In criminal self-defense cases, the outcome depends on multiple factors including the defendant's prior relationship with the victim, evidence of premeditation, the level of force used, and whether the defendant had a reasonable belief of imminent harm. In the Kase Allison case, the court granted self-defense because Allison had a prior hostile relationship with the victim, communicated his intent to fight, and the victim initiated physical contact first. In contrast, Carmelo Anthony's case did not grant self-defense because there was no prior relationship, no evidence of planning, and the prosecution successfully argued that Anthony was the aggressor who did not have a right to defend himself.
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Added:[bell] Welcome, welcome, welcome. Come one, come all. And today I have a show for you. The fallout after the Carmelo Anthony verdict is still on the way. It is still going. And you have everybody giving interviews. And I mean everybody, even the judge. Now, I ain't never known for a judge to give no interview after conducting the trial. This got this is like my first time. As many trials I've been covering lately, and you know, I've been a part of a judge giving an interview after the trial.
Like, bro, they got they trying to get ahead of something or something like it the judge, man. We gonna get into that. But this first video I want to go over is by I am not a lawyer, but she does very good work when it come to court cases. She get information and she put it out there in a presentable way where she do not pick a side or have any judgment on what she got. She just give you the information and let you be the judge of what the information entails. So what she did was she compared the two cases that a lot of people are comparing right now and that is Carmelo Anony's case and Kase Allison's case. Kase Allison was also a student in Texas just like Carmelo Anthony was a student in Texas and up under the law they both pleaded self-defense and case Allison case went a certain way and that is probably why a lot of people were so irate and upset when it came to the verdict of Carmelo Anthony when they seen what happened with Kase Allison only to see what happened with Carmelo Anthony. And that's probably why a lot of people put their faith in the justice system and thought that it'll work in Carmelo Anony's favor.
So, I'mma I'mma We going to get into all of that, man. We I seen uh Dr. uh Matthews, I think her name is too. They they man, she out here got all kind of allegations, right? She got all kind of allegations, man. We going to touch on all of that, too, because the judge touched on all the allegations about him knowing uh Austin Med's father and also the DA. He said that was null and void.
He said he does not know them personally. So, we going to get into all of that, man. I told you I got a show for y'all today, man. We about to rock it out, man. So, y'all make sure y'all hit that like button, man. Don't forget to run them likes up, man. Let's go. We already got 30 something people in here.
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Let's get to it.
A lot of people have been commenting and DMing me this picture, which compares the verdict and sentence for Carmelo Anthony versus the verdict and sentencing for another man whose name is Kase Allison. And I'm not a lawyer, but I decided to do a little digging to see what the actual similarities and what the actual differences are between these two cases. So, let me tell y'all what I found. So, first, let me fill you in on Kasein's actual case. So, back on May 3rd, 2022, Kase Allison, who was 18 at the time, was a senior at Belton High School in Texas. It was a Tuesday morning, and around 9:47 a.m., him and another friend of his walk into the boys's bathroom at the school. And by the time Kase left, he had stabbed his 17-year-old classmate Joe Ramirez. Now, context as to what led up to the stabbing is that prom was four days earlier. And while the two of them were at a prom afterparty, they got into it because Joe felt like Kase was being aggressive toward the prom date of one of Joe's friends. So, they have this verbal altercation, and Kase claims that Joe pulled a gun on him during this altercation. But, it's worth noting that a friend testified at the trial that it wasn't Joe. it was someone else.
>> A friend of Allison shared today that he saw someone pull a gun on Allison at the prom afterparty, but it was not Ramirez.
>> So, the two of them have this argument and afterward, a Snapchat group message is created where Kase suggests that the two of them should fight at a park.
Joe apparently says he's not really down for the park. So, the two of them plan to fight at the school, but they never lock down a time and a place. Now, before the day of the fight, multiple of Joe's friends testified that he told them he planned to seriously injure Joe.
>> Another close friend of Allison returned to the stand today discussing text messages between the two of them. And those texts contained things like Allison saying, "Bro, bring me a gun."
Quote, "He wanted Joe on life support and wanted to stomp his head in."
>> And then when detectives pulled Kasein's Snapchat messages, >> hold on, hold on, hold on. He said what?
He wanted to do what?
And they got the messages to prove it.
They got the evidence that he what?
>> They heard a voice recording of him telling someone, quote, "We going to catch them tomorrow and I'm going to send him to the hospital." What?
>> So that all happens in between prom and Tuesday, May 3rd. And then on Tuesday, the school day starts. And after first period, Joe and four of his friends go to the boy's bathroom because that is apparently something they did every day.
But this time, shortly after they go to the bathroom, the school cameras catch Kase and a friend of his also walking into that same bathroom. Now, according to the testimony from the trial, this meetup was not planned, and Joe was actually surprised to see Kase in the bathroom. Multiple witnesses who were also in the bathroom at that time testified that Kase did not want to fight at school. He emphasized they were close to graduation and he did not want to risk that, but Joe apparently wanted to fight. In a recorded interview with detectives, Kase says that once the boys started taking off their backpack, he took out a knife that he had brought to school with him and said, quote, "Don't touch me or I'll stab you." At this point, a student that was also in the bathroom takes out his phone and begins recording the altercation. And on that video, he captures Joe swing on Kase.
