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[00:04:14]So we're doing the Meliate trial today, right? And this was the first week. Opening statements were on Monday.

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[00:05:04]Uh this is worse. Okay, opening statements. Let's go. All right. So, Meliate trial first week, opening statements Monday. And then they just had opening statements that day and then they moved on to testimony.

[00:05:20]Um Hi Marlena.

[00:05:23]>> [sighs] >> So, let's see. Um do we need much of an introduction? I mean, I don't feel like Maybe I'll introduce the attorneys. So, we have um Leanne Sabatini for the defense.

[00:05:38]And Colby J. Ryan is [clears throat] her husband and also her law partner.

[00:05:45]Um So, those are Larry's lawyers.

[00:05:49]The prosecution is um assistant district attorney Christie Boyle. Bowles.

[00:05:57]Uh, Christie Bowles.

[00:06:00]I don't know, my mouth doesn't like saying um Bowles. I don't know.

[00:06:06]Um, hopefully that was just funny moment, but they also always have at the prosecution table investigator Rhodes.

[00:06:16]So, that's just a little something.

[00:06:19]Um I mean, I'll tell you about the courtroom experience. It wasn't perfect.

[00:06:26]Uh, it wasn't like super duper packed like Karen Read was, like you couldn't get in, but it was pretty packed. There was like 50 media or something. Like there was a lot cuz it's opening statements.

[00:06:46]So, I didn't get into the courtroom.

[00:06:51]Um, I was [clears throat] the second one there, I think. Was it that day?

[00:06:56]Regardless, I didn't get into the courtroom and [clears throat] I was in the overflow room. So, that was like a kind of uh, experience just because it was a TV I was really far away from that basically it you could not see much. Like I didn't I didn't really know what I was looking at.

[00:07:19]It was like from I don't I don't even know what angle to describe it as.

[00:07:26]So, the audio was also bad.

[00:07:31]That was the worst thing about it.

[00:07:34]Um, however, we had agreed, the media, that I mean, the rule when there is too many media for um >> [clears throat] >> what do I want to say? For seats then they do an overflow room and the media themselves are supposed to designate a pool reporter who will share the notes and I was like, I will do it. I take really good notes. But they don't know me. They don't trust me. They don't know what I'm capable of. The other news people.

[00:08:16]Um so, that's at the time I was like, man, I really could have done a good job. But the pool reporter they chose um I see why they chose him.

[00:08:28]He didn't want to do it. But they they picked him. He got a seat in opening along with I think two other people. I think they gave three seats.

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[00:08:53]Not really. I'm just so sorry for this.

[00:08:57]I I said my house is under construction.

[00:08:59]I got kids and dogs. I'm just trying my best to give you guys some updates and it's a little janky.

[00:09:06]Um How is Ms. Savittini doing this week? We heard she had a sad family situation. Yes.

[00:09:16]Yes. That's true.

[00:09:19]Um Thanks for bringing that up.

[00:09:24]So, I know from reading the um motions that have been available to read um and the news reports and everything that pre-trial one of the continuances, the last one that was granted, was due to Ms. Sabatini losing her father.

[00:09:44]So, um there is a moment later, we'll get into the notes, um that really upset her. It was Maya's father breaking down.

[00:09:56]And, um I My theory is that it was a father-daughter thing.

[00:10:02]So, um she she does emote. She she shows wears her heart on her sleeve.

[00:10:10]I And it's like her tone of voice changes, too. It's very like obvious how she's feeling. You can tell when she's annoyed.

[00:10:20]Um but like I think she's you can tell like she's being genuine because of that.

[00:10:28]Um yeah. That's just Anyways, that's that's what I think she's been acting like. Um Okay, so I mean, she's doing a good job. I will say those lawyers are doing a good job.

[00:10:47]Uh I think the lawyering, like I'm interested in this on a legal level. Oh, shoot.

[00:10:54]And like there's a truck here.

[00:10:59]I'm so sorry. This is just the worst idea ever.

[00:11:05]Um I I like to watch lawyers argue.

[00:11:10]So, it's really interesting for me, and I think there's been a lot of good lawyering. Um So, yeah, Ms. Sabatini, that was the answer there. Those are the attorneys.

[00:11:23]We got them introduced. Okay.

[00:11:26]So, I'm going to take a drink now.

[00:11:32]Yeah, Larry's lawyers are good at doing their job. Exactly. Like you don't have to like them, but I appreciate in the sense that it's like I acknowledge the the lawyering and how much better it is than Larry's previous lawyer, Bonita Martinez. Right? It's Martinez? I don't know. We just call her Bonita all the time.

[00:11:56]Um she you know, was just so awful and stole from him and and it's terrible.

