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[00:00:00][music] The panel says evolution fact. Um, are we are we referring to the Charles Darwin version of the evolution theory?

[00:00:15][clears throat] >> Uh, yeah, that's the only one that biologists really accept. It's been we've added stuff to it but the the basic principle behind it even though Darwin didn't know anything about more advanced uh sciences such as genetics he was right about everything >> was he uh the the uh the primary principle that men turned into monkey correct >> no monkey turned into men I'm sorry that was that was >> men men are a type of monkey so yeah obviously ly and and we have the evidence for it.

[00:00:54]>> How Okay. Can we can we speak on that and s like how do you have how can you suggest that that's fact?

[00:01:00]>> Because we have the evidence for it.

[00:01:03]>> Okay.

[00:01:04]>> Here it's literally right on the screen.

[00:01:10]>> I'm sorry. I can't I can barely even see that. Um >> uh I can crop this and make it a little bit bigger.

[00:01:18]May you just like explain explain this because I can barely Okay, Chimpanzeee >> there. So, here I'll I'll make it bigger. Um, well, essentially here, let me I'm going to monkey with this on my end a little bit, too.

[00:01:36]Uh, I'm sure you've heard of or seen, you know, this before, right?

[00:01:41]>> Yes.

[00:01:42]>> Yeah. So I mean this is not actually scientifically correct the way the way it presents this would happen but the general gist of it is you know modern man didn't exist a long time ago.

[00:01:54]Instead it was something that's similar to us in certain ways and gradually uh it evolved into what we see in the modern day. Well that's the idea.

[00:02:05]And then yeah, we have the we have actual fossils of this like uh Lucy and um Homo habis and Homo erectus and many others.

[00:02:16]>> That's what these like you can't read the text but we have those things.

[00:02:21]>> Okay. I have a question about that.

[00:02:24]>> Yeah.

[00:02:24]>> So we do know that um blacks or whatever you want to call us Africans whatever were um the first people on the planet.

[00:02:34]We do know that that is I'm pretty sure as it's just proven scientifically proven.

[00:02:41]>> Charles Darwin was the first one to popularize that idea.

[00:02:45]>> Okay. No, not not popularize idea. That is literally proven. But um when when we speak on that, I have a question which is how did monkeys evolve to have a melanated pigmentation and then literally devolve to have a non-melanated pigmentation? A >> no such thing as devolve. If you change, you are evolving.

[00:03:06]>> Yes. But there is no there is no scientific there is no evolutionary advantage to pale skin.

[00:03:12]>> Yes, there is.

[00:03:13]>> What is it? There is none. There is none.

[00:03:16]>> No, there is. Do you do you know why we need sunlight?

[00:03:21]>> Yes.

[00:03:22]>> Go ahead.

[00:03:28]>> I'm sorry. Can I Can you Can you still Can Can you hear me?

[00:03:32]>> Yeah. I said go ahead. Why do we need sunlight?

[00:03:41]>> I'm not sure.

[00:03:43]>> Okay, you you said that you know, but whatever. Um, you need sunlight because it activates a uh metabolic process that creates vitamin D for us. We need vitamin We need vitamin D because vitamin D is an enzyme that helps I can't it's with calcium. I can't remember if it >> activates osteoclasts to uh form osteion or exactly what it is. I just took notes over this a couple weeks ago too. So that's embarrassing. But anyways, you need sunlight for vitamin D. Now if you live near the equator where there's a lot of sunlight, you can get skin cancer. So people that live near the equator have dark skin to uh block UV the damaging UV light uh which gives them a huge uh advantage in the in the in the form of a resistance to it's natural sunblock uh resistance to uh UV radiation. people that live away from the equator where the sunlight isn't as intense. Uh that extra melanin also makes it so you don't get as much um the uh vitamin D synthesis is slowed down the more melanin you have too. Now for people on the equator it's not a problem. People on the equator aren't vitamin D deficient because they live where the sunlight is really intense.

[00:05:08]but away from the equator where the sunlight is less intense, >> there's way less of a risk from skin cancer.

[00:05:15]>> So, you don't need the darker skin and it boosts your vitamin D uh uh >> production. So, this is completely this is completely explainable through evolution. My my question was what factual basis that you have that the sun or whatever force or existence or whatever literally can change people's pigmentation.

[00:05:41]Like how does that work? How did monkeys evolve to have a melanated pigmentation?

[00:05:45]How do you do that? I need scientific basis on that. Like how does that happen?

[00:05:49]>> Uh literally I don't know if melanin if all mammals have melanin. I would I would presume they do. There are others too like beta carotene like we have other pigments like beta carotene and some others. I'm guessing those are almost universal in in mammals. The difference is how much of them uh does any particular group have? Humans didn't evolve melanin from from nothing.

[00:06:17]Melanin melanin existed in animals before humans existed. So we just inherited it. Some humans have a lot of melanin. Some people that look like me don't have very much at all.

[00:06:27]>> Okay, of course. But the sun has never the sun has never been responsible for changing people's pigmentation. And this is this is there's no scientific basis on that.

[00:06:38]>> People that live away from the equator have paler skin.

[00:06:41]>> Yes. But how how did that I'm telling I'm asking you how how did that happen?

[00:06:46]the varigmentation literally.

[00:06:50]>> All you have to do >> Well, the the amount of melanin you have is is just a matter of um how active your your cells are. It's just a matter of it's kind of like a physio metabolic thing. Like some people are literally born with only one kidney. Uh like bodies bodies fluctuate pretty wildly.

