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[00:00:00]They use the threat of it and they say, "Well, you can't attack us bad because we have nuclear weapons." And >> what?

[00:00:06]Who doesn't attack? What?

[00:00:08]>> Same thing about Michael Jackson, right?

[00:00:10]And have you >> I don't believe the [ __ ] about Michael Jackson. I think Michael Jackson was framed. I think Michael Jackson was punished for daring to speak out on behalf OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.

[00:00:20]>> WHAT? WHERE? WHAT?

[00:00:25]>> I watched Anna's appearance on the Wise Nuts podcast and found some interesting clips. It pisses me off that like they get away with it. Why is this okay? I don't Listen, the Holocaust was wrong.

[00:00:33]The Holocaust was also a while ago. Your victim card has expired. You guys are committing genocide now.

[00:00:40]>> Were tortured the same way these Palestinian hostages are being tortured.

[00:00:43]>> We can all go back and watch the videos of what the hostages look like when they were being released. By the way, I'm not justifying what Hamas did. Taking hostages, that alone is disgusting and bad enough. However, um, a lot of Palestinian hostages get returned without their organs intact. Oh jeez.

[00:00:57]>> Israel won award.

[00:00:58]>> How many? What >> awards for, you know, the most organ transplants. Where'd they get those organs from?

[00:01:04]>> No [ __ ] Are you serious?

[00:01:05]>> Look it up.

[00:01:10]>> Was she playing Rim World? WHAT? HELLO?

[00:01:13]WHAT?

[00:01:13]>> I'm I don't make any of this stuff up.

[00:01:15]Look up.

[00:01:15]>> Look, the fact that the fact here's what you know what bothers me is that we're tortured the same way.

[00:01:19]>> I think that's what's going on. I mean, look, the Israelis were blackmailing Bill Clinton. Netanyahu was blackmailing Bill Clinton. What do you think? Um, what was her name?

[00:01:27]>> Monica Lewinsky.

[00:01:28]>> Monica Lewinsky was a honeypot.

[00:01:30]>> Yeah, >> Monica Lewinsky was a honeypot. How do you think MSAD knew about that whole situation before anyone else knew about it? I think that's what's going >> We're checking Israel was JFK.

[00:01:42]>> This >> cuz the last president I remember checking Israel was JFK.

[00:01:46]>> Well, I mean, he paid a heavy price for that allegedly. Um, >> first Catholic president, by the way.

[00:01:52]>> I mean, when it comes to JFK, you're right. I mean, he went way further than any of our presidents today would. Uh, he spoke out against Israel's clandestine nuclear program. He wanted the first iteration of Apac, I forget what the name of the name of the lobby was, but he wanted them to register as a foreign lobby. Isn't it kind of I'm not saying this is proven. There's a lot of conspiracy theories about who actually assassinated JFK, but put that aside entirely for a second. People openly express fears that Israel is going to assassinate them if they're too critical of Israel. That's why you have all sorts of politicians, media people, influencers, by the way, myself included, who have said openly on the record, I'm not suicidal.

[00:02:45]Why? Why? Why do we feel the need to say that?

[00:02:48]>> Because of Israel. Okay, these have to be AI clips. Is this real? Um, this >> is the last >> when you see our Christian politicians put the Yamaka on and pray at the wall, how does that make you feel as a Christian?

[00:03:04]>> Oh my god, >> they're not Christians.

[00:03:07]>> Yeah, it I'm not even Christian. Like, and I'm It pisses me off >> because it's just like your faith.

[00:03:14]You're not actually sincere in your faith.

[00:03:18]>> Would they do that? Did somebody from Israel come here?

[00:03:22]>> Never in a million years. What are they?

[00:03:23]>> How? She's like speed running every possible neo-Nazi trope. Like all she's speedrunning them.

[00:03:30]>> Think about Jesus. Where's Jesus right now?

[00:03:32]>> Killed by Jews.

[00:03:33]>> Is he um drowning in excrement according to the Talmud?

[00:03:37]>> So for those of for those of you watching and you guys could fact check me on this one, the Jews are still waiting for their Messiah.

[00:03:43]>> Mhm.

[00:03:43]>> Uh they said that when they build their temple in the Holy Land, that's when he'll come.

[00:03:47]>> Start a world war by the So they were exiled from their land. They need to go back to their land and build their temple. Well, they went back to their land in 500 BC. They built their temple in 200 BC and their Messiah came, but they killed him.

[00:04:03]That's that's the fact behind it. But >> religion to Jenk like very So I opened up about religion to Jenk like very very briefly recently where he's he's a hardcore atheist. So he like shut it down. Like he didn't shoot like shoot it down completely, right? But he just basically said, "No, I don't agree. I'm an atheist." There's so much evil in the world. You know what I'm saying?

[00:04:26]>> Apac didn't exist back then. By the way, RFK pressure the APC predecessor Americans, bro. JFK was assassinated in six 63. Israel had just barely won the [ __ ] six- day war and it just bar like the idea that Israel had the power back then to assassinate a sitting US president. What the [ __ ] Oh, I'm sorry.

[00:04:45]All right, that hadn't even won a year.

[00:04:46]That was 67. This is crazy. That's an insane. Everything about this, everything. Also, I'm sorry. Hold on.

[00:04:51]Wait. All that was stupid. Everything I just said was stupid. Forget all of that. Actually, you're telling me that the Assad was so powerful even 60 years ago that they were assassinating US presidents, but you're brave enough to mention this right now on open media without 24/7 billion dollar roundthe-clock security. Really [ __ ] >> I want to make sense of it. And part of me also thinks there's so much injustice. Like evil people get away with it. I don't know if Netanyahu and all the people orchestrating this genocide right now are ever going to see a day of justice in their lives.

[00:05:22]>> They're very likely in this in this world going to get get away with it. And and for me, I hope people understand what I'm saying here. I don't want to be overwhelmed with hatred. So I need to believe that there will be justice at some point.

[00:05:41]>> Jesus.

[00:05:41]>> And so if I I'm under this impression that there's never going to be justice like in the afterlife, then I feel like that's when hatred starts to fester if that makes any sense. Do you guys know what I mean?

[00:05:52]>> Yeah. Be I mean I >> opened up about religion to Jenk like very very briefly recent.

[00:05:59]>> Here's a here's the sad part of all this. When it came to the Ukraine and Russia war, America was up in arms funding the [ __ ] out of Ukraine with our tax dollars again, >> right?

[00:06:08]>> But when this poor Ukrainian refugee girl, 23 years old, came to United States for a better life, >> she was murdered. What the [ __ ] are you?

[00:06:16]Oh my god, bro.

[00:06:19]>> Coldblooded murdered, right?

[00:06:21]>> And all of a sudden, the media is just burying the [ __ ] out of this story. Why?

[00:06:25]>> Because of the racial dynamics. Let's just keep it real. Here's a here's the sad part of all this burying >> hasn't been in Iran for 47 years is going to be who hasn't been in Iran for 47 years is going to be desired by the Iranian people as their monarch. Why?

[00:06:44]Because a bunch of Iranian diaspora, mostly Iranian Jewish diaspora who value Israel before they value the Iranian people. Let's just keep it 100 because they said this You're going to trust those people. Okay. How about you guys? Can I curse?

[00:07:01]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [ __ ] those people.

[00:07:04]Number one. Beep.

[00:07:06]>> Okay. [ __ ] those people. And [ __ ] Rachel.

[00:07:09]>> You know who you are, Rachel. [ __ ] you.

[00:07:10]I'll come for you. She knows who she is.

[00:07:13]Yeah, she knows who she is. Come for my husband again, [ __ ] Who hasn't?

[00:07:18]>> But I'm sorry. In my opinion, in my opinion, no no terrorist worse than the Israelis exists. I'm sorry, but like >> they're they've trained dogs to rape Palestinian hostages.

[00:07:29]>> No.

[00:07:30]>> 100%. The New York Times of all places like Zionist publication 101 recently publicized a story about that.

[00:07:37]>> Dogs.

[00:07:37]>> Dogs. Yeah. They're using dogs to rape Palestinian host and I >> But I'm sorry. In my opinion, in my opinion, >> no no terrorist >> definitely carries weight. I got the corporate world. It definitely carries weight. I got >> I don't want to say fired because I wasn't an employee, but I was making appearance. I was flying over to New York City to do CNN debate panels.

[00:07:56]>> They dropped me. I was a investigative reporter for uh Real Clear Investigations. I was their California reporter.