[00:12:02]Like that delayed the case a lot.

[00:12:05]She delayed the case a lot.

[00:12:09]Um so, yeah, you want Larry to have a fair trial.

[00:12:13]Getting him competent lawyers is how you do it.

[00:12:18]So, I'm I'm glad that Bonita was a nutcase. Yep.

[00:12:22]Yep.

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[00:12:27]Um the opening statements everything like >> [sighs and gasps] >> everything's always at 9:00 in the morning, but most of the time it's just like 9:30. And I don't know why it's consistently like if we moved it to 9:30, then would it be like 10:00 before stuff started? Who's the late one here?

[00:12:47]Is it the judge? Who who's causing all this? Is it a collective?

[00:12:52]I don't know. That's just a courtroom.

[00:12:56]I want to be your eyes and ears. I want to be able to like share courtroom happenings with you.

[00:13:06]Stuff you would see on TV.

[00:13:10]Perhaps that isn't just in text and testimony and and the normal news stories. I want to share other stuff and commentary.

[00:13:26]You're welcome. Thank you, Christine.

[00:13:29]Thank you.

[00:13:31]Um yeah, I mean, so a lot of my notes are kind of you know, just like a little bit commentary and and stuff you wouldn't expect. So, let's get started.

[00:13:47]Um started at 9:30.

[00:13:51]So, the judge started off speaking to the jurors. I wrote, "It's extremely hard to hear anything. The sound is garbled." That's what the overflow room was like.

[00:14:01]Um but I had those pool notes. It was updating live, so I had those pool notes to read along when I couldn't understand words, which was a lot.

[00:14:12]Everybody basically had their laptops open like following the pool notes.

[00:14:17]Um All right. So, Ms. Boles, I said it right, Ms. Boles starts off I really wanted to get her exact words for how you start off. That's always interesting.

[00:14:32]So, she's like, "It was January 7th, 2021, and May Millette had plans."

[00:14:43]That's how she started it, and "May Millette had plans" is kind of the theme of her whole opening and maybe her whole case. Um Larry Oh, ho, yeah. Larry has been talked to the media. Um I don't know.

[00:15:05]Uh He He called her, and I I guess he just like had her number.

[00:15:15]Uh the judge, you know, remarked that Larry made a call for his benefit, which he did. He spoke to the media on purpose, knowing that his words would be put out there.

[00:15:32]Um I have a theory that just because of like the detail and and kind of like un- plannedness, it sounds like maybe these were supposed to be off the record. That's my theory. Um and especially cuz nobody else has anything. Like if you wouldn't he Why did he pick her like in particular? Why not like a national You know, I don't know. I don't know.

[00:16:01]Maybe he just he wanted He's been >> [sighs and gasps] >> you know, whatever.

[00:16:12]Larry talked to the media. He's not supposed to. It's not good. Um His lawyers are really, really pissed.

[00:16:20]So, um after Maymuna had plans, which by the way, Ms. Bowles says May Millet. That's how she says it. So, she doesn't say Maya.

[00:16:34]And she actually talks about this in her opening. She says like you know, some people are going to say May, some will say Maya. She went by both.

[00:16:44]Um Melly time. Oh, hey Mel.

[00:16:49]What did he tell her?

[00:16:52]To the to Alexis? Just Yeah, just stuff that like the get his words out about like the mistrial and the rulings and stuff. Like it sounds like he wanted some equity, I guess.

[00:17:08]Um >> [clears throat] >> in in the media, but maybe he just felt it was really unfair.

[00:17:16]Maybe just felt it was unfair. It he sound he sounded upset, so maybe it was kind of like a spur-of-the-moment kind of like I just want to get my story out there. I don't know.

[00:17:28]So, yeah, that I hope that answers that question now. Um it was just like it was just like stuff you normally wouldn't talk about.

[00:17:39]Not a planned statement type of thing.

[00:17:41]So, maybe he was upset.

[00:17:45]Okay.

[00:17:46]Um yeah, May Millette had plans.

[00:17:50]So, May and Maya is established as both of her names.

[00:17:55]Like it means the same thing.

[00:17:57]Ms. Bowles, she frames it as like some people will call her this, some people will call her that.

[00:18:07]And she says Millette.

[00:18:10]Um this has been a thing like people on TikTok have said too like how do you say it? I think you're saying it wrong. And it's like, okay.

[00:18:18]It's I don't even know if it has a correct pronunciation at this point because the judge, the prosecutors, all all the lawyers basically will say it once and then they totally like almost in the same breath will say it like a different way.

[00:18:42]But Ms. Bowles says May Millette. So, I think that's probably you know, what the family wanted then.

[00:18:52]Um yeah, so there's a lot of ways to say her name and it has definitely occurred a lot.