[00:07:14]So the idea that there would be some group of people born and their skin is lighter is just like the most normal thing ever and as their skin was lighter uh and they and they lived farther away from the equator they got more vitamin D meaning they had stronger bones meaning I don't know they could punch woolly rhinos in the head a little bit harder and get more food something I'm obviously being a little facicious but like if you literally just follow Darwin's you're asking How did the sun make our skin change? Well, it doesn't work that way. What happens is >> the population of organisms, they're all a little bit different. Now, are some of those differences advantageous? H most of them don't really make a huge difference, but if one is advantageous, >> very, very big genetic differences, but we can go into that.

[00:08:02]>> No, they're not. The difference the difference between skin tone. There's a couple of genes that play a role in it, but the most significant one is literally a single base pair substitution.

[00:08:16]>> Okay?

[00:08:17]>> Like you d a dramatic melanin concentration. Uh it's it's actually the reverse. uh because you know our our African brothers are sort of they look like humanity did at it at its inception for the most part. Uh so it's actually in the other direction but literally you have three and a half billion molecules in your DNA linked together. Literally just take one of them and replace it with another one and that's the most significant uh you'll get the most significant uh melanin change just from that one thing.

[00:08:52]>> Okay. Okay. That's simple but okay. So, we know that plant physiology is like very close to human physiology. Um, >> no, it's not. What do you think? What are you saying?

[00:09:04]>> One of the only in what respect?

[00:09:06]>> One of the only differences between plants and people is that I'm pretty sure plants have magnesium and we have iron. Now, plants also have Wait, wait, wait. Give me a second. Give me a second.

[00:09:16]>> Plants don't have any tissue that humans have. Literally none.

[00:09:20]>> And humans don't have any tissue that plants have. Literally none. Give me a second. Plants also plants also have melanin. So why do plants pigmentation not also change due to the sign? Why are why do plants not also lose melanin over time? That that that's that's a very good question.

[00:09:40]>> Why don't plants lose melanin over time?

[00:09:44]I off the top of my head I don't have an answer to that. Plant uh can plants get cancer? This is an interesting question.

[00:09:54]>> I'm pretty sure they can, I guess. Um, okay. I'm not.

[00:09:58]>> Yes, plants do develop tumors called galls or burls, but they different significantly. So, burl is cancer, huh, that's interesting. I guess that kind of makes sense.

[00:10:08]>> I don't have an answer for you off the top of my head.

[00:10:10]>> Okay. Okay. I have no idea about why some plants don't don't uh lose melanin >> or have plants. We know that plants have different concentrations of pigment.

[00:10:22]Like you know that there are some plants that are purple, right?

[00:10:25]>> That's because they have a whole bunch of a different pigment. Chlorophyll is the most common one. I don't remember what the purple one is off the top of my head. Um but that literally like we have we have diversity in the plant kingdom as well. Plants come in all different colors.

[00:10:41]>> I have I have another question.

[00:10:42]>> Um we we know then and this is scientifically proven. We know, science proves if you are not of African descent, you are some form of Neanderthal. You also have fruitfly.

[00:10:53]>> Yes, this is true.

[00:10:55]>> No, this is true. If you are not sapiens, I'm not I'm not African. I'm not a type of homo sap. I'm not a type of Neanderl.

[00:11:04]>> I'm a different homosap.

[00:11:05]>> I did not tell you that.

[00:11:06]>> Yes, you did. You said non-Africans are a type of Neanderl. That's not true. I did not say that. I did not a type of Neanderthal.

[00:11:16]I said yes. I I said if you are not of African descent, you have some form of Neanderthal DNA as well as fruitfly DNA and a couple of other animals. Now, why is it that Africans are the only people on the planet that you can find with 100% human DNA and nothing else?

[00:11:34]>> Because Neanderls never lived in Africa.

[00:11:37]>> That's okay. But how does that contribute to their genetics? That that's >> because you don't get you get DNA from mommy and daddy. And if a Neanderl if a Neanderl never [ __ ] a human then there's no Neanderl DNA.

[00:11:52]>> Okay. Fruitfly. Yes.

[00:11:54]>> Because there are genes that you have that existed before humans existed and fruit flies have them. This is proof of evolution. Evolution means that there was once original organism and everything we see alive today is the descendant of it. Well, when things reproduce, they pass on DNA.

[00:12:17]>> That would necessarily mean that humans would share DNA, some DNA with other organisms. So, us having fruit flies is because us and fruit flies share a common ancestor a long time ago before either one of us existed. It didn't come from uh well, did you know that evolution teaches that one day a human had sex with a fruitfly? No, that's not not how that works.

[00:12:46]>> Okay, let me get my point. Let me get my point.

[00:12:48]>> You do realize that Africans also have fruitfly DNA, right?

[00:12:52]>> Yes, but I said Africans are the only only people that you can find with 100% human DNA and nothing else.

[00:13:00]>> Yes, because Neanderls never lived in Africa.

[00:13:03]>> Okay, I have another question.

[00:13:04]>> And Neanderls are just a subspecies of human. They're they're called homo neandertolus just like we're called homo sapiens.

[00:13:12]>> Let me ask this.

[00:13:13]>> Both homos.

[00:13:14]>> Okay. I'm pretty sure that caterpillars are able to turn into butterflies due to um what is it called? What is this transformation called? I'm >> metamorphosis.

[00:13:23]>> Metamorph metamorphosis. Yes. Okay.

[00:13:25]>> That's all insects metamorphosize.

[00:13:27]>> These these caterpillars have the proteins and genomes in their genetics in order to turn into butterflies.

[00:13:35]Monkeys do not have the proteins and genomes in their genetics to turn into an African. This is not like how how can you explain that? You can't put your head down.

[00:13:45]>> You do know that a caterpillar is just a butterfly larvae, right?

[00:13:50]>> Yes. But >> okay, they're not two they're not two different species, >> but we can use >> You're talking about you know, you used to be a unisellular thing.

