To truly understand Korean culture, one must engage with local Koreans through language study, reading Korean literature, and genuine cultural immersion rather than relying on dating apps, K-pop, or Korean-American influencers who often lack deep cultural knowledge; the concept of 'hyodo' (filial piety) is frequently misunderstood by outsiders as a barrier to dating, when in reality it plays a more significant role after marriage and has evolved with changing economic conditions, with younger generations experiencing 'reverse hyodo' where parents support adult children rather than vice versa.
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You Think HYODO Is Why Korean Men Won’t Date? A Local Korean Responds... | Podcast with Jed | EP70
Added:You say you're interested in Korean culture, but you come here for Korean men.
I have a friend. Um Is she my friend?
I know her.
>> [laughter] >> She's friend of my friend of my friend.
I I know I've I know her. Uh we're also Instagram friends. And um she is um Mary. So, Mary is Canadian. Uh she's African Canadian. Not just her, but a lot of people who come here to live for 1 year or 2. They usually say, "Oh, I'm interested in Korean culture." But uh we know uh it's Korean men. Uh this Cuz the first thing they do is installing the dating app. Or they already have the dating app, then they can relocate to Korea and they've been talking to Korean men in Seoul for month and month. And I'm I'm coming to Korea next month. And you have a fling, flirt, whatever you do.
One of the first things these ladies do is uh meeting the Korean men. I got a lot of complaints from all these foreign women saying that first of all uh these Korean men look nothing like in their pictures.
>> [laughter] >> The common excuse from all these Korean men, "I took that picture 10 years ago."
That is ass nine.
>> [laughter] [gasps] >> I I look nothing like this 10 years ago.
10 years >> [laughter] >> It's like It's a more than 10% of your life.
Cuz we live like a we live 80 years or something. And And you're 40 now and you post a picture of yourself in your 30s, that's crazy. Anyways, that's a lot of complaints I got from foreign women. I met this guy from Bumble. I got I met this uh guy from Hinge. You find dating in Hinge is crazy. It's It's ass nine.
But whatever gets your blood boiling, go ahead. Um personally, I think it's crazy. Anyway, and they used a filter uh on the camera, so he looked a lot younger. But when I met him, he was like wrinkly and blah blah blah. Um so, you're interested in Korean culture and the first thing you do is going out on a date with a Korean guy you've been talking to for 5 months. So, the married African-Canadian, we've been friends on Instagram for 5 or 6 months. We are not really friends. We met I'm I've met her like a couple of times with other friends, mutual friends, and I didn't really find her too interesting, but she talks a lot. Um she shares a little bit more than she should in my opinion. Again, I I don't stop them.
So, the stories are usually about dating Korean men and they she had a flings and oh, he was not a nice dude, so we don't see each other anymore. Like over and over. Like so many stories. I met her only twice and there's so many dating stories. Very similar to each other.
Love bombing, sleeping together. She didn't really say it, but you know, in the story they slept together and then he goes lazy, sometimes ghosting.
And nothing about learning Korean language, taking the course, reading Korean books. Nothing. Nothing.
A bit of a K-drama and uh idol stars.
Like the BTS coming back, blah blah blah. So, I think more correct phrase would be I'm interested in Korean pop culture and Korean men.
That would be the more correct sum because all those stories are about uh Korean pop culture {slash} dating, going out with a Korean man. And also because we're friends on Instagram, I I muted her account so I don't see her uh stories anymore because it's always the same.
Uh nothing personal. We're still Instagram friends, but I don't really see her post anymore because um like when someone says that I'm interested in Korean culture, I'm interested in British culture, so I I'm going to move to England. What do you do um first?
You You learn the local language.
You got to avoid hanging out with the foreigners.
Rather, you want to hang out with the locals so you can observe and experience the local culture. I cannot stress this enough. Um you got to read.
You got to read. You got to study. Um like for example, um I mean, the first hand experience is very very very important. It's It's life. Literally, first hand experience is life. You experience on your skin.
You speak to local people. You going out on a date with the locals. Of course, it is important and you learn a lot, but going on a date with the local people is the only way uh to experience local culture.
Your experience will will be very limited. For example, when I started my school A level I when I study A level in England, my English was not there. Um although >> [laughter] >> a lot of Korean Americans attack my English. It's always them. It's always them. They still do. Uh your English is [ __ ] Okay.
