Pragmatism Is Killing the Freedom Movement (Here's What to Do Instead)

[00:00:00]Government at every level is absolutely illegitimate, corrupt, broken, has zero place in a civil society. I'm going to break down why I reject government wholeheartedly and favor the creation of parallel institutions that are aligned with the philosophy of liberty using a framework political framework known as voluntarism where every relationship that every human being has ought to be voluntary and consensual. I'm going to break all that down and more on today's Live Free Now.

[00:01:00]Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Live Free Now Show, where every Wednesday from 11:00 a.m. Central to 12:00 p.m. I'm bringing you the news, views, tips, and tools you can use to live the free, prosperous, and healthy life. So excited that you're joining me today. We got a wonderful program lined up. I'm going to be ranting and raving, moving and grooving, breaking down all things that are good when it comes to political philosophy. That's right, friends. I got my start. Well, I guess I got my start in the conspiracy days. 911 truth, a truther as we used to call ourselves, a kook as uh the mainstream society used to call us. Uh but I quickly learned of the philosophy of liberty and libertarianism in college and then got to understand libertarianism even further as I got involved with the good Dr. Ron Paul's political campaign in 2007208 and really went on a deep dive in understanding the political philosophy of libertarianism.

[00:02:07]Then that morphed into agorism and voluntarism which we're going to be spending a substantial amount of time talking about today. So I want to thank you for tuning in to to the program. Shout out to Sal Garcia V. Excited to have you on the show. I'm going to be monitoring the comments. Love to hear from you guys.

[00:02:31]Thank you again for tuning in every Wednesday at 11:00 a.m. Central. I also want to invite you guys to subscribe to the channel here on Live Free Now. But let's go ahead and get right down to it.

[00:02:45]I'm going to share my screen and share where this all popped off from where it all started.

[00:02:52]And uh let's see here. Alex Ze shared a post and it wasn't an Alex Ze original, although he has all sorts of great originals. So this was on Facebook. He shared a post by this guy named Baxter Dashing Board.

[00:03:08]And the post says, "You ever think, let me move myself here."

[00:03:19]All right. You ever think about how if we value perceived pragmatism over morality, then we've effectively abandon both because that perceived pragmatism is just the presentation of opposition in order to gain position.

[00:03:39]But once you've obtained the position, you no longer you're no long you're no longer the opposition. So that same pragmatism since it's not built on a moral foundation leads you to pivot towards upholding power and maintaining the status quo whereas actual morality would require rejection of those things.

[00:04:03]Now there's a lot to unpack here my friends and uh let me share what Alex takeaway was on this one. Alex said, "This will go over so many heads.

[00:04:16]Politics is a great example. Eg. I don't actually like candidate A because he is fundamentally corrupt on XYZ issues. But if we don't vote for him, we'll be stuck with candidate B. And that's way worse."

[00:04:33]And around and around we go. Instead of sticking to principles that say, "I refuse to participate in this. Neither represents my moral framework. and I don't want my beliefs to be violently imposed upon others through mechanisms of government or war. As another example, assuming any of the conflicts the US has been involved in are legitimately based on defending freedom, which is a massive unproven assumption.

[00:04:55]It's so important that we eliminate insert terrorist terrorist group. So, we got to bomb this apartment building that our intelligence says he's in.

[00:05:03]Unfortunately, the civilians there are justifiable collateral damage.

[00:05:08]condolences to those who were killed affected. Literally insane. So he breaks out a couple examples and I'm going to take it a bit uh deeper on the program today. So there's a lot to unpack here and let's get back to this post one more time. So again, you ever think about how if we value perceived pragmatism, it's it's perceived pragmatism. It's not even really practical over morality, then we've effectively abandoned both because that perceived pragmatism is just the presentation of opposition in order to gain position.

[00:05:48]Okay, so let's break it all down here.

[00:05:51]And um the the way I want to frame this conversation essentially is on the one hand we have perceived pragmatism or in other words pursuing political means in order to achieve freedom ends.

[00:06:09]That's path A and that's what people perceive as the practical path.

[00:06:15]We all if you're watching this program I assume that you want to live in a free society.

[00:06:21]Maybe you want to live in a free society with a very minimal constitutional government as was intended by the founding fathers of the United States of America. Or if you happen to be in another country, you want to return to some some alleged glory days of your country. Uh right. So I'm I'm operating on the assumption that if you're watching this, you want greater freedom in your life and you would prefer to live in a more free society. So there's two paths to that. There's multiple paths, but we're going to focus on two.

[00:06:53]One of them is we use politics in order to reduce the size and scope of government substantially or ultimately reduce it all the way to no government. or B, we use consistent means with the philosophy of liberty, exit and build strategy, voluntarist strategy in order to create a a more free society.

[00:07:22]Uh so that's one way to look at it.

[00:07:25]Another way to look at it is we want to avoid something. What I laid out just then was we want to create something. We want to create greater freedom. We want to live more free. We want to be in a more free society. Another way to frame this is like we want to avoid pain from the predator class. We want to not have to be involved with CBDC's or a surveillance state. Right? So just the same there's two paths. Well, let's use politics to reduce government so that we're not as involved in these new policies.

[00:08:01]Or B, let's use exit and build more consistent strategy. Right? So there's different paths. One of them is someone would perceive to be more practical, more practical approach, pragmatism. The other one would be more radical, right?

[00:08:17]And so the practical approach as our post when we just started shared, if you're just joining us, we shared a post about pragmatism v versus aligning with moral principles and moral strategies.

[00:08:30]Um the practical approach has us involved in government and furthering government and aligning with government and trying to use status means to achieve libertarian ends.

[00:08:45]And as Samuel Edward Conan taught, there needs to be a consistency between means and ends. All right? Consistency in means and ends creates the free society.

[00:08:56]In fact, Samuel Edward Conan, he's the guy that wrote the New Libertarian Manifesto, which lays out the strategy of agorism or revolutionary market anarchism as I like to call it, which essentially is creating a free society by building parallel economies or counter economies as he called them and just operating outside the state's influence and eventually that grows and grows and grows and creates greater freedom. In that book, New Libertarian Manifesto, he says that it's the consistent application of the philosophy of liberty that achieves the free society.

[00:09:35]But when we're using statist means to achieve freedom ends, then that's inconsistent and we simply create greater status ends. All right?

