Daystar: The Great Grift & Prostituting the Gospel

[00:00:09]I don't [music] need a wizard.

[00:00:14]Don't need a wizard [music] of eyes.

[00:00:20]I don't need [music] a genie when I have you, the one true God.

[00:00:30]You [music] found in me a work of art.

[00:00:36]>> Praise God.

[00:00:38]>> I thank the Lord every single day for his one and only son who set me free, who gave me a story. It's called relentless redemption. It's how he forgave me. It's how the blood of Jesus when we ask him to forgive us, it cleanses us from all unrighteousness.

[00:00:56]And he is faithful and just to forgive us and and and to wipe us and to make us clean as snow, wearing the robe of righteousness. And you know what the enemy wants to do? He always is trying to remind you of your past sin. The enemy wants you to think about that and be crippled by the shame that Jesus died to free you from. So anyone who ever comes against you because of your past where it has been forgiven and set free, that is the accuser of the brethren. The accuser of the brethren is not someone bringing accountability to current sin that is unrepentant. That is not the accuser of the brethren. The enemy works through people that try to bring shame on you. Some of you might have uh people like that in your life right now. They might um it it could be family, it could be friends, it could be ministry people and they want to heap shame on you. But when Christ has set you free, you are free indeed. And I glory in that every single day. And you can't take it away from me because I got a revelation. I got that revelation in 1996.

[00:02:07]and no power of the enemy, no demonized man or woman can take away my freedom.

[00:02:17]That's the strength of knowing who your God is. Knowing that you are fallible, chiefest among sinners, as Paul the Apostle said, absolutely.

[00:02:28]Thank you, God, for your grace. I live and walk in it every single day. We cannot even stand without the grace of God. Because guess what? Let's say you're more of a perfect person. I I know these people, you know what I mean?

[00:02:43]They're in every church. They're the deacons. They're they're doing the Bible studies. They're they have a little midweek service at their home and they have children. Uh they've only been married one time. Do you know Do you know what I mean? Like the perfect people. I was always so intimidated by these perfect people, especially after my failings. You know, they've got three kids. One's a teacher, you know, one's a a banker, he's in commerce. The worst kid is a lawyer, and they got the perfect family, you know, and I would look at them like, wow, they have it made.

[00:03:20]And having lived long enough, I saw some things.

[00:03:28]Nobody's perfect. Do you know that their righteousness is as filthy rags before the Lord? You think that you're living so holy and so righteous? See, I don't have that luxury.

[00:03:42]I know my humanity. I know how I have failed. I know what I am capable of.

[00:03:50]And when I found out that the cross was all I had left to take away my shame, I was set free. And I was never the same.

[00:04:00]I was never the same. And no one can take that from me. And anyone who thinks that they have a certain righteousness because, oh, uh, they're just living so well, hey, I applaud you. Live well. you will spare yourself of a few things. But if you turn your living well into casting condemnation on those who have been forgiven and set free by the blood of Jesus. God help you.

[00:04:32]I really mean it. God help you. when we're looking into all of this um this Day Star stuff. Today we're going to look a little bit at TBN.

[00:04:43]We're going to look at the church at large that is so corrupt when we are bringing accountability because God has called called us to that place. It is with fear and trembling.

[00:04:58]Lest I fall, lest I make a mistake.

[00:05:04]I told God, I I'm your vessel. I will speak. I will be your hands and feet.

[00:05:10]But Lord God, help me because if you don't show up, I I am powerless. The only power I have is what God allows me to have. The only voice I have is what God allows me to have. And he has increased my voice in this season.

[00:05:27]I'm humbled by it. I'm in the fear of God. And I I will not be silent. and I won't be a coward. And it's not about money. And it's not about fame or glory.

[00:05:40]It's about doing what God asks us to do.

[00:05:43]It's about obedience.

[00:05:46]Obedience is better than sacrifice.

[00:05:50]You can try to act like you're bringing your sacrifice to the altar. Oh, in my piety, you know, the phariseaical ways of I'm just so perfect and I'm just bringing my alms to you.

[00:06:09]Who God is is a God who sees the heart past your outer facade. And I'm thankful for that because people can judge you by the outside, you know. Oh, Laura Lynn.

[00:06:22]Fake hair, fake nails, fake eyelashes, all so that she can be real for Jesus.

[00:06:30]I pray that my heart is real.

[00:06:33]I pray that God gives me the strength to speak what he asks me to say and to have the kind of courage where angels fear to tread because this church is a mess. And we're going to see it today. So, I opened my father's Bible as I love to do every single day. I won't forget everyone.

[00:06:53]Here is the scripture uh Joshua 24:31 that just jumped out at me. We're going to be talking about legacy today. Good legacy, bad legacy. Do you know what we have? We have a church that has now had a couple of generations of really wicked wickedness.

[00:07:12]It has given birth to these mega leaders who think that they're invincible. these mega leaders who now I I I have to say they um they're they're troublesome.

[00:07:23]They're grifters.

[00:07:25]They do everything they do for money.

[00:07:28]So Joshua 24:31, this this scripture my dad underlined.

[00:07:34]And Israel served, this is the country, this is the nation of Israel, served the Lord all the days of Joshua and all the days of the elders that overlived Joshua and which had known all the works of the Lord that he had done for Israel.

[00:07:54]Israel served the Lord all the days of Joshua.

[00:08:00]Joshua was a righteous leader. Joshua came in under Moses.

[00:08:06]He had a heart after God. But I want to tell you something. If you want to go a little bit farther in Judges, oh, you're going to start running into some of the the kings.

[00:08:20]They didn't serve God.

[00:08:22]They didn't do what was right in the eyes of the Lord and God brought his judgment.

[00:08:29]Judgment falls when people are wicked.

[00:08:33]Wicked. Wicked. Wicked. We're going to be talking about some of Dayar's wicked history financially. And this is part of the reason that Tom, Arnold, and Steve are making such disastrous decisions right now. Do you know why?

[00:08:52]Because it's all about the Benjamins.

[00:08:57]In Canada, we don't have Benjamins. We have other >> red.

[00:09:03]>> Is it red? Our our $100 bill is red.

[00:09:07]>> Oh, 50 is red.

[00:09:09]>> See, we don't even know. Oh, 100's brown. You're right. And it's shiny. We have shiny money. It's all different colors. 20s are are green. 50s are red.

[00:09:20]like to see more of those 50s, I'll tell you.

[00:09:25]But in the United States, we have a big problem. We have that same problem in Canada. We have a bunch of people who have been corrupted sexually, who have been corrupted financially.

[00:09:36]It's uh it's pure evil. Um just in speaking about my book, I just want to thank Janice for writing in. You said, "I just wanted to let you know that I completed reading your book, Relentless Redemption. I laughed and I cried and I was totally blessed by your story. Thank you for your honesty and your abundant use of scripture throughout the book.

[00:09:55]Amen. I I do have some really really funny stories in my book of you know when I began to come out of this deep depression and the failure and the Lord began to show me his kindness. It was hysterical and uh my rise to television was a painful one. Uh, this might this might not surprise you maybe, but I wasn't very good on camera. I was quite a disaster, I have to say. I had a producer and he said, "You have bitten off more than you can chew and you need to go home and read out loud to your children so that you can learn how to inunciate words better." So, I was like devastated. In any case, some really funny things happened that if id have known where God was taking me, it wouldn't have been so devastating. It was only funny in hindsight. Have you ever had that happen? It's It is not funny at the time when you feel like I thought I got a call from God. I thought the Lord said, "I want you to tell people about Jesus on TV." And I am the worst thing I've ever seen on TV. I mean, there's one incident. It's It's bad.

