Dr. Taylor provides a practical, evidence-based roadmap that correctly prioritizes muscle mass and long-term management over quick weight loss. This approach successfully reframes metabolic health as a lifelong commitment rather than a temporary fix.
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GLP1 Q AND A with Pat Taylor, MD
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Hello everybody. Welcome. We are joined today by Dr. Pat Taylor, the see the chief medical officer over at Bell Health. And we're going to talk all about >> Hello.
>> Hello. We're going to talk uh maintenance today as well as any other questions that you guys have. You want to >> Yeah. Nice to meet everyone. I'm Dr. Taylor. I'm chief of health. Um, I do a lot of GLP-1 and menopause and peptide education on social media. Uh, so on my YouTube and my Tik Tok and my, uh, Instagram and I'm super happy to be here. This is our second live. Second live together.
>> Third live. Yeah. Third.
>> Yeah. And so you guys always have so many great questions. Um, uh, the great thing is, uh, many of you follow are >> we're getting some feedback from your your mic. I don't know if it's the chair or what, but I'm hearing some like rustling. Is anybody else hearing that?
Or maybe it's just me.
>> Are you still hearing rustling?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Interesting. Let me might be better to just switch. Let's do this.
>> Yes, it says they're wearing it as well.
>> Oh, actually, let's do this. I figured it out what it is. It's It needs to be my AirPods. Okay. Is that better?
>> Yes. At the moment.
>> Okay. Yes. I think the microphone was trying to do something funny.
>> Okay.
Sounds like his scrubs. That's what they're saying. I thought it was your chair.
>> I think it connected to my phone. I think it was my phone in my pocket. But can everyone hear me better now? Yes.
>> Oh, like it was interfering with the two things. Yeah, you're probably right.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. So, tell start over. Introduce yourself again because there >> Yeah, I'll start over. I'm Dr. Taylor, chief medical officer of Bell and I am a menopause certified practitioner specialize in both obesity and metabolic uh medic medicine but also menopause medicine. And I know that many of Britney's followers are permenopausal or menopausal women. And I love to advocate and give education and help for that. Um I'm not your medical provider and this is just for education entertainment purposes, but I'm happy to be here.
>> Yeah, perfect. We're glad to have you.
Um, so guys, we're gonna start off with a little bit of a maintenance type chat because there's been a lot of you very curious about maintenance recently, more so where to go once you hit that number on the scale, right? Like what do I do now? I've achieved this goal. What am I supposed to do now? Now, I will say because I know this is going to come, there are going to be some questions about the sale that Bell has going on.
Please hold those till the end and I will let Dr. Taylor hop off and then I will answer those questions for you because I'm sure he doesn't really even know that much about it anyway. Right, Dr. You know what? I just kind of show up and um people tell me things and I say, "Sounds good." Um so, >> hold on to the end and [clears throat] I'll let you hop off after his [cough] and I'll answer all those questions for you. So, Dr. Taylor posted a video, if you have not watched it, definitely should on his channel uh two days ago on maintenance and kind of explaining who needs to sound therapy long term, what it could be good for long term, micro doing. He talked the sword about all of it. And Dr. Taylor, I will say that in the beginning of that video, you were very much you kind of were, I thought, edging the other way, like we can get off, just change your lifestyle, yada yada. And then then towards the end, I was like, okay, he came back around, he he and back together. Um, so kind of talk to us about that because a lot of us have this sort of fear of what do we do once we hit that goal? What are we supposed to do then?
>> Yeah, absolutely. I think it's it's a really important discussion to have with patients. Um, and if a if a provider is just putting somebody on the highest possible dose that they can tolerate and then saying good luck and then when it's when they reach their goal weight stopping them, I think they're doing them a big disservice. Um the surmount to maintain trial um showed that when people went down to a five milligram dose of tursepide they maintain the weight better and the cardiometabolic factors better than those who stopped.
Um, and so, uh, I think that's really important is just like the data is clear that the maintenance doses and getting on a dose that helps you with your food noise, helps you with your appetite, and can be a more of a long-term solution is likely better than just stopping. And in my own clinical practice, I have done exactly that. I will get people up to a tolerable dose where they're losing anywhere from two to four pounds a week and then uh you know max um and then to slowly decrease the dose until they reach a point where they're being able to maintain and meet their goals otherwise. And that doesn't just mean weight. That means like do they have the energy that they need? Are they able to eat um as enough protein that they need?
Um, and then the other thing is what are you doing for the long term, which I'll touch on in a minute. But, um, I think that's the discussion that has to be had um, when it comes to maintenance. Um, because I think it's a disservice to say like, oh, you reach your goal weight, so stop. That's like saying, oh, you reach your goal weight, so stop exercising.
>> Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Um, so, so once we hit that that number on the scale, how can we continue to improve longevity and wellness and health because it's so much more than just a number, right? And especially as us middle-aged women finally hit this goal weight, but we're still struggling with all these other things. Like, what do we do after that?
[clears throat] >> So, I will I'm going to take it from a non-medication standpoint to start. So when you look at longevity and metabolic health, a the most important factor is your muscle mass. So building skeletal muscle mass over a long period of time because it takes so much longer. Like if you're a very beginner lifter, lifting weights, resistance training, eating enough protein, you can maybe put on 5 to 10 pounds of muscle in a year of consistent training. and then it's like 3 to 5 lbs in the next year and 1 to 3 lb. So for most people you're going to be around 3 to 5 lbs in a year of muscle.
And so I think that's really important to have that um that mindset of like this is going to take a long time. But by starting with it is if there's one thing that's the most important even if you stay on the same dose that you're on for your weight loss and maintain but you're focusing on building muscle that is the most important thing you can do for your health and longevity to help maintain that weight.
>> Okay.
Um Okay. So essentially switching over to treating your metabolism better, right?
Because we build more muscle, we end up with a better metabolism overall. Metab.
Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. So one thing that I've been hearing a lot recently, I've heard I even heard Tiffany say this where when we carrying around 50 to 100 extra pounds of weight, right, in the beginning, >> we're quote unquote muscle training already, right? Or weight training already because we're carrying around 100 pounds in everything that we do. Is there truth to that?
Yes, there is there is good data actually that some of the lean mass loss from weight loss is actually more associated likely with just the fact that you're carrying around less weight.
Um you're not pushing your muscles to carry around more weight um that you were doing before. Um, and so I think it's I think there is definitely some truth to that and there's truth to the fact that whether you're on a GLP-1 or you're just purely in a calorie deficit, you will lose lean mass. About 20 to 30% of the weight that you lose is going to be lean muscle mass. Um, and that's whether or not you are using a GLP-1 or just a calorie deficit. And in order to help combat that, you do need to be eating enough protein and you do need to be resistance training, meaning doing some sort of weightlifting, pushing your clust muscles close to failure.
>> So no matter what we're doing in maintenance, resistance training is an a must essentially whether you stay on the GLP1 or whether you don't stay on GP1.
Now, one thing you mentioned in that video was that you yourself have actually utilized like some micro doing, which I don't think I knew that before I watched that video. [clears throat] Um, and you were talking about how you struggled with food noise, which I think was very um, relatable to mention, right? Because a lot of people look at look at healthcare providers and then they're like, "Oh, they're perfect." And, you know, they don't struggle with anything. So, I think it was good that you mentioned that, but that's the fear that a lot that I'm hearing a lot from people. So, can we talk about that a little bit? this fear that once you hit maintenance, even if you stay on your GLP-1, there is going to be some hunger return, which I myself have seen some hunger return and that cravings, food noise will come back a little bit. And how are we going to handle that?
>> Yeah. Um, so 100% I have utilized micro doing for food noise for myself. I lost 100 pounds with diet and exercise and and it was hard. Like I was just like restricting my calories and training every day, sometimes twice a day for three years in order to lose that 100 pounds. And I just recently last year started micro doing a JLP1 to help me with food noise because I am a I'm a very type A person, you know, as most doctors are. Like I'm a very high achieving person. I want to be successful. I want to, but I also have six kids and have high stress. Um, and it's so interesting. I started doing it during my last cut. You know, I'm kind of a little bit of a gym bro, so I like bulk and cut and try and build muscle.
And on my last cut, I was like, I want to not have to track every single calorie to do this well.