[00:09:49]If means and ends, it's a way to examine phenomenon in in life. The means are how you achieve the ends. The means to the end. The end is what it is that you're seeking. So if you have statist government pragmatist, vote for Donald Trump, we should support this policy because it's better than the other policy or whatever it may be. Statist means and freedom ends. We want greater freedom. We don't want Joe Biden in office. We don't want the DNC to do A, B, or C. It's an inconsistency.

[00:10:24]But if we want greater freedom and we don't want Biden to affect us and we don't want the predator class to have its way with us, then we ought to use freedom means to achieve freedom ends. All right, we're talking philosophy. Normally, I've been doing exit and build strategy and more what I would genuinely consider to be practical, pragmatic approaches to this game. But today we're talking philosophy because I haven't talked philosophy in quite some time.

[00:10:54]So the idea is if we're using pragmatic means to achieve freedom ends then we're going to find ourselves ending up as the very thing we're in opposition to.

[00:11:10]Because once we start collaborating with this system in order we we find that well we need power in the system in order to stop them from doing what they're going to do that we want to avoid. And so now we need to preserve this power right Lord Actton said power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely and so when you get involved in that system oftent times it affects you more than you affect it. What was it? Nietze that said you stare into the abyss long enough and it stares back, right? Okay. So, there's a little bit about means and ends and the approach that we ought to take and and here pretty soon I'll talk a little bit more about the practical side of like how do we implement this? How do we actually create this? But first, I just want to talk about government as an institution and why we ought to seek the creation of a genuinely free society.

[00:12:04]So, this will be more a conversation because I think there's still a lot of folks in our freedom community that maybe woke up with COVID or were redpilled during COVID and all of a sudden were just tossed into a world of conspiracy and fear and the predator class rolling out all sorts of surveillance programs and public health measures. It's just been really overwhelming and a lot of folks didn't have time haven't had the time to sit down and ponder political philosophy and think about questions like do we even need government? What is the philosophy of liberty? Why is libertarianism an important political philosophy that I should understand and seek to uh create a libertarian society? So my approach to this whole world and and many other the folks in my circle and and much of the other leadership types that are in this general freedom movement of ours, there was like an evolution and a lot of folks came about their political awakening during the Ron Paul for president campaign in 2007 2008 or 2011 2012 for the younger folks.

[00:13:26]And that movement had a strong emphasis on the philosophy of liberty or political libertarianism.

[00:13:36]And so I think that's an important foundation to have as we pursue these exit and build strategies because when we have a principled position, it enables us to avoid getting swept up into some opposition movement as our original post laid out and actually try to align with with the philosophy and and anchor our positions in principles over pragmatism.

[00:14:10]Okay. Again, when we have our our principles identified and we focus on those principles and we seek to create systems in alignment with those principles, we have a we're rooted somewhere. And it's a lot easier for us to stay on track and to stay the course, not to get swept into re a reactionary paradigm where all of a sudden we're defined by what it is that we don't want. Right? We make choices based on what we want to avoid as opposed to what it is that we desire in life in society.

[00:14:50]Okay? So what is the philosophy of liberty? Libertarianism uh well the philosophy of liberty and libertarianism I would say uh the foundational principles are one self ownership we own our bodies no one else owns our bodies government doesn't own our bodies and by virtue of owning our bodies we have the right to make decisions about what goes into our bodies what we do with our bodies and ultimately When we mix our creative energy with things in nature, this is John Lock. Uh how John Lock defined voluntary exchange. Essentially, when we take our creative tendencies and mix our creative capacity with things that were in the state of nature, taking them out of the state of nature and putting them into productive use, we have a right to those things as well. And if we exchange those things for money or trade those things, then we have a right to the fruit of our labor and we ought to keep that. So again, if we own our bodies and then we take our bodies and our creative capacity and our minds and we go out and we create things and then we exchange money or other goods or services for those things, we have a right to that as well. This is where the ideas of voluntary exchange come from. This is also where taxation is theft. Because if we own our bodies and we don't owe allegiance to anyone, we own our bodies and we have a right to make decisions about who we want to associate with, who we want to uh relate to in life, who we want to be in relationship with.

[00:16:38]Then we go in exchange with other human beings.

[00:16:43]and that exchange is voluntary and we're entering into an exchange for mutual benefit so we both can improve our situation in life then it follows that government or some third party shouldn't have a right to interfere or to take the fruit of our labor right that's where free markets come into as well uh free markets come into play a free market is what Murray Rothbart who was a libertarian and voluntarious thinker. He believed and said that the free market is the sum total of all voluntary exchange.

[00:17:23]Okay. And so essentially there's just some of the founding principles of libertarianism. self ownership, the right to the fruits of our labor, voluntary exchange, free markets, and then here's one key thing about libertarianism and a consistent libertarianism, not a small a small government libertarian.

[00:17:50]Those same Oh, I I left out one key principle, my mistake. The non-aggression principle. So, we have self ownership, the non-aggression principle, and voluntary exchange. The non-aggression principle holds that it's wrong to initiate force or aggression against another person. Now, that doesn't necessarily rule out defensive aggression. That's why it says it's wrong to initiate aggression against another person. If someone initiates aggression against you, then you ought to have a right to defend yourself, unless you would consider yourself a pacifist. All right? So, self ownership, non-aggression principle, and voluntary exchange or free markets. Those are the foundational principles of libertarianism. Now, a key difference between libertarianism and other political philosophies is a libertarian believes that these principles ought to apply to all human beings. Whether they wear the hat of government or have a badge or were elected to political office, it matters not. They still ought to adhere to the non-aggression principle.

[00:19:03]Right? So if I can't go and aggress upon another person or if I can't go and steal and take money or property from another person, government ought not to as well.

[00:19:18]And that is a libertarian position that in turn makes government illegitimate or government de facto theft when they're aggressing upon other people. Why should they have the right to initiate aggression against other people? When we really examine what government is or the state is how Murray Rothbart defines the state.

[00:19:45]All right? Because you can have government. I mean really the root word of govern is to rule over, right? But you can have a governmental system where people make decisions and people opt into this system.

[00:20:00]All right? But the state, the state, not the state of Texas, but a state as a political jurisdiction, the state is an institution which enjoys a geographic monopoly on the initiation of violence. That's how Murray Rothbart defines the state.

[00:20:20]There's this great book called The Anatomy of the State that breaks all this down. In fact, it's kind of like a little pamphlet. It's very short and sweet. And he shares in that piece that again the state is an institution which enjoys a geographic monopoly on the initiation of violence. So, let's unpack that.