[00:11:01]It is bad. Anyways, it's all in the book. So, I've decided to reread as a devotional focusing on the scriptures and highlighting my favorite parts of the book. Yeah. [gasps] I also listen to your YouTube channel with great interest as I live in Texas and had watched Dayar quite a bit. You have brought to light so many important issues and even though I was totally in agreement with the some of the stands with Joanie and the COVID era, uh these other shenanigans are cray cray as you say. Yes, ma'am. Yes, Janice. Thank you. I love how you read from your father's Bible. Encourage us to highlight our own Bibles. Thank you for bringing us the truth. I love to keep all your letters. You know, Toby puts a three-hole punch in them and we just keep them. And one day when I'm super old, I'll read all of them and go, "This was my life. This is what I lived.

[00:11:51]This is what happened." I don't know.

[00:11:53]All right. Um Huh. So, we'll read. You know, a little while ago, Rachel, she did a clip at home because Josh was not the nicest guy. You know, that the fake Josh that you see, the fake star that's going on right now. Um, so she took a clip of how she kind of woke him up and I guess he was super grumpy and very he was very annoyed. And uh this lady says, "Again, tonight while watching your show, I was reminded of a video clip that Rachel took of Joshua and then showed us on the Ministry now Day Star TV audience show. She she saw it a couple years ago. Rachel took a video of Joshua who was sleeping in bed.

[00:12:32]She taped Joshua's rude, mean reaction when she called him to get up.

[00:12:35][laughter] Then she brought it to the studio for all of us to see. Ah, good.

[00:12:41]Good for you. I think that's uh fantastic. Showing a little bit of truth there. Joshua was not happy that she aired the video. He said mumbled something like, "Why did you do that?"

[00:12:52]He looked cloudy and upset. Right on set, I guess. Obviously, Rachel must have been so upset with Joshua's attitude around their home that she got fed up. Maybe, maybe, maybe that's it, Joan. Uh, she got fed up and she decided to show us viewers what Joshua was really like.

[00:13:13]We'd like more of that, Rachel. Some honesty, cuz I think it's going to cost you if you're not. Laurelyn, keep up the good work. Being faithful, finding the truth. We'll keep that one, too. All right. Okay. So, I want to uh I do have a another one, but I before we get to that, I would like to go into a little bit of the background. I want to show you um my dear sister. I love this lady. She is the Juice Radio and talk show and uh she's my African-American sister. Many of you know that I am Africanamean. I was born in Uganda and I consider myself black. Different parts of me are just, you know, I've got my my outer frame, but in my heart I am African. And uh I was raised for eight years there and saw a lot. And those people taught me how to worship. They taught me that money was not important. It was actually they needed to survive. They needed God.

[00:14:17]It was God that was important. Now, this is uh the Juice Radio and talk show.

[00:14:23]What she's doing is she is critiquing and going over and looking at the story of Paul Crouch Jr. And it's very similar to Jonathan Lamb. people have drawn some of these conclusions, but I appreciated how she sort of navigated the whole thing. So, I I would like to show this to you from her show as we watch Paul Crouch's story. And as you know, big fallout, big problems in the family, stealing inheritance, essay of grandchildren, very similar. Take a look.

[00:15:00]>> I did resign and my parents accepted the resignation.

[00:15:05]My brother had moved in at a very strategic time and you know was trying to take over TBN, take over the assets.

[00:15:15]I mean it it's as clear as as you know >> to me >> very obvious. If you knew Matt's personality, you know, he and I are just different breed of cat. Totally opposite. I met Matt [clears throat] one time when I was a kid and the vibe I got from him was he is really cocky without [laughter] >> he's like a cocky guy.

[00:15:40]>> Well, I've heard that. I've heard nar.

[00:15:43][laughter and gasps] >> All right. So, I'm going to be uh giving some commentary on the similarities.

[00:15:47]Now, he's talking about Matt and he's speaking that Matt uh tried to come in and and Paul Crouch Jr.'s statement is that Matt wanted to take control. Now, we do know we've been hearing a lot of people saying that uh Rachel wants to come in and take control of Dayar. Hey, Simply Tara. Good morning. Thank you for being here, beautiful.

[00:16:06]>> Yeah, Rachel does.

[00:16:06]>> So, the similarities and as you guys listen to Paul Crouch Jr.'s story, I want you to think about what's happening with Dayar and let me know if your thoughts also seem to be that of this sounds so much like Dayar, especially with him saying that, you know, they're totally different. His uh personality is totally different from Matt's personality. Paul Crouch Jr. is more reserved, more more subtle, you know, you know, more loving, more caring, more approachable. And and his conversation as far as his brother Matt is kind of the opposite. We see that same similarity with Rachel and Jonathan. We see Jonathan as the one that's more reserved, more more approachable, more loving, more caring, and Rachel as more of the nonapproachable, the total opposite. So, let's continue.

[00:16:53]>> And let me just say something before we go on. She is bringing some similarities in sort of the dynamics that has taken place here. Let's also bring together, these are all kids raised in extravagant wealth with fakers as parents, fakers in the family. Some kids survive this for some reason. Some kids don't do well when you've got all that stuff. I mean, you would think that Rachel maybe would, you know, be able to rise and be an incredible person. No, she's a liar and a deceiver raised in the same family. Yet Jonathan, he has a heart of purity. And we're going to see why. We're going to play another clip later that is going to show the purity that Jonathan had financially somehow out of this muck with Marcus and Joanie making different mistakes, some similar, but this family that has struggled.

[00:17:54]Same as the TBN Crouch family.

[00:17:58]There's once in a while someone who rises up and Paul is here and and junior and he is willing to tell the truth on all of it. But both of them raised in mega ministry grifting families that get so wealthy they don't know what to do with it and it actually ends up destroying them.

[00:18:22]Money is dangerous. The love of money is very dangerous.

[00:18:27]Most of us will not ever have the temptation that comes with big money.

[00:18:31]It's it's probably not going to happen to most of us.

[00:18:35]And maybe that's a very good thing because the love of money, it blinds you. That's what's happening with Tom Arnold and Steve today. They can't see. I mean, we're waiting for the announcement that they're going to make that Rachel [laughter] [gasps] is going to be the president.

[00:18:56]Rachel. Rachel, the one controlling all the bots and the information on X. Yes.

[00:19:01]Follow them.

[00:19:03]Follow them. Follow the bots.

[00:19:06]You'll see them.

[00:19:08]There's one. It's called for Joanie. Oh, obviously getting fed every line from Rachel.

[00:19:18]There's wicked, wicked accounts that are attacking Susie Lamb.

[00:19:26]Say what you want about Susie. You're upset because she has blown the whistle.

[00:19:30]She is unwilling to be silent. Jonathan and her are unwilling to play the game of these these big networks.

[00:19:38]They're not evil. They're actually righteous.

[00:19:42]And when you make little demon horns like we've been showing, putting it on me, putting it on them, turning Jonathan and Susie into the evil ones. How wicked are all of you?

