual or creative frequency and then we're all able to create something really really dope together. So it's, you know, [clears throat] so so much of the business is really that it's preparedness, meeting opportunity, but it's a lot of times like taking shots that you don't even know how they going to drop. You know what I'm saying? You just taking a shot. You feel me?
>> Yeah.
>> Absolutely. And Jason, you when we talk about God giving you those scripts, you were Michael Jackson in the first movie.
Now, we're seeing the new Michael break box office records, but like, have you watched the movie? I know you have. And what are your thoughts seeing the new role and Jafar play Michael? Did it kind of remind you of when you stepped into the role as Michael?
Well, first of all, I gotta say, no, I definitely saw the film and and I loved it. And the the thing that I I loved about it was that it created its own tone and its own presence, you know, as it relates to the the grand scale of telling the Jackson family story and Michael Jackson. I thought that they were able to set themselves apart and plant their own flag, you know, in the soil of greatness, you know, that is the Jackson family. And you know, I I I honestly feel that everybody who has contributed in some kind of way performing or portraying a member of the Jackson family and particularly Michael, you got to give everybody credit for stepping out on faith like that and or taking a leap of faith like that and stepping out creatively to go like, "Hey, I'm portraying Michael Jackson.
Love it or hate it, but I'm doing it."
You know what I'm saying? Oh, my bad. Is that feedback? That's that's that's that's that's Chicago. We all getting emergency alerts.
>> Oh, is that Amber Alert?
>> We're all weather alert. It's a weather alert.
>> Oh, it's the weather. That's right.
Because it is bad weather up there.
>> Yes.
>> Y'all good? I don't want y'all to get swept away by a tornado while I'm sitting. [laughter] >> No, I just playing. But no, but but on a on a real note though, like you know, everybody I think who has put forth, you know, an effort in helping to tell that that amazing family story, they ought to be commended and applauded. Um, you know, cuz we've all tried our best to just, you know, put our stamp on it and and and show through our performances our gratitude and how much the Jackson family and Michael Jackson in particular has influenced us. So, you know, salute to Jafar. You know, I know that's Michael's nephew, so it's close to home, but man, the way that he was able to to portray Michael and I mean, every subtle mannerisms, the speaking voice, the >> the spirit, you know what I'm saying? He killed it. And I honestly and I said that cuz I put out a um a film or or not a film, but a little short when I went to the uh the Jackson family house in Gary. Uh shout out to LT, my boy. Um, Jacob Latimore, my man Dex came out with us. Eric Bellinger was there with us.
Um, but I I was explaining on the um on the little film or the the little video that we shot, you know, it's this is just a time to celebrate them. And I'm glad that the Jackson family is getting an opportunity to, you know, receive their flowers in a real way with a new generation, being able to embrace them and their greatness and their legacy. And I'm just honored that my name in any kind of way is mentioned within that circle of greatness. Like to be associated with it, it's just uh it's been one of the the greatest blessings and honor of my life.
>> And you met Michael Jackson, right?
>> Yeah. I >> How was that?
>> That was cool. I mean, it was it was really random. It was quick. Um it was on set of the Jacksons and um it was just one of those things where they were like hey you know because they they weren't trying to disrupt the set because that's what Michael was >> Michael Jackson so he would he could literally >> you know make a guest appearance on uh an actual movie set or a film set and he would create pandemonium even in that kind of environment with working professionals. So, even when he came there to briefly meet me, it was just a thing of, "Hey, Michael's in his trailer." They whised me off real quick while we had a break, I think, while we were on lunch break. And when I walked in the trailer, I saw um a gentleman that I thought was like a older white dude that had on like, you know, um um like a button-up shirt and and I and when I was looking initially, I was like, man, who is this? Like, why would they why would they bring me here? And then when I looked closer and looked at his eyes, I was like, "Oh, oh my god."
Like, "That's" [laughter] And then I And then I just um and I I you know, I just remember really just shaking his hand. I was kind of just in shock. It was like a a whirlwind of thoughts that were going through my mind because I totally wasn't expecting to meet him.
>> So I was just kind of caught off guard and I had so many questions that I wanted to ask. That's what I do remember. But I think the main question that I wanted to ask, he had just answered. He was like, "Hey, you're doing a great job. I know this is a lot of pressure being in this environment, but I've been able to see some of the dailies you're doing. I'm I'm so glad like that you're a part of this production. I'm glad that I chose you."
>> Oh.
>> Oh, we lost them.
>> So good.
>> IT WAS SO GOOD. [laughter] I BLAME TITO. TITO UNPLUGGED it on. I mean, >> SHUT UP AND MESS UP the internet.
[laughter] Rest in peace, Tito. I didn't mean to say Tito.
>> Mess up the internet.
>> You ain't got no sense.
>> He is full of stories like that. That is that that's a being his friend and just and you know and I don't want you know we're journalists by trade so you don't want to interview your friend every time you talk he talks with you like he starts telling the story like yo uh hey tell him about what happened with this or what happened with that stuff.
>> I mean I mean like like he's the reason I met Usher like I we remember we went in Atlanta and Jason she was like man we gonna go over Usher house. He was like, "Man, he's about to he's about to drop his new single, You Make Me Want." And they put it on the radio going against Master One of Master Peas joint.
>> Sorry y'all.
>> Yeah, I was tell do not disturb on.
Evidently, I didn't. Forgive me, man.
I'm on status these days. [laughter] That's the type of life that I'm on. I have no tech savvy whatsoever. I'm just all I know how to do.
Oh.
>> Oh, >> he calling Jason. Somebody is calling that phone. That's why >> they see him on here.
>> They see him on here.
>> Oh my god, man.
>> Come on, man.
>> You better, man. Everybody seeing you. They're like, I see you, boy. I see you.
>> Hold on.
>> This is horrible, man.
>> That's all right. We got >> It's all right, man.
>> Y >> Oh, he can't hear us.
>> Oh, man. Let me let me hit y'all right back. My bad.
>> Okay.
>> All right. My friend.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And just to finish the story is that we got a chance and that's how I got that's how I got cool with Usher. So I was always able to interview Usher because of that one moment. Like it I mean he's one of my closest friends and and and just to see the level of just professionalism and just raw talent come together is it's is crazy to even see.
>> Yeah. That's dope, man. I mean, I I got excited, you know. I get excited when people out. I'm >> I'm trying I f it out a little bit. I'm trying to be cool. [laughter] >> That's what's up, bro.
