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Evolution Is Real (But Only a Little Bit, and Very Very Fast) | Dapper Reacts 177
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[music] >> Hello everybody. Welcome to Dapper Reacts. Uh, this is a Dapper React some number. I don't know what the number is because I didn't remember to check and it's okay. That's fine. We don't have to know. You guys know because you can see it and it gets cut off for me though.
But I am here with Kip and Vashanti, my normal co-hosts for this show. Say hello everybody.
>> Hello everybody.
>> Hi >> Kip. Kip seems distracted. Very distracted.
>> I'm very distracted. Sorry.
>> That's all right. Um so I am here. I have some hard Baja Blast today. So that's fun. Haven't had that in a while.
Um, in part because the only way for me to get it is to get it as part of an 18 pack with a bunch of other ones that I don't really care about and it's also fairly expensive because it's an 18 pack. It's still only like a buck for each can. But like I don't want a bunch of Live Wire. I just want the Baja Blast. If I could buy a 12-pack of the Baja Blast, I would do that a lot more.
But I can't.
>> You can't buy a 12-pack of the Baja Blast?
>> Nope. The only the only package of hard Mountain Dew that is sold in my area that I have been able to find is an 18 pack that is a multi like a variety pack that has Livewire, Code Red, just regular old Mountain Dew and Baja Blast.
>> Yeah, I don't know what any of these things are, but it seems weird to me that you can't buy a like a 12-pack of Baja Blast.
>> Well, I could if it were regular Baja Blast and it wasn't alcoholic.
Yeah, I >> really what I should do is just buy a 2 liter of Baja Blast and some vodka.
>> Add your own alcohol, right? Yeah. I mean I mean that's all it is really.
>> Well, it's probably a little bit more too, but >> No, it's it's not quite that.
>> Sure.
So, >> but yeah, whatever. It's fine. You know, I've there there are a couple times I've I've bought um alcoholic root beer, which is really good. And um uh Coca-Cola with um um what's that stuff called?
>> Whiskey.
>> The Tennessee whiskey. What's the Tennessee whiskey? The the one that I'm going to be embarrassed about not remembering the name of now. Jack Daniels. There you go.
>> Are you embarrassed?
extremely embarrassed. But it was just it was like this block, right? I can see the bottle in my head. I know exactly what this is.
>> I can actually buy the the pre-bottle Jack and Coke at the grocery store here.
>> Yeah. I Well, I've I was Well, I was um I don't I I've never I I haven't looked at at the liquor store for a long time.
We can't buy for people who don't know in this country uh we can't buy alcohol at grocery stores or gas stations. Um so but you know recently uh I was across the border in a major metropolitan American city uh and I went with a friend to like this gigantic uh like uh alcohol superstore for lack of a better term. Was it a wine and >> No, I don't even remember what it was called. Uh, but it was it was like it was just there was like a >> I'm not I'm not say it, but there was like a ton of Yeah, it was like a Yeah, it was just tons of stuff. So, uh we found uh we found a really nice uh Shiraz.
>> So, it was uh it was good. But anyways, um yeah, I saw that. That's where I saw the uh Yeah. the the the cans of Jack with Coke and I was like, "Hey, I remember having these."
>> Yeah.
>> So, but yeah, >> back when you could buy American liquor in Canada, which I say stay strong on not buying that. Just keep keep not doing it.
>> I'll still I'll still, you know, I will I I will probably buy it when I'm in the US, >> which I would avoid to the maximum extent possible if I were you. But hey, >> but I'm I'm not like next month. I'm actually coming and we're going to hang out, you and you and me.
>> That's true.
>> So, >> I would still recommend that you not come to the United States, but if you're going to be in the United States, you might you might as well hang out with your the coolest dinosaur that you know.
>> I might as well, right? Where it's like freaking hot. See what I did there?
>> Yeah, you caught it because we haven't hit the uh super chat goal, which by the way, any color super chat will work on that one. So, if it is the light blue one, it's fine. It doesn't matter. As long as it's a super chat, it will count. Um, so if you want Kip to be able to uh curse uh without me getting cross at him, then uh that is that is the way to do that.
Um so we are here for this uh talk here.
This is a sermon I believe given at a was it like pepper road or something like that church something like that. Um but uh basically the deal here is that this guy is arguing in favor of the actual existence of what he's calling Bammans or biblical kinds and we are in the middle of a >> Yes.
>> No, I I I just I want to answer uh Danielle OS's question. So whenever I get a minute to do that, >> you might as well go for it.
>> Okay. Danielle Oas asks, "Who's the lamest dinosaur Kip knows?" Uh, the answer to that is is Dapper Dinosaur.
>> That can't be true.
>> Oh, you're you're it's true. Uh, you're the only dinosaur I know.
>> Maybe personally, but like there's going to be birds that you see every day.
>> Yeah. You know Duck Dino?
>> I don't know any birds. I don't know any birds.
>> I That seems unlikely.
>> Yeah, Duck Dino is not a bird, but he is a dinosaur.
>> He's not a dinosaur. How do you know?
>> Yeah, he's a person. I've met him. Well, I've >> He's a person.
>> You You've met him no more than you've met me.
>> It's true. But you have assured me that you're a dinosaur. He has never provided that assurance.
>> I mean, his name is Dr. Dino.
>> I've Yes, but I've seen him and he is a person and he is not wearing a human suit.
Wait, but have you seen him in person?
Because you haven't seen me in person either. And you've seen me in a human suit.
>> That is true. But I I just assume that.
Yeah. No, I But I mean, you have provided your assurance to me that >> I mean I also have shown you a picture of uh me and Vanti at a museum where I am a dinosaur.
>> I have [clears throat] the photographic proof that you dinosaur. Yes, exactly.
>> So, uh yeah. No, I just I I I I don't think and I mean I've I've heard Doc Dino uh tell me this himself. I've heard him say it on several other live streams before that the name Doc Dino is a play on uh Ken Hovind's >> Dr. >> That's true. I I still don't think that makes him not a dinosaur.
>> That's why That's why he picked the name. If he was a dinosaur, he would have he would have picked that name because he's a dinosaur. But that's not why he picked the name.
>> Maybe. No for $2 says Big Bird might be a better dinosaur to be honest. You know what? Maybe that's that's a possibility.
Big Bird might be better.
>> Um, let's see. We don't know. All right. So, um, this guy whose name I don't remember because I don't care about him. Um, well, okay, that's not entirely fair. I don't care about him.
I don't care about him more than I care about like general people for whom I have mild distaste, which is not to say I don't care at all. Like I hope he doesn't like have some horrible injury or a painful disease or something. Like I hope he has a reasonably happy, healthy, comfortable life, but like I don't particularly care about him.
>> I do.
>> I just I I you know I just if he didn't it wouldn't bother me.
>> I would be a little bit like sad for I don't know like five seconds if I heard about him having a a bad time. just bother me.
>> I mean, shitty things happen to people all the time. What makes him >> and when I hear about it, I generally by default feel bad for a few seconds.
>> Cuz I have this thing called empathy that's apparently a sin.
>> I feel like I I'm full of the empathy of empathy.
>> Um why I don't I do not have enough to expend on every person on this planet. I just don't >> I have enough that when I hear about unfortunate things that happen to strangers, I can spare a few seconds to feel a little bad about it.
>> Okay.
Uh Medigeek Platypus librarian for $5 says, "Slept less than 5 hours. Brain is dead than Kentucky senator supposedly."
Nice. AIG is a bundle of socks used by a teen boy. I am the lizard queen with a Godzilla and we will take a drink. And that was also pretty gross.
slept less than five hours is just my that is that is just a that's just a regular night for me honestly.
>> My um my my last few months I can describe a lot of my nights the way that Michael Scott described one of his which is to say didn't get a lot of sleep but got in a few good hours of anxiety.
>> Godamn right.
So, you know, um, but anyway, this guy is making the argument that, uh, if two things can produce offspring, then they're in the same kind. And he's going through a laundry list of examples. And most recently, he has said that apparently the fact that [clears throat] a llama or llama can't talk and a camel can have a baby if you use, you know, artificial insemination techniques and are careful to monitor it. that that means that they have not actually been separated for 11 to 25 million years. Um uh I would suppose he's going to back that up because what I would say is that you could also make the conclusion that therefore 25 million years is not necessarily long enough to create complete reproductive isolation. And given that we know that we have created hybrid hamster humans, um, you know, it seems seems like this isn't a great argument because yes, every time the creationist bring up interbreeding, I will bring up the homester.
>> Also, I'm I'm not struggling to stay awake, Julian. I'm well into my coffee.
I was distracted by kitties.
>> No.
maybe a few thousand years at the best. Now, if we looked at all the >> he said on the basis of nothing because remember he doesn't have some kind of theory that could allow him to figure out like divergence time between organisms versus how interfertile they should be. He doesn't have that.
>> Just vibes.
>> Yeah, it's just vibes. If we do a third or another episode of this, we might just title it with just vibes.
>> Just vibes. Yeah. Um, Vish, can you show everybody Peach Fuzz? Because I feel like if you didn't see Peach Fuzz yesterday, then you're you're missing out. And I want to make Peach Fuzz new official mascot of my channel.
>> Here's Peach Fuzz with his little >> Aaron tape.
>> Aaron Yeah, his little Aaron tape.
>> Oh, it's detachable.
>> Yeah, it's Phil. You can put the >> That's adorable. That make it all It makes it so much better.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So there's peach fuzz.
So yeah, and I I did link in Kip's chat yesterday if you want to buy >> everybody can get their own peach fuzz >> or if you you know want to buy um an official Creep Tapes shirt, that is a thing that you can do. So yeah.
>> Nice.
Yes, it's >> the chat. There is a very specific uh mask that they use for Peach Fuzz and it's been out of production for several years and I'm going to post a photo of it in the Discord and if you see it, please notify me immediately because I really want to get one for cosplay purposes.
>> Uh Rosha for 199 says, "I hear Dr. Kip is into pegging and wasn't hacked with a question mark." Which so I guess >> No, >> I heard Dr. Kip is into pegging and wasn't hacked.
>> That is wrong.
>> Yeah, that's correct. He was not hacked.
>> No, I was ab it was absolutely not me typing.
>> No one said it was you. They said you weren't hacked.
>> Also, if I remember correctly, it said that you you >> were in favor of it. That is not quite the same thing as being into it, I suppose.
I exactly 100% I I you do whatever you want to do so long as you have the consent to do it. Uh and it's not illegal. Well, would that be uh I don't know. Does that mean you don't if it's not illegal? Does that mean you don't have consent? If it's illegal, do you not have consent or is that like a different thing?