[00:08:03]>> I wasn't even reporting on foreign policy. I was even reporting on national policy. Just investigative reports from California about California.

[00:08:08]>> Got fired because one member of their board didn't like my commentary about Israel. We got to get rid of her. The only reason why I'm still employed is because um I'm employed at a company that's critical of Israel. And uh you know, Jen obviously is very vocal about that stuff and he's he would never in a million years fire me over my criticism of Israel, but they've tried to destroy the company. Um you know, investors or whatever have pulled out over our criticism of Israel. And I'm not going to stop running my mouth and neither is he.

[00:08:31]>> Same thing about Michael Jackson, right?

[00:08:32]And have you >> I don't believe the [ __ ] about Michael Jackson. I think Michael Jackson was framed. I think Michael Jackson was punished for daring to speak out on behalf OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.

[00:08:43]>> WHAT? WHERE? WHAT?

[00:08:47]UM, >> I mean, he has that song though where they made him change certain words in it where >> I mean, I'm not going to say the words, but it's a it's the you don't care about us song.

[00:08:58]>> And if you listen to it today, >> those certain words that he mentioned in that song are >> redacted >> or are are blanked out.

[00:09:08]>> Yeah. But >> who was who was bedside with Michael Jackson? Who was one of his very good friends? Uh, Rabbi Schmeley. He was one of them.

[00:09:16]>> What it is today, how did it form? It was formed in the 1980s after Israel invaded southern Lebanon in an attempt to annex and take southern Lebanon.

[00:09:24]>> So, was Hezbollah funded and trained by Israel?

[00:09:26]>> No, no. Hezbollah is funded and supported by the IRGC.

[00:09:29]>> No, no, no. I'm talking about back then.

[00:09:31]>> No, no, no, no. You're confusing that with Hamas.

[00:09:33]>> No, no, I know. That's what I wanted to kind of compare it to. I wanted to see if back then. Okay. Hezbollah was formed. You said what? When?

[00:09:37]>> So, in the 1980s, >> one of the many times, it wasn't, by the way, the first time, but one of the many times Israel attempted to invade Lebanon and take the southern half.

[00:09:44]Basically, a resistant group rises and that resistance group is Hezbollah.

[00:09:48]Hezbollah forms as a way of resisting Israeli aggression and they are supported by and funded by the IRGC.

[00:09:54]That's why Israel hates Iran's regime so much because Iran's regime, by the way, we're talking about Shia Muslims. Sh in Lebanon, in Palestine, they're Sunni Muslims. Isn't it insane that Shia Muslims are the only ones in that region region defending the Sunnis?

[00:10:08]>> It is it is very strange.

[00:10:09]>> I mean, it it's strange, but >> and we've questioned it. We've said in the past, we've said, "Okay, Gaza is under attack and you have a bunch of Palestinians who are being massacred by the Israelis.

[00:10:18]>> Where are the Jordanians? Where are the Saudis? Where is UAE? Where are all the >> Israel did a great job ensuring that they have weak, pathetic governments in these countries that either do the bidding of Israel or they don't challenge Israeli aggression. That's what we're seeing in Lebanon right now.

[00:10:30]What's happening in Lebanon right now is a disgrace." How many um by the way, I I don't care if we're talking about Muslim civilians or Christian civilians or atheist civilians. Civilians are civilians in my eyes. They're people, innocent people. But a lot of Americans have been brainwashed into thinking by the Israelis.

[00:10:44]>> Wait, did you say do we get Jewish civilians or are there no Jewish civilians?

[00:10:47]>> We're talking about Muslim civilians or Christian civilians or atheist civilians. Civilians are >> are there no Jewish civilians?

[00:10:55]>> Civilians in my eyes. They're people, innocent people.

[00:10:58]>> But a lot of Americans have been brainwashed into thinking by the Israelis, by the way, that's the source of all this propaganda that like, oo, you got to be really scared of the Muslims. The Muslims are so dangerous. I mean, I don't see a Muslim country sucking up our resources, d like forcing us into debt, forcing our soldiers into fighting the wars for them. That's Israel. But okay, putting that aside, um, >> Saudi Arabia with Yemen.

[00:11:15]>> I forgot where I was going with that.

[00:11:16]Too many too many ways.

[00:11:17]>> We've been brainwashed big time.

[00:11:18]>> No, a lot of people have been brainwashed into thinking like our number one threat is Muslims in the United States, Muslims are a tiny I don't want to say irrelevant, but they're a tiny population of people who have no power.

[00:11:26]>> Well, they've even during when the Gaza war first started, right? You guys remember for months and months if not years now the media was constantly pushing what will happen if Israelis drop their weapons versus what will happen if the Palestinian they don't even call Hamas drop their weapons right I mean >> what weapons what are we talking about has anybody have you seen a Hamas member all this time have you ever seen any like looks like >> Hamas they call them freedom fighters that's what they call them but they're basically I mean they're they're Palestinians they have their own kind of >> no military >> no no they're they're freedom fighters of their own but the one thing that I will disagree with Hamas is that during the 2020 Arsak war, the leaders of Hamas did call >> Alv and Ajan and congratulated them on quote unquote um taking back land that was rightfully theirs. Okay, [ __ ] Yeah, which I turned around. I was like, you know what, bro?

[00:12:16]Again, listen, >> I'm not vouching for Hamas. All this is how they brainwash people is just like they say not every terror, not every Muslim is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a Muslim. And that's been embedded in us, right? In America, that's the propaganda. But I'm sorry. In my opinion, in my opinion, no no terrorist worse than the Israelis exists. I'm sorry, but like >> they're they've trained dogs to rape Palestinian hostages.

[00:12:39]>> No.

[00:12:39]>> 100%. The New York Times of all places, like Zionist publication 101 recently publicized a story about that.

[00:12:46]>> Dogs.

[00:12:47]>> Dogs. Yeah. They're using dogs to rape Palestinian host. And I say hostages because we're talking about Palestinians that were kidnapped by the Israelis, thrown into these, you know, torture prisons. They haven't been charged with a crime. They've never seen a day in court. They're just they just languish in these uh facilities for months and months and months. They get raped. They get tortured. If they're lucky, they might be able to make it out alive. A lot of them don't make it out alive.

[00:13:07]>> I'm curious when the when they released the Israeli hostages, how many of them were tortured the same way these Palestinian hostages are being tortured.

[00:13:13]>> We can all go back and watch the videos of what the hostages look like when they were being released. By the way, I'm not justifying what Hamas did. Taking hostages, that alone is disgusting and bad.

[00:13:21]>> How many of them have killed? Um, a lot of Palestinian hostages get returned without their organs intact.

[00:13:27]>> Israel won awards for, you know, the most organ transplants. Where'd they get those organs from?

[00:13:32]>> No [ __ ] Are you serious?

[00:13:33]>> Look it up. I'm I don't make any of this stuff up. Look it up.

[00:13:35]>> Look, the fact that the fact here's what you know what bothers me is that because obviously any >> the mess. Oh, bro. I don't whatever, man.

[00:13:40]>> You can take the clip, take it out of context and post it. Oh, yeah. Look, they support Hamas. Oh, look, they support the Oh, look, they support. But the fact that every five minutes we have to reiterate the fact that I don't advocate for this. Listen guys, we we're not a BLM, we're not an ALM, we're not an MLM. We are human lives matter. Okay?

[00:13:56]HLM. That's it. HLM. Nothing else matters. Every single human being has the right to exist. Armenian, Palestinian, Israeli, Egypt, you name it. Cuban, Egypt, everybody. Chinese, they all have the right to exist. The fact that we have the audacity to think we're going to create this [ __ ] propaganda, go killed thousands of people and then blame them for an attack that never occurred because we orchestrated the attack, we funded the attack, and then it was a false flag, but then we're going to create another propaganda and IPR. All this [ __ ] for what? I mean, what's the endgame here? And I think that's what Trump even look all these years I've never seen Trump ever. He called, you know, North Korea's leader the rocket man and he's made threats and, you know, the I think it was the al-Qaeda leader where he said, "Here's the uh your location map and you know, if you [ __ ] around, we know where you live.

[00:14:35]>> Here's a picture of your house." But he's never ever threatened a country with a nuclear bomb except for Iran, right? And why did he do that? Because I think he knows it as well that we can't [ __ ] around with these people.

[00:14:45]>> Well, he can't. They have blackmail on him, obviously.

[00:14:47]>> No, no. Meaning, we cannot have boots on the ground in Iran. There's no way we're going to survive the terrain.

[00:14:51]>> I don't know. I mean, look, I cannot You cannot have boots on the ground.