>> I went to the club. So, look, I went to the club with Tone, Kiki, right? So, I'm at I'm in the club with Tom and he was like, "Yeah, I'm about to pull up, boy.
Don't worry. Me and me me and Jay about to pull up." I said, "I don't know who Jay is." You know what I'm saying? All right, cool. So, Tone pull up. It's It's him and uh Jason Weaver. Now, mind you, my family reunion's in town and I got my my cousins and family with me.
>> So, I had to So, I we got a booth and we're and J and Tone and Jason walk in.
My cousin lose his mind. He like, "Coug," I said, "You better not." I I I pull I grabbed the T. You better not embarrass me in here. Act like you got some sense.
like you got some sense. Sit down.
>> Keep it together.
>> Keep it together.
>> Sorry y'all. I'm sorry. I don't know what's going on with this phone. My bad.
>> It's all good. It's all good.
>> But no, but but quickly just ending that story. No, it was it was amazing opportunity uh to get to meet Michael and you know to just receive his blessing and to know that I was on the right track you know with my performance and my portrayal of him and that's all that really mattered to me and that allowed me to kind of just be in the moment and to breathe and to you know just really enjoy the opportunity and the blessing that I that I was in at that particular time. So I'm so grateful to Michael for that. You know God rest his soul. Um, I really really appreciate him for, you know, even giving me the opportunity like that cuz it essentially changed my life. It it it really was the first time that people saw me presented on a grand scale like that where I was literally like I invaded people's homes for like two or three nights where I was able to perform and and um and show the world what my god-given talent was. So, I owe that opportunity to Michael. Uh, I owe that that that opportunity to the to the Jackson family, Germaine and Mrs. Jackson, Mr. Jackson, God rested. So, everybody from the family, like the Jackson family and and Michael just been a blessing to me and my family. So, I'm I'm so glad that they're now just experiencing uh this new wave of appreciation uh and celebrating their legacy like that.
>> Absolutely. Now, let's talk about your character on the Shai. Uh, and this is a a different a different type of character for you and even the way people respond to you. I mean, it's always more of a comedic kind of funloving character. Now, Sh is a different type of character. Talk about that.
>> Shout is definitely a different type of character um than anything that I played in the past. You you're right, Tone. Um, I mean, because you know, you you've been with me since the day in the beginning with this thing. So, you know, traditionally, a lot of the roles that I've played in the past have been kind of comic reliefs uh to bring a certain amount of levity to a scene um in certain areas to ground a scene more, especially when working with uh novice actors, if you will, or actors that are still kind of cutting their teeth and developing their chops. I'm usually or traditionally the actor that's kind of brought in to serve in that capacity.
Um, with the Shai, what has been different about that experience and and rewarding in so many ways is that I haven't had to come to that set having to be like an anchor in any kind of way or a veteran player, you know what I'm saying, for the rest of the cast to kind of match their performances towards like there was nothing but legendary talent on that set. Um, and if they weren't veteran legendary talent, they were just legendary talent in their own right for the sake of the fact that they have these amazing abilities and are like triple threats. Damn near every actor on that show sings, dances, acts, you know what I mean? So, um, I was just amongst greatness and to be able to bounce ideas off of one another. Um, to be able to work with actors who took the craft just as seriously as you did. I mean, there were days Tone would tell you because, you know, me and Tone, we people, we family. So, we hang out and Tone would call me some days and be like, "Yo, what you doing, man? You know, we got a uh an event over here. If you want to come through, come hang." But I would be like, "Yo, Tone, I'm I'm actually me, Rolando, you know, Luke, Jacob, we about to go rehearse, man. We got a big scene tomorrow. We doing like a a a brother circle, men's circle tomorrow. Um, and it's important that we really lock this scene down and make sure that we're, you know, that we're all on the same frequency and on the same page with this scene.
>> So, we would do a lot of homework like that together, man. It was a lot of just attention to detail that was um that was implemented into our everyday performances and practices on set.
>> And just the uh the love was there, man.
And everybody genuinely respected and loved one another. And I think that's what people really feel when they look at the show. I think that's what's really connecting with people. On top of the fact it's brilliant writing um produced very very well and directed very very well. Shout out to our crew.
Anybody from the crew of the Shai that's watching this right now. salute to all of them because, you know, yeah, we get all the accolades and the awards and, you know, and all the positive feedback um from the audience because we're the ones that are visible and at the forefront, but man, it's it's not only us. It's the crew members. It's those people showing up at 4, 5, 6 in the morning, setting up lights, making the catering, preparing the craft service table, transporting equipment back and forth. It's all of those unsung heroes that should get just amount just the same amount of credit uh as we do because it it was a team effort and we all worked really really well together.
So I'm very proud of uh of the work that we did on the Shai for sure.
>> Absolutely.
>> Speaking of the shy, let's go ahead, man. Let's do a round of what we calling the shy way. We're gonna give you two words and you tell us how which word is the shy way. All right. Of course. Say that again.
>> So, we going to do something called the Shyway. So, we gonna give you we're going to give you two words and you tell us is it if it's the Shyway or not.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
>> All right.
>> Is it car or car?
>> Car. [laughter] >> There it is.
It's K. Yeah. And mine slips out every once in a while. I thought I lost it when I went to California. I thought I lost it. I started saying car. I start pronouncing things with the R, but when I get upset or agitated or frustrated, it'll come.
[laughter] Don't cuss, man. Get in the car. Yeah, I do that all the time. So, yeah, for sure.
>> All right. What about pop or soda?
>> Pop.
>> Of course.
>> Of course.
>> That's I always know when I'm out of town and I may hear somebody placing an order at a fast food restaurant. They may be ahead of me. and they say, "Yeah, let me get a pop." I'll be like, "Hey, where you from?" And you're like, "Oh, man. OH, YOU WAIT, MAN. I'M from the crib." I'm like, "Oh, for sure."
>> No doubt. All right. What we got? Uh, gym shoes or tennis shoes?
>> Well, I say gym shoes.
>> Yeah, absolutely. It's gym shoes all day.
>> I say gym shoes. I've never said tennis shoes. Yeah, gym shoes for sure.
>> All right. Now, these next options are your personal preference. Are are you are you going Cubs or socks? I see you got the Cubs hat on.