Kase lunge and stab Joe. Then there's a scream and the video cuts. Now, all right. So, let me see if I gathered all this information just yet. Like, cuz this is It sounds to me with all of this, they have everything they need to convict of the Mword, right?
premeditation.
Already got the evidence for premeditation that he planned on severely injuring, if not unaliv.
Joe was caught by surprise in the bathroom, probably thinking that Kase came to fight because they were supposed to fight. They had already agreed to fight.
And Kase walks into the bathroom.
Kase then says that he don't want to fight, but Joe does, right?
So, Joe swings a punch. It doesn't sound like Joe even landed or touched Kase.
Kase then swings back with a knife.
after Kase already threatened Joe.
He already threatened Joe.
If that doesn't sound like the M wrapped on a silver platter, then what is it?
Y'all let me know. Drop down in that comment section. Following this incident, Kase is caught on the cameras running out of the bathroom. He ends up making it all the way to his house. But because multiple students were witnesses, they were able to tell police and officials that Kase was the one who did this. So, law enforcement arrives at Kase's house within the hour, and they find him in his bathroom on the phone telling someone he quote did something at school and asking them to take him to Waco, Texas, another city. Police search Kase's house and they find the knife that he used. And although Kasein told them he only stabbed Joe one time, the medical examiner testified on the stand that Joe was actually stabbed four times.
>> We learned there was one large stab wound across Ramirez's chest which caused multiple injuries to both the heart itself.
>> Hold on. Hold on. I got to play that back. A stab in the chest that caused multiple injury including to the heart.
a stab to the chest that caused multiple injuries, including to the heart.
>> Only stabbed Joe one time. The medical examiner testified on the stand that Joe was actually stabbed four times. We learned there was one large stab wound across Ramirez's chest which caused multiple injuries to both the heart itself and the left lung as well as two stab wounds on his buttocks and a wound on his upper back and left forearm. So following this, Kase was charged with murder. But during the trial, the jurors were given the option to convict him of murder, manslaughter, or criminally negligent homicide. and his jury chose criminally negligent homicide, which in layman's terms means you've committed some kind of negligent act that you didn't realize would end up killing somebody. And so for this conviction, Kase was sentenced to 10 years in prison. Now, for this, >> he committed a negligent act that caused someone to lose their life that he did not willingly know. How did he not willingly know that?
How did he not willingly know that? By stabbing him four times. And if he was stabbing him in the back and in the buttocks, that means at that point he was no threat to Kase and Allison.
But then again, he only had his fist, right? He only had his fist. And then why would case Allison take a knife to school in the first place?
You're not supposed to have a knife on school premises.
So why would you even take the knife in the first place?
Can somebody answer me that question? So maybe now people will understand why people were so frustrated and so irate and so flabbergasted, which I don't understand why they were because they know how the system works for certain people. When you can see a case like this that should have been open, closed, casket, open and closed. It should have they should have came right back like this.
But for some reason, they didn't feel like they wanted to send him up the river for the rest of his life.
So they felt more about his life and his future than they did the victim in this case.
That's how it looks to me.
The value of his life was much more important than the value of Joe's life.
They didn't even give him They didn't even give him the M.
They didn't even give him the M.
They didn't They didn't even give him manslaughter.
They didn't even give him manslaughter.
But you know, this is how it goes time and time again.
Same crime, lesser outcome. That's how a lot of people feel. Same crime, lesser outcome.
But let's keep going.
For the sake of full context, there was some testimony that Joe and his friends were known to get in fights and apparently known to jump people. Okay, so that's the background. Now, let's do a quick run through of some of the similarities and some of the differences. First up, there's a clear difference in the history each of these defendants and their victims had with each other. Kase and Joe obviously went to school together and had some hostility with each other, even if only for 4 days. Carmelo and Austin Metcap, on the other hand, had no history. They didn't go to school together and they did not know each other before that day.
Next, let's talk about the planning aspect. So, it's clear from the Snapchat messages that Kase and Joe were planning to fight. In fact, according to what was presented, Kase was the one who first suggested a location for the two of them to fight. And he communicated to multiple people that he planned on seriously injuring Joe through this fight. As far as planning on Carmelo's hand, there was no evidence presented in his trial that there were any communications or planning involved indicating that he was looking for this fight. Now, they both did have knives on them on the day of the incident that they brought to school grounds, but based on the evidence that was presented, Kasein communicated his intention on using that knife, and there was no evidence presented that showed Carmelo communicated his intent with the knife. Okay. Next, let's talk about the threat or warning that both of the defendants gave to their victims. Kase told detectives in his recorded interview that he told Joe prior to stabbing him, quote, "Don't touch me or I'm going to stab you." And that has a lot of similarity to what Carmelo told Austin before he stabbed him, which was quote, "Touch me and see what happens."