>> And so, I did more of an intuitive eating calorie deficit and started micro doing a GLP-1. And it was amazing how once I reach re reached a therapeutic dose for myself in that micro dose, I didn't have food noise. I just ate when I was hungry. And it was like the first time in my entire life. I'm 32 years old. The first time in my entire life that I ever felt like I could just eat when I was hungry and not think about what I just ate, not think about what I was eating later, not thinking what I eat this weekend, what like planning those meals. Like I've never known what it's like to not have my brain doing that all the time. And it's funny because my wife will tell me, she's like, "You are a like better husband, better father because you have more patience. You're more creative in your work. You're more focused in your work."
And she she's like, "I think it's just because you're not your brain's not like pinging around for food." Um, which is just incredible, right?
>> Yeah. And I don't know about you, but I also was somebody that every time I would try to go into a caloric deficit and restrict what I was eating within like a day, it made me mad. Like I was raging. Um like I I just did not want to have to do it and it just frustrated me so much and then I would end up binging and eating because you know telling I'm the type of person that if you tell me I can't have something then I'm going to want it. So me telling myself you you can only have 1,200 calories a day or whatever I was doing at that time did not go over well for me. So I can definitely relate to like the more patience just being a better person overall because you have space in your brain for other things, right?
>> Yeah. And you know just from just from like a coaching standpoint, I used to do run a weight loss coaching business while I was in medical school actually after I had lost the weight I wanted to help other people and I didn't have an MD at that point and so I was just focusing on helping people with their lifestyle. And my biggest thing to this day is focus on what you can add in before you focus on what you can cut out. Because if you focus on adding in lean protein, if you focus on adding in fiber and high high volume, lowc calorie foods and you focus on adding in resistance training and step count and water and sleep, you're so focused on what you can add in, you're not going to be able to focus on, oh, I need to cut out crumble or I need to cut out the sugar and I need to cut out this. And it's a little bit more of an abundance mindset with weight loss and overall health.
>> Yeah, I agree. I'm going to add this comment to the stage because I think it was it was really good from Christie.
When you say resistance training to almost >> muscle fatigue, if your muscles are that exhausted, how do you recover for activities of daily living for the rest of the day?
>> Yeah. So, let me clarify this. So, the data is really good on muscle. There's been some recent systematic reviews that have been published in the last few years that look at um what actually matters for building muscle. And I think this is so important for parmenopausal women because you will lose muscle as you go through menopause and you will have more insulin resistance and you will have more inflammation and you will have more visceral fat and building muscle combats all of that. So, the the two biggest things when it comes to muscle growth, and you don't need to be a bodybuilder, you don't need to be, you know, these big jacked muscles, but you do need to focus on building muscle because if you don't focus on building it, it will go down every 1 to 2% every year over the age of 60. So, to focus on building muscle, you need two things. Progressive overload and treat um lifting to failure. And that can be with bands, it can be with free weights, it can be with machines, it it can be with Pilates, it doesn't matter. And what I tell most people is if you're lifting weights three times a week, four times a week, you should be doing your major muscle groups in those.
So whether it's an upper, lower, upper, lower, whether it's, you know, push pull legs, you know, working your chest and your arms and your legs and your shoulders. Um, and kind of in a rotation to where you're not working your shoulders seven times a week. Um, but close to failure means you could maybe do one to two more reps. And that doesn't mean every single time. It means majority of the time. So like for me, for example, thighs, back and tries, shoulders and legs. Let's say that's the the split.
Um, on my chest day I am going super super hard one week and then on my back day I'm going not as hard because I'm just too exhausted from the week before or from the day before. So the point is over a long period of time have you push each muscle group close to failure you know once every other week once every week. But as you work different muscle groups you are going to work like if you're doing chest you're also doing a little bit of shoulders. So, it's a little bit of exercise physiology there, but the goal is get close to failure and progressive overload, meaning either increasing the amount of reps you can do at a certain weight or the amount of weight that you can do at a certain reps over time. When it comes to recovery, you have to be getting enough protein and taking creatine is one of the best things you can do. And then sleep. When it comes to recovery, those are the two three biggest things. You need to be eating a sufficient amount of protein, which for most people is over 100 grams of protein a day. creatine monohydrate, five grams a day. It's a cheap supplement. It's very effective. It doesn't cause hair loss. It doesn't cause kidney problems. All of that is fake. Everyone should be taking that.
It's great for mood, cognitive performance, all those things. And then the third is sleep. If you're not getting at least 7 to eight hours of sleep for women before the age of 40, 8 to n hours of sleep is actually optimal.
For women over the age of 40, it's more like 7 to eight. And for women over the age of 60, um it's more like six to seven. And that's just how age works.
But those are the things that are going to help you recover the best.
>> Do you have a brand of creatine you recommend? I just saw Christie pop that question.
>> Yeah, I I personally have used Neutriost. I'm working on Belle getting our own that I like. Um but um Neutriost is a cheap option as a like on Amazon.
It's got like five 100 servings for like 30 bucks. Um, and you're doing one serving a day. So, you know, a third of the year you've taken care of with one supply. Um, any >> it's not >> it's cheap. It's not something that you There is a ton of different types of creatine out there that people are going to tell you is absorbed better and does better and all those things. Don't believe the hype. Creatine monohydrate is all you need.
I think it's good to emphasize the fact that women could do well on creatine as well because a lot of the people that you hear talking about creatine are the gym bros, right? And so I think there's a lot of women that this gets asked a couple times a day in my Facebook group like should we be taking creatine? What is it? Is it going to help us as women?
So it will I guess.
>> Absolutely. So I and uh there was there was a question um about I may have lost >> oh Sunshine said she uses major cost as well.
>> Yeah. Awesome. Um as far as just like reasons to use creatine like it helps with cognitive performance. It actually decreases risk of depression. It increases cellular energy production which is why it helps with um cognitive performance and muscle um recovery. Um, uh, the Neutri Cast is it tastes like nothing. And they I think they have a blue raspberry flavor as well, but you just you just fix it.
>> So, it's like a powderish or like an pre-workout type thing. Okay.
>> Yeah. It's like a pre-workout type powder. Um, but it's it's flavorless.
Um, the reason I would say women, especially permenopausal women, would benefit so much more from it is the same reason why I I say that permenopausal women would benefit from NAD, glutathione, and serone. It's because it acts at a cellular level to increase cellular energy. And what many permenopausal women struggle with is you either have insulin resistance, inflammation or mitochondrial def um inefficiency.
And meaning like you don't produce enough cellular energy or DNA or proteins to like which causes aging.
All of those things help treat the underlying causes of those, right? So creatine helps increase ATP production.
NAD helps increase AT production and activates uh serotonin genes and antioxidants. Glutathione is the most powerful antioxidant we have in our body and it helps with reducing reactive oxidative species that cause inflammation. Um GLP1's obviously help treat the insulin resistance. And then serarellin is a growth hormone secret and what it does is it naturally increases your growth hormone secretion and acts on the cell at a macro level to increase cellular output. um can help with muscle growth and it can help with bone health and it can help with decreasing visceral fat, which visceral fat is the the fat around your organs that increases inflammation and increases insulin resistance. And so that's why attacking it at a cellular level and a macro level is actually like so effective.
>> H interesting. Okay, I'm going to add this one too because I think this is a good question.
Jent says, "Would some of the muscle mass reduction be attributed to the loss of fat marbling inside the muscle tissue?" And then my DEXA scanned, "I only lost seven pounds of lean mass of the 107 pounds I've lost."
>> Wow, that's really impressive. Um, the short answer is it depends on how that was measured. So, um, you have a few different ways to measure body composition. You have DEXA scans, which are seem to be the gold standard. You have bod pods. You have inbodies. you have, you know, skin testing. And so it depends on what method was used to look at it. So if your DEXA showed that you only lost seven pounds of lean mass, um, that's really impressive. Um, and yes, the DEXA can identify fat within muscle.
Um, and so it is just so much more sensitive. Um, so to be able to do that is really impressive, you know, like I like for example like lost five pounds of lean mass on my last cut that I did, which was about a 30 lb 40 lb change.
Um, so you know, 40 divid%, right? Yeah.
>> Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You're better at math than me. This is why pharmacy >> um and I I focus on protein. I eat 200 grams of protein a day. I use creatine um and weightlift heavy, right? And so um even even that like me doing all of that, I'm not immune to that lean lean muscle mass loss.
[snorts] >> Um Lis said, "Do these things apply to menopause and postmenopausal stages? And by the I mean peptides and creatine mentioned >> it all applies to us menopause, we're doomed."