[00:19:57]How wicked? God is watching. So, this is all very similar. So, let's get back to my sister.

[00:20:04]>> And this gentleman here, he's so funny.

[00:20:06]He's like, he feels as though he's like, "Oh, I don't know about this about Matt, you know." But let's take a listen to what Paul says about that. Narcissist I've heard, you know, whatever. Now, I love my brother. I have to love my brother. I am not my brother's keeper.

[00:20:22]>> But and I think he did some things that he is >> going to regret. And it's it not all of it's come out yet. I can't I'm not going to share everything here. I can share >> pieces. And so stay tuned because you're going to get some interesting tidbits here. But it >> it's all coming out. There's bits and pieces I haven't been able to share that I there there's some some things and it's all coming out. There's things Jonathan and Susie just can't say publicly.

[00:20:56]It's not time, but it's all coming out.

[00:21:03]Every lie that has been spoken in the the secret place, every action, every wickedness will be shouted from the rooftops. You can bet.

[00:21:17]Absolutely. All right, let's keep going.

[00:21:20]>> Very trying time. And you know, I've seen that with the the Schulers. They had a family split. Um >> the Hill Song just watched. We just watched uh Hill Song is dealing with some of the same things that TBNN is dealing with. What's interesting, I don't want to say birds of a feather, you know, but they were connected very tight and they had two very large empires. And here's the lesson for all of us and I think this is what >> is going to come out when my book comes out or my daughter's book or a documentary. We could do a documentary on tvN that makes Hillsong look like Disneyland.

[00:22:01]>> Wow.

[00:22:02]>> If to be honest with you.

[00:22:03]>> Wow.

[00:22:04]>> But there is absolutely a thing that when empires and I don't think it's just Christian, but when Christian ministries or empires or companies get big.

[00:22:15]>> All right, take take a listen to this because I love this point in the conversation. Take a listen to this because this was important here. Let me rewind it a little bit. Okay, thank you.

[00:22:26]Come on in. But when Christian ministries or empires or companies get big, you become a big target.

[00:22:32]>> Trust me. Uh you know the bigger they are, the harder they fall, they say. But >> um there is an absolute thing and I saw it with my own eyes of protecting the empire over employees. Wow.

[00:22:49]>> Or my own children.

[00:22:51]>> Now >> there it is right there. There it is.

[00:22:57]Protecting the empire over the children, over the family.

[00:23:05]Jonathan and Susie have broken the curse. They've broken it. First generation to say this far and no farther. You you bunch of lying scallywags.

[00:23:17]You don't put family first. You don't protect people. Oh, if if some chiropractor uh does something, you know, we pay we pay them off to leave.

[00:23:26]All right? If there's an affair in in the marriage, we pay the other person off to to go away. We cover cover Joanie covered numerous instances.

[00:23:43]Joanie would not honor Rachel when Rachel herself had experienced an essay.

[00:23:50]This is wicked. No one deserves that. No one should have that happen. And when there is no protection, you do not learn how to deal with what has happened. And we're going to see today, it's not just a star. It's not just TBN. It is throughout the Christian kingdom, the cover up culture. It's here in Canada.

[00:24:14]It's here.

[00:24:17]wicked men doing wicked things and nobody calls it out and you get mad at the people that have the courage to do something about it. Well, guess what?

[00:24:28]We don't give a rats. We don't care how mad you are at us. We're we're not about you. We're not about your kingdoms.

[00:24:36]We're about the business of the Lord Jesus. And the same way that Jesus was able to flip the tables, our heavenly father through the power of the Holy Spirit has done it again. He's flipped the tables. We get to speak.

[00:24:52]We are strong. We're powerful. We are not concerned about what you think. We don't play by your evil pharisaical rules. We now stand in the mighty powerful name of Jesus.

[00:25:08]And people like myself and my sister here, people like Pastor Ray, Ohio for Freedom, Everett, Vanessa Johnson, my my dear uh friend Lynn Dearice, every last one of them, all my buddies, Pastor Pastor T, and of course, uh, uh, Precious, um, um, I'm going to get her name in a second.

[00:25:38]These these people I'm going to get her name. These people don't care what you think. We don't care what kind of pathetic memes you put out about us with the devil wrapped his arms around us as if as if that matters.

[00:25:58]You're sick accusers of the brethren.

[00:26:02]We are bloodbought.

[00:26:05]We are daughters of the King of Kings.

[00:26:08]We are sons and daughters of the Lord.

[00:26:12]And and we do not answer to you. We answer to God. Accountability. Yes. If you'd like to say, "Oh, we're doing something wrong. Sure, I guess. Throw your mud. I got people throwing mud." Go ahead. I'm ready with my answer. I stand under the blood of Jesus because the man on the cross said that I could that I could be covered by him.

[00:26:37]When you repent, you get forgiveness. Anyone who dares to bring up your old sin in a way of condemnation, sins you have declared and put forward, confessed.

[00:26:55]That's wicked.

[00:26:58]That's more wicked than wicked could ever be.

[00:27:02]That's wicked.

[00:27:04]Paul Crouch in this moment in his life, he has also declared he's not playing by the games.

[00:27:15]And we're we're a new breed. We don't play by all the old rules of cover up.

[00:27:21]You see, back in the day, very recently, I spoke to somebody very elderly, just preach the gospel. Don't worry about all that other stuff. Just just preach the gospel.

[00:27:36]There's something about the old guard that wanted to protect, I believe, their own positions.

[00:27:46]And the Lord's fed up. smells to high heavens.

[00:27:52]And he called a whole bunch of holy ghost marauders.

[00:27:58]And he said, "I'm cutting you loose. You go for it. Speak my words.

[00:28:05]Do my will."

[00:28:07]And he told us he was with us. So, we're not going to shut up and we're going to expose you cuz there's so much wickedness. You're a stench in the nostrils of God.

[00:28:19]Let's go.

[00:28:20]>> What happened? My daughter, if you go to the lawsuit, this is all public information.

[00:28:24]>> Absolutely.

[00:28:25]>> She was abused and possibly raped by a TBN engineer.

[00:28:30]>> She was 13 years old. He was 36 >> in Atlanta. And Steve Smith is the guy's name. I don't give a hoot. Who knows?

[00:28:40]>> Remember, we knew. Okay.

[00:28:41]>> I want people to know. I hope he's in hiding, >> right? Honestly, if I ran across the guy, it it could get it would be worse than the Oscar celebration. Trust me.

[00:28:50]So, >> now some of you may say, well, you know, why is Paul Crouch saying all this now?

[00:28:55]Why didn't he do anything then? Well, this when this story came out regarding his daughter uh being inappropriately uh touched um by this individual, Paul Crouch Jr. was not informed at the time.

[00:29:08]The information was withheld from him.

[00:29:10]So, as a dad, he did not know when everybody else knew. he found out later on. Okay, here we go.

[00:29:17]>> Little by the way, [laughter] shout out to you, man. We know. We know why.

[00:29:22]>> Um, so that is the sad part that TBN absolutely >> was trying to save the embarrassment of a lawsuit, save the embarrassment of the PR hit. Listen, when you're running a $200 million a year ministry, you get bad PR, your donations dip.

[00:29:43]$200 million a year.

[00:29:48]>> Did y'all hear that?