[00:14:00]>> Yes.

[00:14:01]>> Okay. Okay. And you had the genes to turn into a multisellular thing. You were a human when you were a fertilized cell or fertilized egg. You're a human today. A caterpillar is the same organism that a butterfly is.

[00:14:15]>> A monkey organism as an African. So explain monkey.

[00:14:22]Evolution is not one day an animal is sitting there and then like anamorphs it just goes and then turns into another organism.

[00:14:33]That's not what evolution is.

[00:14:35]>> But my question was that monkeys do not have the proteins, genomes, acids, and whatever else that they have that Africans also don't have.

[00:14:44]>> Yes, they do. They have almost all of the exact same ones. You have n a chimpanzeee is 98.6% 6% genetically the same as a human being.

[00:14:56]There are some that we have that they don't have. There are some that they have that we don't have.

[00:15:02]>> We have tons of genes that are exactly the same in in them.

[00:15:08]>> Now, we are chimpanzees didn't turn into humans, but >> okay. But these are two different species though. How does that possible?

[00:15:20]Not only did they evolve to have >> because over time DNA in populations changes >> not only did they evolve to have a really melanated pigmentation. We we are two different species.

[00:15:32]>> Have you ever seen Have you ever seen a hairless chimpanzeee? They're already melanated. Nothing had to change for that. The only thing that changed was people that left Africa.

[00:15:42]>> A lot of them became less melanated.

[00:15:45]>> Okay. A monkey and a human cannot reproduce because they do not have the same genetic structures. So how did the monkey evolve into the African? I'm asking you that >> because the because the DNA changes over time.

[00:15:59]>> That's due to what though? How? Let me give me >> how does DNA change? There are lots of reasons.

[00:16:04]>> No no no no no. Give me the cause of the monkeykey's DNA changing into the Africans. I want you to tell me how. on disjunction, random mutation, transllocations, chromosomeal fusions.

[00:16:16]>> No, that's >> What do you mean no? You don't know anything about this. I just gave you several answers and you said no.

[00:16:24]>> Random mutation does not just happen.

[00:16:27]>> Of course, it just happened. You look different than your parents.

[00:16:31]>> That's because of random Well, it's it's because you have two different people's DNA in you. But it >> buddy If if we looked at your DNA that you got from your dad, it wouldn't be exactly the same.

[00:16:48]>> It's not. It's not. But we are both me and my dad.

[00:16:51]>> DNA changes over time. Me and my dad are the same exact species of people. No, but >> yes, of course. Evolution. We are dealing with two We are dealing with two completely different species. A African.

[00:17:03]How? I I want you to tell me the cause.

[00:17:07]>> DNA changes. I'm going to give you an analogy to make this make sense to you.

[00:17:12]You know that languages change, right?

[00:17:16]>> Yes, obviously.

[00:17:17]>> Okay.

[00:17:19]5,000 years ago, if I transported you back in time 5,000 years ago, would you be able to talk to anybody?

[00:17:26]>> No, of course not.

[00:17:28]>> Okay. Well, then how did English just all of a sudden evolve?

[00:17:31]>> That's not No, but these are these are not at all the same. Exactly the same analogy >> because what makes an organism what it is? Its DNA. What if you only change a tiny fragment of the DNA? Then the organism only changes by a tiny fragment. But >> the DNA cannot come.

[00:17:50]>> Shut up. Oh [ __ ] I accidentally disconnected him. I meant to mute you. I just disconnected you. Please re-request and I will bring you up. I'm sorry.

[00:18:01]Okay, there he is.

[00:18:03]I'm back.

[00:18:04]>> Okay, my bad.

[00:18:06]When the DNA changes microscopically, the organism barely changes, but those changes don't go away. So once there have been hundreds of thousands of generations, it means that you've accumulated hundreds of thousands of differences, meaning the organism at the end of that process is different than the organism at the beginning. Here's why it's a perfect analogy to language.

[00:18:32]Somebody English didn't happen one day because some people that speak a completely different language gave birth to a baby that started speaking English.

[00:18:42]Instead, instead microscopic parts of the language change every generation.

[00:18:49]But once there have been so many generations, virtually none of the words are the same anymore. So, it's a completely different language. If I transported you back in time 500 years ago, you could talk to people that live in the British Isles, but it would be kind of difficult. But then if I transported you back a thousand years, you couldn't talk to any of them. All of the words would be different. Yet, every single one of the people living there creates a chain of beings that speak a language that became modern English bit by bit. That's how it happens with DNA.

[00:19:27]The DNA changes a tiny bit every generation, but when you have millions of generations, you have dramatic changes.

[00:19:34]>> But German and Latin utilize some of the same characters, aka the same for what we all life on the planet [clears throat] shares.

[00:19:41]>> You cannot you cannot take an entirely different language and trans and transform it into a new language.

[00:19:47]>> Yes, you can. It's happened countless times. But no, cuz these were these were this was done using the same characters from Portuguese.

[00:19:55]>> Spanish, French, uh, Italian are all derivatives of Latin, which was a completely different language.

[00:20:03]>> But these were done. Okay. Okay. Okay.

[00:20:06]Cuz these were done using the same characters from different languages. We are talking about two different species here. I'm trying to I'm trying to help.

[00:20:12]>> And all species have the same DNA molecules.

[00:20:16]>> But how?

[00:20:17]>> And they share a bunch of them.

[00:20:21]DNA changes every generation. This is this is this is known. Like if you want a more indepth explanation, step one, you smash cloacas together with other people that have cloakas. Step two, your offspring are slightly different. Step three, your offspring smash their cloakas with other people that have cloakas. Step four, rinse and repeat.

[00:20:45]Eventually, the cloakas don't fit anymore. So you have two different species that can't clo smash anymore.