Yes, you're you're probably the people who benefit the most. Um, yeah, absolutely. Um, [clears throat] I know there was another question about maintenance. Oh, here it is from just Sherry.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Um, >> I don't know how you make it pop up.
Yeah, you're [laughter] >> there. In maintenance, is it best to stay on the highest dose you reach? also in maintenance. If suppression is not optimal and frowns return, is it okay to go up on dose? Absolutely. Absolutely.
Um because here's the reality. Um if if you are maintaining your weight, the dose doesn't matter, right? Um so you should not be obviously on a high enough dose to be being nauseous and not having an appetite at all. Um, and there is an amount of I think what's really important to address here is what is truly food noise and what is truly biological hunger, right? And I think one thing I will say that we may have gone, you know, the or society may have swung too far with the the with the popularity of GOP ones is some people think all food noise is bad.
Meaning all thoughts about food are bad, right? Like, oh, it got rid of my food noise. But it's okay to have cravings.
It's okay to have thoughts about food when you're going to eat anything. It's when it becomes detrimental to your weight loss and your health. Right.
>> When you can't control it, when you have no control.
>> Exactly. Exactly. It's like if you're noticing that it goes away after you eat a high protein, high volume meal uh with, you know, whole real foods, it's not it's not food noise. It's hunger.
It's biological hunger. and you need that to survive. Um, and and I think that's a really challenging thing and like one that I can empathize with is because I personally like really struggle with that because if you've had a weight loss journey and you've had to restrict your food before, when it comes to like letting yourself have a little bit more food and letting yourself be in a maintenance phase, it's scary because you're like, I know how I felt when I weighed a certain amount. I know how I felt during that weight loss phase and I'm scared to have to do that again, right? So, totally reasonable to have like that aspect. And I do think like being really real with ourselves about like the utilization of therapy and the utilization of other tools in order to kind of like heal the trauma that food gives us because I I truly believe that we all all have little tea or big tea trauma with food which is what leads to food noise.
Yeah, I agree. And I think that not enough people talk about that shift mentally from having the goal of losing weight to suddenly not having that goal anymore. And how do you approach that next stage? Um because it is a bit of a a mind flock to, you know, excuse my language, to suddenly not be the focus not being weight loss anymore and then having to back off of the thing or adjust the GLP1 that let you lose the weight. You know, it's a bit of a mind game.
>> Oh, 100%. I mean, I have been over I had been overweight since I was 12 years old up until I was 28. Um, and so and for many people it's longer. And what is so difficult for some people is to say to be able to shift to uh actually like not have every day be focused on weight loss. Like what what do I think about now? What do I do?
Yeah.
>> Um, and I think that's where I would really push people to say you're instead of weight loss now it is building muscle like with the same tenacity that you were like I want to lose weight. It's like I want to get jacked. I want to have these biceps, right? Like I want because it's the best thing for my health. Like truly increased lean muscle mass is associated with decreased risk of cardiovascular disease, decreased risk of diabetes, dementia and all cause mortality and osteoporosis. all cause mortality, meaning death by any cause, like literally any cause. You are at less risk if you have more skeletal muscle mass.
>> Interesting. Yeah, I think that's a good point that you make because first it was food noise. You're thinking about food noise all the time and then you're thinking about weight loss all the time because it's finally working when you're on the BLP1. But what the heck now do I do? There was a comment lipadeema unfiltered said tell me about it. I'm 46, finally at my goal weight and I had to find something else to do. Yeah, because our brain has [clears throat] been focused on our weight and losing it for me since I was like 10, you know.
So, >> yeah.
>> Yeah, absolutely.
>> Your wife is using any of the peptides or training that you do.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, my wife's a smoke show, so I I I'm not going to complain.
>> She quite literally is. If you've not seen this, [laughter] they're they're should be illegal to be as attractive as they are.
I I am I'm I'm very uh yeah, I'm like I don't know how I landed her, but um so she she's at she's always like been a very healthy weight and she's like always and I'm so grateful because she just naturally like makes healthy food for us, which is something that is so awesome for for me. Like it's both of our second marriage and in my first marriage I just didn't have that support and I actually had to lose all the weight by myself and like it was really a difficult thing um to like try and lose that weight during that marriage.
Um, and I'm very grateful that she just cooks so well for us. Um, she's always like making protein and she's always uh doing that. Um, so she does use some peptides.
>> Finding your wife. They're saying >> yeah, she's hot. Um, shout out Remy Ray.
Um, so, um, she does use a few peptides.
A few that, uh, that Belle offers and a few that, um, we use from my other brand, um, that you can see in the link.
But it um she uses GHK uh which is now available at at Bell um and you know has you know the smoothest uh beautiful skin um and then NAD and glutathione we both use um and she has had actually tremendous benefit from she's she's like man and she's never really struggled that much with energy levels but you know she's we have a 2-year-old and we have six kids between the two of us so we we struggle with energy levels. Um, and ever since we both started using NAD and glutathione, she's like, >> I just like I don't bloat anymore and >> I have better energy and my skin feels great. Um, and she's also noticed like more regular periods, which I I have I have no like methodology mechanism on why that's happening. I just know it's happening. So, it's probably an inflammatory thing or something to do with her her hormones uh being better um like manage because of less inflammation and better better cellular efficiency.
>> Can you take I just saw this question that we missed a little bit earlier. Um can you take MC B12 when B12 is already in your teptide?
>> Yes, you can. um it is uh it's such a small amount that is in um the tracepeptide B12 and B12 is a water soluble um vitamin and so you pee out most of it um like very quickly so you store it very briefly in your liver um and then you pee out pee it out um so there's there's water soluble vitamins there's fat soluble vitamins which is ADK and then all the other ones are the water soluble Um, and so it's incredibly hard to get B12 toxicity. Like, and I have people who have super therapeutic levels of B12 all the time who have zero side effects.
Um, and the levels that are in the MC B12 with the teptide B12 are still at a point of like a normal therapeutic daily amount. Perhaps if you were also taking a high like 2,000 micrograms of um B12 supplement as well, you might do that.
So like I would say if you're taking both of those, you probably don't need um a B12 supplement.
>> Okay, perfect. Um Dr. Taylor, NAD+ and if you already have general anxiety, oh this is Christy. I knew before even looking at she asked me that yesterday, too. Would it does it make NAD does NAD make anxiety worse?
>> Um, it's listed as a potential side effect. Clinically, I have seen very few people ever actually have that. I would say the most common side effect is um within about 10 to 20 minutes of injection of NAD people have like that flushed feeling where you're like your heart rate increases you feel a little a little hot flashy maybe a little weak in the legs is what the way my wife describes it. um and that is very transient um and like goes away within a couple of minutes and that can increase anxiety during that time. I have very few patients who have actually had increased anxiety during NAD+ um because physiologically it should not be affecting the anxiety centers of the brain. It's working on a cellular energy mostly in tissue cells to [snorts] increase cellular energy output.
Perfect. Um, can you take NAD? We're lots of peptide questions coming in now.
Can you take NAD and MCB together? What is is there I I get this question a lot.
Is there some limit on how many dang peptides I can combine? Because I'm up to now.
>> Um, well, don't don't look in my fridge.
Um, I uh [laughter] Yeah. Um, I I I think at one point I was taking like 10 different ones. Um, and it was it was great. Um, I was like smoking an injury >> out all your sights >> injection spots. I don't know. I'm a big guy. I'm 6 6'2 200. You know, I just got I got a lot of surface area.
>> I asked Tiffany last night if I could put my glutathione in my hip because I was like, it's not one of the recommended spots. And she said, Britney, anywhere you got some fat, you can put it is basically what she said.
>> Yeah. I mean, that's that's literally my response to everyone is like, is there fatty skin there? Great. Go for it. Um >> yeah.
>> So um someone said uh did I hear you say glutathione helps with insulin resistance? Not directly. It helps with in inflammation and helps with mitochondrial efficiency. Um and it doesn't have a direct effect on insulin resistance. It was the GLP1s. I said insulin resistance. Um seraroan because it decreases visceral fat can have an indirect effect on insulin resistance.
Um long term if you like take serin long term uh at high doses and get your growth hormone too high you can actually like have an opposite effect where you have increased insulin resistance. So you always want to kind of balance that.
Um thankfully curlon is pretty mild on its increase of growth hormone and so it's a very very low risk.
>> Um kennal sure I had that when I had kennel injections for my knees. Oh, I don't know what that was in response to.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. So, [clears throat] GHKCU, what's the difference in the GHKCU and then the glow cream?
