TainoFunHouse VideoScope is live to discuss the traditional Taino afterlife.

[00:00:00]right here at the Tino Fun House. I'm here with my uh beautiful birds right there. They're just chilling. That's Casik with Mari and Nini.

[00:00:11]So, they're just chilling with me today.

[00:00:13]I'm just hanging. And today we have a very very important topic I want to share because a lot of people recently have been asking me this question about uh God and and judgment day and the end of the world.

[00:00:30]And there's a lot of Christian folks that I know who are both Catholic and evangelical and so on. They they often try to tell me about um the topic of salvation like when your soul is saved and you go to heaven and so on. And I have a lot of Christian friends, a lot of Catholic friends and sometimes we we talk about this issue. So today I want to I want to address this question of what happens to a a non-Christian Tino?

[00:01:06]What happens to their spirit? What happens to their soul?

[00:01:10]So uh I've been getting a lot of these questions both through email and people that I uh speak to that I personally know. And I don't want to offend anyone. Any Christians out there belong to any religion, Orthodox religion, evangelical and so on. I don't want to offend anyone. Please don't take it like that. Just want to share, you know, cuz a lot of people do ask. And many people many Tino folks um who were raised Catholic and also evangelical as well there there's a guilt that they that they they feel sometimes when they go to a dino ceremony or or they start talking about yokahoo and ya you know they sometimes that guilt comes in like they were baptized as Christians should is this like idolatry is is it you know paganism and so on. So I get these questions all the time. Even though people have have walked away from their churches, they they still have a form of guilt.

[00:02:19]So it's not an easy it's not an easy way trying to figure out. So So this is my first attempt. I'm going to see if I get some people to go on air with me. we can we can not debate but we can go back and forth and and honestly share you know now for a lot of people I don't know if you know this for a lot of people who follow me um I used to be a Franciscan frier and I did get my college bachelor's through a seminary here in Queens the dascese of Brooklyn and for many years I studied theology as well I got my masters of the divinity But it was that one moment that I remember it was two moments actually.

[00:03:05]The first one was actually reading well no no let me backtrack. my first major experience that I knew what my what I need to do in life as an indigenous man as an indigenous person um who was feeling like I was the last tyino in the world cuz a lot of people weren't talking about it and then that people that did wanted to talk about it they were a little embarrassed because of family and whatever pressure so so here's the thing when I met up with some folks in uh in New York City who also were acknowledging that in fines time you know it it it was a very uh powerful experience and for those early days I remember we put religion to the side and we just try to enjoy you know tyino culture uh the best way we can you know or we could at the time you know so we we did a lot of um with Dino Nation there was a lot of opportunities to give present presentation. So we had the mayawakan, we had the rattles, we have the dancing and so on. But I remember in my time there, I remember that whole religion thing was was was raised because there were a lot of Catholics within the circle and leadership. So it really caused uh an issue. But I had already left the Franciscans. So I already knew, you know, the the issue not just in the Tyino community or indigenous community.

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[00:07:08]You know, true Tyeno spirituality is basically friendship.

[00:07:14]I just want to mention that. True Tyeno spirituality ancestral is friendships.

[00:07:21]It was always about what I can do for the other person and what that other person going to do to me in a good way. So um that's how you know spiritual spirituality is friendship. If it's difficult for you to have friends or to socialize you know this is why we have tribal tribal ways you know tribal communities and so on. It's really good. I mean, the cyber world is cool because look, we got people from Ohio, Connecticut, United Kingdom. So, it's kind of cool.

[00:07:58]So, I just want to mention a little bit about about what a lot of people have been asking me recently in the past year about religion and Christianity. So, you know, I was privileged enough to learn the Christian theology, the Orthodox style of Roman Catholicism, but it was through them that was I was able to travel to Montana.