>> Hey man, I get a lot of flack for this because I [clears throat] am a Southside. I get a lot of flack for this. But listen, here's my here's my excuse. Okay, I grew up watching WGN TV.
Okay, and looking at the Cubs, that was my thing, man. when I would be home from school or when I'd be working and I couldn't go to regular school, I would be at home and I would look at the Bozo the Clown show and at the Bozo the Clown, usually at like noon or 120, a Cubs game was coming on. And then Harry Kerry was my guy. And then I grew up watching Shawn Dustin, uh, who else? The Hawk, uh, Ron Samberg, like that was my squad. So, I'mma say because I grew up in the 80s during a time when Chicago Cubs baseball was really really something. It mattered to kids like me.
That's the reason why I go with the Cubs. But I got nothing but love for the socks too. Like I went to a game recently with Rolando who's a socks fan.
Shout out to Rando Boyce. Me, Ronaldo Cortez. Shout out to Cortez, Jacob Latimore. We all went to uh to rate Field and we had a ball, man. Like much love to the Socks. I still love y'all too because when it's all said and done, it's all Chicago. So, I love all my teams from the crib. But I gotta say like when I go look at the game, I do go to Wrigley for sure.
>> Okay. What about are you team out west or out south?
>> Now, what happened to the sound?
>> I gotta come back again.
>> Can you hear us?
>> I gotta come back again. The sound.
>> You can't hear us.
>> Can you hear me?
>> Yeah, I can hear everybody.
>> Can you hear me?
>> Yes. Yeah.
>> Okay. Because at first I didn't hear you. All right. Bet.
>> All right.
>> I don't think he can hear me. Tone. You might have to ask for me.
>> No, I can't hear you now.
>> Okay. So, all right. Jay. So, let's see.
Out west or out south?
>> Oh, out south.
>> There it is.
>> Out south for sure.
>> All right, Zach, you want to jump in?
>> Yeah. We gonna go rap a comment.
>> I can't hear you.
>> He can't hear us.
>> Damn.
>> Hold on. I gotta I gotta jump back in because these some good questions.
>> Okay. I'm I'mma do it. I'mma just do I'm you do them all, Tom.
>> All right. There we go. So, we gonna go this rapper. Common or Chance the Rapper?
>> What's up?
>> Hey man, I gotta go with common though cuz that's my generation. You know what I'm saying? But much love to Chance.
Like that's my guy and he does a lot of great stuff for the city. He's such a great representative, man. a positive representative from the city. So, shout out to you, Chance. It just Listen, man.
You know what I'm saying? I used to love a like I walked to school playing that.
You know what I'm saying? Resurrection, like those are those are my records. You know what I'm saying? That that goes back to childhood. So, yeah, definitely.
>> All right. All right. Now, this is controversial people. R. Kelly or Kanye musically?
>> I'mma say I ain't gonna lie, man. I'mma say Kanye because and I know I'm an R&B dude.
Um, and you know, as it relates to the music, as it relates to the music, I know Kels has like >> really made his mark and created some some memorable music. So, we can't like necessarily discredit that. You know what I'm saying?
>> Um, and especially when it comes to R&B music, memorable, timeless music. Um, but as far as like like Kanye is really a force, man. Like to to pack a a stadium first of all, for somebody to build you a stadium in Istanbul and for you to pack it out a 100 thou what was it 100,000 people or something like that?
>> Yeah, over 100,000. and then like the stage presentation and his impact in culture and his impact in the world of fashion and um and even the offshoot kind of like people that have branched off from him that we have from the Cuis to the Travis Scott to the I mean you name them all like so many people have um derived or come from that creative force if you will. Um, no, I I got to give it to Yay, man. Like, he's uh he's different, you know? He he really is different. And when you just look at simply his impact in the world of art and culture, music, and fashion, and yeah, he he definitely uh takes the crown. [snorts] >> Okay. All right. What about Lil Durk or G Herbo?
>> Tough. It's another tough one, >> man. That's a tough one cuz I like both of them cats, man.
I ain't gonna lie though. I like G Herbo though.
>> Okay.
>> G Herbo's music. Um cuz he cuz he he give you that, you know, he give you that. You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, he he offers a different perspective um lyrically, too. And and he and he he can get real personal with his music, >> you know, in a way that I I um I really respect. Um, and then I' I've checked out a few of his interviews, too. Um, and the way that he speaks about his experiences, he he doesn't glorify what he's experienced. He really takes the time to let people know like, hey, these are things that I've experienced, but I want people to learn from them and to do better and and and seemingly really cares about the community and in the future of, you know, a lot of the kids that come out of the community. And I'm not saying Dirk doesn't feel the same way either. I'm I'm sure, you know, he's just as passionate um about uh staying tapped in with the community and being positive. Um but I I've just seen a lot of stuff that G Herbo has done where I've been like, "Hey man, that's that's really cool what he said. He seems like he's got a really good head on his shoulders." You dig what I'm saying?
>> Yeah, definitely. For sure. Now, this is a tough one. Uh barbecue limbs barbecue or Smokies from the shop. Oh, [laughter] that's a tough one. That's a toughy. But I ain't going to lie, man. That limbs on 75th, man. Ain't nothing like it, man.
>> Ain't nothing like it.
>> Man, I I grew up going to Limbs, man.
Shout out to the Lemons family. Like, man, I um I always make it a point when I go home uh to stop in and and not only eat, but just reconnect with that family because their family and my family, the Haywood family, >> have been friends since my grandparents had like migrated, you know, up up to u from Georgia. So, >> I didn't know them. you know, that they come from that era in that time during the great migration where black families on the south side, you know, really stuck together and really supported one another and and held each other down and supported each other's businesses and um I just so happened to, you know, be in that generation that came afterwards that was blessed to still be able to support their business, you know, years later. So, no, shout out to Limbs. If anybody out there that's listening, if you're not from Chicago and if you never been, man, make sure you take a a trip to Limbs Barbecue on 75th East 75th.
Man, you gonna love it, man. It's it's great, man. Get the small end with the fries separate. Otherwise, your fries just going to be soggy in a pool of sauce. So, get your fries separate. You dig? And get you a great pop and sit right there in the parking lot. Keep your head on the swivel [laughter] while you eating. Keep your head on the swivel. Okay. But while you eating, just just do that and you good. The actual the swivel of the head and checking to see if you in danger, it adds to the flavor of the barbecue cuz your adrenaline is going. Your endorphins, your adrenaline is going. You dig what I'm saying?