[00:20:40]A geographic monopoly meaning in a certain geographic area like the United States of America or the United Kingdom or England or the European Union now as a political jurisdiction or Japan or Russia, right?

[00:20:58]That's a territory, a geographic area.

[00:21:00]And there's an institution known as the state that exists within this geographic area that has a monopoly on the initiation of violence. meaning they're the only institution that apparently has the authority to initiate violence against another person.

[00:21:18]Other people can't do that. It's criminal if an if a nonstate actor initiates violence against another non-state actor. It's definitely criminal in the eyes of the government if a non-state actor initiates violence against a state actor or representative of the state. But within that geographic territory, it's general, it's commonly accepted by the body politic that it is appropriate and justified and legitimate and moral for a law enforcement officer, an officer of the state, a state actor to initiate aggression against another person or a tax authority to initiate aggression and theft from another person. All right? So again, the libertarian rejects that and says whether you're a state actor or a private person, you can't initiate aggression against another person. It's wrong. It's immoral. You see, and now to take it back to our post, to take it back to our original post, it's what the original post said. If you're just joining us, my friends, I got we got a Fulu child in the house.

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[00:22:45]Shout out to keep moving forward. Thank you so much for joining us on the program today. Guys, if you're just joining us, we've been reviewing this post that Alex Zack shared. That's where I found it from this guy named Baxter Dashing Board.

[00:23:00]Sexual symbolism. sex symbol. I'm assuming he's a drummer with the word symbol there, but who knows what's going on there. You ever think about how if we value perceived pragmatism over morality, then we effectively abandon both because that perceived pragmatism is just the presentation of opposition in order to gain position. But once you've attained the position, you're no longer the opposition. So that same pragmatism since it's not built on a moral foundation leads you to pivot towards upholding power and maintaining the status quo whereas actual morality would require rejection of those things.

[00:23:40]Okay. So back to what I was just now talking about again the libertarian those that adhere to the philosophy of liberty they believe that we ought to have a moral position for example the non-aggression principle which is an ethical principle an ethical position we ought to have a moral position that it's wrong to initiate aggression against the other person and we ought to adhere to that morally and a libertarian believes that not only is it wrong for a private person to initiate aggression against another private person. But a libertarian, someone that adheres to the philosophy of liberty, also believes it's wrong for a state actor, a government official, a law enforcement authority, a taxing authority, the FBI, whatever it may be, the um ICE, right?

[00:24:30]the Customs Enforcement of the Department of Homeland Security, it's wrong too for that human being that wears a badge acting under alleged state authority to initiate aggression against another person. And you see, we hold a moral position, which may not always appear to be practical, but as the Post points out, which is very reminiscent of the Benjamin Franklin, those that give up liberty for security deserve neither.

[00:24:58]they get neither and they deserve neither. You ever think about how if we value perceived pragmatism over morality then we've effectively abandoned both which is pretty solid. Uh so if you're pursuing freedom and you start going towards these pragmatist means to achieve that freedom ultimately you're going to give up that freedom. You're not going to get it. you're abandoning it because the only way to effectively create a free society as I shared before and as our good friend Samuel Edward Conan III shared it's the consistent application of the philosophy of liberty that creates the free society.

[00:25:40]Thus, when it comes to libertarianism just the same, it's the consistent application of the philosophy of liberty to all human beings that achieves the free society as well. And when you consistently apply the philosophy of liberty across the board and you say that no individual should have the right, the legitimate right to initiate aggression against another person, it effectively removes the state from society. If we were to exist in a society where the non-aggression principle was adhered to across the board, it would mean that there would be no state. Remember we define the state as Murray Rothbart defines the state that institution which enjoys a geographic monopoly on the initiation of violence. If we apply libertarianism consistently across the board, there is no state.

[00:26:34]So you got to ask yourself, do I and this is for folks that may not be anarchist or voluntarist, right? Those are two basically mean the same thing essentially. One is the absence of something. Anarchism isn't dressing up in black and throwing Molotov cocktails at a Starbucks in Seattle. Anarchism means an arc. It's the an a preface with arc. Arcos like rulers. A and an it's no ruler. No rulers. It doesn't mean no rules or no organization.

[00:27:14]It doesn't mean chaos.

[00:27:17]It means no rulers. Anarchy. Okay. So, anarchy is the absence of rulers. I'm an anarchist. I don't believe we ought to have rulers, right?

[00:27:30]In a spiritual belief. I don't maybe God rules over all, right? Jesus Christ.

[00:27:36]Whatever you want to say there. We're talking about man in the physical realm, not metaphysical spiritual realm. So no human rulers, no rulers, and that's anarchism. And then voluntarism on the other hand, it's more of a soft way to express basically the same thing. But voluntarism holds that all relationships ought to be voluntary.

[00:27:59]Voluntary as in non-coercive.

[00:28:02]Voluntary as in all human relationships are consensual. And it would follow if everybody's rational actors, then all human relationships are not only voluntary and consensual, but they're also mutually beneficial.

[00:28:18]Because a rational actor, somebody that has a sound mind, wouldn't enter into a relationship or an exchange unless it was mutually beneficial in some way, as in both of the parties are involved in a relationship or an exchange or a contract or improving their position.

[00:28:35]One of them isn't extracting or exploiting or existing in a parasitic nature with the other parasitic relationship with the other person. Like the state is the great parasite that sucks off of the body politic all the taxes and gives it to Israel and funds foreign wars of aggression and the police state. All right. So you got anarchism, the absence of rulers. You got voluntarism, the presence of voluntary relationships.

[00:29:01]Okay. So I'm a voluntarist. I'm an anarchist. And for the folks that are still upholding the idea that we should have a small government, a minarchist government as they would call it, um you got to essentially abandon the non-aggression principle because in order to have government, you can't adhere to the principle of non-aggression because government is necessarily an initiation initiation of aggress. aggression.

[00:29:37]So I I just like it could help you to come to this voluntarist way to recognize that I guess then in order to believe in government, in order to advocate for government, which isn't even something that's debated nowadays.

[00:29:53]M is debated in our libertarian and freedom circle, but in the in the public sphere, it's not on the 3x5 index card of accepted political disc discourse as Tom Woods would say to like actually talk about well, we do do we need government? Should we have government?

[00:30:12]But I think more and more of us if we put these ideas out there, if more and more tools and institutions and frameworks come about like decentralized blockchain technology or encrypted communication or parallel internet infrastructure um or um there's all sorts of like free society movements, free cities and institute for competitive governance, all these concepts.

