Why Is Everyone Suddenly Hating Robert Irwin?

[00:00:00]Is Robert Irwin fake?

[00:00:02]>> We'll see. Hey, I don't want to reveal anything too early.

[00:00:05]>> Under all that khaki or khaki, however you want to say it, uh, behind that smile and the never ending positivity, is Robert Irwin, Australia's favorite son, a fake ass [ __ ] We investigate.

[00:00:19]>> Fake ass [ __ ] >> That'll get the youth in, right? Saying fake ass [ __ ] >> You just kicked him all away by saying that'll get the youth in, right?

[00:00:28]>> Sure. We lost him. I got him with fake ass [ __ ] and then we lost him. Uh Robert Irwin, if you don't know, is the son of Steve and Terry Irwin uh and until recently was Australia's favorite son. But >> now the online chatter has noticed um a bit of a shift. There's a bit of a shift. And the question is, is Robert Irwin fake? Is everything about him fake?

[00:00:54]>> And I thought I'll speak to my friend about this because she might have some feelings. Okay.

[00:00:59]>> And I want to know yours in the comment as well. In the comments as well. If you don't know Robert Irwin, uh he's a conservationist just like his dad uh was. Uh his dad passed away from um stingray into his chest. Um he was very very famous. Uh he was called the crocodile hunter.

[00:01:20]And they have a a zoo called the Australia Zoo. Now for a >> beautiful zoo.

[00:01:25]>> Stunning. So, um I have never been, but all the stuff I've seen online looks lovely. Now, uh >> it's huge.

[00:01:32]>> The family as a whole have been very very talked about >> um for many, many years. And obviously, they got more famous with how tragically they lost Steve.

[00:01:43]>> They're like Australia's royal couple really. They're Australia's royal couple and then royal family. And like when the kids were born, it was >> huge >> documented. And there's like beautiful videos of Steve Irwin speaking about being a father and how how much it matters to him and that was it for him.

[00:02:04]Like it was animals and it was Terry and being a dad >> and he had a lot of enthusiasm but also as Australians we didn't embrace him first. He was embraced widely by America first. And we're gonna talk about >> Robert Irwin and the turning of the tides because of what's been announced recently and why people might be turning on him. And I just want to figure out if it's just us being Aussies. Oh, Poppy.

[00:02:31]>> Or is it because maybe we think the mask has slipped a little bit and we just don't buy the [ __ ] that's been going for such a long time. So, if you don't know, um, uh, Robert Irwin, even though he's a conservationist and works at the zoo, uh, which he would own with his family, um, he's been hosting, um, I must get me out of here Australia. Oh, RIP. It's gone to God. Um, like so many other things from Channel 10.

[00:02:57]>> And, um, he modeled. He really broke the internet when he started modeling underwear. Was it for Bonds?

[00:03:03]>> He did. He He's way too young for me.

[00:03:07]So, I can't look at him and be like, "Wow, what a slice." But of a different age, me, what a slice.

[00:03:14]>> Oh, yeah. You definitely would have.

[00:03:15]Congrats to him. Um, and that's a whole other thing online when I was doing research on Robert Irwin today, the older women who say things about him and then other people who are like, "I're 40 so just like tone it down." And some people and people like, "It doesn't matter. Age doesn't matter. He's legal."

[00:03:31]Um, and he's also >> I feel like he's going to find me.

[00:03:34]>> He's also featured a lot on US talk shows like Jimmy Fallon. Uh, but his whole career really took a jump when he won season 34 of Dancing with the Stars USA. So, uh, with just like a a few rips of his shirt.

[00:03:51]There's like a there's like a there's like a part where he rips his shirt open in one of the dances and it broke the internet a little bit. Um, again, you know, there's people maybe a little bit too old for him going, I'd love myself a bit of Robert. Um, and he had >> I'm not saying it. I was being the internet. I was being the internet.

[00:04:14]>> I don't know because do you know why I know so much about Robert Irwin?

[00:04:18]>> Cuz I like Robert.

[00:04:19]>> About probably 5 years ago, you sat me down and you were like, I I love Robert Irwin. But I was like, "What are you talking about?"

[00:04:28]>> No, I think I think I liked that he was like he had a personality, right? And >> Yeah. You liked him on Jimmy Fallon.