>> Oh, man. All right, man. This is >> Hold on. Now, Tone, I can't hear you.
>> You can't hear me now?
>> I can't hear you.
>> Oh, no, man. You got to go back and come in. We got the last part.
>> Let me Oh, wait. Hold on.
>> Can you hear me? I can't hear nobody now.
>> Can you hear me, man?
>> Man, hold on, bro. Do I need to tap back in, man? Okay, let me tap back in now cuz we chilling. We having a conversation. I feel like Oh, wait a minute. Now we back on.
>> You good?
>> Now I can hear you.
>> Okay. Can you hear that?
>> Can you hear me?
>> Can you hear me?
>> I think it's Now I can hear you, Tom.
>> Okay, you can hear me. Can you hear that?
>> Can you hear me?
>> No.
>> Check. Can you hear >> Kiki?
>> Kiki.
>> Check. Check. Hey. No, >> I can't hear Kiki or Zach. When they when they tap out, >> when they tap out, that's when yours goes silent.
>> Okay. All right. So, look.
>> What kind of operation y'all running over here?
>> I don't know, man. I'm kidding.
>> We got Hey, man. Look in trouble. I am kidding. I'm kidding.
We still talking. Go ahead, T.
>> All right. All right, man. Uh, how about it? Now, what will you miss most about working on the shot? What is the thing you gonna miss the most?
>> I'm not going to lie, man. I'm really gonna miss the people. Um, all of those people that I had the honor and privilege of working with on that set was just, man, they were great people, you know, hardworking blue collar Chicagoans.
no nonsense, no excuses, showing up every day ready to go to work with a smile on their face. Um, even in the tough days while we were, you know, shooting both units a day and we were doing double up days or, you know, days where we may have to work on a Saturday in the cold, um, you never got the sense that people didn't want to be there. you actually got a sense more of people like really enjoying the fact that we were all there together and creating and and putting out something beautiful and putting out something that we felt represented our hometown and the city that we love so much in a community that we love so much. You know, even even crew members and people that weren't from the southside in particular and may not have known really nothing about the southside or the culture there or the history or anything. I would notice over time how, you know, they would just ask questions and be like, "Hey, so that man, I never knew that that the Dabo Museum." Because we would always be over there in High Park. So where our base camp would be would be like damn near what 300 feet away from the Dabo Museum.
And I remember one of the guys from Transo from Transportation. I was talking to him and >> he was like, "Man, what's that place over there that everybody's going to that's close to the University of Chicago? I see a lot of cars there where they do, you know, the events and stuff.
I said, "Well, man, that's the Dabo Museum." Dabo Museum. So, what's what's that? I was like, "That's named after Jean Baptiste Dabo, the founder of Chicago, the Haitian black man and founder of the city. Get out of here." I didn't know that. Wow. Okay. Well, hey, we're by the Dabo Museum. Okay. You learn something new every day. Thanks, Jason. Thanks. But it was cool though.
But it was a way for us to like connect with one another. We all learned something from one another. All those people from different backgrounds and to be able to breathe life into those beautiful stories that Lena and the writers had put together. It was man just just one of the best experiences to to feel the love on the street from Chicago from our people. you know, when I would be out, you know, in West Loop or, you know, when I would be out um, you know, in South Loop and then when I'd be on 53rd sometimes, you know, hanging at Virtue or, you know, going to Jo Grill or whatever, like the people would come up to us and be like, "Hey man, y'all doing a really good job."
Like I ain't gonna lie, you know, it's a lot of TV shows when they try to tell the story of Chicago, they want to glorify the violence and, you know, talk about the BS, but and I mean y'all touch on it, but y'all ain't glorifying nothing, man. Y'all showing how it really is here. And that made me feel really really proud like as a as a Chicago. I was like, "All right, cool.
we are doing something good cuz y'all already know if we if we don't feel that it's up to par and it ain't 100 like man if people may not say anything but if they really don't like it they going to let you know they don't like it and you know thankfully with our show people loved it and the community that we were representing loved it so I'm I'm just grateful to all the support for everybody tapping in with that show for all eight seasons I'm grateful to everybody for giving me an opport opportunity um to contribute something to the show cuz I came in at the fourth season. You know, it could have been a thing where people didn't like my character, didn't like my performance, and I could have gotten written off, but you know, people rock with me on that show. So, I just appreciate everybody for their support and for their love and um and and yeah, just just showing love to the Shy.
>> Okay, real quick before we get you out of here, Jay, um >> what was the death that shocked you on the show the most? And then what was your favorite scene?
>> Okay, the death that on the show that shocked me the most actually was Lynn was Alicia.
We didn't know we didn't know that she was going to be killed off. I didn't know at least until we did the table read and then I read it and I was like, wait, what? Like I was confused because usually when a legendary actress or actor or talent comes in like that, you automatically think, oh, they brought this person in to help extend the life of this show, you know, more.
And and maybe that could have been the case. I don't know what Lena's initial intentions were or or the network or whatever, but as an actor, that's what I thought. I was kind of just setting myself up for doing a lot more work with Lynn. But, you know, to Lena's credit, I think that that's what makes the sh so interesting and that's what keeps the audience tapped in. You never know. You know, we're we're in a we're kind of in a time now where people have seen everything and heard everything. So, nothing is new under the sun. and catching people off guard or creating some kind of unpredictable scenario is pretty complicated to do nowadays. But Lena um to her credit as a brilliant writer is able to successfully intertwine and and integrate these characters into these story lines that are already moving kind of strong. Those characters contribute in what they do to keep pushing the story line forward. And then when they ultimately serve their purpose in whichever way Lena feels, she she has no problem with letting go. And and I respect that as a writer because when you're writing all this material and developing these characters and especially when you have a a strong relationship and rapport with the with the actor that's portraying that character like what you know, Lena and Lynn had. Um, you know, you would think automatically that a that a writer would cater specifically to that actor to be like, well, I'm going to keep them in the show and keep it rocking. But in Lena's case, it was like, no, what's going to drive the story forward? you know what what what's going to make the overall story of the Shai make sense to the audience. And she would always kind of um she would always kind of hint into that every table read. She'd be like, "Look guys, you know, let me hear the lines coming off the page. Breathe life into these characters so I can hear it because if something doesn't make sense, I'm going to have to cut it." So even on the table reads, I don't care how long you were there on the show, those table reads, you were always auditioning.