Anyway, um so my English was not there, but I really wanted to make friends there.
And a lot of Europeans, they spoke pretty good English. Um not only locals, I tried to mingle with uh Europeans usually because at the time uh I had a Hong Kong boys, but again, hanging out with Asians uh our group uh English was not there. So, hanging out with the people who didn't speak uh fluent English was not my option to be honest. Uh although the those Hong Kong people were very nice.
Just my uh priority was not there. So, I tried to mingle with Europeans and uh they knew that my English was not there, but they were kind enough to uh let me mingle and hang out with them. Locals, the same. Also, I was dating someone local.
All these things help me a lot. It's It's a real uh experience. First hand experience. But again, when the school closed, I was in my room uh public boarding house.
I studied every night. I studied like English.
I studied like look back my English and the mistake I tried to correct my mistakes when I spoke English with other friends because every time I made made a mistake sometimes I say something wrong and I I noticed that oh [ __ ] I made a mistake and I'm embarrassed. I won't do that again. So you got to study, right?
Sometimes you get confused. Sometimes I feel like speaking the second language.
I only speak English and Korean.
Sometimes it feels like it's like a puzzle.
You know a lot of words and you got to put in the right place in the right right form whether it's a past perfect, future, singular, plural. Sometimes I put the wrong puzzle and then I realize even from the use this YouTube when I review our videos like oh I made a mistake. I still try to fix that, right?
So I cannot stress enough that even if you move to the new country and you are experienced the real people and real culture, never stop studying.
You will have your your time when you're alone when everyone else is sleeping or they're busy, you got to catch up. You got to read local paper and also if you are really interested in local current culture, I cannot stress this enough, read the books of current studies. 한국학 한국학 책들을 많이 읽어야 돼요.
So like if you're really interested in if you want to say that you're interested in current culture, pop culture is part of culture over certain country. It's it's a part of it. It's not all of it.
So if you only hang out with oh I want to say something very very very important.
Hanging out with the Korean Americans, it means nothing. You will you will learn nothing about Korean culture. But they are just like any regular foreigners. Like for example, Trump is partially German.
Hanging out with the Trump doesn't get you anything German. So he represents nothing about Germany. It just so strange in my opinion.
Like when someone says I'm Korean-American, you you expect a lot of Asian culture from the person, but when you see Irish-American, you you expect nothing about Ireland, right? So, I think Asian-Americans get too much credit, although they represent nothing nothing related to Asia. They don't even read Korean, they don't even study Korean. It's like they don't study about our country and still talk out of their ass. I keep telling you hanging out with Korean-Americans and other K-pop Korean-Australians, Korean-Canadians, nothing. Nothing.
Um so, you want to learn learn, hang out with locals. Speak to locals.
Work with locals. Not those locals who hate our country and they choose to only hang out with foreigners.
Just try to mingle.
That's the only way to experience culture. But, you know, if you're only interested in pop culture and Korean men, then you know, you use Bumble, Hinge, what else?
Also, there's another app called like Coffee Meets Bagel or something.
I I see the ads on the Instagram.
Or Pepsi Meets Sprite, I don't know.
Just this is stuff like that. Just the dating app for Asians.
It specifically says dating for Asians or something like that. Yeah. I had a tattoo client. He met a girlfriend and they've been dating for more than 1 year and he said, I met my girlfriend on like Bagel Meets Bacon or whatever. Yeah.
Ketchup Meets Sausage. Whatever they call it. I installed the app actually a long time ago.
>> You did?
>> I did because I was desperate.
>> [laughter] >> I installed it when he was here, my tattoo client. When he was here, I installed it. I was looking through some of the the profiles. 90% Asian girls there who kind of have like a multiple culture backgrounds. They so a lot of them have like good resume.
The thing about that app like a Coffee Meets Sugar Bagel, whatever that's app is.
>> [laughter] >> Ramen Meets Kimchi, that'll be really good. Anyway.
>> [laughter] >> I was looking through the profiles of Asian girls. It's almost like a LinkedIn.
>> Oh, really?
>> Yeah, it's almost like LinkedIn because a lot of girls in that app I have amazing career.
>> [laughter] >> Name of university and their career is all written. Like, "Oh, I started my career in Singapore. I'm so international." Or some of them say, "I I went to this university in in Sydney and I worked there for 3 years." And there's a different flags.