[00:04:35]>> Yeah. And I thought he had a personality and he was like spreading the good word of what Australians are. And he's very Australian. I know his mom's American, but he is like very very Australian. And he also seems like his dad a lot, which I guess is genetics, but also like growing up around a lot of footage of your dad, >> he would, you know, and like kind of idolizing him, you would pick it up.

[00:04:55]>> You would pick it up.

[00:04:56]>> So he won Dancing with the Stars US, and that was only last year. Now, a lot has happened since, >> including he's going to host Australia's Night of Nights, the Lois.

[00:05:08]>> Oh yes, the Lois. I saw this.

[00:05:11]>> Did you also see that? The Hollywood Reporter Australia, which side note, why do we have the Hollywood Reporter Australia? That's like a someone has >> sense.

[00:05:21]>> Someone has like licensed the Hollywood Reporter name, tagged Australia on it, and then they did exclusive Patrick Bremel hosting the Lois, which was entirely wrong cuz a few hours later it was announced by the Lois that Robert Irwin was hosting. So, they've only just launched they've only just launched the Hollywood Reporter Australia, which makes no sense. Hollywood Reporter Australia. Hollywood's not here.

[00:05:46]>> It's not It's not here, guys. That makes no sense.

[00:05:49]>> No.

[00:05:50]>> Um, it was only a few hours later that Robert Irwin was announced. Um, and he is going to be the youngest host of the Lois ever. Now, the Lois, >> how old is he now?

[00:06:02]>> God, that's a really good question. I wish I looked >> 22.

[00:06:04]>> I think he's 22 or 26. I think he's only 22 in my head. He's only uh I def I think it's 22 cuz I saw that number today and I was like that feels he's 22 December 1st 2000 2003 >> it took the breath right out of you I hate that I work with people who were born in 2002 2003 and I'm like I don't I can't figure you out. I don't know >> I don't know anything about you cuz you can't I was I >> I just don't know. you're so young.

[00:06:38]>> Now, I don't know if how many people have put this together, but there there's a uh a website called TV tonight. It's an industry website, and they talk about everything that's happening in Australian TV, but also like overseas as well, but it's Australian based. It's by a guy called David Knox. He's a TV journalist. And he does this April Fool's thing every year, and it's always really good. It's a really good like this show is incorporating this, this person's going to host this. And for April this year, this is way before it was ever announced in the Lois, he put up >> did it >> he put up this um and it was talking about how it had a photo of Robert Irwin and it said the Lois were moving to YouTube and >> I think I remember seeing this. Many people fell for it and it had a photo of uh Robert um and obviously insinuating that he was the host and that would make sense if it was moving to YouTube but now he's act it's not going to be on YouTube by the way but now he's actually the host.

[00:07:41]>> Well, >> and that goes to show that I think maybe an executive from Channel 7 just saw that and thought I guess we could like I guess we could. So, previous years Sam Pang, um, if you don't know him, if you're an international whackadoo and you don't understand him, he's a comedian. Uh, he's a radio host. Um, he's been he's also an actor now. Uh, he's got his own TV show and, uh, he's been great the last couple years. He's actually been really great.

[00:08:13]>> And, um, the writing has been really strong. And now we're pushing in a different direction and it's making people question Robert Irwin generally. And I don't know if this is just critics are growing restless, you know, the online critics are growing restless uh and everybody just wants to, you know, say how they feel about this specific topic of him hosting the Lokis or is it just a very Australian thing?

[00:08:40]This guy's gotten too tall. He's doing too much and we're going to knock him down. Tall puppy syndrome. Thoughts?

[00:08:50]>> So people are So people think Well, where does the fakeness come in? What where what's the theory that he's a fake?

[00:08:58]>> So the theory is that he's too he's too nice. He's too overly enthusiastic about everything. And I think the discourse I tried to sort of lead it back to something and I found an article on a Substack by Anna Keenan and I thought I'd I'd read a little bit for you.

[00:09:21]>> So the sub the Substack um this piece is titled The Problem with Robert Irwin.

[00:09:26]Great start.

[00:09:28]>> Really great start.

[00:09:29]>> She doesn't say fake ass [ __ ] You know that's that was my addition to the start of this video. But it points out that people are not perfect. And it seems that we idolize Robert Irwin and the Irwin family because of the tragedy that they've had to overcome. But she kind of goes on to say that we shouldn't give him a free pass or the family a free pass when they keep animals captive.