But I like that though. That kept me hungry. Like as an actor to, you know, have that that uncertainty of not knowing if your character was going to get killed off or not. That just made me tap in even more to want to present an even stronger performance.
You know what I'm saying?
>> Wow. Wow. Wait, man. That's very cool.
And see, I know Zack and Kiki don't understand that because me and you actors and they don't really understand what's going on, how our minds really >> baby, you do you do act on Tone and I'mma tell you, man. Hey, I'm proud of you, bro. Like, um, just real quick, just to just to give you your flowers, man. I'm I'm really really proud of of you and your journey. I have seen you work your way up in this business. um from when you were on the radio years ago with Shag. Shout out to Shag. And um and I and I saw you just gradually build relationships and plot your own course and and and create your own lane and your own territory, man. And you're doing it exceptionally well and you're doing it in an authentic way. You haven't compromised who you are. I still recognize my brother. You know what I'm saying? And when we see each other, it's still the same love. It's still the same energy, the real energy. And that's why the Lord continues to bless you, man.
So, I just I'm, you know, I just want to encourage you to continue to just, you know, stay focused the way that you are.
Stay the cool dude that you've always been and and man, just keep shining, bro. Because all all of your people that have been with you since day one, who genuinely love you, man. Like, we see you out here and we proud of you. And I heard I heard Tone Capone day went up.
I'm mad. I missed it. [laughter] I'm mad I missed it. But I heard it went up. I was I was trying to get back there, but um we did the press for the Shai and I had to get back home to my family, man.
But I was so happy to see the city come out for you cuz man, you one of the princes of the city that put on for us, man. And you represent us well. And everywhere you go, whether you in Los Angeles or whether you in France or whether you in anywhere else on the globe, man, you represent us like proudly, Joe. So, I I I commend you and salute you for everything, man, that you doing, >> man. I appreciate >> and Zack, I love y'all, too. I know I can't hear y'all, but man, I appreciate y'all and so much respect and love to you guys. I love the chemistry that you all have together. I love the topics that you all discuss. I think that um all three of you guys have a very intelligent take on current events and it's not a lot of like messy clickbait kind of stuff. I mean, y'all have a good time and and y'all talk like how we talk, but at the same time, um it's respectful in the way that you all approach subjects and and the way that you all um can see the humanity in some of these people aside from their celebrity. And so, you know, you all's take on on different things like that.
And people I just want to let you know that I respect y'all and appreciate y'all and wish y'all nothing but the best moving forward as well.
>> Thank you.
>> Appreciate that. yet cuz I can't hear y'all. But y'all know what it is.
[laughter] >> What is my brother right there, Jason We man? You already know what it is. At Rubies, make sure you check out a new episodes of the final season of the show dropping on Fridays. Jay, it's always love, man.
>> Oh, wait a minute. I got to make one more announcement, too. My I'm about to trip. Hey, y'all be on the lookout. This is what's next coming after the show.
I'm about to start a late night talk show called Leave It to Weaver when my boys from 85 South. It's gonna be crazy.
It's gonna be like the new Arsenio Hall show meets 106 in Park. We gonna have a live chat component to it. It's going to be crazy, man. Live studio guests, live audience, live musical guests, live band. It's going to be ill. So, y'all just be on the lookout. We gonna be launching it soon. And if you in the Atlanta area, come through where you can be a part of live taping. But definitely look out for Leave it to Weaver. It's coming and it's going to be >> Come on. [applause] >> Dope. That's dope.
>> There it is. Congratulations, bro. We gonna definitely check it out. We got We gonna help you promote it. No worries, my brother.
>> Thank you, brother. Thank you.
>> Yeah. Talk to you soon, man.
>> I appreciate y'all. I love you, Tom. I holl at you, boy.
>> All right, y'all. All right. [laughter] I can't get It's so funny.
>> It's so funny because I know my friend is a part of y'all era growing up. So it's like I Hey Chad, what's happening?
Roomies. I don't see these two people get starruck often. I [laughter] do not see it often. And they were locked in like yo.
>> Yes. I could talk to him all day, man.
So many stories, so much wisdom.
People don't know. Just do your research on Jason Weaver. Yeah. But we got to get into this next one. Roomies, let's switch it up a bit. We need to talk about what's happening with our money and our jobs right now. The national unemployment rate is sitting at 4.3%.
But for black workers, that number jumps up to or to 6.6%.
A big reason for widening the gap is, you know, the administration's aggressive cuts to the federal workforce and the systematic roll backs of the DEI policies. Uh so joining us now to discuss this economic policy expert and policy and advocacy consultant. Please welcome to the show Jessica Fulton.
>> Hi y'all.
>> Hi out there.
>> Thank you so much for hanging in with us and stopping through the show tonight.
Um, let's get right to it. With black unemployment sitting at 6.7 6.6% compared to the 4.3% national average, do you feel the current administration's economic policies are directly hurting or helping black workers?
>> Uh, well, let me let me start by saying thank you for having me on. I think these kinds of economic issues are so important for our communities and we don't always get looped into the conversations um in ways that are really productive.
So, this is really important. I think the thing that we know is that most folks just want to like work hard at their jobs and get paid well and be able to make ends meet. Uh but the reality is that the economy doesn't really work for black folks in the same way that it works for everybody else. and it really hasn't in a long time. Uh the problem though is that like it's it's solvable, right? The president, the administration, our members of Congress could be doing something to make sure that black workers weren't unemployed at such high rates and they're choosing not to, right? And so what we need to do is be able to hold them accountable uh to make some different decisions for us.
>> Absolutely.
It still puzzles me that we have more we have better education, better technology, uh, and we make more than we ever have, but we're able to do less with it. So, it's still it's just mindboggling. But with those doors closing and the cost of living skyrocketing, our community is feeling this squeeze on an absolute affordability price crisis. Like, we just don't know what to do. Now, I want you to break this down. What do these federal rollbacks mean for long-term economic stability in our neighborhoods?