>> Yeah. So, um the two creams are released for skin. Um the real difference is just that one is GHKCU half%.
Really more for the like overall skin red spots. Yeah. skin uh dark spots, red spots, um acne scars, wrinkles, things like that. The second is that um uh the glow cream or the GHKCU estriel cream has estriol GHKCU hyaluronic acid and um >> uh nyinomide.
>> Thank you. Ninamine. And so that is more for kind of over the age of 45 kind of definitely in the par late permenopausal menopausal where you have no estrogen like that can be more beneficial because it has 2% GHKCU so not as high as the other but it has estriol which has been shown to help with skin elasticity tightness and so you're getting the benefits of GHKCU on the wrinkles and there's great randomized control trials that look at uh GHKCU topical and how it decreases wrinkle prevalence, depth, thickness um and number. And then the estriol and the hyaluronic acid help with the skin integrity as well.
>> Perfect. I just saw a question. I'm going to add this one to the stage. Um kind of pertaining to that GHKCU.
Between GHKCU or what which would be best for rosacea type two?
>> She don't want to take the more.
>> Yeah, that is a great question. Um this is not personal medical advice. Um but both is the answer. Um um I mean if I really obviously there hasn't been any randomized control trials that have looked at rosacea specifically and mostly has looked at the signs of aging or rosacea is inherently an inflammatory condition. Um and so GHKCU topical GHKCU actually activates anti-inflammatory genes. Um, so I would wager, and this is just like me saying based on mechanism, glutathione tends to help with skin health, tends to help with inflammation, but a direct effect on your skin that the topical is more likely to have benefit.
>> Gotcha. Yeah. I feel like the glutathione helps you from the inside out. Like people tell me that my skin is more glowy since I started taking the glutathione, but in terms of like >> dark spots and all that kind of stuff, it that makes sense. So internally the glutathione is going to do more than the GHKCU would.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Um, is Serellin a peptide that needs stopped and restarted? I think you had mentioned that briefly at one point and but but I'm not sure that Belle does that. So what do what do [clears throat] you think about that?
>> Like I said, um, there there's there's a good mechanistic thought process that you should give your growth hormone receptors a break. um every once in a while whether that's four months, six months, three months and then you know whether it's for a week or a month.
Um and the the interesting thing with Surmearellin is it does have good data for growth hormone secretion long term um because it's FDA approved for childhood growth hormone deficiency. And I think we just lost Tiffany or not Tiffany, we just lost Britney, I think.
Unless uh she's gone somewhere else.
Um >> I can't hear anybody.
>> Hello. Can you hear us?
>> Hold on. Let's >> I don't know.
>> Can you hear me?
>> Can the group hear me or can the group hear Britney? [laughter] >> What happened?
What's We can hear her. They said they can hear me.
>> They can hear. Oh, no.
>> Can you guys hear him when he talks? I can't hear myself.
>> We can hear you.
>> You can't see Britney. See, I see me, too.
>> Well, someone just say, "Hey, Dr. Taylor, I can hear you."
>> Hear you both.
>> I can hear you. I can hear you, Britney.
>> Britney, this happened to you and Tiffany. It did happen with me and Tiffany. Okay. So gone apparently.
>> Okay.
>> I can hear >> Can you hear me?
>> Okay. They can hear us.
>> I don't know why my face is So you cannot see me.
>> No.
>> No.
[laughter] >> Okay. Do you All right.
>> I can't hear anyone.
Okay, maybe maybe I can end it and come back. Do you think we can end it and then you can't hear me or they can hear me? Hold on.
>> I can. Everyone can hear me. Um I'm gonna just answer questions while Britney uh says she can't hear me.
>> Live and restart it.
>> That's just how it goes. You see that?
Hold on. Wait.
You got that?
>> I'm gonna end it and try to restart it.
>> Okay.
>> Dr. Taylor says he can answer questions.
Okay. Go ahead, Dr. Taylor, just answer the questions then.
>> Uh, I mean, we can do. [snorts] All right. So, I'll just answer a couple questions while she figures out her end.
Um, NAD, uh, looking at Amazon 500 gram or 1,00,000 gram creatine, whichever you would like. They're the same. It's just if you think you can be consistent.
Have I researched whether lipadeema patients can should avoid GHKCU if estrogen dominus is a factor in lipidma or is estrogen low enough to worry?
Well, for lip for that question, there is a GHKCU that's just GHKCU. There's GHKCU and then there's the glow cream that has the estriol and the hyaluronic acid as well. Um, men taking serillin. I love mental and she's back.
>> I'm trying to put myself on my phone and then I'm over here.
>> All right.
>> Okay. There we go. I'm back on my phone.
>> Don't know what that was.
>> Serellan is great for sleep maintenance.
Uh, I think it's great for REM sleep.
So, um, great question.
>> Sorry guys, I don't know what happened there.
>> Sometimes when my air kicks on, my internet decides to be dumb. I It's like correlated somehow.
Okay. What kind of questions did we miss here?
>> I don't remember.
>> A couple. Serowan is good. Uh, is there a Peped help with joint knee pain? Yes, sir. can help with joint. Yeah, ser can help with joint pain. Um, if you're parmenopausal, menopausal hormone therapy can help with joint pain. Um, there are some other peptides that are not uh available at Bell. Um, but uh like BPC157, TB500 that um can uh help with joint pain. Um I have them through my other clinic. You can check the link in my bio, but we'll uh you can take a look at that. Um, let's see.
>> I'm hoping that some of that's going to be available soon. I was talking to Matt last night about that actually.
>> Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. What can help with anhidonia? That's a great question. Um, the short answer is if you have anhidonia on trespatide or semiglutide, switching to a different one and seeing if you don't have as much anhidonia. The second is making sure that you're looking at it like does this truly align with the GLP-1 dosage or does it also have some depression aspects? Um because depression obviously is like the main cause of anhidonia. Um >> so that's a hard question. Sorry.
>> Sorry. Sorry, I think I heard you say your wife takes DHKCU. Is that a shot or a cream?
>> Um, she does both, the topical and the shot. Um, so, um, >> there's some Tiffany was mentioning yesterday that there's a some kind of meeting going on in the FDA in July maybe where they're going to talk about a lot of these peptides that are currently not supposed to be being compounded and that maybe that's sort of when a lot of them will be more readily available.
>> Correct. Yeah. So, um, sorry, I'm just apparently there's some comments on my Instagram that I'm trying to look at, but I'm not seeing them. Um, so, um, yes. So, there there were a lot of peptides are on a non-compounding list, and basically, [snorts] um, the current administration said, "Hey, these were put on the the do not compound list illegally. there is no safety issue that made it to where um we are not um that we should not be compounding these and you know people are seeing great benefit from them and then this huge gray market came on because people were like we want these and so gray market suppliers were getting them from China with very little safety checks and people were getting them and so um many of them were taken off the FDA do not compound list and so there are compoundingies compounding them um but it's kind of like that gray area where providers feel comfortable prescribing them from those compoundingies, but they're not technically on the category one list. Um and so um there's a lot of those like BPC57, TV500, 5 aminoq, mlanitan, mc um uh ghku um kpv um tzamearan, serarone, cjc 1225, epimean all those things. So um oh not saran but tesaran but cjcaran. So there are other ones that are available. Um [sighs] there are um and again like if you're truly interested I am I I do a lot of education on my Tik Tok and Instagram um and we um can always chat >> from China. No GP1 from China. We do. We do not. No >> no we don't. I say we like, but no.
>> Yeah. No, we uh any anything you ever get from from Belle or from me is going to be from US statelicicensed 503 compoundingies.
>> Natalie, yeah.
>> Did we ever answer the creatine question I saw pop up? There was somebody that said that they were um looking on Amazon. She wanted to know 500 grams or a thousand. And I I think that happened right before I >> that's just the total number of servings and so each serving is five grams. Um so it's just like whichever one um you want to get. Um do vegetarians gain more benefit from creatine? Great question.
Um the short answer is yes. If you eat meat um let's if you eat a pound of meat, you get a about a gram like one to two grams of creatine from a pound of meat. And so most people, if they're eating a a high like protein diet that involves meat, you're going to be getting about 2 to four grams of creatine a day from that. Um, but you'd still benefit from creatine supplementation. Um, so vegetarians may be beneer doses like 10 grams per day. There's great data that like uh macro doses of 20 to 30 grams per day if you're sleepd deprived may help with the cognitive benefit from creatine. Um and so like for me as a physician when I was going through training and I would [laughter] have a 24-hour shift, I would sometimes take 20 30 grams of creatine to help overcome those uh cognitive def deficits from that.