The which countries I lived in is almost like a resume. It's a CV. You know, work experience. Like focused on work experience. Like I was looking at this app with with my tattoo clients. Like, "You really met your girlfriend from here?" It's like, "Were you hiring?"
>> [laughter] >> Well, a lot of Asian girls. I think that's kind of Asian trait. Like, "I'm so good. Like, I'm I'm smart. My resume is good. I went to good uni and I started my career in a big corporate." I said, "Okay, I'm not I'm not hiring, so goodbye." So, I deleted. Also, I cannot compete with these girls. So, it's like their resumes are very impressive.
>> [laughter] >> I cannot compete with those girls. So, it's like, "Okay."
But anyway, so whatever dating app you guys use. Okay, the I think these girls like a Mary, African Canadian friend of my friend.
Um There are two two things you can do to avoid the misunderstanding. Option one is you say more correctly, "I'm only interested in Korean pop culture and dating Korean men."
>> [laughter] >> Option two, if you're really interested in Korean culture, you should read you should stop looking for Korean men.
Romance should happen more naturally than just looking through their resumes and the picture of his abs and blah blah blah. You should go to um museums and and library. I would say not the museum. I would say go to library. Pick up some good books. But um picking up the books that written in English is not going to help much. I tried it. I tried to read some books about Korea in English. Not that good.
Always on the surface level. Like some foreigner wrote it out of their ass. Or Korean-American think that he understood the Korea and wrote it as not that wasn't it was never good from my experience. I felt stupid reading the books about Korea but it was written in English. I always felt stupid. Like why am I reading this? This is so bad. I read a comment from my channel because I emphasize um studying and reading good papers and good books in Korean. Someone said "Oh, but you can only learn so much from the books. You got to experience." The problem of foreigners who are interested in Korean culture, their problem is one, you don't want to study. You only uh try to date men here. Two, you watch a lot of crap videos on YouTube and Instagram, TikTok uh made by mostly Korean-Americans or some local Koreans who speak English and they make everything funny.
Uh uh Okay, though these videos some of them pretty good. Uh pretty funny. What are you going to learn from that? You going to learn that hyodo is still a thing in Korea?
And people don't date uh because of hyodo. What the [ __ ] It's not even hyodo. Hyo. Idea of hyo because So there's some people who don't even understand the difference between definition of hyo, hyodo, hyoja, hyonyeo. You going to watch all those video and think it's true. Like come on.
They're one of the worst things you can do. Just avoid watching crap videos on YouTube, uh TikTok, uh waste of time.
Um so Mary, I see uh before I stopped to seeing her Instagram account, she does everything in Korea with foreigners and gyopos, uh Korean Americans. She does everything. Um she does everything we do. She goes to Korean barbecue with foreigners and Korean Americans.
Speaking English, of course. They go on a picnic in Hangang uh with foreign friends, co-workers, English teachers, and English-teaching Korean Americans go to noraebang singing Korean songs with foreigners and Korean Americans.
You do everything. You do everything, but uh you never mingle with local Koreans.
A lot of foreigners and Korean Americans, they do have uh local boyfriend and girlfriend. It's amazing.
But never local friends. And also when they date local, usually they use in English. So what are you going to learn from that? What are you going to learn from that?
It's uh one of the worst things you can do. You you'll be always on the surface level. Okay, if you are only interested in Korean pop culture, you can do that.
Uh watch a lot of K-drama, listen to K-pop, and date local, male or woman, doesn't matter.
Then that's why you're doing it. You say, "I'm interested in Korean culture." It's it's not it's not what you're doing.
But um I want to say there's nothing wrong with coming to Korea to date Korean men, to be honest.
>> Yeah.
>> Um if your goal is to learn the culture, you got to do more than dating the local person. But either way, I think it works. You want to date Korean men, that's why you're here. Or you want to learn Korean culture, so you local Korean men? That's great. Um either way, I think it's great if you hang out or date Korean-Americans, Korean-Canadians, Korean-Australians.
You're a mum mum.
>> [laughter] >> You will learn nothing because you will speak English. And also, I cannot stress this enough. Usually, their Korean is quite bad. Just like they attack my English.