>> Yeah. So, I think there are a lot of implications, but I I'll start with a little bit of the causes and then move move into there. So, what we found out yesterday is that inflation rose 4.2% over the past year. So, that's the highest in the past three years. And I'm I'm not going to I promise I won't do like a whole lot of numbers stuff. Um, but it's a problem because we know that black workers are experiencing such high unemployment rates. Last month, there were almost 1.5 million black people who were looking for jobs and weren't able to find them. That is a huge amount of folks. Um, that only includes people that were looking for work and couldn't find jobs. That doesn't include people who like, you know, got tired of looking because they couldn't find something and so they just said, you know, forget it.
like I'mma take a break. It doesn't count people who I don't know if y'all have ever been in this situation, but this is something that I've a situation I've been in where like you can't find a job that's going to pay you what you really need to make or what you're qualified to make. And so you take a part-time job, maybe you work something hourly or you work a job that's going to pay you a little less so you can pay your bills. And black folks are sort of sitting in this um just like you said, this squeeze where on the one hand prices are increasing and on the other hand uh our incomes aren't really keeping up. And eventually what we're going to see is that it's going to get harder and harder to make ends meet unless right unless we have elected officials who are uh taking our needs into consideration and making some making the policy decisions uh to get folks back to work into good jobs, right? Like the kinds of jobs that pay the salaries that folks need to survive.
Zack, Zack, you might need to go out and come back in. We can't hear you.
>> Hold on. Hello. Can you hear me?
>> Okay, there we go. There we go.
>> Hey, my bad. My mic was muted. All right. But, uh, [laughter] I want to talk about those who may have lost jobs. Now, while receiving unemployment benefits, you know, after a sudden layoff, what should their primary focus be? And um do you think it should be option A, treat the job hunt like a full-time job, 9 to5, send out maximum res resumes daily, you know, network aggressively and secure the next paycheck immediately? Or option B, take a strategic mental break and uh use those initial weeks to decompress from the burnout and wait for the right opportunity.
I feel like when I've been laid off before and I did not think that clearly about my different options when I lost my job. Like I was kind of like, well, I need a job so let me just figure out what I need to do.
>> Um I think that that's a decision that people have to make as individuals. But I I feel like the the larger point is that the economy is um is there like this set of rules that decides who gets to work, who gets to earn good money, right? Like that's supposed to work for us. That's supposed to work for American people who want to have jobs. It shouldn't be on us to try to like struggle and figure out how to find something um that'll pay us enough to make ends meet. It's like, well, like, you know, this is the richest country in the world and we know how to do things when we um when we commit to it as a country, >> we should be able to hold our elected officials accountable to get jobs. I'll say one thing on this. Um when I first moved to Washington DC, I was interning for a member of Congress. There was a man who called every single day uh to talk about the fact that he was unemployed. unemployment insurance was running out and we needed to do something about it. Like he called every day. I got to know this man, right? Like we talked regularly.
That's the kind of thing that people need to be doing. I'm not saying that that's like part of your job hunt, but we do need to hold our elected officials accountable because they they do need to be solving these problems.
>> Yeah.
>> And you tell me your thoughts on this and and maybe I could be wrong because I'm sure you have the numbers to to back this up. is that it just seems like to me that it's a a total attack like almost a predatory attack on middle class America because you got the people that have low income. They're going to get help from the government or subsidized in some type of way. Rich people are pretty much can afford anything and it seems like middle class America is just being picked on. You can't you can't figure your way out.
Everything's getting priced out. we don't get help because you make too much for help and you you know what I mean?
So I mean maybe talk to the roomies about that because I'm sure a lot of them in the same place.
>> Yeah. I think what I would what I would the way that I would think about that is like yes this country is doing a lot including the um they called it the big beautiful bill from last year. They gave these really big tax cuts to people that are really wealthy and already doing really well. So, like we do a really good job as a country at making sure that people that are already really well off do even better. Um, I would say that like it's middle class and it's people that aren't making very much money that are really struggling. That bill also cut uh food stamp benefits. It cut Medicaid. Um, there will there are things that are broken like uh unemployment insurance is actually fairly difficult to get right now depending on what state you're in. Um, and so there's just like a whole a whole set of issues uh facing everybody that's not in probably the top 10% that aren't being addressed right now. So like I take your point on the middle class uh sort of being left out. I also think we're leaving poor people out as well.
Like I don't think they're people are not doing well right now just generally.
>> Absolutely.
>> Yep. Well, before we let you go, what type of resources can you provide for the roomies who are trying to navigate AI, job search and everything right now in the market?
Yeah, I think the this is really it it does not feel sufficient but the thing that I have seen people doing is really banding together and trying to work with their friends, work with their neighbors to try to figure out how to um either get work or help them make kind of ends meet or whatever month to month. I will say I am like I kind of am a broken record on this. I don't think that it has to be that it should be on us to solve all these problems for ourselves. I think this is a broader structural issue um that's happening with our economy right now that will not be fixed until they until the government decides to focus on creating jobs and to focus on helping the people that need support right now.
>> So there it is roomies. You got to get active in your local communities and take it up starting with your local government and on up the chain. So, thank you so much for joining us and dropping all the gems um to help people get employed in this in this country.
>> Thank you for having me.
>> Thank you.
>> All right.
All right, y'all. We got to talk the World Cup. Man, it's going down. The 2026 FIFA World Cup is kicking off across North America with a massive star-studded lineup of opening ceremony performers split between United States, Canada, and Mexico. So, we want y'all to jump in the chat and we want to know who has the better performance duo. Is it option A, Future and Katy Perry in U in the USA, or option B, Tyla and Jay Balin in Mexico? Who you got? Now, I want you to drop on your American American flag if you if you going USA or a Mex flag of Mexico. Um, if you going with Tyler and Jay B.
>> Who you got, >> man? Come on, man. We know who you going with, Zach. You gonna definitely go with Future and Katy Perry. But me, too. I mean, Super Future and Katy Perry. Come on, man. Even though Mexico has a great a nice combo, too. But nah, >> I'mma go with B.
>> You just don't like Future, >> huh?
>> You just gonna hate on Future. Go ahead.
>> [laughter] >> I'M NOT HATING ON FUTURE, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'VE seen Future's performance before. We've seen Katy Perry perform on the biggest stage before. Let's give Tyler and Jay Valvin a chance. That's what I said.
>> They don't neither one of them has a fireworks or a stick talk. Neither [laughter] Neither one.
>> Oh man.
>> Now, Tone Tone, I know you locked in.
Are you going to any of the World Cup watch parties? Uh, I I do want to watch USA play tomorrow. I'm not gonna lie. I want to check it out. I've become actually a soccer fan. I saw today I watched Mexico beat uh South Africa.