[00:30:39]Interesting enough, a much of much of this mainstream academia and literature and organizations and conferences that are putting out ideas like maybe we should have different types of governance, maybe we should have competitive governance, maybe we should have blockchainbased governance.

[00:31:00]A lot of those organizations are funded in part by Peter Teal and Co. which is kind of a trip when you think about it.

[00:31:08]Um, but I digress. It's not even really talked about whether we ought to have government or not. But if you're somebody that still believes in government or thinks this whole anarchist voluntarism thing is wrong, then you necessarily need to accept that one group of individuals. You you need and if you think about morals and ethics, you need to accept that like, okay, well then I'm okay with one group of individuals coercing another group and initiating violence against another group.

[00:31:37]And then let's just take it a step further. So like what does it look like to be okay with that? Well, to be okay with that, if you're a moral human being that cares about morality and ethics and and people not being harmed and coerced and having innocent people having bombs dropped upon them, which I assume if you're watching this program, I hope I'm attracting folks that actually care about humanity and aren't so demented and culted out that they're like, "We should kill all the brown people cuz this, that, and the other. turn the Middle East into a parking lot or glass or what the heck ever. But uh just think about though like if you think like okay well then we ought to have government and we ought to have a fair system of democracy where we choose our representatives and those representatives if if more people paid attention. We would have moral upstanding citizens that would um inherit government governmental institutions and that would inhabit the Congress and and they would they would make they would be um benevolent dictators essentially and and they and they would represent us and they would have a foundation where it's a republic.

[00:32:53]So they're they're bound by a constitution, right? And then maybe it's okay if that group of people wields the political power that initiates aggression against other people. And and they should only initiate aggression against people that are not following the law. And and you know at the end of the day to be honest what was it? Thusidities man is inherition to do wrong.

[00:33:22]Um, I don't know that I agree with that or not, but boy oh boy, history sure has shown that that like there's this inherent evil in a lot of people. Maybe if we're looking at the Christian framework, it's Satan present and evil present in humanity. Um, but I think that it's impractical.

[00:33:44]So there's this um there's this uh paradox or there's a disconnect.

[00:33:53]There's a disconnect when you seek pragmatist political means in order in order to achieve more free society, more just, equitable, peaceful society, right? But it's completely impractical when you think about the nature of of humanity when those that tend to be the most corrupted human beings that are willing to inflict harm upon other people, those are the ones that are seeking out these institutions of power. And it's very rare that a Ron Paul or Thomas Massie comes around. And boy oh boy, I tell you what, let's look at what happened to Ron Paul and Thomas Massie.

[00:34:35]If you if you're somebody that believes in politics still or practical means, look what happened to Thomas Massie. I mean, government's operating exactly as is intended to operate, as is the political system.

[00:34:50]And it's not like we abandoned some perfect system back in the early days of the American Republic. It was corrupt as hell then, as well. And one of the first things that the newly formed federal central government did when a bunch of people were still in opposition to a strong central government when there was still conversations about federalism and anti-federalism taking place when there was still a stark contrast between the Tom the Jeffersonian Republicans and folks that wanted a Republican agrarian decentralized state power in the state uh system versus the Hamiltonians and Washingtonians that wanted a stronger central government. One of the very first things that took place was Hamilton encouraged George Washington to call up the newly formed militia that was repres that for the for the United States government, the central government and put down the whiskey rebellion which was people that were brewing their own whiskey, distilling their own whiskey without paying the whiskey tax.

[00:35:56]What a foolish thing to institute a whiskey tax right after the American Revolution and then to wield the central government's authority and power.

[00:36:06]That was against the non-aggression principle.

[00:36:11]Anyway, my point is I think it's extremely impractical to believe that there will be these philosopher kings that would come along and that would inhabit the institution of government and that would wield the power of government in a noble and just way.

[00:36:35]And then here's one challenge with government altogether. Again, like this is the type of thing that we ought to be thinking about. If you're just joining us, you're watching the Live Free Now Show. John Bush here. Every Wednesday, we bring you the news, views, tips, and tools you can use to live a free, prosperous, and healthy life. And I came across a post recently that Alex Z shared that got me thinking about political philosophy. And I recognized that this used to be one of the only things that I would talk about. It definitely was the only thing I studied for many years. And I I' I've kind of abandoned that because just in the mode of action because ultimately I believe that action first and foremost is more important than any philosophizing. However, having just witnessed what took place to a significant chunk of the freedom movement when Trump got put into power again um and because everybody in this guy's post is just the essence of what happened with Donald Trump. I don't know if that's why he posted it, but it's expressly exactly what happened. That's how Ze interpreted it. It was Zack that shared this post by this guy named Baxter Dashing Rod.

[00:37:45]Is that a joke? Dashing Rod. Backter dashing rod. Sex symbol. Symbol as in a drum symbol. Anyway, I don't know who this guy is. Um I think it's important that we all are rooted in principles and a lot of people in the freedom movement got involved more recently because they woke up they were redpilled after COVID and they didn't have years upon years like many other folks in the freedom movement did to kind of develop a political philosophy or they didn't get brought into this movement through um outlets like Dr. Ron Paul who emphasized libertarianism and and organizations like Young Americans for Liberty which are helping teach young college students libertarianism. And the reason why it's important to have a political philosophy and adhere to principles is because when you're rooted in principles, it makes it much more difficult for you to get pushed into some opposition movement or reactionary paradigm because you're just so much opposed to the DNC or the deep state or Biden was such a bumbling idiot and their woke policies are so terrible and we see what they're doing with the economy. We can't possibly have Kamla in power. So, we ought to support this opposition person because he's not them and he's better than them. But then a lot of people again when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back, they got swept into this opposition movement and they abandoned their exit and build strategy or whatever it may be. And so, you got to be rooted in that same thing whenever the war came about. That's exact. Me and Zack, I guess, think the same way a lot because whenever the whole Iran war stuff was popping off, so many conversations and I foolishly got involved in some debates and stuff on Facebook with people in our local Bastrop County group. There's really no point to it.

[00:39:46]Nobody's learning anything from anybody, but it's like we got to stop the Iranian regime cuz they're terrorists and they just slaughtered a bunch of their citizens and this that and the other.

[00:40:02]And it's like, oh, okay. So, this is coming from like a utilitarian position.

[00:40:06]We got to create greater situations and happiness for the greatest amount of people.

[00:40:13]It's not rooted in any principle like just war theory. What makes a war just?