Their Korean is usually quite bad. There are some celebrities like Jay Park. His Korean is very good. Like there's no accent and he speaks very fluently. He's quite eloquent. He's He sounds very smart when he speaks Korean, too.
As well as English. He is perfect bilingual. A lot of uh young Korean-Americans here are not not um not really. They always say that to foreigners, oh I speak Korean, but it's really shitty. Um like my English as I said. Um so, um never date gyopos. Never date gyopos.
Because you will end up speaking English to them. If you date local, at least you will speak Korean. Also, you don't want to date someone who wants to practice English. You don't want to You don't want to date them because that local man will try to speak more English than Korean. So, he will keep hearing learn English. So, a lot of times um locals have this goal. Like they have an angle why they hang out with foreigners. Cuz they want to practice English. Or they they already speak English, but they want to forget. So, they want to keep that uh fresh cuz they used to live there, blah blah blah. Um but I think dating Korean men is nothing wrong with. Um if that's your goal, it's fine.
Also, you want to learn Korean culture.
That's why you want to date Korean men.
You will end up experiencing more local culture with a local Korean boyfriend.
As long as they're not gyopos. Gyopos the worst way you can do. As I keep saying, you Someone says, Korean-American, take the Korean part out. They're just a regular Americans. Just like the guy who said uh hyodo because of hyodo young Korean people don't get married. It's not true. Um just very shallow. Few weeks ago, for the first time, we had a lot of Korean comments that support our video because a lot of Koreans got You're sick and tired of uh Korean American influencers talking out of their ass about Korea, and that's not true.
>> [sighs] >> And one of the things that they mentioned a lot is about hyodo, which is like 40 years old concept. It's like talking about guanxi in China, and it's new.
It's very similar. Clearly, uh young people are not dating because of hyodo.
It's not It's not true. Uh it's completely opposite. Actually, a lot of local Koreans in their 30s and 40s, they feel obligated to get married because having a family, forming a family, and having kids, like making making grandkids for their moms is actually doing hyo. As I keep saying that hyodo is a moral action. So, pursuing the hyo is having a family. So, like for example, my mom used to tell me that, "Son, because of hyo, uh you don't have to force yourself to get married and have family and have a child for me. That's not doing hyo."
Okay?
That doesn't make you hyoja. Pursue your happiness. So, this example is uh a lot of people actually force themselves to get married because that would make their parents happy.
Cuz a lot of parents in the world, uh especially in Asia, they are overjoyed of seeing their kids forming a family, having kids, being a father, and being a mother. It's It's a It's a great happiness for the parents.
It's very uh heartwarming experience, apparently. So, it's actually opposite.
The claim that uh a lot of young Koreans are not dating because of the idea of doing hyo.
It's not true. It's opposite.
Uh a lot of people force them to date.
Of a lot of Not date, actually get married. Also, one of the comments from our channel written by a Korean person, he said actually this concept He said literally said this idea of hyo is 40 years old.
Actually, reverse hyo is happening. What he meant by the comment is that he elaborated what he meant by reverse hyo, though. Because of the economy is very tough, unlike my parents' generation, it's difficult to get a good job.
Literally, you cannot buy a house with your salary. A lot of parents are still supporting their kids in their 20s and 30s.
So, he said a reverse hyo is happening.
Um the the parents are taking care of adult kids.
So, it's it's like hoesik culture. Like two cycles late, someone says that hoesik is still a thing. Someone says that hyodo is still a thing. Like it's two cycles behind.
It's so so stupid.
>> [sighs] >> Uh we have saying that uh ignorance is bravery. Ignorance is a courage. I'll be so embarrassed to say that because it's completely opposite and that sentence that claim itself lacks the um it shows is evidence of lack of knowledge and understanding of the society. Hyo plays a bigger role after marriage.
A lot of married couples, they argue over the idea of hyo because like for example, I'm married with a Korean wife.
We argue a lot over caretaking responsibility. Like my my parents are not financially independent, then I want to contribute now.
And then my wife disagrees, or we got to disagree how much it is because I want to do hyo for my parents, too.
So, the idea of hyo, doing hyodo, it plays bigger role after marriage and it creates a lot of a conflict between couples. But dating is nothing to do with hyo.
It's nothing absolutely nothing. It's obsolete. I showed those videos of like Korean Americans talking about hyo and hyodo to my friends. It's like they didn't even know what to say cuz it's so outdated like 30 years minimum.