That was a very It was a very physical game, too, man. So, I like I like I like soccer. I'm definitely gonna check out a couple.
>> Okay.
I ain't mad at you.
>> Hey, man. You know, who knew who knew I was gonna like soccer. Uh, but how about this, man? Uh, this is We got to switch gears a bit, guys. And Roomies, come on with us on this one. We're going to turn now to our final guest who is, you know, we're digging into this case that absolutely really dominated the timeline this week and left the community deeply divided. A Texas jury has just found 19-year-old Carmelo Anthony guilty of murder and sentenced him to 35 years in prison following a fatal stabbing at Frisco High School track meet last year.
Now, with an appeal already filed, serious questions are being raised about the trial's all-white jury, the rejection of self-defense claim, and the racial tension surrounding the case.
Now, joining us now to break down the legalities and the public fallout is legal analyst and host of the court of public opinion, Thelma Anderson. Thelma, welcome to TSR Live. What's happening?
>> Good evening, everyone. How are y'all doing? How you doing?
>> Good.
>> Doing well. So, let's let's jump right into this. Let's start with the verdict.
Carmelo Anthony claimed self-defense in the high school trackme altercation, but the jury handed down a 35 year murder sentence. Do you think this verdict was actually justice or was it just another case of over >> sentencing?
>> It was a legal lynching and over sentencing.
is that with a trial that took place in Colin County, Texas, and ended with an all-white jury after several black potential jurors were struck by the state. Does an all-white jury make it impossible for a young black man to get a fair trial in 2026?
>> It makes it impossible if you don't have the right advocate. if you don't have a right attorney that don't care if it's 12 white jurors or 12 um white and it so it wasn't just white jurors it was some minorities but they wasn't us >> right >> so when you have the right attorney that don't care about what y'all look like they there to make sure that their client's rights and their case is put on at to the best of their ability.
You can see it from a different lens that way. But when you have an attorney like Mike Howard, who I'm familiar with, he's too soft.
>> He's too soft.
And this is also an individual that was brought on by an advocate that disregarded the black lawyers that are just that is even more good and can't go in count into Colin County and kick ass.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> So you saying he had the wrong attorney.
The jury wasn't fair. Um and we see what the result was.
>> You can't go to Colin County. So, there's three counties in where we are that are the triple threat for African-Americans is Colin County, Den County, and Taran County. Do not go into any one of these counties and commit a crime and think that you are not going to be um their next slaughterhouse case. They don't care about you out there.
>> You are just another stat. They care about their stats and they care about how high their sentence can become can be on your case because that ter determines their promotion and that's sick.
>> Damn that's Wow. Now, the defense, they argued that Car Carmelo, who was 5'8", 130 lbs, reacted out of pure uh terror when he was confronted by multiple larger athletes in a split second. In just a quick chaotic situation, where's the line between protecting yourself and committing a crime?
>> There's no line because self-defense is clear. what they argued did not align with his ability to use self-defense.
So, when you're in that situation, I want people to understand because it's a lot of stuff that we didn't get to see because this judge put a gag order.
Customarily, we are able to see what we can predict is going to happen by the motions that are being filed, the the witness list, um the ruling that the judge make on evidence that can or cannot come in. We didn't get to see that. So, it was a lot of stuff that we don't know that happened. And now we can get to see what happened. But what we do know is that this judge ruled that the defense could not use one of their five experts. And I'm almost certain that one of the experts was for self-defense.
>> Wow.
>> Well, as we we talk about this, um, we want to get your thoughts on what Judge Hatchet had to say about the trial. Take a look at this video.
A couple of other points uh just for information about the Camala Anthony case. As I was explaining, the jury has come back with a guilty verdict. Um it was in my opinion having followed the case closely. I know there's a lot of emotion around this case, but the fact is that there was a young man who lost his life, and I did not see that there was a basis for self-defense.
I did not see based on the testimony that his life was in danger and that it justified the fatal stabbing. But let me just say this as a mother um as a parent um that we have got to have these conversations with our children um that we got to have them think clearly. He was not supposed to be in the tent. He was asked to leave the tent. Why not just leave the tent?
Tragedy. Cuz that's what this is. This is a tragedy. I'm talking from a mother's heart right now. Not just a judge. I'm talking from a mother's heart that we have really got to impress upon our children that life is precious.
>> Woo.
>> Um, we'll let them before I ask you that question, your question. What's your thoughts on what the judge said?
>> I think that's negligent for her to say because you were not there to hear that this actually was self-defense.
So, when I'm I'm hearing someone that is of her caliber and is a is a former judge and had to make rulings based off of the testimony and facts and evidence that was admitted, it's very negligent for her to say that and it's a narrative that people are going to attach themselves to. So, if you don't know something, don't say it because people trust what you're saying.
to say that he was asked to leave the tent or he was not supposed to be there.
What we learned from a witness that lied on the stand and gave a different statement. Every witness stated that he was invited into the tent. Carmelo was walking minding his business. He was not trying to go into the memorial tent. He was invited by somebody that was a friend of his.
So when I hear her say that, that's when I know she's not paying attention and she doesn't know exactly what she's saying. She's just saying what makes sense because of her lack of knowledge of what happened. That's why it's negligent for us when we have these platforms when we don't do our full research before we make these um these negligent statements because now you have inated yourself into something and now people can come and fact check you and now you got to come back to it and say oh I was misinformed. No, you for you failed to inform yourself before you made this statement. Yes, this individual someone lost their life.
However, you are telling a child that they should leave when they are is already a threat in front of them. That's like telling Rosa Parks that she should have got up out of her seat.
>> It, you know, I saw a couple things. I went down the rabbit hole for this.
There's been a couple other things and I, you know, usually in court cases there it's kind of standard, right? You know, you have cases that are very similar. In Texas, there's people, young men that have stabbed other young men.
One got 10 years and another one got 10 years of probation and 30 days in jail.
So, there's been there's been some some some things happening in Texas that are similar to this and he got 35 years. So, it doesn't even make sense.
>> And I'm glad you brought that up because that particular case that you're talking about, it happened last year. And the difference between Carmelo and this indivi the individual who only received 10 years for a negligent homicide is that he took that knife that he had. He intended to have that knife. He made up his mind that morning that he was going to take that knife to school because he was tired of being bullied.