Oh, and that would help like instantly directly.
>> Yeah.
>> Interesting. I guess I need to go on Amazon and order some creatine because the brain fog. Oh, another thing about menopause that I heard mentioned that I thought somebody mentioned this thing of menopausal rage. Is that a thing?
>> Oh, absolutely. I made a video about this.
>> Okay. Well, tell us about it. Are we just angry? So, we can't sleep. We're angry. We have hot flashes. We're just monsters.
Yeah. Um, uh, I'll say it this way.
[laughter] Uh, you said it, not me. Um, so I'll say it this way. Uh, yeah. I'm a menopause pract certified practitioner. I advocate for women to get to get treatment and to recognize symptoms. That's all I do. Um, so, um, I'll say it this way. Estrogen is the major modulator of the female brain, especially the amygdala and the lyic system. And so when you look at fight orflight and you look at emotional regulation, the amydala and lyic system are highly involved in that. And so, not only are you having massively fluctuating estrogen, and not only are you having low libido and irritability and brain fog and being frustrated with all those things, but then just the ability to regulate that rage or to feel and you're feeling more of that rage comes from the lack of estrogen.
>> Okay.
>> Um, a really good question. Yeah, I know. A really good question here. Is Hundo a good choice for maintenance? I'm on 12.5 at now. So, there's actually a study that just came out. It's called the Attain Maintain trial. Came back. It came out last month in May. Uh where they looked at funo for maintenance after coming off of Tzepide.
Um and it was mild benefit uh is is what I'll say. Um so there's like this surount maintain trial that looked um uh and it um like said like hey what if we just go down to 5 milligrams tepatide and the attain maintain trial tookide and went to funo and I I would I would personally say that comparing those two studies the staying on lower doses of trappide was actually better.
M because foundo is not even really a peptide, right?
>> No, it's a molecule that activates the GLP-1 receptor.
>> Okay. Which is why you don't have to take it like the WGO or the Yeah, WGO pill you have to take with food or whatever. There's there's restrictions around how you have to take it. I can't remember exactly what they are, but yeah. Okay. Teptitis seem to balance my mood. Not sure if it's all related, but I have noticed that I am calmer since being on it. H I haven't heard that one.
Um I I mean I hear often I think I talked about last time on one of our um like our lives or maybe it was with Tiffany was like um they're doing that trial at the Mayo Clinic with trespin hot flashes and how it's managing permenopausal symptoms and how just clinically I've seen that happen in many patients. Um, and so I have I I I'm not shocked honestly that um it it it's helping people with their mood symptoms associated with it as well.
>> I saw a question about a peptide that Oh, what do you think about CJC versus Tessimorin for reducing visceral fat?
>> Great question. [snorts] Um, not specific medical advice, but I'll say this. Clinically I tend to use tesmmerin more in men uh because it is stronger and typically has more side effects. It can have more like lightheadedness, dizziness, increased heart rate and anxiety while CJC epomelon tends to be a little bit more mild. Um you know serone and CJCon are slightly different and obviously CJC 1295 epan slightly higher uh efficacy. Um but um and that's because it has the grein analog which is the epimellin um which is uh more likely to have like more um sustained pulses of growth hormone. So um for women I typically will go with serarellin or CJC 1295 eparillin um just because that tesmarin tends to be a little stronger and with side effects as well as the the effect on the hypothalamic pituitary axis which if you're already in permenopause and have that axis all screwed up it can it can exacerbate some of those parmenopausal symptoms. Yeah, Tiffany was talking the other day when I went live with her about Tesmoron versus Serellin and how Tess Morlin yells at your pituitary gland a little harder than Serellin does and that that's basically how she explained it. It's tearing it on and that the testin does it more and so it can it's a little stronger essentially is what she was saying. Um >> yeah, I I think that's a good way of saying it.
>> She does have a good way of explaining a lot of things. Why would I realize diabetics and A1C? Okay, that's why would anybody want to go off of GP1? I agree. So, is there this is another question I get a lot. Is there we have about 10 minutes left guys, but is there a set like how are doctors approaching maintenance? Is it very individual for each person? Like how are you do you have any type of standard protocol on dosage or or frequency or anything like that? Or is it a patient patient basis?
And if so, how are doctors going to be that patient with every single person that they have to work with in that way?
>> Great question. Obviously, I'm biased because I am chief medical officer of Bell and so I feel very strongly about how important it is to maintain access to GOP ones for people. But even in my primary care clinical practice previously, I had a pretty set protocol I did for every patient. Um that seemed to work quite well. And obviously you can personalize it as things come up.
And that's why having um the ability to talk to the medical team is so important at Bell is so because like everyone is different, right? Um but for many of my patients and where I was in a more traditional PCP setting, I would do this. I would get them on a max tolerable dose to where they're losing an appropriate amount of weight, but not too much, too fast, and not having significant side effects. And then I would get them to their goal weight and then maintain them on that same dose at their goal weight for at least three months. And then once they got to that goal weight and maintained that and were working on their lifestyle on that same dose for at least three months, working on muscle mass, working on continually having whole real foods, uh, high protein, all those things, then I would taper them down one dose per couple of months, whether it's one month, two month, three months. For most people, it would be about two to three months on each incremental dose decrease. And then we get them to a point where they're maintaining the same weight, not regaining weight, not having incredible food noise, and then make decisions on stopping.
>> Gotcha. And then there's even the chance of having somebody said it earlier, having to go back up eventually.
Correct. So, it seems like it's a continual thing. I am actually someone who I got down to five milligrams for maintenance and then was on it for about six months at five and I was retaining my weight. I never gained any weight, but I started having a lot more food noise that started creeping in. And so I ended up increasing to about seven and I don't I've still maintain my weight. My weight hasn't changed but my food noise is gone. So it's it seems to me like it might be a constant adjustment of things. Um >> yeah I would I would say >> okay >> yeah I would just say like any expert in the GLP1 obesity space is going to tell you that it's lily it's likely lifelong.
Um because obesity is a chronic disease.
It is not just like oh I happen to be overweight. It's no obesity is chronic disease because of many factors. Genetic factors, ghrein, hormone uh like can have genetic factors that increase it in some people. Trauma that's associated with food, food noise, and environmental factors. The fact that we're just surrounded by ultrarocessed food that's calorically dense and highly palatable makes obesity a chronic disease. And we wouldn't tell you to stop lifting weights. We wouldn't tell you to stop taking your blood pressure medication if you need it. Why would we tell you to stop taking the medication that is treating your chronic disease?
>> Gotcha. Um, Natalie, no, I am not ignoring your questions. I'm sorry. Here we go. Okay. Does trans women menopausal symptoms are they similar to a biological woman >> if they're hormone if they're on hormones? Can she expect to have the same type of symptoms?
>> No, because she's on the hormones.
Right. So, um, menopause is because you stop responding to the stimulation from the brain to say your ovaries to to increase estrogen. And so, if you're using exogenous estrogen and testosterone suppression, you you don't go through menopause. Um, >> technically going through menopause anyway.
>> Yeah. That being said, as you ga as you age, you actually have an increased fat composition and decreased water composition of your body. Just 95% of people have that shift. And things that are lipophilic, meaning medications that bind to fat are going to be more effective versus ones that are hydrophilic that are bind to water are less effective. So, without getting into the nitty-gritty of that, like you may end up needing decreased doses of those medications.
>> Gotcha. We have had about 14 questions come in at once here. Try to get through as many as we can [clears throat] in four minutes.
>> I'll I'll um I gained a little bit >> in oral forum.
>> Oh, um I'll answer that. Um most of them are crap because they get digested into individual amino acids before they get absorbed.
>> Yep. Uh serrillin weight gain on surrealin is that normal?
>> Yeah, it can be normal.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah, simmeran can increase your your hunger actually. Um but it also increases just water retention. Um, so many people will see a transient uh weight gain, but it's not fat gain. It's actually just water retention uh both in your muscles and in your fat cells.
>> Does it even out eventually? Does your body let go of that water eventually?
>> Yeah, as soon as you stop taking it within within a week or two.
>> Oh, okay. Uh, why would dosage need to be decreased on maintenance? I know some who have stayed on 15 milligrams for years.
That's purely just like if you're if you're maintaining that weight on 15 milligrams, great. Keep doing it. Um >> um I saw something about Russ's legs which I can actually agree with >> on her onto her.