[00:40:20]Um or what does the US Constitution say about it? Or maybe a war has to be declared by the Congress. Those are some principled positions that we can be rooted in so that when the next war comes about, it's not we got to stop Saddam because he has weapons of mass destruction or Assad, I think it was, gassed his own people in Syria, so we got to go after him. or the Iranian regime just put down a bunch of their citizens when there was this uprising taking place. So, we got to make sure that doesn't happen for the sake of the Iranian people because I tell you what, there's countless regimes in the world right now that treat their people even worse than what Iran did. So, what are your principles? Should we invade them next? Right? So, it's important to be rooted in principles. And I haven't been talking about it as much. And to tell you the truth, I strongly believe that every function government provides can be more effectively, efficiently, and justly provided by the private sector, by business, by entrepreneurship, by mutual aid, by community organization, by churches, by nonprofits, you name it.

[00:41:41]So that's the and and it's rooted in principles again. What are those principles? Well, we can talk about the philosophy of libertarianism or the philosophy of liberty as I call it. There's three key principles.

[00:41:56]You got self ownership which is the foundation. I own myself. Everything is deduced from that. Right? So if I own my body then it's wrong for people to aggress upon me.

[00:42:10]because that would be inflicting harm upon this thing that I own. It would be taking away my ability to do things in life, right? If they were to aggress upon me or put me in a cage, a non-aggression principle.

[00:42:22]It's wrong to initiate aggression against another person. It's wrong to initiate violence or force against another person.

[00:42:31]And that principle ought to be applied equally to all human beings, whether they're a government official or a private person.

[00:42:41]And then third, by virtue of owning myself and the fruits of my labor and and my creative capacity to create things and the idea that no one can aggress upon me, it follows that I ought to be able to voluntarily exchange the fruits of my labor and that which uh that I mix my creative capacity with when I go into the state of nature. what John Lock talks about when it comes to property rights and ownership.

[00:43:12]It follows that I should have a right to that stuff and I can voluntarily exchange that stuff with other people.

[00:43:18]Therefore, taxation is theft and wrong.

[00:43:20]You shouldn't interfere with any economic exchange that I'm involved in.

[00:43:24]And I like to call it voluntary exchange, but also free markets.

[00:43:27]Libertarians believe in free markets.

[00:43:30]All financial exchanges, all trading of goods and services ought to be free and voluntary and absent any third-party influence whether it's government, mafia, you name it. Government is mafia in many ways just with the veil of legitimacy.

[00:43:50]All right? And so that's the philosophy of liberty. And so we root down in a philosophy like this. And then but one problem with the libertarians, one problem with the libertarians nowadays is that there's a tendency to just stay focused on conversations like we've been having today.

[00:44:11]just debating till we're blue in the face and doing all sorts of blogs and videos about philosophy and debating what the libertarian position would be on this and that and the other because there's all sorts of questions I come up with come up with like abortion, right?

[00:44:28]Um, oh, you said you own your body and you have a right to do with your body or put in your body what you please.

[00:44:35]So, wouldn't abortion be moral in a libertarian framework, right? or but then it's like okay well and then you got the non-aggression principle we ought not to aggress against other people and it's like well is a fetus a person or this that and the other and then people just debate about all of that till they're blew in the face I personally think that abortion should be avoided like the plague and I do not believe that it is morally right as an anarchist I don't think that the government should even exist in the first place nor have a position in th in those matters Um, but I'm not a fan by any means. But my point is too, a lot of people just spend their time debating till they're blue in the face. What does a libertarian say about this in an anarchist society? What would happen here, there? Blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile, we don't live in an anarchist society. We got government breathing down our neck all the freaking time.

[00:45:27]So, it's like, okay, we got self ownership. We got non-aggression principle. We got voluntary exchange. We could debate about all these things or we could try to create it. All right.

[00:45:39]And then Samuel Edward Conan the third, the guy that created agorism, revolutionary market anarchism, which essentially is is like the foundation of exit and build strategy.

[00:45:51]Um, and both Derrick Bros and I, Derrick Bros was the first one to communicate exit and build, right? And then I took the concept and I was like, oh, because he was talking about exit this area and build elsewhere or hunker down in this area. And I was like, well, exit and build, that could also be applied to like everything. Exit banking and create crypto, right? But both of us like our our strategy, our strategic thinking was rooted in Samuel Edward Conan's agorism.

[00:46:17]And so some people just debate and argue and do podcasts and blogs about philosophy. That doesn't get us anywhere. But we do need to have a principled foundation, but we don't need to debate about it for years on end.

[00:46:33]Like come up with your principles and your philosophy and let's create that type of life for you and others.

[00:46:40]Hopefully you agree with my principles and we can collaborate on creating that together. And if not, then maybe we should have a decentralized world where you can do your thing over here and we could do our thing over here. Um, but it sure would be hard to know that there's ugly things happening in the world, but I don't know that we're ever going to be free of that. Anyway, so we can debate about it till we're blue in the face, or we could say, well, let's do something about it. And Samuel Conan's main critique with the libertarian movement many decades ago was, hey, they're trying to create free freedom through statist means by involving themselves in politics. There's an inconsistency there and they're not going to get to where they want to be by using political means. So here's where we are with the exit and build solutions focused movement. If we want to create a free society, we need to use means that are consistent with the philosophy of liberty. Or in other words, as Samuel Ronin said, it's the consistent application of the philosophy of liberty that creates the free society.

[00:47:47]consistent application of philosophy of liberty that creates the free society and that's what we do with exit and build. So we take these principles and we ask ourselves how can we live in a world that aligns with these principles and if we can't do it wholesale across the board across the entirety of society in the United States or across the globe then we ought to carve out little pockets of freedom where we can at least hope to achieve a life that's as in alignment with these principles as absolutely possible. And that's why I'm such an advocate for the creation of these regenerative communities in the private realm. Because if we are to achieve this, I do believe that's the most practical and effective way for us to get out of the cities which were more easily controlled in, which were much more surveiled, which are eventually going to turn into these hardcore smart city interconnected node of communication signal tied to your phone, tied to your implantable chip, whatever it may be. I don't know.

[00:48:50]It's I don't who knows how bad and how fast this is going to happen. It's happening pretty fast already if you ask me with the flock cameras. Oh boy oh boy. Thank god there's this massive opposition to those a huge movement rising around them.

[00:49:02]So then it's like what do we do there?