[00:19:01]So, also it So, she talked about trips that were upcoming. Those are plans.

[00:19:09]And she said plans to get a new tattoo, which I didn't know.

[00:19:15]Um May Millette had plans.

[00:19:19]May Millette had plans.

[00:19:21]May Millette had finally decided to leave her marriage.

[00:19:26]She wanted to terminate her 20-year marriage.

[00:19:32]And she was planning that she would spend 2021 without the defendant.

[00:19:41]That's kind of I don't have it exactly word for word, but that's kind of pretty close.

[00:19:48]Um All right. I guess I'll just keep reading it. Tell me like if you guys just want to me to do shorter explanations or if you like hearing all my notes cuz there are a lot, which I understand if you wouldn't want to see all of them. So, I'm just going to like read what I have for Kristy Woods.

[00:20:11]All right.

[00:20:13]Um Rather than see her kids endure a toxic relationship, um Yeah, I didn't get all the words, did I?

[00:20:25]So, she said she says rather than have her kids endure a see her endure a toxic relationship, she wanted to leave.

[00:20:33]But for the defendant, divorce was not an option.

[00:20:37]There was no world that existed where May Millette was not his wife.

[00:20:43]I thought that was a good way to put it.

[00:20:46]Rather than let her leave, he killed her.

[00:20:51]He loaded her body into his car.

[00:20:54]And then I wrote talks about facts cuz she goes through like the facts for the jury, which is really good. Like the security camera stuff.

[00:21:05]Um and just like that basic quick news story stuff that you would expect about the case.

[00:21:15]All right. I just talk so fast and then I get out of breath.

[00:21:19]Oh, yeah. He can, he just needs to Yeah.

[00:21:24]Yeah.

[00:21:27]So, all right, here we go.

[00:21:30]May Mallette was a daughter, sister, and then she talks about all the family.

[00:21:37]She talks about all the family for a while.

[00:21:40]And she talked about the pronunciations at this point.

[00:21:44]She talked about Marie Cree. She talked about Hawaii. She talked about getting married at 18 and how they were, uh, you know, Larry was in the military, in the Navy, so then May moved to Virginia and then San Diego.

[00:22:04]Um Yeah, the defendant was working at a naval hospital when it happened.

[00:22:10]May was DoD contractor. She worked in Point Loma when she disappeared.

[00:22:20]You'll know about May and her life and friends and family.

[00:22:25]You'll Sorry. You'll hear about May and her life and friends and family. And then she talked about more of the family.

[00:22:33]Um and she also disclosed the kids' names, which I don't feel comfortable doing. I don't want to invade their privacy. So.

[00:22:44]And there was There's a thing though that May and Larry wanted to call their son different things. So, she brings that up as a illustration of how they're on different pages.

[00:22:57]She says she loved her family, children, she had plans for 2021. May Millete had plans.

[00:23:11]Um in 2020, she expressed to her family that she wanted to move on for her marriage.

[00:23:17]Um she lived in Chula Vista.

[00:23:21]Throughout the case, you will hear several things witnesses will say that May was very proud of her career as contract specialist. And she loved her children, and she loved her family.

[00:23:37]Through 2020, the defendant used these pillars of who she was to coerce May to stay in the marriage.

[00:23:47]That's an exact quote.

[00:23:54]May had plans, again.

[00:23:57]I thought it was good. I thought it was a really good opening, by the way. Long, but good.

[00:24:02]Defense was shorter, shorter than I thought it could should be, but you'll hear a lot about security footage.

[00:24:10]And then she talks about how how they have that footage.

[00:24:16]Um and she shows a lot of it.

[00:24:20]Uh yeah.

[00:24:22]This shows May leaving. Basically, she shows that whole morning night morning security footage.

[00:24:33]And then she talked about how the family came over and visited to look for her, and that there was a non-emergency call, and she plays the 911 or non-emergency call that Mary Crest made to police, the first one like that started the case.

[00:24:58]There was no sign of her phone.

[00:25:01]The now the police comes to welfare check, no sign of the phone, and then all of a sudden the judge wanted to break at 10:50.

[00:25:09]She said, "It's time to tell May's story."

[00:25:13]I just love that. When she came back, I don't know if she had that planned that there would be a break there. But she said, "It's time to plan or it's time to tell May's story." And I was like, "Yeah, exactly. Like I hope that is is really like and it seems like that's Kristy Bull's goal and theory and focus in the case because it's so detailed, because it's going to take 3 months.

[00:25:43]Um did they explain the 911?

[00:25:47]I I guess it was a non-emergency. I guess it was a non-emergency.