[00:20:53]Um and then they just and then just repeat steps one through four a bunch of times.

[00:21:01]>> Okay. Cuz you you you kind of like not answering my question though.

[00:21:05]>> Buddy, I promise I've answered your question multiple times. DNA changes every single generation.

[00:21:13]>> The only way to change an organism is to change its DNA. This is known to happen.

[00:21:20]>> Yes, but these uh one species of animal cannot completely metamorph over time, not even over time into another species.

[00:21:27]Cuz if that's the case, why are >> they and we have the evidence of it.

[00:21:30]>> Why are monkeys still not evolving into humans?

[00:21:33]>> Monkeys didn't the monkeys that are alive today didn't turn into humans a long time ago. The monkeys today evolved into the monkeys of today. A really long time ago, the monkeys that live today didn't exist.

[00:21:48]>> What type of monkeys did then? I'm not I'm not sure. How how does that make any sense?

[00:21:52]>> It depends on what species you want to talk about. If you're talking about between us and chimps, then it was Selhanthropus something something uh 7 million years ago or whatever its name is.

[00:22:07]All life on the humans didn't come from chimpanzees. Do you think that we did?

[00:22:12]No, we came from neand or at least that's what the Charles Darwin version of the evolution thing.

[00:22:18]>> No, it isn't.

[00:22:19]>> Charles Darwin never said no. He never taught that either. Neanderls are a different species of human.

[00:22:26]>> Okay, then what? Then explain that.

[00:22:29]Explain.

[00:22:32]>> It's exactly like Portuguese and Spanish. They're neighbors.

[00:22:37]>> Portuguese didn't come from Spanish.

[00:22:40]Instead, a long time ago, before either language existed, there were people speaking the same language in two different parts of the world, these people started changing their words bit by bit. These people started changing their words bit by bit. But because they don't live near each other, the bits that they changed didn't interact. And then one became modern Spanish, one became modern Portuguese. That's how it happens with DNA, too. The DNA changes.

[00:23:09]The changes accumulate. Species become new species over vast stretches of time.

[00:23:19]>> Can you still hear me? I'm sorry.

[00:23:20]>> Yes, >> that that was that was uh my computer.

[00:23:23]Um >> Mhm.

[00:23:25]>> Okay.

[00:23:29]Cuz I'm I'm pulling it up right about now.

[00:23:32]>> Pulling it up?

[00:23:34]>> No. as I uh as I get ready to ask you another question. Um >> well, we can we can dwell on we can dwell on back to the uh the uh the melanin topic and uh how >> you want to go back to melanin. I thought we were done with that.

[00:23:51]>> You're asking where the original is done. Am I correct? What?

[00:23:54]>> Oh no.

[00:23:56]Um actually can you give me another example of a species evolving to have completely a a completely different melan melanated pigmentation and also a species just a completely different species entirely? Like why does this only happen for [clears throat] >> black panthers?

[00:24:15]>> Yes, but no that's not true.

[00:24:17]>> Yes, but no. What the [ __ ] do you mean?

[00:24:19]Black panthers are just >> regular jaguars or leopards with more melanin.

[00:24:26]>> Yes, but these are not two completely different species and they can and they can still a black panther can reproduce with a jaguar. A monkey cannot reproduce with an African. So, how did these changes these huge changes occur? These changes are impossible to occur. Actually, this this >> they're not impossible to occur.

[00:24:47]Like what what what could possibly make even if you like you don't believe in evolution uh presumably what you believe in Adam and Eve?

[00:24:57]>> Are we no are we talking about religion now?

[00:25:00]>> Yeah, kind of. I'm just asking you believe in evolution. So how do you believe humans showed up on Earth?

[00:25:09]>> I believe that the first humans were naturally occurring from the earth and then I believe that >> that's evolution.

[00:25:17]Yes, but no, not not technically.

[00:25:19]>> What the [ __ ] is going on?

[00:25:21]>> This is not from an entire This is not from an entirely different species. And I also believe that other humans >> So you think we magically naturally >> I believe that other humans who are not of African descent were genetically created by a different species.

[00:25:35]>> Okay. So you're a you're a hotep or whatever. No, not you're What is this?

[00:25:39]Nation of Islam?

[00:25:41]>> That's Oh, no. Not the Nation of Islam.

[00:25:43]No.

[00:25:44]>> What are you? You're you're one of those you're you're in that group that thinks white people were created in a lab and that black people used to live on the moon.

[00:25:52]>> That's not No, of course not.

[00:25:54]>> What do you What do you believe?

[00:25:56]>> Okay, I do believe that all humans were created uh by an outside species of extraterrestrial, any human. But I don't I do not believe that we are all the same. No.

[00:26:10]So you think that white people were created uh in a separate experiment by the aliens?

[00:26:17]>> I guess if you want to consider that.

[00:26:19]Yes.

[00:26:20]>> But no, not the Yaku theory.

[00:26:22]>> Yeah. No, it some something even dumber, I guess.

[00:26:27]Uh okay. Well, [ __ ] I don't I don't know what to then. Why is it that white people and black people can make mulatto babies?

[00:26:38]Obviously, because we're the we're the same species. We just have different pigmentations. But I'm telling you, >> so we were created completely separately, but we're the same species.

[00:26:49]You know, if evolution were true, white people and black people would also be able to breed together.

[00:26:55]>> I'm sorry.

[00:26:56]>> If evolution were true, white people and black people would still be able to make babies together. Yeah, but we or you guys.

[00:27:05]>> So far, there's no evidence that supports your claim and doesn't support my claim.

[00:27:11]>> No, cuz you still you you you use language as an analogy, but you technically didn't explain the actual question, which was how did one species completely evolve to another?