[00:49:05]Okay, let's get out of the city and into the country and let's live in close proximity to other freedom people and build and trade and connect.

[00:49:16]The most ideal would be let's live on the same land for those people together.

[00:49:21]Let's live in the same land with one another and then let's connect with other people living on land nodes or in close proximity even if they happen to be way down the street and other way other places and it's through that that I believe we can achieve the greatest freedom the consistent application of the philosophy of liberty hopefully we can achieve these micro societies aligned with those principles and when the micro societies the micro communities organiz organiz into a parallel society with our own parallel economy. Hopefully one day we can carve out some semblance of freedom.

[00:49:57]All right, let me hit some questions and some comments here because I see mani mani mani mani is commenting and we got Ufulu child in the house opposing communism. I'm not sure what that was in reference to but yes we most definitely oppose communism.

[00:50:14]It is way antithetical to these principles. That's for sure. And it's not like the Trump faction and the Trump movement was opposing communism and the communist DNC. That's all just a red herring dog and pony show. It's all just authoritarianism.

[00:50:31]All right. A fulu child. Absolutely. If there's no object objective morality that freedom people or truth seeeking truth and freedom seeeking families and individuals are moving for uh forum and that is inspiring every action they take. That's right. Yeah. come up with some rooted principles. And I know uh Fulu Child and our and our friend Jerry and a lot of folks come uh out of the Mark Pacio universe too are aligned with that whole world and and there's a very strong uh adherence to objective morality. Uh there's a lot of people too that'll just debate that till you're blew in the face. We could there's a lot of people in that movement, too, that are just debating what objective morality is and what what is objective morality and what's not and why it's so important. It's like, all right, I got it. I got it. But yes, we ought to have and adhere to objective moral principles. And the Christian framework is also an objective moral framework. uh it doesn't sway and sway with the times but it's like this is our foundation and this is what we build from but we don't just stay debating it we try to build a society that's aligned with it that is our challenge uh Sigma says abortion is literally murder I would agree um then whatever is built cannot last time to break generational cycles of disempowerment let's go Okay. And now here comes a lot of questions too like when did Ryan maniti maniti maniti maniti maniti maniti how do we fight data centers without using local government? All right so maybe we have to get practical. Um one of the things I was going to point out earlier was like okay and here's where all the debates come up because we have these foundational principles and then it's like okay well what about defending our borders so to speak. All right. And and what about preserving cultural tendencies? And there's a whole podcast or whatever that could be done on. Is it good to have a culturally homogeneous society? And notice when I say cultural, I don't necessarily mean racial per se, but like adhering to a strong culture. Um because one of the things I pic I don't want to go down this rabbit hole right now actually but when it comes to defense of a common folk um Americans for example or uh the Franks or whatever like how do we defend our nation state from external threats if if we don't have government?

[00:53:12]Okay. And so again, just one quick answer to that and then I'll answer Ryan's thing about data centers, which isn't an easy answer by any means, nor is this answer. It's like you don't necessarily need a national government or a central government to raise up a central army because we know what happens with standing armies and the original founding fathers were in opposition to standing armies. Then the United States government ended up having one of the biggest standing armies ever that's now inflicting itself and impressing itself upon so many different foreign territories and foreign people.

[00:53:41]But it's like you could have these micro nations or micro tribes. And again, you can have a system of governance that's voluntary that people opt into. And one thing that would dramatically increase the uh delivery of services, good services that a government could provide uh would be if people could opt into it. I choose to align with this system. I believe that this is a good set of rules. This system is good at protecting and creating peace within its uh jurisdiction and that jurisdiction doesn't necessarily have to be territorial or physical. You can have a system that you align with which is like we could create this whole freedom cell network or whatever where it's like hey I'm a member of the freedom cell network a private member of the freedom cell network whatever you want to call it and and I'm a card carrying member a du's paying member you would have to pay into it it's not taxation because it's not coercive and then you're like well oh well you're a member too so I know if we're going to do business this is what Samuel Ronin and many other anarchist thinkers talk about when it comes to deeper questions like how can an anarchist society actually function and they say when two people do business with one another they're also doing business with each of their insurance agency for example and if you if you bulk at insurance agency then we'll just call them risk uh minimization organizations how about that risk minimization organization so party A is collaborating now with party B and party A and party Both being members of the Freedom Network, they know that in order to do business in this network and in order to enter into contracts with other people that are also part of this network, each one of them has to be in good standing, which means that they have a risk minimization organization that they work with and another risk minimization organization that they work with. And maybe there's competing risk minimization organizations or maybe there's one or two or I don't really know there probably be multiple and it's like okay we're going to do business together and we can expect that if if party B screws over party A then party B's risk minimization organization is going to penalize them or eventually boot them out of having the RMO and then now they're rejected and nobody wants to do business with them. This is how things could look. Um, so you could have microorganizations and then those microorganizations could confederate and combine together and say, well, we know that there's an external threat from a nation state, from a waring tribe, from these other cultural group of people and they want to come try to take our resources and harm our territory. So rather than having a central government, we want to have these aligned, integrated, connected, collaborative, contractually aligned, smaller, micro nations, micro governmental organizations, micro societies that are going to defend one another. This has happened before. It was called the Henziatic League and it was around the Mediterranean, I believe.

[00:56:57]Um, there's been confederations before.

[00:57:00]That's how the United States, that's how the Americans won the American Revolution, they had a confederation.

[00:57:06]There wasn't a a central government at the time. Um, but then they, one of the reasons why they formed the central government and abandon the articles confederation so they could have the taxing authority to raise a standing army so they could fend off a potential future attack from Great Britain come to try to take things. So I don't know what history would have looked like if they would have not taken the central government route and adhered to the weak confederation uh articles of confederation and still maintained 13 separate and distinct nations. Each of them had a government by the way nonetheless a state I should say a state. We're not against governance or an institution of governance. We're against the state an institution which enjoys a geographic monopoly on the initiation of violence. Now, what do we do about flock cameras? What do we do about data centers? Now, this one's extremely challenging and I got to be honest, there's some fights that are like like pract like practically we're trying to avoid pragmatism, right? But like if I were a betting man, which I am, I like to play no limit Texas hold.

[00:58:19]If I were a betting man, which I am, I would bet that we are not going to be able to stop these data centers in most jurisdictions at all.

[00:58:31]Is it worth a fight? I don't know. And then so it comes down to practical question. All right. Well, we're anarchists. We're agorists. So should we not use government ever?

[00:58:41]Well, originally before I abandoned government altogether, I abandoned federal politics.