[00:29:50]>> Yeah, I did.

[00:29:51]>> $200 million.

[00:29:56]>> Big money.

[00:29:57]>> A year.

[00:29:58]>> Big money. Reigning money.

[00:29:59]>> My god. Today. Make sure y'all pick a thumbs up as y'all come in. Okay, here we go.

[00:30:03]>> I'm going to do thumbs up.

[00:30:04]>> Like a church, >> dude. The pastor of a church gets caught with a secretary. You don't think the donations are going to go down? Right.

[00:30:12]>> Exactly. And that's the issue with TBN is they were trying to save that there had just before that about a year before my father had been accused of uh sexually harassing an African-American employee.

[00:30:30]>> He sued us that my dad abs >> Did you hear what he said? He said I heard >> he sued us. He >> So the allegation is that Paul Crouch Senior >> was having inappropriate alleged alleged inappropriate behavior with an Africanamean male.

[00:30:55]>> Okay, for those of you who did not know, this is what he's saying. Let me go ahead and rewind this. He says he sued us. Here we go. uh sexually harassing an African-American employee. He sued us that my dad absolutely did pay this guy $250,000 to kind of stay quiet.

[00:31:21]>> You'd think, you know, we would have learned from Jim Baker, you know, with Jessica >> and and here we go. And here again, it's like this this train that keeps coming, keeps going. He just said, "You think we would have learned with Jim and Tammy Baker?" Hey, Rosalyn. No, >> good morning. So, it's like there's this train and it keeps going. You've got TB, you got Jim and Tammy Baker with the situation that they have. Now, you've got TBN comes on as another part. Now, you've got Dayar coming on as another part. And it's like the cycle keeps going and going and going >> and going except a couple of people like Paul Crouch Jr.

[00:32:07]and a young man named Jonathan Lamb and Susie Lamb who said this far and no further.

[00:32:17]A wicked generation put on notice. We're not playing your games. We don't need your money. It's not about the money. You all don't get it.

[00:32:30]For Tom, Arnold, and Steve, it's about the money. I don't know if you have handy that thumbnail there, JT, but for for the ones that are making big decisions that are about to I think name Rachel as the president, it's it's all of this.

[00:32:54]It's the money. And we're going to hear a little bit more about that in just a bit. But I want to go back to the allegations we just heard about Paul Crouch Senior. Is it men?

[00:33:10]I came across something. I This is not really a kids show today.

[00:33:17]Um yeah, is it ever. We're pretty We're pretty intense. It's It's It's just that this guy's about to say something.

[00:33:28]Uh we we got a a big problem. We got a we got a gay problem.

[00:33:35]Yeah. You see, the Bible says certain things about about life. And we got some folks and they're high up and they've been hidden. They've been covered.

[00:33:50]And yet it's it's in plain sight. It's hiding in plain sight.

[00:33:57]God's done.

[00:34:00]Take a look at this uh gentleman. I believe um I don't I think hopefully we have his name there, but um he's talking about preachers abusing young guys. Take a look.

[00:34:12]>> He told me to be careful. I said, "Why?"

[00:34:16]He said, "You're going to get offers."

[00:34:18]And I said, "Oh, like offers to get interviewed." He said, "No, you're going to get offers from famous preachers."

[00:34:25]I got these offers in which they offered me money to sleep with them >> and at first I think I was about a minute where I couldn't really speak cuz I thought I heard wrong.

[00:34:37]>> I said what?

[00:34:38]>> He said yes.

[00:34:40]>> I said you got offers from famous preachers online to do these things in the bedroom with him.

[00:34:48]>> Yes. And I said do these preachers do they have the Holy Spirit? Do they speak in tongues? Do they prophesy? Do they do deliverance? Yes, he told me. And I asked him, are they married? Do they have children? Yes.

[00:35:02]>> They have hundreds of thousands of followers, some of them even millions of followers. And they are hiring young boys for these private services.

[00:35:13]>> And I just, you know, I was just flab flabbergasted. I couldn't believe >> I thought our conversation was going to go in a completely different direction.

[00:35:22]>> Wow.

[00:35:24][snorts] Um something wicked's going on.

[00:35:28]Um allegations, rumors for years can kind of happen about you know homosexuality ministers involved in it propositioning things happening but of course covered up because remember when the whole thing with Shawn BS came out [clears throat] you know Shawn Fo has been uh relatively quiet hasn't he on his friend, his board member Shawn Fo and Shawn BS were on each other's board members boards. They were board members on each other's boards. And Shawn BS is the kind of guy that just likes to get naked in front of other men.

[00:36:19]And they all knew for so long. You know, Mike Winger, thank God, an apostle, a true apostle. Do you think that there's super apostles in your churches? What a joke. Shayon and the rest of them. What a joke.

[00:36:34]Stuff's coming out.

[00:36:39]The super apostles that are God's chosen are those that are fearless against unrighteousness and sin.

[00:36:51]And God's in a mood about all of it.

[00:36:56]He hates sin.

[00:36:58]He does love the sinner. But when you have turned your back and you have been getting that callous heart the Bible talks about, he that hardens his heart, being often reproved, shall suddenly be cut off. That's what the Bible says. You will suddenly be cut off without remedy. I shudder to think what that means. If God's telling you to stop doing something, we all need to listen. It could be a small thing because not everybody's, you know, living a pretty good life, right? Some of y'all think that you're living pretty good, but sometimes God is reminding us of tiny little things. We have to hear him and we need to obey.

[00:37:44]And I remind myself of that, that I would be obedient when God is saying, you know, Lauren, you know, you're you're kind of uh doing this or that.

[00:37:52]Um, let's say it's um um you know driving and um uh touching your phone.

[00:37:59]Okay, we have a two-cond rule here in Canada. We're allowed to touch our phone for 2 seconds. So, can't do it more than that. All right, you got to be right. The Holy Spirit convicts us of little things and he says, "Be careful.

[00:38:12]Be careful.

[00:38:14]Don't do that." You hear that still small voice. Then the Holy Spirit gets a little bit louder. Now, what is it like when it's gross sin?

[00:38:22]When when you're a predator, you're a wolf and you've gotten power and money. That kind of money, not everybody gets the millions and millions of dollars that TBN and Dayar get, but they get a lot.

[00:38:39]Yeah. They they build big ministries and they get powerful. Then they can start appointing different people. Then they've got friends with benefits, right?

[00:38:53]So the big leader even gets older, oversees everything, appoints these different ones. Well, who does he bring in? He brings in people he's abused, people he can control, people he can blackmail, people he can buy off with the money because he's wicked at the top.

[00:39:17]This is happening. This is happening all over North America, all over the world.

[00:39:24]Some of you follow me from from Australia, from the UK. I think we had someone from the UK today. I just saw something.

[00:39:35]I want you to know something.

[00:39:38]There's a short window.

[00:39:42]Everybody needs to repent.

[00:39:46]God's done with it.

[00:39:48]You who have been using others for gain for for predatory reasons, you've um you've failed.

[00:39:58]You're evil. You're a wolf in sheep's clothing. It's not okay.

[00:40:02]It's really not okay. So, uh Steve wrote me and he says, uh there are things common amongst all tyrannical regimes or organizations and you're seeing them in Dayar.

[00:40:14]I love this guy. He sends me a fair amount of stuff. He seems to be very um he has wisdom.