>> Is that a >> Yeah. So it Yeah, it is. So a couple of questions. I think this goes handinhand with my information I gave on hair loss, which I actually just I have a YouTube video I'm about to post, but um basically hair loss with GP1 is probably more associated with energy deficiency, macronutrient deficiency, and micronutrient deficiencies. Restless legs is likely associated with the same thing. You have less hunger. You're intaking less magnesium, less iron, and less fluids and electrolytes. And so until you've optimized those things and say like, am I getting enough magnesium?
Am I getting enough potassium? Am I getting enough sodium? Am I getting enough fair iron? Uh because iron deficiency is one of the leading causes of reversible restless legs. And then am I getting enough just hydration in general? Um then if you're doing all of those things, then I would say maybe it's a it's a a treatment thing.
>> Gotcha. Uh do any of the peptides help reduce bad cholesterol?
GOP ones.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh GOP ones and then anything that decreases visceral fat because visceral fat again higher inflammation, higher insulin resistance, insulin resistance in the liver leads to worse cholesterol.
Therefore, uh GLP-1s and anything that decreases visceral fat like cereellin is going to be helpful long term. That's actually the number that I think I saw most improved because I wasn't pre-diabetic or anything like that, but my cholesterol numbers from year to year have been the biggest improvement that I've actually seen on the JP1.
>> Yeah, I met with a lipidologist >> yet.
>> Yeah, I met with a lipidologist recently and asked her this very question. And I said, "Hey, what are you cardiologists and lipid specialists thinking about uh basically first-line treatment of hyper cholesterolmia in insulin resistant people for reduction of lipids?" Because I see this clinically all the time. Like I would say 95% of my patients who are on GOP1 and are on either blood pressure or high cholesterol medication are able to come off of it because they get enough from their GLP-1s. So um and yeah, HSCP your inflammatory um marker that increases your risk of heart disease um has comes down to. So I I think we're going to continue to see data that supports first-line treatment of many of these cardiomatabolic diseases like high cholesterol, hypertension, insulin resistance, diabetes, all those things.
GLP ones are going to be the first line treatment.
>> Yeah, I agree. Okay. Does anybody have any last minute questions that Dr. Hiller can answer before he has to hop off? I think we bothered him at work today, but that's okay.
>> No, it's good. I had the afternoon off.
I just had to sneak into the into the back office to do it because I wasn't able to get home. Um >> Oh, yeah.
>> So, thanks so much everyone.
>> Yeah. Thank you for joining us. We'll have Dr. Taylor again. Um so, yeah, I guess you can you want to say goodbye Dr. Taylor and you can hop off and then I'll answer all their questions that I know they're going to have. [laughter] >> Okay, sounds good. Bye.
>> Um I'll Yeah, thank you. I'll throw I'll throw my Tik Tok and Instagrams in here as well um for everyone to to reference and you can look at the link in my bio and and reach out if you have more questions. I'm always happy to help everyone.
>> Perfect.
>> All right. Yep, I see them all.
All right, everybody. Just me now. Okay.
So, I didn't want to uh uh bombard Dr. Taylor with any of, you know, other questions logistically wise about Belle or any of the sales or anything that's going on. So, if you do have any questions, now is the time to ask them.
I expect some people will just go ahead and and leave and that's fine. But thought I would go ahead and because there there has been a lot of questions that I've been getting and I've been trying to keep up and answer them all.
Um but yay, just Britney. [laughter] But um but uh yeah, so I did get my GHKCU.
This is the I showed it earlier. This is the Estreol Glow one. So this is what it looks like when it comes. And it's actually purple. I'm going to pump just a tiny bit out here so that you guys can see. It's got this like purple cleary consistency. Put it on my hand. Um and it absorbs really well. So I got mine yesterday and I used it for the first time. Uh, got to use the facilities. Be right back. It's okay, Christine. Take your time. Um, yeah. So, any questions that you guys have about anything else related that we uh don't need didn't need to bother Dr. Taylor with because like I said, the man is very smart man, but he probably did not know anything about the the sale and and all of that going on. My GHKCU was delivered today and I can't wait to get home. I know.
Um, oh, perfect. Lipadeema. Um, or Beth.
I know you're Beth. Um, my GHKCU came yesterday when I was at the pool and Chris texted me and was like, "Your medicine came." And I was like, "Ah, we got to go now, kids. I want to I wanted to go and see it." And you're welcome. And guys, remember, yes, if you are um like even if you're a current patient of Belle, you can still use the coupon on new products. So, if you're adding on a different peptide or something, it'll my code will still work. Um, and then of course it is just still a great price on the sixmonth tur or sema as well. Like lit like I like uh where'd you go Natalie? You hear Natalie? If you use a firm now would be a great time to get six months of sema because it's like it comes out to like $101 um for the semaglutide.
Can't see Britney. You still can't see me.
Can Can you guys see me? Give me a yes or a no.
Okay. Jay Thomas says that you cannot see me. Yes, we can. Okay. Yes, it seems like most people can see me. I don't know if I'm still streaming this on Dr. Taylor's [laughter] platforms, but he left. So, I don't know if he is. I guess we're we're still talking on his Instagram. I don't know.
Um, which would be funny, I guess, but that's okay. Okay, most of you guys say that you can see me. Um, let me see here. The difference between DHKCU shot and the cream. So, Lauren, the shot I actually do think that Dr. Taylor has the shot on his other website. Um, but the shot he as he was saying, it's injecting it right now is it's one of those things that hasn't been added to that category one list with the FDA, which is what they're going to be doing hopefully in July when they have their meeting. So, as of right now, like until it gets added to category one, um, Belle doesn't feel comfortable selling it in the injectable form, which is why they're doing it in the cream. But, um, the cream form helps with like sunspots and mealasma and aging and all of the things. And the the glow one has the estrogen cream in it as well.
I think the previous messages are popping back up. Oh, I see you. Okay.
Um, so Christie, he has a website in his um I think you guys are right because I'm re seeing comments that were asked earlier that are popping back up for some reason. Um, I don't remember his his website off the top of my head, but I do know that it is in the like his channel. It's in his descriptions and on his Tik Tok as well. I've been to it one time and then um I forgot all about it.
Does the 15% discount work on all products or just GLP ones? Kimberly, all products. Um, and if you're a current customer, it's all products like new ones that you add on and it works. And the code, like I said, as long as it's a new product, my code Britney will work again. Um, somebody asked me this morning if it worked on reorders of Tzeptide, and unfortunately it doesn't. I haven't been able to talk Matt into that one, but you know, this is when I say maybe your spouse needs some. [laughter] I don't know. Uh, it's such a great sale at one. It ends up being like 166 for the six months, which is phenomenal uh per month. and the SEMA ends up being 101 that it's just such a good deal. I hate I hate like not being able to to refill because my refill's due. So that I'm I'm at the same point. I'm like, "Well, Matt, why is this not working on refills?" Because my refill's due next month or next week. And I'm like, "Well, that sucks." Britney, if I inject my NAD, will you be online with me? I'm being a baby. Just kidding. I think I'm going to try Christie. Yes. You know what, Christie? I could send you a Streamyard link [clears throat] and we could like not be like streaming it anywhere but just be like live with each other. And I could actually Okay, while we're on this topic, I have actually, this is something that I keep meaning to bring up and talk about um I want to start offering that not like for sale like for free. So, I think that maybe twice a month I am because I know there are a lot of people that want to have more I mean this is trying to like toot my own horn or something but wanting to have more in-depth conversations with me or I can't email you back every time you email and all of that. And so I thought I could choose two to four people a month that reach out and want to talk and we could do that. We could have a Streamyard session with each other that we're not recording that's not going to get posted anywhere for free.
Um, do you guys think that is something that people would be interested in?
Again, I'm not gonna charge for it. I'm not gonna It's just a service like, hey, if you want to be one of these four people that wants to, you know, hang out for 30, 45 minutes and chat, we can do that. Um, I thought that that would be a good thing to offer and give back to everybody and we can just even if you want to whatever the heck you want to chat about, some people just need a friend, you know, some people just need a talk. Um, I think that would be a good idea. So, if a lot of you guys are interested in that, maybe I will post um that included in my update video on Monday and like how we're going to do that and how I'll choose the people.
Honestly, it would probably just be the first like four people that emailed me every month and I would do one once a week. Um but that's kind of and I'd probably end up compiling quite a list and then we can just kind of work through them all.