[00:08:18]I was being groomed to be a missionary in Montana. And man, when I first met the Crow Nation, I went to a sweat lodge and that just changed my life. That just totally changed my life. It just wasn't the Crow sweat lodge ceremony that changed it. It was it brought me to an original to an original desire, you know, spiritually. I just recognized it. It's it's in our DNA, you know. That's what happens. We activate the DNA and we can go back in time.

[00:08:52]You know, that's how we go back in time to these ceremonies and we can touch our ancestors cuz they're in our blood, man.

[00:08:59]Sorry, I don't believe in both. I'm not a Christian or Satanist.

[00:09:04]All right, that's cool, man. That's good. But a lot of people been asking me this Christian thing. So um you know it was through the crow nation that I I I kind of walked away from the from the Catholic way. You know I was going to be a priest. I was a brother and it that ceremony just jolt to me. Then when I came back home um I had a study in a seminary and I remember reading for the first time bothasas and I started reading about the creation stories. just started yaya and yay and all for the first time in my life and I'm like holy crap where have you been all my life?

[00:09:45]So So it took me a while to to stop explaining to people why I left, why I'm not a priest and so on. It took a while. A lot of people disown me too, you know. They thought I was a joke or or crazy. I went psycho for doing that.

[00:10:04]So, um, and that's good, man. You know, sometimes in in your in your life, you have you, you know, it's different roads, man. Don't be afraid to take that U-turn, you know. So, so what happened was a lot of people are really, they're really scared about this cuz of what some people call the Catholic guilt.

[00:10:23]Sometimes they call the Jewish guilt.

[00:10:25]But but there is there is a a form of guilt like once you've been indoctrinated into a religion like Christianity you know there you know one of the main components of that rel of the Christian religion is that that you know when you die based on your decisions in this world either you're going to go to heaven or hell and hell is where God does not exist.

[00:10:51]So growing up as a child and uh you know growing up in the in that way it's it it's it's a cultural clash when you start looking at an indigenous spirituality like the also our ancestor Tahino who saw death like anyone can go to which is um the place where the spirits go after death and then uh So that's like you know everyone can go every spirit can go you know the opas and as we know in the story some of these opas are mischievous you know but so there is a relationship between the living and the dead cuz the dead are still alive but they turn into bats during the day and then uh or they hide in the caves and then uh and then at night they come out as uh what do you call it as bats and they eat the gu the the guayaba berry. So so much so much ancient traditions it's in our it's in our bloodline you know and it's in our DNA just needs to be activated you know but unfortunately there's pitfalls like guilt and fear that pulls you back. So, I just want to reassure people if you're going to follow the Tyino way.

[00:12:18]One thing, it's about friendships because we're social, we're tribal, you're you're building friendships and sometimes those branches break apart and that's part of the human condition, right? That happens all the time. So, so the key thing is how do you heal within the community? how you stick with it about running away or or totally, you know, going mainstream, you know, and it's happened a lot. I know a lot of tino folks who are who are underground cuz they don't u really do well with the different communities.

[00:12:53]Do you have a job or you influencer? I'm actually a social worker in the state of New York and shunning. I'm used to that people push back what they don't understand.

[00:13:07]Yeah, that's right. They push back. They push back a lot and that happened in my family and so on. Um I remember when I first met Bobby Gonzalez, he wrote a book called The Last Puerto Rican Indian and I and I really related with that. So I felt I was the last one cuz no one around me was talking about it. But and this is like the early 90s. Then 90 92 is very powerful for a lot of people.

[00:13:34]Cool. Talking about friend breaking. I had my best friend date my ex.

[00:13:40]Oh yeah man.

[00:13:45]This is the problem. My best friend.

[00:13:48]Date my ex. Yeah. It's yo, there's something about human beings that some, you know, when it comes to discipline, when it comes to respect and honor, we're willing to throw it out the window.

[00:14:02]And that goes for all of us. In in the Christian faith, they talk about original sin, that you're born into this world with a sinful nature, and this is how you you know, you're baptized and so on. But but we're always constantly in sin. See, that's the Christian way. Now in a tyino way, in an ancient world view, when you look at the stories, there's these different manifestations of the life force of of the ultimate reality.