Okay. Now, let's talk about level of force. In Kase's case, there was video evidence that showed Joe punched him.
And during the trial, there was testimony that that punch resulted in Kasein having a closed head injury. And there was also claim from people on the witness stand that when they were all in the bathroom, Joe and his friends locked the bathroom door to prevent Kase and his friend from leaving. But that claim was never proven. It was just something somebody said on the stand. Now, in Carmelo's case, on the other hand, there was never any consistent testimony about how hard Austin touched Carmemelllo before Carmelo stabbed him. Someone said it was a push. Someone said it was a two-handed push. Other people said it was a shove. And one person even said it was a lineman move. So, the one thing that is for certain is that it wasn't a punch. But the one thing that's similar between the two cases is that the victims in both cases committed the first assault or unlawful touch. Next, let's talk about what happened after the stabbings. So, in Kasein's case, he left the school premises, went to his house, and officers caught him on the phone trying to get a ride out of the city.
Carmelo, on the other hand, did leave the tent where this incident happened, but he was stopped by a coach where he remained on scene until police came.
Okay. And now, the last comparison I've noted has to do with the verdict. So, in both cases, jurors had the option to convict the defendants of murder or manslaughter. But in Kasein's case, they were also given the option of this criminal negligent homicide. Carmelo's attorney did ask the judge for this option, but the prosecutors argued that that should not be an option for the jury because there isn't quote any evidence in the record that the defendant was unaware that his actions could lead to death. And after hearing that argument, the judge sided with the prosecutor and so this option was not given as a lesser included charge to the jury. So, since both of these cases happened in Texas, the defendants were given the option to have the judge issue their sentence or the jury issue their sentence. In Kasein's case, he chose the judge who ended up sentencing him to the maximum allowed for criminal negligent homicide, which is 10 years. Carmelo, on the other hand, chose the jury to issue his sentence, and they sentenced him to 35 years, where the max was 99. Okay.
So, that's my comparative analysis and I'm curious what you think about the similarities and the differences between these two cases. So, do you feel like it's a fair comparison or not?
>> I think it was a fair comparison. I think she did a very good job.
>> I think she did a very [applause and cheering] good job of breaking down each case.
Right. [cheering] She did a very great job of breaking down each case. So I think it was a very good fair comparison on what took place depending on people logic. Those whose logic is he used the knife against hands he's a M. Okay. So by your logic then so is Case Allison. But that isn't what the jury decided.
That isn't what the jury felt was the proper charge.
Even with all of that evidence, even with all of that evidence, him pre-meditating that he was going to severely harm him, he was going to severely hurt him, even stating that he was going to stab him.
Even him trying to flee to another city or county still was not enough for that jury, mind you, because that was a whole another 12 person jury. It ain't the same jury. Before people get to jumping in the comment section talking about, "Oh, it ain't the same jury." I know.
So, I'm let let me say that. It's not the same jury, right? It's the same laws in the same court system in the same state with very similar things involved.
and he was able to get the very less the the very bare minimum charge in time that you could have got for any of that type of stuff or that crime. Why? Because he chose to use a knife in a fist fight. And since he chose to use a knife in a fist fight, it was improper self-defense.
But what that tells me is they granted him the selfdefense.
That's the difference between him and Carmelo Anthony.
They did not even grant Carmelo Anthony self-defense at all.
Meaning if Carmelo Anthony didn't even use the knife, if Carmemelllo Anthony just fought back, he could have been charged with assault because that jury felt like he did not have a right to defend himself because that is ultimately why they convicted Carmelo Anthony.
The prosecution convinced that jury that he was the angry young boy and he did not earn a right to defend himself.
That's what the prosecution was able to convince that jury. How much convincing did they need? I don't know. I'm not in their shoes. I'm not in that courtroom because that prosecution with their witnesses and their witness testimony did not prove any other aspect that they would have had needed for Carmelo Anthony to be convicted of the M-word.
They didn't. Like I said, I I can't wait till the transcripts come out. I just can't wait till the transcripts come out because that's when I can honestly give you like this is my stance. This is what I feel all the way 100. I'mma I'mma I'mma go up on that hill and I'mma lie down.
But right now, I'm just going by what I heard from people that claimed to be inside the courtroom who witnessed what was going on and who was reporting what was going on inside of the courtroom.
That's what I'm basing my judgment on right now.
So until them transcripts come out, nothing that people that was not there is going to convince me of something otherwise in the moment. Until those transcripts come out, I do not feel as though they did enough with their witnesses and their testimony to prove the M. Now, if you talking about uh the other M, manslaughter, maybe. So, they he could have got manslaughter.
But the the ultimate M, nah, they ain't do enough. They just as far as them having to prove it without a reasonable doubt based on the law. But um like I was saying earlier,
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