[00:25:53]But yeah, I thought like it was a great a great thing to say and that is what I think everyone wants is for May's story to be told because for so long 5 years, it's just been news stories that kind of faded out that had some details and really they just, you know, talk about like the crime. But here they are talking about her and that whole time period 2020 and 2021.

[00:26:37]So, time to tell May's story.

[00:26:41]And in order to do that, we have to go back to 2020. So, she talks a lot about that, talks about who the witnesses will be like work uh friends.

[00:26:52]She talks about what people will testify to, like Jasmine Rucker.

[00:26:59]Maya um was afraid that she wouldn't win the divorce.

[00:27:16]Sorry, my notes kind of changed.

[00:27:31]All right, so the prosecutor says that Larry was jealous of Maya's friends.

[00:27:41]And I wrote that Chloe Ryan looks at Larry at that point.

[00:27:51]Thought that was interesting.

[00:27:54]Maya went on an extended lunch break with Jamie. We get introduced to Jamie to get tattoos together.

[00:28:03]Talked about vacations.

[00:28:05]I am going to try to speed through it a little more. Sorry, guys.

[00:28:10]Um talks about how she lived with Genesis.

[00:28:18]Larry had a Google calendar tracking her movements.

[00:28:22]Larry had told Genesis he was anxious and the arguments with Maya got worse in 2020.

[00:28:30]More heated is how she puts it.

[00:28:33]Uh July 2020, she moved back after Larry found her with Jamie in the parking lot. In July, she moved back in with Larry.

[00:28:48]At the family home.

[00:28:52]We start talking about like the spells and how that reveals so much of Larry's inner monologue and weird terrible I don't even There's not enough words to explain those e- those emails and messages to the spell casters.

[00:29:19]Okay.

[00:29:21]So, we talk about that.

[00:29:25]May texted that she felt drowsy after Larry gave her vitamins and they kind of talk about the spell where he wanted her implying that maybe there was non-consensual things and that he was drugging her.

[00:29:48]Maya was very upset with Larry after she found out he put their daughter's phone in the car to track her.

[00:29:58]That was news to me.

[00:30:01]Um more about the spell casters and subliminal messages to scare her into not leaving him.

[00:30:12]He wanted answers as to why his wife didn't want to be touched by him.

[00:30:17]He did look up date our rugs, you know, decode that.

[00:30:32]I lost my place in my notes.

[00:30:37]He had the spell caster do a spell or whatever for manifestation of things but also for incapacitation of May.

[00:30:52]Uh Maya found the subliminals and started doing therapy in 2020 December. I was like, "Yeah, like you go girl." Like if I found out I was like being having like subliminal things for my husband, I'd be like, "I need therapy. There's got to be like something with my my brain. Like I need to make sure I'm okay. Like am I brainwashed?" I'd be like, "Am I brainwashed? Like does this stuff work?"

[00:31:23]I I don't know if the spell caster will be a witness. Um I'm not I think not.

[00:31:33]There was multiple spell casters and they can have those be in evidence without that.

[00:31:41]So, I don't I don't think so. I don't have the witness list. It's sealed. So, could be. Could be.

[00:31:50]Uh May didn't have access to the finances.

[00:31:57]She pawned things.

[00:32:02]And eventually Larry called Jamie's wife to tell her that there was a sh- shmushmortion?

[00:32:15]An end of pregnancy situation?

[00:32:19]Uh Larry told the spell caster he was ready to take the gloves off. On December 29th, 2020, Maya had plans to divorce after the daughter's birthday.

[00:32:33]And he said, "Okay."

[00:32:36]He wanted an accident to happen to her.

[00:32:43]Jamie's wife was also pregnant and she will testify.

[00:32:48]And she ended up having to block Larry cuz he kept calling her, bothering her.

[00:32:56]Larry and Jamie eventually spoke.

[00:32:59]And Maya and Jamie talked even after.

[00:33:06]So, that's like, I guess.

[00:33:18]This is not going well. This stream is not going well.

[00:33:23]I wanted to get through the entire week and there's no way. I'm I would have to cut it down way more.

[00:33:29]I feel like I'm going to almost leave it at opening statements.

[00:33:35]And then, I'll just put the handful of witnesses.

[00:33:41]Cuz there wasn't that many.

[00:33:42][clears throat] It wasn't that much testimony that's not already known.

[00:33:48]I'll put those in next week's show.

[00:33:51]What do you think? Cuz it's already been a while. I'm very long-winded with my commentary and stuff.

[00:33:57]And I'm disappointed I wasn't in the courtroom for openings to see more things because I would love to be like, "Oh, and Larry looked like this during and Kristy Boles, you know, looked like she was the you know, the star. Like she was a star out there. I would have loved to see the body language.