[00:09:50]They profit off them. Um, and then she kind of gets a little bit distracted in the article for me when she talks about the royal family, which apparently he's close with. And that's a big no no now because they're, you know, known racists and blah blah blah. Basically, we're putting Yeah. Irwin up on a pedestal.

[00:10:08]>> Um, kind of like Brooklyn Beckham because of how famous his dad is.

[00:10:12]>> Yeah. Okay. All right.

[00:10:16]Okay.

[00:10:18]Here's my thoughts.

[00:10:21]>> Wow. We're getting to it.

[00:10:23]>> Terry Owen is Chris Jenner. She's a mama jar.

[00:10:27]>> Oh, yeah. She's >> She always has been.

[00:10:32]>> I just don't think people connect those two things enough when it comes to Robert Irwin.

[00:10:39]There have been articles before that have insinuated this that I've read because I remember he broke up with a girl and everyone was like, "Oh my god, how devastating."

[00:10:49]>> And then there was an article that insinuated that Terry asked them to break up because she wasn't happy with the relationship or whatever. Now that I don't know if it's true.

[00:10:58]>> I feel like I read the same article and him and his mom were like going on holidays together.

[00:11:02]>> He's not out of her sight.

[00:11:04]>> So whereas Bindy, she's gone on, she's gotten married and had a kid and stuff and she kind of does her own thing and she now she she's gone and married an American man named Chandler. I mean be more American. and he's like almost taken on Terry's role in what was um Steve's life, >> right?

[00:11:26]>> So like in that relationship, Bindy is the Steve and then Chandler is the Terry and they're very much in the zoo world and not like Bindy does some things publicly but not as much as Robert.

[00:11:40]They've >> not anymore since she became a mom. I think she kind of backed off a little bit and Robert's really being pushed as the star of the family. He is the Kim Kardashian.

[00:11:49]>> Yeah. So, I like if we're just going to compare this to something, I would just compare it to Chris and Kim and Terry has seen a cash cow. Moo.

[00:12:03]And she has just taken that and run with it. And if if the Lois knocks on Terry's door and says, "We want Robert." Terry's going to go to Robert and say, "Do this for the money, for the exposure." Like, even if you're not going to be good at it, even if you're not a comedian, you're not a host. Well, he's kind of a host now. I get I didn't watch any of that. I'm a celeb. I don't know how he does. Does he do well?

[00:12:26]>> He's fine. He's fine. He's very inoffensive.

[00:12:28]>> So, he'll be inoffensive at the Lois.

[00:12:30]And that's the other thing. Like, everyone's so scared of offending people now when it comes to award shows. You need to have a crack though. You know what I mean? Like you need to have a crack.

[00:12:39]>> You do. You do. But the Lois aren't going to take any risks.

[00:12:45]>> Well, I guess Sam Pang has taken some risks over the years and cracked some jokes that have gotten some headlines.

[00:12:50]So, I think um >> I think I think look the lo and there's a lot of people with their comments and I'm going to get to some of them in a second about him hosting the Lois and not there's a lot of people who say that they like it, but there is also some negatives. A bit from that substack.

[00:13:03]Actually, I just wanted to read you a an excerpt from it which um you might find interesting and and maybe this is what sort of has I don't know stoked those flames of this family is kind of fake and why are we buying into this and we don't question them, we pop them on the pedestal. Um in this Substack uh she wrote to me Robert Irwin is just another guy telling someone he loves them while keeping them caged up. Only in his case that someone is more reptilian than human. He's just another guy telling us what he thinks we want to hear while benefiting directly from the issues that plague our world and associating with others uh just like him. People who benefit greatly from the world's atrocities. Is that really the type of guy you want to idolize and put on a pedestal? Haven't we had enough of men like that? the ones that get a pat on the back for being a great guy while still uh committing uh defending and directly benefiting from relationships with racist colonizers and keeping their peers in captivity. I don't know about you, but if this is the best we've got, I am seriously concerned for the future of mankind.

[00:14:08]>> When did they post this?

[00:14:09]>> This was back in April.

[00:14:11]>> I just I think that this woman is like I this this is a woman writing this, right?