[00:14:54]>> Okay, I'm good. Jesus [ __ ] Christ.

[00:14:57]>> Yeah. So, listen, I I didn't want to go in the war in the first place. I thought it was a bad idea. You all know that, right? But our job right now is not to uh say, "Oh, Obama's deal was better."

[00:15:05]We can have that discussion. But the most important thing is let's get out of the war. Let's go towards peace.

[00:15:09]>> Kolinsky says Kamla was 100% the better option. Kyle didn't even vote for Kamla.

[00:15:13]You didn't even vote for >> So if Trump is going towards peace and towards American sovereignty, I'm 100% in favor of it. And so what do we want this theoretically this war for? Uh to end the any chance they have a nuclear weapon? Uh well, this deal ends that. Uh and then after the war started, we need to open up the straight of Hormuz. It opens up the straight of Hormuz. So American interests are completely covered. We're done. The only reason why we'd want to stay in Miriam's war is to appease the Israelis. And I think that every single person on air right now saying we have to stay longer is saying we have to stay longer for Israel so that Israel could fight Hezbollah and Hamas better. So they could take southern Lebanon. So they could drag us into endless wars. So they could destroy their regional opponents. So they could have no one to defend Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, and every other place that Israel wants to expand to. Why? Why do we care what Israel wants at all?

[00:15:52]It's none of our business. Our business is covered. Trump made a deal. It's perfectly fine. Let's get the hell out of there. We have no business in there in the first place. Our business is covered. Trump made a deal. It's perfectly fine.

[00:16:02]>> Remember, they want the Western world to fall. So a supercharged Iran is something all of these people are in favor of.

[00:16:07]>> Let's get the hell out of there. We have no business in there in the first place.

[00:16:10]Zero American interests. So as you see people betraying us and telling us that we have to stay in a war for Israel.

[00:16:14]Make note of it. And let's also make no one more thing. Pers Marjorie Taylor Green, Tom Massie were excommunicated.

[00:16:20]How dare they criticize uh Trump and want the FC files released. Now I see all sorts of Republicans, politicians, pundits, all daring to disagree with Donald Trump, saying he's wrong, attacking Donald Trump. Where are the consequences? Are they going to be excommunicated or as usual does Israel first get a special rule? They're allowed to bash Trump. They're allowed to criticize Trump. They're allowed to be for war. They always get special different rules. So, no, they won't get excommunicated. And we're about to find out who runs the Republican party and who runs this country. So, if Trump says Israel doesn't run it anymore and we're going to leave and go to peace, God bless. I'm a totally in favor of that.

[00:16:47]>> Okay. Heal, welcome to Uncensored. It seems pretty clear from the rhetoric coming out of Donald Trump that his uh steadfast support for Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel is at best teetering on the brink and potentially something heading for a complete severance here. Is that your reading of this? And is it really because from the very start of this war you've had two countries with competing agendas uh and that Israel's agenda is just simply not the same as Donald Trump's and isn't susceptible to the same political and economic risk that Donald Trump I think is now getting out of this war to try and counteract.

[00:17:16]>> No. So there's a lot there's not there's there's a lot inaccurate there in that question because you have to first of all be able to distinguish between the state of Israel and the US relationship with the state of Israel and our mutual interests and also BB Netanyahu. So let's let's start with that. The relationship with the United States and Israel is always strong. I worked in foreign policy for over 20 years. I continue to work in foreign policy and the we we have to distinguish. We have disagreements with world leaders all the time including our closest friends. You know that your >> is the dog thing true? I haven't researched it but generally all of these things will start from some event and then when you look into it no it's not really true. Arabs have been obsessed with um Jews like magically training every animal to do the craziest things.

[00:17:49]I think at one point Egyptians were literally like shooting down eagles and [ __ ] because they thought that every single [ __ ] animal had been trained by the MSAD to [ __ ] be insane or whatever. It's yeah I don't know.

[00:18:00]>> Okay, we've had ups and downs. That doesn't mean our special relationship weathers. Uh they have mutual beneficial interests. And I should add by the way I worked like I said I worked for particularly in the Middle East for a long time but specifically in counterterrorism. And it should be known that the relationship with Israel is not because it's out of some kind of charity. uh the derangement around Israel is is really odd to me and I personally don't deal in hyperbole I have to tell you uh I deal in fact only and the a number of uh the terrorist plots here in the United States are thwarted thanks to our partnership with the Israelis because when you look at nefarious actors like the Iranian regime and their terrorist proxies and other Islamist and fundamentalist and extremist groups in the region they're not trying to target the United States because our friendship with Israel they're trying to target the west and our democracy and Israel is part of that so I want to be very clear about that but the fact is to answer your question about Trump and BB sure there's now disagreement as they as they have with everywhere leader I wouldn't over emphasize that or exaggerate it to view it as some kind of brain on the relations. If there's any strain in the relations, I would see that if we have a Democrat president next because that's something that they've been talking about. The left and Democrats, they highlight that that's a very heavy part of their campaign. But on the right or with the current framework, no, we're going to have a disagreement. But Trump very much understands Israeli interests and how US national security interests are tied up in that. I want to be very clear, having worked in this for a long time, the US goes after its national security interests unapologetically. It doesn't operate. It doesn't think, oh, well, let me see how I can work and expend national treasure to benefit another country even if it's an ally.

[00:19:09]That's not how US national security functions.

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[00:19:59]>> Yeah, a couple of things. First of all, I think it's important to note that uh the JCPOA would be inactive at this point. So there was a time it had to be re renegotiated anyways. Uh the short answer is we don't know the answer to your question for two reasons. One, we haven't seen the MOOU. Number two, we haven't seen the negotiations start for the final agreement. And number three, something that I'm always concerned about, which is uh inspection and verification. The fact remains is we really don't know the capacity of and capabilities of the Iranian nuclear program because they had control over when, where, and how the IAEA could come down and inspect and verify. Uh it was a fig leaf. We really had no idea either as a country or as a world what the Iranians were capable of. So to answer your question, if we have an agreement uh that says we have unfettered inspection and verification of the terms and conditions of the agreement, yes, I think it would be a better deal.

[00:20:43]>> I want to play you, General Kim, a clip.

[00:20:44]This is Donald Trump talking about that if he doesn't doesn't like the final deal, this is what he will do.

[00:20:49]>> Is the text of the agreement now final or are you still >> No, it's not final. It's a memorandum of understanding and if I don't like it, we'll go back to shooting at them, dropping bombs on their head. When do you expect the word? I don't like it. If they don't behave, we'll go right back to dropping bombs right smack in the middle of their head.

[00:21:04]>> Now, we've had a lot of this kind of rest of Donald Trump in the last 16 weeks of this war, much of which just hasn't materialized. Do threats like that have any significance anymore? Do you think the Iranians care when Trump saber rattles like that? And is on a practical reality level, is it realistic to think that there could be say a pause of a month, two months, 60 days, whatever, and at the end of it, if Trump isn't happy, he starts the military attacks again given what's been going on for the last 16 weeks. Well, the answer to your question, your last question is of course they could start the military campaign up again. U now would it have any effect? Uh I think we've got to understand that military success up to this point has not had a strategic effect. It really hasn't changed the behavior of the Iranian regime. And part of that is simply the resistance model that is being used which says they win by not losing. They win by outlasting their opponent. We've seen that with Hezbollah. We've seen that with Hamas.

[00:21:50]Uh that is just the nature of resistance warfare. They win by not losing. Uh, in fact, if you think that they learned it from us, I they they they taught it to us. In fact, they learned it from us.

[00:21:59]That's how we beat the British in 1776.

[00:22:01]We were on the verge of military defeat repeatedly, but the Kingdom of George um got weary, said it's no longer worth it.

[00:22:08]Uh we don't want to fight anymore. It's not in our strategic interest. Um and we could be here for another 100 years and those damn colonialists will not give up. So, let's get out of here. I mean, doesn't that kind of sound like Iraq, Afghanistan, uh and now I comparison, but okay. I don't know.

[00:22:21]>> Yeah. And without that devastating reality, 250 years ago, you'd be speaking in a nice English accent, General Kimmit.

[00:22:26]>> Well, thank God we don't.

[00:22:30]>> Let me bring in Lieutenant Colonel Chuck Dev. Welcome to Uncensored. Um, we look, we do know, broadly speaking, because it's been leaked to CNN and various other Alazer, I think, as well. Now, this 14point agreement, I've read it.