[00:14:32]So they held on to that. And as much as they got in trouble or or beat up in these stories, it was always, you know, nature. There was always these relationships like the snake and the behe that got beat up and and so on. the snakes came to his help.

[00:14:53]So, so I'm not okay, let me just do a disclaimer. I'm not saying Christians don't have the truth cuz actually the Roman Catholic Church in 1965 did declare in Roman C the Vatican Council that every ethnicity every culture has a share of the truth like small T like the Hindus the Buddhists the Muslim everyone shares the tea but the ultimate tea the big tea is what they call Jesus Christ. So, so this is what separates a lot of um traditional native, you know, we don't rely on Jesus Christ.

[00:15:35]We rely on this relationship with the earth, our mother, the cosmos, how we treat one another and so on. Um but it's not this eternal condemnation or eternal punishment. None of that. But I can understand there's a long many many thousands of years of tradition Christian tradition that that developed and so on. So what happens to aino who's not a Christian? Are they going to burn in hell for not going to church? Well, let me just tell you right now um you have to follow your path.

[00:16:15]Okay? But let it be a positive path, not a path of destruction.

[00:16:20]Okay. Because many of us we we carry that energy of wava and sesh se the manifestation of of of fury and nature like the hurricane.

[00:16:33]Sometimes we we we manifest that energy like the hurricane and we hurt a lot of people. And for many of us human beings who who cranked up the hurricane energy many many of them are in jail.

[00:16:48]So it's it's very important to stay rooted in rhythm relationship rely on our friends and family. Yep.

[00:16:59]Yep. You got to rely on on your friends and family. I know a lot of people say, you know, water, blood is thicker than water and this and that, but hey, we're all we're all relatives.

[00:17:11]That's the thing about Tino spirituality.

[00:17:14]You know, we're relatives. We're cousins. So, we have to help one another and and and then sometimes we can go into a disagreement and argument, but but I'm still going to support you, you know.

[00:17:28]Um, so yeah, where where's the non-Christian Tino going after death? Well, our ancestors said that our spirit goes to a mystical island, Sod. And in so there there's an area um the lord of death um you know is really bad but muyaba that's the lord of the dead you know and and everyone is welcome there's nothing written that says that only the good spirits live there or obas So here you go. Here you go. Life life.

[00:18:15]You, me who are alive and well. Thank God. I came from Jehovah Witnesses religion.

[00:18:22]They believe that the earth will be a paradise. But some some right only them.

[00:18:30]Another thing.

[00:18:33]Sorry, slow typo. It's all right, man.

[00:18:36]Come on. Okay. Yeah, I know a lot of Jehovah witness. I respect them all, you know, but sometimes, you know, as human beings, we get it. Sometimes we think we have the big T, the ultimate T, but we still contain a small T. So, we all have to get along. You know, it's important.

[00:18:54]See, in a native way, you invite.

[00:18:57]There's no mandates, but you know, you invite.

[00:19:01]Uh yeah. So in a traditional way our ancestors you know they recounted the ancestors how from from life they will go to a place called so which was um you look at the main capital of so that will be um wave so so here's the thing and then at night these spirits will come out these they call them opas and sometimes they'll play tricks on you and then the humans we have a spirit a voice our spirit is waste. It's a living life force. Physical. It's physical. Just like the SI is physical, we're also like a container of this beautiful gift that is humanity, you know. And check this out.

[00:19:47]Yeah. What's up? You want to say? But check this out. The humanity of it all is that we always manage and try to repair our lives and try to help others repair their lives. So yeah, we're going to screw up bad, man.

[00:20:05]Everyone can write a book. I don't care how old you are or young you are. We all have experiences of this making errors and failures and hurting people. But yet on the flip side there's this life force like the seme like the plants the medicine fire bama the sun maharu the waters um buay or you know the fertilizing rain. So there's different manifestations man. Don't get stuck on the hurricane.