[00:14:17]>> Yeah. And a Keenan. Yep.

[00:14:18]>> So come for Terry. Don't come for a 22 year old boy who's been brought up in this world.

[00:14:26]>> Come for Terry. Like you like that is not a fair conclusion to come through come to with a young guy whose brain isn't even fully formed. Yeah.

[00:14:38]>> Who has had no other option in the world but to be raised in the spotlight. He didn't choose to be born into that family and he did not choose to stay in the spotlight. Terry kept him in the spotlight after the death of their father. And I I'm I love Terry. I think she's I I think she's done a great job with those kids. Like, look at those kids. They're caring for animals.

[00:15:01]They're they're raising kids of their own. Like, but come for Terry if you're coming for someone. You can't you cannot just decide that you hate men so much that Robert is the only bad one in this scenario. Like this to me just seems like she's just trying to find another man to hate.

[00:15:21]>> Yeah, I look I think it's a comment the whole article and I'll link it below in the description if you want to have a read of it. I think the comment does sort of reflect the family. But yeah, Robert is singled out um for this and I think >> the fact that she said he's another man who is you know doing X Y and Zed. Sure.

[00:15:39]But what are you doing for the environment? What are you doing for conservationalism? I think the I think her point, and I can't speak for her, but this is what I gathered from the article, was that we're idolizing someone and they're just as bad as everybody else, so why pedestal this person specifically and this family? Um, because is it all about conservation?

[00:16:07]Now, um there's more on that in a second because the conservation thing I think we can maybe question a little bit. Um so, quickly before we get to that, >> there's some rumors going around that he could be James Bond. That's Let's just put that to bed. That's not happening.

[00:16:26]>> That's not going to happen. Everyone needs to calm down. Um he was recently on Masteref and he got paid quite a hefty sum just to appear on that. And this is where a lot of the the Discord online comes from because people were like, "Why is he on everything?" I think it's when you get saturated, people start to turn on you.

[00:16:46]We saw it with um Pedro Pascal. You know what I mean? Like he worked so hard for so many years, couldn't get anything, started to get a bunch of jobs, and he got a bunch of jobs and then people were like, "Fuck this guy. I'm done with it."

[00:16:56]>> Um and you know, people were calling him a show pony cringe. uh they would rather pick fluff out of their navl than watch him on uh Master Chef. Um and people also talking about how he will like do anything for the spotlight. He is hosting a version of Dancing with the Stars. It's like called The Next Generation, which they just filmed in Queensland. So, he's hosting that.

[00:17:19]>> And there's also rumors that he's going to be the next Bachelor in the US >> and that's why he couldn't commit to the US.

[00:17:29]>> Yeah. and that's why he couldn't commit to doing another season of I'm a Celebrity Australia. So, there's a lot of stuff surrounding him and I fully agree with you that like Terry is this engine. His mom is this engine and she is out there and she is absolutely going for it.

[00:17:47]>> Oh, I'm very excited, mate. Always make time for that. Are you kidding? Like I grew up as as every Aussie does, watching the Lois and and uh my my dad had a lot to do with the Loies, you a couple of uh viral moments with a venomous snake. So, I think it's it's only fair. I'm very excited, mate.

[00:18:04]Really, really excited. And and I want to bring a little bit of that uh that that passion and Irwin energy to the loies. You know, I got to work in khaki somehow, mate. Maybe a car key tuxedo.

[00:18:15]>> Can you see?

[00:18:16]>> No, >> you can't. You don't You don't get the cringy.

[00:18:20]>> You don't get the like it feels not real.

[00:18:24]>> He feels like his dad. And did we do this to his dad?

[00:18:27]>> Yeah, people did. Australians did.

[00:18:29]Australians really >> tall poppy. It's once again tall poppy.

[00:18:34]Like to me that is just Aussies to begin with. Steve is like doing all this. He's a showman with his animals and his car key. And Aussies are going, "Oh, what a [ __ ] cringy showman. Like get over yourself, whatever." And then eventually they're all about him. And then when he dies, it's like a national tragedy. And like I remember sitting on the bus talking to people about Steve dying. And I barely knew anything about but I knew him. You know what I mean?

[00:19:06]>> Yeah.