[00:27:21]>> Changes in DNA. I explained it three or four times.

[00:27:25]Why did the aliens aliens wait DNA to chimpanzees? That's almost the same as ours.

[00:27:33]>> There are certain changes that are literally impossible to make. How did those changes occur? And what And what >> Well, if they're impossible, then the aliens didn't do it because it's impossible.

[00:27:44]>> What? Okay. But what outside for? No.

[00:27:46]Can we can we not talk about the aliens?

[00:27:48]I want to stick >> I would gladly not talk about aliens.

[00:27:51]Yeah.

[00:27:51]>> Okay. I want to stick to evolution. Um, there are certain changes that are literally impossible because >> at least we can see >> that humans and monkeys cannot sexually reproduce.

[00:28:06]>> Of course not. What makes you think that one day a monkey gave birth to a human?

[00:28:12]What makes you think that?

[00:28:14]>> I did not say that.

[00:28:16]>> What makes you think that that's what evolution >> discussing? Are we not discussing that monkeys evolved into people? Is that not the evolution theory?

[00:28:24]>> Of course it is. But that doesn't mean that one day a monkey [ __ ] the world's first human and made a monkey human hybrid that was somehow just a human and not even a monkey.

[00:28:36]>> I said that did not happen. But there are certain changes.

[00:28:39]>> The way you present this means that that's what you think people that believe in evolution think. You don't understand the thing you're criticizing.

[00:28:49]>> I do. then you wouldn't be asking these questions. When organisms reproduce, they pass on their DNA. Correct?

[00:28:58]>> Yes.

[00:28:59]>> The DNA is different a tiny bit every single time organisms reproduce, right?

[00:29:08]>> Ask that question again. I'm sorry. I was not listening.

[00:29:10]>> Every time organisms reproduce, the DNA they pass on changes a tiny bit. Right.

[00:29:15]>> I'm not sure the DNA. I'm pretty sure it's the RNA.

[00:29:18]>> No, it's DNA.

[00:29:21]Okay.

[00:29:25]>> Because yes, okay, we can do that.

[00:29:27]>> Okay. Well, what happens when that process has been going on for billions of years? If you change the DNA over the course of billions of years, why the hell would you think that the organisms that are made with that DNA would never change? It makes zero logical sense at all. We have a complete explanation of the pathway for how evolution happens.

[00:29:53]Changes in DNA over time.

[00:29:57]>> Yes. But there are specific changes between these two different species that cannot naturally occur. This is not >> like what melanin? They have melanin. So do we. It didn't even change. We just have different amounts of it.

[00:30:15]If a black panther and a regular panther can exist, then changes, extreme changes in melanin aren't a problem at all.

[00:30:24]Those are the same species.

[00:30:26]>> Not specifically just melanin because DNA is okay. No, not specifically just melanin. We we can we can we can say that that changes, but the DNA is the permanent blueprint for the changes in genetic material of people.

[00:30:40]>> Yeah. So like >> it can't happen by changing the DNA.

[00:30:44]What's an example?

[00:30:47]>> But okay, monkeys kept reproducing with people until the DNA >> that never happened.

[00:30:56]>> No, not people. Not people. I No, wait.

[00:30:58]Wait. I I misspoke. I misspoke. Monkeys kept reproducing with monkeys until their DNA eventually changed and they formed Neanderthalss. Is that what you're saying? You're skipping like literally millions of years worth of steps. But yeah, that did happen.

[00:31:14]>> Millions of years worth of what steps?

[00:31:16]How? What changed? I >> monkey [ __ ] those steps. The monkeys [ __ ] humans.

[00:31:22]>> They some DNA into the lady monkey. The DNA is a little bit different and millions of accumulated years of that produce different monkeys.

[00:31:31]>> Humans cannot continuously reproduce until we create another species. That is not how that works. Not even.

[00:31:38]>> What makes you think that that's not how that works? Even though, keep in mind, if that were true, then we'd have to change this.

[00:31:45]>> Yes, it is.

[00:31:47]>> This is really easily inductively provable. If that's what did happen, then we'd have to share DNA with all the monkeys.

[00:31:58]>> We do share DNA with all the monkeys.

[00:32:01]>> How does DNA change due to reproduction?

[00:32:03]Let's let's let's let's start there.

[00:32:05]Non-disjunction transllocations single base pair mutations chromosomal fusions.

[00:32:12]You want some more frame shift mutations.

[00:32:16]>> Yes, but these do not eventually.

[00:32:18]>> What do you mean? Yes, but you wanted to know how does this thing happen? Because presumably it doesn't happen. Here's five examples. Yeah, but that doesn't prove anything. No. Yeah, actually it does.

[00:32:31]>> These changes happen in regular everyday people. Yes, but these do not change to form a completely different species.

[00:32:38]>> Of course not. That takes thousands or tens or hundreds of thousands of generations.

[00:32:45]>> Okay, you can keep >> this is just like language. Did one day Latin speakers start saying no. That took thousands of years of small accumulated differences and now you have people going around saying that this is >> not even hard to comprehend.

[00:33:07]>> I'm sorry I was muted. You can keep bringing up the time but what specific changes happen over those course of millions of years that cause >> DNA changes >> completely bit by bit different ways.

[00:33:18]>> That's not how DNA changes how DNA changes. How does DNA change, Mr. I don't know anything about DNA, including how to spell it? Probably >> I'm I'm deoxy ribboucleic acid. But I'm trying to >> That's not how you spell DNA. So >> But that's the official word for scientific word for DNA. But I'm trying to ask you something. What specific changes over the course of millions of years caused monkeys to form a completely different species?

[00:33:44]>> The DNA changed.