>> Legality does not always do with >> Right. So, uh is it legal? Okay. Uh, do I have consent? Okay, then go ahead. Um, >> I'm actually going to say that that's going to depend on which legality we're talking about here. If you want to fornicate in Saudi Arabia, I'm okay with it. Just don't get caught.
>> Sure. Yes. That I mean I mean there's >> though by saying if it's illegal, he's not okay with you fornicating in Saudi Arabia. He's he is in favor of the uh the anti-fornication laws.
>> I am not.
>> Yeah. He would >> he would give you 40 lashes with a bullhip.
>> God damn it. No.
>> All right. Well, we have to we have to move on because we're we're going to fall behind here.
>> No, we can't. No, because it's not this is this is how this this is how this this nonsense gets gets perpetuated by by by bad faith actors like like you guys.
>> See, he's pointing at the audience cuz that's who's watching.
>> No, I'm not. I'm pointing I'm pointing at at you guys over there. You're dead.
Are you >> You're not pointing at anyone there.
>> I don't [laughter] Now I have to I actually have to open I have to have to open the stream.
>> We're both below you. You can just point down.
>> Both you guys down there. There you go.
Yeah, >> you're bad. You're bad faith actors.
>> Um who, >> you know, are who make my life more complicated than it needs to be.
>> All right. Well, now that we know that Kip is into legal positivism, I'll hit play.
>> But see if this does not ring true. When we go back to Genesis 1 and verse 24, then God said, "Let the earth bring forth a living creature according to its >> species." No, according to >> actually we did check on this last time and we we did check and in fact not only is it species in the Vulgate, it's also species in several uh romance languages in addition. So the uh I'm sorry that >> is that right?
>> Yeah, it is. Well, okay.
Some commenters told me that when they checked their versions of the Bibles in the romance language that is their native language that it said species there too. I did not fact check those people. So I am trusting that my commenters were not lying to me about this. I trust that they're not. Could I be wrong about that? Yes. So if you want to double check and like go through all the translations into like Romanian and French and Italian and Catalan and Roman and Portuguese and Ladino or whatever, feel free. And I realize I probably just named more romance languages than most people can name total.
Yeah. Whenever someone says something about romance languages like, "Oh yeah, name seven."
Because most people have trouble getting past like four or five.
>> Yeah. Uh Nathan, sorry, Nathaniel Gray, who's been a member for 50 months at the touchpot level, says, "We love Dr. Kip.
He's such a good sport." He is a good sport.
>> Thank you.
>> Um mostly because uh there are laws about sports and sportsmanship, and if he doesn't follow them, then that's evil.
>> No, no, not at all. Not at all. It's because I am a It's because I am an affable, good-natured person.
>> Yeah. But if it were if that became illegal, you >> might not care if you live or die, >> right?
Um, Darklaw Dragon.
>> No, go ahead. Sorry.
>> Darklaw for $2 sends a Godzilla, a Mothra, a Kingdor, an AIG, is a bag of dicks, and a drink emoji. And so, drink we shall. Which means I also actually missed one of the drink triggers here.
>> I have nothing. I have nothing to drink.
>> Get a professional.
>> Well, you should give the dog at least a treat each time.
>> Meme where it's if Blink has a million fans and I'm one of them. If they have one fan, I'm that one. If they don't have any fans, it means I'm dead. People have flipped that meme for haters >> quite often.
>> Yeah. So, I actually did a meme of that for Argentina because the entire Latin American like world hates Argentina for very very valid reasons. So, >> did did they million haters then I'm one of them. If Argentina has one hater, I'm that one. And if Argentina has no haters, that means I'm dead.
>> Oh. Wow. Um, did they play the did they play the the the soccer game already?
The the the final >> the last one? No.
>> Yeah.
>> Or the second to last one or whatever >> cuz they're in that. Is Argentina is Argentina playing the game against Spain, I believe. Right. [snorts] >> Battle of the Colonizers.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I got to say it's like it is it is hard to pick a it is hard to pick a choice like pick a team on this Spain versus Argentina >> Meteor.
>> Yeah, Tima, [clears throat] can we just do a doover? Can we can we put back in Norway? Can we just do that? DM Wing for $2 says >> that was fun.
>> That was fun.
>> Uh DMing for $2. And I think you mean is here. So I'm going to say is says uh pegging is Dr. Kip's romance language with a Godzilla and we will drink for that message.
>> It's not. It's absolutely not. It really isn't.
>> You do realize that >> the more you progress, the more that people are going to dig their heels in.
Right.
>> Right. If you were just like, "Yep, sure is." People would just stop caring cuz no one actually cares except that you get embarrassed about it.
>> So like you do this to yourself.
>> I don't Yes. I I I you know what it I I feel like there there are certain people >> Mhm.
>> like Dr. Josh and Vishanti, >> right, >> who have played an active role in this.
That's >> I don't know what you're talking about.
And maybe >> be that as it may, that be that as it may, it is still your reaction that brings people back to this this meme >> to its kind. Cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth according each to its kind. And it was so. Therefore, you will have different varieties of finches, won't you?
>> You know, I I mentioned this um a bunch of times. I don't know if I've ever mentioned it here, but I might have. And what whatever it is, I'm going to do it again.
>> Okay.
>> Um, so the word mean, which means kind, is not an especially commonly used word in the Hebrew Bible, right? Like it's it happens a few times. um within our corpus of uh like um second temple or earlier Hebrew, it doesn't appear a lot.
One of the only places that it appears in the Dead Sea Scrolls is in a manuscript that I worked on specifically for my PhD dissertation. And it is used there to distinguish a particular group of priests from presumably other priests. So I actually in my translation of that particular manuscript translated it as like an order of priests.
So that makes sense >> because it's and I think and I think it is yeah I think I think it's isolating the Pasmanian uh priests from uh the wider body of uh okay of of priests >> okay >> with that honestly >> Nathaniel Gray for $2 says Dr. Kip sorry Dr. Kip stries and effect Davis. There we go. Yep. That little little bit of that.
>> Yeah. Yeah. A little bit.
>> Yep. Hey everybody. Uh, a lot of people keep asking questions that are already answered by my I don't like pegging shirt.
>> Different varieties of of snakes, different varieties of turtles, of bats, of rats, of >> Okay. Okay. Hold on. Turtles is a whole kind for this guy, but rats are a se are a different kind. Even though that's a way bigger, more diverse group in turtles. What?
>> Okay, it really is just vibes, right?
Like if monkey is a kind, I have bad news for you, buddy. Then you're in it cuz you are a monkey.
>> Um, but also, how are rats one kind apart from mice? But then just all of turtles and snakes and bats are one kind.
>> What? I'm taking a drink. This guy has absolutely no clue what he's talking about.
so much of this too, right? Like all of it for him, it's vibes as you pointed out, but it's just like I'm looking at these pictures and these kind of look like this other thing. Therefore, but then to your point when it comes to uh apes and humans, even though there's a a a strong obvious physical resemblance, they're like, "Nah, bro. No, >> cuz it doesn't pass the vibe check.
>> I mean, it passes the vibe check if you actually are a person who grew up in a place where uh non-human primates are very common because like >> in those places non-human primates are often used for are often referred to with words that are also used for like humans, right? Like the Borneian word for orangutan is orangutan, which means man of the forest. It means forest guy basically >> because they're they're treated more like a like in Borneian culture they're treated more like a separate ethnic group than they are like a separate kind of animal. Right? It's recognized that obviously they're not actually humans.
But they're treated both linguistically and to some degree culturally more like just another tribe of people.
Why? Because they are so obviously connected to humans.
>> Uh let's see. Sapphire plushy sorcerer light for $2 says others just help Kip express himself openly. Yeah, that's true.
>> And not that is not true. No, I have no problem. You should just people should just listen to me when I'm uh when I when I'm expressing myself.
>> You express expressel you express yourself most truly through others because of your your hang-ups from your sheltered life >> as an evangelical in the 1960s growing up.
Jesus Christ. What?
>> He was born in the 70s.
>> I was I was born in 1973.
>> That's the 1970s. I was right growing up in the 70s.
>> I I have as much I have as much experience.
>> I have as much experience with the uh with the 1960s as Oh, no. Never mind. All right. Question >> what my shirt is.
>> Live long and suck it.
Also, Pycat has just joined the channel at the tetropod level. Thank you very much. Send some tetropod emojis. Do not send pelagic tunic emojis.
>> That will scare people away.
>> Whatever.
>> Don't do it. No. Anyway, >> it's impressive that that you would suggest that I was that I have any kind of lived experience in the 60s cuz like god damn it. I mean, if that were the case, I look amazing.
>> Honestly, >> it's literally just the Kip is old joke.
That's that's literally all that's happening there, >> right? It's like when I pretend that you were in college in like the 80s. It doesn't make any sense. It's it's just >> whatever.
Uh, Lucina for 499 says, "Kip first part of Leviticus 19:19 says annual hybrids are possible but prohibited by God's law. Is that correct?" And also that potatoes are a sin. I don't feel like it says potatoes are a sin.
>> They didn't have potatoes in ancient Israel. It's a new world plant.
>> Yeah.
Um, so uh but the it says animal animal hybrids are possible but prohibited by God's. Don't let your cattle mate with a different kind.
>> Oh yeah, right.
>> Let's seeu.
So observe my coat.
>> What if my cattle do it on their own and I'm not watching.
>> Well, just like the just like the situation with the goring ox, it's your responsibility to make sure that your your cattle are are not behaving. sh >> untowardly without your direct supervision.
>> So I basically have to keep them in separate stalls unless I'm breeding them.
>> And yes, and you just have to watch them constantly.
>> Can I have like one of the one of my like debt slaves do it instead so I don't have to.
>> Sorry. Uh say that again. I was distracted. [laughter] >> I said could I have one of my debt slaves do it so I don't have to?
>> Yeah, sure. Okay. I was going to say that it's actually good agricultural practice to not just hurl a bunch of m mish mash seeds all over your field.
Like you want to keep carrots in one place and like you know radishes in another. Like you don't want to mix them. That's just good agriculture. So >> yeah, even if you're doing like a home garden, you should still keep your your crops in a certain area for each crop.
>> Yeah. Also, like if [clears throat] you're not letting your behemoth that's just like your beasts mate with a different kind, I don't know that that's talking about like maybe an orac and an ox hybrid versus like >> an orac and a like goat, you know? I don't know if that's what that's talking about because it doesn't say uh let's see the language.