[00:19:07]>> I just I don't see it as cringey. Like he could just be a nice kid. And I think people are not used to >> nice kids. That's so interesting you say that cuz there was another article I read that said that we're just not used to nice people.

[00:19:22]Um, >> I think so. Like I think we're at a point in this weird world where people are just kind of angry and because he's not >> and he could he could look some of it might be fake. You know what? There probably is a part of him where he's just like, "Oh god, I got to go on the Today Show again and I'm in my car keys again." And he's probably a little bit like rolling his eyes about it. But at the end of the day, he also knows his bread and butter.

[00:19:54]>> And he knows that part of the part of the bread and butter is that he puts a smile on and he's in a good mood. And maybe 95% of the time he is like that >> so he keeps it up for the cameras.

[00:20:07]>> Maybe it's also a lack of vulnerability.

[00:20:11]You know what I mean? Like sometimes you want to see someone struggle. And I know this is awful. This is an awful thing, but this is human, right? This is very, very human. when we see someone go through something and then you go, "Fuck, okay, they really had to go through that and they've had a really honest chat about it." Um, >> then you feel more like they're a real person and not this caricature of an Australian who's an eco warrior. So, some of the comments I won't even read the ones from the Master Chef episode because [ __ ] me, people aren't people aren't doing well.

[00:20:50]>> People are and this is to, you know, to what you said like is it just that we are not like to that article, is it just that we're not used to seeing nice people? We are not used to seeing nice people because we're all using our phones and internet so much to be connected to people that that's what we're used to these horrible comments.

[00:21:10]>> So, uh, a couple of comments in regards to him hosting the Lois. Someone said, "I can't understand going for a younger I can understand going for a younger host, but for me, he is like Vegemite.

[00:21:19]You either love him or hate him. They could have found someone more neutral."

[00:21:23]I disagree. I think he's as neutral as they [ __ ] come. I really think that like I think the problem is maybe he is too neutral. Uh another comment says this all feels like a Gen Zed Daryl Summers. That's not a good thing. Um if you don't know Daryl Summers, he was the host of Hey Saturday for many many years and a bunch of other shows. And um he's also people thought he was fake for a lot of years and there was like rumors of him being uh kind of a mean guy >> behind the scenes that I heard from the old Channel 9 crew. Um, so who knows what's real there. Um, we already know what we're going to get now. A safe, predictable, and dare I say boring host.

[00:22:05]Maybe that's what seven want, but it doesn't make for good TV. And this one really has a crack at it. This is truly one of the worst decisions in Loi's history. Uh, Loy's history in television history for that matter. What an absolute disgraceful decision. The Lois is not just another simple hosting job.

[00:22:21]If it was, Robert would be more than capable, I'm sure. But as everyone knows, award shows are hosted by comedians usually with an acid tongue and sharp comedic wit with Robert having none. After rejuvenation and hard work done by Sam Pang, they will take 15 steps backwards. What a Nothing safe beige host who doesn't know or have the skills for an opening monologue. Not that any of this is Robert's fault, but the seven execs who offered it to him, I'm beside myself with complete disbelief. And the question I have is, are Aussies are we just [ __ ] now?

[00:22:55]Are we not very nice? I saw a video, I think it might have been like maybe a year or two ago, and they said, "Guys, Aussies are rude and they're not very nice." And there was all this discord online. EVERYONE WAS LIKE, "NO, WE'RE NICE. WE'RE FRIENDLY." UM, and maybe we're not now. Maybe we are [ __ ] >> No, I don't I don't think I I don't think Australians are friendly. I don't think Australians are friendly at all.

[00:23:19]really absolutely >> I'm friendly to people when they talk to me on the street though and I'm not necessarily known as a friendly person.

[00:23:26]>> No, I don't think it's about that as much as it is like the perception when it because we're so known for tall puppy syndrome and I think it makes us really like come across as unfriendly like that person saying that they're in complete disorder that they've they've cast him.

[00:23:45]What's going on in your life? either absolutely nothing is going on in your life and so now you're in complete disbelief over someone getting a job that you probably think you're more qualified for or you have something so deep going on in your life that you're taking on this as part of your personality. Like it's just it's it's like when we were in radio, right? And no one was ever just like happy for you to get a job.

