This video demonstrates that scamming is not limited to specific collectible categories like Pokemon cards but occurs across all product categories on trading platforms. The content reveals multiple scam patterns including: sellers hiding pack contents during live openings, fake graded cards, order cancellations after winning gambling games, sellers changing usernames to evade bans, and platforms failing to enforce their own terms of service. The video emphasizes that buyers must exercise extreme caution, verify sellers independently, and understand that platform support often provides inadequate recourse for victims.
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Whatnot SCAMMERS From Pokemon Cards To Everything Else
Added:Hey guys, welcome back. It's whatnot time and we got a special episode today because all those people that are like rattle, it's only the Pokemon cards.
Everything else that I buy on whatnot.
I'm not getting scammed. So, we're going to dabble into a couple of the other categories and see if it's just Pokemon that's getting scammed on on the whatnot or if it's the whole platform.
Spoiler, it's the it's the whole platform.
So, we go to Lerseius here who says, "What not Pokemon seller flipping whale selling Real Packs? No rare in the pack." So, surely a seller will notice if there's no rare in the pack, right?
That's got to be a weird little thing.
Surely he won't pause and keep going.
Let's take a look at the clip.
>> We in the value now.
>> Surging sparks. We got Oh, no. Not the only showing the front of the pack and cutting the top off of it is a little bit suspicious. That's not looking good.
>> That trash can look.
Dino, Dna, Taurus, Terminator, Xernius, Crocalore, and we keep going.
Pack four.
That's That's There's some red flags there. There's definitely some red flags there.
the pack method of opening the not showing the back at all the getting the the pack off the screen, the not noticing that there's no rare in there whatsoever. There can be mistakes made by the factory, but I'm just saying there's a whole lot of red flags there on top of that. We got the account here just in case we need to keep an eye. But uh be very careful if somebody's reselling packs and they're not the dumbest of dumb. You're not going to have any way of knowing. You're basically trusting the person on the screen there to make sure they haven't searched it or the packs could be searched because if it's from a booster box and a big hit came out of that booster box, even in English, there's a good chance the rest of those packs are not going to have one of those big hits.
Pull an SR from a booster box. You're not getting another one. We have Bluntless Wonder. Avoid poker collect GR SZ.
Okay. What What's going on here? Let's take a little look. So, they're blaming their local up USPS. Unfortunately, has a 1.2 star rating. We have allowed that all packages end up missing and they just don't give me answers on it and we try to keep a good relationship with them, but it's very tough. If you're not happy with your order when it arrives, I totally don't mind refunding your entire order and you don't have to ship anything back.
I won't say no to that. That would be appreciated and I absolutely will make sure I leave a positive review. So, it seems they're missing four cards out of their order. Two weeks to ship, missing half my order, nothing sleeved, and then tries to blackmail me for the refund, refuses to refund until I took down my negative but honest review. Seller asked me to put in for a refund, but then is upset for whatnot holding the money. I'm confused on what he even meant. But nonetheless, whatnot still has yet to step in. So, this seems to be the case where they'll they're like, "Oh, remove the negative review before they make it right." But the problem with that is they claim that like or they they want to let on that you can just you can leave another negative review after after you take it down. But that seems to not be the case. So they're probably just trying to get the negative taken off of there I guess. But also surprise guys, the account is no longer active.
What not? You're abandoning people now.
Holy moly. That's uh few and far between. Speaking of few and far between, we have Possession 4321 saying, "Stop." This man looks pretty familiar.
Where have we seen this guy before?
Exod. That name doesn't ring a bell.
Could it be that he changed his name?
Uh, yes, he has changed his name. He used to be Mr. Shifty, and we saw him on the channel here. Apparently, he's not banned yet. He's already got a couple Reddit threads about him. He's definitely been featured in one of the whatnot videos on the channel here. Uh, and this individual says they bought 3,000 worth of singles from him about a year ago, sent them to get graded, and all but one came back as altered.
Yeah, that's uh not a surprise. Why is he not banned? Surely. And like we got this one. There's several people in the thread here claiming they got scammed by this guy. This one for $8,000 a while back. spent three months going back and forth with whatnot support with tons and tons of evidence. I had hundreds of photos and clips from his stream TLDDR.
He sold me cards that he labeled as gem mint, mint, or near mint plus. Most of the cards were actually heavy heavy play or damaged on stream. The condition of the cards look good, but when I got them, most of the cards had hidden creases, dents, or were altered.
He's can just change his name to Exodex and uh and keep going.