Uh >> Roshna says potatoes are a hybrid between shad. Oh well that's the next word for your field. Um Roshan is saying that potatoes are a hybrid between tomatoes and another plant. Well first of all that would not fall under your beasts of burden or your cattle or whatever we're going to translate behemma as. But also, I would like to see a citation that potatoes are a hybrid between tomatoes and something else cuz I am not.
>> Potatoes are their own their own thing.
>> Yeah, pretty sure that they're they're own. They're related tomatoes.
They're they're relatively close.
>> It just says don't don't let your beasts lie down with another thing.
>> Uh for $2. Medigeky platypus librarian says, "Dapper is tunicquets like Kipstagen."
>> That's not true. No, I don't think that's true.
No, it's not true. Exactly.
>> Uh I have >> Dutch tunic official for $2 says Mesoamerican agriculture involved mixing crops.
>> I So it depends on what you mean. So there were cases where squash, beans, and corn were grown together, but that's not just like chaotic mix mash mismatch of like just whatever seeds.
>> You're back. So, all right, we're going to hit play on this after I update here. Let's go.
of cats, of dogs, of pigs, of monkeys. But a finch will always be a finch. Snake, a snake, a turtle, a turtle, a bat, a bat, a rat, a rat, a cat, a cat, a dog, a dog, a monkey, a monkey, >> a uh >> And it feels like at this point it kind of feels like, you know, that guy who makes the makes the heavy metal songs out of uh out of things that that um televangelists preach and saying, "Oh, yeah. It kind of feels like somebody needs to he needs to get on this.
>> Yes, that actually that would be a good clip from tunas.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> But also u it's true a monkey will always produce a monkey and humans are still monkeys. Yep. And it's also true all the way up the the taxonomy. Mammals will always produce mammals. That's why you're still a mammal even though you evolved from mammals.
>> Mhm.
>> Uh Neonitz for $2 says, "Man discovers law of identity."
>> Law of identity.
>> Yeah. Seriously. [laughter] That's good.
>> You know, also everyone who's a member or a uh everyone who's a channel member, every time you send a super chat, you could be adding one of our kaiju emojis and making us drink. Just saying.
>> Pig a pig and a man will always be a man.
>> Was that casual transphobia? Is that what was happening right there?
>> Apes.
I I actually think I I actually think that that this the picture on the screen of this gentleman is is actually like the local church board treasurer.
>> Oh.
>> And uh there you know and he you know he bought way too many uh hot dogs for the Sunday school picnic and uh and and then they made fun of him for it after that.
So >> could be >> also in >> Matt DB Fisher >> and his name is Jeff >> writes that you can't evolve out of a caid which is >> exactly uh let's see Fitz Brun who's been a member for 11 months and at the emnote level says there are tomatoes where you graft a tomato onto the uh root onto potato root sorry to get both foods but that's not a hybrid. Yeah that can work >> tobacco. Don't forget about tobacco.
>> I will not forget about tobacco.
Good.
>> But you know what?
That's not what they teach you in school.
>> It actually is. It is though. That is what they teach you in school because it's true >> and it's part of evolution that you can't evolve outside of a clay.
>> You're back.
>> I I I agree with DM Wing that that was absolutely transphobia. A man will always be a man. Yeah.
>> So that's true.
>> Yeah. You could say that. will literally since it's in a group of like taxa he's talking about you know homo sapiens will always be a human and will always give birth to human like maybe but yeah I'm pretty sure it was just transphobia given when this is and who we're talking about here which is an evangelical which like transphobia is like breathing to them >> posted a 2025 study on the potato is a hybrid thing quote ancient hybridization underlies tuberization and radiation of the potato lineage Jeang and Yiing. I I'm sorry if I messed up.
>> I'm not very good at >> that.
>> Yeah.
>> Triceratops. There are two C's in tobacco. [laughter] >> They teach you they change into different kinds.
>> They They don't though because kind isn't a thing. And the entire thing that you've been trying to do, buddy, is tell me what a kind is, but all you've been able to do is say that a kind is a group of animals that can interbreed.
But that there are groups of animals that can interbreed is expected by evolution because fundamentally if animals couldn't interbreed with like at least con specifics, how could any of it work?
>> Show us the dog. Show us the puppy. Uh, Rosha for $4.99 said citation cell.comsell full text right with the link and I have opened that in a new tab so that I may may peruse.
>> Show us the doggy. Yes, he just did a jump.
>> He's he's playing a uh a very intense game of catch the red ball. But now he lost it and he's losing his his his little brain. The red ball is important for him because it helps him concentrate on writing his next great book that you're going to publish under your own name.
>> No, he's just stmming.
>> Joshua Geese for $5 says, uh, what is that? Five trans pride flags. Also, Mothro, we will drink for the Mothro because I'm presuming that you are on mobile >> cuz mobile is still really bad at channel emojis, which is extremely annoying.
All right.
>> I'm in a home uh where the host has two cats and one of them is a girl cat and she she's finally accepted that I'm I'm a presence here and she's blessed me by sitting in my lap occasionally, which is very nice. Um she's a little mischievous, but that's okay. Girls can have hobbies. And then the other one is a boy cat who basically only has one brain cell, but he is very cuddly and I adore him. So, he sleeps on my legs.
>> Yeah, >> that's nice.
>> But since cats aren't in the Bible, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to have them based on something.
>> Concerned about my >> I'm concerned about Dagen's mental health. So, I think I better get the red ball.
>> Okay, good luck.
>> Yeah, it's nitrate.
It's never been proven as we will demonstrate this week. Well, what have we learned so far in the lesson?
>> Nothing.
>> That nothing.
>> We've learned that you don't understand evolution at the most basic level.
That's about it.
>> The fixity of animals disproves neodyarwinian evolution.
Animal can change. Imagine, imagine thinking that the fact that you found out that some animals can produce sterile offspring when you breathe them together somehow disproves evolution. As if evolution didn't say that genetic isolation was an ongoing process that was not an abrupt like binary transition.
It >> Why didn't Darwin think of that? Yeah, except that, you know, he does seem to have thought of that.
>> That's the thing.
>> It's really dumb.
Seriously, this is this is like this is at least flat earth level of nonsense where they'll just see like well if the earth is round then how come and then they'll just say something that is absolutely predicted on the globe like then how come uh you know uh we see the sun the stars not moving in the sky in random directions instead they just go in a circle. It's like because the earth is spinning and it's a globe.
That's that's why, right? And the Earth is also moving. Yeah. Sure. Through space, but those are very far away. So, this is a prediction of our model.
>> But did you know that if you >> if you turn around, >> the stars are then spinning in the opposite direction.
>> Oh, I guess that is true.
>> Mhm.
>> She's debating it. She's sitting on the the the PC tower.
>> No, >> she really wants to go. It's warm >> into the other room where where her normal human is. But she's >> is she trapped with you?
>> Like she's thinking >> within their kind micro evolution, not outside their kind macro evolution.
So the next time you're in school, you know what the example your teacher's going to use?
>> Oh my god. If he's about to tell kids to disrupt school, I'm gonna tell you right now, please don't do that. Even if you disagree, >> that's something to discuss with the teacher later. they have to get through a curriculum, right? Like there are certain things that at least if in like you know grade school, right? Like before college that a teacher has to get through and that you have to learn because there are governmentmandated science standards.
>> Please don't disrupt that class.
>> Yeah. No, nobody wants that. But I I do take some solless Dapper in the fact that and you you know I'm 100% right about this.
>> Uhoh. any children that are in this audience >> are not listening to him.
>> That's probably true.
>> And >> I would have been though.
>> That just leaves the adults uh who are, you know, not going to find themselves in school.
>> Yeah, that's fair.
>> Anytime.
>> So, it's it's a it's a hollow protection, but you know, Look, there's different types of peppered moths. What are you going to say? That's micro evolution.
>> And then everyone will agree with you because there was no speciation involved. So yes, it was micro evolution, but it's a demonstration of uh natural selection in act in action, right? That's the whole point of it. No one has ever pointed to the peppered moths example from England to say and therefore universal common ancestry. It is a easy to understand recent historical example of natural selection and it is used to demonstrate the effect efficacy of natural selection in the real world. That's it.
It is not the lynch pin of evolution. It is not presented as an example of macro evolution. It is just a handy and easy to understand example of natural selection. That's all it is.
There's different varieties of dogs.
That's micro evolution. There's different varieties of pinches of finches.
>> As I've said many times, the only difference between micro evolution and macro evolution is time.
>> Mhm. Also, when he said finches, that actually is macro evolution because there are multiple multiple species of finch. So, let's take a drink for him getting all of this, some of this right, but also getting it really wrong that one time because again, this man fundamentally does not understand what micro and macroevolution are because he has been told this by people who lied to him. Cuz like, let's be honest, this guy didn't take like an evolutionary biology course, right? That's not this guy. He is taking all these talking points from people like Ken Ham or um Randy Guza or >> Ken Hovind. Yeah, maybe wrong.
>> So, he is taking this from people who lied to him. I don't think he's lying here because I don't think he knows enough to know how how wrong he is. Um, unlike Georgia Perm like like Vishanti said who was in the video that I premiered on Thursday, right? Who absolutely knows better because she has a degree in this stuff.
>> Yeah.
>> Mhm.
>> My excuse. She's just a lion. He has the excuse that like, well, look, he got this from co-religionists whom he considers to be smarter than him and whom he trusts because of their status as thought leaders within his religious tradition.
>> Evolution, they're not changing into anything else. Now, I will warn you when you use that argument here, >> except that is changing into something else, right? There's no minimum amount of change that we have that like counts, right? If you change from if a population changes from being dogs that are on average 10 kg to a population of dogs that are on average 20 kg, you've changed into a new thing. You used to be 10 kg dogs.
Now you're 20 kg dogs. That's a new thing. And all he's doing is saying, "Well, yeah, but the vibes still check out as dogs, so it doesn't count." But guess what? Do you know what section you put down in your description of an animal for the vibes? There is no section. If you want to draw up a fogyny or a clatogram, you have to do things like put in actual traits that you've measured and that you can actually say for certain are there.
Vibes don't go into it.
>> Does he classify like sea otterters in the same category as weasels?
>> I don't know if he does >> cuz they are mustalids and the only real difference is that they're fluffier and they have flippers on their like back feet.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And I got the web feed.
>> I I don't know if he does.
>> I have a I have a co-host uh for one of my shows who is a a a trench coat full of weasels.
>> Yeah, I've heard about that.