And also it's not happening. It's actually happening reverse. So it's like two cycles behind and my friends were like why are they talking about Korean culture is so inaccurate and if you watch these inaccurate videos, you will never learn about Korea. Just stop watching stupid videos. Just read published the book.
>> [sighs and gasps] >> People do fact check before publishing the book.
But online, you can say whatever you want about other countries. You can see a white dude in America who's never worked a day in Korea talking about labor law in Korea. Are you going to watch that? Or you're going to watch a published book and sit down and read and learn. Easy way is not always the best way. Usually the harder way is the best way. You make you sit down, spend time, make effort to learn and you will learn.
You watch stupid videos on YouTube, you will never learn.
This is very very very important thanks to David. So the journal claims that the people who were born in 1950s, the baby boomers, they're the last generation of the people who carried out and pursue the idea of hyo /hyodo because they actually did a caretaking duty for their parents.
And taking care of their adult kids.
The generations after them, even our generation, we don't carry out filial piety anymore. The idea is there, but our responsibility is it's been toned down a lot. It toned down a lot. I mean, we feel like we got to do it cuz we love them and respect our parents, but it's not like, "Oh, I don't want to have a family because of filial piety."
No, actually it's opposite. I have a friend who was a social worker, so his salary was very low.
And his mom was dying. It's true story.
I still speak to him. He's one of my friends. It's true story. The mom was getting sick.
He had a girlfriend also who was also social worker. So obviously the salary was not very high from both sides. Also my friend is older than me and his girlfriend is very very very young. So he felt like, "Oh, I shouldn't get married." But again, when his mom was diagnosed with cancer and at the same time his girlfriend started talking about the idea of marriage. And then he thought, "I want to do filial piety.
I want to do filial piety before my mom goes.
I want to make her happy." So he forced himself to marry her.
I mean, they're still married, but the struggle is real. Financial struggle is there. Very very very tough situation.
He eventually quit being a social worker. He found another job to support the family family, the wife. So he said that "Oh, my mom saw me getting married.
That was my the last gift for her."
But he confessed me that he didn't really feel like getting married, to be honest. He felt like the marriage is the marriage was not necessary in his life. He honestly told me. I mean, long story short, his wife, the current wife, she caused a lot of a lot of problem.
A lot of problems and she admits it. And his life became a lot more difficult.
That's why he quit being a social worker. He was a such a nice social worker and he's one of the reasons why like 12 years ago when I went to volunteer for the first time, I kept on going he because of him. He actually grabbed me when I was on my way home. He had me sit down and he told me about this what it meant to be helping disabled and thanks to him I'm still doing it, right? So I think the guy like him really should be a social worker. He really cares about people who are less fortunate than him like a physically, mentally, financially. And he doesn't really say like his marriage ruined his life but he kind of did. But one time we had a serious talk before he quit being a social worker. He's doing something random now for a little bit higher cash.
He's not happy obviously. He wants to help people generally. He said I like I want to be a huge to my mom.
So when I had my wedding my mom didn't have much time left but I feel like sometimes I feel like she knew I was pushing myself to get married but I feel like I did my duty. Although we're not having kids which would be the best thing for my mom and and father.
Father is still around. I cannot do that financial problem is too huge. It's a barrier. Financial barrier is too big for me to have kids but also I don't have that feeling for my father but I love the mom. So I really if I had the time I would have probably had a kid too but the marriage the least I could do. But somehow again somehow I think she knew that I I was pushing myself. It's a side of story.
Before he quit being a social worker he called me for my shaman's number cuz he was struggling too much.
He went bankrupt.
He his wife has a condition like a mental condition emotional condition too. So she has a problem with the money. One of the means to go through her mental her is spending money. So, she has bad spending habits and uh he went bankrupt. Anyway, uh around the time he called me like, "Ah, like life is so difficult. I I care about my wife a lot, so I cannot leave her. And also, if I leave her, she'll be like stranded uh in her in her life, so I cannot do that. But again, ah I really want to speak to someone. Like so, I and I thought, "You speak to your shaman, no? So, can I have his number?" He's like, "Anytime."
So, I gave him the number. This guy called me back.
Usually, when I introduce my friends to my shaman, because of the privacy, it's like doctors. They never share their stories.