I don't know how and why. Well, I kind of know how and why. It's like seems like it's a little bit designed to protect people that are doing something shady and want to change their name so that people can't identify them. Maybe people won't notice. Maybe people won't go do the research on the Reddit threads to keep up with what the name is. Now, if you purchase from this person and you have messages and you go check them, then you'll see that they changed their name. But if you didn't, you might just think this is a new cool seller and they retain all their their feedback. So, not even an example of the uh the vetting process sort of failing people in in the form of like somebody gets banned and they just make a new account whether they use somebody else's ID or anything like that. If there was a screening process in place where the person has to go on there and show what they have and show what they're doing, show what they're selling and then the whatnot staff can identify like, hey, this is a scammer that was banned from the platform previously.
Probably not. That's hopeful thinking here. What do we have? We have OP Model 3 scams me out of a manga card, keeps my tip, then blocks me. We're not going to watch the the whole thing here because it is a lengthy video, but we are going to get an idea of what's going on here.
And I know guys, refrain from talking about it in the comment section, but we do have another example of a whatnot scammer who has hand tattoos.
That is just a coincidence.
>> Get it, chat. Let's get it in case break free.
No leader. No leader.
What we get, chat? What we get? Let's get to the money. Boom. Beautiful SEC.
That's how you do it. Love it. Double hits. Double hits, guys. Let's get W's in the chat.
>> Beautiful. Scare money don't make no money.
>> Beautiful manga. Beautiful. Oh, this is a This is the freaking manger. I just realized that.
That's how >> So didn't realize it was a manga. Like I'm not even the One Piece art collector.
Surely you got to notice that right away, right? You're not just on here selling this stuff because it's you can make a quick buck and keep the hits, right? We have the order cancelled.
Item is damaged. Item got damaged during packaging.
was packaged on stream.
He He puts it into the top loader.
It's in the It's in the top It's in the top loader. It goes into It's already It's already packed. What are you doing to it that you damaged it? I don't think it was damaged. And as people are going to point out, he had some feedback. If you looked at the reviews, they did this to someone else as well. Now, whatnot did credit the original buyer. It's unfortunate that they got what they got whatnot credit for it because now they're going to go to another stream and maybe they get scammed again.
So, you had to pay out 1,100 bucks.
Over,00 bucks for this thing.
Surely you're going to ban him, right?
Surely he if he if he did this multiple times, his account isn't still active, right?
There isn't another feedback here saying that they got the wrong card, that it got swapped out. So, he's taking the hits. So, not only did the people get scammed who were supposed to re receive the hits, but everyone else that bought booster packs and got their stuff, they had no chance at getting the manga because if he wasn't going to ship it to the person that got it, he wasn't going to ship it to you either. So, yes, everyone should be refunded that purchased from any of that break. Crazy.
King Flub 202. I'm so tired of cancellations. Yeah, that's a real thing. You hit something good, it's going to get cancelceled. If you don't hit anything, he's going they're going to ship the cards. They're going to ship whatever they whatever you purchased. In this case, we have football and basketball singles. Or if they set an auction, they set a gambling game and it doesn't go in their favor.
Cancellation, baby.
Car cards caught on fire. I'm sorry.
That's They can't even They're They're not even trying to be sneaky with the with the reasoning for like why it's damaged. They caught on fire.
Are we buying that? Is anyone buying that? Is the account still there? It is.
So, yes, even though we had a we had an example where we had a ban going down.
H Disney Loungefly seller crashes out over a two in 40 set. Can't make this up. So even the Disney adults are victims on the whatnot platform. Uh, in this case, it's mostly just a a scenario where we have, if it doesn't go in the way, the sellers, the whatnot sellers who create the gambling games, the whatnot sellers who create the starting amount for auctions, they're going to get upset when it doesn't go in their favor. The odds are against you, but if you win, oh man, they are not going to be happy.
>> Wow.
That's peachy.
>> I don't know why we're trying like this, honestly. Hippie, thank you so much. Yeah, I'm done. This is I don't want to do this. I'm going to set it.
And um if you guys want to play, you want to play. If not, that's that's that's some BS. Aqua, I'm done, dude.
I'm done. Honestly, >> what happened? What's the matter? Well, usually no matter what, when anyone does them two and 40s like that, it does stay pretty low the first few times. It's like, oh, the mom and Beetlejuice, they're lost. I'm lost in the sauce right now. This is crazy. Here we go.
>> Me too, Randy. Me too. But this is uh this is bad.
>> Stop running those gibbies. Honestly, >> I'm not running any more giveaways. So, >> we go we got the >> if that's what you're here for, see >> that thing that's bringing you into the stream and putting the stream towards the top of the category and that's potentially getting people in there that want to bid on something when they see something they're like, "Nah, cancel them. We're losing money because our gambling game, you got lucky on it.
Screw you guys." Or you don't want to pay enough for the gambling game because we auctioned it off. Screw you guys. No more giveaways. We're not We're not doing anymore. Oh my goodness, that's crazy.