>> And and an astrophysicist >> and not an otter, but also an expert on magnets.
>> Yes.
>> Here's Megan Fox's giant booze is also saying that sea otterters are huge. It's true. Giant river otter are even more huge than that.
>> Yeah. say there is no such thing as micro evolution. It's all the same. You can read that all over the internet.
It's all the same. There's no micro or macro evolution. You have to remind Well, there is, but you have to remember that the distinction is fundamentally arbitrary, right? We picked a definition for macroevolution. Well, not we, a botonist once picked a definition for macroevolution. And part of the problem there was that he was what was called a mutationist, which means he believed in basically something akin to saltation, which is means that he believed that um that the natural selection process could account for variations within species.
But he also thought that the differences between species had to be explained by massive large scale mutations that caused a fundamental change in like the genetic architecture of an organism. And this was before we even really knew what DNA was and how it worked and we hadn't couldn't sequence anything, right? So when he was saying this, it's not like it was a crazy idea because we couldn't really check. And so he came up with this idea of micro evolution, meaning the kind of thing Darwin was talking about, and macroevolution being these abrupt changes that can go between species. But the problem is that he was fundamentally wrong about that being how species come about. But because the words micro and macroevolution for species level change and below species level change had already become common in evolutionary biology, they stuck around. And so at the time that those words were coined, yeah, there was a big difference, right? And that's why they were coined as separate words and why people talked about them as separate processes. But when it turns out that the when it turned out the mutationists were wrong and that there is no macro mutation that's needed to get new species and that new species can just gradually emerge out of a single population that has separate parts be isolated and then they both diverge as a result of genetic drift and selection and separate mutations in each lineage that that can create new species.
Suddenly we realize oh so macro evolution is just micro evolution but long enough to create a separate species right >> that's it. Also, it guru 42 in the chat is saying tomacco worked as a graft because both plants are in the nightshade solenus family and that made really toxic tomatoes. Yeah, that does sound right.
>> Why I think um there were a lot of people in Europe who were very afraid of eating tomatoes at first because they look like deadly nightshade because they're part of the nightshade family.
But could I take those tomatoes, dry them up, and make a pizza sauce flavored cigarette?
>> You could make tomato.
>> Some people are so busy thinking about whether or not they could, they don't stop to think if they should.
>> What? You don't want to inhale your pizza flavor?
I could put some oregano in there, you know, put a little bit of garlic in my into my tomaco cigarette.
>> [laughter] >> them and we can show multiple quotes.
They're the ones that came up with the terminology.
>> Yes. And when it was when we invented it, we didn't have as much information as we do now about the process. And there were some people, again, the mutationists who thought that they were very separate processes. And we've since learned that they were wrong because we did this thing that science does, which is gather data and take the new data into account and adjust our models of how things worked. And that's why you can't really find any mutationists left because the paradigm got updated with the new data about how genetics and speciation works. But we just didn't get rid of the old terms.
And so now we have two terms for basically different scales of this process.
I don't know what to tell you, man. The fact that you don't know enough about the history of science to figure out what's going on here isn't necessarily a problem. But where it becomes a problem is where you say that the people who do know enough about what these terms mean, their history, the history of science, actual evolutionary models, when you complain that they're doing it wrong, the people who know something, that's where we get to a problem because it's very obvious that you don't know any of this. Do you think this guy is going to mention the mutationists and the position that macro mutations needed to be a thing for speciation? I don't think he will.
>> The highest tiered evolutionists are the ones >> Yeah, cuz evolution [laughter] is basically the Catholic Church.
>> I'm a 57th degree evolutionist.
>> Well, I'm the I'm the pope of evolution actually. So h >> the grand potentate grand potatoate.
>> Yes, >> actually.
>> Uh oh, sorry.
>> I'm a nonaffiliated evolutionist.
>> Oh, you don't have like a denomination or something?
>> No.
>> Okay.
>> Just just free. I'm Yeah, I'm I'm a I'm just a free >> I'm a free will evolutionist. Yeah.
Kip is a squirrel's own evolutionist since now I'm bringing in Scientology.
[laughter] >> What about a primitive evolutionist?
>> Oh yeah, that maybe the primitive evolutionists do still accept uh macro mutations as a driver of speciation >> that came up and said, "Oh no, it's just micro evolution, also known as horizontal variation."
>> No, it's not known as that. That is not a term that gets thrown around. you sometimes horizontal gene transfer happens but that's when you get genes from something that's not your ancestor.
Horizontal in evolutionary biology means not from ancestors. Right? So if you have a horizontal gene transfer or you're talking about horizontal variation then you would be talking about like the variation in a at a particular generation or at a particular point in time in a species. Vertical means through time from ancestors to descendants. Right? So in this we consider the vertical axis to be time and we consider the horizontal axis axis sorry to be morph like morphology or genetic diversity or something like that that which we're abstracting into a single dimension in this analogy. That's what's going on there. If that's not what you're talking about then that's not what you should be using horizontal or vertical for >> or genetic plasticity within >> genetic plasticity is not a thing.
Phenotypic plasticity is a thing which is the phenomenon that a single genotype can result in a continuum of phenotypes.
Genotype is what's actually like in your genetic code line by line, chromosome by chromosome. Phenotype is all of the things that result in an actual organism. So like your size, your strength, your speed, your various biochemicals, which proteins get expressed, all that stuff is a phenotype. And different organisms can have the same genotype and different phenotypes. For instance, if you've ever met adult identical twins, in some cases they no longer look identical even though they do have the same genotype because maybe one decided to >> school with identical twins and they weren't carbon copies of each other.
They had the same genetics, but you could tell them apart.
>> Yeah.
>> Just because they shared the same like um fertilized egg or whatever, it doesn't mean that you can't distinguish them at all.
>> Right. like maybe one of them went into like I don't know on the football team and the other one was in like the swim team.
>> They're going to develop different muscles differently and they're going to have differences in their bone shape and or they might have a different diet in which case they're going to get differences in like how they're metabolizing certain foods and things like that. Like lots of things can affect that and that's phenotypic plasticity.
>> Yeah, that's one of those things like you could tell them apart because one had was slightly thinner than the other one. Just slightly. Um but like one had a like more narrow face shape. I mean they >> Yeah.
>> Not the same person.
>> Yeah. Not the same person.
>> The animal kind. So finally the last thing we want to look at are four frequently asked questions.
First of all, how did Noah fit all those animals in the ark? So that >> Well, I mean the obvious answer is that he didn't because it's a literary creation, not a historical event. So like it's like asking how you know the doctor fit all those companions in the TARDIS when it's only the size of a phone booth and like oh it's bigger than it doesn't actually matter what the answer is right cuz he didn't fundamentally there never was a doctor who had a and there never was a TARDIS and there never were companions right but of course he's just going to go with like oh well you know he didn't need to bring two of every species okay I don't really care but let's listen to him anyway >> that's often what skeptics will mock Genesis about amongst other things is >> I mean it is funny the fact that uh the Ark Encounter over in Kentucky has a very small zoo section and they have a zoo staff that number several dozen whereas the Ark itself was originally supposed to have been stuffed with animals and had a zoo staff of eight >> eight >> eight >> yes >> so like >> and also the arc encounter has an HVAC system when the text says there was a window >> right and of course the reason they have that is because um if you actually tried to ventilate the ark, even with just the crowds of people, which is a much smaller amount of like animal biomass than the ark would have actually had um it would become a like a deoxxygenated death trap cuz there's no circulation.
So like the opening of the doors occasionally would not let in enough oxygen or let escape enough carbon dioxide, nor would the one window. So it would become a death trap. And if you had a bunch of herbivores just spewing out methane all the time, it would become even deadlier even faster and you would literally choke to death on cow farts. Not just cows, but like on the farts of various herbivores.
So like on the one hand, this is like my least of my least concern. Like how did Noah fit all the animal? I don't I don't care that much. It doesn't matter much.
But on the other hand, like it is in fact a decisive problem for the ark that the ark simply cannot survive with this many animals.
>> Um, chattering ape in the in the chat says, "FAQ number one, what are you smoking?" FAQ number two, is it tobacco?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, you don't smoke tobacco. You eat tobacco.
Well, >> what if I do smoke it? That's >> worse than chew. I >> I don't know if it can be tobacco if you're smoking it.
Why can't it?
>> Well, I mean, I guess maybe there's a way. Maybe there's a way that that you can. I just I've never seen it done before.
Get back. The the accepted way is to eat it.
There's no way you could fit all those millions of animals in the ark. How did that occur? Well, first of all, let's look at the biblical account >> in Genesis the 6th chapter in verse 14.
Make yourself the biblical account.
>> That's always fun. The biblical account >> the one account.
>> Yeah. Even though the Noah account is itself stitched together.
>> Yes. It's a it's an it's [clears throat] an obvious mashup >> of uh of two accounts. Like an obvious one. It's not even like like it like you like like you don't even have to squint to to see it. It's just it's right there.
Primordial primordial puggles in the chat says there are 10,000y old tree stumps in Scotland and Tasmania continuously producing trees impossible in a global flood of brackish water.
>> Yep.
>> Of gopherwood. You shall make the ark with runes. You shall cover it inside.
>> Yeah, he doesn't know.
>> And out with pitch. This is how you shall make it. The length of the ark, how big? 300 cubits. We don't know for certain how long a cube it was.
>> Just call it a foot and a half, man. Who cares? Just call it a foot and a half.
>> We know the Egyptian cubit was like, it didn't vary that much. It wasn't like, oh well, this cubit was a foot and a half and this one over here was like seven feet. That's not >> Yeah, they're all about a foot and a half or like, you know, about a half a meter.
>> Just Just say that. Half a meter. Foot and a half.
>> Victoria Marcus is asking me what my mug says. Um, yes, >> I do have my yellow mug. It's just packed up in a unknown box in the garage because yeah, I had to rush pack before I evacuated the old place.
>> Usually we use >> Oh, for $5. Dutch tunic official says, "I have to acclimate my plant to brackish water over weeks. How do creationists think all the plants on Earth adjusted so fast with a Godzilla?"
They don't even consider it. Or some of them will say that they think that the flood water was actually fresh water.
and that the the oceans became that salinated in a very short amount of time.
>> They think that the salin that the salination of the uh oh, I just screwed that up. Uh so I'll take a drink for a dire professional, but they think that the salination of the ocean is primarily a post flood phenomenon that occurred over the course of thousands of years.
Now I have not done the math.
>> Hyper evolution and hyper salinization.
Good job. Do they think the same thing about the salination of the Dead Sea?