Carmelo didn't have the intent and did not go in there thinking that oh I'm about to go in if somebody touch me it's on that student that received that 10 years he had it in his mind that's the reason why they they um convicted him of negligent homicide even though when they approached him he didn't it was not of his doing they approached him so when we are looking at these sentences is is clear from on its face what it looks like based off of race.
>> Wow. Let's get to this. Uh TMA, before we let you go, there's been a ton of talk about the activist Dominique Alexander's recent appearance on the Lauren Larosa show. Now, you actually posted a video appealing directly to Lauren about it and and why did you make that video and what is your biggest concern right now with how the case is even being handled?
So, I've been speaking about speaking out about Mr. Alexander since this case happened because we had a conversation about this particular case. He actually reached out to me to see if I can get it if I had contact with the family. And so, when I saw him on the case and I know his reputation and how big of a case this is, I knew that this family was going to be mismanaged and mishandled.
And this is the same individual. When I asked them verbatim, I said, "Why isn't Lee on this case?" And I'm talking about Lee Merritt because Lee Merritt lives in Colin County. He lives right around the corner from that courthouse.
>> Oh, wow.
>> He said out of his mouth, which I knew was BS, "Oh, he has a bad reputation."
No, you have the bad reputation. You know, if a qualified activist, a real activist comes on and silence the noise and protects this family, that takes you out of the ability to be seen and heard, which is was your objective and your motive. Your motive wasn't to make sure this family got the proper resources.
Because if it was, you would not be on a a a tour right now discrediting the black lawyers that were in our city that was willing and ready with the resources, but you blocked them.
You blocked them. An advocate is supposed to provide and go and have outreach and make sure you have the best individuals around you for what you need. and he blocked them. So when I see that and when I'm continuing to see how he's acting, he's navigating. That's the reason why I called him out last year and that's why I'm continuing to do it now because he's going on this this this tour knowing that he is not associated with the family and that pisses me off because his family deserved better and he knew it.
>> Wow. So you think he's doing it for clout?
>> He do everything for clout.
>> Wow.
>> Tell me what if you can go look in his history and ask him what show us one successful um client that you were an activist for that hasn't lost or hasn't been um harmed.
He can't tell you that because not only is this an on his resume, I have another incident where my friends who were is powerhouse family lawyers and he messed up a case for their client because he wants to go on a media tour into the triple threat counties where you are to be seen and not heard in order for your strategy to work. He doesn't listen to the attorneys when they tell him not to do something.
He goes out and do what he wants to do.
And this one individual, she still doesn't have access to her child three years later because of him.
>> Yikes.
>> Wow.
>> Okay. I know you were in the courtroom, too, so you you've seen this whole thing happen firsthand.
I y'all when I tell you he better be glad he had that that um rule that we couldn't say anything but my face says it all. My face said it all because to see how biased this judge was and to know these prosecutors should not even be prosecutors. You have prosecutors that have a sex assault settlement on their record for this county for seven white women that they sexually harassed and um and retaliated against.
>> Why is they still prosecutors? If they were black, they would be gone. But we don't operate like that in in positions like that. But they do so freely because they have the ability because they buddies are running the DA's office and doing the same thing.
>> Wow.
>> That's why I called it a slaughter house because African-Americans go in there and they get slaughtered and they legally lynched them with the law.
Well, you making it make sense and we we appreciate you giving us that firsthand experience from being in the courtroom and seeing this go down because people we're in Chicago so you know those small counties and things like that. It's when it gets back to us it's been through so many channels. So, we appreciate you and thank you for keep you know telling the truth, speaking the truth and we thank you for joining the show tonight. No, thank you all for giving us this giving up giving me the ability to come on and tell what the reality is because just like this court closed off black media, if you close out black media, guess what? Our stories never get told.
>> That's right.
>> So, I appreciate you all for taking out the time to continue to push this even when they didn't want it to be pushed.
>> Yeah.
>> Thank you so much.
>> Appreciate Wow.
Yeah, >> that's why we that's why we do it, roomies. That's why we have the guests we have because we got to get the insight and get those stories out there.
So, thank you to everybody who has joined the show tonight. We have learned so much. Um, but before we go, we cannot forget what's happening with this. Um, Atlanta media personality Big Tiger has long been one of the city's most respected voices known for keeping his name out of the blogs that has recently changed after his wife Alicia Brown posted a video showing injuries to her face with a caption pointing directly at Big Tiger and his new co-host Francesca Emmer. Of course, Justin Carter has been on the case. Let's take a look at this.
Man, this Alicia Brown case is getting weirder and weirder by the day.
>> Our DMs, they were flooded over the weekend.
>> This is very scary.
>> Big Tiger's wife posted a video showing a big scar over her eyes and also under her eyes is swollen.
>> Alicia Brown is her name, soon to be ex-wife of media personality Big Tiger.
We know him from 106 in Park, of course, and his popular radio show, The Big Tiger Morning Show, out of Atlanta. He's been consistent. He stays out of the headlines for the most part, which is why nobody saw this coming.
[snorts] Alicia Brown with this disturbing video crying with the caption, quote, "Someone asked my husband why my face happened."
>> Justin Carter is going to get to the bottom of it. You know it. So, make sure you check out that full episode on the TSR YouTube channel. Um, I know I'll be watching.
>> Yeah. Uh, you know, when this story, bro, Tig is a friend and a mentor, man.
one of my favorites. Uh just a good a good brother and you know from all the stuff that you see and you you just got to be careful the people you bring in your life. Uh you just do you have to be careful.
>> Yeah, it it bothered me. It it bothered me because I don't you know you don't want to see anything like this especially somebody that you respect.
>> Yeah, it was definitely alarming.
Nothing that we've ever seen before really with Tigga. So, you know, we'll wait till the case unfolds and Justin will keep us updated, Roomie. So, make sure you watch it. But we've been down so many roads tonight. We didn't talked to Michael Jackson, Simba, uh you know, we had the the ladies on. I mean, we just had a good time. Shout out to all of our guests tonight, Jessica, Thelma, everybody that has been here. Um, roomies, you know, we'll be back next week, hopefully back in the studio if the weather acts right in Chicago with more Shade Room headlines, debates, and trending topics.
>> And make sure you like and subscribe to the Shade Rooms YouTube channel so you never miss exclusive Shade Room news and interviews. That's right. Till next week, roomies, remember to represent the culture with excellence. Woo!
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