[00:40:22]They like to m maintain power through control. No tolerance for resistance or opposition. Oh no. If you're if you're a resistor, if you say something, you're fired. You're let go. Either you sign an NDA on your way out or you don't get a severance.

[00:40:40]Your life's toast if you if you don't comply, man. You don't have a you don't have a uh a voice big enough to make a difference a lot of times.

[00:40:54]Crush and eliminate any opposition.

[00:40:57]That's their perspective. Maintain control through intimidation, fear, andor this is interesting one. Circle that. Let's keep this terror.

[00:41:09]They terrorize people.

[00:41:12]You don't do what we say. You try to come against us. You try to uh maybe you think you're going to rat us out or be a whistleblower. We are going to terrorize you. You better not even think to to come against us. I mean, when I was growing up, we had a predator in our church. Whenever somebody raised too much of a stink, all of a sudden, they were gone because they couldn't go against the big cog, the big wheel. That the only one that had the microphone was the pastor.

[00:41:39]So if they were covering for somebody like their own brother, what are you going to do? There was no power. All the power was in the pulpit.

[00:41:50]God has flipped the tables.

[00:41:54]I thank God for people like Paul Crouch Jr. I thank God for Jonathan and Susie.

[00:42:00]Each in their different journeys, different circumstances, some similar.

[00:42:06]And yet there they are saying no this far and no further. You don't get to put an alleged predator on Dayar every single day in our faces.

[00:42:18]Somebody with with enough to to be very very suspicious and out an outright liar. And see Tom Arnold and Steve can just turn a blind eye because they love their paychecks.

[00:42:34][laughter] They love their paychecks. They love the money.

[00:42:40]They will not sacrifice themselves on the altar of what is right like others will.

[00:42:49]They won't do it.

[00:42:53]So Steve says, "History is full of examples, but let's note some recent or current Nazi Germany 1933 to 1945."

[00:43:03]Number two, current mass media. Yep, that's what we're talking about today.

[00:43:09]Number three, as well, current mega and apostate churches. That's what we're up against.

[00:43:17]How do we overcome? My goodness, such small voices. I mean, I only have my my small crew uh every day, right? maybe um 60 80,000, you know, by the end of the week listening per co per podcast. Um it depends, some more, some less.

[00:43:39]We've got a group of us.

[00:43:41]What if you all got more bold?

[00:43:46]Some of you need to let the granny's and the the grandpas know what's going on at Dayar cuz they have no clue. Do many of you do do you have a family and they're supporting Day Star cuz they have no idea, man. The granny's and the grandpas, they need their own little phone here, maybe a little iPad, and they need to watch some videos.

[00:44:08]They need to see a man like Pastor Ray telling the truth about someone like Joshua Brown.

[00:44:14]They need to read the Roy report by Julie Roy.

[00:44:21]A woman who's paid a very high price to speak the truth. Often slandered.

[00:44:29]The grandmas and the grandpas.

[00:44:31]These are people that will not support this nonsense if they knew.

[00:44:36]They need to know.

[00:44:38]Make sure they're on YouTube. Make sure they know who the Royy's report is. and say, "You know, I know you watch this every day. Did you know such and such?

[00:44:48]Let me just show you some things, grandma, because their money, they're paying the biggest price so they can keep bringing in their money and God's watching."

[00:45:05]Some observations, says Steve. All run and ruled by the devil. Yes. Amen, brother. All follow the enemy's agenda and age-old formula regarding opposition in this order. Marginalize, silence, and eliminate. Do you know why they're trying to make me look so bad right now?

[00:45:25]They want to marginalize me. They want to put little pictures up, stupid pictures. One, I'm the size of a house, which was interesting. I can see what I'd look like with a bit of weight on.

[00:45:39]But it's um it's all to marginalize.

[00:45:43]It's all to try to silence me.

[00:45:46]Why do they do this to Susie and Jonathan and and and put evil horns on their heads and make it look like we're all in with the devil? Well, to try to eliminate us, to silence us.

[00:46:01]It's a good thing we all have a sense of humor because we get quite a kick out of it. I mean, I've got a whole scrapbook happening now. Like, I love it. It's kind of fun.

[00:46:10]All right. Jesus warned about the devil's hatred and methods to destroy us. He comes only to steal, kill, and destroy. The father of lies. He said he will lie about anything and everything.

[00:46:24]And he'll lie about you and try to bring shame where Christ has set you free. Don't let him, everybody. Don't let him. Don't let the devil win.

[00:46:38]kick the devil in the pants by telling the truth. My mom used to say that. She used to say, "Tell the truth, shame the devil."

[00:46:47]All right.

[00:46:49]These Daystar people will not listen to reason or be convicted.

[00:46:54]I fear we're there. When you get a heart a hardened heart, [clears throat] when you get a hardened heart and uh you the Holy Spirit's been speaking and you allow the callous to go over your heart, you are literally turned over to a reprobate mind and you don't even know it.

[00:47:15]You don't even know it. I mean, you don't even know you're lying. You You will say and do anything. What would make a man like Tom Calendarer literally lie to the world and say that a call and what he said to a prominent person who doesn't lie?

[00:47:30]What would make a man like Tom Calendarer just tell everyone that that she's the liar and that he never said that and write to Jonathan and tell everyone to shut up?

[00:47:42]Don't say that I said those things. I never said that.

[00:47:46]Yeah, you did.

[00:47:48]It was heard by three people.

[00:47:54]Sally in the phone call, prominent leader in the community, not a liar. What? For what reason would she lie? It was a joyous moment to hear Tom break down in the power of the Holy Spirit, basically going, "Thank God. Is this over?" like, "Yes, let's let's move past. Let's find reconciliation. Let's get things put right." Because a little while ago, Dayar was on a road and they went, "So people are trying to bring it back to where you screwed up." That was getting rid of Jonathan.

[00:48:39]But there's money involved now. A lot.

[00:48:44]There's a very ambitious young daughter that feels she deserves.

[00:48:51]You know, whatever you compromise to keep, you'll eventually lose with great shame.

[00:48:58]Rachel is going to lose this this land that she feels she's taken.

[00:49:05]It will be she will live to go through a day where she regrets every moment of the shenanigans she's pulling right now.

[00:49:19]It will be her shame.

[00:49:21]She will repent and she will get freedom. We pray. I I don't know. I I don't see repentance in this family.

[00:49:31]You got Rebecca and JW just the silence of the lambs right now.

[00:49:37]They don't care.

[00:49:39]They got their money.

[00:49:42]We have a serious situation.

[00:49:45]And all of these codgers, they don't care. So the Dayar people will not listen to reason or be convicted. They will not be shamed, writes Steve. They will stop at nothing. If you know your history, these people are like Nazi thugs who intimidate.

[00:50:03]They beat up or murder any opposition with the goal to silence them.

[00:50:10]Is that the case?

[00:50:13]Uh beat up or murder? Is this the day mafia that was spoken about by Jonathan H? If you know your Bible history, these people are like the Romans who subjugated and crushed and crucified any opposition with the goal to silence them. A while back, I noted the deaths of Marcus and Joanie, says Steve, are both suspicious, circumstances unexplained, questions unanswered. Isn't it the truth? Where did she die? It's Is it a big secret? Who cares? I mean, Mexico or in Bedford in her bed?