>> I don't know. I have not heard any of them directly address that.
>> That one went plaid.
>> Yeah. Um maybe uh when God uh destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, he shot a bunch of salt into the Dead Sea as well.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I mean, maybe that's where came from. It was the >> insult. It was the >> It was It was possing the all the all the brimstone and sulfur.
>> Yeah.
>> Falling from the sky, right? That's it.
That's >> maybe the the pillar that Lot's wife became after she turned back fell into the Dead Sea and that's why it's all salty.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, okay.
>> Got it. Yeah. See, because the the Bible doesn't tell us how big the salt pillar was, just that she turned to salt.
>> That's true.
>> It's true.
>> Could have been a giant. I don't know.
Primordial Puggles sends a $100 reds with no message. Thank you so much, Primordial Puggles.
>> Wow, thank you.
>> That's a That is a big deal. And then for $2, uh, Madame Commasar, Madam Kamasar, there we go. Says, "Creationist ad hoc solutions must never be mixed."
>> True. Cuz then you find out how contradictory they are.
>> Um, >> this is my religious exemption from young earth creationism because Judaism teaches against shnas, like mixing fabrics and seeds and animals. So, I choose that this this qualifies.
>> Yes.
Um, also, is the name Madam Commasar a 40k reference or is it a Soviet Union reference? Let me know cuz they both have commas.
>> I feel like if you were able to see the avatar, that would probably give it away.
>> It's It's so tiny. What is it?
>> See if I can click on there.
>> Okay. Dang it.
>> I'll hit play while we we work on that.
18 in. Could have been longer. Some suggest 21. We'll use 18. So, >> sure. 18 seems fine. 21 seems a little bit uh excessive to me, but like whatever.
>> 300 cub. It's 450 ft long or >> Okay. So, he's going with the AIG measurements, which again, fine. I think the AIG arc is a is something that you could say would be described the way that the Bible describes the ark. And yes, Kip, I know that the word ark itself implies that it's a box shape.
I agree with you. I think that's probably what the intent of the author was. But I do think that there is some wiggle room for making it have a keel and like a boat a boat shape at the bottom if you absolutely need it to for your interpretation. And I do think that you're right about this, Kip. I'm just saying I am not going to be that nitpicky and say that that's not okay with the uh for the um the creationist to do. And I am getting stronger uh Soviet Union vibes than I are Imperial than I am Imperial vibes vibes from that uh that Avatar.
>> Madam Kasaur is a Hell Divers 2 reference. Super Earth Will Burn.
>> Oh, see I haven't played. So, okay, here's my history with Hell Divers 2.
When it came out, it was getting really popular. Uh, and at least one of the science friends was playing it. I was like, "All right, I'll give this a go."
So, I bought it on Steam and then I launched it and then it didn't launch.
So, I tried it again and it didn't launch. So, I went on to check to see what the problems was. And after several like trial and error options about like different ways to to boot it up and code you could inject via the startup uh settings in Steam and all that stuff, what it turns out was just, oh, the anti-che is just incompatible with your computer and it will just never open for you until they change that anti-che. And I said, okay, I'll refund. And that has been my experience with Hell Divers was buying it and refunding it on the same day because I couldn't get to play it.
So, as a result, I do not get most of the references. I know about Liberty, um, and I know about the existence of the main enemy factions, >> but that's about it. Um, let's see. Joshua Geese for four for $5 says, "There's also Dare Commasar, a song by Falco with a Godzilla, and I am not aware of that song either."
>> Yeah, you are. You've heard it.
>> Okay. Well, I don't know it by that name. How's that?
>> Absolutely heard it. There's a lot of things I've heard, but I I wouldn't be able to name.
>> In fact, I there's one thing that I know I've heard many times I can't name, which is the uh the door creek sound effect that everyone uses. I don't know what the actual name of that sound is.
>> I also don't know what the name of that the uh the pottery shattering sound that everyone uses is cuz those are classics. I know the name of the Vilhelm scream though.
>> Mhm.
>> One and a half football fields. Its breadth 50 cubits or 70 feet wide and its height 30 cub.
>> That's actually not that impress impressive. 70 feet wide like okay >> cubits are about 45 ft h tall. And notice you shall make it with a lower and a second and a third deck. Now if you do the math on those dimensions, this is how big it is. 1.5 million square feet on the three decks. Except >> we talked about this.
>> Description on how to build this does not tell you how thick the walls were.
>> It does not.
>> Oh, that's right. We did this. We did this on our show with Doc Dino. That's right.
>> Mhm.
>> Uh Costaic for $2 says, "Gopher wood should translate as carbon nano tubes."
Oh, that explains it. That's how it can be so thin and light and everything and floats so well. Yep. Nope. You You got it. Um I mean, can you prove that before their flood before the flood there wasn't a tree whose wood was made of carbon nanot tubes? No, you can't prove it.
>> A whole forest of them.
>> Maybe >> at least one species of tree, right, that you could find abundantly in the area. So, all right, we're going to take a quick break. Um I'm going to refresh my drink here. Everyone can uh get up, grab yourself a snack, you know, use the bathroom, whatever you need to do. And we will be back in just a few minutes.
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It's going to it's going to take him a little bit. Uh, let's see. The screen geek who's been a member for 39 months is at the end level says, "Uh, almost forgot to jump in. What did I miss?
Mothra, Godzilla, uh, Gdora. Did we get billboed yet?" We did not get billowed yet. Um, and that is because currently we actually don't need to be billowed, but I mean, do hit like. Um, but I will take a drink for the uh the super chats with the Kaiju emojis or well, membership milestone chat.
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>> Um, oh, I need to take one extra uh drink for the mothra from abundance of shrugs.
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>> Well, so it's Kip's fault, though. like it's it's not it's actually as I said um Vicious and >> uh Dr. Joshua Bowen's fault as well as probably Rabbi Kana that rebel rapper >> watchers. Yeah.
>> Uh did we get the one from >> Containment?
>> Did we get the one from St. Shalom?
>> I did.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> Um thank you very much. And then I will do uh dinosaur and do for 6 says, "Thought you might be thirsty from that break." I was actually. Um, so I appreciate that. Although I did start to get a tiny bit of brain freeze.
So it was a little like, oh, >> I hate that.
>> Yeah, there's um >> there's a video of uh that I saw once of a tiger licking an ice block it had been given that's full of like fish and also mixed in with like blood or whatever.
So, it's it's gross, but it's sitting there like absolutely obsessively licking this. And then you see it like get up and freeze, and it's pretty obvious that that tiger just got brain freeze. And it like turns it like [ __ ] its head slowly and it's like a [laughter] very, very adorable.
I went and got some crackers and cheese and uh and I've got like World Cup uh edition Ritz crackers that are like uh little >> jerseys as well as um uh soccer balls.
>> That's cute.
>> I do see that.
>> Isn't it?
>> Uh Sapphire Plushy Sorcerer Lights for $2 says, "When do we get the adult only raid stream Godzilla? We'll take a drink for the Godzilla." And uh the answer is um when I finally make that Only Fans account for you >> because I am not going to go around and violate the YouTube terms of service on that one. Um yeah, you know, I got a uh community guideline strike once for not publishing a video.
>> What?
>> Yep. I was I was responding to an anti-masker and I thought that he might delete the video.
>> So I just put the video on my YouTube channel unpublished. It was actually privated if I remember correctly.
>> Oh man.
>> And they were like community guidelines strike. Now did that guy get his video taken down? Like I had my unlisted privated video taken down. No he did not. So that's >> Oh my god.
>> Yep.
Yep.
And in fact, actually, remember that time that I did an interview or a stream with you, Kip, that was supposed to be on my channel, but it ended up being on yours because my channel was unavailable.
>> That's right.
>> That's because after that, >> well, that that got me the warning. But then a subsequent video in which I recommended that people follow the advice of their doctors and get vaccinated.
>> That one got a community guideline strike for promoting antivax material.
>> Wild.
>> Yep. Yep.
So thanks YouTube and a half million square over one and a half million square feet.
That's equivalent to 627 stand.
>> Why does it say Hold on, hold on. Why does he say 1 and a half million square feet and on the graphic it says over 1 and a half million cubic feet?
>> Because he typed the wrong number in the superscript. Yeah, it's a typo cuz above that it talks about feet of space.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, yeah. Okay.
>> So, one of those he's talking about is actually the uh the cubic feet and one of them is the square feet. Although, >> okay.
>> Also, >> I see >> cubic metric units drive me crazy.
>> Yeah, they do. They're >> use use gallons and liters if you want to use like volume units in Imperial or just use cubic meters or liters. Just like like just pick a lane, man. Like I just not it's not even pick a lane. I just hate cubic imperial units. I don't like them. I don't want to hear about cubic miles, cubic yards, cubic feet. I hate it. And it's a not a rational response and I get that. It's a pet peeve of mine. It doesn't make any actual sense, but I can't stand cubic Imperial units. Uh, let's see. For $2, Dark Law Dragon says, "Godzilla, Mothra, Gdora, AIG is a bag of tricks and drink." And so drink we shall.
Okay, here we go.
Or 500 tractor trailers or a line of trucks 117 football fields long. Oh, we're measuring in football fields. That's how we know he's an American.
>> It's such a dead giveaway that someone's an American when they measure things in football fields cuz he does not mean a soccer pitch.
>> Okay, though.
>> It's probably okay though when he's speaking to an audience full of Americans.
>> Yeah. No, I guess it is. But it's just it's one of those weird quirks of like American culture and it's like, well, everyone knows how big a football field is.
I I guess I guess that's true. Do like Italians say like >> unaware >> is is also someone who is blissfully unaware that an American football field is not the same length as a Canadian football field.
>> Oh, he does not care. Even if he were aware, >> he doesn't care. He doesn't even know.
>> Do Do like Italians measure things in like coliseum lengths? Like, wow, that's 40 coliseums long. [laughter] Also, >> remember we said what are the original kinds?
>> Barraminologist >> brammanologist has the same energy as when ancient aliens are like some researchers believe >> ancient astronaut theorists contend, >> right? [laughter] [snorts] When you break the animals down to their original kinds, you wouldn't need 800 varieties of cattle, right? You just need >> what do you mean need?
>> Well, that's by needs he mean that's how many would have been on the ark under the assumption that Genesis is literally true to the maximum extent it can be which is not entirely because uh hey spoiler alert Genesis contradicts itself inside the it's the same book.