[00:20:43]Yep. No one is perfect, you know, and we all have a right to get angry. All we all have a right to to to focus on our mental health, you know, in the indigenous way, like I said before in all shows, the physical, the mental, the emotional, and the spiritual, we have to keep those in rhythm, you know, and they all they all work with one another.

[00:21:10]So, we're not perfect. And I think the uh our ancestors and like many indigenous peoples when they were in charge, the air was clean, the water was clean, the crops were beautiful. It seems like the ancient peoples really were trying their best to keep that rhythm, you know, no person left behind kind of mentality. And yes, there were tribal wars and there were disagreements. But when you look at history, you always see how sometimes these disagreements and these wars came about because it was disagreement on on hunting grounds or or areas. you know, when you go to Bonen and Kiskea and the Tino Islands, there there's there's actually um petroglyphs under the the beach water and and they found this because of erosion and so on. They found a lot of these petetroglyphs and they're markers. They're fishing markers. So, in other words, whatever Yukay was there, that was their that was their area, you know. So, so they had this concept of sharing and not monopolizing.

[00:22:18]But when they had this agreement, that's when you had the uh these, you know, fights broke out. Even though we use the Batu game, which is again, I said this in the channel many times, it's a good way to settle your conflicts. So, so our ancestors were were all about living life, rebuilding after the hurricane, rebuilding your life when you have to or relationships. And then when we die, we're just going to go to another phase.

[00:22:49]We're going somewhere else.

[00:22:52]But we're not going to die. Our bodies will die, but our spirit will continue. And it's kind of a that's kind of contradictory to the Christian belief because in Christian belief, you know, you die and then your spirit um that's going to be judged and and it's going to wait for the last judgment day in which everyone's going to be judged and that's when you either go to heaven or you go to hell and so on. It's the Christian notion. So this there's this is this waiting game in the Catholics they call it limbo purgatory where you just you're going to go to heaven but there's some things you still got to work on. So hey you you know about that hey you got to work on something there huh you got to be working on something.

[00:23:39]So, so yeah, this is different beliefs, you know, different beliefs, but it kind of it's kind of becomes negative when they start forcing us, you know, that's not good. No one should force you, you know.

[00:23:53]No Tyino should tell you this is how you should do it. And that's wrong, too. How do you keep balance as Tyino with all the crazy stuff the world gives you?

[00:24:08]Okay, that's a very good point. You know, I remember you guys can go on YouTube. There's a there's a beautiful movie um Lakota Lakota 38. I'm going try to put a link on the in the description and it's a free documentary and in that documentary I learned for the first time what the language of intergenerational trauma.

[00:24:32]Okay. And we as tyino as indigenous people we carry that trauma and we trigger constantly when you live in a in a in a material society. So let me see how do you keep balance? So how do you keep balance? Well what I like to do I'm always like I like to research um different books and different um articles on the ancient Tyeno way. So I'm always trying to pick their mind.

[00:25:01]And I'm trying to pick it because, you know, you really had to work together as friends and relatives to get the job done, the crops, prepare for the hurricane season.

[00:25:16]Um, you know, a lot went in, the trading, the disagreements with the other villages. So, yeah. So, you know, I'm always that's how I cope. I try and then I try to implement it in my life.

[00:25:30]So if I have an issue with you know my family or my friendships you know I I I try to think that tenino spirituality is is uh is friendship it's relational.

[00:25:45]I also love to play music.

[00:25:48]This is my little Maya Wakan I have. And sometimes I just I'll just sit here and I'll just go through some beats.

[00:26:01]Oh, someone got the beats out there.

[00:26:08]Now I have the phone on one hand, but I usually hold it with two hands and I'll just I'll just play with the drum. I'll talk to it and and that that that really lowers your stress level living in this kind of society, you know. Hey, just made it to the live. Good to see you.