[00:34:20]What sticks out to me?

[00:34:23]Well, yeah, that's a good question. I could I could do I could do that. I really Instead of going through all the notes, that's a good idea.

[00:34:38]Okay.

[00:34:39]What sticks out to me? Well, if I'm just going by memory and maybe looking at my notes a little bit, Myles father and Mary Crease stick out to me um as well as Jazmine Rucker.

[00:34:56]The police that have testified so far haven't really been too interesting.

[00:34:59]They're just like establishing like the welfare check and stuff.

[00:35:04]Um and they had to have the person who answered the like 911 call come in to get the 911 call into evidence cuz that's how like it works for trials.

[00:35:19]Um So those witnesses, I would say, like that's what I'm automatically thinking of.

[00:35:31]Let's see. Just talk about how you remember it. Okay.

[00:35:35]I saw on the news that the jury looked a bit bored. Oh, yeah, let's talk about the jury. I'm not going to do descriptions or like much with the jury. Like I really want to be careful because this judge and everybody like hates media, especially now.

[00:35:54]So excuse me. I always get like runny nose.

[00:35:59]Is the jury locked in? Like sequestered?

[00:36:02]No. Um They're not.

[00:36:07]Um So theoretically a juror could be watching this right now. They just have I'm not saying they are and I don't think they are, but they don't have anything preventing them from seeing the media if they wanted to, but they are given ex- um explicit instructions every day that is like if there is anything you see on the media or anything at all or you hear something about the case, anything about the case, tell us. And then they would probably kick them Locked in as are they Oh, okay, good.

[00:36:50]All right, sorry.

[00:36:52]Are they locked in? Yeah.

[00:36:55]Some of them.

[00:36:57]Some of them I would say a few of them are not. They do look bored.

[00:37:04]It's really obvious. Like There's one person that just kind of sits there arms folded like all the time.

[00:37:17]It It looks like she's kind of almost saying like really? Like you would say to someone you're like, really? Like really?

[00:37:28]She's She's bored. Oops.

[00:37:31]They ought to use pronouns. It doesn't matter. I don't think that would be a big deal, but I'm just trying to be really careful with what I say.

[00:37:40]There is a juror that has a notebook and is always writing. So, they're definitely locked in.

[00:37:52]No, I would never talk about what they look like or anything. I'm just talking about reactions, but maybe I shouldn't.

[00:38:02]Do they look locked in?

[00:38:08]Mostly is the answer to the question.

[00:38:13]Juror is on the older side. Yeah, see like the other media says stuff.

[00:38:19]Like I just want to be really careful.

[00:38:26]They are on the older side.

[00:38:29]Yeah.

[00:38:30]That's true. That's accurate.

[00:38:35]Like, you know, people who got excused like they're cuz they're working. It would be like a hardship to not work. That's That's why it's older. It's cuz it's people who are retired.

[00:38:51]And I know that from jury selection, too.

[00:38:53]A lot of them said they were retired.

[00:38:56]So, I I guess that's why. And I think that's typically how it is around America.

[00:39:02]I mean, just makes sense. They all should have a notebook. Yeah, um nobody else has theirs out as much as this guy. He's He's in my head, the notebook guy.

[00:39:17]So, I'm going to stop talking about the jurors now. But, I know that you can describe them.

[00:39:27]My mentor, Jess Machado, did like a ton of jury reactions in the Carrie Karen Read trial.

[00:39:36]And they were awesome. And she had little names for them.

[00:39:41]>> [clears throat] >> Like, Jenner juror cuz that juror looked like a Kardashian, actually. But, she I guess she means like Kendall Jenner or something.

[00:39:52]And yeah, so she did it in that case, but this one's different. And this judge is really strict.

[00:40:04]What did they say about It's good that they're taking notes. I think so, too. I think so, too. And maybe it'll get them more when it gets to the really crucial testimony, maybe they'll have their notebooks more.

[00:40:21]What did they say about when Nino was looking in?

[00:40:28]Oh, yeah. Let's talk about that, Mel.

[00:40:31]Sorry, I couldn't see it very well.

[00:40:38]The window situation is what you're talking about, right? Cuz I didn't know who it was.

[00:40:44]I don't know the Meliate family, whatever, like I don't have their names, which as a journalist I probably should. Like I probably should, but I don't.

[00:41:02]The dad.

[00:41:04]Oh, right. Yeah. Okay.

[00:41:08]I didn't know it was Nino because I couldn't see it uh from my angle, and I also couldn't see Marie Creese from my angle. I had not a good view. It was like I could I could not see the witness at all.

[00:41:26]It was like on the defense side, so I could see the judge, I could see the prosecutor, I could see the defense table, but like only Kobe Bryant really well.