I I have two things to say. Um, first of all, when he said break down the animals, I was like picturing Lego and, you know, taking apart taking apart the the the Lego uh tiger and then I guess rebuilding it into like a Lego >> cat. I don't know. Um, >> that's just the tiger again. [laughter] >> Yeah. I I I just noticed on this picture that he has of the ark.
>> There's like a gigantic crane.
>> There sure is.
>> At the one end.
>> So So >> like did they did they build they built the gigantic crane?
>> Oh, that would be the assumption. Yes.
>> To build the gigantic boat. Mhm.
>> So Wow.
>> Yeah.
That's >> Yeah. Also, um, so you can see that it's got these, so this is clearly an AI created picture, right? Because for one thing, the perspective and the scale is all over the place.
>> And for another thing, um, we've got these vertical >> things that it does not it's not clear what those are supposed to be because they stick up above the top deck. And also at least >> Yeah. And then at least one of them actually diverges into a forked version h like twothirds of the way up.
>> True. So yeah, this is just a bunch of AI nonsense. So like >> yeah, I just assumed those were supposed to be like they're building their way up to and that's supposed to be the top of the of the top deck, but you know, um it is it is a bunch of nonsense.
>> Mhm. And also, it's built so that like the keel is underground level, which is not how you build a boat, unless you dug out a pit, which I don't know why you would unless you're just going to flood that pit because you want to launch the boat directly from it where it's built, but that doesn't seem to be the case. So, like it's this just like with always with AI, this is giving you the vague impression of building a boat, but if you know anything about boats or just scale or anything else, you're like, "Oh, this doesn't actually make sense at any point at all." And also it looks like the sun's in two places. It look like it's setting at the left side of the of the uh image, but then like it's up at like probably 20° in the sky over to the right and in some kind of fiery setting because the AI also doesn't know how suns.
Uh Isabella Traster for 499 says, "And then they all got off the ark and everyone is dead in a few generations due to inbreeding."
Wait.
Yep. I mean, like like honestly, how do you fit the animals is my least is the least of my objections to the story.
That's the one where I am just willing to say, "Okay, sure. You got it. You can fit all the animals. I don't care. It's so meaningless to me."
I I Oh, before we continue, I would like Before we continue, I' I'd like to also recognize Air Force Nut who who mentioned who who uh uh was was uh happy at the mention of the CFL >> and says, "I found CFL football more engaging than NFL rules. I followed the ill- fated Baltimore CFL Colts/Stallions before they were kicked out by the Ravens and became the Montreal Alowettes. Uh, I would like to say one of the reasons why CFL football is more engaging than the NFL is because it is a much less structured, more chaotic game, featuring players who are not as skilled and end up making a ton more mistakes than the uh the NFL professionals. So, um it's not always the case that the best athletes put on the best performance. Sometimes sometimes uh chaos is best.
>> Can I say though that I think that uh both a cult and a stallion are cooler as a as a team name and mascot than Aduette.
>> And you can say that, but I I would say you you're you're wrong about that.
>> I mean, unless the mascot for the alouette is not actually the animal.
>> It's not.
>> Oh, okay.
I assume that it was the animal given that that is just French for lark which is you know the bird.
>> It's kind of like I mean it's sort of like an like a really brrawy alowette carrying a football. So but it doesn't it it looks like nothing like an actual owette.
>> Okay.
>> Looks more like a person with a like beak. Hm.
>> Uh maybe seven since they were they were clean animals.
>> So barmanologist >> maybe maybe they were clean animals.
>> Yeah, he was talking about he was talking about cattle >> said that >> cuz the Bible says that seven pairs of the clean animals were brought in. So because of course we have the stitched together story where >> it says it says that but then it also says that that it was just two of every kind. Yeah.
>> Of animal. That's because we have one version of the story where Noah sacrifices after getting off the ark and we need a way to explain away the fact that that didn't cause the extinction of the clean animals.
>> Yes, exactly. Also, also not not seven of every kind of clean animal either.
It's seven pairs.
St. Schlommo for $5 says, "Can someone explain this guy's hair? Is he bald on top?" Yes. Is it white? No, it's bald.
It's Is it like a samurai bushidito paint without a top knot? No, he's just bald. Um, and he seems to dye his hair for some reason, which like if you dye your hair and you also go with like just the bald top, it looks it draws more attention to the bald spot than if you would just let it go gray. But hey, I'm not this guy's stylist. So, I would be shocked if this man had a stylist.
Um, in fact, I I I imagine that if you suggested that he get one, he would respond with a homophobic remark.
Um, he'd probably he'd probably call you a wokester.
>> Uh, or he would use a slur beginning with F.
>> Yes, that more likely. Probably.
>> Yeah.
>> Who's to say?
>> May only be 1,400. Some say as low as 1,200 different animal kinds. You there wouldn't be that many. Here's an example. Well, there's >> So, I want to point out that what he's talking about right now is the actual reason why creationists came up with the idea of kinds, right? It was as an excuse to get the number of animals on the ark down to a small enough number that they could pretend that the ark was plausible.
Because let's remember that >> Oh, sorry.
>> No, you finish and then I'll say my thing. Because let's remember that for a very long time, for decades and well into like the 20 the mid- 20th century, creationists were still on fixity of species and that every single species was a separate creation. That's why in older creationist literature, you hear a whole lot about how the uh giraffe neck couldn't possibly have evolved. And now they don't talk about it as much because they want you to think that the okapi and the giraffe and like Shivathereum and like paleotraus extinct giraffids all came from an arc kind which apparently didn't need all those adaptations because it had a shorter neck.
So, I'm getting the uncomfortable feeling that this guy watched our stream with Doc Dino from two weeks ago and completely missed the point.
>> Well, temporally that would be impossible unless unless this guy has a time machine.
>> He might. You know, you don't know this.
>> I guess I don't know for certain that he does not have a time machine. I do strongly suspect that he doesn't have a time machine though.
>> Thousands of time machine >> of dinosaurs. Maybe not. Here is an infra order called >> the sereratopsia. Now in the sereratopsia here, this was years ago. I think there's more now. There's a >> I'll let it pass. Like I actually like I said to Doc Dino earlier today, my rule of thumb is as long as you pronounce every letter with a like a value that is reasonable for that letter to have, I'm fine with it.
Cuz [clears throat] I just think this is funny. Like we talked about this on Doc Dino stream that some of these um didn't even live anywhere close to the same g uh geological era. But also, there's three different like >> divisions of sereratopsian in here and he's got them all just as if they're in the same little bracket and the sizes aren't correct relative to each other.
>> Oh, not even close. Like Lokeratops would barely even appear if our like triceratops is that size cuz uh I mean Vish, you've seen a triceratops skull. It's bigger than you are.
>> Lokeratops is like the size of Dan.
Actually, it's smaller than Dan. Leptos, not Loki. Sorry. Letoeratops. Sorry.
Smaller than Den.
>> That's the one.
>> Yeah, I believe I believe this is something actually that that Doc Dino talked about specifically on our on our stream. It's almost like you watched it, but that can't be.
>> I actually didn't watch it. I just happen to know enough about dinosaurs.
Uh I should watch it though. It's just that I keep for whenever I should be watching it, I forget.
>> Yeah. And then whenever it I remember it's when I'm not in a position to watch it. So yeah, >> 11 11 different species here in the sereratopsia.
>> Okay. Well, first of all, those are genera, not species. So let's take a drink for him not knowing the difference between a genus and a species, cuz that's fun. Um second, uh I will point out that this group here, um like Leptoeratops and say Ankeratops, which are right across from each other, um those are animals that are about as similar to each other as like a weasel is to a bobcat.
We're not actually talking about terribly similar organisms. And so if he had any sense of consistency, he would have to say that this is more than one kind. At least three kinds, I would argue. maybe four, but he doesn't care because it's just vibes based. There is no sense in which he has some kind of rigor. And that's a problem for actual barinologists. The people who pretend that they're doing real science when they do this barinology stuff to the point that there is a technical term in barinology called the cognitum, which is literally just a fancy neologism from Latin that means vibe check.
We put cows and goats in different kinds here at Answers in Genesis because of the cognitum, which means that they checked the vibes of goats and cows and thought they weren't similar enough to pass the vibe check to be one kind. So, they put them in two kinds. And to be fair to them, they put the sheep in the same kind as the goat. But this man right here, he himself has already screwed that difference up because he put the musk ox in with the cattle when it is in fact a goat.
But it may have only been one original kind that they came from. So maybe on the ark they would have only had to have the one with [laughter] picks one of the most derived of the sereratops.
There's so many more basil ones.
Leptoeratops is far more basil than pachy rhinosaurus gez with its weird boss and all of its extra like epoxipital horns and crap.
H I'm taking another drink for picking the most derived. And I'm pretty sure what he's about to say is cuz it has all these horns and then the other ones lost these horns over time. That must make sense, guys.
Never mind, of course, that it doesn't have horns over its brows like most of the other ones do.
>> Maybe the most genetic material that was like the original.
I love how he just is like, "It's got the fanciest horn." So maybe it had the most genetic material. As if you need extra genes to get more horns. As if that's not just an interplay of actual developmental genes coming on in different patterns. This man has absolutely no clue how any of this works. And it is so obvious. Also, I have to say the the bottom left um Pachyosaurus, that's uh that's a pretty good dinosaur feet. on the right though.
No, those are stupid elephant feet and I hate them. Uh, it guru for $2 says, uh, sereratoxian, a triceratops that really likes weed. I like it.
[laughter] >> Yeah, the sereratopsians had like distinct toes. They didn't have stumpy elephant feet.
>> Sure did not. And also, uh, digits four and five didn't have claws and they didn't really touch the grounds.
So, >> who needs that kind of nuance, though? I do the first thing I always check on sereratopsian or soropod reconstructions is especially the front feet.
>> Feet.
>> Yep. Especially the front ones cuz sometimes the back ones are get a little bit better but you check the front feet and they're almost always terrible >> ones. So if you break them in down to the original kinds say there may only be 40 or 60 different types of dinosaurs. And if you ask the ancient astronaut theorists, they'll sell to you that there was really only one original kind of pyramid.
>> Cool, >> right? Yes.
>> From which they all came. And even though you might say, well, there's so many different looking dinosaurs.
Well, these look different, but they may have come from the same kind.
>> Dude, that's literally just evolution, though. Look, there's so many kinds of mammals like humans and polar bears and whales and bats and penglins and kangaroos and platypus. But maybe they all came from the same kind. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Maybe they did. That's evolution.
>> Isn't he Isn't he kind of like making a point against a lot of stuff that he's just been strenuously arguing for?