Um live vital. Yes, sunshine. So, live vital is the name of the the Dr. Taylor's thing that he was talking about. And ultimately what that actually is is like a back setup thing that is eventually again once all of these peptides get added to the category one list going to be sort of just activated on Belle's side. So it's like he's got the software ready to go that can be activated once um all of those are on that list. That's kind of how Matt explained it to me. But that is the name of the company. Pam the bud dates currently are I talked to Matt about this last night actually. They are February and March of 2027 are most of the bud dates. If you ordered a month, you're probably going to get a shorter bud date just because they can and will do that, right? If they have it available, if it's not going to expire within the month, but the like longer ones will get the longer bud dates. But yeah, February, March 2027. And then once that stock has gone through, which Matt actually told me that they have enough for like the whole summer. Um, but after that, then that's when they'll move to revive.
I think I missed some.
Mine trying to decide on whether to order glutathione. I don't have a sleep problem, but looking to improve skin and energy thoughts. So glutathione doesn't actually help with sleep. That one is um the serarellin. Glutathione is the one that is going to help you with your skin, give you that glowy look, your energy. It's going to help you process your body process toxins better and kind of get rid of all the crap that we get into our bodies from the sun and the food we eat and all of that. And so it turns into better improved cellular energy like what Dr. Taylor was talking about, which in turn improves the way your whole body functions and how all the vitamins are absorbed and and all of that. It's my favorite thing ever is is glutathione.
Pam, you know what? We could pro I mean, yes, we could have a GLP1 club, but if people wanted it to be more like personal, like I want to offer like some one-on-one type things, but also I can add on here like several people to the stage. I'm live right now, so obviously I'm not going to do that. Um, where you can like see several faces. So, that is another thought as well where we it's almost like a a Zoom chat. Um, I ended up upgrading my StreamYard and paying for the ridiculously expensive one. So, it does all of these cool features now that I uh didn't know it did before. So, we could in theory have a GLP1 club or whatever.
Oh, yay. Everybody seems to like the the chat thing or maybe smaller group chats with a handful of people. Yeah, I'm not opposed to that either, Reeb. Um, I do just think there are specific people that would like a more private chat. But yeah, group chat. We could do both. We could we could figure out ways to do both. That is definitely something that I will be able to do more. I I say once a week now, but more frequently when my kids are back in school, right? Because right now they're home all the time.
Chris took them to Hobby Lobby so that [laughter] I could do this live today when he got home from work. So thankfully Chris gets home relatively early from work because he goes so early. Um but yeah, the the summer with my children is a tad difficult.
We need to have a meetup um here in in North Carolina because there's so many of us that are in North Carolina.
Has anyone had experience with Revive?
So there were Moon Tile. There were several people and I can try to go find that post and like highlight it. When I first talked about Revive in the Facebook group, I'd have to go back and find the post that um were talking about how they had used Revive in the past from different companies and that they really liked it.
Um, I have personally not had any experience with Revive, but if anybody else here has, then chime in. But I will try to go find that post and like add it to the um the highlights or the featured tab or whatever on the Facebook group.
Britney, will when will Belle offer HRT?
So, every time I ask Dr. Taylor, he says it's in the works soon. That is what he says. So, I don't know exactly what that means, but I know and Tiffany actually said it on my live um a couple days ago with her as well that it is something that is in the works and is coming soon.
So, hopefully soon. Hopefully before your girl needs it. Um yeah, although I started I feel like I'm like a book club, but you could decide a topic. Yeah, Pam, that's a great idea.
At one point we were gonna do a Zoom and I there was something that like was a hold up and I can't remember exactly what it was but I I will I'll look into all of that but yeah I do want to still offer the one-on- ones.
My sarlan just shipped but now I'm scared because of him saying you will gain weight. So Jeanie I actually had noticed that. So, do y'all remember I mean, if you've been around the last like couple of months, I've actually said a couple of times that I feel like I'm carrying holding on to extra weight, right? So, when he just said that about the smearillin, it was like full circle.
I was like, "Oh, that is what was going on with that." Um, and it so it makes a lot of sense to me. I'd actually been wondering that in the back of my mind, is this making me gain weight? Now, he said that it is not a continual thing.
It's actual just like muscle or like water weight and that it would go away if you stopped. I don't think I mean when I say I feel like I've gained weight I mean like maybe two pounds and the last several times I weighed it had leveled back out. So it's not going to be at least in my experience any significant amount of of weight gain. I the Serellin helps me sleep so I finally have it back on track after going to the beach and not taking it with me. It helps me sleep so much better that I will have two pounds gladly for how much it helps me. I'm a few weeks now on glutathione. Will it help with skin elasticity? I don't actually know about that one. The creppy skin though is one of the benefits of the the glow cream with the estrial nyinomide GHKCU. That's actually something that Tiffany talked about the other day. Um what it what the GHK or I'm sorry, what the glutathione is going to do for your skin is make it helps you from the inside out. Right. So Dr. Taylor just said that this is going to help like the outside topical stuff on your skin and the glutathione is going to help you glow from the inside out. It's going to improve the inside so that you can look better on the outside.
So, I don't think that's going to help with that. I think the glow cream would be the better option for that. But again, like I have this glow no matter what I do in my life all the time now.
And it's 100% from the glutathione because I did not have it before. I had very dull looking skin.
Yay, Michelle. There's a lot of us in North Carolina. Um, silly me, when does the 15% off end? Sunday is what they're saying. Um, that it ends on Sunday. But like when you ask when I asked Matt, I he called me last night and we were talking um and I asked him and he said Sundayish.
So Matt's like, you know, he doesn't like committing to a certain time frame.
It's like whenever I feel like turning the button off is when I'll do it, but Sunday is what they said in the email.
Britney, could you please talk about your experience with Serillin? So, Tara, what do you what do you want to know about my experience with Serellin? Um, I've been on it now for a little over a month and it the biggest change that I have noticed with Serellin is like drastically improved my sleep. Um, and I'm getting much deeper sleep and I'm waking up feeling much more rested than I did previously.
I want to help my dad micro dose it.
Yes, Christy. Yes, I actually have a video on that back from when I was um that's actually the safest way to do it because you're just pulling it directly out and then doing it that way. Um, but then you would have to in theory switch the needle or figure out a way to draw it up into an insulin syringe. I guess insert it into a vial, but you'd have to use a clean vial every time.
You need you would need to have a needle that is big enough to cover the needle inside the injectable pen. Um, but yes, in theory, that's the safest way to do it. Take it out with a 20 23. I'm not sure. 23 is smallish. You might need like an 18 to do it. Um, but you want it to fit over the other one and then you would pull out just what you need and then recap it and put it back in the fridge. You're not messing with it. But the then you would have to inject it into a vial and draw it up. So if you're taking just a tiny tiny amount, that could be difficult. Some people actually though, wait, I'm thinking through this process, you actually probably could draw all of it out, put it all in a vial, and then draw out weekly what you need. That's probably the better idea.
Does Belle offer the three-month plan that is not the starter dose? I don't see that option for those already on.
Yes, Kimberly, they do. Um, so, okay. So, when you go to Bell, if you tell them you're on like, I don't know, 12 milligram, 12 and a half milligrams, right? Um, the starter dose is the one that would be 4, it's $4.99 before the sale. I don't know. Or 5.25 before the code. It's something like that.$4.99ish. $4.99ish. Um, that's the starter one that you would get. 2 and a half, five, and seven. The regular 3-month option should be with the with the code 550 something or 567 something.
I'm on my phone now. I was on the um my iPad earlier and then I could still look at things, but I can't do that now. Um, but it should be something like that.
And what they'll do is if you're on if you order multiple months if you're on say five milligrams you can have them increase it. There's actually a spot to check increase it. So you would get like one five. Say you order three months 15 7 and a half and 110 and then you would be able to dose appropriately or stay on five and make it last longer or whatever. But yeah, no, they offer a standard three-month plan of any dose and then they offer a starter pack dose, which honestly the orderly one is still like way cheaper. So, oh my god, autofill. Do I have crepulose skin?
What is helpful?
Um, for the crappy skin, I think it's going to be the GHKCU. Um, and the the one with the estroil in it, which is the cheaper option.
Pep with Pam. Is that on his site?
I have eye makeup on and that's it.
Christie, I have like Well, and then like moisturizers and stuff like that, but no, I have eye makeup on and I did my eyebrows and that's it.