[00:41:39]Um yeah, so what did they say about it? Yeah, Marie Creese said "I'm being intimidated." When she noticed it, she was like "There's someone from the Meliate family looking in.

[00:41:57]I'm being intimidated." And I thought that was so powerful. I thought that I was like, "Good for you." Like I know you're going through so much and you must feel so many emotions, but you're able to tell the judge and say, "Excuse me."

[00:42:15]Because it was during like a sidebar.

[00:42:18]And she was like, "I need to bring this up."

[00:42:22]I was really really glad for that. And so then the judge, you know, like the bailiffs were like, "Oh, yeah." And so they like went out right away and I could just I didn't know what would happen necessarily because I think they're not in the courtroom because they probably have subpoenas and you couldn't watch.

[00:42:45]Or maybe they're uncomfortable and would want to watch through the glass, but I don't know about that. I don't know why they were It was really stupid. It was really stupid and I'm glad they got yelled at.

[00:42:59]It's I don't even know how I guess there was no bailiffs out outside the courtroom cuz I don't think they would have allowed that. Like any like loitering between And just the fact that it was it was my crease. It's just like, yeah, like that >> [sighs] >> do have been an intimidating tactic.

[00:43:21]I'm glad she said something, too.

[00:43:24]Um So the judge was like I couldn't even hear him cuz it got so loud. Everybody was turning and was like, "Oh my god." And the judge is like "For the record, there is a member of the Leto family.

[00:43:43]They are looking through the glass the outer door glass of the courtroom."

[00:43:53]He wanted to get it good for the record.

[00:43:56]And I was That was good.

[00:44:00]Like, "Woo, that might come in handy."

[00:44:02]Like, "If this goes to appeals."

[00:44:07]To to have that in the record is great.

[00:44:13]I don't know if that that makes sense, but the judge didn't say much cuz the bailiffs knew what to do.

[00:44:19]And I didn't know what would happen to them, but I think they just got yelled at pretty good.

[00:44:24]So.

[00:44:26]That that's fine. That's Maybe they were given like a warning. I don't know. Can you could you be arrested?

[00:44:33]If you're like under subpoena and you're like peering in?

[00:44:37]Maybe they're not under subpoena, but they just want to peer in.

[00:44:42]That's weird.

[00:44:46]How long was he doing it, too?

[00:44:48]How long was Marie Claire having to sit there with him like looking?

[00:45:00]So, that was taken care of very quickly.

[00:45:04]Um I I think this is a good time like if anybody wants to ask questions about anything, I can try to give answers.

[00:45:14]Um I was just going to talk about what stood out to me. Um the testimony from Jasmine about She talked a lot about how Larry employed you know, his tactics, his tac- Well, let's just say his tactics that he was using.

[00:45:38]How Jasmine knew about them, so it's her personal knowledge.

[00:45:42]And that's definitely she was concerned about May like for a while, but she would just like kind of brush it off, and she wasn't one to talk about personal issues uh like for a long time to Jasmine. So, it was probably going on like the whole time she knew Jasmine. It was probably really really bad. I mean, it was going on the whole time, I'm sure, but it was probably really bad for a long time. What was today's trial?

[00:46:18]Um their court was dark today. They're going to have no court on Fridays ever.

[00:46:26]So, that's good. But, also maybe that's why it's going to maybe take 3 months. I guess the judge has probably other business.

[00:46:35]But, yeah.

[00:46:37]So, that's what stands out to me. Marie Creese was an amazing witness. That's um besides um Maya's father getting upset and yelling at Larry.

[00:46:57]Um Marie Creese was an amazing witness and told the truth and was so strong. She was up there over a day.

[00:47:09]Like, there was multiple days she testified. And she was there other days just like waiting to see if they were going to get to her.

[00:47:17]And I just could see she was just so nervous I don't even know what you feel.

[00:47:25]You're testifying at your sister's murder trial.

[00:47:32]I don't even know.

[00:47:35]Does anybody have else have any questions or What is What else could I little courtroom things like Kristy Boles wears gray and black every single day. I don't even think she's worn navy, but I'll look out for it.

[00:47:51]She wears very simple suits. She has short hair like this. It's like a bit a little bit curly kind of.

[00:48:00]Um Mr. Investigator Rhodes also just like black suits. And I think that's cool.

[00:48:08]They're like the Men in Black.

[00:48:11]Yeah, her crease is so strong. It was apparent. It was obvious to anyone who was watching, you know, the trial.

[00:48:22]Um that you you can see what a woman of strength she is.

[00:48:29]Um the defense I said in the other hearings that the defense were better speakers, but Kristi Bull is really good at asking questions and doing that and the way she picks up on stuff and her follow-up questions, she's really good at that.

