Senyo Hosi vs Ahiagbah: Heated Exchange Over Ken Ofori-Atta Case | The Big Issue

[00:00:00]Chased by the state is not fun. Let's face it.

[00:00:03]That's why you manage your affairs well and you organize yourself well so that you can account. And in this case I have a lot of respect for Justice Binkapremo.

[00:00:13]He's one of the finest brains, one of the people who keep pushing the boundaries of our our our our legal frame.

[00:00:19]I commend him.

[00:00:21]He's you have a very competent law firm that can actually separate you both legally and morally.

[00:00:28]So, I don't even know what this whole fight is about.

[00:00:31]>> He's spending millions of dollars.

[00:00:33]There's no way you do this fight that he's been fighting and you haven't spent more than two, three, four million dollars by now.

[00:00:39]>> Honestly.

[00:00:40]>> So, where what is this for?

[00:00:43]>> You're doing this honor to your party.

[00:00:45]>> If the US ambassador is watching, what's your message to him?

[00:00:48]>> I mean, you should be facilitating accountability in our country.

[00:00:52]Corruption has been at the heart of the failure and the retrogression of our society.

[00:00:58]The last thing you want to do is to be seen to be promoting and encouraging it.

[00:01:03]Not because the persons involved are guilty or not guilty, but you are sending a wrong signal that people can escape the boundaries of justice and accountability. More importantly, accountability doesn't mean you are you are liable to anything, but you go through a process of making sure that the stewardship to the people of Ghana is accounted for.

[00:01:23]>> Thank you, Senator. Honorable I'm giving you 30 minutes to wrap up.

[00:01:29]I wanted to say something. Yes, Richard I think he wants to he wants to intervene. Yes.

[00:01:33]Yes, let me hear you.

[00:01:35]>> You give me enough time.

[00:01:37]>> Yes, Senator.

[00:01:39]Senator, I I am I am I am I'm looking at my brother Senator and and I I I understand him.

[00:01:49]But you see, it is it makes me feel that he doesn't have confidence in this government.

[00:01:57]Because we cannot convince ourselves to say that we have a state that has all the powers including, you know, bilateral relationships that it has.

[00:02:12]Okay? I cannot bring somebody from the United States to face charges.

[00:02:18]Assuming Assuming that yes, what you're saying Ken knows that he's guilty and doesn't want to come. Assuming he That's the case. So, are we saying that the state does not have a recourse? Is that what we're saying?

[00:02:31]>> He's saying that >> I'm not saying that the state hasn't got a recourse. I'm saying that governance must be elevated well above just legalities. It must be driven by the values enshrined in our constitution.

[00:02:44]This is something that Ken >> But I agree >> as a very senior public officer should voluntarily subject himself to.

[00:02:52]If the police come here I hear the police for me my social standing. If the I hear the police is looking for me on the matter, it behooves on me to be one who runs to the police and say, "Please, I've heard on air that you people are interested in something that I I >> I'm here. Here I am.

[00:03:08]>> You understand?

[00:03:08]>> So, Richard, let >> That is where governance should be.

[00:03:11]>> Let me hear you.

[00:03:13]>> What is WHAT IS IT THAT I CAN WIGGLE MYSELF AROUND legally or not? This is a value system matter. This is a Look, I am I I can't believe that this is still the party of the Rucha, the party of J. H.

[00:03:27]Mensah.

[00:03:28]This I'm being honest with you. And what I appreciate IN YOUR FAVOR, WHAT I appreciate I mean from from I hear but And also I mention Gabu. Everybody runs Nobody is denying the value system matter.

[00:03:45]Because that's what an NPP government is supposed to stand for.

[00:03:49]>> Okay. Yes. Er, Richard, you can't Richard, you can't hear you.

[00:03:52]>> Yeah.

[00:03:54]Okay, yeah. So, you know, so so so appreciate the contest I'm creating. I'm creating a contest to say that assuming that pen doesn't care about values. It doesn't care about integrity. It doesn't care about anything. And he says that I'm not coming and he's gone. And we saying that the state doesn't have a recourse?

[00:04:10]>> But the state is doing that. But the state is doing that. It's just that they are saying that he should help the state.

[00:04:16]>> SO SO EXACTLY. SO, WHAT IS THE POINT of this appeal to emotion, the bastardization of NPP as though that NPP is some big headmaster? No.

[00:04:27]>> No, no.

[00:04:27]>> Sedinam Sedinam, Sedinam, hold on 1 second.

[00:04:30]Sedinam, Sedinam, Omaro, can you hear me?

[00:04:34]>> Yes, Richard. Except that when you say NPP should not be seen like some big headmaster, then why did you go to sit on TV to say that the the former president has directed nobody to run away. If he was not the headmaster, why did he say that? Does it mean it was a useless advice or instruction?

[00:04:49]>> NO, THAT GOES THAT goes to people's appreciation of values, integrity, and the rest. So, we we have we have created a contest here saying that adjust for that and say people don't want to obey.

[00:05:00]And I'm just saying that I'm just saying that in fact, by the way, President Mahama himself has said this thing before. So, it's not as if Akufo-Addo has said it. President Mahama said it and Sedinam disappeared. So, the point is that >> No, but >> that Sedinam would not have come back home.

[00:05:15]Are you Are you with me?

[00:05:16]>> Yes.

[00:05:16]>> My Omaro.

[00:05:17]>> Yes, I'm listening.

[00:05:17]>> Sedinam would not have come back to Ghana to serve her sentence but for the extradition process. You agree?

[00:05:23]>> Mhm.

[00:05:25]Absolutely.

[00:05:26]>> Yes. So, if the state has this as a tool, all the appeal Sedinam is making to emotion, to values, and all of that >> It should be directed to the state in the case of Sedinam.

[00:05:39]>> Very well.

[00:05:39]>> No, it's Sedinam.

[00:05:40]>> Okay, I agree.

[00:05:42]HELLO. LET ME LET ME LET >> RICHARD, YOU >> SEDINAM WAS JAILED >> SEDINAM, you're on my room.

[00:05:46]>> Just 1 second. [laughter] >> No, I I Omaro is a friend of mine.

[00:05:48]>> So, I'll come I'll come talk about yes region yes.

[00:05:52]>> The only thing The only thing that brought Sedinam back was what? The extradition process. True or false?

[00:05:59]>> Yes.

[00:06:02]>> OKAY, SO SO THE STATE HAS RECOURSE.

[00:06:04]>> BUT but but let me just add let me just add for let me region let me just add for context that she at a point stopped fighting the extradition and that's how come she came home. So if she had continued and if you look at the communication if you had continued maybe would have a a Ken Ofori-Atta situation on our hands where she would keep fighting appealing and all of that. So at a point she said I was not going to fight anymore.

[00:06:29]>> Yeah, so in the what what happened is that it's a right she ceases to use, right? So so that one is a right and it's a right that she has and so that one is neither here nor there. But the point remains that but for the extradition process she wouldn't have come. And so if you are trying to point finger at NPP to say that NPP should bring Ken Ofori-Atta the point the the same thing can be said about NDC. Why?