[00:33:47]>> But what specific changes? I'm asking you. You'd have to sequence the entire genome of both of them and then look at the parts where it's different. That has been done before.

[00:33:58]>> You would not have to do that because [clears throat] I'm pretty sure science says we are identical to monkeys DNA uh as far as 93%.

[00:34:08]>> Yeah, most of it is the same. That's what evolution says would happen. The thing we're most similar to, we would share the most of our DNA with them.

[00:34:18]things were not all that similar to, we'd share less of our DNA with them.

[00:34:23]And that's exactly the case. There's a perfect correlation.

[00:34:28]>> Guess doesn't have the moves for this hike. What are you talking about? Um, >> what am I?

[00:34:35]>> No, no, I was not talking to you. I was not talking to you.

[00:34:37]>> I know you're reading your notes. Yeah.

[00:34:39]Um yeah, but we would not have to sequence the entire DNA of both species to understand that there's certain changes in these DNA that cannot occur even over millions of years.

[00:34:51]>> Name one change in the DNA that can't happen over millions of years >> cuz you explained a bunch of different changes how DNA changes when people reproduce. Can you can you go over that again?

[00:35:05]>> No.

[00:35:07]>> Can you wait? Why can you can why can't you explain the changes that you just explained?

[00:35:12]>> Because I don't feel like it. I've asked you I've asked you to provide >> an example of something that can't happen by DNA changes and you haven't.

[00:35:22]I've answered every single request of you so far for 35 minutes. You haven't done one thing I've asked. What's one thing that changing the DNA could not possibly have caused in humans?

[00:35:41]>> Okay, let me go.

[00:35:44]>> Let you go as in you're leaving or you're going to think about it?

[00:35:47]>> No, I'm going to I'm I'm going to pull I'm going to pull up the processes. Do you want to wait?

[00:35:56]>> Yeah. Does it look like I have anything better to do?

[00:36:06]>> [music] >> Please not do that. No. Stop. Stop.

[00:36:09]Stop. Turn it off. Turn it off. Please.

[00:36:11]Turn it off. Oh my goodness. [music] [music] All right. I have three ways. Can we turn this off?

[00:36:32]>> I have three ways. Can we turn this off?

[00:36:34]>> It's been off for a while now.

[00:36:37]>> Put on my little article.

[00:36:38]>> Um, we have we have how does DNA change over time? We have recombination, independent assortment, and mutation. I just after I just pulled up my little article, these um these changes even over the course of millions of years do not cause a species to uh to transform into a complete other. I did not type it in the chat GBT David. Thank you.

[00:37:05]>> I went on my little article.

[00:37:07]>> Yeah. From from the Institute of Creation Research or Answers in Genesis or something.

[00:37:14]>> Yeah.

[00:37:18]But no, I just I just explained to you three three ways that DNA changes over time, over the course or over reproduction. But these do not these do not um contribute to a species changing into a completely different other.

[00:37:35]>> Says who?

[00:37:38]>> It says the processes of how these work.

[00:37:40]Recombination, independent assortment, and mutation. Obviously they could because the only difference between humans and chimpanzees for example we have the exact same hereditary molecule.

[00:37:52]It's called DNA, right? I know that you know that. So is it possible to change one thing at a time in the DNA? Yep. By changing >> animal has DNA.

[00:38:04]>> Hold on. By changing one thing at a time in the DNA, could you eventually take a starting genome and transform it into the human genome? Yeah.

[00:38:16]Excuse me. Obviously, you could.

[00:38:19]>> No. Okay. But what specific changes do these happen even over the course of millions of years? No. Even over the course of >> And answered. We we are we are dealing with monkeys reproducing with monkeys.

[00:38:33]Even over the course of the time, you keep bringing up the time. Even over the time, this still does not explain how one species changed into a completely different other.

[00:38:42]>> Yes, it does.

[00:38:43]>> Because all of that does, >> it would happen for different species of animals. Then, >> of course, every species on the planet evolved along their own unique pathway, and the evidence incontrovertibly supports it. If evolution is true, we need to share the most DNA with the animal we're most similar to, which would be the great apes. And we do we should share some DNA with other mammals but not as much as we do with for example lizards. And that's exactly the case. It's a perfect correlation.

[00:39:18]All right. Mutation works when DNA is copied and then it it there is an error in that mutation that forms an entirely new genetic variation of the offspring.

[00:39:29]But this is not an entire Yes. That [clears throat] is true. But this is not >> because nondisjunction doesn't work that way. But what close enough?

[00:39:39]>> Okay. Well, how does nondisjunction work? And we were talking about chromosomes. I was talking about just the DNA being copied in general. But >> nondisjunction is when your cells make sperm and egg. They split your DNA in half. You only give half your DNA uh to your offspring when you reproduce.

[00:39:58]Not every time do your cells split the DNA perfectly in half. That's nonisjunction.

[00:40:04]>> And there is and there is an error. But this does not this introduces a new genetic variation of the offspring, but not an entirely new species.

[00:40:13]>> Of course not. Nobody ever said nobody that believes in evolution thinks that one day an animal gives birth to a completely new species.

[00:40:23]>> Of course it happens. Then why are you saying then why are you using that as a counterargument?

[00:40:29]>> Don't straw man me. And then when it's pointed out that it's a straw man, say, "Of course."

[00:40:35]>> No, I did not.

[00:40:36]>> Actually, keep doing it because it's hilarious. It proves you have no idea what you're talking about.

[00:40:42]>> Because even when the DNA that is copying does not make the exact copying error, this still does not make an entire even over millions of years, this does not create an entirely new species.

[00:40:52]>> Why not?

[00:40:52]>> This does not.

[00:40:53]>> Why not? because it it perfectly would be able to do that >> because able to do that.