Um but he called me back. He said, "Ah, Jed." I said, "What?" Uh "Did he say anything bad?" He's like, "I It was actually a few days later. He went to Busan to see him and sit down with him. And I told him everything uh about my mom, my marriage, and having my career being over because of the money situation, because I want to keep my wife. Um he thought about divorce, cuz it was too difficult for him. It was a lot of burden for him.
But again, he He's a bit too nice. I decided to stay uh married to her. Ah, but I need some advice, and I had a business trip uh before I quit. So, I went to see him in Busan. And as when I was telling him about my mom, and I did hyeol, and I became hyeoja.
I hope she's happy. It's a sad story, so nobody knows it's true. But uh my shaman said, apparently, your mom is not happy.
>> [gasps] >> Just have the mirrors.
>> Uh you >> She's my thing.
>> She's still She's still around.
>> Oh.
>> Because she's so worried. She She couldn't leave. So, she's right here with you. It's breaking her heart. You You're living your life like this.
>> Oh, that's so sad.
>> And she knows now like I I My shaman said, "I don't know if your mom knew um that's uh you were pushing yourself to get married to your wife just because uh you wanted make her happy.
I don't know if she knew at the time, but now she's here. I see her. She's not happy. She's very very very sad for you because she feels guilty that because of idea of Hyo or becoming a Hyoja, the good son, you pushed yourself to get married and you cannot be a social worker anymore because of money problem, your wife cost, and she she's just really really really sad. You shouldn't have done that. It's a sad story. It's a sad story, but it's a like a really good example of someone like sacrificing their life so they can be Hyoja to their mom, to their father. So, it's actually opposite someone saying that young Korean people don't get married because of Hyo. It's a It's a complete opposite. You hear this true story.
I still speak to him. I love that guy. I respect him so much and I'm very grateful for him. He's very valuable person in my life.
Sad story. Um when he was telling me the story, I was I I didn't like that. It's I was really sad for him. Um this is actually what's happening in a lot of Korean people.
Um like pushing themself a little too much so they can be the good son, Hyoja, or Hyonyeo, good daughter.
That's the real part of the culture.
Um like thinking about my friends, like people like they're really shallow, uneducated uh Korean Americans shouldn't be talking about Korean culture like that so easily. It's very shallow. Um actually, it's very disrespectful.
Anyway, um the the talk went a little too serious.
>> [sighs] >> But like this story, you got to know. You got to understand the the culture, right?
And some sometimes uh in every culture, sometimes the twisted part of culture destroys lives and hurt people.
So, you got to be careful talking about it. If you don't know much about something, you should shut your pie hole. Be be more careful. Be more careful. Be more humble.
Stay humble, so you can learn. A lot of people are so cocky. You know what I mean? They're so cocky. They act like they know everything, and they talk so much. It could be harmful to other people.
Yeah. Be careful. What I meant by the Korean-American influencers said opposite is because they young people don't care about the Hyo. So, they don't get married.
So, this is more correct explanation of what's happening. But, it's not because they don't care about the Hyo, and that's why they're not dating. No.
There are many other reasons like uh uh the the tension between men and women, mm also inflation, job situation, the culture changes, and also the male role and female role of society also changing rapidly. And also there's a cultural and also generational differences uh between men and women.
Many other reasons. Uh like to put it in a simple way, when there are not enough food to eat, animals don't mate either.
There are not enough money around. There are not enough good jobs around.
We don't date. We are hesitant to get married cuz it costs money.
I say that's uh it's not always about money, but money is also a big part of marriage.
So, just like animals, there are not enough food around, we don't mate. We don't date.
>> We are going to talk about Korean culture today.
Among them, there is language.
When we talk about language, apple like apple, so relatively there is a word that matches exactly.
The word Hyo contains a lot of things that we feel when we speak it.
It's very difficult to express this simple word with one letter in English.
So, it's very difficult to express this simple word >> Although the idea of here is very very outdated.
Having a clear understanding of what it is is quite important. Although it's not We don't mention here in everyday situation because it's not a big deal these days.
But again if you want to talk about it, if you want to discuss that with someone, you got to understand it a more clearly than saying that young people don't think because of yours.
Simplifying like as I as I said so many times someone over simplifying things is a clear evidence that that person doesn't know anything about the topic.
Hope you enjoy the video. I'll see you next time.
Bye.
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