[00:50:54]Two different stories, never clarified, never given a proper response. Why? Why was there an opioid overdose or not?

[00:51:07]There is no transparency in Dayar because there is so many things they're covering up. One leads into the other and they can't say nothing.

[00:51:18]and Doug Doug the pug still lingering there in the background somewhere a lot less but nonetheless both were leaders both came to the point of a willingness to talk and both became a threat so now they're talking about Marcus and Joanie both died these suspicious deaths um with questions left interesting so fascinating Both made themselves a target. They had begun to speak out, confessing truth. Speaking out against the leadership will not be tolerated.

[00:52:00]Even the smallest thing will be challenged lest it threaten the entire house of cards and lies, even a child's sleepover.

[00:52:09]Hence, such persons are a danger and must be silenced.

[00:52:13]Right back where we started with power and control. Rachel, Rebecca, JW, beware. Sleep with one eye open.

[00:52:22]Wow. He He included Rachel, Rebecca, JW.

[00:52:26]But God we know is far greater than a few deranged leaders. He knows their lies and they will not be able to stand against him. He will deal strongly with them in his time and eliminate them if necessary.

[00:52:41]God bless. Thank you, Steve. Thank you for your great letter. We will put a three-hole punch in that and keep it for posterity and we'll reread it once in a while to see how it all came true.

[00:52:55]Fascinating, isn't it?

[00:52:57]I want to show you just a little bit uh before we get to the terrible sins financially of Dayar.

[00:53:05]Um you all know this guy Ted Bundy.

[00:53:09]I um I wanted to show you a couple of clips where people talked about the black eyes of Ted Bundy. So do which I'm not sure which one we should start with or if you know uh JT >> 310. Let's do it. All right. Take it away. But I could see his I was about 3 in under the water cuz it was a long reach even for him. So I was about 3 in or 4 in under the water. But I could see him clearly and his face was just twisted. I I want to say it looked like the worst case of varicose veins you've ever seen in somebody's face. And when he because he was hanging down, I could see that his teeth were all gnarled. And then I looked at his eyes and they looked like two giant black marbles.

[00:53:57]There was no white, no color, no nothing.

[00:54:01]I don't see anything like it. But I could see his I was about Whoops. So this lady, she was a survivor of Ted Bundy trying to kill her at a lake and she had to swim. She had to get under a um you know, a walkway. She had to hide.

[00:54:19]Um, but from underneath he leans over looking at her and she sees the big black marbled eyes.

[00:54:29]And when you investigate all of this, it has to do with um anger, uh, arousal, violence.

[00:54:39]When these men talk about these kinds of things, it uh becomes uh you can see it in in their eyes. Um, is the next one JT? Uh, that's about Chris Watt. So, let's save that. If Could we go to 314? So, this was Ted Bundy's cousin that didn't and didn't want to believe and didn't know that Ted Bundy was a serial killer. But guess what she saw?

[00:55:10]She saw the black eyes. Take a listen.

[00:55:14]I'm Ted Bundy's cousin, and I'll never forget the day that I realized he was a killer. So, I get down to the street, there's kind of a crowd there, and they're milling around, and the crowd parts just a little bit, and I go, "Oh my god, it's Ted." And he's standing there in the middle of all these people with his his arms out like he's some kind of a messiah. He's kind of got his eyes closed and he's going, "I'm Ted Bundy." over and over again as he's turning around and I'm getting him out of there before something happens. Throw him in my car. I'm driving along and then I look over. We're not talking and I turn my head and I look at him and he's looking back at me and he's smiling and I go, "Oh my god, he did it." That's when I it hit me that this thing that's next to me is possibly one of the [music] most dangerous people in America. One of the songs that came on was kind of low and I turned around to to look at Ted and Ted and Margie were kind of dancing and she was in his arms with her head leaned on his on his shoulder and I thought, "Oh, that's nice." And then I looked at him and I thought I was like, "Whoa." because he was looking down at the top of her head and he had this really mean look on his face and his jaw was clenched and his blue eyes were totally black and he looked he looked I didn't even recognize him. He looked like a completely different person and it freaked me out and I thought something was wrong with him and I kind of yelled at him so I could get above the music and said, "Hey Ted, Ted, are you okay?" And then finally I took the arm off the record, the stylus, and said, "Hey, Ted, what's going on? Are you okay?" And he just kind of shook his head and snapped out of it. And then his million-doll smile came back and he says, "Oh, uh, you know, I'm just fine."

[00:57:07]But it was his eyes that really freaked me out because they were so black. And I I found out since then from all the people I've talked to and a forensic psychologist and things when people get into that state of excitation and a lot of times these you know people who are thinking these evil thoughts their pupils dilate and so that's why it looks black like that and he was someplace else and at that time I just thought well that's weird and then he was fine and I didn't really think anything of it but he left Almost immediately after that, he said, "You know what? I got to go." And it was so abrupt that Margie and I kind of looked at each other and went, "Oh, okay." So many people believed in him. He got recommendations from his professors and he had gotten a letter of recommendation from the governor of our state, Dan Evans. That shows you who all believed in him and how much how much he had going for him as a different way he could have gone and he didn't. So, he was off to Utah.

[00:58:09]He left his girlfriend and started a new chapter there. And we didn't really think about it, but the the abductions stopped after he left. Looking back, I think his girlfriend was starting to suspect some things were off because she was around him a lot more. So at the university bookstore at that time when you went up to the cash register you faced these Florida ceiling windows and you could actually see down to down a story down to the busy street below that's called the a university avenue and I was you know moving up towards the cashier and I start seeing a bunch of activity out the window and a bunch of people kind of turning around and rushing down to my left towards the corner and I'm going what's going going on down there and they're turning and pointing and gesturing like they don't know what's going on. And then I started getting a bad feeling. I go out the front and I asked somebody, "Hey, what's what's going on? What's going on out there?" And she said, "I don't know.

[00:59:14]Something's happening down on the corner." And I went, "Uh-oh." And I don't know why I thought that. And I decide to go with a flow that's heading down towards the corner. And I get down there and I can see across the street and it's a kind of a big corner. So, there's kind of a crowd there and they're milling around and and I'm stuck at a stoplight and I'm tapping my foot cuz I'm impatient to see what's going on over there. And the crowd parts just a little bit and I go, "Oh my god, it's Ted." And and I looked at him and he's in the middle of this whole thing. I go, "What in the hell is going on?" And he's standing there in the middle of all these people with his his arms out like he's some kind of a messiah. and he's slowly rotating and he's just he's kind of got his eyes closed and he's going, "I'm Ted Bundy." over and over again as he's turning around and I'm going, "Oh my god." That moment I thought, "Who is this guy? I don't know if I know who this guy is." That's when I just had chills go through me and I'm starting to think there's a lot more to him than I think I know. You know what I found so interesting about um her closeup being able to see and um watch the personality is that some of us might think that when somebody gets accused of, oh, you're you're Ted Bundy. Um people are maybe thinking you're the killer. Um, sometimes people who are sociopaths or vicious predators, they kind of like to be hidden in open sight. They like the limelight.

[01:01:03]They don't run and hide. They actually stay steady eyed enjoying the spotlight on them even as there is growing evidence that there's a problem with them. Very interesting. And the eyes. So I do have a share JT. I'm wondering if you can see. It's called um it's this one. Ted Bundy's many faces.