[00:24:15]>> Oh no. always had something to say like, "Oh, I" and I get it because I used to be like that and I had to work on my insecurities when it came to >> being an announcer or being a woman or being a this or that or whatever. Like, you got to work through your [ __ ] And so, until you work through your [ __ ] you can't just be happy for someone. But like, when we would get a job, the there were people within our industry who were like, "They're not qualified or like they're [ __ ] They're [ __ ] at that.

[00:24:45]they're bad so they shouldn't get it.

[00:24:47]And it's like >> well no you just don't like our style and it can be just that >> but you it's Australians are just so we can't let anyone it's like online right I see all these influencers like create content creators on Instagram who are American who just go for it. They just go for it. They love it. they're making content and they're, you know, and then they'll team up with a different content creator in America and they'll do a video together and they'll tag each other and that's like a good big thing.

[00:25:24]Australian content creators very rarely do that because they're so scared of the other content creator being more popular than them. So, we do not see that as much in Australian content creation because Australian content creators are so scared of each other beating the other one out.

[00:25:44]>> I'm not see Have you noticed that?

[00:25:46]>> Yeah. I cuz obviously I've thought about like doing stuff with people for years, but you know what I'm scared of? People being not very nice.

[00:25:54]I I'm genuinely scared of people because what is attracted to the the you know uh television uh movies um content creation in general uh it attracts personalities that are a bit [ __ ] sometimes and um I have a great track record of um working with those courts um and it's the other way around and so I'm terrified of doing anything but I totally agree with what you're saying that um nobody wants to have someone outshine them or get on a video and and you collabing with someone and have them go, "Oh, this person's way better than that person." Um but that stuff I don't look online comments whatever you know people are going to say whatever they want and >> I think my question around Robert is he says in this today's show interview he says something about the con like everything he does is for conservation right and I don't believe that line I believe that conservation is a huge part of their lives and I think that their family specifically have done so much for conservation but I don't believe that everything you do is conservation driven. Like he says all these jobs that I take >> for conservation. That's like what he says. And I don't believe that. Which then makes me go that's clearly [ __ ] >> So what else are you bullshitting about?

[00:27:22]And that's where you get I get a little bit caught with Robert Irwin and the spin.

[00:27:29]>> I get that cuz it can't all be for conservation. No, >> I think majority is and I think everything that he does gives him another chance to spru the conservation thing on telly, you know, on the TV shows, on the YouTube, this that, whatever, whatever he happens to be doing.

[00:27:47]>> Um, but like we don't expect other people to tell us what they're doing all of their things for either.

[00:28:01]Oh, no, no, no, no, no, not at all.

[00:28:03]Like, but but I but the difference is >> there's other hosts.

[00:28:07]>> Yeah. The difference is I don't think >> there's other hosts and we're not asking Sam Pang, what are you doing this for?

[00:28:12]>> No, no, no. Exactly.

[00:28:12]>> We're not asking.

[00:28:14]>> No, I think the difference is is that he's not going into it going these are the reasons I do all these things for.

[00:28:21]Robert's served that like he's it's like it's kind of a veil of like hiding behind something of like, well, you can't come for me for anything cuz I'm doing it all for good. And that can feel a little bit like >> that's probably a defense mechanism for him because of the hatred that you get.

[00:28:37]Like it might be a defense mechanism to be like I'm doing this because of the conservation because he's at the end of the day this is a this is a child star.

[00:28:46]So we have to remember child stars their brains are not forming in the same way that regular kids are. They're forming in a completely different way. and he's been a child star and we have to like compare him to a Lindsay Lohan or a freaking Amanda Bines or something and we don't know what this kid is dealing with behind closed doors with Terry with his sister like with relationships >> and all of that. And I just think like I don't know. I don't think it's enough for me to go he's faking it. Like I don't think what I've seen of him is enough for me to go he's faking it all.

[00:29:22]I think I more look at it and I'm like, I hope he's okay because like he isn't saying no to anything. Yes.

[00:29:29]>> And you don't want to see this poor kid get burnt out or, you know, if he if he isn't dating enough, he's not figuring out anything about himself or if he isn't spending enough time with his friends, he's not getting that social aspect. And yeah, to me, none of it is enough to make me go off him. And I think like people are questioning the wrong parts of him.

[00:29:53]>> My last lady >> thought is I look always been a stand of Robert Owen.