[00:58:47]total dog and pony show. Total fraud, total BS, totally corrupt, doesn't represent you in the least bit, blah blah blah blah blah. And you know, same thing with state government in most political jurisdictions, but then you have a place like New Hampshire, the Free State Project, where people are actually rolling back the size and scope of government. The Free State Project in New Hampshire, they're essentially there's a bunch of libertarian Republicans that have largely influenced the government. A bunch of them are elected. Uh, in fact, last I checked, there's a guy that may become the speaker of the house, Jason Osborne, who is part of the Free State Project.

[00:59:27]Now, I don't know all the inner workings and the politics of the Free State Project movement or the New Hampshire legislature, but I do know just from observation that he himself has his pragmatism has undermined his original principles, I would say, because he's not as much of a philosophical libertarian that adheres to the philosophy of liberty, as we discussed today, as he once was. He's become more conservative, which there's a tendency to happen when you get involved with government.

[00:59:58]So it's not to say that there isn't value in it in the lease bit. And for the for the longest time, even though I was an anarchist voluntarist pushing hard for exit and build strategy, I also would hold also like, okay, well, there could still be a place perhaps when it comes to cannabis decriminalization.

[01:00:17]Notice I said decriminalization, not legalization. Legalization has turned out to be a total fraud, but decriminalization.

[01:00:24]Or perhaps when it comes to pushing back on fluidation of water like San Marcus, Texas, remove the water from the fluoride. In a political action committee I was a part of, Texansburg per accountable government um played a big role in that. So our good friend Justin Arman uh down in St. Marcus, he he in large part led the charge.

[01:00:42]Um okay. And then when it comes to flock and data centers, there may very well be value in utilizing government to push back on those institutions. I think it's a massive uphill battle. I think if somebody were to get involved, they would really have to know the game and how to play the game, which is an entirely different story. Um, which I believe I have a lot of value to add to because I played that game for a while and we played that game pretty damn well. Uh, it's not an easy game to play.

[01:01:15]It's an ugly game. It's a very ugly ugly game to play. But there's no other way to rid data centers. The only other option, the only other option, I guess, three options. One, political channels, legal battles.

[01:01:33]And then it's the thing where it's like, okay, so the data center doesn't get put in your area, which is highly unlikely.

[01:01:40]I think I know why Ryan's asking this, too.

[01:01:44]We got data centers coming all over the place here in Bastrop County. In fact, we sold our 10acre homestead not too long ago, but there was a data center.

[01:01:52]There's a data center now that's on 2,000 plus acres. They're still talking about it and debating about it, but Elon Musk is in this town and like Austin, Texas is trying to be a Silicon Valley kind of vibe. I don't think that the county governments, especially this close to Austin, Bastrop's right next to Travis County where Austin is, I don't think that they're going to want to upset all of the money and resources and jobs and taxes and friendly deals behind the doors and land deals. A lot of these politicians, the good old boy network, they buy land in certain areas like even a generation before ahead of time, but at least 10 years, decades ahead. And then they know that in the future because their family has political influence or their best friend or the guy that they went to the fraternity with or their buddy in law school is involved in city government or county government or state government.

[01:02:55]They know that whenever they create the next comprehensive plan for the land planning scenario, they're going to shift some of that development into this territory in this area. So, thank God we already bought 4,000 acres up there, whatever it may be. It's an uphill battle for damn sure. And even if you stop it in this small little area here, it's not going to be stopped wholeheartedly. It's like it's coming.

[01:03:20]Um, which is why it's good to be in the middle of nowhere ultimately. Geez Louise.

[01:03:28]But yeah, obviously the most effective way to do that is the political channels and then you have like just change the culture entirely to where everybody rejects it. That's not going to happen.

[01:03:38]It's an uphill battle. Unfortunately, we you I use AI, you know, so it's like, all right, well get a bunch of people not to use AI. Okay, there's already a lot of people using it, but there's more people that are going to be using it.

[01:03:52]It's very small number of people that are using it right now, but it's people that are moving and shaking and in business and have money and have influence in large part. Uh, and it's younger people that are coming up into these positions of power and authority.

[01:04:06]And then the other thing is uh I don't know if we should say this out loud but it's like sabotaging monkey wrenching which is what seems to be being successful with these flock cameras right now. Um but in order to do something like that with the data center that's a huge effort and we're not advocating that YouTube al algorithm not for destruction or destroying things or property destruction or theft or any of that stuff I should say. Um although it is really cool to see what's happening with the flock cameras. Definitely going to say that. So yeah, it's it it's it's political battle. That's what would be the bene the way to roll back the data centers. But in all honesty, I don't think that it's going to be successful. And so to bring it back and I'm going to hit some more of these questions. We're already over time here.

[01:04:56]I was planning to wrap up early because I didn't want to just ramble and rant and rave, but it looks like more people showed up halfway through the presentation than before. Now, we got a bunch of great comments here, so I'm going to hit these as quick as I can. Um, one thing that I I noticed more recently, and it was about flock cameras was something I was thinking. It was like, okay, a bunch of effort gets put into a certain area stopping flock cameras. Because let's just talk about the United States, for example. We're not going to stop them at the federal level. And I doubt there's ever going to be a state that bans flock cameras in your state. So, the best you can do is try to get a local jurisdiction, whether it's a city or a county, to oppose them in some way. And even that's going to be a challenge. All right. All this effort and energy goes into doing that. In the meantime, A, B, C. So, let's say that's A. Flock cameras are A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, and L. they've all accelerated and moved forward. And also like in this little tiny jurisdiction here, everything is still happening out here. So it's like I get it and you got to understand like in order to put an opposition together on the data center if it's not already happening and you're the one that has to lead it, you got to really know what you're doing. And you may even need to put together like a political action committee or some sort of 50c4 organization.

[01:06:22]um 501c4 organization. I think that's what it is. Know what it is? 501c4.