Yeah, we got we got some uh some AI slop going on there. Unusual celest in the neighborhood of 230 boners.
Seller is not sending and not responding to messages. I am actually looking at comments on his profile and it looks like he has a habit of doing this recently.
Bad news for you. It's a habit across the platform because it goes very unpunished. If it was a $7 pack, I'd write it off at a couple hundred bucks.
I'm pretty pissed. What not issued a $10 credit and keep sending me obvious generic responses. Do I have any next steps or am I screwed? If you pester whatnot support enough, people have messaged like a CEO.
Maybe maybe you you get some credit. You get $230 credit, but like what is this?
What kind of hostage fetish is this? It's still a gvy.
What What are we What are we talking about here?
You're going to bring people in. It's advertising.
No seller mentioned here. You should you should absolutely mention the seller, but again, it's a lot of them legit sellers. Here's a little example of somebody that almost almost realizes that they shouldn't be on the platform.
Kangaroo Jack Rabbit. I don't post on Reddit much, but I really needed to make this. I am one of the many people who foolishly fell for quality pulls and I'm pretty certain I'm not going to get the cards I overpaid for. I'm very new to the app, and I need your help. And you list some legit accounts/sellers that won't screw me over. I'm definitely learned my lesson about how much to bid.
Any help is appreciated. specifically Pokemon.
When I start reading these, I'm just like, "Oh, please please just realize that you should not purchase on this platform."
And then they don't they they're just looking to go somewhere else on the platform. And of course, the thread is filled with people like, "Oh, I won't scam you. Come on under my show, Linkree. Before we get into more, we have more Pokemon. We have more Ether.
Don't you go anywhere. If you want to support the channel here, no, I'm not going to scam you on whatnot. I'd rather you guys use the free ways to support the channel. Free ways are the best ways, including the Discord.
Rattle, how and why are there a 100,000 people in your Discord?
Free restock notifications.
Do not waste $7.99 a month on them. Buy your own packs. Open your own packs.
Pretend to scam yourself if you need if you need if that's what gets you off.
Pretend to scam yourself. I take the take the hit off screen real quick and then you still own the card. PSA Pikachu secure scar shop card market by collector app for tracking your collection. Discount codes. Make sure it's stuff that you actually want. Save some money while you do. Support the channel while you do. And then we got click before you shop. Affiliate links.
Thank you to everyone that uses those.
You're the reason why everything's free.
The content, the Discord, all of it.
Thank you guys. All right. Card market.
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Singles are your friend. Be careful with the brand spanking new single, the pumped up stuff, whether it's new or old. Be careful what you're buying. Be careful the new shiny thing. Be careful the thing that everyone wants, especially if it's all of a sudden. If like no one wanted it, but now they want it.
Careful with that. If you're from Europe, you can buy on there. If you're not from Europe and you want regional variants, you can make a friend over there that you know and trust.
Make sure that they're not going to scam you. Oki bass shack scummy whatnot seller says a suspicious rip 8434.
And yes, we have more examples of people breaking the law and breaking whatnot terms of service. And um you guys can guess down below whether or not you think these guys are banned before we even take a check.
We're gonna put the buyers giveaway up, guys.
>> We're going to move this just in case there's any form fillers in here.
>> Was like required by line.
>> That way nothing's on screen. I will.
It'll be uh sellers discretion if you know what I mean.
>> But if we need to run more, we can run.
>> We're going to break some laws here if you know what I mean.
>> There's just some uh 38 tungsten and green pumpkin.
>> So you get a different giveaway is go is up, guys.
>> Very nice of them to admit that they're breaking the law even though they don't want to word it that way. That's what they're doing here. You have to have the same prize across the board. There has to be a free method of entry. Free and easy method of entry. Both according to the terms on whatnot and according to the law. Weird how that goes and weird how people are just allowed to be on the platform breaking laws, breaking terms and uh do not get banned for it. This should be like immediate ban. It should be like if whatnot wants to cover their ass and make sure that everyone's following the law, not to mention their terms. Otherwise, like how do you trust whatnot if whatnot doesn't enforce their own rules and the law?
Your guess is as good as mine, but there are people who do. We have Mr. Tabaggins. That's an inappropriate name.
Is this a fair slallowed game? The answer is no, but we're going to read into it. This is the new uh the new Sketchy. the new sketchy since the uh we're not allowed to do the the guess the energy match the energy type games after all the Blake scams that went down. This is the new one.
No, you're not allowed. You're not allowed to do this. Why not doesn't enforce it? Probably because they enforce very little on the platform.
They want to make their money.