[00:41:01]>> Yes. You change one thing at a time and eventually you can turn it into whatever you want. There's no logical problem here at all.

[00:41:09]>> There is.

[00:41:10]>> No, there isn't.

[00:41:13]If you take DNA and you change one thing at a time in it over the course of millions of years, changing one thing at a time, it it it's more it's way more than one thing at a time, but whatever.

[00:41:25]Over the course of millions of years, you change one thing at a time every time, but the changes you made never go away. You're not going to have the same thing at the end. This is completely stupid to think that you would. Of course, you just conceded how the evolutionary process would occur >> because DNA is genetic hereditary instruction passed down. Even when that is even when that is an error, that does not form an entirely new species.

[00:41:53]>> [ __ ] a kid. But >> do you know what you just said? You just unironically said even when a mutation happens, it doesn't turn into a new species. It does not >> unironically just once again said made the argument that evolution teaches that one day an animal turns into another animal magically. Nope.

[00:42:16]>> What What did that just What did you just said just prove >> you you have literally no clue what you're even saying.

[00:42:28]>> You just argued >> Okay. Can you listen? You just argued that what I'm trying to tell you is happening is that when a mommy and a daddy make a baby, the baby turns into a different organism. No, >> you brought up you brought up evolution, but I still was I still was waiting for you to give me another example of a different species that this happened to besides monkeys and people. What What other What other example do you have for this just huge change in DNA over the course of periods of time? every single organism on the planet, every one of them.

[00:43:05]>> Did you know that birds >> even when even when mutation >> quiet did you know that if you compare the DNA of two birds, it's more similar than if you compare the DNA of a bird and a lizard.

[00:43:17]>> Yes, but these birds >> That's evidence of evolution.

[00:43:21]>> That is not.

[00:43:23]>> Yes, it is.

[00:43:24]>> Oh my goodness. Organisms that are not part of the same group can't have more similar DNA than organisms that are part of the same group.

[00:43:34]>> Okay?

[00:43:36]>> Necessarily true in evolution. And every single time we look at the DNA of organisms, that's exactly what we find.

[00:43:46]>> That but that is not this is not the same example though. Yes, it is >> because okay when we go to mutation even when the DNA is copied and it makes a copying error this still is the same genetic instruction from the last the previous uh the previous offspring or the previous >> which is why we have genes that even flies have >> exact you know but that's not the same thing though it's not the same thing >> not the same thing as what >> okay please listen to me >> I am even when Even when the DNA the same thing as what?

[00:44:22]>> Even when the DNA is copied and it makes a copying error, it's still the same basis and the same genetic extruction as the previous the previous whatever.

[00:44:29]>> Of course, which is why every time an organism reproduces, >> listen, listen, listen, listen, >> I am listening. I know your argument better than you do.

[00:44:37]>> Wait, >> what you just told me is the very basic fact that when an organism reproduces, its offspring is the same species as it.

[00:44:48]Duh. You keep insinuating that evolution means that has to not be the case. You keep insinuating that evolution means one day when an organism gives birth, the organism it births is a different species. Nope.

[00:45:07]>> I've told you 10 times already it doesn't work that way. Yes, you are saying that every single time that you go, "Yeah, mutation happens, but even when the mutation happens, it's still the same organism." No [ __ ] Sherlock.

[00:45:21]But when you have tens of millions of accumulated mutations, it's not the same organism.

[00:45:28]>> Yes, it is because it's still the same previous genetic instruction. Yes, it is. And it always will be. This does not change.

[00:45:35]>> Says who? Even even when be it's just due to mutation the process of mutation when then how is it that we have different languages every single time we are talking about >> every shut the [ __ ] up and listen there are thousands of languages how's that possible because every single generation the parents and the kids can talk to each other so how did different languages appear >> this we can we not this is not the same analogy >> I promise it's going to go my way or you can leave. How are there thousands of different languages if in every generation the parents and the kids can talk to each other?

[00:46:15]>> Because in this case or in the in English case which we speak a language a hybrid language of Latin and German. You combine two languages which >> No, we don't.

[00:46:25]>> Yes, we do. We speak >> No, we don't. English is not a hybridization of German and Latin.

[00:46:31]>> Yes, it is. Yes, it is. No, it isn't.

[00:46:33]Yes, it is. Yes, it is. What is it?

[00:46:35]It's from a protogerermanic language that changed over time. English has Germanic and lat about a about 30% of English has Latin roots in it. Uh like when I when I say you're a pseudo intellectual, those are Latin roots. But it's not the case that people that say gutentog and people that say carped one day started getting together and started saying carpettog. That's not what [ __ ] English is, you idiot.

[00:47:06]>> Okay, you can keep using language to prove my point wrong, but we're still going off topic of evolution, >> kid. You literally just don't know how to think about anything abstractly. You can't even >> try as hard as you can. You can't tell.

[00:47:23]You couldn't tell us how languages change over time. You thought it was a hybridization process. When English came onto the scene, nobody had been speaking Latin for millennia.

[00:47:34]>> We are talking about evolution here, man. Why are we >> Yeah, we're talking about how languages evolve cuz it's directly analogous to how organisms evolve.

[00:47:43]>> No, it is not.

[00:47:44]>> Yes. Yes, it is.

[00:47:48]>> How language, >> how did the thousands of languages that we see today happen?

[00:47:54]>> How did that happen?

[00:47:56]bec Latin and German have some of the same characters. But when we are talking about monkeys and humans, >> monkeys and humans have some of the same DNA. Congratulations. You just proved my point.

[00:48:09]>> Yes, I did not. Now, let me Now, let me explain.

[00:48:12]>> Yes, I did not.

[00:48:13]>> But you're okay.

[00:48:14]>> That's the you are trying.

[00:48:17]>> That's the best thing you've said all day.