[01:01:32]how the serial killer was able to change his appearance so easily. And uh there was a gentleman and uh this was last updated July 16th, 2026. Can you believe it? So it's published in February 21, 2019.

[01:01:51]The man who has written this is Adam uh Janos, if I'm saying it correctly, and he had a chameleonike ability to deafly change appearance. But the the part I want to um go to because you can read this if you'd like to. It's a fascinating um it's a fascinating article about all of it. But here it says, "In addition to Bundy's prop work, he could also physically change sometimes mid conversation, says Misho."

[01:02:20]According to the author during his Bundy So this is an author uh of a book that was he put together on the murders of Ted Bundy.

[01:02:29]And according to the author during his Bundy interviews, the killer's face would physically change with his mood.

[01:02:36]It started with his eyes, his true dayto-day eye color. He had these kind of pretty blue eyes, says Misho. But when he really got going, his eyes got black. Micho isn't sure why that is, although he's open to the idea that it might have had something to do with pupil dilation at times of heightened arousal.

[01:02:58]In addition to the blackened eyes, Misho also says when Bundy would concentrate hard on something, it would cause temporary facial discolorations and swelling. This happened three to four times. He says a welt would start crossing his cheek, the right cheek under his eye. It was so straight. It wasn't like a scratch. it was white or light flesh colored uh lighter than his flesh and then when he'd relax it would fade.

[01:03:24]So interesting.

[01:03:27]But the eyes the windows to the soul. I want one more case study uh to present to you regarding how significant this is. And I am going to be also highlighting how people are beginning to use it when they're trying to um find if there is um a predictor of someone being a predator and they go into testing. And I'm going to have that um in in the next um uh probably the next couple days a bit of that. So, this is another another um interesting story and this is about a guy that was named um Chris uh Chris Watts and he killed his wife and family and this is a little clip about about his story. Take a look.

[01:04:13]>> Did you become proficient in your mind telling what he was lying and not?

[01:04:17]>> I think so. Um, I'm not a doctor, so I can't diagnose him with, you know, that.

[01:04:22]But, uh, I could kind of tell when he was telling the truth, and I'm not kidding, his eyes would go dark when he would talk about the murders. And just just dark. And it was very strange to me. And I asked him if anyone else had ever told him that since the murders.

[01:04:42]And he had been told that, that his eyes would go dark when he would talk about it.

[01:04:53]very very odd.

[01:04:56]So when Susie Lamb almost of course and not knowing anything about this and Susie and Jonathan not knowing but they're sitting there they're being interviewed by Bla1 and Christina for the Wake Up and Win podcast and they share and Jonathan says but Susie tell them that part where you you just really saw his black eyes.

[01:05:20]They had no idea. I have shared this information with them this week and a little that little clip that we put together and they're they're in shock because it was such a a thing that Susie saw in Josh Brown's eyes that was so instantaneous as she tells her little girl to go up and change. She looks in his eyes. You see, this all happened.

[01:05:47]This there's no alternate story to all of this. The alternate story was Joany's retelling to Marcus Rogers of basically Joshua Brown's version. Sadly, I don't know what kind of mother doesn't stand up for her son and daughter-in-law when such a clear and distinct situation took place. Suzy looks at Joshua's eyes and they turn black.

[01:06:20]And then he does the strangest thing.

[01:06:24]All of you women, would your husband do this? Maybe if he's a weirdo and a nut job.

[01:06:34]But how many of you could say, "My husband would not do that." Susie instructs her daughter to get changed.

[01:06:44]And he heads up and follows after her into a room where she begins undressing because she's been instructed by her mom to go get changed. She's a little kid.

[01:06:59]It's fascinating that one of the documents that we actually have um let me see if I can share this JT but the lawyers for Josh Brown gave the the Royport lawyer Christine Jones fascinating beautiful lady brilliant you don't want to go up against her she's great she kind of gets in this day and age that some others don't. But they had to sort of rebut some some of the lawyers uh things. And one of the interesting uh things is they they wanted, you know, they wanted um this this notation about Pete's eyes. They wanted that taken out.

[01:07:45]Like Susie had said that and they were like, "Well, no, that's her testimony."

[01:07:48]Nobody said in this letter, listen, look, we're not taking that out because that's a that's one of the markers of a predator.

[01:07:58]None of that. They just said, you know, Sus's statement is arguably a matter of non-actionable opinion based on her observation of another which cannot be verified or falsified.

[01:08:11]So, um, then the next one was they wanted this dealt with. Okay, Joshua's lawyers. To my horror, when I got up there, my daughter was completely naked and he was in the room. This is uh Jonathan's statement. We appreciate your admission that Jonathan and Susie Lamb's daughter began changing into a swimsuit in a different part of a room while Pete was present. Pete, of course, is Joshua Brown. Now, we do not see where statement five is false. Furthermore, inclusion of this quote by Jonathan Lamb constitutes TRR's accurate reporting of an allegation regarding a matter of public concern. They wanted this statement taken out. Why?

[01:08:54]This is Jonathan's statement of what exactly happened. What was the problem?

[01:09:01]We appreciate your admission that Okay, so he's up there. What's he doing there? He was just in the kitchen with Suzie. He was just standing there with his eyes going black.

[01:09:15]Now he's in a bedroom with the child changing.

[01:09:20]Thank you for acknowledging that.

[01:09:27]Wow.

[01:09:29]One final thing. Let's go in to a little bit about the money because the money is why Tom Arnold and Steve can't see straight that they're about to appoint a young woman who is challenged in many ways.

[01:09:51]Take a look at who her friends are.

[01:09:54]There's a lot of people on Jonathan and Susie's side. Not one of them is making vicious evil memes with demon horns. I mean, I'm tempted, but I I just I make I make memes for our thumbnails. I I direct my editor, D. He likes to be called D.

[01:10:18]I direct our editor. I say, "This is my thought today. This is what I'll be covering, and this is kind of what I visualize." Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. comes up with it depending.

[01:10:28]Um, but I I try to show something that's happening like they're taking over the place. It's all about the Benjamins.

[01:10:37]It's all about the money flowing. This is why they can't see. I don't Okay. All right. In all fairness, I put you in pirate suits once and I said, [clears throat] you know, that they've taken over the ship or something like that. And I put y'all I put Tom Arnold and Steve in in pirate outfits. You know, frankly, I thought you you look great. I mean, you know, kind of handsome in that, but not me. I got the witch's hat. I got a green face. I got a big nose. I'm huge.

[01:11:11]I'm demonic.

[01:11:12]Susie and Jonathan are demonized. It is like and they there's an account that that's that refers to them and myself in such it's demonic and then they've gone after Miss Denise in some respects one account.

[01:11:36]I I just want to stand back. I don't want to be anywhere near y'all because we're God's kids and he's watching. So, the Rev, I've been watching the Rev. Any of you caught up with the Rev? He's an interesting guy. And uh please watch my my fellow um my fellow podcasters and the Rev. He's interesting. All right. And the Juice Radio, check her out. Right. I see her audience growing. I love them.

[01:12:13]We are the truth tellers that we don't care about the money and we we don't care about your power.