All right, we have Charizard number four. Flamy Flamy Flamy Flamy pack coming up. All cards come with come fresh from a brand new factory sealed celebration's 25th anniversary ETB. If your card is pulled from that pack, the card is yours. It only counts if it comes out of your pack. The same card pulled from any other pack does not count. Gift emoji. If your card is not pulled, you won't go home empty. You'll be sent a random EX or holo card from a different pack, English, Japanese, or Chinese. No refunds, no cancellations.
So, what they're doing here is you many people are going to get tricked into thinking that they are buying into a break, maybe the entire ETB. You're not.
You're getting you have to pull the specific card that you purchased from the specific pack that you purchased, and they're just going to keep everything else. Now, I know what you're saying, Rattle. I You don't have to be a statistician to know that you're you're probably not getting that exact card from that one pack and you're paying for it. You're getting hosed. You're getting absolutely hosed here. This is going to confuse the people that don't look into it enough, but not to mention the fact that it's just not allowed on the platform in terms of uh no, totally against the rules. guessing game forbidden. And the reason why they're going to send you that other random bolt card is because they need to have a label associated with it. And uh this is definitely something that needs to be cracked down by whatnot.
Are they going to? No. I have zero hopes or expectations that they're going to do anything about it. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. But again, it's like you have terms and conditions and rules and laws. Like what's it take before something gets done?
Maybe it takes another Blake incident.
It needs like national coverage, every news outlet in existence bringing it up before and then even then people didn't get refunded. Visual figure 501 big seller giveaway. Can sellers cancel giveaways just because the winner did not comment? No, they can't. That's the uh that's the the long and short of it.
That is not the requirement to enter.
That is put in forth by the platform and by supposed to be the requirement put in place by the seller. Uh just because somebody doesn't reply doesn't mean that uh that there's no giveaway. Doesn't matter how they entered, they get it, they won it, they entered, they win.
>> And you got to make sure you're not a botter. I'm rerunning it, >> bro. You have 20 seconds, bro. I haven't seen one W from Fangi.
>> Where are you, >> bro? If you're a bot, I'm rerunning it.
>> Hope he didn't go to the bathroom.
>> Has anybody seen him type? Chat, has anybody seen him type?
No I'm not even joking.
>> Frankie, where you at?
>> No troll He's not. He hasn't typed.
>> 10 seconds and we're doing it again.
>> All right, >> bro. He has 10 seconds. 9 8 >> Costco bundle >> 7 6 5 4 3 two All right, it's back live. Go. It's back live. Go.
>> It's back live. Go.
>> And how it works. Sorry guys, not still active in case anyone was wondering.
Seek spam. What not streamer canceled my ETB order and blocked me after an hour of the stream ended. Your order has been cancelled by the seller. Hi Sea Stakes fam. Zool has cancelled your order because this item is damaged from the seller. I regret to inform you man. Sad face. while putting things away. I dropped two boxes and they ripped. So, this is one that we looked at previously. We have an update for it and the corner crushed and nearly fell on them. I I'll need some time to snag new ones. Come to my next show. I'll make it right. So, the seller was like or the uh the buyer wanted it even if it was crushed. He was going to open it. Cancelled, blocked, all the like. And it seems like he changed his username. How will we ever find him? Oh no. Vaulted Legends. How we going to find you?
Yeah, just another instance of like same Change your name. Uh there's no indication. There should be an indication on a page that is essentially just an empty page that the user changed their name.
No cancellations.
That's That's funny coming from someone that canceled an order, crushed a crushed an ETB. I assume in my opinion, it is likely that they did that after the fact. We have fake coins. Osnom 208.
Whatnot needs to figure out a way to stop the sellers from banning people for simply just asking questions and trying to authenticate. The coin weight exactly 13.5 G.
All I said was it's a little suspicious and I got banned. And uh we have some coin experts to chime in. I am not a coin expert, but we have West audience 478 who seems like they are. Says just by looking at it, you can see it's fake.
I have a real one of these and that's easy fake to spot. The face is all wrong. Looks like Trump almost. The coin is way clean for 1832. Looks almost brand new. The eye and liberty is weird.
The eyes are also very wrong along with the mouth. Jeez, it just gets way worse the more I look. That's because I got to go the stars of Space Wrong.
Is it a little a little bit ironic that his name is Real Metal Guy? I guess it's probably real metal, right? It's not necessarily a real coin um or what it's representing. Here's the real one for reference in case anyone wants to do their own uh investigation or comparison.
and uh Premiier Shop. A premier shop that bans you for questioning whether something's legitimate or not.
Interesting. All right, that's all I got for you today, guys. Hopefully the variety was a nice little switch up. And uh and now you can't you're not allowed to comment down below that it's only Pokemon cards because it seems to be across the board on the entire platform.
The we didn't even touch on a lot of the like makeup stuff, the cosmetic stuff that gets real dicey as well. Thanks for tuning in. You guys have a a lovely Monday. See you next time. Bye.
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