[00:26:25]Hey, good setting Dawn. Welcome.

[00:26:30]Yep. It's a good It's a group effort.

[00:26:32]Yep. Wea, what's up? Yeah, it's a group effort. That's right. The drone.

[00:26:39]You know, I've been watching a lot of these live shows. I don't know if you guys have the same experience, but sometimes it's like a person who's a a chef or something and all they're doing is chopping or preparing this exotic animal meat that I never seen in my life. Or or they do like street food cooking and or they do those sound effects. What is that? The AM RS that these weird sound effects, you know, that makes you relax and so on. So, I was thinking I'm going to do a live show playing the Maya Wakan up here in the forest and then we'll just play the Maya Waka and and then maybe you guys can write comments and interpret what the drum is saying.

[00:27:21]I this weekend I I'm going to go for it this weekend. I want to do that uh Saturday.

[00:27:27]This this coming Saturday I'm probably going to go to the forest.

[00:27:34]So, so yeah, that's all I want to say to all you Tyenos out there. What's going to happen to you when you uh when you die? Hey, that's the biggest mystery. We we have these beautiful belief systems, you know, but at the end of the day, we really don't know.

[00:27:53]But our ancestors had an understanding that the spirit, this energy, this life force does not die.

[00:28:00]and they have these beautiful stories, you know, of the bats and the spirits, the obas.

[00:28:06]So, so you know, I'm I'm I'm a hospice social worker for the past I'm going on 23 years this year. And one of the things that I learned from my patients through the years is that many of them sometimes in the medical field they call it hallucinations but towards the end of life you you you see relatives.

[00:28:32]I've I've heard my patients say last night no I heard them say listen I think I'm going to die soon. And I'm like what do you mean? because my my mother came to visit me last night and she sat just where you are right now and and I I heard those stories, you know, constantly from different families, Puerto Ricans, Africanamean, Irish, Italian, and they all share this story how it seems like these these these spirits come and they're using a form of relatives and they come get you. Okay, they come get you. And I know a lot of people who are of different religions like Christianity or Muslim and sometimes they're afraid to die because maybe they haven't really um had a really positive life. And I've seen a lot of people who share that experience and are petrified to die because they think they're going to go to eternal hell. And one of the things that we try to we try to help them and support them is say no no no you are beautiful right here. You are you are human right now. You are excellent. You know we respect you. You know and and most of the times they people feel it. If you're honest people will feel it and they'll let go. And there's a lot of people that you know they have that guilt. So that's why it's very important um to be kind to one another. Okay. It's better to love than to fear. That's all I say.

[00:30:09]Yeah. It's kind of difficult working in a hospice, but uh but one of the things that I I've learned I I used to be all, you know, still um I'm afraid to die, man. I I always tell people this because one of the things that I'm fearful of is that uh you know, I'm going to leave family. I'm going to leave friends. I'm going to Leo, as much as this this world is messed up, there's a lot of beautiful things as well and and I fear losing that, you know, and and how they're going to react. So, I fear it, man. So, when I when I come in contact with with with my clients who who share their experiences about, yeah, death is coming, but they have this hope because they saw their relative, you know. And it's interesting because the koba that contains the DMT um they used to travel to the spirit world and speak to the ancestors with the khoba and and every person on earth human beings plants animals in the pelino gland we have what's called DMT.

[00:31:21]They've done studies where in the embryo you start creating this chemical DMT.

[00:31:27]Um, musicians when they're creating music or art, they they they have this rush of ideas, a rush of genius. That's the DMT being um activated. Um, many cultures they call it the third eye. And so, here's the thing.

[00:31:52]What people are experiencing is is like a whole trip, man, cuz they're getting the DMT at the end of life where you get an overdose of it. And this is when when you start transitioning to death, but you're actually getting an overdose of it. So, you're you're seeing that we're seeing you're seeing things that we're not seeing. The dying, you know, they see stuff we're not seeing. They see what many people mainly call paradise, you know. I don't know.