[01:12:22]It's meaningless to us. We glory in the power of the Lord Jesus Christ. So this is the Rev. Take a look. He has some information about the money. It's interesting. Take a look. A woman asked a television network to give back some of the money she's given them over 27 years. That's the whole request. Nothing more complicated than that.

[01:12:48]What she got back wasn't an answer about her money. It was an attack on someone who wasn't even in the room, wasn't copied on the email, and never got a chance to respond.

[01:13:01]Her name is Bonita Beth Brock and she lives in Soxy, Missouri. She's been given the Dayar television network since 1997. And that's not a casual donor.

[01:13:13]That's nearly three decades of monthly gifts sent in good faith to a ministry she trusted. This spring, after everything that had come out about the network, Brock decided she'd had enough and she put it in writing. By this point, a lot had already surfaced.

[01:13:31]Reporting had detailed a $100,000 honeymoon charged to a Dayar credit card. You've heard it before, a $1 million compensation package. Seven homes worth nearly $12 million owned by network president Joanie Lamb. And underneath it all, the allegation that had started this entire story that Joony's own son and daughter-in-law believed she covered up the abuse of their young daughter.

[01:14:01]Let's actually look at that compensation number because the specifics matter here. And this isn't the first time Dayar has answered a financial question by attacking the person who raised it.

[01:14:14]An internal dayar document titled final salary review for 2023 and obtained by the Royce report shows that in 2021 while Marcus Lamb still led the network, Joany's salary was $436,750.

[01:14:31]In 2022, after Marcus died and Joanie took over as president, her total compensation jumped to $1,48,200.

[01:14:42]That's a 140% increase in a single year.

[01:14:47]>> And it made her pay more than three times what Day Star's next highest paid employee earned that year.

[01:14:53]>> A chief financial officer named Arnold Torres, >> who made $300,000.

[01:14:59]>> Jonathan Lamb told TRR that his father had directed before he died that Jon should receive a salary equal to what the two of them had earned combined.

[01:15:09]That's his account of his father's wishes on the record and that belongs here.

[01:15:15]When that salary story broke, Dayar's response followed a pattern that should sound familiar by now. The network didn't primarily dispute the number on its own terms. It claimed Jonathan had quote misappropriated the internal document in breach of his fiduciary duties to Dayar and demanded he stop using salary information he provided to reporters. Dayar did also call the reported figure inaccurate, saying the real number was under seven figures. But notice the shape of the response. A financial question got answered in significant part by attacking Jonathan's conduct rather than by opening the books.

[01:15:59]>> That's it.

[01:16:01]Attack the man. Attack the righteous young ruler who didn't think a $100,000 honeymoon gift should be covered by the ministry because of all of your grandmas, your granny's, your grandpas, people you love.

[01:16:17]You might get a little bit of that inheritance yourself one day. Except they're giving it all away because Dayar loves to take people's inheritances and write us into the will. Will you? That's what they've done. Wow. Lots of schemes.

[01:16:35]And Arnold Torres with that very big salary.

[01:16:40]Well, we've come kind of to the end of our day, but I want to play this. JT, do you have my share? There it is. Uh, Williamson Sun's project. Are you able to bring that in? This is what we like to do with our spare money. Everyone, we like to help people that are down and out. And if you can help us, we would love it for $50 or more per month if you can sign up as a monthly member. Some of you like to give the whole amount for the whole year and we let you, okay?

[01:17:09][laughter] But if you can sign up, we are going to send you this beautiful little cross.

[01:17:13]This is a gorgeous silver cross. the entire chain and necklace. And so it's $50 or more per month and we will send that out to you. We would love for you to become a part of us, a part of what we do here. And can I just say that uh you can give anonymously. Some of you like that you give anonymously. We can take big or small, PayPal, credit card, whatever it is. We're a small operation.

[01:17:43]We operate by the spirit of the living God. And because of that, bigger people are afraid. You see, when you get too big, you can't risk saying the kinds of things that I'm able to say here. So, I ask that you would support us. If you think that this is beneficial, would you support us? We'd appreciate it.

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[01:20:13]Then Jesus entered a house. And of course at the at the top here in Mark 3 um it says Jesus accused by his family and by teachers of the law. Then Jesus entered a house and again a crowd gathered so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. Now listen to this next part. Okay. I underlined this whole section for my daughter cuz I want her to know that sometimes even your family thinks you're cray cray.

[01:20:44]>> [laughter] >> and you could be Jesus and they still think you're nuts.

[01:20:52]It says this, "When his family heard about this, when Jesus family heard about what was going on, they went to take charge of him, for they said, he is out of his mind." Have you ever heard a pastor preach about this? Let's open the word today to where Jesus' family thought he was insane because of what he was doing and saying and healing the lepers and speaking things in such a way that the Pharisees were livid. Oh my goodness. Oh no. All the religious leaders are mad at me.

[01:21:27]Woohoo. That wasn't Jesus concern.

[01:21:32]He came to bring a sword. He came to bring dissension between a mother and her daughter-in-law, a father and his son. Because when the truth sets you free, it sets you free from those that don't get it. And not everybody gets it, my friends. Not everybody understands those of you who love this show. Those of you who get that what we share here is God's truth.

[01:22:01]This is the This is the reformation. This is the change.

[01:22:07]This is the movement we're going into where we don't cover up. If you're at your church and you hear something's going down, make a stinking mess out of it. Like we had the guy that spoke yesterday, Stacy something, and he said, "Blow it sky high."

[01:22:28]basically yell it from the rooftops.

[01:22:31]Tell everybody so and so is essaying so and so. We've had multiple uh you know accusations. Uh this guy, he can't be in children's ministry anymore.

[01:22:44]We need an investigation and it's got to be pretty serious. Here's the problem.

[01:22:49]There's no video when predators are at work.

[01:22:53]There's no hard evidence. You have to believe the victims.

[01:22:59]So Jesus goes in and he is ruffling the feathers of all the Pharisees and the leaders and they hate him.

[01:23:07]He's not following the rules. He is not doing what what the rule book says. Oh my goodness, I think he healed somebody on the Sabbath. Nobody does that. We do not heal people on the Sabbath. We leave them in their leprosy if they have a deformed hand. If it's the Sabbath, we don't do that. We follow the law. You don't heal on the Sabbath.

[01:23:33]So Jesus, his family, they're like, "What is wrong with our brother? We had a nice family. Our dad was Joseph. Our wonderful mother Mary. She's a beautiful person. We have [music] the perfect family." And all of a sudden, Jesus is just like he's not doing what he's supposed to do. Jesus is not following the rules. It's an embarrassment.

[01:23:56]and they go to him and they say he's out of his mind. Somebody controlled Jesus.

[01:24:03]But guess what?

[01:24:05]Jesus can't be controlled and neither can his true followers. God bless you and we'll see you tomorrow, remnant.

[01:24:18]You know, it's not easy to deliver the truth of what our sick world is doing.

[01:24:22][music] But for some of us, we feel that we have no choice. Because if we are silent about these abominable things, then we [music] are letting evil go unchecked and we cannot do that. For those of you wonderful people who are writing me and are sharing your encouragement, I [music] am deeply grateful. Thank you for all the letters that you've been sending. Thank you for the donations and the support. I found out that in order to [music] speak the truth, you have to become very, very strong. If you would go to my website at www.uralind.tv, TV, you'll find [music] all of the ways that you can contact me. Remember, my friends, all is well. All is well.

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