[00:48:49]She's not as good not as good as answering the judge's questions and arguing her position.

[00:48:57]Um And then I was going to do Okay, I'll get to your question, Mel. Thank you so much um for helping.

[00:49:06]Uh the defense just like I don't know. They're about the same speakers like They're there's good lawyering.

[00:49:17]Um but so while they're equal lawyer levels, they're not equal exciting outfits.

[00:49:26]They must have money. Um They're lawyers, but Kolby wears like really eccentric suits all the time and little He wears a tie and a little pocket square.

[00:49:40]And uh Bian Sabatini wears usually pant suits, but one day she wore a skirt.

[00:49:50]And they can be all types of different colors. Not like bright colors. They're they're muted and mostly dark, but sometimes they have like stripes and um she has light brown hair that's like really long and flowy and it doesn't really look styled at all and I think that's cool.

[00:50:13]Boles is really buttoned up.

[00:50:17]Sabatini is like let loose. Like just let loose.

[00:50:25]She looks like she doesn't give a [ __ ] about anything. That's just her attitude.

[00:50:31]Um yeah, she acts she acts emotional um all the time.

[00:50:39]Does Larry look nervous?

[00:50:44]No.

[00:50:46]No.

[00:50:50]No, Larry doesn't look nervous.

[00:50:53]He is really good at sitting there.

[00:50:57]And the reason I tweet so much about what Larry's doing is because he's the defendant, but usually Larry's just sitting there.

[00:51:09]He will move his eyes more than he ever moves his body.

[00:51:14]Um I'm not watching him, but like like all the time sometimes I'm looking at the jurors. Um sometimes I look at the judge. Can't see the witness from It's a weird courtroom.

[00:51:27]Um so I never really got a good view of the witnesses.

[00:51:32]He sits there. He'll move his eyes, look at the screen, sometimes like move papers.

[00:51:39]Uh I guess he does write quite a bit, so he he will kind of you know, but he's very still.

[00:51:46]Um He sells the like man bun situation.

[00:51:54]And people outside were making fun of it.

[00:51:57]And I thought it was like inappropriate, but also like uh like yeah.

[00:52:04]Yeah.

[00:52:06]He wears sweaters with button shirts underneath every day.

[00:52:14]I guess like not suits. I guess they didn't want to give him suits. I don't know.

[00:52:19]Um what else does he look like? Yeah, his pencil was getting low when he you could tell like he wanted to get the bailiff's attention and like took a little bit. He didn't want to do anything like too much. He was just like oh, you know, and then the bailiff came over and he was like uh-huh yeah, smiling smiling smiling.

[00:52:43]So I don't he does turn that on and off.

[00:52:46]I don't know.

[00:52:49]Um yeah, there was one time he was like straightening papers.

[00:52:56]Very OCD.

[00:52:59]He's trying to stay still. Yeah.

[00:53:02]I think so. I think he he feels a lot. Probably his insides are just like rumbling.

[00:53:11]But he stays completely still.

[00:53:14]And one time he was like this.

[00:53:21]Like the witness is over here and he was like this.

[00:53:26]And he kind of like turned his head and his eyes to look.

[00:53:31]But his his back was to the witness.

[00:53:34]But still sitting in the chair right, you know, so it wasn't too noticeable, but I noticed it.

[00:53:42]Uh what other like courtroom stuff? Um, I'm trying to think of like stuff you would miss from the cameras, but the judge has really dark hair if you've seen the sketches. The sketch artist watching her work is so cool. He's not wearing a mask anymore and that was something that the judge brought up in pre-trial was like, um, "Is your client going to wear the mask?" And Ms. Sabatini was like, "Oh, yeah, no, of course not. No, no."

[00:54:19]So, I guess that's because everybody has to identify him. Witnesses like have to identify the defendant in the courtroom and the mask takes up, um, like half his face.

[00:54:34]Um, what was I saying? And then I'll get to Mel's other question.

[00:54:39]What was I saying before I lifted the question about the mask?

[00:54:44]The judge, dark hair, mustache, very polished. It's like slicked slicked back, um, like not slicked back, but like very put put together.

[00:54:59]Um, he usually has like a blue tie, I feel like. I haven't been writing that down, but I should.

[00:55:06]So, what witness was it? It's a sign of disrespect.

[00:55:11]I like would have to look back at my notes.

[00:55:16]I'm pretty sure, oh, yeah, it was Jasmine Rucker. And I didn't see it on anybody else, but I wasn't in the courtroom for all of Myia Cree's or um, Myia's dad. So, it's possible he did it other times and I didn't see it.