[00:32:23]But but man, let me tell you something.

[00:32:25]Th man. Yeah. A lot of my patients, I'm telling you, they they talk about this this afterlife, you know, that it's like it's right there, you know, and because they can see their relatives.

[00:32:41]It's almost like going to a portal, you know, and our ancestors believe in all that, you know, and the and they have these stones like they say bo and see that there's these stones, they're portals, you know. So our definitely our ancestors had this understanding through the through the koba. But we all have the medicine. You are the medicine. It's in us. The geniuses of the past, those behas and medicine people, they managed to take certain plants and produce it the DMT so they could travel to the spirit world, right? Yeah, that's right. They travel, right? They travel, right? Go tell them.

[00:33:21]Oh, they're into it now. Remember they were shy? I like to think that it's really real, though. Why else would it be the ones they love?

[00:33:34]Yep.

[00:33:36]Yeah, man. I tell you, and it's all chemistry, man. Like, yeah, you said it. It's all chemistry, man.

[00:33:42]It's in our brain. It's in our It's in our physical being. It's in plants. It's in everything. What scientists call the God molecule, you know? It's like there's like a direct line to the spirit world, you know. So our ancestors had this huge insight to the heas through the use of bola.

[00:34:04]Uh it's crazy. It's like the ancient peoples were way ahead of the game, more far advanced than us now.

[00:34:14]We need gadgets, right? We need gadgets to keep us sane.

[00:34:23]But some of those gadgets can come in handy, I tell you. So you get you can, you know, get your job done.

[00:34:31]You can relax, listen to good music, listen to, you know, fun house, you know, it's all good. Hey, I I just want to mention uh another question people told me asked me about Yaya, the role of Yaya, Yokahoo, like who is God? You know, what what name can I say?

[00:34:51]And and I I I and I just want to stress this now more than ever because we're talking about death and God is all of the above.

[00:35:01]Okay?

[00:35:03]And and our ancestors try to pigeon hole it, you know, creating these 12 semis bringing this life force into a physical being.

[00:35:13]Um, and then we're, you know, and we're part of that that's that that super being, you know, that contains that DMT.

[00:35:23]Um, man, it's just a lot of stuff going through my mind right now. But yeah, Yaya.

[00:35:33]Yes, it's obviously he's a he's he's a father. He's a father. He's also a husband. Now, his is a father who killed his son. Yay. Yay. Then he had his wife.

[00:35:44]Then they had his ceremony with the bones and stuff.

[00:35:48]So a lot of Hebrew, especially Orthodox Christians, they believe Yaya is the the supreme God, the spirit of spirits.

[00:35:57]That's his translation, spirit of spirit. And he's a he. Because yaya is father, husband, tas, right? Or the head. But here's the thing.

[00:36:11]That's just one aspect. That's just one manifestation.

[00:36:16]But look at Yaya, you know, he's if if you if you if you like a God that's very like black and white in a sense of if you follow this law, you're going to be good. Okay? Or you're going to be holy. You know these a lot of people like these steps you know you get this order that's yaya he's a principal order you know and if you go against the order it might bring you death like yay but again yay really doesn't die because he turns into fish the ocean and so on see these constant transformations so is Yaya the supreme god well yaya translation the spirit spirits.

[00:37:08]But you look at Yaya, the principle, the order in life.

[00:37:17]You know, Yaya is the center.

[00:37:21]All laws are created through the spirit of Yaya, the principal one, the first, right?

[00:37:29]But that's just one that's one. Look, God is masculine.

[00:37:34]Um, masculine protective cuz Yaya wants to try to be unified. No rebellions.

[00:37:44]It takes a tribe, right? It takes a village.

[00:37:47]So, those are those are those are manifestations of this ultimate reality. We don't have a name for it, you know.