>> Yeah. with that statement like that's >> because this would be a whole bunch of macro evolution.
>> A whole bunch of macro evolution. Yep.
[snorts] >> I look across the audience today. I see a lot of people that look very different, but you all came from Adam.
And >> my guess is that he's looking across his audience and it's just a sea of white people and they don't actually look very different. And that's because if you want to find racial segregation in the United States, one of the most segregated places is the interior of a church.
>> Mhm.
>> So, and this guy doesn't exactly have the kind of accent that makes me think that he's in a well integrated church.
So, which I get is a stereotype and I'm stereotyping him. But also, if you're the pastor of a church teaching young earth creationism in the south, there's a that's a cluster of of uh of traits that cluster with other traits.
And one of them is to to put it mildly, not having a whole lot of uh people of color around.
So maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but uh yeah, >> eventually you all came from Noah.
Next, he could have taken juveniles into the ark. He didn't have to to bring a dreadnotus, you know. Uh >> so one thing is that this actually does not work for a lot of animals. A lot of animals actually need the socialization of con specifics as juveniles or they do not actually grow up able to interact in a like healthy way with con specifics or even with other organisms in the environment. Um, I've told the story before, but there are places in Africa where as a result of a large amount of poaching of, especially bull elephants who tend to have the biggest tusks for their age. Um, there aren't a lot of older male elephants that are able to basically keep the young male elephants in line. And as a result, those young male elephants are becoming violent towards both humans and other elephants as well as other wildlife and are causing a problem for that reason.
because it turns out that uh yeah, animals learn how to be members of that species from other animals, especially with large uh relatively intelligent social animals. So, that's not actually going to work work out very well. You'll have a bunch of very ill socially adapted animals. Now, with soropods where it seems like they probably didn't raise the young as a like adults probably didn't raise the young, they probably formed like uh to some degree age segregated herds, like maybe that would be fine, but it's not going to be fine overall for most animals. You can't just take a baby on, especially giving it as little attention as eight people would be giving these thousands of animals and expect that to work out.
>> Babies eat constantly.
>> Yep.
>> So, >> that's the other thing is how are you going to feed that? Because even if the amount of feed is lower, you're going to have to do constant feeding.
Like, have if anyone has ever taken care of a newborn, I sure you're aware of the fact that they do not let you get eight uninterrupted hours of sleep a night.
That is not a thing that they do.
>> This is just my off-hand comment, but I just want to remind the chat that if you mean Christianity and you're using examples from Christianity, just say that. Don't use religion. Don't say religion when you mean Christianity.
Thank you. Continue.
>> A 30foot dinosaur in the R. He could have taken juveniles.
Uh FAQ number two. What do similarities in human and chimpanzee DNA indicate?
This has been asked in the past. This is one of their strong or supposedly strong arguments. So for years and growing up, this is what I heard uh after the human genome project and they compared our DNA. They were like, well, humans are 99% chimp.
No, what is actually being reported, which you might be misinterpreting because it's a technical thing, is that humans and chimps are 98 to 99% similar in alignable coding regions, which means parts of the genome that can be aligned and that code for proteins. That similarity drops into like the mid to high 80% if you do a whole genome comparison depending on your technique.
That's always been the the case. Now, there are some people who would say that we should probably use that 80 to 80 something% number and that it since it's a whole genome similarity that it's more like holistic approach. Whatever.
Sure. Maybe our DNA is 99% similar to chimpanzee and that supposedly proves we evolved from apes.
>> No. Jeez, I'm taking another drink.
The actual flat number doesn't prove anything. What actually me is important is the pattern, right? So it's not that humans are so like if humans are more than 95% similar to an organism, that means that they share a common ancestor.
That's not how it works. It is the pattern that indicates where humans fit in within the family tree of life and how that corresponds to predictions that were made all the way back in the time of Darwin who predicted that humans were in fact a group of African apes because he thought they were more closely related to chimpanzees and gorillas than maybe they were to orangutans that the ancestor of humans would be found in Africa. Which by the way he was stating in contrast to a lot of the conclusions of other people who thought that humans either must have originated in Europe because obviously Europe is the coolest place or that perhaps different groups of humans arose independently in different places. So that like the African people were devel were were descended from an African ape and the European people were descended from a European ape and the East Asian people were descended from an East Asian ape.
>> European apes. [laughter] >> There aren't European apes anymore, Vishanti, but there were many of them in the Maya scene. So, >> and that's a really really really really really long time ago and >> true.
>> Yeah, that's >> but the even sillier one was like what if uh people in South America descended from South American monkeys? It's like no no.
Um but anyway, the prediction from evolution is that there should be a nested hierarchy. So that some apes should be more closely related to humans than either humans or those apes are to other apes. And that because this nested hierarchy is consistent across the tree of life, that indicates common ancestry. So for instance, if we found out that humans were actually more similar to langanger monkeys than they were to chimpanzees, and that chimpanzees were more similar to humans than they were to gorillas, but also not as similar to langanger monkeys as they are to humans, that would break that nested hierarchy, and we could not make a conclusion about that. In fact, it would to some extent say something funky is going on here because we cannot recover a tree from this data. So it actually would be indicative of separate ancestry. That's why we think that viruses have separate ancestry. They don't all come from a single viral ancestor cuz we can't build a consistent tree across all viruses.
And so it's not just that it is a big number. It's a high percentage.
It is the pattern of the percentages across not just apes but across all life. That is the indication. It is also rhetorically effective that it's so close but like it's not the actual scientific argument that well above 97% that's common ancestry.
Well, a few years ago, I have a lot of writing up here, but just to sum this up, uh, the prestigious journal Nature in 2005 had a had an article that said, "No, it's not 99%."
>> This guy, I just realized, not only does his voice sound like an even more nasely annoying Steven Greer from Ancient Aliens, but he also kind of looks like the Dollar General version of BTK.
>> [laughter] >> Jeez.
>> You know, I don't see it.
>> No. I'm going to hit play and I'm I'm just not going to think about BTK.
>> And if you don't know who BTK BTK is, clearly you're not watching enough true crime.
>> Or Yeah. Or don't.
>> Yeah. I I'll give you a hint. The the T stands for torture. So maybe don't you don't need to look into it.
>> Yeah. Don't don't do that.
>> And it's 96%. We're 96% similar to chimps. And then the evolution would evolutionist would say, "See, we're only 4% different than chimps. We all evolve from apes." Well, what's the problem with that? The human genome.
>> Yeah, there's no problem.
>> Our genes, we have about about three billion base pairs. Mhm.
>> So for the math majors, what's 6% um or or 4% of 3 billion? Yeah, 4% of 3 billion. So that's 120 million. There's 120 million base pair differences between us and the chimps.
>> Uh no, that's not how that math works.
So first of all, it's in alignable coding regions. Now about 10% of the uh the human genome and the chimp genome is like reasonably attributable like reason we can reasonably attribute functionality to right about 90ish% is non-functional.
Um so that means that since we're measuring this 98% in alignable coding regions that none of it is in the non-functional area. So what that means is that we're going from three billion down to 300 million, right?
And then from there we're saying that there's a uh let's say we'll call it the 6% difference, right?
So we'll multiply that by 06 and we get 18 million. And then we divide that in half because roughly speaking in the split between genus pan and genus homo half of those differences are going to be on one side and half are going to be on the other side. So we divide that by two and we come out to 9 million.
Which means he's off by two orders of magnitude which is one more than the free one that we give to creationists.
So no that is not what that means. It is not 120 million differences. It is about 9 million differences that have to occur in each lineage.
period. But also as some m some of those differences can be the result of multiple of those differences can be the result of a single mutation. For instance, a deletion or an addition or a duplication can add whole chunks of DNA in between them that will not be easily alignable and that will result in having a difference of multiple base pairs. So it's actually far less than 9 million uh mutations that need to occur in each lineage.
120 million is quite a lot considering the fact that one base pair difference codes for cickle cell anemia that's killing people all over the world.
>> What does that have to do with that treatment for cickle cell anemia? But also that's not relevant. And also also can we talk about the the genome of the tomato really quick?
>> Yeah. That is like three or four times bigger than the human genome.
So onion is more evolved >> and that like what what is he doing here?
>> Yeah, I don't know.
>> All right.
>> No, we're not 96% chimp. We're basically 120 million base pair differences from chimps. So >> So that's actually a non sequator. That is a false argument. Now suppose is not a nonsequator, you absolute dork.
>> Imagine the guy saying that there's too many differences and his evidence is that a single base pair substitution can cause cickle cell anemia and then he's accusing other people of having nonsecular arguments. My guy, my guy, look in the mirror.
>> Seriously, >> what are you doing?
>> It's all projection.
Huh?
Humans evolving from apes only took about 300,000 generations or 6 million years. And then we ask, well, why don't we see evolution occurring today? Well, it takes millions.
>> We do see evolution occurring today.
Yeah.
>> Short amount of times like >> Yep.
>> of years. It takes 300,000 generations from an ape to turn into a human. Well, what if you sped it up? What if you had an animal species that could reproduce in less time, a shorter generation time than humans?
>> Yeah. What if you got off the ark and hyper evolved to get all the species from basil pairs in just, you know, a few hundred years?
What about that? I got to say I called this episode evolution is real open parenthesis but only a little bit and very very fast close parenthesis and I did not realize how how accurate that was going to be to the actual subject matter of today's show >> had one that only took 10 minutes >> and I love the fact that he doesn't think that animals can do this and this is in spite of the fact that human beings have demonstrabably changed the way that certain vegetables look, taste, reproduce, what their colors are. Corn, like wild maze, it looks like a little wheat type of grass.
>> Yeah. I mean, it is. It's just a bit just grass.
>> Corn cobs that you're familiar with. And humans did that in a very short amount of time. So, >> uh, Coasty com for $2 says, "Y'all, that's clearly adaptation, not evolution. shaking my damn head.
[laughter] >> Of course, how silly it was.
>> That's one of my favorite things. That's adaptation. It's like, yeah, that's what that's a aspect of evolution.
>> Days the fruit fly.
Or what if you get into my area and you have one that only takes 20 minutes? The bacterium. In fact, there's some >> Maybe I should talk to him in a language that he understands.
Well, so >> all right. So if you want to talk about animals getting off the ark, you only have a few hundred years to get from these base pairs up to the highly derived animal species that we see today. But you don't even have that long because well, we had those species right when we had the first human civilizations.
So, you have to believe in hyper evolution.
>> Excellent.
>> Um, jeez. Yeah. I I love that he's like positing much much faster rates of evolution in the ark and then he's like, "But how could humans evolve from chimpanzees in only 6 million years?"