Um, Pam, Dr. Mary Cla Haven, I have not heard of her, but I am going to. Oh, okay. So, um, whoever was asking about Revive, uh, Freddy says that Revive works great. So, that's awesome.
Oh, Natalie, about the weight training, I actually saw your comment pop up and I meant to go back to it and then all that stuff happened and I got kicked out. Um, I think that as a transw woman who is worried about building on a ton of muscle mass, so you don't want to, you know, look bulk bulk bulked. Um, it would be like I feel like you could do women focused weightlifting, right? I mean, I'm not a weight trainer, but I would think that you could do ones that are tailored more towards women that are more for like leanness, like even Pilates or something like that that would prevent that like heavy bulking is kind of what I was thinking when I originally saw that come up. Britney, please talk to Matt. I would love to get the discount. My hubby is already on tours with me. I know. I I I literally talked to him last night. I was like, "Yo, what's going on with this?" Um, I don't know. I don't know the reasonings behind it. Um, if nothing else, they should like activate my code or something for the existing customers.
I don't know.
My iPad doesn't. So, I actually have it set right now, Pam, where the comment should be popping up on the screen. Is it doing that?
>> Oh, thank you, Christie. Yeah, I'm I very very rarely wear any face like makeup anymore. I don't really in the summer anyway. Um the only time I do is occasionally I'll put some stuff I don't know if y'all can see right now there is like I have some like melasma that I get in the summer with when my when I get tanner. Um and so I sometimes will put something there, but I didn't today.
So Sue, why not just inject directly into the sterile vial? Because there's it's very very common to misfire it and then you waste an entire thing. So to like have it be safer in pulling it out with a needle and then injecting it is many many people would come to me and say, I tried to inject it right into a vial.
The little hole like it's hard to line up and then they hit the button and it misfires and the medicine goes everywhere. So it's just a way to avoid that.
Hi Britney. I'm enjoying my walking pad.
Thanks so much. Does Belle still have BPI? Can we kind? Yes, Kim. So, I touched on this earlier and yay. I actually did my walking pad earlier. I did a live on Tik Tok where I was trying to get to like way too many hearts. I did not reach that goal. Um, but a couple of you guys were in there. But yeah, I used mine earlier. We walked and chatted on Tik Tok. Um, so yes, Belle does still have BPI and current bud dates are February and March of 2027. I talked to Matt last night. Um, unless you order like a month because they do still have some shorter bud dates in stock and they're sending those out for the monthly orders, which is acceptable.
If you're ordering monthtomonth, as long as it's within 30 days, they can send it, right? So, um, yeah, those are the current sort of bud dates. Use a different email, people.
I I can't tell y'all to do that, but yeah. Yeah, use a different email.
It's okay. It works. Um or your spouse.
Um last time I I signed Chris up and got it during the deal, but now we're both already signed up, so I don't know how to I can't do that again.
Uh but yeah, different I've heard that a different email start works and I think Pam's the one that told me that using a different email works to get the deal.
Are you using sunscreen? I'm bad about that. Um Christy, I am religious with sunscreen.
I pay way too much money for all of these things, the glutathione, now the the glow, all the other skinincare that I use to not use sunscreen and I really don't want skin cancer. So yes, I am religious about putting sunscreen on every single day. And when I do, I have like one that's like not tinted and then a tinted one. Um even when I use the tinted one, I still use the non-tinted one. Like I am religious about sunscreen.
Um Pam, I have the one that I have. It's the Luck. I'm looking at it right now. I got it off Amazon. It's hundredish dollars. Um that's one that I have and I believe I have that in on my Amazon thing. I don't think it's in the description of this video, but it's in like all the other ones, but there's a ton on Amazon that are all very similar and they're like a hundred or less dollars.
Yes, sunshine. That is correct. That is that and that and in that video where I split the the pen um which by the way I get emails about that still constantly about people tell asking me um backwater measurements and stuff and I don't do any of that anymore so I would have to like do some major research to figure that out but um um yes in that video I draw it out with the bigger needle and then inject it into a vial. Again, you could in theory just take the pen and inject it into a vial, but you risk misfiring.
How does that work? So, P. Okay, Pam, tell us how it works because I have not done that. I did the I just signed Chris up, but Pam said that just changing your email works.
You have convinced me to go with glutathione. Oh, yay. I want everybody to take glutathione. Like it's I the thing that I noticed the most when I was on vacation that I was that I did not have my glutathione.
No, Pam, they are not 300 plus.
Absolutely not. They are like a hundred or less dollars. I sent I sent one out to Kim from the giveaway.
So, I just very recently bought one. I was I can't remember if I did one or two. I think I did two vests and one walking tablet, but it was less than it was hundred like 90 something dollars with tax. It wasn't that bad.
I used a different email. I have three Gmails. So, Pam, you used a different email, but you use the same name, the same birthday, all of that. Is that correct?
Give us like a yes or a thumbs up.
Glutathione is so amazing. Michelle.
Well, Christy, I think if she's using her same name and everything that she just is literally same, right? So, she literally is just using a different email. And you you did that with with Belle. Pam, I think you did it in the last sale. I think that Britney, you Britney, I what?
Natalie, all I see is it say Britney, you I don't I think I missed the rest of your your comment.
I was still the patient. I just used a different email.
Well, Pam just taught us all something.
Maybe I need to do it, too. I don't know if they would figure me out since I'm like in their system in multiple ways, but interesting.
Oh, thank you, Natalie. I'm so glad that the Facebook group somehow by the Lord came back. I don't know how it happened because they had denied my appeal and then two days later I get a text from Melissa that was like, "Oh, hey, the Facebook group's back." And I was like, "What the heck?" They just decided I don't know if they did another review of it.
I don't know.
I bought the one month deal and then wanted and they wanted to charge me $2.49, so I signed up with a different account.
Um, yeah. I don't know why they they brought the Facebook group back, but they did.
Yes, Natalie, we definitely can do that.
Um, shoot me an email and we'll try at uh my emails or like a DM on make if you guys are messaging me. I have a few more minutes, guys, and I have to hop off.
But if you guys are messaging me on the on Facebook, make sure that you do the Britney Rose.
Are you really at 37K? Almost 38K, but yes. Um, if make sure you guys do the Britney Rose GLP one if you're messaging me on uh Facebook, I cannot access the Britney Rose one. And I I think it's um I don't know what happened because they gave me the Facebook group back, but they didn't give me access to that account back. I'm suspended for a couple weeks, I think. So, if you message me, do the Britney Rose GLP one, the one or GLP, the one that I'm currently commenting with in the group. Use that one to message me. Um, or else I won't see it. I think we're still live on Dr. Taylor's uh Instagram, which is great. But I'm about to sign off here anyway.
Yeah, Christy, we're at 37K. Yay.
I mean, I don't know if we are, but it still has I Yes. Can see you. Are you watching from Dr. Taylor's thing, Jay Thomas on his Instagram?
That's funny. I guess he gave I guess I like have access to it somehow. Um, and he uh he left it on. That's [snorts] fine.
Don't talk about the discount stuff. Uh, I don't think he really cares, y'all.
Uh, hey, hey, Dr. Taylor's viewers. If you want to come follow Britney Rose JLP1, you just go ahead and do so. We're great over here. [laughter] I guess it's like he had to attach his stuff to the Streamyard to do it and I guess it just kept going live. But anyway, we are about to hop off of here.
Does anybody have any last minute questions? We've been talking for an hour and a half now. Um, yeah, I don't think he he probably doesn't care.
Like, yeah, we're we're just a little trio now. Me, Dr. Taylor and uh and Tiffany. So, it's okay. Um, does anybody have any last minute questions before I hop off of here? I heard my children come back in the house. Chris took them to to do some shopping. Probably spent too much money so that they would be quiet while I was doing this. But, does anybody have any last questions? If you do, if you have any questions about anything, but specifically the bell, because it does end, like I said, on Sunday, shoot me a message either on Facebook Messenger or on uh YouTube. By the way, you can you can do a a YouTube um message now. So, fun fact, you can do that now, too. Um shoot me a message somewhere with your question and I will try to respond to it. Yes. Thank you guys all so much for being here.
Thank you for always welcoming Dr. Taylor and asking him all the amazing questions.
Okay, Natalie, I will check my messages when I hop off of here. All right, guys.
I will see you I guess Monday unless you know I decide to to hop on at some other point. Today's Thursday, right? Yeah.
Okay. Bye guys. Bye everybody.
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