[01:06:29]Yeah, it's like a nonprofit that can do some political advocacy. Um or a political action committee or you may need to be like we're going to have to run some candidates and and this could take a while, but then the thing's already built, you know? or like if your city or your county has initiative and referendum where you go out and get a petition and then that puts it on a ballot and then it's decided, that could be another thing, too. But to collect enough signatures in order to put something on the ballot takes a whole lot of time, a whole lot of money. So, it's kind of like you're going to have to raise the money to make this a full-time thing, unless you're already independently wealthy. It's a whole lot of effort. And in the time and energy and money it takes to do that, which is what we did, we did raise money. We did participate in initiative referendum campaigns and we did push back on police state fusion center police blood withdrawals and all sorts of things and tried to get the floor out of the water for so long and it was successful in San Marcus was not successful in Austin a major city and it's like it took all this time all this effort all this money all this attention meanwhile government expanded technocracy expanded which brings me back to my original position the number one thing we can be doing and it doesn't mean that you can't be doing other things But if we are to be doing anything, we should be creating the parallel economy, par parallel society and especially have them in rural rural areas and Bastrop County ain't rural enough apparently.

[01:07:54]maybe eastern side of Bastrop County, but maybe it needs to go out into Faget County and know like I live in Bastrop County now, but I'm so grateful that I'm a partner and trustee on the Haven Village project because there ain't very many major cities near Old Fort, Tennessee, thankfully.

[01:08:11]And there's very there's no flock cameras in that small town and there's like one or two in the neighboring town of Cleveland. Soon to be more, but 216 acres in the middle of nowhere, it's a pretty damn good place for freedom. And I would love to carve out some more places for freedom here in central Texas. I guess Bastrop County ain't cutting it. That's not to say it's still not a great place to live and I'm not really grateful to live here um and enjoy living here. But um I think that it's most important that we create the parallel society, the parallel economy, the alternative institutions, the cryptocurrency, the decentralized network, the trade systems and infrastructure, the encrypted communication, the food network, the grow your own food on the ranch and share it with your friends, yada yada yada. Because we got to start raising children outside of that system or we're just going to be caught in a constant reactionary paradigm and we got to like carve out little jurisdictions of sovereignty. I don't know what it it looks like exactly and it's just like this is life. This is the struggle. It it's u the price of liberty's eternal vigilance. This is our lives. Our children will will inherit the struggle.

[01:09:15]Hopefully, we can instill our principles in them and they want to continue the effort or they'll just want to enjoy life and that's okay too because a lot of people don't enjoy life in our movement unfortunately.

[01:09:28]Interesting how more rural areas are being targeted with extreme storms and fires. I don't I'm not one that thinks all of these mass weather events are always manufactured. That's not to say that they aren't, but I think many of them um aren't.

[01:09:47]Uh, hey John, I I noticed that since 2022 onwards, you've lent more into your Christian faith, and I know you've always had a libertarian motivation, but can you tell me how this has changed?

[01:09:56]Uh, neither. I've just become more Christian and more and like tried to create a libertarian society the whole time. I don't think that they're not in alignment. Um there's a lot of great thinkers like this guy named Norman Horn runs an organization called Libertarian Christians. Um you can be a libertarian and a Christian. So it's not that my Christianity is taken away from my libertarianism. I do believe though there's a lot of libertarian and if we are to have a moral foundation that moral foundation should be rooted in Christian principles and the teachings of Jesus Christ and and then the libertarian is the political framework as in how do we relate to one another politically as far as exchange goes and organiz organization of society really that's it I But really, how we relate to one another in a relationship, how we relate to ourselves, how we relate to the divine, I'm aligned with the Christian principles especially.

[01:10:57]And it's like you can have a free society and still have a bunch of a-holes that treat each other poorly.

[01:11:02]And that's not necessarily out of alignment with libertarianism, but it would be out of alignment with Christian principles to treat each other poorly and to not be forgiving of others. Does it challenge you? Certainly Christianity made a reframe of a lot of my ideas and questioning the nature of my own life.

[01:11:21]Most definitely question the nature of your life and reframe a lot of the ideas and be extremely grateful for Christ and then people that adhere to Christian teachings.

[01:11:36]And to tell you the truth, one thing that I've really resonated with cuz I made a lot of mistakes in my life and I treated people poorly and and then there's people that are like gossipy and judgmental and and don't like me anymore apparently and talk behind my back, people that I was close with or that just don't want to associate with me.

[01:11:57]And that is hard for me. And then there's people that I know that understand the mistakes I made or how I treated poorly or or have heard some of the same things that were shared and they're like true Christians and they're like, "I forgive you, brother." And I know that we all up and that we can repent and we can become better versions of ourselves. And so when it comes to Christianity, that's something that I really And it's not just Christians that show up that way, but it is especially Christians that show up that way. And just like not all libertarians are good people, not all Christians are good folks either. Uh maybe they're Christian in name only.

[01:12:35]We need to keep our cultural heritages.

[01:12:38]That's what predators are trying to erase. That's for sure. How to exit the matrix while we're building something parallel even though we are not the majority in the new world. Disorder has most of the power and money. Well, we're not going to be the majority. We just got to keep at it. We got to find others. There's so many of us out there.

[01:12:55]We got to keep on keeping on and there's enough of us out there to build the free society.

[01:13:04]We just got to connect. All right, guys.

[01:13:07]I'm going to There's no way to beat these guys with all the resources they have. Well, then what are you going to do, Sigma?

[01:13:15]Like I said, like this is life. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

[01:13:19]So, it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. There's no way to beat these guys. So, we give up or do we just give it a wholehearted effort and make it our lives some kind of virtuous struggle? Um or or like if you just live, are you going to be able to be happy? Ignorance is bliss. And just ignore it because you're not ignoring it. You're watching the show right now and you're complaining about it. So you either ignore it, go about your life, try to disconnect and try to enjoy the life to best your ability. If that's the case, more power to you. We ought to be enjoying life. Or you take part in the animating contest of freedom and that could be enjoyable as well. But it's like it's not beat them wholeheartedly where they go away. It's how can we achieve the greatest amount of freedom in an unfree society.

[01:14:12]The predators will push through whatever the public serpents want.

[01:14:16]Yeah, I mean they're pushing it through.

[01:14:18]I just know increasingly realizing this technocracy is pushing us away from God and his plan for us towards tyranny.

[01:14:22]What a new friend calls the predator class. Yeah, I call them the predator class, too. Great uh comments everybody.

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[01:14:59]Central. Uh, today was just riffing, ranting, and raving. I think I hit a good cadence and a good groove there towards the middle or after the first third of it or so. But, uh, that was a post that inspired me. It's political philosophy, understanding the philosophy of liberty, the philosophy of of freedom. Um, it's important. It's important to have principles. Your principles don't have to be the same as mine, but you ought to have principles.

[01:15:23]Uh, take a take a book out take a page out of the the New Testament uh from from Christ and his story and his principles and his teaching. Take a case out of a page out old Murray Rothbard.

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