[00:22:39]Um, now a lot could change between now and Friday, particularly given the ferocious backlash it's already receiving from many people who've been very supportive to this point of Donald Trump's, um, war in Iran. Um, so it may be that they go back and and change some of this, but so far what it indicates is that there will be an immediate and permanent end to the war on all fronts, including Lebanon. And both sides will undertake that from now on, Iran will not launch any hostile action against each other. Neither would and will refrain from the federal use of force against each other. Each side refrain from interfering in each other's internal affairs. Each will negotiate and reach a final agreement within a maximum 60 days. Iran will open Australia for moves to international shipping while the US will lift its naval blockade on Iranian ports within 30 days. And then this significant part I think here the rehabilitation and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran ensuring financing at least $300 billion and the unfreezing of assets of 25 billion all sanctions currently facing the Islamic Republic of Iran to be lifted. And the Islamic Republic of Iran reiter reiterates in other words repeats that it will never produce nuclear weapons. The fate of enriched material the fate of all mutually agreed nuclear related issues including Iran's nuclear needs will be adequately addressed in a final agreement and both sides agree the final agreement will be approved for a binding resolution of the UN security council.

[00:23:39]You know, I I've read that and I don't see much difference with the Obama deal, particularly on the crucial stuff like the ability to enrich uranium, the nucle. There's nothing concrete there whatsoever, which takes things, I think, any further than the Obama deal. And this idea, then Colonel Chuck, if I said to you on day one of this war at the end of it, Iran would be the losers apparently, but be given $300 billion.

[00:24:00]>> Oh, never mind. Never mind.

[00:24:02]You'd have said I was nuts, wouldn't you? No loser ends up with that, do they?

[00:24:06]>> Well, first of all, um, great to be on your show. Secondly, I think it's important to understand that all of this information we're getting about this deal is being leaked likely from one side. Just a few minutes ago, I was listening to President Trump speak with India Prime Minister Modi and he indicated that he wasn't entirely sure whether or not the deal would be to his liking on Friday. He he was basically admitting that there are details that are being worked out. But let's go and go ahead and compare the JCPOA with facts on the ground today. Uh the general mentioned a few things that I think are bear expanding upon. uh which is that the JCPOA did nothing to restrain the Iranian ballistic missile program which you could argue was technologically behind their nuclear program. Uh nuclear weapons aren't all that good unless you have a reliable long range platform that you can use to deliver those nuclear weapons. Well, that infrastructure has been largely obliterated as a result of this war.

[00:24:47]That specialty steel factory that made the alloy that was needed to make the missile bodies that has been destroyed.

[00:24:52]A lot of the missile scientists have similarly been killed as well. Uh so that's number one. Number two, the JCPOA unlocked billions and billions of dollars upfront to Iran in an attempt to buy them off. That money went directly to their proxy network throughout the Middle East to Hezbollah in Lebanon to uh >> So why wouldn't this money do the same?

[00:25:07]I don't understand. Why would so far as we know, right? Again, the details are somewhat sketchy, but so far as we know, it's all conditions based.

[00:25:15]In other words, if you behave, you may start to get access to some of this money. If you don't behave, you won't get access to it, which was very different than the JCPOA, which frontloaded the money regardless of behavior. One last point, I heard the president say that Israel had the right to defend itself against Hezbollah just this morning, but he asked that Netanyahu be circumspect about that retaliation or about the scale with which they fought back. So, he acknowledged this morning that Israel has the right to defend itself. And one last point, facts on the ground again have changed significantly. Iran doesn't have the stockpiles of munitions nor the cash to send to Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis. And if you haven't noticed, there's been a change of management in Syria, which makes it a lot more difficult to resupply Hezbollah overland or via air. It's not as easy as it was just last year.

[00:25:55]>> Okay, Brian Tyler Cohen, welcome back to Uncensity. I want to start with you by playing a clip from Mike Pence because I think this is quite a significant uh comment from somebody who was of course Donald Trump's vice president.

[00:26:04]>> It sounds like you think from what we know so far, this is a mistake by the Trump administration.

[00:26:08]>> Well, it's much bigger than a mistake. I think it's ill advised. We ought to keep the pressure on, keep the blockade on, and if need be, let our armed forces get back to work. I mean, worse than a mistake, you know, and I did say again, I don't want to play, you know, Monday morning clever dick, but I couldn't really understand why Donald Trump was doing this given all his pledges not to take America back into uh as he put them pointless Middle Eastern wars and with the obvious impact on cost of living, which he'd also campaigned on reducing the cost of inflation and so on. None of it really made much sense to me. Um, and also I couldn't see what the endgame was going to be. And now we see the endgame is at best a mess and at worst as Mike Pence, Trump's former number two and normally pretty loyal to him actually, um, saying, you know, worse than a mistake. And I did say this could end up being Trump's legacy, but it might also be something which could cost the Republicans, the House, and the Senate potentially in the midterm elections and maybe even the next general election.

[00:26:53]You know, these things have enormous consequences. Well, they have enormous consequences because everything that he's engaging in right now is severely unpopular. And Trump himself knows that it's unpopular because these are the things, as you said, that he campaigned expressly against. It was him who came out and said he was not going to engage in any of these um endless pointless foreign wars in the Middle East. It was him who said that he was going to focus on making sure the gas prices are low.

[00:27:11]Gas prices are high as a result of this war. It was him who said, you know, who even today, you want to talk about cognitive dissonance today, Donald Trump said, I'm gonna I'm going to quote this, the JCPOA done by Obama, he handed them $1.7 billion in cash. They tried to bribe their way out of it. And you know what the Iranians did? They laughed at Obama and they said he's a stupid son of a [ __ ] So that was Trump saying that today as he is in the midst of negotiating a deal where the Iranians would get not only $300 billion, but they would also have the ability to basically use the trade of Formuz as a toll route. And so on issue after issue as it relates to to this whole, you know, what does he call this? Uh, an excursion. Issue after issue, Donald Trump is undermining the very promises that he made. And yet, this is a small part of a larger hole. Everything that Trump said when he uh was campaigning has been undermined by his presidency.

[00:27:47]Whether he said that he was going to keep costs low, and of course, he launched a trade war that sent the cost of everything surging. He was going to keep gas prices low. Gas prices are high. He said he was going to uh protect healthcare. Healthcare has been gutted for 17 million Americans who rely on Medicaid. 24 million Americans who rely on the ACA. Food assistance has been gutted. That's not going to help with cost of living. Inflation is up, not down since he took office. And so, again, issue after issue after issue, Trump is undermining the very promises that he exploited people's votes for now that he's got power, now that he's got what he needs. pretty [ __ ] >> Chang, I want to play you a clip from Ben Shapiro who's furious about the prospect of this deal.

[00:28:15]>> I'm noticing that Muhammad Halibah, who will apparently on Friday be literally in a photo op with the vice president of the United States. I cannot express you how stomach hurting that is. I don't care who the vice president is. I don't care who the president is. Leaders of the United States of America in a photo op with a mass murdering terrorist supporter like Muhammad Khalib shaking hands.

[00:28:30]>> What did he say about 42,000 innocent people in the streets?

[00:28:35]>> I mean, there's something completely weird going on. question the number 22,000 Jenk no way is that where does that number come from the war in the first place and there's you opening this show by broadly supporting what the president is doing albeit not from a deep abiding love of Donald Trump but it seems that people like Ben Shapiro Martin and others you know they put all their chips in the casino on the red of Trump charging into Iran and getting rid of the regime and so on but the moment that he looks like he's not going to do Benjamin Netanyahu's bidding they've turned on him like rattlesnakes what do you what do you make of this >> yeah uh there there is one small part that I agree with Ben on. Uh so when our leaders shake hands with uh terrorist leaders who slaughter tens of thousands of civilians like Benjamin Netanyahu, it is stomach turnurning. When our Congress gives him standing ovations when he's a genocidal maniac and probably the largest terrorist leader in the world, it is stomach turnurning. But that's Netanyahu, not not anyone else. They have a worse civilian kill ratio than Hamas or Hezbollah and IDF has murdered 100 civilians of Hamas and Hezbollah. By any definition, they're a terrorist state. But it's interesting because as you point out, Shapiro and Levin um oh my god, we love Trump. Oh, he's not doing Israel's bidding anymore. We hate Trump. Did you know that Miriam made me and that's why I called it Miriam's war because her family paid over $37 million to Trump's campaigns to make sure that they got a war like this and they got the war that they ordered. Now all of a sudden they say, "Oh, there's a problem with the war we ordered." Well, that's kind of on you and not on us. So, I'll get back to that in a second, but did you know that Mary and Larry Ellison used to donate to Bill Clinton before they donated to Donald Trump because they don't care about Democrats or Republicans and neither Shapiro or any of the Israel first pundits. They only care about their beloved Israel. And it's obvious they don't change their position on taxes, on social security, on healthcare. They only change based on whether Trump is in favor of Israel's actions or against Israel's actions. So what you're seeing playing out in American media and the government is team America versus team Israel. So if you're on team America, hey, they're not going to have a nuclear weapon. That was our only concern. The straight of horror news is open. Let's bring in Ben Shapiro, editor-inchief.