[00:48:19]>> But you have been saying over the >> Yes, I did not. [laughter] >> Wait, let me explain. Let me explain.

[00:48:24]You have been let me. You have been saying over the course of millions of years that mutations and genomes change to form a completely different species.

[00:48:32]But I'm telling you this is not but this is not possible because the DNA is copied and even when it makes a copying error, it's still the same. It's still the same base instruction from the previous parent.

[00:48:44]>> No [ __ ] Every single time people spoke to each other, >> they spoke pretty much exactly the same words. And yet and yet a thousand years ago nobody spoke modern English. So how did modern English appear?

[00:49:00]>> Because the tiny changes accumulate over time. When you accumulate tiny genetic changes over time, that means after a million years, you have millions of changes in the DNA.

[00:49:14]>> When you take the original DNA and you change it millions of times, it can't stay the same organism. But this is not the original DNA we're talking about.

[00:49:24]That's not how mutation works. The entire DNA does not change.

[00:49:26]>> How does mutation work?

[00:49:28]>> Mutation. I just I'm trying to explain it to you.

[00:49:31]>> Any cuz when DNA is copied the even when the copying even when this copy makes an error, it's still the same base. It's still the same base DNA from the previous parent. This does not change even over the course of millions of years. So explain that.

[00:49:46]>> Yeah, actually it does. And we know it does because if you look at the DNA of organisms, >> it's exactly like that.

[00:49:54]>> Okay, I'll call myself. Thanks.

[00:49:57]>> I'm going to use pretty I'm going to use visual cues. And if you don't get it after this, then there's literally nothing we can possibly do >> cuz you're using you're using DNA in in a wrong format. And this is not even or how not this is not even how mut >> buddy, we went over this. You can't even spell DNA. So don't tell me that I'm doing this wrong.

[00:50:19]I have a degree. You can spell deoxy.

[00:50:21]>> DNA is spelled D NA. So once again, thank you for proving that you can't even spell DNA.

[00:50:30]>> That's not what Okay, >> that's literally how you spell DNA.

[00:50:33]>> You can spell deoxyrial nucleic acid.

[00:50:36]No, you >> I said spell DNA. DNA is spelled the letter D, the letter N, the letter A.

[00:50:42]Thank you.

[00:50:43]>> Yes, I can spell that. Were you trying to make a joke?

[00:50:45]>> Well, I Five times I asked you to and you didn't do it. No, it wasn't five times.

[00:50:49]>> What? I can obviously spell DNA. This is not the point we're trying to make. Come on now. Let's get it.

[00:50:55]>> Okay. Come on.

[00:50:56]>> Can you see these letters?

[00:50:58]>> Come on. Yes.

[00:50:59]>> Okay.

[00:51:00]>> Okay. You are You are still using language, but this is not >> No, I'm not. Okay. I just copied all of the letters from above and then mutated one of them. Do you see?

[00:51:13]But this is still No, no, no, no. Cuz that's >> So what I did was I took the original and made a copy of it. One thing changed. Do you understand?

[00:51:24]>> But that is not the that is not the process of DNA though because >> the DNA is copied but it's not copied perfectly.

[00:51:32]>> Yes. That and this is basic but that base still stays even when the DNA copy is is error. But that base instruction instruction from the parent still stays.

[00:51:43]This is not a good analogy.

[00:51:44]>> Yes, it is. I don't know what makes you This is literally exactly how it happens.

[00:51:50]>> You take the original, you make a copy of it. The copy isn't perfect.

[00:51:57]This is a perfect analogy. I don't know.

[00:51:59]You're just being I don't know what you're doing now. Okay. So, I just copied the DNA and made one change to it. That's exactly what happens when the DNA is copied. I'm going to do it again.

[00:52:13]There. I just did it again. Did I take the original and then copy it and then a small change happened?

[00:52:21]>> I'm I'm telling you this is still now the same analogy, man.

[00:52:24]>> Yes, it is.

[00:52:25]>> I do.

[00:52:27]>> Okay. I just did it again. Am I Every single time I'm taking the Well, I'm not taking the original because I don't know if you know this, but when your parents gave birth to you, they didn't take your grandparents' DNA. They took their DNA.

[00:52:42]So, I'm not taking the original. I'm taking the previous one and I'm going to make a copy of it every single time. But I'm only going to change one thing at a time. Every single time I do this, I'm only changing one thing. Now, do you see how this is starting to become more and more different every single time I change it?

[00:53:08]But this is not how mutation works though.

[00:53:10]>> It's literally how mutation works.

[00:53:13]>> It's not >> in fact mutation it. So the only sense in which this is not how mutation occurs is that mutation's actually more dramatic than this. Now I have a question for you is on the top line I HAVE NO just kidding. I have ah on the top line. On the bottom line, I have ah tutt.

[00:53:42]Are those the same thing?

[00:53:44]>> No, they're not.

[00:53:45]>> Oh, how did I get ah tutt from ah how did I do that? By mutating one tiny thing at a time.

[00:54:01]Your line is yes.

[00:54:03]>> I'm sorry. Wait, I was not paying attention. I'm sorry. I was reading. Go ahead.

[00:54:06]>> How did I get aha d from the original? Uh, how did that happen?

[00:54:15]>> The letters changed over time.

[00:54:18]>> Microscopic amounts of changes each time. Right.

[00:54:22]>> Yes.

[00:54:23]>> Welcome to evolution. That's how it happens.

[00:54:25]>> But Oh, [snorts] no. Cuz that's >> No, there's no but. There's no no. It's over for you, kid. Any final words?

[00:54:33]>> Okay. Uh, I'll go or >> Yes, you will. Get a free book, two free audio books, and add free videos by becoming a Patreon member.

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