[00:30:02]I think he does great work. And I think for someone who has been in the spotlight since literally his dad hold him held him near a crocodile um or his birth his birth that was like he had to you know that was a part of one of the episodes of the crocodile hunter. Um, crocodile hunter. God, he couldn't sound more Aussie. The creek came out there.

[00:30:23]>> That's the crocodile hunter as I didn't.

[00:30:27]There wasn't a tea in that. I didn't hit the tea at all.

[00:30:31]>> No, there was a D, I reckon.

[00:30:33]>> Oh, yeah. H. Oh, [ __ ] mate. That's bad.

[00:30:36]Um, but you know what would make me really connect with Robert Owen.

[00:30:41]>> And I'm not saying he has to go full prince. No. No. God, that'd be great though. would great for conservation. Um um I think the thing that would make me really connect with him is if there was just a little moment of him just going, "Oh god." Like if someone asked him a dumb question on a red carpet or if someone like TMZ bowled him up for something and he just went, "Oh, [ __ ] off." If he did that, if he did that and the and just a little bit of just a little bit of which we know is in all of us. It's in all of us.

[00:31:21]>> I know it's in Terry. I know it's in Bindy.

[00:31:22]>> Big time in me.

[00:31:23]>> And you're big time in me, too. And I just want him to be like, >> that's a dumb question. That's a really dumb question. I don't want to be offensive or anything, but it's a dumb like if he really had just a little bit of the see you next Tuesday come out at him. Oh god. I'd really love it because that's I think that's what is missing for the people see too much of the polished side and not enough of the the real.

[00:31:50]>> And for Steve for all of his polished we got to see like a lot of real.

[00:31:57]>> And there would be a lot of like >> he he [ __ ] up. He made mistakes. He's done interviews where he talked about the mistakes that he's made. And I think just a little bit more of that real cuz at 22 years of age he's just too perfect.

[00:32:14]>> But he doesn't this is but that's the thing like I don't know that he's had any time to [ __ ] up. Like that's the >> No, but like even if he's done even if he's done with like cuz think of the amount of interviews he does there's no [ __ ] coming out about him. There's nothing negative coming out about him.

[00:32:31]There's like it's crazy to me that he is on point all the time doing the best all the time >> because he hasn't had a chance to like piss in a bucket in a corner like Justin Bieber cuz he's had no downtime. Like we we need that moment from him for sure.

[00:32:48]But like he doesn't have time. Like he's he doesn't have time to go out clubbing or doing the crazy [ __ ] where we do see the child stars [ __ ] up and then we go, "Oh, they're a human just like us."

[00:33:01]>> But even if it was on a podcast, he has the >> I don't even need I don't even if it was a podcast or an interview where he was just like, >> "Fuck, I'm so [ __ ] tired. Like no complaints about how much work I've got.

[00:33:12]I'm all blessed, but [ __ ] me, it's a lot." If there was just like a little bit of the veil drop for a second, >> Robert, come on this podcast. Come on, Bobby. Come on, mate. Like, just come on. We just want to talk to you about how tired you must be. You've got to be.

[00:33:28]>> You're a young whippers snapper, but >> I know I saw the bags under his eyes on the Today's Show Cross and I was like, >> you're working. You're really working hard, mate. You're really working hard.

[00:33:39]Anyway, >> as always, love to know your thoughts.

[00:33:41]Specifically, if you're an international wackadoo and an Australian wackadoo, I want to know your thoughts on this whole tall poppy thing. Cuz I thought maybe >> if you're I thought maybe >> if you're an international wackadoo, tell us if you actually understood crocodile hana.

[00:33:57]>> No, they got it. They got it. Because tall puppy syndrome to me, I thought we were growing out of it as the world became a little bit more global and it seems like maybe not here.

[00:34:09]I don't think we are. I think I think the UK might have grown out of it a little bit more than us because the UK were known for it as well, >> but I don't I don't know. I think it's still there. I think it's just still bubbling under the surface. The tall tall poppy.

[00:34:24]>> We want to know. Let us know in the comments. And there's plenty more for you whackadoos right in front of you to keep watching. And if you want to join our Discord and chat with us further about old Bobby Irwin, oh, so old at 22 years of age, you can. You can chat. The link will be in the comments below and also in the description.