[00:30:15]>> Okay, this is a long time ago. He must have been more hawkish back then.

[00:30:18]There's no way he was dick sucking Trump here, right?

[00:30:21]>> Of the Daily Wire, syndicated columnist and the host of the Benp Show. Ben, good morning to you. Morning. Hey, how are you?

[00:30:26]>> Well, we saw some history. Uh first time American president has ever exchanged words with any leader from North Korea.

[00:30:30]Now they start the detail light process of dnuking North Korea. What's your major concern? Well, >> my major concern is that if you thought of the flag that next to the American flag is a Ni flag where the North Korean flag, then I think everybody would see the concerns as a slave state with 25 million prisoners and a Google system hundreds of thousands of people wide.

[00:30:41]The president's praised for the dedicator of of North Korea was disquiting. And here here's the reality.

[00:30:44]Diplomacy is a tactic. It is not an outcome and the trialism that it seems to be appear in so many places this morning where everybody's very excited that the President Trump met with him.

[00:30:48]That's not justified by the outcome yet.

[00:30:49]Okay, maybe it will. Maybe President Trump actually got some serious concessions out of out of the Kim family, but that would be the first because virtually every other president has failed in doing that. And the piece of paper that signed yesterday is frankly weak. I mean, this is this is not a strong piece of paper. If what Trump says in that interview with Sean is exactly correct, then we'll all be celebrating. But I want to wait to see if that actually ends up being correct because there's no history of this family ever having not lied to the West.

[00:31:03]>> Well, it appears that he wants to make some changes. I mean, he fired three of his dad, three of his dad's hardliners and uh seems to be taking advice from other people instead of the people that ran that awful regime before. Clearly, this guy also has killed some of his family members. You're right about the 25 million. What does the president need to do to try to change his mindset so that he takes all these people out of captivity and treats them fairly and feeds them?

[00:31:17]>> Frankly, I think the best thing that the president has done thus far has been all of the strength leading up to this particular summit, not the actual summit itself. I think that when President Trump was demonstrating full scale that he was willing to do whatever was necessary in order to denuclearize the peninsula and to ensure that that North Korea eventually transitions into a place that was more friendly to human rights. That's a lot better than going there and patting him jung on the back.

[00:31:29]I I don't understand frankly why we would have a summit like this from the president of the United States shaking hands and giving a thumbs up to a dictator when the president we are the greatest country in the history of the world. It's the greatest country in the history of the world.

[00:31:36]>> I think more people were a little bit more criticalish of some of the Trump [ __ ] back in the first term. So I would have been surprised if we would have been a massive Trump dick suck here.

[00:31:44]>> The economy is going to get hopefully get a little bit better now, right? Then at least in the middle of the war, right? Uh if we continue in the war, the economy is definitely going to get worse. gas prices are going to go up, inflation is going to go up, and it endangers the entire global economy. So, as far as American interests are concerned, we should absolutely leave.

[00:31:56]And honestly, there's really no question about that. So, the argument that the team Israel makes now is, "Yeah, but what about Iran's uh proxies, Hamas and Hezbollah?" To which I say, "So what?

[00:32:03]Why are we facing our entire basing our entire foreign policy on the needs of a country whose population is the size of Papa New Guinea? Why do we care what Israel wants in terms of, oh no, it has to wipe out everyone who might oppose their fascist empire in the Middle East?

[00:32:15]It has to destroy Iraq and Iran and all seven of their neighbors and take uh more of Gaza, more of the West Bank. Now they we owe them southern Lebanon. Why do we owe them southern Lebanon? Well, and that's not defense. That's offense.

[00:32:24]They're stealing southern Lebanon. And no, we don't have to finance that. We have no moral or strategic or military obligation to Israel at all, which is a force for darkness in this world. In fact, literally every nation on earth is opposed to this war except one, Israel.

[00:32:38]And we're having a debate, and it's 50/50 on whether we should listen to Americans, we should listen to the entire world, or if everyone should bow to Israel and do their demands of wiping out all their neighbors so they could take their territory. No, this is a no-brainer for if you're on team America, you come home, you get the peace, you improve your economy. If you're on team Israel, you always want war. You'll always want ethnic cleansing and land grabbing. We don't have to serve their imperial empire.

[00:32:58]>> Okay. Okay. Hang up. Um, you said this week, Trump needs to tell the Iranians that Lebanon is off the table. They don't like it. We can make things more painful for them. And I want to play you a clip from JD Vance's interview with Megan Kelly on this subject.

[00:33:08]>> And then you get to the next stage.

[00:33:10]>> Is Lebanon included? Lebanon?

[00:33:12]>> It is a regional peace deal. It's going to include the Gulf. It's going to include Israel. It's going to include Lebanon. The idea is this is a true regional peace deal because again sorry for my friend.

[00:33:19]>> No, no, no. The idea is that is that if the if the Iranians comply then we are going to have a true transformed deal for the Middle East.

[00:33:25]>> Now there's a lot of ifs there Aaron but the bottom line is the Iranians have made it crystal clear that if Lebanon's not included in this deal, they're not interested in doing a deal at all. And if they want to, they can just go back and shut the straight of moose and fire a few missiles off at the Gulf States and we're back where we were before.

[00:33:37]They know they've got that now in their asymmetric war arsenal and it's very effective. So, uh, I'm not quite sure how anyone's going to bully the Iranians into excluding Lebanon from all this when they've made it a pivotal part of the deal.

[00:33:48]>> Yes, that's right, Piers. I I mean, this is the thing I would say I'm most concerned at the moment. And so, let's take it back a little bit because Iran, the Iranian regime is is struggling generally, right, with the United States of Israel has assassinated 50 of its leaders. They don't have nuclear capabilities at the moment. They've lost a significant number of their ballistic missiles. They have no military navy.

[00:34:02]They're practically bankrupt. Uh, and their currency is worth nothing. At the same time, the Iranian regime has discovered all these new cards and bargaining chips they can play that are very effective and cheap. by the way the playing in the street of Hormuz of course uh attacking the Gulf they fashioned a new terrorist group called HAI which has now launched at least 17 attacks across Europe but very few people are talking about it uh and then you have playing the Lebanon card because Lebanon the thing about Lebanon is that you can see where you've got this peace process there have been peace talks since April 14th and they're going generally well there's a long way to go I work on Lebanon peace by the way efforts I have an organization to do that and there's a lot of potential there and opportunity but the last thing that the Iranian regime wants is a any kind of peace deal normalization for any Arab country with Israel and secondly they definitely don't want to be undermined because it's their most important proxy. So the longer the military operations go in Lebanon, the weaker Hzbella gets. So the thing that to back up, you started off by saying that I had uh said that Trump should not sell Lebanon to Iran and that when Iran insisted that Lebanon be included in these talks, my opinion is that Trump should IDF has dogs that rape. Is that true? No. Almost certainly not.

[00:34:56]>> No, Lebanon is not on the table.

[00:34:58]Companies with something else. What is it else? What else do you want as part of this negotiation? And the reason is because we the United States lose on a very key national security interest for us in you. We want a peace deal between the Lebanese and Israelis. Right now, you have Lebanese and Israeli partners that are working really well. The only thing preventing them from a peace deal is Hezbollah. And so, if you have a ceasefire, the way the Iranians want, and let's be very clear, the Iranian regime does not want stability for Lebanon. They can they couldn't care less about the Lebanese people. A ceasefire with zero terms is a gift to Hezbollah. It allows it to rebuild, rearm, restrategize. Whereas, and I'm not I'm not trying to imply that war is always better. If you have a ceasefire that has specific terms stipulated, for example, how will the disarmment of Hezbollah go? Who will do that disarmment? Who's going to monitor and verify that disarmment? How do you ensure they can't rebuild? What is the relationship between the Lebanese and Israeli militaries? What is the role of the US military in that regard? These are all typical things you figure out in a ceasefire. However, if you indicate to the Iranian regime, you know what? If you, the Iranian regime, want ceasefire in Lebanon, then you have the right to negotiate on on behalf of the Lebanese government, something that the Lebanese leaders have been repeatedly begging not to confuse the two.