And it's like, man, that's way more plausible than having all the sereratopsians evolve in only a few thousand years.
>> Yeah. ium that can multiply. They can turn over every 12 minutes. But let's just go with an interic like the ones we commonly have in our gut every 20 minutes.
>> An entic what does that what does that mean?
>> Whatever >> it reproduces in that period.
>> Heather in the chat says the difference between theocentinte and maze is about five genes.
In only 14 years, it would go through 368,000 generations.
>> Big number therefore God.
>> In only 14 years, that's more than 6 million years of human evolution. In 25 years, it goes six through 657,000 generations. That's equivalent to 13.1 million years of human evolution. In fact, in 1988, a project was started in Michigan, the Linsky project, in which they have been I'm going >> the Linsky long-term exper I >> Come on, Dapper. Take us on home.
>> All right. So, well, first we'll take a drink because I'm pretty sure you predicted that one, right?
>> All right. So, the Winsky long-term ecoli experiment, not only has it shown many persistent beneficial mutations, It has also ultimately caused what is essentially a speciation event because some of those groups of bacteria no longer meet the classical definition for ecoli because one of the diagnostic criteria for determining whether or not the bacteria you're dealing with is ecoli is whether or not it can metabolize citrate in an aerobic environment that is an environment with oxygen. And if the answer is yes, you don't have ecoli. But for the EC coli and the Lensky long-term experiment uh for some of them the answer is in fact yes we can metabolize citrate in an aerobic environment as a result of several mutations none of which actually were helpful on their own but which together open up a new metabolic pathway by which they can in fact metabolize citrate in the presence of oxygen so um yeah I don't know what to tell you over the course of a few decades we have watched consistent fitness gains in these ecoli now if you want to say make the argument Yeah, but the ones in your gut haven't been doing that. Well, they've been living in human guts for a lot longer, and chances are they're actually already at basically the optimum uh phenotype for E.coli living in a human gut. So, any change would be to move them away from fitness. So, there you go. Once you're at a fitness peak, you literally can't have beneficial mutations because all mutations are not beneficial.
>> To mutate. Yeah. Well, you're going to mutate regardless, >> but yeah, none of them are going to persist because they can't be positive mutations basically because you're already at the fitness peak, which means maybe I should describe a fitness landscape. So, this is a conceptual framework that allows you to basically sort of understand how uh evolution works. And so, you have a xy plane, right? That's your horizontal plane. And you can think of that as basically being fitness. Each point on the xy y plane or not fitness, sorry, uh morphology represents a slightly different morphology. So, and then you have a vertical axis that gives you peaks and valleys and whatnot. And that represents fitness, which is basically the same as reproductive output. And so, um, any mutation that pushes your morphology to a higher point means that you are more fit and that you have more children, right? But if you're already sitting at the top of a peak, then that means that you're at the most fit uh morphology, which means any mutation that changes your morphology pushes you down the peak, which means that you basically can't have beneficial mutations because all the mutations are going to do is either keep you where you are because they're neutral, or they're going to push you down, which means that that's going to be selected against. And after having lived in ape guts for millions and millions of years, I'm pretty sure E.coli coli have managed to find a local peak in the fitness landscape of the human gut and they're just going to sit there >> still persisting tells you something.
>> Yeah. So, uh yeah, >> primordial puckles says recent studies show algae going from single cells to multisellular after introducing a parramium predator and then going back to single cellular after the threat was removed within months. Mhm. Also, there's a single cell dog out there.
>> So, >> wow.
>> Yeah. Keep you don't know about the single cell dog.
>> No, I don't.
>> Have you ever heard of uh K9 venerial or was it K9 transmissal veneerial tumors?
>> Nope. So this is a sexually transmitted disease in dogs in which they pass on cancer cells between the dogs and this cancer cell is actually itself a dog cell that became a transmissible cancer after it occurred I believe I want to say it was in a North American dog and so it is in fact a single cell dog that is a parasite of other dogs.
>> Yikes.
>> Yeah, that's >> Yep. Uh Danielle OS says, "Have you considered that there's always room for improvement?" But that's the thing.
There isn't always room for improvement.
It's actually not true in evolutionary biology. Now, the reason that we could see beneficial mutations occurring in the Lensky long-term E.coli experiment is because that environment isn't a human gut. It's an entirely different environment that has different selection pressures, which means that suddenly those bacteria that used to be on the peak of the fitness landscape of the human gut now find themselves in some kind of valley or something in a new situation. And so then they can have beneficial mutations in that environment. Because another thing that creationists never seem to never seem to understand, I can talk is that fitness is always context dependent. Fitness in one environment is usually or gaining fitness in one environment is usually losing fitness for other environments.
>> Thick fur is great in cold environments and actually detrimental in hot environments. Go figure.
>> Like if you swapped the uh a population of Arctic foxes and fenic foxes and put the Arctic foxes in the desert and the fenic foxes in the Arctic, neither group would do well. And yet both groups are very well adapted to their actual habitats because fitness is context dependent. The adaptations that Arctic foxes have are useless in the desert and adaptations or actually even harmful in some cases. And the adaptations of fenic foxes are useless or harmful in the Arctic. That doesn't make either one unevolved nor is it a problem for evolution because evolution carries with as a core part of its what it means that the environment is produces the pressures that cause the selection and so adaptation for an environment is adaptation against other environments.
But that is where we're going to start wrapping things up because we are uh >> pretty much at the end.
>> Why is it that that birds can see in the infrared? Why is it that a mantis shrimp has like ridiculous color perception and like three um sets of uh detecting cells per eyeball when we only have like >> one eyeball and we get binocular vision and they have sexular vision like what's up with that?
>> It's a good question. But uh Kip, what do you got coming up that you want people to know about?
>> Uh nothing. I am uh so I am I am moving over the course of the next two weeks and I need to focus on that. So I won't be doing any shows until August. That means we've been abandoned by Kip yet again.
All right. Well, Vanti, got anything coming up you want people to know about?
I'm gonna be on your channel on Tuesday filling in.
>> Yep. So, I'll I'll just go into what I'm doing then. Uh so, on Tuesday, we've got a special Dapper Reacts. Uh we're going to be taking a look at Dan Bidd talking about the uh Giants of North America and the fact that the Smithsonian is covering up the Giants.
>> Oh my god, I love that topic.
>> Well, then maybe you should be around.
>> We did a whole series deal. Yes, we did.
>> Giants and La Marzulli and all that [ __ ] >> A spoiler alert, Dan Biddle got some of his talking points directly from LA Marzulli. They've met and talked about this topic.
>> Of course they have.
>> Yeah, of course.
>> Uh Rosha for 199 says, "Kip, have fun pegging, whether giving or receiving."
There you go, Kip. Have fun with it.
>> And yeah, just enjoy. Um, >> uh, oh, also the chat is reminding me that mantis shrimp actually don't have good color perception, and that's when I get to quote Zaf Frank because he's like, "Well, maybe that's why they dress like an idiot." [laughter] >> Um, all right. So, that's Tuesday, and that's going to be at 6:00 p.m. Pacific, 9:00 p.m. Eastern. Then on uh Thursday, I have the next episode of the Georgia Purdum series. The first one did really well, so I'm hoping this one also does well. Uh this one is called Georgia Perum hates science and we're going to uh she is going to give away the fact that she actually absolutely despises the very concept of scientific investigation. She is not a fan.
>> Um so then on uh Friday >> over on top hats off I uh we're not doing D and D or well we're not doing Star Trek Adventures because um my producer isn't going to be around and I don't have the energy to produce the show right now. Um cuz yeah, it's it's been a few years of nonsense. Um so instead, what I'm going to do is myself and some friends are going to stream some Dark Tide over on top uh Top Hats Off. So if you like watching us get slaughtered by uh tidal waves of uh Nurgle Zombies and Chaos Spawn and Plague and Poxhounds, then uh come watch us. Uh oh. have a have a great time dying to the oncoming zombie hordes. Um, that'll be at 5:00 p.m. Pacific, uh, 8:00 p.m. Eastern. Then on Saturday, I will be here once again with this guy.
Um, I don't know if we're going to do an episode after that of this guy because like I don't know, he's just doing final questions and whatnot. So, I'm not sure how much more content we can squeeze out of this guy, but um, we'll do at least one more week and it looks like that will be with Vicanti and not with Kip.
So, we're getting uh triple Vicanti in the next week.
>> Yeah. Well, you could also change the topic and you and I could do stuff about horror movies or food or something.
>> Oh, sure.
>> Do the fun stuff without me.
>> The problem is that whenever I do that, it tanks the video in the algorithm.
>> Yeah, it does, doesn't it?
>> Thank you, Madam Claire. You knew exactly where I was going with that.
Mantis shrimp is the ancestor to the modern clown [laughter] in the same sense of fashion in a murderous killer instinct.
>> Grungaldi Gern uh who's been around me for 27 months says, "You going to play Total War 40k?" Uh yes. My plan is definitely to buy that game and to play a bunch of it. Uh I have all three of the Total War Warhammer games. Um I enjoy them. I recognize some of their flaws here and there, but uh yeah, I I'm going to be playing Total War Warhammer 40k. Um, like yeah, uh, I haven't decided which which species I'm going to start with cuz I think our options are going to be uh, Space Marine, Imperial Guard, Orcs, and Eleldar. And of those, I've played a lot of Imperial Guard and Space Marine in other games. And so I might go with Eleldar because you don't get a whole lot of Elar in video games outside of the Dawn of War series so far. So yeah.
Um, all right. That is basically everything I'm going to be going over to watch an episode of Star Trek over on my Discord server because at 400 p.m. today Pacific, 700 p.m. Eastern, I'm going to be over on debate hub debating with Borg Emporia as to whether or not the Machi from Star Trek are the good guys. I am taking the affirmative. They are the good guys.
Although I will not be defending every single action that they take. So, you know, I am not a fan of developing a bioweapon targeted at Kardashians and then being used against Kardashian civilian populations. I'm not a fan of that.
Wait, you didn't know about that?
>> I didn't really watch Deep Space Night Voyagers.
>> Well, it was after the Kardashian civilian populations poisoned their food and water supplies.
>> Okay. Yeah, this is not going in a direction I like. [laughter] >> Dark Deep Space 9 was dark, man. All right, we're going to get out of here and I'll see you over on my Discord server if you have access and you're interested. Uh, other than that, I just want to say as we get out of here, please be safe. Have a wonderful rest of your weekend and ice must be abolished.
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