[00:37:56]Um, so that's it, you know. So you know we take we take clay we take wood it talks to us or stone it talks to us and becomes our seni in a traditional way you take it to a a beik for proper ceremony to activate the life force within that stone or the wood.

[00:38:21]So now we have a little more free reign since we don't have the yaya laws right the order. So, a lot of people are doing their thing. You know, a lot of people are making the semies or reproductions of them and then selling them. Uh, and I don't want to condemn that.

[00:38:39]Um, because those traditional beheas are not around. So, they don't know any better, you know, and even the modern beheas, you know, a lot of these, you know, protocols have been lost. So, so what we have to do now today is to don't do it alone. Search for someone or a community that can help in your development and your formation as a tyino.

[00:39:09]Takes a village.

[00:39:11]I feel the power yaya just by saying you see. So Yaya represents this power and if that helps you, you just like many ancestors before you, Yaya spoke to them and they read this beautiful story about Yaya and stuff. So yeah, Yaya is no joke for me. I see Yaya as the ultimate power, that energy, the law, order.

[00:39:43]Okay. You just can't do anything you want to do. There's there's natural laws, you know, there's principles that you have to follow and that's yagaya, right? So then you're right, dude. Rat represents that the motherly aspect of the creative you know they're looking at they're looking at their wives or you know giving birth or whatever or their children you know it's wow that's the mother is the human mother is is teaching us the sacred teachings this power of creation.

[00:40:30]Yep. So you have you have Yaya who's the ultimate male masculine leader and then you have at who's she gives birth to the cosmos she gives birth to everything and it's funny because when I asked Rammon Pane when Rammon Pane asked our ancestors who is your god and they were like oh it's Yokah Pua Maraki and then the very next sentence no Wait, but he had a mother. But you see there's that interreation, man. It's just I tell you it's a it's a timo spirituality is definitely rooted in family structure and friendships. You know, I agree. There is a natural law co universal law and yaya is at the top.

[00:41:24]Yeah. Well, he represents that that high the highest value, you know, the highest value. And I always I always teach this to to kids when I talk about yaya as this this highest value that we can we can understand or live life with those values is I tell you does anyone remember when your mother said don't touch the stove when it's on you know the the the burners you know or do not touch the pot because they're hot. Okay. Sometimes the kids will be honest, you know, oh yeah, you know, got burned. It was one kid show me a scar. Um, so, so here's the thing. Here's the thing.

[00:42:12]Um, man, I just lost my train of thought.

[00:42:18]So, yo, you guys are distracting me, man. You guys over there talking. What?

[00:42:25]Guys, I think they want to want to finish the lecture.

[00:42:29]Best pizza toppings, bro. A See, now you're making me hungry, bro.

[00:42:34]Oh, man.

[00:42:37]Actually, today I had a slim gym.

[00:42:40]Pepperoni.

[00:42:41]Slim gym. So, I my my favorite toffee is pepperoni. I I I can eat that all day.

[00:42:48]Thankfully, I'm well disciplined and and I haven't messed up my arteries yet. You know, that's probably chicken and onion.

[00:42:58]Ah man, that's a good combination. Make sure that chicken is well cooked.

[00:43:06]Oh wait, water flowers there. Your waterflower. You You have a scar too, right?

[00:43:15]It's the scariest day in my life. When my daughter went to search, when she went to grab the a cup of tea, that was uh it was her mother's tea. She was worn, you know, don't don't touch this. And boom, she grabbed it. It fell on her arm. So, we had to rush her to 91. We had to rush her to the to the hospital. It was crazy. But I know she still has some scars from that. So, so here's the that's the thing, you know.

[00:43:46]We we have these images and we have these experiences.

[00:43:50]So, so we have to learn from them. We have to rebuild our our lives, you know, cuz you know, damage will be done.

[00:43:58]There's hurricanes in our life and it's part of nature, you know. Jalapeno. Oh, I agree with that. Jalapeno word up.

[00:44:07]That's a good topping.