[00:35:51]>> Okay, General Kim, I want to play you a clip. This is Hillary Clinton yesterday um saying that Netanyahu had been pushing hard for this war when she was in in administration. Let's take a look.

[00:35:59]When I was secretary, it was a constant uh you know theme by uh Netanyahu and his then government, the then defense uh minister Ahood Barack, the former prime minister. It was relentless. It was a constant push. You know, I remember um >> what would he say to you? What >> what would he say to you?

[00:36:16]>> He would basically say um we need we need to uh you need to support us in attacking Iran. And they would say things like, you know, our planes are on the tarmac. And I'd say, well, good luck. I mean, great. Um why are you doing this?

[00:36:27]>> Where else would planes be other than But I'm a tarmac ready to take over.

[00:36:31]Yes.

[00:36:31]>> Now, this follows a theme, General Kim, we've heard, you know, from other secretary of state, Anthony Blinkin and others and, you know, from other people working in administrations that administration after administration was put on a lot of heat by Netanyahu to try and engage America in a war with Israel against Iran. And it seems like in Donald Trump, they finally found a willing uh a willing partner in this exercise. Now, you know, as I said earlier, I don't for a moment think that ultimately the buck doesn't stop with Donald Trump. Of course, it does. He's the president of the United States. He's the commander-in-chief. He's the one that makes this decision. But I also think it's pretty clear from everything we've now gleaned about the buildup to all this that he bought in to Netanyahu's view of what would happen and that has simply not materialized. Do do you think that if Trump had his time again, he would go into this war?

[00:37:09]>> Yeah. Well, it's good to think that Pierce Starmer is not our prime minister uh having lost the war in 1776 because we know how that would turn out.

[00:37:17]>> Well, I agree with you about that.

[00:37:18]>> Obsessive. Let's pull back a second. It has been the policy of every president since the discovery of the illegal Iranian nuclear program and their illegal extended range missile program that America would not tolerate a nuclear weapon in Iran. And we've tried everything. We talk about the typical tools of American power, diplomacy, information, military, economic. Well, the fact remains is through every other administration uh those tools haven't worked because the military was not part of that. Uh now we can talk about that, but it was inevitable that sooner or later the Americans would be going to war or the region would be going to war with Iran. Now there's this false argument about it wasn't an imminent threat, but you know what an imminent threat is. If you have to wait till the 19 terrorists get on the airplanes because that's your definition of imminency, I'm not sure I would want to go with it. But the fact remains is that it was inevitable that sooner or later one of two things would happen.

[00:38:05]>> It was inevitable sooner or later which would then lead to the major problem which was proliferation of nuclear weapons in that region as Saudi Arabia would get threat inevitable threat. So we can just do anything.

[00:38:16]>> So the question I have is we can argue about how the war has uh been been worked out, but I'm not sure that anybody has a better idea of how to disarm the Iranians from their nuclear uh aspirations and any suggestion that the JCPOA was the right answer. Well, the fact remains if it was the right answer, why didn't Biden renew the agreement when he was president? SO LOOK, WE >> AFTER TRUMP HAD TORN IT UP. OH, WE JUST GOT TO KEEP GOING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. it was inevitable and let's just accept that let's do it now rather than later.

[00:38:45]>> I mean my my issue with what you said is that if we go back to a year ago last summer um there was the 12- day war which uh looked brutally simple short and effective and we were told by the president of the United States to have put back the nuclear capability and aspirations of Iran by decades and I believed him. I thought great and I applauded that action of 12 days it seemed very surgical. Um it seemed very precise they taken out all the nuclear bases they taken out the nuclear scientists. It seemed very specific, a bit like when Trump took out Sulmani. Uh but there we were, General Kim, only 8 months later where far from putting it back decades. It turned turned out we hadn't even put it back 8 months. And we're supposed to believe then the threat was so imminent it required an immediate attack to stop Iran developing this these nuclear weapons within weeks.

[00:39:26]And so I'm scratching my head going, well, how can both those things be true?

[00:39:29]Which one are we supposed to believe?

[00:39:30]Are we supposed to believe what was said last last year or are we supposed to believe what we heard in February?

[00:39:34]>> I see the failure coming out of people like Chuck D'Vor. He's a military intelligence officer. the BDA assessment that was done by our intelligence services was pretty lousy. I think Chuck would have to agree with that as well because it turns out we really didn't obliterate it. But the fact remains that u we have not began begun to stress the surface.

[00:39:49]>> Oh, so that wasn't Trump's fault. That was the intelligence agency's fault.

[00:39:52]It's the thing, right? No good users or what the [ __ ] is the what's the thing?

[00:39:59]Bad Boyers Chef Boyardds.

[00:40:02]>> A strategic bombing campaign. Britain knows what a strategic bombing campaign looks like. It was called the Battle of Britain. Uh now I'm not suggesting or advocating for significant amounts of attacks against civilian infrastructure, but sometimes it has to be done if the option is better we have a significantly damaged Iran in every sense of the word than an Iranian regime that has a nuclear weapon. And let's talk about this world of >> advocating for it.

[00:40:25]>> I'm I'm advocating for >> You are advocating for it.

[00:40:27]>> Uhoh. May I finish? No. What I'm saying is if it is clear that this agreement does not stop Iran's permanent path to a nuclear weapon, then we have to continue the war in order to extract that agreement out of them.

[00:40:40]>> But how do we Well, hang on a second.

[00:40:43]Hang on a second. I mean, General Kim, my responsibility, you know, you you've repeatedly said you wouldn't trust the Iranian regime as far as you could throw them. According to this leaked agreement, they're going to get $300 billion, if $325 billion. Um, I wouldn't trust them to spend that how we'd like them to, would you? Why would they not just do exactly what Hamas did when they were given billions funneled funneled through and encouraged by Netanyahu?

[00:41:02]>> The first thing I did say, my first answer was this agreement better have an intrusive inspection and verification process otherwise you're right. We can't trust them and uh if we don't get that then I will tell you I don't agree with this agreement.

[00:41:16]>> Wow. Right.

[00:41:17]>> Okay. Let me bring in attorney.

[00:41:18]>> Can we have the same process for Israel?

[00:41:20]>> Chank the same inspection process for Israel. Jake, you know you're talking about >> There is a country that has weapons of mass destruction, right? There's a country in the Middle East that's super dangerous, has attacked seven of its neighbors and already has weapons of mass destruction and weapons that they stole from us. They stole the nuclear technology. They stole the uranium. They stole the nuclear triggers. That's Israel. So why are you not concerned about the out of control rogue state that already has a nuclear weapon and threatens all of their neighbors? And you're concerned with someone who doesn't have the that and is now promising to never have that.

[00:41:44]>> You can let me answer.

[00:41:44]>> So by your standard, we should invade Israel.

[00:41:46]>> Nope.

[00:41:46]>> Okay. Two thing three things I'd say.

[00:41:48]Look, I don't know how what your relationship is with your country of birth, but you want to talk about genocide. Let's talk about Armenia. And if you want to TALK >> damn okay >> about not being able >> Oh, nice distraction. Yeah, I can talk about it.

[00:42:04]>> Let me finish. And then the next issue is if you talk about not going into Lebanon, in fact, Turkey over the last few years has established just like the Israelis have in Lebanon a foothold in the first 30 km of Syria because they're afraid of the terrorism coming from the PKK.

[00:42:18]>> Kurds, the PKK, the Kurdish people.

[00:42:20]THAT'S TRUE. OH. UH-OH.

[00:42:23]>> And the third, I mean, just like Iran, Iran feels this threatened. It's logical for them to want a nuclear weapon. You know why it's logical for I I would when an Egyptian general told me, "We're not worried about Iran because if they get a nuclear weapon, we're friends with them.

[00:42:34]You need to worry about Iran about Israel having a nuclear weapon." And I said, "Look, if I had been invaded by every one of my neighbors repeatedly, maybe I'd have a nuclear weapon to protect me as well. It's pretty good deterrence."

[00:42:43]>> Well, that's what's happening to Iran right now. So, by your logic, Iran should have a nuclear weapon to deter Israel from invading it. I mean, you just said it. You said if you get invaded by your neighbors like Iran is getting invaded by Israel right now, you would logically want to have a weapon of mass destruction. Now, I want to answer the questions you said. I didn't know I was coming on.