[00:55:36]But, it was Jasmine Ruper, who for those of you who who might not know, she is Maya's coworker. I think I mentioned that, but yeah. She was Maya's coworker.

[00:55:47]For a long time, and they were friends.

[00:55:49]They were more than coworkers, they were friends.

[00:55:53]Um like she would go to birthday parties and stuff.

[00:55:58]For the kids. So they they were they were close.

[00:56:02]But not close enough that Maya would like confide in her all that much about what was going on.

[00:56:11]Which is sad.

[00:56:14]He is so sexy, always has been.

[00:56:19]Oh.

[00:56:22]The judge? Yeah.

[00:56:24]>> [laughter] >> I was like, what?

[00:56:27]I guess so. I guess so.

[00:56:31]Did you know him?

[00:56:35]Um The judge is really calm all the time? All the time.

[00:56:47]He doesn't really raise his voice. If he's like annoyed or upset, he's he speaks Yes, Judge Camarera. Sorry.

[00:56:54]He just will speed up his talking. He'll be like Miss Abatini, I don't need to hear all that.

[00:57:04]Like kind of thing.

[00:57:06]Which she does kind of go on and on.

[00:57:12]I don't know anything else that's like important courtroom details. Yeah, he is. He's Yeah. Which I didn't like know was that significant, cuz I'm not from here.

[00:57:24]But then I read on it, and I was like, oh.

[00:57:31]I don't know.

[00:57:32]It just wasn't a a big thing.

[00:57:35]It was a long time ago. I would have been little.

[00:57:38]I don't remember. When was it? Was it I don't remember.

[00:57:45]Anyways, I don't really know about it.

[00:57:48]But it was cool.

[00:57:50]He is very educated. You can tell the judge.

[00:57:58]Very calm and respectful to absolutely everyone. And he he does Okay, the '80s story wasn't important. I wasn't sure it was the '90s.

[00:58:08]Probably the '80s.

[00:58:09]Um who's coming up?

[00:58:11]They have to finish one police officer and then I do not know. They the prosecution has made it clear that they don't want to disclose because of the media harassing and I think also for strategy so that the defense doesn't know who's coming up.

[00:58:35]Um so >> [sighs and gasps] >> trying to think who because at one time they did give a handful of witnesses.

[00:58:45]And I think we've seen them all now at this point. So I I have no idea who's coming up next.

[00:58:54]They are telling the story of the welfare check right now in the beginning of the investigation. So I could see it being a very fact-based witness.

[00:59:05]Another police officer building the investigation and the evidence in the jury's minds. Or I could also I could see another emotional friend, family member put in between all the police officers cuz there's going to be a lot.

[00:59:27]Um I don't know who it would be who would make sense.

[00:59:33]Someone else who talked to May a lot and was around May a lot in 2020, I guess, cuz they're kind of focusing on that year and how bad it was.

[00:59:48]Audio, shoot. Yeah.

[00:59:51]Are the kids testifying?

[00:59:56]Um I did hear that about the kids testifying and they're not from what I know.

[01:00:03]I just heard that.

[01:00:06]I think I'm going to end it cuz I think this live kind of sucks and I'm going to have to figure out what I'm going to do with every week a different way.

[01:00:16]So, I'm sorry. I hope you got some some info. Some maybe is good hearing like courtroom stuff. That's That's what I want to do is just like little side things in between the important stuff.

[01:00:33]So, thank you. Thank you. Okay, I feel a little bit better.

[01:00:40]I'm planning to do next Friday as well.

[01:00:44]Maybe Friday's not a good night.

[01:00:47]I would take any input on when I should do streams and like any input, really.

[01:00:59]Thank you.

[01:01:01]Thank you, sinners and saints. Thank you, guys.

[01:01:04]Uh if there's no more questions, I am going to cut it and I really thank you for coming and sticking with me if you did.

[01:01:13]And I hope you got something out of it.

[01:01:16]I'm going to keep going. I'm going to keep trying to get in the courtroom and hopefully the media interest will dwindle and there will and maybe the public, too, because that is also like a thing.

[01:01:27]There's, you know, some members of the public and attorneys that just want to see cuz it's cool. It interests them.

[01:01:36]Yeah, hopefully I get in, guys, and I can give you stuff, gossip, details.

[01:01:43]So, thanks for hanging out with me.

[01:01:45]You'll be there Tuesday, Lucy?

[01:01:48]Yay!

[01:01:50]Awesome. Well, I'll see you there.

[01:01:55]He's a law professor. Wouldn't surprise me.

[01:01:58]Yeah, hi Lucy. I just got done with this terrible, cursed stream, so I don't know if you even want to go back and watch it, but thank you for coming.

[01:02:09]All right. I'm going to go.

[01:02:11]Thanks, guys.