[00:44:11]So, yes, I want to wrap this up. So basically, oh yeah, I know in my Tino radio days, we did a show on uh does the devil really exist?

[00:44:22]So um I know a lot of people truly believe that there is a super being that's a manifestation of evil that somehow manipulates our actions or or tries to manipulate us to do the wrong thing.

[00:44:43]and so on.

[00:44:46]It's funny when you when you hear of characters like that in the creation stories or in different uh Native American, it's always like a trickster or the coyote um or in the Caribbean, you know, the monster hook. It's going to get you.

[00:45:05]I'm sorry, guys. I don't know if you saw the break, but my phone as we know, we have 12 manifestations. Actually, we got 13, which is uh us, but really we got 14. We got Yaya uh the father figure, the principal, you know.

[00:45:24]Um and maybe you have a a a unique image of God, the tyino god, you know. So, so what's going to happen when we die?

[00:45:36]What's going to happen to the tyino people? Will it be will he be since we don't practice um since many of us the non-Christian ones don't practice that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and then when we die what's going to happen um what will happen to us well according to our ancestors we're going to go to Surai in which there exists a place called guys really want to take over a place called Gu where all the spirits chill out. So all I know guys, I'll tell you this one thing. I can tell you this right now.

[00:46:22]Yeah. The feed out. Can you guys see me?

[00:46:27]All I know is that I've been on I've been on certain medicines or I I was able to travel to the spirit world. I was recommended not once but twice because I almost crossed that line between our existence and their existence and thankfully twice I was stopped. If not I probably would have died. So um you know I have I had those experiences and and many people you know they they see their relatives yep they see their relatives so it's important that uh that you know I can't prove this logically but I can prove it um my own experience, you know, I've been in a lot of ceremonies and situations from different people, different religions and so on that want to connect with their ancestors, you know, and and and many times it's been reported how it truly is a veil.

[00:47:46]I mean, we're this close of of the spirit world. So, so wow, it's a thin line between life and death.

[00:47:57]So, it's important that we live today the fullest.

[00:48:02]Look around and see what you can do in a good way. If you like that pineapple, buy it, clean it, and eat it. It's nourishment, you know? That's that's living life.

[00:48:14]If you know someone who needs help, a neighbor or a friend, try to help them out.

[00:48:20]before they ask for help.

[00:48:22]You know, different things, you know, different things. I know you know what I'm talking about. So, you know, cuz many times we focus on the sin or on the the negative and we forget about our power, our goodness, our power.

[00:48:41]That sounds like a party. Yeah, man.

[00:48:43]tell you one day I like to share some of my Jehovah stories and when I've been in different ceremonics I think you know these are all wisdom points from the ancestors I just can't keep it to myself I have to share it but sometimes you get in trouble accuse of being an egoomaniac but it's all about sharing if no one is sharing with you and when they do there's a price tag to it just be careful though right just be careful That's all I have to say. Well, guys, I just like to end this this live by just saying what's going to happen to the non-Christian.

[00:49:25]What's going to happen if they don't practice the faith, Christian faith?

[00:49:34]Well, we're all in the same boat. We're human beings and we have these ancestral stories. We have these current stories from people who passed on and and it seems like the most important thing to really focus on is what you can control in your life right now in the physical realm. Okay?

[00:50:02]So just focus on that for now. If people tempt you by challenging you to think about eternal damnation for being a pagan or being indigenous, whatever, just let it go. Just let it go.

[00:50:19]Let it teach you.

[00:50:22]Don't let it control you. Okay?

[00:50:26]So guys, I like to see you all soon.

[00:50:29]I'll be back. And there's an old prayer I used to be I used to pray when I was with the Franciscan friars. We used to say uh let me see it. Oh my god. I can't believe I I lost some was right into my tongue.

[00:50:46]Talking about more than 30 years, man.

[00:50:51]May you have a restful night and a peaceful death.

[00:50:58]Peace out.