[00:42:57]>> YEAH. OKAY. WELL, that's your problem for saying things that are incorrect and having me to correct you. So, uh now you made it seem like I care what the Turkish government's doing. I don't care at all. I'm an American. So, I think that Turkey being in northern Syria is wrong. And I know a lot about the Armenian genocide because I grew up with Turkish property.

[00:43:09]>> We should remove Turkey from NATO then, right? He should ask him that >> and I So, I like a lot of the Israelis now. I believe the same things. Oh, it's not a genocide. They were hiding behind human shields where we were doing self-defense. We had to move them for their own benefit. So, I know exactly what genocide denial propaganda sounds like. And it's exactly what the Israelis are doing now. It's exactly what team Israel in America, which you sound like you're on, uh is doing right now to justify all of Israel's wars and genocide and make it seem in some bizarro Alison Wonderland uh type of situation that Israel is defending itself. What part of Israel is in southern Lebanon? No, they're aggressively taking land. Netanyahu bragged that they already have 60% of Gaza and they're going to take 70% of Gaza. What happened to self-defense? It was about land theft. Oh, no. I'm speaking against Israel. Team Israel wants me to hurry up. Don't say things.

[00:43:47]Remember the boogeyman is Muslim. And this Kimmit is talking about how, oh my god, what if Turkey has a nuclear weapon? Turkey is a NATO ally. So you have a problem with a NATO ally being stronger, but you don't have a problem with a deeply hostile state like Israel that has attacked seven of its neighbors that has taken their land, having a weapon of mass destruction that they stole from us and lording it over the Middle East.

[00:44:06]>> You know, they they call this team America, brother. We got no interest in Israel stealing southern Lebanon. Let's get the hell out of there. We have no interest in murdering Iranians on behalf of Israel. Let's get the hell out of there.

[00:44:14]You talking about gas prices, the food prices, you're all obsessed with >> you talked about, you've talked about a lot of things. So, let me just go to some other guest. Uh, Colonel D'vor, I want to take you back just to I think a Sidewinder missile which came your way from General Kimmit. Unless I misheard him. I think he called you lousy.

[00:44:30]>> Oh, intelligence is lousy.

[00:44:32]>> Yeah, >> that's what we do with all of our intelligence officers. We beat him up repeatedly because they're not >> This is true. This is true.

[00:44:37]>> No, I'm als I'm all four panelists going after each other, but a good old military two-way like this for a while.

[00:44:41]But no, there's that point though. few big points that have been made that I I really think need to be responded to.

[00:44:45]Okay, so first of all about the urgency of this operation after Midnight Hammer.

[00:44:48]>> Iran was rapidly adding to their ballistic missile inventory with the help of the People's Republic of China.

[00:44:53]The fear was that they were very quickly going to reach the point beyond which they would be able to saturate the anti-missile defenses of the region.

[00:45:00]Israel and the Gulf Arab allies as well as any US anti-missile platforms in the region. Once they got to that point with over 10,000 ballistic missiles, which they were rapidly approaching, >> has Brian got to speak at all of this?

[00:45:09]with China's help. The fear was that they would reach a point of invulnerability where any sort of effort to try to prevent the reassembling of that nuclear program would be met with mass casualties throughout the Middle East. Now, to the issue of nuclear weapons in the region, Israel has had nuclear weapons for probably going on 40 plus years. They have not used them on anyone. The Iranian chance death and death to death to America and why they constantly >> say again, >> why don't they admit it? Why don't they just >> It's the typical thing of strategic ambiguity. It's like the US policy towards Taiwan. We might or we might not do something. So the the point is is that >> I really don't sorry just to that point.

[00:45:43]I just hang on hang on a second go. I really do not understand why it is and I've raised this point many times on this show. I do not understand why Israel which demands full transparency from countries like Iran right down to exactly how much enrich Iran they've got. Why it's generally agreed that they have a huge number of nuclear weapons themselves but they get a pass. They're the only country in the world that doesn't have to even admit they've got nuclear weapons. And you know to General Kim's point, if Saudi Arabia did want one or Qatar wanted one or the UAE wanted one, I'm I'm at a bit of a loss to understand why if Israel is allowed to have a lot of them, why they should be.

[00:46:14]>> It's really it's really simple. General KemT mentioned it. They've been invaded by all of their neighbors in recent history. The missile force that they have, the bombs that they have, roughly 30 or 40, are a deterrent against a second holocaust. The big difference between them and the state of Iran is Iran is not a typical Westfallian state.

[00:46:27]They are like a death cult. They believe they have a millinarian belief that if they cause enough chaos, they can usher in the arrival of the 12th imam, the mai. And so when you have a group of people who actually want to use a nuclear weapon, then they're hard to deter because it's part of their esquetology. They are not a normal but given okay but given wait on hang on hang on is on my show just I think hang on still my show. Uh well it's called chuga unens by the way we should maybe have that conversation. Um but until it is I conduct a thing here. Um, this is fine, but again, if you take the principle, if you come under attack, you should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. Well, what about the Gulf States? They've all come under attack from Iran. The Americans believe that Iran is literally weeks away from developing nuclear weapons, that threat doesn't seem to have been diminished at all by any of this warongering in the last 16 weeks from what I can see. So, if you take that argument, if you extrapolate that out, if you're Saudi Arabia, UAE, Katar, whatever, given you've come under attack from your neighbor Iran, why should you not be allowed to have the same nuclear deterrent that Israel has?

[00:47:24]>> So, here's the challenge, right? Israel has had nuclear weapons for probably 40 plus years. The Middle East minus Iran has shockingly been without nuclear weapons. So if the UAE, if Saudi Arabia, if Turkey were to suddenly want a nuclear weapon, now why is that? What's the approximate trigger? It certainly wasn't Israel having nuclear weapons.

[00:47:38]No, it's the Islamic Republic of Iran having nuclear weapons that is the trigger. And it is long-standing US policy to be opposed to nuclear proliferation. It makes things progressively more difficult. More nations that are armed with nuclear weapons.

[00:47:49]>> So has has the United Well, hang on. Has the United States actively sought to stop uh Israel having more nuclear weapons in the last 20 30 years or has it just allowed it to?

[00:47:58]>> I'm aware of no policy one way or the other with regards to the US and Israel.

[00:48:01]There may be some classified negotiations but shockingly prior to this conversation with Sank. You don't really hear a lot of concern about Israel's nuclear weapons program because they haven't used it nor do they threaten their neighbors with it.

[00:48:11]>> They've used it to attack all their neighbors. They use the threat of it and they say, "Well, you can't attack us back because we have nuclear weapons."

[00:48:16]And >> what?

[00:48:19]WHO DOESN'T ATTACK what >> he's like to I don't okay >> the one country that has nuclear weapons in the Middle East has launched wars against almost all of its neighbors they they've got that as back up they've got Iron Dome back up and it has embolden them to take land in Gaza to take land in Lebanon which you guys are denying Iran has taken no land Israel has taken land over and over again do you know that 1948 only 6% of the land was Jewish now it's >> oh my god all the talking points >> 78% is owned by Israel how did the settler colony get from center of genocide Southern Lebanon in 1986 with the IDF land that the IDF voluntarily left. Why were they there? They went up to try to kick out the PLO. You know who rescued the PLO?

[00:48:57]>> To begin to talk over southern Lebanon in 1986 with the IDF land that the IDF voluntarily left. Why were they there? They went up to try to kick out the PLO. You know who rescued the PLO? President Reagan and the Americans rescued the Palestine Liberation or Organization. Israel left Lebanon. They left Gaza. So they were attempting to trade land forunately and they came back in they come back in three times and got into southern Lebanon. They came to take Lebanon and you guys told us the United Nations was supposed to present prevent Hezbollah from getting to be a murderous force and they utterly failed. In fact, Hezbollah built it sound like Lebanon invaded Israel. Israel invaded Lebanon. You're you're inverting reality. You're making it sound like invaded. Israel is inside of Lebanon right now. Do you condemn Israel for being inside? You condemn them for taking if America was taking missiles daily from Tijana, Mexico.

[00:49:42]Tijuana would be making an argument for you're making I can't believe you're making a prosa argument because what Hezbollah is saying is can you imagine if America was invaded and they took half of Texas as they're doing right now. Israel invaded Lebanon and taken southern Lebanon. Well, of course we would fight back.

[00:49:54]>> This whole comparison is just dumb because Israel already has nuclear weapons. We don't have a time. It's it's all dumb because nobody gives a [ __ ] about anything. Especially Jank. What an amoral [ __ ] Especially if you want to reference like Israel going into Lebanon in the [ __ ] ' 80s. If you wanted to virtue signal over that like this guy brings this up. Why not talk about the like probably one of the most objectively bad guy things that Israel did was when they were um I think this was like in I don't know how deep in Lebanon this was. Where were the [ __ ] camps for the um I don't remember the names of this. It's been so long.

[00:50:21]Basically the IDF was occupying this area and I believe it was the Christian Lebanese forces that basically [ __ ] mass murdered like 2,000 3,000 civilian Sabra and Chhatilla. I think if you read the accounts of the time, it was like the IDF forces could hear like the screams. They could hear the screams of the people as they were being [ __ ] murdered by Lebanese forces and the IDF just kind of like chilled and was like that was object. I'm I'm sorry I'm laughing. It's not funny. It was it was horrible. But I don't even know if Jen knows about this, but like oh yeah, Shaburn Saburn Chhatilla the Saburn Chhatilla massacre I think is what it's referred to. But maybe Jen doesn't even know about this. I don't know. But it's objectively one of the worst parts I think of Israeli history in terms of things that they allowed to happen.

[00:51:02]>> You're saying and I agree and that's what Hezbollah is saying. Well, of course we're going to fight back there in our land. They're literally stealing our land. What a disgusting our land.

[00:51:09]Hezbollah. Our land. Our land. Oh, so it's not the state of Lebanon. It's Hezbollah's country.

[00:51:14]>> I surrender to the mighty Israelis.

[00:51:17]By the way, you guys is an Iranian proxy. Iran has spent billions of dollars training and equip.

[00:51:25]>> So what? What? They're not allowed to own part of Lebanon. Iran can't help part of Lebanon. Bro, >> priorities are Israel's priorities and the Iranians against hundreds of US responsible for Israel. Israel is not daddy. Israel might be your daddy.

[00:51:38]Israel is not our daddy.

[00:51:40]>> Iran has been at war with us since 1979.

[00:51:42]Sir, >> let me bring in Brian.

[00:51:44]>> Israel has been at war with us the entire time. Israel stole our Israel just stoleion from us. Israel made us fight seven wars for $8 trillion. Israel is And you guys keep aiding and betting our enemies. Chank, you keep aiding and abetting my failure to include other panelists. So, we've all got a cross to bear. Let me bring in Brian. Um, Brian, Donald Trump uh said this, just remember the Iranians never won a war but never lost a negotiation. Are those words coming back to haunt him? Do you think?

[00:52:05]>> Uh, I I would say so. I mean, if you just look at the details of this negotiation unto himself. I mean, he had said initially that the whole point of this thing was to prevent uh to prevent the Iranians from enriching uranium.

[00:52:13]Now, he's coming out in just the last 24 hours and says, um, you know, basically, I don't care about enriched materials.

[00:52:18]Um, then there's the point of the $300 billion uh that Iran's going to have access to. Iran's going to have access to $300 billion. there's the point of the trade of Hormuz um being being basically a toll route that Iran's going to be able to benefit from financially in perpetuity. And so if if you look at this, I don't see where the United States is better off. I mean, I guess you could I guess you could, you know, have Donald Trump point to this idea that Iran that that Iran's nuclear facilities were obliterated, but even he again came out and said that he doesn't care about enriched materials anymore.

[00:52:41]So I don't negotiation and think that he came out.

[00:52:44]>> The real problem Yeah. The real problem it seems to me is here's what I think may happen in the next 48 hours. The backlash against the leaks of this report have been so big and many from Trump's traditional support really supportive.

[00:52:55]>> He's gonna get embarrassed on his own deal.

[00:52:58]>> Well, well, exactly my point. But then he's going to try and change things to be more adverse to the Iranian regime.

[00:53:03]And the Iranian regime knows all it has to do is bang sharp the straight of moose again and toss some missiles over to the Gulf States and we're right back where we were when they first worked out that was going to be the most effective weapon in their arsenal. And I just don't understand how Trump gets out of that problem without in the end doing what I've been recommending he do for quite a while, which is claim some kind of pirick victory and get the hell out of this because the problem he's got until that regime's gone, they now know what the most effective weapons they have are. And they're not nuclear. In fact, they're pretty cheap and they can unleash them at any time they like. A few drones into the Gulf States and shut down a bit of water. That's all they have to do. And by doing that, they hold the world over an economic energy barrel. And by the way, I think any person on this panel would have been able to say that Iran would be able to deploy uh using the straight of horm as a weapon against the United States at any point in this entire process. But I think you're right. I think Donald Trump is going to see um the extent to which this is being bered on both the left and right across the political spectrum and he's going to reneg and the Iranians have something that the United States doesn't have, which is time. I mean, we have midterms coming up and so political pressure exists in the United States and as we get closer and closer to midterms, there is a sense that Donald Trump is going to have to at least make an effort, some modicum of an effort to keep gas prices down. Well, that's not going to happen.

[00:54:05]>> I may not for Israel obligated to do anything. Well, I think the thing was was that the only way was this Christians against Muslims? I think that IDF basically facilitated it it such that they created the security condition necessary for that massacre to happen and then they basically just stood by and listened and they knew what was going on. Not not good.

[00:54:23]>> And the Iranians know that and they don't have the same political pressure as the United States has.

[00:54:27]>> I would blockade is starving the Iranian regime. Every day that goes by they miss out on some 500 million.

[00:54:33]>> They don't care. The Iranian regime don't care if their people Yeah. But here's the problem. The Iranian regime don't care if their people are starving.

[00:54:37]They don't care. They do care to make payroll for the besiege and for the IRGC and they do care to try to keep their proxies afloat. And if that money is scarce or absent then the whole edifice becomes rotten and may collapse.

[00:54:47]>> So that prompts the question why on earth would we agree a deal where you give them $325 billion makes absolutely >> that's not the deal. That's not the deal.

[00:54:54]>> So so that is in the deal.

[00:54:56]>> 300 billion is not money the Iranian regime has access to the and already said this and peers I have to tell you you have three people here who are foreign policy experts who serve their country with distinction and we know what we're talking about. the 300 billion. And look, I'm not I don't like this deal and I don't like the I don't like the JCPO.

[00:55:08]>> Forgive me. Forgive me. Hang on. With all due respect, forgive me if my confidence in the so-called experts in all this has taken a bit of a battering in the last 16 weeks because it little old me. It was little old it was hang on. It was little old me. It was little old civilian non-expert peers who called all this from day one. And very sadly, everything I warned has happened. So, uh, woe be it for me to challenge your expertise, but it seems like my amateurish view turned out to be sadly the correct one. I wish Donald Trump had listened to me and not the experts.

[00:55:33]Anyway, on that bombshell, but you keep saying that they have access to 300 billion, and I'm trying to correct you on something that's false.

[00:55:39]They are not going to have access.

[00:55:40]>> Well, I'm only reading what I've read in the All I'm doing is reading I'm reading the 14point memorandum and in that it makes it clear. It makes it clear. Hang on. Makes it clear there will be financing.

[00:55:50]>> No, this is actually No, this is actually the agreed memorandum. But unfortunately, Donald Trump now knows no one's going to buy it. So, he's now trying to change it.

[00:55:58]>> Okay.

[00:55:58]>> Well, unfortunately, they are listening and they are reading.

[00:56:01]>> Anyway, I'm going to leave it there.

[00:56:03]Because like I said, I don't deal in hyperbole. I don't have time for it.

[00:56:05]This I want to tell you the facts on this because you keep repeating and it's a disservice to your viewers.

[00:56:09]>> Vice President Billion is nothing more than a potential opportunity if things go green. By the way, I don't think they will. I don't think the No, it's insured financing.

[00:56:20]It's insured financing. No, it's insured financing. It is insured financing. You can keep talking over me as much as you like, but I will have the last word on this. In the current 14-point agreement, the rehabilitation and economic development. What are we not talking about? Or am I crazy? I need to do more research on this. I I feel like the big point, I don't know if they brought this up here, is the sanctions relief. I feel like that's a really really really big deal, but I feel like they didn't talk about it here, but also this might just be because it's a [ __ ] peers panel of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Ensuring financing of at least $300 billion also on freezing assets of 25 billion. If that is a good deal for America given what the supposed war aims were, my name is Donald Trump. And last time I checked, it isn't. So, uh, thank you all very much. We're going to leave it there. I appreciate it.

[00:57:00]Okay, I don't care. Sh. Okay, we're done. No more politics. Politics sucks.

[00:57:03]We all hate politics here.

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